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30 Anti-Work Posts That Might Make You Want To Quit On The Spot
Interview With Expert
Even when working the dreamiest of dream positions, it’s not realistic to love our jobs every single day. There’s a level of tedium and monotony in every profession, which sometimes makes us frustrated with capitalist society. And this aggravation must be vented, or otherwise it will accumulate and crush our souls.
The people in the list below did just that and felt infinitely better. Scroll down to find some of the most brutally honest anti-work posts they shared, and don’t forget to upvote the ones you positively agree with.
While you're at it, make sure to check out a conversation with Dr. Sharon Grossman, psychologist and executive coach at Turnkey Retention Solutions, and Helen Lawson Williams, founder of TANK - ending burnout, who kindly agreed to share their best tips on how we can enjoy work more.
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Riley Quinn 8 months ago
Name one person, just one person, who came by their fortunes legitimately. Inheritance? Follow the money backwards. The rich use their attorneys like they were attack dogs, combing through government laws to find loopholes and work arounds. Lottery winners might be the only ones who didn't screw someone over to pad their bank account.
Michael Largey 8 months ago
I don’t begrudge an author who made money by writing a book many people enjoyed or were helped by.
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Ginger ninja 8 months ago (edited)
He’s always been a c u next tuesday, its only recently that its been called out
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Lowrider 56 8 months ago
If those billionaires wanted to they could do a lot better than what they are doing now
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Enlee Jones 8 months ago (edited)
Me wanting a living wage is "greed" but Elon Musk buying another super yacht is A-Okay. Got it.
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Enlee Jones 8 months ago
Jeff Bezos flying around in space for 10 minute is a-okay but me wanting a livable wage is a problem??
G A 8 months ago
Making his workers pee in a bottle was worth getting Wm Shatner into space.....?
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Riley Quinn 8 months ago
I would love to place all the blame on greedy billionaires, it's easy enough. But our governments allowed these greedy PoS to breed and grow via deregulation and turning a blind eye, all in the name of Holy Capitalism. And lazy morons keep voting these elected officials into office.
bart simpson 8 months ago
Amazon just recently closed its Quebec distribution center because the workers were about to get unionized. Walmart has done the same in the past. So NO Jerzy (just below) we are NOT all playing by the same rules.
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Tamra 8 months ago
No. The wealth class has vastly different rules than the working class. Case in point: you commit a felony, you go to jail. Trump commits 34 felonies and becomes president.
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She further explains that employees are tired of the "hustle culture" masquerading as ambition and status mattering more than mental health. "Work is eating up people's resources so much that there's not enough energy or time left for the 'life' part of the equation."
Instead, people want a sense of purpose and flexibility, not just a paycheck, she says. "This isn't a perk, it's really non-negotiable."
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Tamra 8 months ago (edited)
A good example: Trump gutting agencies that foster education, housing and healthcare while spending millions of taxpayer dollars to play golf. Or, Trump blathering on and on about cutting waste, fraud and abuse in the government, and then saying he's going to give ONE TRILLION taxpayer dollars to the Pentagon, even though they've NEVER passed an audit, and can't account for billions of dollars.
Riley Quinn 8 months ago
Oh, I don't want to just steal their money and redistribute among organizations for people in need of silly things like housing, education, and medical attention. I want them rounded up and put on a remote uninhabited island with a month's supply of food and necessities. After that, they'd be on their own to figure out how to survive, just like us.
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Cpt. Christan "Panda Bombero" 8 months ago
Unless you are a sworn uniformed person. When you wear a Fire Rescue EMS or Law Enforcement uniform, you represent your department, even when off-duty, because in theory, "we always have a duty to act." We even have SOPs, that say just that.
