40 Times Recruiters’ True Colors Came Out And Job Seekers Just Had To Shame Them (Best Of All Time)
Interview With ExpertUnless you're a trust-fund kid, won the lotto, were born into extreme wealth, or have someone else to help pay the bills, chances are high that you need to work to live. Over 161 million people are employed in the U.S. according to data from late last year. More than 7 million people don't have jobs. There's a big group of people seeking work, and it includes some who are currently employed.
But as they've discovered, navigating the recruitment process can sometimes be hell on earth. From dumb job descriptions to ridiculous requirements and expectations from recruiters, and endless interviews that go nowhere slowly, people seem to be going through the most.
Online community Recruiting Hell has over 770,000 members, all commiserating with each other about the horrors of job hunting and/or hiring new talent. "We'll pay you in experience!" reads the page, before inviting people to share their nightmarish stories of searching for work.
Bored Panda has picked the best posts from the community, and we can only hope you have the good fortune of not having to encounter any of these situations anytime soon. Don't miss the chat we had with Resume Genius Career Expert Nathan Soto, about how to navigate the sometimes rocky hunt for jobs.
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Found This On Linkedin, Thought It Probably Belongs Here...lol
This, and a thousand other things in the Internet that never happened.
Landing a job is no walk in the park, and some recruiters will make you feel like you're jumping through narrow hoops of fire. To get some tips for job seekers, Bored Panda reached out to Nathan Soto. He's a Career Expert from online resume building platform Resume Genius.
"To stand out in today’s job market, job seekers should focus on three essentials: staying on top of industry trends, building genuine connections, and nailing interviews," Soto told us during our interview.
He adds that job seekers should follow companies and industry leaders online to stay current on the latest developments in their field. "Networking (both online and in person) can lead to advice and referrals you wouldn’t find otherwise," advises Soto.
"When it comes to interviews, do your homework on the company, practice answers that highlight your skills, and come ready with smart questions about the company and position to show you’re serious about the role."
I Will Drink To That
$13 is nowhere near a living wage in 2024. Min wage here in Portland is $15.95. It's even higher in California but the federal min wage is still $7.85. It's crazy.
Don't ever let anyone tell you this...I ran into this at bonus time here at my firm. FEDERAL law protects your right to discuss salary, bonus, days off, working conditions etc with WHOMEVER you want. Companies can't choose to muzzle you, that's how they keep salaries low.
Just an FYI: Those requirements are there for gatekeeping. It's been researched that white males will apply at higher rates for jobs they don't have the requirements for and by having unrealistic requirements, companies can hire anyone without the requirements by claiming they are "taking a shot on them". They can turn down other candidates (read: women or poc) without being called out for the behavior. If they do get someone with those qualifications, they are getting an over-qualified employee at an extremely low rate. At least that's common in the U.S.
How do you "cancel" a celebrity, or anyone else? I've never understood what that's supposed to mean.
Please read up on Charlie Chaplin. Man left the country he was cancelled so hard.
Load More Replies...How about being held responsible for your actions, whether you're an individual or a corporation?
Soto says job seekers should think twice about responding to job ads that are more than 2 months old, because they might be ghost job postings. "Ghost jobs are positions that are advertised but aren’t actively being recruited for," explained Soto. "Check the company's website or social media accounts to verify that the job you want is cross-posted there."
The expert says a major red flag during the recruitment process is receiving extensive pre-interview assignments where you're asked to do work that could be directly used by the company to make money.
"Another potential red flag is when you’re interacting with hiring managers who can't clearly answer questions about the role, and interviewers who haven't looked at your resume," he cautioned.
Anyone Relate To This?
The main job notice site for foreigners where I live is FB, and the one running the group says "no salary, we delete your job posting". Employers get pissy about it, but too bad for them.
Agreed, I interviewed three times for a closer to home position. Once I was being offered the job by the HR person, the salary was less than what I paid in taxes.
Load More Replies...In the US there are approximately ten states that have passed salary disclosure laws recently. However the potential employers only have to disclose a salary "range", and some only after a job interview or an applicant's specific request. I don't see a range as helpful as it still allows employers to offer white guys more than anyone else, with cute white girls a close second. Also a few states have made it illegal to ask for a "salary history" another ploy in the lowballing strategy. As an applicant though I can assure you companies still ask this illegal question and what do you do? Refuse to answer? Record the interview? It's ridiculous how many people fail to do the minimum their job requires but they're judging whether you're qualified...
I think it's because of they get an applicant who doesn't know their worth the company can offer less than they would have advertised.
Load More Replies...Where I live it's illegal to list a job without the salary listed & I take much joy in reporting them
Probably they had two other companies on the deck, and got accepted by one with higher pay. Why not say this instead of focusing on the salary part? Maybe spite, maybe a feeling that this would force you to reconsider the salary, but I am sure they had other, better offers.
Load More Replies...There should at least then be a base salary listed.
Load More Replies...Soto tells Bored Panda that employers are looking for candidates who have the skills they need. "Whether you show it through your experience or through qualifications, what matters most is that you have those skills," he said.
"Impressive experience can usually make up for a lack of qualifications, and likewise the right qualifications can often make up for a lack of experience in a specific job."
It's Really Not That Complicated
I hear things like ‘how do people who are living on the street have nice clothes, etc?’ You can literally have a full-time job and not be able to afford a place to live. The clothes are practically free by comparison.
Load More Replies...Note to employers: If you believe "no one wants to work" the truth is that no one wants to work FOR YOU.
