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Not all people who seem bad are actual monsters. But not all seemingly kind ones are actually kind, either. And unfortunately, there are quite a few of the latter kind out there, praised by people who don’t know any better; or simply don’t know enough about such individuals.
Redditor u/Independent_Sun_592 recently started a discussion about seemingly kind people, asking fellow netizens to name someone who is generally considered a great person but is actually a monster. Redditors had quite a few names prepared, so if you’re interested to see who were the wolves in sheep’s clothing, scroll down to find their answers on the list below.
Below you will also find Bored Panda’s interviews with the OP themselves and two psychology professors, Professor at Stetson University in Florida, Christopher J. Ferguson, and Professor at Georgia Gwinnett College in Georgia, David Ludden, who were kind enough to answer a few of our questions.
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#1
This seems kind of weird as I still don’t understand how anyone can defend them.. but the Kardashians. Everyone thinks they’re “self-made” and have done a lot of charity work, but in reality they are professional scam artists and masters at tax evasion and fraud. There isn’t a good one in the entire bunch.
Wysteria_Rose 1 year ago
I feel so badly for their children. North West was a brand baby from the start, including the fact that they named her North West. Now they're putting her on stages and crying, "Why is everyone being so mean to her?! She's just a child!!" Okay, but you're an adult who put her in that situation knowing what would happen.
Matthew Rasanen 1 year ago
Kim Kardashian was pregnant on Jay Leno, and he said, as a joke (paraphrased), "Why don't you name her North." So they did. That's the origin of her name.
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PeTeH 1 year ago
All i know about them is cosmetic surgery and a sex tape. And the fathers that accually did something.
Diolla 1 year ago (edited)
Same, have been able to avoid their TV show and socials.
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Dre Mosley 1 year ago
I just want society to get past these people. They've been famous long enough. I remember when Kim K was nothing more than some girl that got seen out and about with Paris Hilton(back when Paris was in the spotlight); I'd gladly take Paris back, lol.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
As I scrolled down, I saw the face, looked at it, had no idea who the heck it is. That's how much attention I give that family. I'm glad to not be wasting any energy in their direction.
ElfVibratorGlitter 1 year ago
I feel you. They fall squarely into my "I'm blissfully unaware" category.
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Tiny Dancer 1 year ago
Sure, but is there anyone that actually thinks these people are/were "great" in any way?
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#2
Every Mega Church senior pastor. I like how they constantly ask for donations and charity and then, if there's a disaster in their area, rather than help and donate to the relief fund they bar their doors in case anyone ruins their electric blue carpet.
Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My! 1 year ago
My grandmother gave Oral Roberts $10,000. He gave her a Bible with the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ printed in red, and Oral Roberts' name on the cover, embossed with gold. Other than the embossing, I could have bought the same Bible at Walmart for $7.99.
DC 1 year ago
But, it's not the worst species of religion out there. I'd even say, all in all, it's the most honest variant of christianism, as they don't try to cover up them having a Gulfstream and a Ferrari and a house that has more windows than Bill Gates', but, pretty much, ask their congregation to accept and contribute to their wealth that, obviously, is god's very own wish for them to have. After all, this may even, somewhattedly, be the core and reason for any and every religion including their gods, to have been invented in order to amass wealth and control.
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Lil Miss Hobbit 1 year ago
I am a Christian, and these pastors absolutely disgust me. This is NOT the example Jesus set.
Rayne OfSalt 1 year ago
Aside from their cultist followers, does anyone, anywhere think any of those american megachurc w-anchors are good people?
LGBTQpanda 1 year ago
Tupac said it: Why does "god" need a huge church to talk to us? If they take all the money from the people who preach about god and give it to the people who need god, we would be alright.
keyboardtek 1 year ago
I used to repair Hammond organs. There are very old instruments that require yearly service. Many churches would wait years to get the organ serviced so by that point there were so many things broken that the repair would be in the hundreds. They would often complain about the cost and not get the organ 100% repaired. Then as I left I would drive by the pastor's Lexus. His car payment is apparently their priority.
#3
Tom Cruise gives millions to an aggressive cult that destroys families.
The Doom Song 1 year ago
I had a friend in high school whose family was way into Scientology. What red flagged for me were the "private lessons" she had with her mums boyfriend. I was like 12-13 at the time I wish I'd spoken up coz it never sit right with me
Ephemera Image 1 year ago
I never understood the attraction. He's just creepy now, and even in his early movies I found him 'meh'. Not even good looking, and a boring 'get my good side' actor.
iseefractals 1 year ago
All religions are culty to some greater or lesser extent, and most religions destroy families. It's like arguing about which poison tastes the best.
In a recent interview with Bored Panda, the OP shared that it was their interest in history that encouraged them to ask this particular question. “I was reading and studying a lot on Julius Caesar and a lot of historians and history buffs consider him a great figure of history. However, to the Gauls, which is now modern France, he would be considered a monster as he killed or enslaved 1 million of them in his conquest of Gaul.”
In addition to revealing what made them think about people who are praised by some, but despised by others, the redditor also admitted being very surprised by the amount of netizens who engaged in the thread.
#4
Oprah Winfrey. She has platformed so many terrible humans, scam artists, and snake oil salesmen it’s unbelievable.
iseefractals 1 year ago
Don't forget Jenny McCarthy, who re-ignited the anti-vaxxer b******t. "if oprah had her on...there must be something to it!" Disgusting
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Papa 1 year ago
Don't forget her public service announcements asking people to donate to help victims of the Hawaii fires. Billionaires asking ordinary people to do charitable works rubs me the wrong way. She could probably replace every house that burned and still have plenty of money.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
This. When celebrities make pleas for money for whatever charity or cause, I just gotta wonder how much they themselves are contributing. They are just doing it to stay in the public eye. Oh, and to look good.
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iseefractals 1 year ago
I've loathed that woman since i was a child. Dr.Oz, Dr.Phil, Jenny McCarthy, the endless parade of fad diets, pseudo medical/health products....all of it propped up by a legion of the kind of people that watch day time talk shows, who praise every little thing she says and does. So much evidence to her being trash, but i really would have hoped after the Ellen fallout that people would take a closer look at Oprah...but of course that's never going to happen....
Grenelda Thurber 1 year ago
I think she just has too much power. A wave of her hand and someone's book heads to the top of the bestsellers list. A few appearances on her show and Dr. Phil has his own show. Giving Jennie McCarthy the time of day. Agh. People believe anything she says.
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Tiny Dancer 1 year ago
Never been a big fan. This latest nonsense where she held onto her position with Weight Watchers long after she started losing weight with Ozempic was the final straw for me. It's all about money. No scruples, no conscience, no care for your fellow humans. And would her and Gayle just fess up and get married or something? Steadman must be the best paid beard in history.
I just work here 1 year ago
For me it was more that she said ozempic was cheating and an easy way out and then she uses it. And if ww works so great, why did she need ozempic?
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Pittsburgh rare 1 year ago
Best PR for Megan Markle. That wasn't an interview, that was a massage
Rodney Boathand 1 year ago
I think thqt she is pro black to the point of being racist againstcaucasions. I saw how uneducated. One day a black person from Halifax, Nova Scotia pointed out in the audience and she blurted out that she didn't know that there are coloured people in Canada. I was flabbergasted.
Ellie Ahmed 1 year ago (edited)
I went off her the time she had an African woman on her show who was from a cultural group where the beauty standard demands women be overweight and developing girls were often literally force-fed large amounts of food, to the point of vomiting, to achieve that. This clearly well educated woman was trying to explain to Oprah how it's a cultural problem that results in trauma to these girls, but Oprah kept interrupting every five frigging seconds to act like this was the best f*****g news she's ever heard, going "your culture sounds amazing, there's a place for me, yay!" and treating the entire thing as a joke. She did not even once acknowledge or legitimise this woman's genuine concerns, which by the way were partially based on her own trauma of being a victim of this practice. I have never seen an interviewer be so blatantly and obnoxiously self-centred to the detriment of her guest as in that clip.
#5
Steve Jobs was a deadbeat dad, a spoiled child masquerading as an adult, a slave labor monster, and a borderline idiot.
Dre Mosley 1 year ago (edited)
The Steve Jobs worship from Apple fans has always baffled me. The guy was an a**hole.
Bexxxx 1 year ago
And not nearly as smart as he seemed. I listened to a 4-part podcast about how much he sucked recently (Behind The Bastards!) and it was hilarious. The fruit thing alone was pretty unintelligent.
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rorschach-penguin 1 year ago
He killed himself, too. He had the only form of pancreatic cancer that has a good survival rate, and he did a juice cleanse and saw a psychic instead.
Eduardo Kraszczuk 1 year ago
I was so disgusted when I read that biography in the photo that I stopped midway. Never finished it and don't intend to.
christie lowe 1 year ago
This guy was an absolute creep. The world became a better place when he left
“I think Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great come to mind when thinking of an ancient figure, as they were the reasons for many deaths and enslavement of their time,” the OP pointed out, providing names for who they think are considered great but are actually monsters.
“But I also think you have to look at it in the perspective of the time and in those times would he have been considered great, or a monster. I think the longer you go back in time and look at these historical figures, the more you see their greatness as opposed to their negatives,” they added.
#6
I'm glad Doctor Phil is finally getting his comeuppance. He's said and done terrible things to people who needed real help for the sake of viewership and acts like he cares so much. Well it's obvious he doesn't.
Der Kommissar 1 year ago
supports? hell, he just interviewed Trump with lots of softball questions. Afterwards, he said he tried to talk Donnie into not seeking revenge. Good luck with that.
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Susan Teter 1 year ago
Never trust a relationship counselor who cheated on his wife and married his mistress
Dre Mosley 1 year ago
We can thank Oprah for making quacks like Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz mainstream.