Charles McChristy 8 months ago
Well, that was true before social media, but if you are in the park and call the cops pretending some black guy minding his own buisness is threating and assulting you, you deserve to lose your job because the public WILL take it out on the company. You think you are worth affecting the bottom line for whatever company you work for?! Keep dreaming lmao
BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
I agree with this to an extent. There are caveats. The first and most obvious being: If you are portraying yourself as a spokesperson of the company. For instance, if you go on TikTok wearing your company uniform and rant, you are actively portraying yourself as that company's spokesperson. The second one is less obvious: If you are making public statements which threaten the safety of the company's customers or clients, especially while they are interacting with the company, then all bets are off. For instance, if you are an home health aide and you start ranting about how you hate black people (which is something that happened), don't be surprised when you get fired. You are making that company's customers feel unsafe when working with that company. EVEN IF you are not explicitly stating your relationship with that company.
azubi 8 months ago
I love these people who always cite those obvious, but rare instances to downplay a sound rule
Load More Replies... Riley Quinn 8 months ago
I've worked at jobs where it's plainly stated I could do whatever I wanted on my own time as long as I didn't bring the company's name into it. Don't know what happened to these companies that wanted to preserve their reputation while allowing their employees to live their lives off the clock.
Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
What has your employer regulated about your private life ? They do not have time for that.
Michael Largey 8 months ago
Seeing how little they actually contribute to the success of the business, they really have all the time in the world.
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Riley Quinn 8 months ago
Thankfully, a research study proved what we've all know for generations. Next research study: do humans need oxygen to live.
Senjo Krane 8 months ago
The only reason any of us work is to make enough money to live, not to sing songs and do team f*****g activities.
"The anti-work movement is a response to the feeling that the time and effort that goes into a lot of jobs isn’t fairly rewarded," Helen Lawson Williams, founder of TANK - ending burnout, adds.
"Pay in many fields has stagnated or declined in real terms, conditions have eroded, and job security feels like a very last-century concept. When people feel like they’ve been treated unfairly - when their work isn’t appreciated and their employers are hoarding the value they create - they get angry. That’s anti-work."
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Riley Quinn 8 months ago
Transgendered people are not the issue, they are the distraction. While angry, stupid people, frothing at the mouth, are focusing on trans in schools and sports, their elected officials are fiddling off in a corner. When will voters learn to distinguish between actual issues and distractions.
Emma London 8 months ago
How come only 36 is without health insurance if 85 are illiterate? Did they buy the insurance by pointing and clicking?
superfluous 8 months ago
I keep reading and rereading this and they seem to be saying the reason the US is the way it is is because of trans hate?
G A 8 months ago
No, they are saying that blaming trans people is not going to get to the root cause of all the issues that exist.
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Trashy Panda 8 months ago
Do you really think 1 in 400 people is shot every day? That's almost a million people and everyone will be dead in just over a year. 🤣
Inigo Montoya 8 months ago
Yes it's too high. In fairness though, OP said "shot", which includes non-fatal shootings. I checked stats and the most recent data is 48,000 shot dead and 76,000 non-fatal shootings per year. Doing the math, this comes to 0.15 people out of 400. So they generously rounded up, but are not wildly off.
Load More Replies... azubi 8 months ago
Thank you for vividly demonstrating the term "distractions"
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Michael Largey 8 months ago
What would Jesus do today? Get crucified by the religious authorities just like before.
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James016 8 months ago
Because disabled people are benefiting from tax payers' money and that's just wrong /s
Steve 8 months ago
Yeah...because billionaires get free handouts and bailouts.
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G A 8 months ago
You mention Musk on all of these, and have your facts wrong on them too. I hate the t**t with a passion, but get your facts straight if you're going to criticise. It makes your comments redundant.
Load More Replies... Geoffrey Scott 8 months ago
Or an income cap on my 'early' social security. "Yeah, went out at 62 from a $35kyr job, now I'm gonna make a million+/yr"
Those who feel unhappy with their jobs commonly lack fairness, recognition, resources, and advancement and have micromanaging bosses, says Dr. Grossman, explaining it further below:
- Lack of recognition: Many managers feel like they don't need to appreciate their employees because "that's their job." But people like to feel seen.