I red that this started happening during the recession in 2008, when mid and upper level employees lost their jobs, and took entry level positions with a pay cut, because any job is better than no job. That got employers spoiled into thinking they can demand loads of experience and education for lowballed salary entry level jobs, and turn away fresh graduates and people with related experience wanting to change careers.
It doesn't help matters that many people don't have a good understanding of what an "entry level" position is. That term doesn't always mean the same thing for every single industry. So, for example, an entry level position in a company which does engineering design work, is going to be some type of job that requires a person to have some level of engineering education. On the other hand, a stock trading company's entry level position is going to require a person with some level of a finance background; while an entry level position at a manufacturing company, isn't going to require any experience at all. Basically, "Entry level" doesn't always mean "no experience needed". Rather it means "This is the lowest position at our company."
Load More Replies...Ah, the three component dilemma: time, money, and quality. If you want experienced, good employers you gotta pay them their worth. If you don't wanna pay that much, you gotta cut back on either time (less experience) or quality (diligent workers).
I guarantee someone from Mexico and points south would hear 'no one wants to work' and head north.
A Story Of Two Parts, Recruiter Edition
There is absolutely no reason this piece of trashs name or employer should be hidden. Everyone should know how they operate.
Funny How The Language Changes Between People And Businesses
This guy right here is more or less the only CEO who should be spared the Luigi treatment
I think "the Luigi treatment" needs to become part of the standard language.
Load More Replies...Disloyal? What's disloyal? there hasn't been any "loyalty" in 50+ years. Administrations started it by being disloyal to their employees, letting them go, not paying enough, and refusing to consider their employees' concerns. So, we now have a work economy highlighting salary, quality time at work and home, etc.
Many years ago, I was walking through NYC's Times Square with a friend, and he half jokingly suggested nuking the area to wipe out all the junkies, scam artists, and assorted street people, who used to frequent that part of town back then. I suggested Wall Street as a far more deserving target. I think recent events have validated my though process.
This disconnect exists because stockholders exist. Get rid of wall street, this problem vanishes instantly.
More than 60% of the American workforce doesn't have a college degree, but that's not stopping them from earning big bucks. According to CNBC, many of the country's top companies, including Walmart, Amazon, Apple, GM, Bank of America, Uber, Nike, Delta Air Lines, and Target are removing degree requirements from job postings.
CNBC adds that it's becoming more common for companies to hire based on skills rather than qualifications.
We Need To Make Discussing Salary Normal
The only reason the salary is confidential: there are inequities between people on the same position and experience level.
...and inequalities between genders or depending on the colour of your skin.
Load More Replies...In the US, it is ILLEGAL to retaliate against employees for discussing salary.
In case anyone needs it, here's the law: https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages Also, it could be an EEOC complaint, here's that law: https://shorturl.at/HWaoH [Link to EEOC.gov]
Load More Replies...As an Australian, I find this just so bizarre. Reading about employers demanding employees cannot discuss salary/wages/earnings/etc. I, just... why? Over here we know what we should be paid, what minimum wage is, and you can look up standard wages for positions. Why the big secrecy?
Employers want it to be secret so they can pay some people less than others. But to be clear, it is absolutely illegal under Federal Law.
Load More Replies...Yessss!!! I always hated that rule and knew exactly why they said that the very first time I was told not to do so.
If you're in the US, it's illegal for them to do that. https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages
Load More Replies...Actually, in the U.S. it is ILLEGAL for your employer to keep you from discussing your wages/salary with other employees. Know your rights.
Even though this has been a federal law in the US since 1935, it's only recently that it was ever enforced. Most companies had a written policy before 2020 that blatantly broke this law and never realized it.
Load More Replies...The flip side is when you get passed over for a raise or a promotion, you start looking for another job. I'm pretty close with my current job. If I don't get a raise in the next quarter then I'm looking. That simple.
What advice would you give to an already overworked and underpaid single mom who's too exhausted to take that step, especially since it would likely require relocation and come with many other challenges? For most people, finding a new job isn’t as simple as gaining a new skill in an RPG.
Load More Replies...(posted this originally in the wrong spot). There is a caveat to this that should be mentioned. If you (the employee), are employed under a contract, and within that contract of employment there is any form of confidentiality clause, then it is DANGEROUS to discuss any part of your contract. This is because confidentiality clauses within contracts are legally binding. This means that any breach of any information within that contract (such as salary information) is forbidden under letter of law, and can see the person who breaches, be subject to penalties, up to and including termination of employment, and even severe monetary fines paid to the employer. Confidential contracts are quite common in some fields, such as game development, where employees are scouted and brought in based on their past experiences at other employers, or who through negotiation have achieved a much higher than normal salary.
I think it goes beyond that. We humans tend to gang up on others on the same boat that are slightly better off, instead of focusing on the real cause of the problem. Actually this is shared with other primates, remember the experiment when they hosed the chimps on the ground when one reached for fruit, and then the others started to gang up on anyone trying to climb?
I actually don’t want to know. It will just make me angry and I know the employer won’t change anything.
If you know you're being underpaid, you should be keeping an eye out for other opportunities.
Load More Replies...Can I Get A Second To The Motion?
OMG I would love to see Muskrat do that. Would he apply at Tesla or Space-X or Xitter? Doesn't matter, he's not qualified to work for any of them. He's not qualified to change a lightbulb.
The only qualification he could put on his resume is his daddy’s sperm.
Load More Replies...And then have to live for a month doing the lowliest job on the lowest salary (and that includes the roles that have been outsourced).