GrowingThruConcrete 1 year ago
Plus he totally looks like that Sesame Street waiter Grover was always pissing off
Lunar Stormwing 1 year ago
He has openly stated that he doesn't believe that couples where one is disabled could ever have a 'healthy' relationship.
EmAdoresHerKats🇮🇪🇩🇿🇵🇸 1 year ago
Seriously? Did he really say that? That's just disgusting and so untrue
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Dirk Daring 1 year ago
He foisted the "cash me ousside" girl on us. That alone makes him one of history's greatest monsters.
StrangeOne 1 year ago
I hate him so much. There was a family that was on the show. The husband was cheating on his wife and bringing his mistress around the kids. The kids were getting confused and worried. The mom was trying to handle it best she could and try to answer her kid's questions. Dr. Phil point blank told her that was inappropriate of the mom to say anything and told her flat out "You shut your mouth." repeatedly. The mom kept asking what she was supposed to do. All he would say is "shut your mouth". Sounds like Dr. Phil believes in the "bro code".
#7
Charles Taze Russell, founder of the Jehovah's Witness. I grew up in that cult and so many people I knew died from not getting blood transfusions.
Jerome Lenovo 1 year ago
My mom became one of them. I can't talk to her anymore, she always tries to turn me into one of them. I hate these guys.
Ablaza Blue 1 year ago
I am so sorry you've lost your mom. My mom deliberately left me home alone with my grandfather when I was three. He was a known, to family & police, pedophile. Her fear was that he'd offend with someone else's child and she would be found out. She assumed I wouldn't remember. I'm 67 and remember it like yesterday. My mom died believing she was going to heaven. I would have loved to see the shocked look when she ended up in Dante's hell.
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Jules 1 year ago
We had some knock on our door once. I had a VERY interesting - and short- conversation with them about the fact that they ate meat. Which has blood in.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
LOL!!! If I ever come across a JW in the future, instead of dismissing them immediately, I will ask the meat question!
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Upstaged75 1 year ago
Lots of cult religions do that. The Amish and Mennonites will shun people too.
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nm (he/him) 1 year ago
Who ever asked the children of the World if they want to join the religion of their parents?
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Alpha_Snail 1 year ago
I know a JW and he’s one of my best friends. He’s nice and doesn’t force it on others or talk about it. He just doesn’t accept gifts.
keyboardtek 1 year ago
They are like Scientologists in that they are prohibited from associating with people outside the cult.
Tim Crasborn 1 year ago
How many people can you know who need blood transfusions? I agree with the sentiment but curious about that statement
Wim Cossement 1 year ago
Well me too, I also grew up in them but never knew and still don't really know anyone that needed a blood transfusion, 26 years later. It's also not all bad news because some progress has been made and techniques have been developed or perfected, so some operations don't really need any blood any more and I see this as a win because the problem with blood is it's limited shelf-life and the fact that it's quite costly.
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Libstak 1 year ago
My dads family are/were JW, mums side, catholic. We tried the JW thing and went nope, dad wanted nothing more to do with them and i was sent to catholic private schools. Family didn't disown us, they are aĺ half a world away anyway but when we visited they were welcoming for the most part.
Keith Lancaster 1 year ago
My Mum was one and I was made to go to meetings when I was a child. By the age of about ten I knew I was Gay. They told a group of children (including me) that got hates homosexuals. I refused to go ever again.
#8
Christopher Columbus.
Quick reminder, the imperialist and slave-holding nation of Spain sent him to prison once he got back from the new world because his monstrous brutality towards his slaves was too much even for them.
Wintermute 1 year ago
Younger generations may, but for those of us who went to school in the 90s and before, there's still a resistance to the idea that he wasn't the intrepid hero that colonial history made him out to be.
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Rayne OfSalt 1 year ago
fun fact: Christopher Columbus is responsible for introducing syphilis to europe on his return from america. however, the people from america didn't have syphilis either at that point. in fact, prior to his/his crew's introduction of the illness to europe, the only creature on the planet that carried syphilis was the llama.
Becky Samuel 1 year ago
This is a very skewed and somewhat untrue version of events. The 'Christopher Columbus' theory of syphilis is one of several theories, none of which are conclusive. Syphilitic scarring on bones from the Americas has been found on human bones dated at thousands of years old.
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Michael Wlodarczyk 1 year ago
Not to mention the fact that he never set foot in America, and some people STILL to this day say he discovered it.
Guigsy Gwiggins 1 year ago
I don’t really get why people say he discovered it when it was already full of people. Same goes for Australia. It’s a very euro-centric mindset. We were the only ones to really be recording history, doesn’t mean there was never visual or contact by other humans before. This is b******t
Load More Replies... Vix Spiderthrust 1 year ago (edited)
Also he was just a dickh*ad. He didn't discover America, he fell over it while trying to get to China.
iseefractals 1 year ago
Not really. Colonists complained of "mismanagement" and brutality....towards the colonists. Not the slaves. Columbus and a few of his men were jailed while an investigation was conducted, once completed they were released....after 6 weeks. By King Ferdinand. Columbus was a product of his time, and his behavior reflects the standards of that time. You don't get to judge history by the standards of the present....to do so is to dismiss all the progress that has been made.
Bec 1 year ago
We don't need to celebrate him now. His treatment of indigenous people was abhorrent. He wrote in his journals that prepubescent girls were the most valued item for trade among his men. They cut off workers hands and made them wear their own hands around their necks if they didn't bring enough gold.
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Skywitness 1 year ago
And for all those evil things he did, he still thought the Americas were Asia until his dying day.
Chickens are fluffy 1 year ago
Song was catchy tho, sadly wish it was for a better person " in 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue..."
Curry on... 1 year ago
Not to mention the millions of indigenous people whose lost their lives because of him.
Talking about liking certain people, especially on a superficial level, Prof. Christopher J. Ferguson pointed out that we generally judge people by how they present themselves and, ultimately, how charming they are (which might not work with historical figures, as they can’t alter the way they present themselves anymore). And for the most part, that seems to work out fine, as—although we all engage in some "positive image management"—most people's outward personalities are reasonably representative of who they are.
However, according to the expert, some folks learn to game that system and purposefully present themselves in ways that will be attractive to others that don't necessarily represent who they truly are. “This may include insincere flattery, learning to be interesting and ‘cool’ or presenting oneself as a moral crusader,” he said.
#9
Blows my mind that a good number of Americans still praise Ronald Reagan. He was a gd monster. He dismantled the mental health care system in California when he was governor and that had direct impacts on the growing homeless population.
DC 1 year ago
That ... Trickle down ... arming some religious nutcases in the middle east because "every enemy of the USSR is our friend", which ... well, they're worse. The USSR's heads, after Stalin at least, shared some basic rationality. Chrushtshow should have remained in power another few years, ... anyway, as for Ronny, I totally agree. He wasn't even dumb - often claimed - he was downright insane, way above Nixon in that regard, just a less showing, less obvious trade thereof. Even more dangerous? Obviously so, but only after the aftermath is archived already.......
Cool crow 1 year ago
I believe during his last years as president, he was suffering from Alzheimer's, or dementia. I remember his wife did some prompting for him when speaking. It would have been better for him and his country had he retired early.
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Marno C. 1 year ago
Conspiring with terrorists to keep American hostages longer because releasing them while Jimmy Carter was in office would have affected the election. Absolutely treasonous.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
yeah, screwing Carter out of a second term like that was just unforgivable. Jimmy Carter went on to do so much good after leaving the White House. Carter did so much good while still in the white house. Put solar panels on the roof of white house, which reagan took down right away.
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Reaganomics has destroyed a few Western economies and contributed to creating a super-wealthy class who don't give a s**t about the rest of us.
Rob D 1 year ago
I mark his presidency as the beginning of the end of a somewhat functional republican party. And seeing things now, the beginning of the end for America; we'll see this November if Trump finishes the job. But this has been a 50 year effort by Christian conservatives to ruin this country (if WE cant have it NO ONE can!) and it started with Reagan.
Brocken Blue 1 year ago
I hate how true every single word of this is… we’re being poisoned from within by religious conservatism’s political marriage to the protectors of corporate greed.
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Dre Mosley 1 year ago (edited)
The guy didn't even mention AIDS until his second term. . .by then it had been an issue for like four or five years. He didn't seem to care until his buddy Rock Hudson died from it.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
Him purposefully ignoring the AIDS crisis caused so much pain and heartbreak. And then you had Trump denying s**t too, Learned from the master.
Load More Replies... PFD 1 year ago
I was flabbergasted at the hagiographies when he died. He was a proper villain figure to me and those around me and the butt of so many jokes about his intelligence (especially in comedy shows such as Not the Nine O'Clock News). Obviously I knew that many on the right liked his *politics*, but I'd had literally no idea that a good chunk of Americans thought he was one of the greatest statesmen ever. It was quite an eye-opener.
Vix Spiderthrust 1 year ago
"The history of the American people has been a great quest for...tolerance...equality...harmony...cupcakes...crumbly candy bars...it's incredible, isn't it...that a cretin such as this...could become President of the United States of America."
Load More Replies... nottheactualphoto 1 year ago
Not to mention the union busting. Not to mention cutting funds for schools. Not to mention ushering in the era of large-scale deficit spending.
Michael Fernandez 1 year ago
His idiotic tax breaks ended several decades of progressive tax policies, plunged the country into debt, heightened income inequality and arguably started the death of the middle class. And of course, he was a race-baiting anti-LGBT faux Christian gun nut who committed crimes to steal the presidency and then continued to commit crimes while in office.
#10
Chris Brown. His fame is particularly disturbing to me because over the years since his attacks on Rihanna, he has been involved in numerous altercations, charged with multiple counts of abuse, holding women hostage, sexual assault and armed standoffs with the police. It’s clear he has not evolved or matured as a person and presents a significant threat to many people. The fact he still gets support and is collaborating with artists is very disheartening.