- Lack of advancement: People want to have a career trajectory. They don't want to stay stuck where they are. If they see they've hit a ceiling, they'll go elsewhere.
- Micromanaging boss: If you display behaviors like micromanagement or lack of delegation, it delivers the message that you lack trust in your employees. No one likes to be on the receiving end of that.
- Lack of resources: If you're expected to do your job, but you don't have sufficient resources with which to do it, you're going to burn out.
- Lack of fairness: If people are promoted unfairly or your voice isn't being listened to or downplayed, this will lead to a toxic culture. Companies need to strive to create psychological safety.
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BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
I think the idea of using a revolution to solve this problem may sound tempting, but here's the historical problem with that. Revolutions, and even more so violent revolutions, rarely lead to a better system of governance or economics. And when the they do, it usually takes 100-150 years of living in absolute misery first. The most effective change comes as a result of sustained civil disobedience.
Load More Replies... Riley Quinn 8 months ago (edited)
We experienced sort of a revolution back in the 60/70's, but as soon as the government acceded to some of our demands, which turned out to be merely lip service, we went about business as usual. Take Civil Rights. Okay, we're all equal. Not so fast. That's when the government started flooding Black neighborhoods with drügs and guns. Voilà! Prison slave labor. Not quite the Civil Rights we were fighting for. Edit: Notice the d-word is censored, but not the word gun. Priorities, BP, priorities.
Kate 8 months ago
The last attempted coup was. Treasonous folks are now free.
Load More Replies... Tamra 8 months ago
People should not HAVE to have a second job. We need a government that's willing to b!itch slap these corporations into providing worker protections and decent pay. Wages have not been commensurate with inflation since the 1960's. The problem isn't the working class, genius.
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Riley Quinn 8 months ago
Stress doesn't merely change a person on a molecular level, it's inherited. Those stress genes are passed on to the next generations.
BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
What's interesting about that research is that it seems to point to relative stress vs abundance levels in distinct regions. For instance, neurological damage caused by stress to the brains of poor black children in the United States is significantly higher than the damage done to much poorer children in sub-Saharan African. What's particularly interesting, is immigrants from Africa show similar neurological degradation after being in the United States for 5 years. There's an immigration video for you: Come to the US. Get Brain Damage from Stress Caused by Racism!!!
Magenta Blu 8 months ago
And this is a secret???? Do you need to get a degree for realizing this??? Any random person with limited incomes can tell this
LittleTeapot 8 months ago
Sure. But having data that shows it objectively is useful in making changes.
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James016 8 months ago
Saw a reel recently where someone said that billionaires should be taxed on their assets as well as than their income. Since some of them pay themselves $1 a year in salary
Kyra Noelle 8 months ago
I know Missouri you have to pay a yearly tax for your property, i.e. home, car, boat, RV etc.. Just a thought.
Load More Replies... Riley Quinn 8 months ago
I never liked Batman, and this is the primary reason. Besides, he's a whinging little pain in the butt. Your parents died. Boo-hoo. Join the millions whose parents have died or been disappeared only they don't have two nickels to rub together.
Williams additionally notes that job dissatisfaction is closely related to the people in our work environment. "We’re social creatures. We live or die by how well we’re supported by, and how much we can contribute to, our social groups. Given how much time we spend there, work is a really important social group," she says.
"If your work has you doing things that aren’t meaningful to you (or worse, are against your values), among people who transparently don’t care about you, you’re very unlikely to be happy. And that’s exactly what we're seeing. Employee engagement is at an all-time low because very few people can get engaged in work that’s purely transactional."