At one place I worked, the CEO just sat in his office and played video games. Amazingly, that company is bankrupt now.
Load More Replies...Of course he's qualified, he's just "oh look... shiny object" (goes to new thing) unreliable.
Counterpoint: If It's Taking 6 Months For An Upper Manager To Fill A Position, The Company Should Be Looking To Fill 2 Positions
If the manager doesn't show up to work, the work still gets done. If the staff doesn't show up, nothing gets done. Hope that clarifies things, employers!
That's why I liked one manager at a grocery store I worked at. If the lines were long they would open one of the registers and work as a cashier. If the lines were all open but everyone was still swamped (Saturdays) the manager would bag the groceries. On one particularly hectic Saturday when I hadn't had a break he took over for me to allow me to take one. He was a good manager because he did what the store needed and understood that being in a high position means you have more tasks not that you don't have to do the low level tasks.
Load More Replies...Another view, if your team is running itself for 6 months forget hiring a manager and distribute a managers salary among that team with a lead person making a bit more.
Certain companies won't do this though. They would rather bring in fresh meat and lose all their staff. Speaking from a personal experience and yes, I'm still bitter
As you should be. At my job they either bring in someone new, who we all then must teach what we do, or they promote people from other areas - for instance, the human resource manager (yes, the one who hires people) became a deputy director over customer service and technical field support, then our exec. leadership wondered why so many people quit. I don't know - maybe it's because this person had no experience whatsoever with either, didn't know the policies and procedures needed, and doesn't understand tech at all.
Load More Replies...My company takes a long time to hire, but it's because they REALLY vet people. But we have a lot of long-timers here. I've been here 21 years. I love this company.
Should note that there was only one interview.
Load More Replies...I fully agree that upper management should be looking at the unit employees for a potential promotion to manager, however it's not always easy. We had one unit without a supervisor that was staffed by people who were excellent at the jobs they had. Unfortunately, the group include two people who always talked trash about upper management and plotted ways to "bring them down". Two other staff members held childish and unreasonable grudges against some of their co-workers in the unit and always talked about what they would do if they were the boss (mostly unethical or illegal actions), one person often made very poor decisions in both their work and personal life and was considered unreliable. Another had a very poor attendance record (unexcused by any medical reasons). None were candidates for a position that was responsible for supervising staff, developing policies and interacting with superiors because it takes a lot more than just performing your present job well.
“Gen Z job seekers are increasingly foregoing college and seeking out meaningful, lucrative work that doesn't require a university degree," revealed another Resume Genius career expert, Eva Chan, in a press release.
"Along with a shift from experience-based hiring to skills-based hiring, this creates the perfect conditions for people to consider a variety of fulfilling roles they may have never considered before," added Chan.
Robert Half Being Called Out On This Linkedin Post
The English used to have discussions about whether the Irish were white people. They weren't that sure about the Scots, either.
I've never had good luck with temp agencies. Ever. I worked for 40+ years and not once did a temp agency ever get me a job. I found all my jobs through my own efforts. It seems nothing has changed in all that time.
The Truth About "Nobody Wants To Work" (That We All Knew Already)
We need to talk about 'ghost jobs', too: "More than 40% of hiring managers said they list jobs they aren't actively trying to fill to give the impression that the company is growing. A similar share said the job listings are made to motivate employees, while 34% said the jobs are posted to placate overworked staff who may be hoping for additional help to be brought on." Source: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240315-ghost-jobs-digital-job-boards
I am sick to death of being psychologically manipulated by horseshit like this—-and just think of all the money the companies wasted getting this c**p done for them. Money that would’ve even better spent on raises for their employees. Happy, well-paid, and appreciated employees will work harder and be way more loyal than unhappy, low paid, and unappreciated wage slaves.
Load More Replies...I got kicked out of an FB group because some groomer ... I mean boomer ... whined "nobody wants to work!" I asked "how much?" and he said "below minimum wage" and said "There's your problem." [....] For those that can't grasp it, it was a yankland restaurant.
It's illegal to pay below minimum wage, that's why it's called minimum wage! Unless you're a server at a restaurant, in which case it's $2.13 an hour plus tips, and if the tips don't bring you up to minimum wage ($7.25 an hour), the employer must make up the difference.
Load More Replies...I am reading all this and getting really angry. Yes, I am a boomer. This type of behavior by employers is just unethical. I absolutely do not blame the new generation of workers for calling this out. I am also talking about what you folks posted. This is just utterly disgusting. The worst I have ran into was people trying to sell me on an MLM job but none of these shenanigans you people have to put up with today.
I Have Been Interviewing With A Company For Over 6 Weeks And Have Talked To Ten Different Interviewers. Emailed Today Saying I’ve Moved To The Next Round. Finally Sick Of It
I swear I wish my brain could work like this. All they wouldve gotten outta me was "nah I'm done,". Maybe I should go back to school, my burns would be soooo much better
My record was five interviews at the same place in 2019. I was stunned when I didn't get the job, but then the last "interview" was one of those "culture fit" things. Pretty much a guaranteed disaster for a mushroom-style worker.
Resume Genius recently released its "10 Highest Paying Jobs Without A Degree In 2025" report. Topping the list is an elevator and escalator installer and repairer, who has a median annual salary of $102,420. Instead of a college degree, recruiters are looking for those with a high school diploma and a 4-year apprenticeship, along with a state license or certification.
Transportation, storage, and distribution managers aren't faring too bad either, with a median salary of around $99,200. There are about 211,800 jobs available in that sector and the typical educational requirements are a high school diploma with no work experience needed. Of course, that varies from company to company.