I’m in favour of allowing grace for those who have mended their ways, but this individual has not stopped hurting and endangering people, almost exclusively women and the fact he’s still seen as a sought after artist is confusing to me.
BTDubs 1 year ago
It's disgusting how he's still winning awards and artists are still willing to collaborate with him. He should've been dropped by the industry long ago.
Michael Wlodarczyk 1 year ago
Just goes to show that if you have money you can buy your way out of any kind of trouble.
BigCityLady 1 year ago
Why is he not in jail?? His behaviour over the years has been disgusting and unacceptable. This man should be shut off from society as well as the music Industry and everyone should STOP working with him they are just as compliant as Brown.
Squiffle Noses 1 year ago
Why, in a world where Donald Trump might be re-elected - can you possibly think that TURDS will be flushed instead of venerated? The whole country is fundamentally broken. I don't see a solution, but rich intelligent women could leave? Hey! Rich, Intelligent women - are you listening!? I guess not.
Debra Harold 1 year ago
I'm listening. And agreeing. Unfortunately I'm not rich...
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Ray LeBlanc 1 year ago
It shouldn't be confusing that he still has followers...remember Trump ?
StrangeOne 1 year ago
I try very hard to separate art from the person who created it. I'll listen to that one song I like. But in no way am I going to buy his albums nor care about him as a person.
#11
Personnel in HR Department. They’re not there for you. Don’t bother to report anything or it will backfire on you.
Javelina Poppers 1 year ago (edited)
Got laid off after 30 years because the company wanted to offshore. When HR handed me my notice the lady smiled at me and said, "So are you going to cry now?" She was just one of a long list of total d-bags that occupied that office.
Donald 1 year ago
If only we lived in a different society where you could've throat chopped that HR employee and said, "No, but are you going to cry now?"
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Michael Largey 1 year ago
HR exists to protect HR and only then the company.
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Daniel Marsh 1 year ago
BAD ADVICE. HR Department are NOT your friends. They work for the corporation, not you. They are, however, tasked with keeping a motivated, productive workforce, and that means making sure management doesn't abuse the workforce or drive good workers away. And they are tasked with preventing the business from getting embroiled in regulatory actions or lawsuits. Further, being the first to report and characterize any event to HR lends you credibility, and makes the company look really bad to any regulators or jurors.
Lyoness 1 year ago
In theory this is great, kind of like communism. I worked in HR for 20+ years and I can tell you in all honesty not a single person I worked with put the employees first. It's a business and that's who you work for, so that's what you protect, not the people. Damage control is always about how the company is affected, not the people involved. We once had a child SA'd in one of our stores and I was called into my VP's office, not to talk about how to support the employees who were traumatised by the event or how to support the child, but to manage whether the news got out or if other stores had heard, and how to make sure the kid's family kept quiet. Aka how it affected the company. I saw this kind of thing over and over again. They say they're there for the employees because they're supposed to. Hell, they may even believe it, but it's just not how things are.
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Son of Philosoraptor 1 year ago
Seen it myself. Boss wanted me to have my crew break the regulations as a favor to the client. I got so stressed I yelled eff you to him. My complaint went nowhere but I got written up for what i did. Learned my lesson.
Eric Brown 1 year ago
As I always like to say, any organization that views humans as a "resource" does not have your best interest in mind.
Lorraine R 1 year ago
Yeah, one thought things were changing when "Human Resources" replaced "Personnel", but that was just what they wanted you to think.
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They protect the company, not you, and they protect the company from you.
“In recent years, as victimhood has gained currency, presenting oneself as a ‘victim’ may also be a viable strategy for some [people],” Prof. Ferguson continued. “Such people may present leadership qualities without having the internal substance to back them up and their true purpose is less to guide others towards doing something useful as opposed to lining their own pockets.“
#12
Mufuggin Gandhi.
When Gandhi's wife was stricken with pneumonia, British doctors told her husband that a shot of penicillin would heal her; nevertheless, Gandhi refused to have alien medicine injected into her body, and she died.
Soon after, Gandhi caught malaria and, relenting from the standard he applied to his wife, allowed doctors to save his life with quinine. He also allowed British doctors to perform an appendectomy on him, an alien operation if ever there was one.
Also he served on the British side in South Africa and earned a medal for valor.
Mab 1 year ago
He was also a creeper. He brought profound good into the world and was a deeply flawed human being
ExRoot 1 year ago
This is similar to mother Teresa. The hospital she set up for People with cancers were not given any pain medication at all. She believed that pain and suffering brought you closer to God. Also these people were not Catholics or Christian but they were baptized against their will or without their knowledge before death. She was literally just snatching souls for her God. Yet when she needed back surgery she came to the US. This is very controversial with many people and why they feel she should not be considered a saint.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
yeah, mother teresa loved to see people suffer. It just made her look good. "oh, look what this little woman is doing to help poor people" Dammit she created more poor people, just by being so against birth control.
Load More Replies... PunnyPanda 1 year ago
He would sleep naked next to his preteen nieces to 'prove his sexual self control' or some sh*t. No concern for how these young girls experienced that, of course.
Michael None 1 year ago
What you are referring to is a Hindu principle known as Brahmacharya which is a virtue in Hinduism. I'm not sure if practitioners of it usually test themselves or not. One belief Ghandi had was that to achieve Brahmacharya a person had to be free from all feelings of arousal. The "test" you are referring to was a religious test of pious self control. Just cause it's not normal to us doesn't mean it wasn't an innocent religious test to a man that live in a totally foreign land with a totally foreign religion almost a hundred years ago. It's not something we would condone today or that I know to be or not to be normal for the place and time period, I just prefer not to rush to judge others for things I don't understand.
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Pittsburgh rare 1 year ago (edited)
We're not talking about his open support to Hitler, and how he wrote that the blacks were an inferior race? I see someone has already covered the "sleeping naked with children" (so much an English newspaper started a crowdfunding to get the poor man some blankets so he didn't have to use the bodies of girls to warm himself up). But we STILL celebrate Peace Day to commemorate him.
Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo 1 year ago
Gandhi did not openly support Hitler, thats a myth. He wrote him letters calling him "Friend" because he was asking him to change his policies and was being concillatory, not because Hitler was his friend. He did write racist things against Africans when he was young, and then later in life promoted racial equality.
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Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo 1 year ago (edited)
Two of his grandnieces. Still gross, but worth clarifying
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Ross “Sarcastic Dad” 1 year ago
And to top it off, "Mr.Non-Violent-No-Matter-What" abused his wife physically.
Siddhesh B 1 year ago
No he was not, yes he slept with his nieces which he told in his autobiography "My Experiments with Truth" to test himself (which is gross act). Doesn't proves that he is pedo.
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Manana Man 1 year ago
The only reference for these claims seems to be the Harvard Crimson - not exactly a reliable source. Other sources including wikipedia say that she suffered two heart attacks and wanted traditional doctors. Her son ordered penicillin. The doctors didn't want to use it because it would not be helpful to the kidney failure that was progressing. Hardly the way it is characterized above.
#13
President Andrew Jackson trail of tears, why is he on the 20 dollar bill
Ross Shaw 1 year ago
As a child, his neighbors in the Carolinas commented on how much he and his widowed mother hated Indians. That's like a vegan saying of someone, "Wow, they REALLY don't like meat!"
Me Oh My (He/They) 1 year ago
Speaking as someone in the Carolinas, we don't claim him.
Load More Replies... Lil Miss Hobbit 1 year ago
I never got why he's on the $20. Yes, he was a president so we honor him as such but not every president gets to be on money. I'd love for the national reserve to replace him.
michael Chock 1 year ago
This needs to be higher. He put a federal bounty on the literal scalps of native Americans. If you turned in the top half of a person's head, the government would pay you the equivalent of $10.00
Jess Smith 1 year ago (edited)
The all-white-male supreme court ruled against him for the trail of tears. He continued. But then he lost the election, despite winning the popular vote. (Popular vote among those who could vote, when over half the population can't vote it's not really a 'popular' vote) And you know what this man - who had a decent claim to having won the election and who had flagrantly violated the law before - did? He conceded. And now about half the US population wishes to elect someone who fails to hold even THAT shockingly low standard. edit: clarifying that over half the population at the time could not vote, and thus "popular vote" is somewhat misleading, since I don't think anyone bothered checking if women would have voted for him or his opponent.
Michael Largey 1 year ago (edited)
All the bad things being said here about Jackson are quite true and important. What did he do to gain the honor he was once held in? He was an accomplished military leader. He squelched a near-secessionist movement led by his own vice president. He greatly increased the role and influence of the average citizen (male white citizen) in the country's political process. Until recently, all or most of the bad things about him were ignored because many Americans of his time and later weren't much better.
Elladine DesIsles 1 year ago
Speaking as one of Jackson's closest living relatives - 1st cousin 8x removed, or technically 1/2 1st cousins since his father and my ancestor were half brothers; neither Jackson nor his brothers had direct descendants), I completely agree, and support the dismantling of monuments to him (though I can't vote toward that goal, as I am not American; my grandfather was). I am proud to add that my branch of the Jackson family were not slaveholders, but rather abolitionists.
Stephanie Trump 1 year ago
He was also against paper money, so it’s really weird he’s on the $20.
#14
Pablo Picasso was an unrelenting bastard to his romantic partners. He once said "for me there are two kinds of women: goddesses and doormats." And his granddaughter described his treatment of the women in his life by saying: "He submitted them to his animal sexuality, tamed them, bewitched them, ingested them, and crushed them onto his canvas. After he had spent many nights extracting their essence, once they were bled dry, he would dispose of them."