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turk 8 months ago
It is right now officially impossible to unionize. You can vote for one and win the right to unionize, and then have 90 days to get it approved by the NLRB board. But since Trump fired workers off the NLRB board and has refused to appoint any new ones, thus leaving the board without the minimum quorum to be functional, no new unions can be approved. So, Trump has taken away the Constitutional right to unionize. Thanks again, MAGAts.
superfluous 8 months ago
Thank you - I learned something new - constitutional right to unionize https://laborlab.us/resource/your_right_to_unionize_is_protected_by_the_u_s_constitution/
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superfluous 8 months ago
Well they pay for it! (See us supreme court as an example)
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trump was convicted for falsifying business records related to payments made to Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election.
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superfluous 8 months ago
"the guilt you feel about it isn't real"? I disagree. The guilt is part of the system, programmed in by religion and those stupid awards at school for perfect attendance. The guilt should be beaten down vigorously and told to f**k off.
Michael Largey 8 months ago
The school where I taught had an annual awards program in the evening. That’s where we gave out the perfect attendance awards. No recipient ever attended.
Load More Replies... In order to find more enjoyment in our work, Williams suggests putting hard boundaries around it so there's time for enjoyment outside work. "There are probably small things you can do to improve work, e.g., finding at least one friend you can have a laugh with, but the key skill in this situation is being able to switch off and leave work at work," she says.
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Cheeky chicken 8 months ago
I miss sir terry. When I read his last discworld novel I had to keep stopping cos of the tears. It was a great book but sadly the last....getting all teary again now x
liam newton-harding 8 months ago
I have not read, “The Shepherd’s Crown”. I have read every single one of his books multiple times, but never once, “The Shepherd’s Crown”, because once I do there will never be another Pratchett book to read, and if I don’t, there will always be a “new” one, for me to look forward to.
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Geoffrey Scott 8 months ago
'We' are cutting the government offset for ACA and making those slackers on Medicaid get jobs. "WHAT? What do you mean you can't work cause your body's all used up from a lifetime of manual labor?"
Not-a-Clue (she/her) 8 months ago
As a diabetic in the UK, I not only get my diabetes medication free (ie I don't even pay the nominal prescription charge) but any other medication I might need is also entirely free. Hooray for the NHS!
Tonyah Mcanelly 7 months ago
THis is so true and horrible . they give free Narcan to people intentionally poisinoing their bodies . But charging people a boat load trying to keep their bodies from poisoning them
Tamra 8 months ago
Those that support Doge are typically of low intelligence and lack a moral compass.
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Susan Wilson 8 months ago
Just put all government officials on minimum wage. It'll go up to a living wage and you'll get better government officials.
"If you do have a bit of a financial buffer, or options in the job market, take a half hour to do two things: assess your values (we have a tool to help: https://values.thisisyourtank.com/ ) and work out what you could be doing to get your work better aligned with them. Pulling against your values is exhausting, and if your workplace is full of people who hold values that are opposed to yours, you’re going to find it really hard to connect with them. Consider whether a different team, a different workplace, or a different career might put you in a better place to do something that’s really meaningful to you, with people you enjoy being around," Williams further suggests.
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Susie Elle 8 months ago
No, this implies some sort of maltreatment of him that forced him to become the villain. Bezos is just a billionaire businessowner who doesn't give two s***s about his workers.
Load More Replies... liam newton-harding 8 months ago
Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg…they cosplay as Batman, when all they really are are cheap knockoffs of Doctor Evil.
G A 8 months ago
When have any of them pretended to be Batman, they've all always been evil sh1ts. They aren't even Supervillains-they don't have the excuse of insanity or a criminal personality. They are just bar stewards.
Load More Replies... Charles McChristy 8 months ago
The problem is you'll never make a billion dollars thinking that way.