Hiring Managers And Recruiters
Not going to happen. They figured out they can replace HR with AI and they aren't going back.
"What is this six month gap in your resume?" "experimenting with making an assassination look like a heart attack and then attending the funerals for my last company's entire HR department."
Since I have practically no social media presence I wonder if an AI can actually even figure out I exist.
Me, too. The only social media I've ever had is imgur, Reddit and now BP; all of which are anonymous. I wonder how much of a factor that is in hiring.
Load More Replies..."I'm sorry but I signed an NDA that covers that period, I'm not at leave to discuss it."
Wouldn't not having gaps be more of a problem? Seems you job hop too much. Maybe the person was stressed out and needed a small break. I'd hire that person over the hopper.
I agree (as a former hiring manager) that job hopping is something to look at but it depends on the number of gaps. Between 1989 and 2020, I had no gaps in employment but I only had three different jobs.
Load More Replies...I mean ... it sounds great, but if you have 3 dozen resumes for the same position, aren't you going to try to winnow them down as efficiently as possible?
This Should Be Mandatory Training For All Interviewers
Conscious and unconscious bias is a massive issue when interviewing. I have seen it so often, as both candidate and being part of an interview panel. It isn't just a racial thing either... I have seen bias for gender, sexual orientation, friend status, etc.
In Singapore they don't even try. You can post a listing explicitly saying "Yeah, we want a Eurasian guy". Not exactly sure how that specific ancestry is going to help the business, but there you have it. (I read about this several years ago; might be different now)
I work in a largely male dominated field and discovered 25 years ago that using my first two initials and my last name as "gender neutral" got me so much further in job hunts than going by my give (feminine) name. Which was a really shìtty realization to make at 22...
Plus, an algorithm can never make a human judgment about an applicant. Only a human being communicating with that human being can make that judgment—-and only if they have a well developed sense about whether someone will work out or not. That takes experience dealing with people to develop. No computer can replace it. Put unbiased (this is important) humans back in the hiring process, and hiring will get better.
Every place I've ever worked did have humans in the mix ... *after* that first, brutal winnowing by software filters. While I don't like it, I do understand it. Say you're a hiring manager with one open position. You get 300 resumes dumped on your desk. Do you really have time to evaluate them all deeply? What you really want is a way to filter out the obvious poor fits. Nowadays that filtering process may be going too far, but there are non-evil reasons for it.
Load More Replies...60 seconds is definitely based on appearance. But why the runaround with a billion interviews? Are you hiring or not? Same bias applies hoping they'll find who they're looking for.
I am not saying this should affect hiring the opposite actually but as an autistic individual, I can guess with 98% accuracy if someone is autistic within 20 seconds in person, 3 minutes via voice call and even sometimes from a picture or chat log though that's shaky accuracy. I guess my point is its not just appearance.
Load More Replies...While communism was alive the western companies were reasonable, treating their employees fairly, because the threat was at the next door. After the fall of the former the latter have no more scruple.
I Just Want A Paycheck While Not Having To Join A Cult
When you stop only being here for profit, then we will talk about MY attitude.
Excellent point. People work because they need the money, not because they're all giddy about spending a minimum of 40 hours per week working for your "amazing" company.
I was dedicated to the position but was also very clear that I was very much a mercenary.
To be fair, some employees are genuinely interested in or excited by the mission of the company. These guys will likely be better assets overall.
Interested I can and will do - "excited by the mission" sounds like charity work at best, cult at worst. I will NOT be paid in washed brain matter, especially not my own.
Load More Replies...If you're an electrical power-line installer and repairer, you could rake in $85,420 a year. Again, no degree needed. But you will need a high school diploma or GED, as well as an apprenticeship and hands-on classroom instruction.
If you fancy life on the edge while serving and protecting, you'll be glad to know you can earn around $74,910 as a detective or criminal investigator. You'll need a high school diploma, and some fairly stringent police academy training. According to Resume Genius, there are more than 790,000 jobs available.
That Backfired Spectacularly
The guy caused both of you to waste your time by waiting an hour to tell you such critical information.
UNO Card
I have asked employers for access to speak with some current employees. I’m interviewing the company as much as they are interviewing me.
My partner has the same strategy - it scares the shït out of most recruiters 😂
Load More Replies...It is kind of pointless these days, because most employers are afraid to say anything negative lest they be sued. So all they'll say is the person either is or isn't "eligible for rehire."
This is stupid. It's important to verify previous employment history for new employees. It's also common for people to lie on their applications.
i would ask for 3 references. A mix of supervisor, co-worker, client and/or subordinate (if applicable). I was surprised that occasionally they would not ask the person if they could use them as a reference. In one case i called up and was met with a version of "I wouldn't hire that $#@head no matter how desperate I was". Also, in many cases the applicants had already done their reference checks on us by talking with people in the organization and/or outsiders we interacted with.
If this person thinks asking for references is stupid, god forbid they get a position that requires a clearance level. They're going to want to know, and visit, every single person you've been acquainted with for the past decade, sometimes even longer; and if you fail to mention ANY thing on your record, even a minor traffic ticket, they're going to find out about it and it's going to be a problem.
That's It
When ever I've been the recruiting manager for a role, I have always contacted candidates personally to let them know the outcome, and I have always offered feedback following the interview. Just common decency, and allows candidates to understand the reason(s) why they weren't appointed.