And that wasn't hyperbole, two of Picasso's partners suffered nervous breakdowns due to his emotional abuse. Worse yet his lover Marie-Thèrése Walter and his second wife Jacqueline Roque were driven to [self-harm].
October 1 year ago (edited)
BP censorship strikes again. "Self harm"? Did they intentionally step on lego? No, they kïlled themselves!
Rafael 1 year ago
I wonder if this silly dancing around isn't even more triggering to the affected people...
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DC 1 year ago
Also, he claimed that he had wanted to be a bull fighter, but wasn't "brave" enough. Brave? Kill an animal that you can outsmart, outmove and pick another spear into, again and again? Always thought that requires being an AH, but no bravery whatsoever.
Nika the Great 1 year ago
Ugh. Another famous person I thought didn’t suck. Why do they all suck???
Anyone-for-tea? 1 year ago
Also I don’t know if he is included further down, but I am no longer interested in any of the art of Paul Gaugin now I know he abused under age girls in Haiti.
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Whether a person tends to focus more on the negative or the positive aspects of someone else’s personality or behavior depends a lot on the context, Prof. Ferguson said; on whether or not the person is primed to be open-minded or suspicious in a particular context.
“For instance, a door-to-door salesperson might prime suspiciousness in a lot of people,” he pointed out. “But, particularly for Americans, our culture is to assume positives of those we meet in casual, non-threatening situations (which may differ from some European cultures).
“Thus we may give people we meet the ‘benefit of the doubt’ and be more easily taken in by charm,” the professor continued, adding that once attitudes form, they can be resistant to change so people may be hesitant to believe the worst of someone they just formed a positive opinion of.
#15
Mark Wahlberg. More recently, he's been claiming that Hollywood is persecuting him for being a Christian, which is why he's decided to move his kids to Nevada. It's pretty ironic for the guy who threw rocks at Black children and beat up Vietnamese people wants to talk about being unfairly targeted.
DrBronxx 1 year ago
Am I missing something? He's persecuted for being Christian, so the logical thing is to move his kids to.....Nevada?
Manny 1 year ago
He moved to Nevada for the cheaper taxes than California
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iseefractals 1 year ago
Those instances happened 36 years ago, when he was 16 years old. Yes, it was a terrible thing to do....but everyone needs to take a good hard look at the $hit they did as kids. Are you the same person today that you were when you were 16? Should you have the dumbest most ignorant thought or action from your childhood held over your head for the rest of your life? FFS....People paint 25 year old women as children when they're dating older men, but a 16 year old male is meant to be considered a fully formed adult?
Ephemera Image 1 year ago
You may not believe this, but some of us were actually decent human beings even at sixteen. So yes, that counts. There are very few extenuating circumstances even at that age.
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Rayne OfSalt 1 year ago
Marky Mark is a violent, racist, bigoted sh*theel. Amazingly, his brother Donnie is the complete opposite.
Jerome Lenovo 1 year ago
i guess his career is in the low, so he's trying to cash in the trending theocratic fascism and the victimization technique.
Shoe 1 year ago
He also said that if he'd been on one of the planes on 9/11 the hijacking would have never happened. And on a lesser note, he left the Super Bowl at halftime when his beloved Patriots were behind 28-3. Of course they came back and won. Have I mentioned that Wahlburgers is not good?
#16
Caitlyn Jenner. During the time she was getting person of the year, she killed someone, and was praised for it.
Marno C. 1 year ago
"Civil Rights for me but not for thee." She is against so many LGBTQ+ issues. Still remember her defense of 'traditional marriage' Because, of course, that clan is such a great exemplar of holy matrimony?
Roan The Demon Kitty 1 year ago
I think it's funny how she seems to forget she is lgbt, she's not in a traditional marriage, and maga hates trans people. but honestly, i think most of what she does/says is a desperate cry of "pay attention to me"
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SlightlyTarnished 1 year ago
Whatever your feeling on Caitlyn Jenner, she was never praised for killing someone.
Upstaged75 1 year ago
And yet she's against anything "woke". Um honey, being transgender is pretty high on the scale...
Game Guy 1 year ago
Which is great, because if it weren't for "woke" she'd be mad because we'd all still be calling her Bruce.
Load More Replies... I just work here 1 year ago
I would never normally dead name somebody, but Bruce also went on Ellen after transitioning and told her homosexuality was a sin. What phucker? That's a sin, but not what you did? Also very republican, pro taking away everyone else's rights. Total trash bag of a person.
Lyoness 1 year ago
For the people doing the "he not she" c**p, get over it. Trans women are women, trans men are men. Their gender identity is NOYFB. Deal with it.
Debra Robinson 1 year ago (edited)
Yes, even chromosomes don't matter and yes, cis het female here. So??? To haters/ whiny picky bitçh asshóles.
Load More Replies... Manana Man 1 year ago
It was a four car pileup in Malibu in 2015. I don't know where the 'praise' claim comes from. She was not charged with a crime. What is it with this thread? Seems to be a bunch of exaggerated or sensationalized c**p.
kissmychakram 1 year ago
"killed someone" suggests a deliberate act, which it wasn't (if, indeed, she was actually responsible for the accidental death) and she most certainly was not praised for it. This is a lie.
Rayne OfSalt 1 year ago
She killed someone while deliberately driving high off her face on d***s. She was indeed responsible for killing that person. And yes, she has been praised by reich-wingers for getting away with it.
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#17
Lame answer, but my mother. She is known by a lot of people in town because she’s a teacher and is part of the theater scene, and people love her. Little do they know that behind closed doors she abuses the s**t out of her children. I ran away when I was 17 because I couldn’t take it, and despite giving the police a s**t ton of proof of what was happening, they couldn’t believe that she was capable of any of that and forced me to go back. Even after kicking me out a few months later while I was still a minor, almost no one thought she did anything wrong. The nicest people hide the darkest s**t
ETA okay this was not what I was expecting. I’m reading all of your comments, and wow. I am so sorry that so many of us have dealt with this. I promise you it does get better over time
As for me, I am doing better. The 11th is three years since cutting her off, and while my life is still really hard, it’s the happiest I’ve ever been.
Annabelle 1 year ago
My ex and my mother, who are quite similar, I finally realized. Both are no longer in my life.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
Yeah, it is hard for me to look at people who are "pillars of the community" or "admired by all" and trust them. I grew up with those people and was also abused.
Kari Panda 1 year ago
Ah yes. Been there, done that :') I hope everyone who deals with this will find a way to break free and live their life in peace.
Sky Render 1 year ago
Sounds like my old man. Could charm the feathers off a pigeon, was an absolute demon to his family. His history includes mental, emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, as well as attempted murder via arson. The only comeuppance he got was that he's living alone in an RV for the rest of his life as his family as a whole has (rightly) cut him off.
UpupaEpops 1 year ago
I'm so sorry about that but that expression about pigeons. 😚🤌🏻 I'm stealing it for my vocabulary.
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Amy Manzanares 1 year ago
Same here. My mother is a pillar of the community, a well respected wife and doting mother to my siblings. Behind the scenes she is a manipulative narcissist who made me the villain of her story and played on my fears in attempt to control me. Her love for me is conditional.
ribbit 1 year ago
definitely not what i was expecting, but i'm sorry for what you've gone through. i've been through similar things before, but not in a community where everyone loved my mother- she was always kind of a homebody who kept to herself. i'm so glad you've been able to cut her out of your life and grow as a person, i know that must have been scary.
In an interview with Bored Panda, another psychology expert, Dr. David Ludden, seconded the idea that shaking a first impression is difficult. “People quickly size up a person they've just met and decide on a quick, intuitive level that this new acquaintance is either good or bad. Once that assessment has been made, people interpret new information about that person in a way that is consistent with their first impression. It can be really hard to change someone's opinion about you after your first meeting with them. That's why first impressions are so important.”
#18
Ellen DeGeneres. She opened up about how she hated the TV personality outside of the show and hated being around fans who would stop her to do something silly.
Ephemera Image 1 year ago (edited)
I never got how she was funny? Every snippet I ever saw was of her humiliating someone - in a cutesy 'joking' way of course. I found that repulsive. Even the stars she had on her show were forced to humiliate themselves. A real b***h.
Rayne OfSalt 1 year ago
She was a stand-up comedian in the 80s, and was genuinely funny at the time.
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LGBTQpanda 1 year ago
It was terrible when she tried to get Mariah C to admit to pregnancy by asking her to toast with alcohol. If she didn't, she was basically admitting on the talk show and Ellen thought it was funny. Carey miscarried shortly after the interview.
Madam Puddyfoot 1 year ago
I was shocked at how she thought it was funny to scare the daylights out of people on the show. Not funny.
I just work here 1 year ago
Hated that. My dad traumatized us as kids with that. Got some sick joy out of it.
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GalleryCoronado 1 year ago
I always thought of her as mean. She would torture audience/contestants in the water dunking and other antics and would smile with glee. I read she was rough on Anne Heche. I didn't think she was fumny either.
#19
Brett Favre. People finally figured it out after the welfare thing but he's always been scum. I went to USM (his alma mater) as well as my parents who were there at the same time he was, and every story I heard from locals about him was about him blowing off charity events that he was paid for and smacking his girlfriend in public back in his college days. Apparently he used to get his a*s beat by the locals when they'd see it but he was well into his NFL career before that stopped happening publicly. The man is a menace but people hear that South Mississippi accent and assume he's a nice guy.
Also, just because I feel like there aren't enough people saying it, f**k Michael Vick and anyone who still let's him have any kind of public life.
Jude Laskowski 1 year ago
He should have been put in a pit with hungry alligators or Komodo dragons.
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SlothyK8 1 year ago
This needs to be higher. Brett Favre is horrible...and I say that as a devout Green Bay Packers. fan. He is disgusting.