LittleTeapot 8 months ago
Sigh. I say again, louder this time, “the government” IS you and me and our neighbor. The people “wasting” all that money are your family and friends. DOGE is not making anything more efficient. It’s a front to dismantle governmental organizations that hold companies accountable. It’s a sledgehammer because a scalpel is to hard to wield - you have to have experience and training to wield a scalpel….not so with a sledgehammer. Finally, do you know how much the US government spends on contracts as compared to the actual federal workforce? It DWARFS the cost of the federal workforce. You know what you spend more on when you cut the federal workforce? Federal contracts. That now have less oversight. You know who benefits? The CEOs of those companies. Not you. Not me. Not your neighbor. (Some assumptions there on who you and your neighbor are)
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superfluous 8 months ago
1. There are pills that do that? 2. Where can I get some (without going to a doctor)?
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Enlee Jones 8 months ago
Then Musk's mommy tells the rest of us peasants that we don't have to go out eat, just pop out kids we don't want.
Tamra 8 months ago
Oh f*ck off. When is the last time you were genuinely hungry? Hm? If you've never been truly hungry, then sit down and shut up.
Load More Replies...Meanwhile, what workplaces can do to improve employees' job satisfaction is "create a culture of recognition and appreciation, create opportunities for team building, and carefully match tasks to individual strengths while also providing their teams with sufficient resources to get the job done," says Dr. Grossman.
"People find satisfaction in their work when they connect with their manager and their coworkers, when they feel a sense of purpose in their work, and when they are challenged, but not overwhelmed by the demands."
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Peet 8 months ago
Sorry, but why do you think "socialized healthcare" means waiting in line? If I need a doctors appointment I call them and be seen in the next tree days. If they think it's an emergency I'm seen right away. Normal medical triage is perfomed for appointments and surgeries.
James016 8 months ago
So true, for minor things, it can be a couple of days, when I called to about getting checked for prostrate cancer my dad had it, I was seen within an hour.
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H Daven 8 months ago
Um, generally in societies with socialized healthcare it's the people wanting elective procedures that wait, not people needing emergent care.
H Daven 8 months ago
And yes, that is the horror of free market care, where conversely people with money get their elective procedures and those with emergent care needs typically have to prove they need them.
Load More Replies... superfluous 8 months ago
I have known it to take MONTHS to get in to see a specialist in the us. In a city with TWO hospitals! WITH a referral! Maybe the rich people are buying appointments?
Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Waiting to see a doctor means people out number doctors. Nothing more nothing less.
Trashy Panda 8 months ago
I've been in both systems and I waited longer in the US for everything
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Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Unemployment is not more than you made at your job. What would be the incentive in that ?
Billo66 8 months ago
It's usually 2/3 of you're income. Subtract childcare and fuel and you're there. During the pandemic folks got quite a bit too.
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Riley Quinn 8 months ago
Shortly after HighSchool, I got a job in a factory that emphasized speed. Uh, no. Not for minimum wage. You wanna pay me piecework, fine. I'm not working that fast so you can turn a profit on my underpaid labor.
Šimon Špaček 8 months ago
I feel like it is caused by outsourcing services. Do you know that one major insurance company was sending about 2 million dollars each year to company in Czech republic for tech support? And that AT&T is doing the same thing? That is few millions that will not go back anytime soon, we were spending our money mostly on local food, beer and rent. Now imagine how many other companies have support here and how many others have India. I know, 2 millions per year is not that much, but when 100 companies do it?
"Workplaces could start by recognizing that people work best when they feel valued and supported," seconds Williams. "Even the most boring, repetitive jobs can be meaningful and create a sense of connection if they’re done collaboratively and it’s clear what larger goal they contribute to. Workplaces that reward performative busyness so that everyone feels under constant time pressure rarely realize that what they’re sacrificing is creativity, meaning, and connection. You can’t build any of those things when people are constantly at their limit," she concludes.
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Geoffrey Scott 8 months ago
"I'll just put in a self-serve kiosk and have my CUSTOMERS work for me"
Susan Wilson 8 months ago
Because stores have arranged it so that you never see those who make the decisions that bug you. You have no access to them.
Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Now this is some stupid stuff. No one is mad at the employee except the impatient, immature jerk in the line. Grow up jerk.
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BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
Getting a bit sensitive, aren't we sweetie. It'll be okay. The big bad liberals won't hurt you baby.
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LittleTeapot 8 months ago
Just goes to show we don’t actually like diamonds that much. We like the status they portray and the club we belong to if we own them.
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Soton_Sherpa 8 months ago
Tales from the Riverbank! I loved the TV series that had real animals. Early '70's IIRC.
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James Sherman 8 months ago
Interesting how when one bemoans the obvious failings of capitalism some jump to communism as the only alternative for runaway capitalism. That's not how it works. You've bought the 1% lie.
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turk 8 months ago
Yes, my MAGAt co-workers still cry about the "violence" of BLM and say they should protest peacefully. And then they throw a fit when anyone kneels for the anthem at a sporting event and want them immediately deported.
G A 8 months ago (edited)
I am on another site where it is always leftist violence never the right. I disabuse them of this regularly.
Load More Replies... Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Those protesting DOGE do not understand the goals of DOGE. Wake up people. Open your ears and eys and listen for a change.
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BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
My retirement plan is that shotgun in my safe. Whether I use it to rob banks, or just to end it, I haven't decided yet.
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Susan Wilson 8 months ago
It is in their best interests to do so. Not only do they get more money but keeping the working class poor mean there will always be some poor slob willing to do whatever they have to just to survive.
BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
Left wing radical speaking here, but no this isn't really true. Economics is not a zero sum game. There isn't some like big pool of money that exists in a finite amount. One wealthy person doesn't create 10 poor people. It actually IS possible to "raise all boats". The issue is simply that this isn't really the point at all. They don't want to raise all boats, because increasing the living standards of ALL people, means their living standards FEEL lower. It's a game of comparison. But you can become wealthy while also improving the lives of your employees and members of your community. It's just harder.
Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Now this is the stupidest thing stated on this childish list of cry baby c**p yet. Grow up people, others are not the root of your issues. Look in the mirror, open your ears and eys and follow what Elon is doing. It is for the good of all of us. He is not a democrat or a republican, he is a man that hates greed, corruption and theft. By stopping that Trump can then increase benefits and lower or eliminate taxes. Your friendly leftist government is at fault, not those trying to fix it. He is going to use money already taken from us by all those old men and women in the government already. The ones you think support you.
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Lila Allen 8 months ago
As long as they are sharpened properly guillotines are actually the most humane way to execute someone. That was, in fact, the reason they were developed. The French just got a bit over enthused and it gave them a negative image
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superfluous 8 months ago (edited)
It's in the ToS (terms of service) for the HP InstaInk subscription, which this person signed up for and provided their debit card. ETA link https://news.softpedia.com/news/why-hp-can-remotely-disable-printers-if-you-cancel-a-4-99-monthly-subscription-528922.shtml
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BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
This is especially true in the case of transit worker strikes. The news is always about how this will hurt commuters. We are workers too bro. I support your strike. If it means it takes me a bit longer to get to work for a month, then so be it. Solidarity!
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Geoffrey Scott 8 months ago
"Nobody wants to work anymore", someone in Venezuela says.."wanna bet?" then complain about all the folks coming over the border. If ICE were to actually want to get rid of illegal immigrants, they would START at JBS and every other slaughterhouse where the cleanup crews are underage, never mind the floor workers. But that would affect everyone's lives, and that would be wrong, RIGHT? Mr CEO?
superfluous 8 months ago
No, silly. They CREATE jobs with their wants. You know, trickle down. Rich gutly wants a $500 million yacht? LOTS of jobs from that!
Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Many rich people work way over 40 hours a week and pay for everything they have. Where are the magic freebees they can't produce ? You need to wake up dude.