Yup. Interviewed for a hotel once, it felt like the interview went well but days and a few weeks later (plus my voicemail to the GM and an email to the interviewer) just nothing. Funny thing is a few months ago I stayed at that same hotel with family members after trick or treat and the guy working up front told me that same interviewer coached young models or something and is extremely picky! Now I know lol
During my last unemployment jag while applying for disability, I applied for 435 jobs. (I still have the spreadsheet, because I'm a packrat). 80% no response. Of those I did get a response from... 80% ghosted after either the first call or the interview. The problem is epidemic, and from the nearly 30 years I spent in the job market before that, my feeling is that it's been that way for a very long time.
Thank you. It still amazes me how many companies won't respond to you
Well when I was in the job market, I always got my hopes up when I heard from someone I'd interviewed with. So I'm not thrilled by an email to say 'na, we're good.' Though I never got one with feedback. That, I would have appreciated.
After 22 Online Rejections And Ghostings, I Finally Got An Interview! When I Arrived I Was Told They Had No Intentions Of Hiring Me And Just Wanted To Encourage Me To Continue My Education
That is the most abysmal thing I have read here, the words 'not nice' just don't cover it. I would be reporting them to the authorities and spreading the word everywhere I could about their truly unprofessional conduct. Frankly Tracy & Terry need to be fired immediately.
Unbelievable behaviour. I would make all this publicly known locally. And the people doing it.
Saw It Online
I hope they applied for the job just to see what would happen. "Sorry, we found a more experienced applicant"
Either they don't really want to hire anyone and are posting the job to give the impression they're a growing company (which I'm told is a thing these days), or they're so ignorant about the program that they don't actually know how long it's existed.
the word "requirements" should be stricken from 90% of job listings.
I’m Done
Back in the 80s recession it was very hard to find work and bank interests rates got north of 20%. F*****g Ronnie ray-gun and thatcher. Had a friend in the same field I was in. No job and he contacted dozens of employers. Kept all the rejection letters in a drawer.
This Guy Gets It
I...I'm honestly amazed it's taken so long for me to see something like this. It works so well...
Why So Secret?
Job Ads Nowadays. Sorry If Repost I Didn’t Find It In Search
Got An Email From A Recruiter Today. I Was Interested Until They Disclosed The Pay. It’s Seriously Insultingly Low For The Role And Requirements. So I Told Them Just That Over Email
Interviewing For My First Recruiting Job - Why Did I Start This Life??
Enough Said
Companies want the ability to fire you on the spot because they know many times the firing isn't justified and they fear retaliation in the form of people erasing hard drives or sabotaging equipment or outright theft, that's why they hustle you out the door BUT also ask you for 3 weeks notice if you are resigning.
Try getting a job at a competitor and giving your two weeks notice. Many times they won't let you stay.
Load More Replies...Worked for a low wage auto supplier for about a year. Opportunity came up for a steady gig. They wanted me to start on a Monday, told them I was quitting Thursday prior. "This won't look good on your work history".."I'm 55 yrs old, I think I'll be ok".
A lo of times when you hand in your two-week notice, they want you out the same day and will watch you pack your stuff to make sure you're not taking anything you shouldn't, or doing any damage to computer programs, etc. Then they walk you out the door. So yeah, why bother giving two weeks notice?
Just erase all your work before handing it in. Listen, if an employer is a*****e enough to drive me away, I will be the queen of petty when I leave.
Load More Replies...You should start lobbying for better notice times (or whatever they are called). We are told here that they are supposed to protect both the emplyee and the employer and they lengthen the more time you've worked on a job. Yes it might be annoying to work a month after wanting to quit (it's the longest it gets), but I take that because it means I got 6 month's notice from the employer in return. And if you just started there's no notice time for the employer, but there isn't one for you either.
Yes but there are often clauses in hiring contracts that include consequences for quitting with no prior notice.
Load More Replies...Last night I emailed my work and resigned. After weeks of thinking i was going crazy because i was sure i was checking mynwork and still making small mistakes, i had proof that my work was being edited after i submitted it. I had to sit through a 30 minute lecture of 1) i should be saving it to my desktop not my documents and 2) i should be making the file read only. Eff them, i am done.
Employees should be able to leave without notice. Companies should be required to give two weeks.
As An Autistic Person, I Despise Everything About This!
My dude, it's this way for all of us. I'm not autistic and I completely relate!
And now they make you do 3-4 interviews. Even my company when I got in 10 years ago was 1 interview. Now it's 3 and they pay the same as they did when I came in. It was good money 10 years ago but now it's about 3$ an hour more than working at Costco for a very physically demanding job. Until I was in my late 30s I'd never had a job that I wasn't hired on the spot after first interview. If I left with a "we'll be in touch." I assumed I didn't get hired. I almost didn't start where I'm at because they didn't call me till 3 weeks later to make an offer. The company is going downhill but the process of finding a new job is half the reason I haven't left yet. Its daunting.
Load More Replies...Who Were You In Your Past Life?
Well I guess that makes you overqualified for the job, unless you were applying to replace an abdicated monarch
A Company Found Me On Linkedin And Reached Out To Me, This Was My Response
That is basically asking for a video resume, and guess what? In the U.S. it's illegal to ask for photos or videos before the interview, because it usually means you're using things like race or age to pick candidates for your job. So don't do this, ever!
A video application, aka a show and dance performance, to prove to you how I'd be good at the job you're hiring for? I can't properly explain my disgust at the unprofessional vibes of this, but I'll try: You want a show? Go hire clowns. You want an eager performance? Go train a dog. Unless you're trying to fill a position as some kind of performance artist, be it actor, singer, or stripper, don't tell me to do a musical number to prove my "worth".