KatZen 1 year ago
So is Aaron Rodgers. I have nothing against the Packers and I love Packer fans. Best NFL fanbase, in my book. But what's the deal with your QBs?
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Julia Cargile 1 year ago (edited)
How do you steal from a charity, Brett? I knew I was done with the NFL when they allowed that dog butcher, Vick, to play, again.
Donald 1 year ago
Favre is, Vick is not. One beats women, was a legendary pill addict, and blows off charity events. One ran a dog fighting organization, got 23 months in prison and for some reason, has a commentating job for the NFL. There are rancid humans on both sides.
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Grenelda Thurber 1 year ago
Ugh, I can tell from experience that a South Mississippi accent doesn't indicate someone is a nice guy. That accent makes my skin crawl.
#20
Barbara Walters her interview with Coery Feldman is disgusting. She knew what Cory was saying was true, and she kept questioning him on it.
Ross “Sarcastic Dad” 1 year ago
Jerome, I'm giving you an upvote for googling what you didn't know instead of just saying, "I don't know this one. Someone please explain." lol
Load More Replies... Dre Mosley 1 year ago
She brought us "The View" That alone makes her deserving of being on this list.
Ephemera Image 1 year ago
She was always disgusting. I watched an interview of hers once, and she somehow seemed fixated on the person's sexual proclivities more than their political views.
Iridian 1 year ago
She should be much higher on the list. Her interview with Dolly Parton was likewise disgusting. She just kept going for the jugular with no trigger and without even a reaction from Dolly. Dolly kept being pure class, giving Walters no reason for behaving the way she did, and yet Walters just kept revealing herself as being bitter and jealous and just nasty/ classist.
Angrykitten 1 year ago (edited)
Ok this I'll have to look up. I did know about the interview with Corey. I'm shocked mother Theresa hasn't appeared on this yet. She was a monster
Load More Replies... Daniel Marsh 1 year ago
How about the Monica Lewinski interview? Lewisnki essentially admitted that she told Linda Tripp that Clinton would probably have her killed, and that's why Tripp started recording the phone conversations... and Barbara Walters ignored the reveal and went on to discussing condom flavors.
Me Oh My (He/They) 1 year ago
Poor girl. At least she can safely come out and talk about what happened now.
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According to Prof. Ferguson, it's important to remember that most people will actively try to hide their negative traits. “That's normal, and nothing to panic about,” he said. “But I suppose the main thing—when being drawn entirely into a person's orbit or worldview—is whether or not there is any possibility that they're profiting from some degree of insincerity and is it making us prone to ignoring some information that should throw up some red flags. There [has to be] a careful balance between being naive and overly suspicious.”
#21
John Lennon sang about peace and love and then went home and beat his wife and kid.
Graham_Illegal 1 year ago
We know about Lennon's abusive past because he openly discussed it in his lyrics and interviews. He transformed from an angry working-class boy into a feminist adult. If anything, he should be seen as a positive example of recognizing and changing toxic behaviors. If you’d rather focus on the tabloid aspects of his life instead of his art, at least be aware of his timeline and progress.
Daniel Marsh 1 year ago
He drunkenly tried strangling May Pang in 1973. He died singing about how wonderful it would be to no longer own property, while living in a super-fancy, enormous penthouse in downtown Manhattan and treating the maids live utter c**p. A truly dreadful person, start to finish.
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Andi 1 year ago
imagine no possessions .... except for the air conditioned room in my NY apartment where we keep our fir coats naturally.
Graham_Illegal 1 year ago
Haven't you noticed that most people advocating for systemic change often benefit from the system? Do you think it's hypocritical to fight against homelessness and poverty if I have an above-average income? Shouldn't I still fight sexism and misogyny even if I'm a man? The economic and political elites want us to shame each other for our individual choices and purchases, but in reality, only a systemic approach can change our society for the better. Pointing fingers at each other only preserves the current system, although it may make you feel better about yourself without posing a real threat to the status quo.
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Bewarethere@gmail.com 1 year ago
Yup and abandoned his son Julian cut him out of his life and out of financial security
Lorraine R 1 year ago
Remember, John's father abandoned him, and his mother sent him to live with her sister Mimi -- which was probably a good thing, since Mimi was the only point of stability in his young life. Then his mother died in a traffic accident when he was 14. That's enough to cause major mental trauma in anyone.
Load More Replies... Mauve Mouse 1 year ago
Yeah I have never I understood the whole hero worship thing around him. I have literally never read anyone say a good thing about him.
iseefractals 1 year ago
Yeah....when he was a 23 year old with a wife and a kid while dealing with all that baggage that comes from being thrust into the spotlight of "biggest star in the world" while also suffering from various mental health issues at a point in time that things like that were not acknowledged, let alone discussed....which led him to self medicate, and into addiction. People aren't all good or all bad....they're flawed, complex.....and capable of growth. It's childish idiocy to attempt to reduce anyone to the worst thing they've ever done, more so to ignore the progress they've made to address their issues. You condemn the act, not the person....because the reality is, that while you eagerly pass judgement on someone whose circumstances you know nothing about, there is someone else, doing exactly the same thing to YOU likely more than one...in fact it's become somewhat of a problem in modern society. It's helping nothing and no one.
FreeTheUnicorn 1 year ago
The post is pointing out the hypocrisy of being very vocal about nonviolence and then being violent to your family. But stop suggesting people get a pass for a pattern of abuse because of mental health issues. This didn't happen because he was psychotic, this happened because he didnt respect his wife and child.
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kissmychakram 1 year ago
I know it is hard to believe (like racial segregation and homosexuality being criminal) but men hitting women was considered much more acceptable than it is today. You don't have to look far into the past to see men slapping "hysterical" women in movies. This is not to excuse Lennon, but he did acknowledge his fault and tried to learn and change himself.
FreeTheUnicorn 1 year ago
He seemed pretty comfortable calling out violence in society as terrible. It's the hypocrisy that is most damning.
Load More Replies... Jac Carr 1 year ago
He was a pretentious d**k with no singing talent; good songwriter though but that's it
Ephemera Image 1 year ago
'Yeah Yeah Yeah ' is not good songwriting. Ugh. Even as a teenager I got bored with that.
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#22
It's finally coming out, but Drake. I’m 30. I can’t imagine wanting to talk to someone underage all the time. I have nothing in common with them, I feel like they’d get annoying (not their faults but they’re young and immature). I mean if I had family that young maybe. But just random teenagers is so strange
Namea 1 year ago
Not since the accident that also left him in a wheelchair.
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Donald 1 year ago (edited)
I'm glad my Spidey senses were right on this creep. Never liked him, never will. His music is empty and vapid, written by someone else and has always come across as fake. He's a cardboard gangster and acts like a high school douchebag. I'm glad Kendrick Lamar buried him and called him out for all his suspicious behavior around minors.
Pittsburgh rare 1 year ago
One thing that made me despise him profoundly before all his s**t came out was how in a music video he was flaunting some big a*s check he donated to a high school. Footage of students and teachers reactions included. It was so exploitative and tasteless.
Tiny Dancer 1 year ago
No, please, keep him! Frankly, we can't get rid of him fast enough. Did you see the ridiculous pants he wore to his son's soccer game here last week? Maybe he was trying to impress the cheerleaders *shudder*
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Dark Pearl 1 year ago
wop wop wop wop wop dot fvck em up, wop wop wop wop wop wop imma do my stuff
Load More Replies... Doc “Dr Rotwang” Rotwang 1 year ago
I know that this guy is a pop culture guy or a rapper or something but that's it.
#23
Jared Leto.
For someone who does a month long spirit journey in the wilderness each year, he's a huge piece of s**t.
Franz The Cat 1 year ago
Met him once. He was very nice and down to earth. Other than that do not know much about this guy.
Prof. Ludden suggested that the people who could be considered monsters might charm you. “But at the same time, you may get an uneasy feeling about the person,” he added. “Don't dismiss this feeling just because you really want to like this person. You may be picking up on subtle body language cues letting you know this person is not to be trusted.
“I'm also not saying that you should never trust other people. But it is much better to build that trust on an honest, objective assessment of the person rather than a superficial first impression and the halo effect.”
#24
Lizzo. I loved her song "boys" because it was literally just her singing about how she thought dudes were cool, and she doesn't discriminate over size, height, demographic. She seemed cool, and then she turned out to be an a**hole who judged other WOMAN for their size and its like....Lizzo is fat af how can she tell act like that?
ribbit 1 year ago
i had no idea about that, what did she do (if you're comfortable discussing SA)?
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#25
I always knew Will Smith had horrible vibes even before "the slap". Not as bad as others on this list but he seems like a prick.
El Dee 1 year ago
Unpopular Opinion - if Will Smith hadn't slapped Chris Rock we'd be remembering just how cruel Chris Rock was to Jada Smith in mocking her health condition. Smith slapped Rock but Rock was 'punching down' That slap saved Rock's career..
Atom Bohr 1 year ago
I agree with this. That joke was awful and it's time "comedians" learn that comments like that are off the table. Yes, the slap was inappropriate and two wrongs don't make a right, but personally, if I said something degrading someone's appearance and got walloped for it, I'd think I got what I deserved...
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Shark Lady 1 year ago
There was a blind going around at the time that Will Smith was suffering from addiction and various other issues, it was suggested that he needed a blow up in public to give him the excuse to go to rehab, in the hope it would be less damaging to his image and career. True or not, who knows, but if it is they vastly underestimated the fallout.
Michael None 1 year ago
All the models of perfection going after him. Cause one moment of indiscretion defines him. Not excusing him but all the so called fans need to get down off their pedestals and realize that celebrities are people too and they make mistakes just like us.
Anna Ekberg 1 year ago
Didn't this happen like a long time ago? People having a hard time letting go of a fight that happend between 2 people none of us will ever meet.