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superfluous 8 months ago
Without actual numbers, it is impossible to tell how badly or well off she is. Is she is making / her father was making in 1993 $1 million a year, I would have trouble sympathizing.
H Daven 8 months ago
Use your brain to even try to understand the comparison and you may understand it's not hard to be sympathetic bc obviously her father wasn't making $1million a year in 1993 or she wouldn't have stated what she did.
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superfluous 8 months ago
But the stadium provides jobs and contributes to the local economy! And he will move the franchise if they don't subsidize him! /s
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Jeremy James 8 months ago
Trump tried to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014 but lost the bid. If we had just let him have it, he would have been too preoccupied with his, "big, tough guys," to run for President and ALL OF THIS could have been averted.
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Susan Wilson 8 months ago
My grandfather who quit school at age 14 to be a coal miner in the great depression and was able to afford a 2 story house on a nice sized piece of land, his wife didn't work, his children all educated. In my father's generation you could easily put yourself through university with summer jobs. When I graduated I could eat for $40 a week and my first bachelor apartment was $300. I could live on minimum wage. Things went downhill pretty fast.
superfluous 8 months ago
Those numbers CANNOT be correct for the entirety of the boomer generation, which covers 18 years. I would like to see where he got them from. What amount for wages and cost of college? I understand the premise behind making remarks like this but by comparing boomers and millennials, he is making it an intergenerational fight instead of a fight against our elected representatives not representing WE THE PEOPLE!
BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
Hard to say. Between the 1860s and 1960s public universities in the United States were tuition free. Lincoln granted public universities land grants, and that, along with state and federal funding of universities allowed them to not charge tuitions at all. It was really in the 1960s and 1970s that universities started to change ANY tuition. This coincided with the American Civil Rights and Women's Liberation movements, which led to a reciprocal drop of state support for their public universities. I went to under-grad from 1997-2000, and my public university tuition was about $6000/year, while the federal minimum wage was $5.15/hour. So I'm a GenX, but that's about 1165 hours to pay for one year of tuition (at the minimum wage). Today, in-state tuition at Penn State is $20K/year, and the federal minimum wage is $7.25. That's 2759 hours for one year of tuition. Penn State's in-state tuition in 1980 was $450/year, while the federal minimum wage was $3.10/hour. That was only 145 hours.
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James016 8 months ago
Sometimes I think that the real reason that people get upset and think that jobs like flipping burgers get paid too much is that they themselves are underpaid and don't want to admit it. Got to look down your nose at people working in fast food....
Susie Elle 8 months ago
Or that they'd much rather be flipping burgers too if it would pay the bills than be stuck in the grind all day every day
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turk 8 months ago
I'm in a union and my union dues are about 3% of my wages. But I actually work with Trump supporters who say we don't need a union because the union steals from our wages. And yet, non-unionized workers in my same job make 50% less wages and get 80% less benefits. I keep telling these people to leave and go work at Wal-Mart. The cognitive dissonance is crazy.
Susie Elle 8 months ago (edited)
My previous job didn't have a union and the average raise was 0.2% a year. My current job does have a union and the average raise since I started working here has been around 4%. The union is also actively putting inclusiveness on the agenda each year and discusses themes like "should the right to 1 day PTO to mourn the death of a loved one be restricted to direct familymembers (which is how it usually is restricted), or should it be free to use regardless of who died (including pets)?" The second part was accepted.
Magenta Blu 8 months ago
If that happened in my country, only some top inner circle in the union would had become stinking rich. Unions are a pit of corruption in my country.
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Lady Eowyn 8 months ago
This is sad. Teachers and first responders should be getting the kind of money paid to "celebrities."
Šimon Špaček 8 months ago
There is way too many teachers for that, but I agree that nice salary would do a lot. Not only for current teachers, but I met so many people that wanted to teach but they couldn't afford it. They wanted their own family and fair enough place to live, that is not possible with teacher salary.
