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Didn't know that. Ugh.

@the harbinger-Was partially raised by them.

Indeed 🥲

Oh yeah. XD https://tshirtclassic.com/product/fighting-whities-every-things-gonna-be-all-white-shirt/

Though American, I started using First Nations or Indigenous Peoples year ago because it just made more sense to me. But that's what I use for my general; if someone wants to be called something else, they usually just tell me and I'll use that for them. But I also recognize that it doesn't give me leave to call everyone that. Seem complex, not that difficult. Heaven forbid I try to listen to others to make them comfortable.

They were well structured civilizations, peaceful people. It was their land of origin, the natives.

Not necessarily peaceful. Many nation’s lands did overlap and so there were raids etc. Some nations were more “confrontational” than others.

There were (and are) many names, of course, because there are (and were) many languages. According to Robin Wall Kimmerer, the name her people, the Potawatomi, and many others, called it all translate to "turtle island". That comes from her absolutely amazing book, Braiding Sweetgrass."

@Emie N. I prefer to believe people when they tell me what they prefer to be called.

Thank you! I prefer Indian myself, or Native, and indigenous. "Native American" is a PCt erm that in my experience the faux-woke use against us as a bludgeon. Happens to me a lot because I'm white passing, and these people seem to think that since I inherited my dad's skin tone instead of my mom's that I'm not entitled to my own heritage (not to mention my enrollment card!) M

I want you to come to my neck of the woods and tell all the tribes people here that they should stop calling themselves Indians cuz they're not from India. 🤦🏾‍♀️ I'm not from the Caucasus Mountains so I'm no longer a caucasian, according to your logic.

I always hated when I had to pick Caucasian as one of my choices. I have exactly ZERO ancestors from the Caucasus!

I get that. But they missed the mark in trying to compare what they see as apples to apples. Calling a white person a Caucasian is like calling a German shepherd a dog. No s**t I’m Caucasian. That’s a term for white people. If they wanted to use a racial slur against white people they missed the mark badly.

Palefaces would be a better choice

Yeah that one too

*sigh" The joke is that most white people don't decend from people from the Causasus. I'm white and Native. I am NOT Caucasian.

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Go ahead and give us one example of how minorites have less power than whites in the US.

You can’t be serious right

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100% serious. Every single person has the same liberties in the US. Any citizen that's of age and not a felon can vote and/or run for office. Virtually anyone can better their education and has the same career opportunities. The only thing limiting people is their own drive and effort, or lack there of.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/racial-inequality-in-the-united-states https://www.americanprogress.org/article/systematic-inequality-american-democracy/ https://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/minorities https://www.hrw.org/report/2022/08/08/racial-discrimination-united-states/human-rights-watch/aclu-joint-submission

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Lol. Did you even read those articles? I did, not a single one gave an example of minorities having less power than white people. They all just listed old laws and policies that haven't existed in decades. Banks lending less money to poor people is not racist. Businesses hiring less people without education is not racist. In fact, the only current policies that would be bias against a specific race would be affirmative action, which causes people to have a better or worse chance of being hired because of their skin color. And lets not forget about minorities getting more scholarship opportunities than white people. So I'll ask you again, give me one CURRENT example of how minorites have less power than the majority. You cant, because they dont.

born and raised in the area, and believe me, caucasian has never, ever, ever been used here for white. my parents are of kurdish and armenian descent. we aint white.

Meant to or not, they literally are simply erasing all mainstream cultural references to Native Americans. Like Land O'Lakes Butter got rid of the "Indian," but kept the land. Little kids used to LOVE to pretend to be "Indians." But little kids used to think of "Indians" as brave warriors, nature-loving hunters, efficient craftsmen, wise men, etc. Was it culturally accurate? Well, it was child's play. But now, with the focus on realism, they think of Native Americans as casino owners, economic victims, addicts, etc. Is that an improvement?

@Bruno, a mascot or English-language place name is not the only way to acknowledge someone's identity. One can also attend celebrations, support businesses, do research about their history and culture, etc. For individuals, treat them like... individuals. Example: someone different from yourself is walking their dog. No need to launch into a speech or interview them, but it's fine to ask "Is your dog friendly?"

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Title of a Freddy's Nightmares episode.

I see that now. Did not realize the circle around the face was part of the whole thing.

Sounds more you're the bigot.

I pointed out a real fact? You called me a bigot for that? You're just a low-life fucktard piece of s**t?

You're dumb enough to believe political correctness and being "woke" are what made them offensive, as opposed to...I dunno, already being offended by it but no one doing anything about it.

Don't kid yourself. Most people weren't offended until it became fashionable to be.

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Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.

About 90 years, if I recall correctly.

I think different tribes have different opinions.

@ PTJD Different from what? That the color of someone's skin makes them less of a person? Show me one single tribe that treats it as anything other than derogatory.

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/native-american-group-calls-for-washington-commanders-to-reinstate-redskins-name-washington-dc-native-american-guardians-association-racism-name-petition-warriors-braves-on-the-warpath

@PTJD Yeah you should do a bit more research. That group is pure astroturf. Native American Guardians Association (NAGA) is like Black Voices for Trump. Minority faces paid to support people who are actively working against the best interests of their community because they are PAID to do so.

Citation REQUIRED! I really can't stand racist apologism,. Give me one single example @Dave in MD.

https://www.commanders.com/news/native-american-chief-talks-about-redskins-10079234 https://www.dailywire.com/news/native-american-group-threatens-national-boycott-if-washington-football-team-doesnt-change-name-back-to-redskins There are two. What I can't stand are "white knights" that get offended on behalf of people in a group they are not apart of.

Nope sorry @dave in MD. You failed the first time and I'm done with you. Go be racist elsewhere.

No need to feed the magats, Ray.

As someone that hates trump with a passion I hate idiots like you that are just like his supporters and feel that there are only 2 sides, and if you don't kneel down and support every single facat that one side has, you must be on the other side.

Some people won't understand how they offend others until they're faced with the same treatment. But also, it's deeper than that. First Nations people were forced to abandon their homes and culture and then were referred to as a mascot. This is not offensive in comparison to what they went through.

@poison, I distinguish between punching up, punching down, and side swipes. As a white person, I do have advantages, such as: being part of a majority, which gives me privacy about my ancestry; not having to worry about many people seeing me as my ethnicity first and then my individual personality and outlook; not being viewed as suspect and possibly dangerous. The only disadvantage I can think of: some white people make bigoted remarks being they think I'll automatically agree with them. Hence, I'm not at all offended that a person of colour might get fed up with burdens of being stereotyped, proving their worth, etc.

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First off you're wrong in saying you're a majority, we are not. . Second not all whites have advantages unless you're saying white skin is just that. Third you are easily offended, your comment shows that.

@poison ivy : One google search later, the population of the USA is 75.5% WHITE. Now I know racist apologists like you are simple, but 75.5% is greater than 50% so yes, white is the MAJORITY in the USA.

@poison Ivy, race is not the only range or spectrum on which to measure advantages and disadvantages. For example, my being female, prone to depression and older does come with some disadvantages. However, being white does mean one less issue for me to worry about. Ditto for my being being cis and straight.