James Blanken 1 year ago
I don't completely fault Will for the slap tho. He was laughing at the joke, then Jada gave him "the look." Is a look that anyone who has been in a toxic, abusive, narcissistic relationship knows all too well. And the thing is, I doubt Jada cared about the joke, she cared that Will laughed at it.
#26
Jackie Chan. He confesses a lot in his book (without realizing how much of an a*****e he is, I guess?), abusing his toddler son, etc etc.
And THEN on top of that he's a shill for the CCP. Says s**t like "Chinese people don't deserve freedom". He's from Hong Kong, which is probably a double slap in the face. Even a lot of mainland Chinese people know what the CCP is, but they can't necessarily escape. He's an international star, and decides to say what he does.
Michael Wlodarczyk 1 year ago
He also has an illegitimate daughter he has basically disowned and abandoned because of her sexuality.
Fire Singer 1 year ago
NO! This broke my heart. I loved Jackie Chan and had no clue about any of this. Shame on him!
Sven Grammersdorf 1 year ago
His son was arrested for d**g possession and he said he deserved to be executed
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Cathy Lane 1 year ago
I read a biography about Jackie Chan 20 years ago, and I have to say that unless you come from the culture he was raised in, being acceptably normal and decent wouldn't be accepted in the fighting tooth and nail environmental he was raised in. They say the first seven years of life pretty much sets a person on their lot in life, and he had a rough go.
Timothy Leung 1 year ago
He's a taboo figure for the HK people, especially amongst the younger generation.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
If he wants so much to join CCP, just go then, we ain't holding you back, Jackie!
#27
Narendra Modi of India. Despite being praised for economic reform he’s an autocrat at heart.
Marno C. 1 year ago
I am concerned by the return of the idea of voting for 'strong men': charismatic, authoritatian, populists who create a base by demonizing whole population. They convince their supporters that they are 'victims' who are suffering from the secret machinations of these 'enemy' groups and only the Strong Man can help them. Not only are these Strong Men corrupt, but also it also sows unnecessary division and hostility within a country. All to gain power.
Nina 1 year ago
Yes, happening in western europe as well. Just blame it on minorities, never on policies from previous decades.
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Tresa Joseph 1 year ago
oh yeah he is also aiming to transform India into a more Hindu-centric nation and prioritize Hindu values and practices over the country's secular foundations.
Vix Spiderthrust 1 year ago
I was watching a thing about the Indian election the other day where the commentator said the big surprise over how badly Modri did in the vote is that it suggests the election was actually run quite fairly
Bailey 1 year ago
The Juice Media on YouTube did a good video recently about the state of democracy in the various countries holding elections this year, including mentioning the things Modi's government have done which threaten democracy in India. The Indian government got YouTube to block it in India as they said it was violating the "Prevention of Insults to National Honour" act 🙄
#28
Oh, yall don't know him but my dad. Absolute scumbag. He's extremely well respected in his field and all of his family adores him. I was a secret child he hid for years. When I was assaulted he blamed me. He made his children lie to their own family about their secret sibling, and he literally sabotaged my career in my 20s. I only found success when I finally went no contact.
Bexxxx 1 year ago
I’ve never met my dad. I know nothing about him. He disappeared when my twin and I were babies and never paid my mom the child support he owed. Apparently he’s still alive because recently he tried to apply for a government pension and my country’s government said AHA! THERE YOU ARE! and made him pay my mom a bunch of money lol. I don’t know how he avoided getting caught for so many years, but that’s the story I’m being told by my mom with very few other details. What a dumb guy though.
#29
Literally every judge from Sharktank. They scam so many people out of so much money it’s f*****g deplorable.
Bexxxx 1 year ago
My dumb brain read that as if it was pronounced “deh-bawg-ish” 😅
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ConstantlyJon 1 year ago
This is why I don't understand Trump voters. When he was just beginning to run, people were like "he's different, he's not a politician!" Yeah, he's worse.... he's a businessman.
Regina Holt 1 year ago
I know what you mean ConstantlyJon. People voted for tRump because he was a business man, ignoring the fact that so many of his businesses FAILED!
Load More Replies... Ruth 1 year ago
I don’t understand this. Any venture capitalist is risking their own money, so they deserve a decent return on the investment. Maybe some people automatically hate them because they are rich, but they have helped a lot of companies succeed that couldn’t have made it without advise and financial backing.
Belladonna Wexhome 1 year ago
Yes, but asking for like - 90% F- you very much.
Load More Replies... Regina Holt 1 year ago
I just think the show is amusing. Purely for entertainment. That people that agree to let the sharks so much from them, it just adds to my "shaking my head" at the whole show. I don't watch "Survivor" or "Big Brother" or any of those "reality" shows, but shark tank is just amusing to me. '
Julie S 1 year ago
I had to Google Sharktank and it seems to be the same premise as Dragons Den in the UK. All the dragons for Dragons Den are all really nice so I'm curious as to why the people on Sharktank are so awful.
Belladonna Wexhome 1 year ago
Look up Barbara Corcoran - She is so out of touch with real life it's scary.
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Cindy Brick 1 year ago
I'd call an exception on Kevin O'Leary. He admits he's a hardass and can be 'cruel to be kind.' He's also extremely honest -- which I actually admire.
#30
My ex-best friend. We were close like sisters. She started living with my fiancé and I. She then started sleeping with my fiancé behind my back and would say stuff like, “sometimes I forget you’re in a relationship.” I of course broke up with my fiancé and ended my friendship with my best friend. They left together and dated for a couple of months before he moved on to the next girl. In the meantime, my ex-friend turned many of our mutual friends against me because I wouldn’t forgive her and she now felt really bad about what she did. She’s an a*****e. Our mutual friends still think she’s great. At least I figured out who my real friends are.
marcelo D. 1 year ago
your mutual friends are a******s too, not just your ex friend. And definetely also your ex
TheReader19 1 year ago
Any mutual friends who turned against her because she wouldn't forgive the hoe are sacks of 💩's themselves and they can burn in hell
Bettye McKee 1 year ago
Life lessons. You don't have to forgive anyone, it won't bother them either way. Now drop both of them and move on with your life. This incident doesn't define you.
Sherry Diamond 1 year ago
Come on you leftist wanna-be journalists!!!!! This article is near 100% inaccurate and so full of bogus information. You did not fool anyone with your ignorance - it shows right through! I suggest you seek out a different career! Maybe waste management?
#31
Lyndon B. Johnson, I find it hard to believe he is being lionized by the descendants of the people who hated him so much. He was responsible for the deaths of 55,000 Americans and millions in SE Asia, he looked us in the eye and lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident so he could widen the war to fatten his friends. Now people say "oh but his domestic policy, he gave us Medicare and Headstart", how cheaply he bought you out, he was a war criminal who killed a lot of my friends.
iseefractals 1 year ago
social security acts that created Medicare and Medicaid, the first civil rights acts since reconstruction, the 1965 Voting Rights Act that tackled racial discrimination in southern polling centres, the Fair Housing Act of 1968, and the Higher Education Act of 1965. Yeah....so cheaply.
Rose Cotter-l 1 year ago
yes, they don't seem to understand what the Pentagon Papers proved, that Presidents since FDR had been planning on invading Vietnam it just happened on LBJ's watch. I'm in no way excusing his massive mistake but he did try to NEGOTIATE FOR PEACE in N Vietnam by April 1968 (right after the Tet Offensive) but it was his CIA, candidate Nixon, Kissinger & Chennault that blocked peace by making a secret pact with the Dictator S Vietnam president we installed to prevent N Vietnam from negotiating with LBJ/Dems with their hoped-for peace by Nov 1968. As soon as Nixon was elected the block was "lifted" so NIXON kept us in Vietnam for 5 more Hamburger Hill Years for absolutely nothing.
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Strings 1 year ago
Something to think about: the President doesn't make or pass laws, Congress does. All the Pres can do is sign or veto
Tom Brincefield 1 year ago
But Presidents can also propose legislation and give a lot of support to bills they want to pass. And vice versa.
Load More Replies... ConstantlyJon 1 year ago
definitely difficult to assess when his foreign policy and domestic policy were so very different from each other.
Ralph Watkins 1 year ago
LBJ was complicated. Personally he was a flaming racist. But he went against his own feelings & members of his own party to make sure the Civil Rights Amendment passed. His biggest opponent of getting that pass was GOP Senator Barry Goldwater. He was a racist & misogynist. In 2016 one of his former interns described how exciting & rewarding the work she did for Barry Goldwater back then. She got all kinds of applause for that statement from the ignorant masses. That intern was Hillary Rodham Clinton & she said it at the 2016 DNC. Morns cheered for her.
Pandaturtle 1 year ago
She also praised Robert Byrd as her friend and mentor, a man of 'eloquence and nobility'. SMH
Load More Replies... Rose Cotter-l 1 year ago (edited)
all presidents are egomaniacs, if it hadn't been for South Asia nightmare, he would be remembered as the most progressive politician in our history. I am not excusing his record on policing or Vietnam but his leadership in other areas was UNMATCHED. Without Johnson, we would never have gotten Civil Rights legislation, medicare, medicaid, OSHA, or the most liberal civil rights SCOTUS ever. Nixon/Reagan took that court in the opposite direction with 9 Right-to-far-right Justices permanently by 1986. That's why we have REGRESSED so much in the last 50 years.
Lee Gilliland 1 year ago
And at that, he's only remembered because he managed to do the many things Kennedy planned. Together, they made a great president. ONE great president
KatZen 1 year ago
Exactly. JFK sucked too but pushed for a lot of good. So yeah.