This
If you desperately want to interview people so you can pretend you did something, you can hire actors to come in and interview for the job.
But why hire if you can leverage desperation to get it for free? /s, for those who didn't get I'm agreeing with you :-)
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I have a feeling that at this company, "limited bookkeeping" means that's all you'd be doing!
Job description: No bookkeeping required / Hiring manager: We're looking for a CPA
I've had this happen to me. When I was in school, I applied for a job stocking shelves in a Toys R Us. I was hired and the first thing anyone said to me on day one was I'd be doing no stocking. My job was to assemble displays (which I didn't know how to do).
We Don’t Count Internships As Experience Here, So Let’s Just Forget All Of That
That's two strikes in one swing. If internships don't count as experience, than wtf are they for?
I thought that the whole POINT of an internship was experience. And while we're on the subject: unpaid internships should be illegal unless it's literally a volunteer position at a registered NPO or something.
In the US, unpaid internships are illegal if the intern is doing any sort of work that could or would otherwise be done by an employee. It's completely unenforced. Just one of the many many ways wage theft adds up to a multibillion dollar crime spree every year.
Load More Replies...Better Start Hiring Then
Burn
See, my philosophy is that a GAP in a resume is nobody else's damn business. It's not work, so why do they need to know?
Yes! I hate that they seem to assume people are sitting around doing nothing if they don't work. Life happens! Sometimes you've got to mentally or physically reset, or you have other obligations that are paramount.
Load More Replies..."Sure, we have a gap in our staff because one guy was running a criminal empire on the side. CEO position was filled, so we fired him, and he's now in jail accumulating a gap in his resume."
This Guy Gets It
People Are Human And Human Things Happen
I’ve been so worried about going back to work after 16 years, during which time I developed epilepsy, had 2 kids - one of which has a condition so rare it took us 8 years to get a diagnosis - moving twice for my husband’s jobs, multiple family members died… So yes, hiring manager, I do in fact know how to perform under stress.
it's not a morality or ethical thing, but it does show a potential employer your potential for staying with them if hired. that you are more likely to have some 'life event' and then leave them versus another applicant.
Don't Know If This Has Been Posted Here Yet
Naming And Shaming Done Right
Asqa sounds like they are barely keeping their head above water. Trying to make due with 10 percent less headcount while c- level just got good bonuses for increased profits.
Load More Replies...THANK YOU for not blurring the names. These companies and their employees deserve to be known.
Opinion
Boomer here. We are not all like that. Please, please don't generalize. It's divisive. In my time I've been treated way worse by managers and others much younger than me. It's not an age thing.
Many of us went through a major financial crisis and consequent lay offs. Plenty of us applied for numerous roles after that so have experience. Plus I very much doubt we'd have a nervous breakdown. I, for example, had a portfolio career and went to many interviews coming out the other side without a meltdown.
Good for you. It's not like that for everyone, and dismissive sentiments like this are /why/ boomers keep getting generalized the way they are.
Load More Replies..."Boomer" seems to have morphed into a catch-all for "anybody older than me".
Load More Replies...This boomer doesn't give job-hunting advice. Where is your god now?
I went through a round of job applications about ten years ago, just because I'd effectively retired but was on two years of unemployment benefit (worth up to 120k per year here in CH). OK, so I never really wanted most of the jobs, but I did go through one interview process at the company I'd been at for 15 years by this point. The HR interview was the worst, when th pathetic droid would simply not believe that I had personally taken some decisions waaay above my paygrade to hold off on certain d**g applications until a technical problem was solved, and also that I'd always managed to avoid conflict in the workplace so was unable to bring any examples of how I'd successfully dealt with it.
What Usually Leads People To Find Another Job
A Little Too Accurate
I'm a boomer. I bought my first and only house at age 47 because I could never manage to save enough money to do it sooner. And I needed a special program to do it. I only know one person in my age group who has a lot of money. The rest of us worked our tails off and many could only afford to buy a house because they had a spouse with an income, or because on or both of them worked more than one job. When I lost my long time job to outsourcing, it took me 15 months to get another. Then the pandemic ended that. We are not all rich, we are not all stupid, and we are not all constantly bashing young folks. I'd like to see an end to the ageism because it's not helping anyone.
Pretty much the same here. And I only know two boomers for whom retirement will ever be an option, one of them only because he got run over by an ambulance. All the rest will work until they drop. None of them have delusions that the job and housing markets are easy for young people.
Load More Replies...Company: My Next Hire Needs To Be Enthusiastic About The Role So This Doesn't Happen Again
The last place I worked - I'm retired now - had an interesting policy. If someone left, their responsibilities were given to someone else. Even if they knew diddly-squat about it. I was hired to be corporate librarian, not a training scheduler, a flower-waterer, or a mail-deliverer. It place was toxic.
“I know! Let’s hire more people at half the salary! That’ll fix it………. No one wants to work anymore!”
Hard Same
New. Better flavor than the used ones, and there's less gravel to deal with.
Load More Replies...Friend of mine recently applied for a number of jobs with cover letters written by chatgpt. Said they were better than anything he could write and took about 30 seconds.
Let's not forget the thank-you letter they expect you to write after the interview! It doesn't help you get the job, but it makes you look willing to bow and scrape to boost their egos!