Load More Replies... Jerzy Janeczko 8 months ago
Many teachers become successful sales people, managers etc. Yes you will not get rich being a teacher unless you get into administration much like any profession.
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superfluous 8 months ago (edited)
I cannot find anything supporting that number! In 2023, the average was 31%. ETA and this is from 2019!
MagicJacket 8 months ago
I pay almost two of my weekly paychecks each month for rent. And I am sure that when my lease is up, the rent will go up again. So yeah, not OVER 50%, but just shy of it.
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H Daven 8 months ago
No. The point is going to therapy for issues caused by poverty doesn't solve the trauma caused by poverty perpetuated by capitalism. Nor does that therapy create actual effective coping skills. Because poverty causes trauma. Period.
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Šimon Špaček 8 months ago
I remember about 8 years ago there was a story about three tech companies planning to fire 40.000 Indians and hire 200 Europeans instead. I was absolutely shocked by the numbers. I mean, ratio 200:1 is crazy.
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superfluous 8 months ago
In the us the average salary is $63,119. For 9 months of work. That seems like a decent (average) wage to me? You can look up states - https://govsalaries.com/salaries/teacher-salary
Bigbad Wolfe 8 months ago
The national average public school teacher salary for 2022-23 was $69,597. State average teacher salaries ranged from those in California ($95,160), New York ($92,696), and Massachusetts ($92,307) at the high end to West Virginia ($52,870), Florida ($53,098), South Dakota ($53,153) at the low end. https://www.nea.org Teacher Pay & Per Student Spending While average teacher pay ranges from around $48,000 in Mississippi to around $88,000 in New York, teachers are paid less than the average employee in nearly every state. Hawaii is the only state where the average teacher pay is higher than the average pay across all professions
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Susan Wilson 8 months ago
Yeah, and some of us are realizing that there will be no retirement, we will just have to work until we absolutely can't anymore.
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turk 8 months ago
That's why socialism works in Europe. But in America, we only have socialism for the wealthy and corporations.
Šimon Špaček 8 months ago
In Europe we have something between. The living minimum is "socialistic", anything above is "capitalistic". But what we really struggle with (at least here) is way too much bureaucracy. Americans often think that they have it had, but come here and try to change front door on building older than 50 years. I remember city mayor sitting in pub, drinking his beer and basically crying because he wanted to cut down a tree on village square (basically a big crossroad) and he couldn't. That tree was half-dead, he had a good offers from two companies willing to cut it down, remove it and plant a new tree but he was told no from county, he had to try to save the bloody tree. It was dangerous. Later few guys "vandalized" the tree, there was emergency cutting and everything was good.
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M O'Connell 8 months ago
The stock market only benefits people wealthy enough to have significant investment in it.
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BeesEelsAndPups 8 months ago
Minimum wage in 1970 was only $1.60/hour. But if we had pegged it to "official" inflation at that time, the current minimum wage would be over $13/hour. The current actual federal minimum wage is $7.25. That means the actual minimum wage has been cut in half over the past 60 years.
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Šimon Špaček 8 months ago
I will care about shareholders when I get company stock. I think it is a good motivation, give shares to everyone on their employment anniversary. Motivate people by wealth.
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Roland Nijveld 8 months ago
Reading makes me happy I don't live in the dystopia called the USA. Don't understand there are no protests or riots. People find it apparently normal to have 2 jobs or live in your car. Stand up!!
Nancy Bania 8 months ago
I wish someone could explain to me, in logical term, why any of these is wrong. I just can't understand the the thinking on the right. How can you hate others so much?
Roland Nijveld 8 months ago
Reading makes me happy I don't live in the dystopia called the USA. Don't understand there are no protests or riots. People find it apparently normal to have 2 jobs or live in your car. Stand up!!
Nancy Bania 8 months ago
I wish someone could explain to me, in logical term, why any of these is wrong. I just can't understand the the thinking on the right. How can you hate others so much?
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