Load More Replies... Manana Man 1 year ago (edited)
Vietnam was a big mistake that tore him up. It's why he resigned. His advisors really deserve more blame. At the time it was called 'McNamara's War.' That guy was a real warmonger, always wanting more and bigger war, kind of like today and certain politicians regarding Ukraine. The biggest single step forward for the civil rights movement - ever - was the Civil Rights Act of 1965, which LBJ forced through Congress. (edited to correct the year)
Bettye McKee 1 year ago
He also stole Social Security by putting the money in the General Fund so it could be spent. Social Security consists of money deducted from workers' paychecks. It's not a tax you can move around from one account to another.
Cass Malone 1 year ago
You could put pretty much every president on this list, Jimmy Carter being the only exception.
brie sansotta 1 year ago
Yeah, now LBJ is a really complicated person - read the Caro books on him. But, YES, the social acts and Brown vs the Board would never have gotten passed without his pushing support.
#32
The Rock/Dwayne Johnson.
I think stuff is just starting to come out since he’s always been super controlling of his public image, but it seems like the guy is a complete and total sociopath.
Edit: I didn’t expect this to blow up. Here’s an article detailing how him and his team have crafted his public image
People have also started to speak up about his bad behavior on set, being late all the time and rude to crew members.
There was the Hawaii b******t with Oprah. There was his handling of Black Adam bombing - also reports of bad onset behavior and mistreatment of others.
“Monster” might be a stretch, but the guy is definitely an a*****e and people are just now finding out. Dude is fake as fake gets.
Wintermute 1 year ago
That link is a a Jezebel article of someone psychoanalyzing his instagram feed. Hardly credible stuff.
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Sue User 1 year ago
What started me questioning ( still on fence) is his innteraction with Kevin Hart. Saw them together on Graham Norton. The stories Kevin tell ( yes i know they are embellished) remind me of " you know you were abused when you tell a funny anecdote from your childhood and everyone looks horrified".
UpQuarkDownQuark (he/him) 1 year ago
Dude is buffed and can raise one eyebrow. That is the limit of his charisma. I’ve never understood his appeal.
I just work here 1 year ago
I was disgusted when he said he isn't endorsing biden. So you prefer a criminal rapist who will put a literal end to democracy?
Rebekah Krause 1 year ago
“Beyond The Mat” is all I have to say about that self absorbed narcissist
Joanne Earle 1 year ago
That article wasn't about how 'him and his team have crafted his public image'.
Angrykitten 1 year ago
The fall or with the fast and the furious crew was what caught my attention about him. Much more had come out recently. Saddens me that people like this can be so successful.
#33
John Harvey Kellogg (the cereal guy) was a real piece of work.
TLDR; John Harvey Kellog was the cook, and his brother was the industrialist.
As far as I can remember, the insane brother invented the cereal. The sane brother invented the factory process of making them, and had the idea to cover them in sugar (frosted flakes).
The insane Kellog believed that the default state of man was an apathetic unfeeling void and anything that caused excitement such as good food, warm baths, obviously intercourse for anything other than procreation, was sinful and against God's design. I believe he was also a proponent of yoghurt enemas, which HAS to be a fetish thing, right?
GrowingThruConcrete 1 year ago
Yes, when I finally reached the end, my mind was blank and I just yelled out "They're grrrrrreat!" In Tony the Tigers voice
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Daniel Marsh 1 year ago
Actually, Kellogg was opposed to masturbation, not at all to actual sex. Pretty damned libertine for his day, in fact. And while his sect was more than a little kooky (7th-Day Adventists are insanely conspiracy-minded and heretical), it's not clear that his diet was strictly based on his religious beliefs; he was trying to cure indigestion, which was actually a major problem in his day. And while his solution caused more problems than it cured (corn made more easily digested by high temperatures causes insulin bounces), it was actually successful.
ConstantlyJon 1 year ago
Knowing Better has a couple of recent videos that talk about Kellogg and his ilk. Very crazy cat.
Be_ Heard 1 year ago (edited)
This excuse of a person was truly horrible. If he caught a young boy or girl masterbating he would cut, yes cut, off their clit or the boys foreskin as punishment and so they couldn't do it again. Also, it's been said he took the excrement from the kids or maybe himself and would keep it and analyze it. He was bonkers and a controlling POS
Mark (it/urgh) 1 year ago
We don't kink shame here. You wanna stick yoghurt up your butt, go ahead; just don't spray it at anyone.
SobyKay 1 year ago
All this nonsense about the "insane Kellog" does not describe how he was a monster, just that he had strange beliefs
Sheena Leversedge Wood 1 year ago
there's strange beliefs, and then there's advocating for preventing masturbation by circumcision in boys and applying carbolic acid to the clitoris of girls to reduce sexual pleasure and sensation.
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David 1 year ago (edited)
I can't speak to what fetishes he had but it seems like there is some science to the yogurt enemas. I don't do that, but yogurt is marketed as (among other things) having probiotics that improve your gut / intestinal health. Most people eat it rather than shove it up their a*s but either way the idea is introducing favorable bacteria to your intestines. I take my probiotics in a capsule (which I don't shove up my butt) and they have helped me.
#34
Dr. Seuss. Cheated on his wife while she was sick, which lead to her [self-harm] then married his affair partner the very next year.
Rafael 1 year ago
Just to clarify, her "self harm" was of the final variety. I'm fine with avoiding triggering delicate issues, but at least try to be clear when censoring things.
Brian bell 1 year ago
Yes 100%. Like a commenter on another post said, like what? It drove her to step on lego blocks?
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ribbit 1 year ago
i second that, because "unalive" is BETTER. "self-harm" is literally another trigger and i assume what we're doing here is avoiding triggers.
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Ouss Ben Aziza 1 year ago
[self-harm] Is hilarious... This whole concept... Did you guys not see George Carlin's special? That Comedian/philosopher explained it perfectly. IT IS NEVER ENDING! [self-harm] will become the new trigger word... then another then another then another. Just call it what it is please.. Suicide... We know what it is. Please stop this infantile childish disrespectful behavior... You are tarnishing their story... What is wrong with you? Why embrace this psychopathic line of thinking?
Manana Man 1 year ago
It goes right along with 'platforming.' 'I don't want that guy to expose people to his ideas because they might believe him. I don't want people exposed to the word suicide because it might inspire them to do it.' It amounts to looking down on others. I'm ok because I'm smart, but other people are too stupid to handle it.
Load More Replies... Ruth 1 year ago
Maybe karma got the best of him in the end. He refused to allow most of his books to be made into movies as he hated what "Hollywood" did to the ones he allowed. He also never allowed his characters to be used for merchandising (toys, T-shirts, etc). After his death, his second wife completely sold him out. She made as much money as she could from all of his work. Movies, dog toys, diapers - she sold the rights to anyone she could.
Jess Smith 1 year ago
No one's mentioning his Japanese 'fifth column' cartoon, accusing Japanese Americans - who I read in some book were so loyal that an *actual Japanese spy* didn't even try to recruit among them - of being loyal to Japan, the Enemy, and thus worthy of internment?
#35
I think Eddie Murphy #1. Most think he's a cool guy but heard story after story he's mean, hateful, and downright terrible to people. JLo is mean many stories about her getting people fired and so forth for trivial reasons and belittling the help. Yet she is fairly popular most think she's a decent person. I am not calling her a monster but most think Jamie Lee Curtis is super cool and would be nice as hell but heard she is actually a snob and cold in person. Which surprised me.
SlightlyTarnished 1 year ago
This is what happens with you get your news on pop culture from BuzzFeed and Bored Panda
Nicky Shrimps 1 year ago
I guess "I heard" now means you read part of a story on the interwebs
Load More Replies... Squiffle Noses 1 year ago
'she is actually a snob and cold in person' - so everyone that ever comes up to her needs to be welcomed into her life!? Get famous and try that for 20 years! [Plenty of famous people who actually do that turn out to be wife beating a*s hats anyway!]
Gozer LeGozerian 1 year ago
"I've heard that" - okay so you don't actually know. So maybe refrain from slander before you're sure
TheReader19 1 year ago
I dislike Eddie Murphy for what he said about first born child. He didn't consider them to be "really" his child once he had kids with his first wife Nicole.
Casey Smith 1 year ago
I hated his stand up about gays. Kept my brother in the closet for decades.
Pittsburgh rare 1 year ago
Eddie Murphy had a child with one of the Spice Girls and let's say he didn't fit in the parenting shoes. No one touches my queen JLC! l don't know if she's snob and frankly, l don't care, because she's been an example on how to support your transitioning child. And that alone makes her a good person in my books. Plus she's great at comedy.
Donald 1 year ago
I also love JLC but being a good parent, but horrible to everyone else does not make you a good person.
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Ray Lewis Never understand why people buy into his holier than thou preacher schtick.
MisterE 1 year ago
NFL hall of fame linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens. Stabbed a person to death and got away with it.
#37
My mom’s old roommate back when I was a kid. Everyone around him to this day thinks he’s a saint but he’s a creep. I was horrified when I learned he has young children.
Marla Moops 1 year ago
So have you reported him or told anyone about this? Complaining is one thing but we are talking about potential future abuse.
Rebelliousslug 1 year ago
If you read their whole post yes they tried to report him but he didn’t get in any trouble at all.
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Anne Sullivan, AKA Teacher. Despite helping Helen Keller rise above her disabilities, it's well-documented that she often beat Helen (as a means of disciplining her when she was still a "wild" feral child), and colluded with the Kellers in preventing Helen from marrying the man she loved.
DC 1 year ago
Beating children was considered normal at that time. I won't advocate for doing it, but other than today, back then, you were basically taught what was right by people just as clueless as you, and we tend to believe that something that happens all around us must be somehow ok'ish, at least not wrong. Remember, deviating from your peers is what takes effort, often bravery, not fitting in.
Nimitz 1 year ago
Lots of people chose not to beat the s**t out of their kids back then too. Please don't give abusers a pass cause "everyone did it". If that were the rule then it would still be okay for men to sexually harass everywhere. Society has changed and it's okay to judge those people for being s****y.