Another Way Of Putting It : My Quality Of Life And Mental Health Is Being Dictated By Others
Happened to me. The pandemic put me out of work at 59. Had a couple interviews soon after but no offers. Then I turned 60, and didn’t even get acknowledgments my applications were received. In total, I put in nearly a thousand applications that year and ended up with nothing. Just because someone is in their sixties doesn’t mean they don’t have bills to pay, ffs. Luckily, my husband got pissed off enough to start his own company and needed me to join him in it.
This Happens All The Time
I don't bother filling it out. If they ask me to fill out pages manually and require a resume, it's not worth my time UNLESS it pays well above average
Rejected From An Internship For Not Having Enough Experience
Maybe they need a professional intern. Like a seat filler at a big televised event when someone gets up so it actually looks like people showed up
You joke about it, but that's an actual job people hire for in some businesses. I knew someone whose entire job was to travel around the country doing 'intern' work at this one company for several weeks at a time. He'd get paid travel, and room and board, and would essentially do what the interns did. The company used him to give their interns breaks. Think Vacation, but unpaid time off.
Load More Replies...This Is What It’s Come To
The applicant says that they did this "single handedly" but I was always under the impression that light bulb changing was a group project
Only takes one therapist, but the light bulb has to really want to change.
Load More Replies...A Delightful Find On Linkedin
Can't get a girl cause I haven't got a car. Can't get a car cause I ain't got a job. I'm looking for a girl with a job and a car.
I remember living for a few of those years thinking the same thing! Networking is key.
So Inspiring
"No One Wants To Work!"
I Ran Into One Today
This is a case where the paragraphing tips you off to beware the content.
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Recruiter Asked Me To Record A Video Response To 4 Questions. This Is My Reply
Solid Advice
Unpaid internships should only be applied for, if they are required for your degree of study in college or university. Context: Many engineering positions have a requirement for degree certification (IE, to graduate) that the student must perform X number of hours working under a mentor (Experienced engineer). That work is to be performed as an unpaid intern, where the student is learning their field of study in a real world environment, and seeing how experienced graduates deal with situations as they arise.
Just Stop Please
Yes. Also, just because you have a MS degree doesn't mean you're more qualified than someone with a bachelor's degree. Most of us went to grad school because we had nothing better to do
Right. Spend all the time and money grad school requires because you had nothing better to do. Maybe, get a job and work for a few years to get money to go to grad school so you could advance in your profession.
Load More Replies...Damn, That Felt Good!
An employer agreed to an interview on a specific date (the one weekday I had off per month, hence why I agreed to it) and in a different city. I show up and the ash soles say, "Can you come back tomorrow?" And then they whined when I posted on the FB job board what happened. If I had lied, they'd have something to complain about.
Oh No It’s Totally Cool, I Love Booking 3 Separate Meetings To Be Bailed On Each Time By Someone With Crap Grammar
I'm Tired Of Recruiters Avoiding My Questions And Playing Dumb
The Only Acceptable Application. 2 Seconds If You're Slow
When I worked as an HR Recruiter (ie a specialist in recruitment within the HR team), we modified our application process to resemble this, although we added a couple of optional diversity questions at the end. The outcome was a 60% increase in applications and we got vacancies down to zero. Why can't all companies do this? It is not even as though the recruiters even read the manual information you put in.
Saw This On Linkedin And Had A Good Laugh!
I can only make out Ditto, Vulpix, Feebas, Sawk, Ekans, & Metapod. Not sure if Onyx meant Onix or not but hey, there have you XP XD
The only two I know as programs are python and java... far as I know the whole lot apart from those could be Pokemon
Load More Replies...Hadoop is on the list twice. I'm wondering what Purrr, lazy, bootstrap and Sparkling-water actually are, if not Pokemon, which I don't think they are??
Gold
LinkedIn is theoretically a useful site, but it is plagued by people writing fantasy stories (job advice) and pathetic bragging (updates on changes in status).
Nothing They Can Do
Goddamn This Felt Good
Contrary To A Number Of Recruiters’ Popular Belief, I Do Very Much Care About The Money. Did You Think My Childhood Dream Was To Send An Email To Request Reimbursement Approval For Airport Parking To Pick Up Someone Snotty Visiting From The Head Office?
I Am So Sick Of These Ridiculous Screening Questions
the first 2 questions have NOTHING to do with any job. i'd tell them these are personal issues that are not related to being qualified for a position.
They are attempting to use these to screen for specific political beliefs because you can't openly ask about it legally
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If you are interviewing multiple candidates, then I can interview for multiple companies.
A bleeding edge is indicative of poor knife skills in the kitchen or of someone who shaved too fast this morning. 🤷♂️
"How I Got A Job At Big 4 Being In My 20s."
Solid Advice From The Man Himself
Listen Up!
Isn't that negative? Job hopping seems like you're not good or happy at any you've had.
I guess it depends on the industry. In IT, it's common to change jobs every few years as your career grows. For instance, maybe you started out as a Tier 1 Help Desk support, and you have been studying to move up to Server Administrator. But your employer doesn't have that position open, so you get an offer somewhere else. Most (*most*) IT managers understand that you have to do this.
Load More Replies...A Linkedin Laugh
NGL I wished my company would have a small aptitude test. For context grocery store stocking. "Have you ever shopped and bought food"? Even after initial training, they look like deer in headlights, with company provided tools to help. Talking about adults here, not teens on their first job.
At 58, A Recruiter Says ‘Too Old To Code’—heartbreaking 😭
Don't laugh. My sister wasn't getting job offers in her early 50s because her hair had gone gray. After she dyed it, big surprise! She got job offers.
Not Sure If It Fits Here But Reminded Me Of R/Recruitinghell
No Idea If This Will Work, But Hey - Worth The Try
Won't work. Most companies don't use ChatGPT to screen resumes - it takes too long. Much faster to open and skim read the CV, than upload the CV to ChatGPT and get an analysis of it.
It's becoming commonplace for large companies to use AI to screen applicants for specific key words and terms. So it probably will work
Load More Replies..."Minority Drawers" Should Be A Crime
Doesn't surprise me. My entire working life, no agency has ever gotten me a job.
The Companies vs. Me
I had this happen once, except it was some 6 months into my current job, for which I had only put in a total of 3 applications in that search. So they were responding to an application I submitted at least a year and a half before.
Well!
Sounds like that line from "The Four Yorkshiremen" sketch about having to pay the owner of the mill for permission to work
Not if desperate people agree to do it - then it's 'sound business strategy'.
Load More Replies...Ayo This Lady Working For UPS Really Tried To Get Free Labor Out Of Me LOL
If you stop talking like a clown then maybe people will stop treating you like a clown op
Honestly, I think the UPS Store dodged a bullet. I've had this offer a couple of times, and it was never to work, it was always an hour or two to see what the job actually entailed and for the people you might be working with to get to meet you and see if you'd be a good fit. There was no 'free labor' involved or any expectation of it. If people are quitting and saying it's not what they expected, or if coworkers say the person was a bad match, this is one of the ways a company will combat that. It's more like a final interview that anything else.
I Had To Take A Walk After This
I don't know how the name is supposed to be parsed, but this read to me as Sun Asian Chad B. Which seems appropriate given how much of a tool the writer is.
If you read the top, the business is Sun Asian Kitchen. Chad B. is the person. This is a fairly common naming convention for social media when someone is representing a business.
Load More Replies...Gap In My Employment History, In 2017 I Was Fourteen
Was I Being Impolite? Had This Exchange On Linkedin
For The Memes, Because We’ve All Been There
why did I bother to upload my resume if you want/need my to write it out? it's redundant and a waste of my time
It's because, they are testing you to see if your resume is real. You'd be surprised how often people will forget what they put on a fake resume, and get dates or salaries wrong when they have to type it out. So they're checking for discrepancies.
Load More Replies..."This Is Your Only Means Of Interview" - So I Simply Refused
Interviewer Cancelled An Hour Before The Meeting. I Know My Worth
Not pictured is the return text "Well, I thank you for your consideration. I'll just tell my father that he needs to die some other time when it's more convenient for your schedule."
The thing about this type of response is, it's just plain wrong. It's neat to feel superior and give them "the what for" due to their supposed lack of professionalism, but it's hypocritical. I did this once. Once. My response from the interviewer was their mother had just been submitted to the hospital for an injury after a car accident, and they were clearing their schedule before they went to the hospital; an extremely responsible action instead of just ghosting like some would. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would've appreciated them rescheduling if I had to cancel an hour before due to something like that. Life happens.
Hello Darkness, My Old Friend
I Cant Do This Anymore
What do you want from the rejected candidate then? Are they supposed to cheer for you?
I See Why Recruiters Ask Stupid Questions Now. I Apologize
As far as I'm concerned, answering, "I want to work here because I need a job. I have bills to pay and have to buy food, clothing, and transportation," IS answering with grace because it is 100% honest. They need to stop playing these games. You're talking with them throughout the interview and answering other questions, if they can't tell from that how well you communicate, they aren't qualified to choose a candidate.
Agree. If it is just for answering costumers about products, theres no need to go that far, being honest, straight to the point and a good attitude will do. Unless you are applying for public relations position, you need to be good on answering "sensitive" questions from media incase a crisis in going on...
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Just Going To Leave This Here
Of course that was on Fox. When will they do one showing the percentages of employers who have asked for candidates to do unpaid work, offered below-market rate or less than minimum wage, canceled interviews at the last minute, made vulgar suggestions to candidates, asked candidates to bring them coffee on their way in, lied about the compensation and benefits, or all the other c**p they pull?
For years, I've been posting BP posts in FB and rating reading most of them. I can't feel good about posting them any more because they're incomplete without becoming premium. And I find myself less and less interested in reading them myself.
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I once interviewed for a receptionist position for a renovation company. It was one owner and the office was in his garage (he interviewed at a coffee shop.) He explained that he expected a trial run week and if it worked he’d hire permanently. No pay. Needless to say I noped it out of there
If the job advert lacks information, ask for it. Call, send an email or whatever. Don't get an answer or answer does not match with your expectations? Then don't apply. Life can sometimes be easy if energy is invested in finding solutions instead of complaining.
That is literally what some of these candidates did. Unfortunately many hiring managers will take that as a sign that you "aren't invested in our company" or some such c**p.
Load More Replies...For years, I've been posting BP posts in FB and rating reading most of them. I can't feel good about posting them any more because they're incomplete without becoming premium. And I find myself less and less interested in reading them myself.
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I once interviewed for a receptionist position for a renovation company. It was one owner and the office was in his garage (he interviewed at a coffee shop.) He explained that he expected a trial run week and if it worked he’d hire permanently. No pay. Needless to say I noped it out of there
If the job advert lacks information, ask for it. Call, send an email or whatever. Don't get an answer or answer does not match with your expectations? Then don't apply. Life can sometimes be easy if energy is invested in finding solutions instead of complaining.
That is literally what some of these candidates did. Unfortunately many hiring managers will take that as a sign that you "aren't invested in our company" or some such c**p.
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