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lovemy suffolk 1 year ago
Beating kids was pretty common up through the 1990's. Didn't know that she blocked Helen from marriage 🤔. Sad.
rumple slunkskin 1 year ago
Yes. and Helen Keller advocated eugenics and once used the term "malformed idiot baby" and "weeding the human garden."
Sue User 1 year ago (edited)
I never heard about that. What i do know is that Helen Keller hated being the " see, if she can do it, so can you" .She acknowledged that her parents had enough money to hire a teacher. ETA: so apparently she belived in euthanasia for *severly* disabled kids. She also belived in birth control, which was being touted as " eugenics" when what the advocats we saying is the poor were having enough trouble as it was, why should they have more kids ? This is because she was a socialist and they believed that companies just wanted more workers, especially from the poor people because then they would work cheap.
Load More Replies... Manana Man 1 year ago
Well the movie version shows them having a regular brawl soon after they met; Helen was practically an animal at that stage.
#39
Brad Pitt - reading the account of what happened on the plane between him, Angelina Jolie and their kids is terrifying.
iseefractals 1 year ago
Until you consider all the things that Angelina has actually been proven to have done...and remember this "story" came to light as she was enduring the backlash of her own shiftiness. Accusations aren't evidence.
B 1 year ago
Accusations aren't evidence is a statement alot of people need to remember
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Megan Curl 1 year ago (edited)
We will never know what really happened between them, nor should we. Likely that they’re both not great people. Also, I’m tired of hearing about it - for the last decade.
Amy Manzanares 1 year ago
It's a toss up between him and Angelina. Turning your children against their father, especially in such a public way is horrifying and cruel. She strikes me as an extremely manipulative narcissist.
SlightlyTarnished 1 year ago
Reading whose account of what happened? Jolie's? Ah, ok, there ya go.
Joanne Earle 1 year ago
I'll always been Team Brad. I loathe Angelina. She is a home wrecker. Broke up Laura Dern and Billy Bob Thornton, and Brad and Jennifer. Cannot stand her or her movies.
Michael None 1 year ago
It's amazing how after Johnny Depp people still go whole hearted into these stories trying to cancel someone over accusations. Where's the evidence? Where's the police report?
Doodles1983 1 year ago
Jolie comes across as a nutbag. She seems to want. And she gets. No second thoughts for who she tramples on. I believe Brad did lose his temper, he was (I think) having alcohol issues. But he owns up to it. And bettered himself from it. She doesn't have that self-insight which ishy she seems detestful.
#40
Alexander Graham Bell. Wanted to eradicate deaf people. Tried to ban ASL. Also he didn’t invent the telephone, it was really an Italian guy. 🤷♀️.
Andi 1 year ago
oh get it right! He did not want to eradicate deaf people but deafness. His wife was deaf which is why he started working on the telephone in the first place - to help her and other deaf people. He was a proponent of oralism, but that was seen as advanced for the time and fought for the education of deaf children who were excluded at the time. And as for Antonio Meucci - the invention of the phone is a complex affair so it was not just ' an Italian guy' -actually Italian American but we'll skip that.
Emma S 1 year ago
Bell made the first ever phone call though, so regardless of who had the idea first, it isn't a successful invention until it's a full working model. Also, Bell's wife and mother were deaf and he discouraged the use of sign language, but in his head he probably thought he was empowering deaf people to live 'normally.' Those were different times and people did not celebrate disabilities back then.
Vanesska 1 year ago
Having worked with Deaf children and speaking sign language I can say that eradicating deafness = eradicating the Deaf, as it is their identity to be deaf. That is the point of view of the Deaf. Moreover, in 1880 when the Congress of Milan took place, the only country to go against the general opinion that Deaf shouldn't speak sign language but oralise instead was the US. Bell's opinion did not align with the US ' opinion. As a result, the US were way more advanced about the education thanks to ASL ! and the welfare of deaf people contrarily to European countries who imposed oralism on the Deaf. As a matter of fact it started the "dark age of the Deaf" with an "awakening (le réveil sourd") at least in France in 1984 when Alfredo Corrado , a deaf costumier from the Opera in NY came to Paris. He was supposed to stay a few months but remained there the rest of his life to help the French deaf community to develop French sign language and education with the IVT.
What do you think ?
Brian Hawley 1 year ago
Works the other way round too. I had a theatre friend who worked with Victoria Beckham. She looks like a hard faced b*tch, but she was really nice.
Gavin Johnson 1 year ago
True. Did some work with her and David Beckham at their home in Alderley Edge when he was at Man Utd, both down to earth and decent people, she made a properly decent mug of tea too!
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Jill Rhodry 1 year ago
Also surprised by no Mother Theresa. But I'm in two minds about some of these things - some people, yep truly evil but some are taken out of historical context, not saying what they did wasn't bad but was acceptable at that time - also, I think it's a good lesson it that no-one is all good - having said that, I do believe some people can be all bad - yep, I rambled, trying to process...
Enlee Jones 1 year ago
“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,” — John Wayne in a 1971 interview with Playboy magazine
Tracy Sellars 1 year ago
Elon Musk. Called a diving rescuer a pedi all because the rescuer refused to use his tiny sub in a rescue mission. The sub was useless for the mission to save the kids stuck in cave. And apparently pointing out the obvious gave old Elon the right to try and destroy this man's life. He is a nothing but a carpetbagger.
Wintermute 1 year ago
Some of these people are clearly awful, but for some, I think folks are just surprised that celebrities aren't who they want them to be in real life, and then amplify their inequities into scandalous and evil behavior. We obsess over the corporate image of a person, assign it to our own identities, then get upset when we realize that reality is different than our fantasies. A bit absurd to get mad at idols for being actual people.
Trev Fontaine 1 year ago (edited)
Only about 2 of these people great called great. Why the f**k are people adding their mates from school or dad to this list
Danni 1 year ago
Where's Edison, that psycho electrocuted animals for his own amusement. he stole half of "his inventions" from people working under him and was just all around a full blown a**hat.
Game Guy 1 year ago
It wasn't for his own amusement, it was to prove that alternating current is more dangerous than the direct current his grid used. Still a scumbag thing to do, but back then the whole "you have dominion over all the animals" thing was taken literally. No one batted an eye at animal abuse. People commonly tied kittens in a bag and drowned them to keep the population down. By the standards of his time, electrocuting animals for business purposes wasn't a wrong thing to do. And btw, if you've ever used makeup, soap, shampoo, medicines or any number of other products, they were tested on animals first, and the testing was not at all pleasant, so the standards still haven't changed much.
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Der Kommissar 1 year ago
Ford, Thomas Edison and Charles Lindbergh are 3 peas in a pod
Load More Replies... Mimi M 1 year ago
MLK - laughed while a woman was raped. Those (FBI) tapes are still being suppressed. https://www.businessinsider.com/mlk-jr-rape-allegations-fbi-2019-5
Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo 1 year ago
Thats according to an FBI summary, not a tape the public has heard.
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Brian Hawley 1 year ago
Works the other way round too. I had a theatre friend who worked with Victoria Beckham. She looks like a hard faced b*tch, but she was really nice.
Gavin Johnson 1 year ago
True. Did some work with her and David Beckham at their home in Alderley Edge when he was at Man Utd, both down to earth and decent people, she made a properly decent mug of tea too!
Load More Replies... Jill Rhodry 1 year ago
Also surprised by no Mother Theresa. But I'm in two minds about some of these things - some people, yep truly evil but some are taken out of historical context, not saying what they did wasn't bad but was acceptable at that time - also, I think it's a good lesson it that no-one is all good - having said that, I do believe some people can be all bad - yep, I rambled, trying to process...
Enlee Jones 1 year ago
“I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility,” — John Wayne in a 1971 interview with Playboy magazine
Tracy Sellars 1 year ago
Elon Musk. Called a diving rescuer a pedi all because the rescuer refused to use his tiny sub in a rescue mission. The sub was useless for the mission to save the kids stuck in cave. And apparently pointing out the obvious gave old Elon the right to try and destroy this man's life. He is a nothing but a carpetbagger.
Wintermute 1 year ago
Some of these people are clearly awful, but for some, I think folks are just surprised that celebrities aren't who they want them to be in real life, and then amplify their inequities into scandalous and evil behavior. We obsess over the corporate image of a person, assign it to our own identities, then get upset when we realize that reality is different than our fantasies. A bit absurd to get mad at idols for being actual people.
Trev Fontaine 1 year ago (edited)
Only about 2 of these people great called great. Why the f**k are people adding their mates from school or dad to this list
Danni 1 year ago
Where's Edison, that psycho electrocuted animals for his own amusement. he stole half of "his inventions" from people working under him and was just all around a full blown a**hat.
Game Guy 1 year ago
It wasn't for his own amusement, it was to prove that alternating current is more dangerous than the direct current his grid used. Still a scumbag thing to do, but back then the whole "you have dominion over all the animals" thing was taken literally. No one batted an eye at animal abuse. People commonly tied kittens in a bag and drowned them to keep the population down. By the standards of his time, electrocuting animals for business purposes wasn't a wrong thing to do. And btw, if you've ever used makeup, soap, shampoo, medicines or any number of other products, they were tested on animals first, and the testing was not at all pleasant, so the standards still haven't changed much.
Load More Replies... Der Kommissar 1 year ago
Ford, Thomas Edison and Charles Lindbergh are 3 peas in a pod
Load More Replies... Mimi M 1 year ago
MLK - laughed while a woman was raped. Those (FBI) tapes are still being suppressed. https://www.businessinsider.com/mlk-jr-rape-allegations-fbi-2019-5
Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo 1 year ago
Thats according to an FBI summary, not a tape the public has heard.
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