50 People Share The Most Bone-Chilling Medical Facts That Might Give You Goosebumps
Our body is an incredible machine, but it's also a bit of a mystery. Despite spending our entire lives in this amazing, complex vessel, we often know surprisingly little about it. However, while it might be thrilling to discover fun facts about the human body, there are also some unsettling truths you might prefer to ignore.
When u/Beneficial_Cry2061 asked on Reddit, "What is a disturbing medical fact that not many people know?" the responses started pouring in. People shared some truly unsettling facts that might just make you squirm. Dive in and discover these strange realities of the bodies we live in.
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The truth about HeLa cells. These cells grow and divide constantly and are used in all sorts of medical research to discover cures for cancer and other diseases. They were originally harvested from a woman named Henrietta Lacks who had cervical cancer that was fatal. She died in 1951. Her family didn’t know that her cells were even being used until recently. These cells were basically stolen from Henrietta by a doctor and he made millions from them, and Henrietta’s family never knew. Once they found out, they finally settled with a biotech company for an undisclosed amount. This woman has basically saved so many of us, and we all owe her so much.
What made the cells from Henrietta Lacks so scientifically significant is that they keep growing & dividing indefinitely. In 1952, this was a first, no other cells they harvested from other women did this. They are truly a scientific wonder & have been used in developing treatments for polio, cancers, HIV/AIDS & even the Covid vaccine. This woman needs to be celebrated & taught in every science class. To demean her down to just HeLa cells is a travesty that all of humanity needs to change. Many of us simply wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her cells.
I highly recommend the book “The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks.” It’s really fascinating
Load More Replies...There’s a (twisted) upside to this. Had her family been approached in 1951, they might have just said yes to the cells being harvested or accepted a pittance. Instead her descendants probably gained significantly more than they would have. Another point of consideration, the Dr. made millions off medical research. The cells alone don’t mean anything without people having the knowledge and expertise to extract and use the information. We are incredibly fortunate she existed but we owe the research and results to those who did it.
Teaching about Henrietta Lacks is good, but are we really all that shocked? Would have they have granted permission to use those cells? (It was the 1950s) Is it irrelevant since the choice was never given? (It was the 1950s and the patient was black) Should a doctor be able to take or retain tissue taken from a patient knowing it could be useful and may save lives? (Not generally considered amoral now but there was a time) Is this good irrelevant if this was done without permission? Personally I think some have an illogical desire to preserve the body after we die. I find it interesting that no one treats our fingernails, dead skin, hair or amputated limbs with the same reverence. As if rotting in the ground in one piece is better than potentially saving lives.
I am a misanthrope, so given the choice of rotting uselessly in the ground or being used to save lives, i prefer the former
Load More Replies...Revisionist history. Dr. Gey didn’t profit from the cells and was motivated by science. In those days ALL patients (not just black patients) signed releases for treatment. Releases for experimentation with patients' body parts were unheard of. Henrietta Lack's cells have been used in over 80,000 peer-reviewed scientific papers and even made it into outer space. Her contribution to science research cannot be overestimated. Don't malign a good doctor in a misguided (and unnecessary) effort to celebrate Henrietta Lack. Two things can be true at the same time: Henrietta Lack's contribution to science is immeasurable and Dr. Grey was a good and honest researcher.
The book about her is incredible. The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot
She was from Halifax County, Virginia, and will soon have a statue of her in a public space here soon. As a healthcare worker (RN, Emergency Department) of 37 years, I am so proud of the fact she has helped so many people, and I am glad she and her family are receiving the rcognition she deserves.
The first doctor to suggest hand washing before surgery was laughed at repeatedly by his colleagues.
And driven out of practice and mocked and I think eventually killed himself, then many years later it was proven science, go figure
Pretty sure he was institutionalized too for it (if my memory is correct, which it probably isn’t)
Load More Replies...The Doctor's name was Ignaz Semmelweis, an Austiran-Hungarian physician.
Also, no mention of the fact that nurse midwives were already practicing general hygiene which included hand washing. Ignaz made the observation that the mortality rate in the midwife wing of the hospital was far lower than the physician side (which I believe was as high as 50% at one point).
I assume...boldly... That we will all be laughing at some other improper procedures here very soon.
Florence Nightingale insisted hands be washed. She made the connection to dirty hands and infection very early on.
Doctors used to go from the morgue to birthing rooms. Many women died from what was called childbed fever, aka sepsis
A scary number of people wind up with vertebral artery dissections and strokes from chiropractic cervical manipulations. How do I know? I've seen several perfectly healthy women in the prime of their lives as organ harvests in my OR.
There is a ban on children under 2 getting spinal manipulation from a chiropractor in Australia because so many babies have died
I am still absolutely baffled when I see people posting online about taking their infant to the chiropractor, what in the actual hell??? I really wish they would ban it in the US too
Load More Replies...chiropractors = quacks. I can't believe it's still legal for these quacks to peddle their snake oil.
yeah! Go to an actual licensed physical therapist. They even have an exercise program for shoulders being stuck and causing dizziness and headache. Btw one easy one from that is nodding to all directions like you're in front of an audience, and another easy is lifting your shoulders as high as possible and getting them as tense as possible before letting them rest. Internet should have pt instructions for a lot of issues for free if you google
Load More Replies...Met a chiropractor from South Africa practising in the UK. She gave me her card and it had Dr on, so I asked her what her PhD was in. She replied that chiropractors are doctors because they heal people and I said that's not what the word means. It's not recommended by the chiropractors association in the UK to use the title of Doctor, personally I think it should be illegal
Load More Replies...All you have to do is watch some chiropractor giving some poor soul a neck or spine adjustment to know that s**t ain't healthy, lol.
and they get all excited about the 'crack' - dude that's just an air bubble, your joint's just tooting🤣🤣🤣
Load More Replies...I have heard from several doctors that think chiropractors are quacks and would never use one themselves.
I've heard that chiropractors are quacks from a chiropractor lol.
Load More Replies...Good and bad in all professions. A Good chircopractor is a godsend!!!! I know, I have one!!!
I see a good chiro who does gentle adjustments. 26 deaths were reported in the medical literature between 1975 and 2007 in the United States that were associated with chiropractic care. Some say one stroke in 4M patient happens, on average. Our circulatory system is unique to each individual, and some have aneurysms and don't know it. Any medical care has inherent risk.
It's not an aneurysm. It's a perfectly normal vertebral artery subjected to trauma, causing a dissection (the vessel wall is partial thickness torn, and no blood gets through. Major stroke, completely unnecessary.
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We got to modern medicine by grave robbing, crime, and accidents. it wasn't always legal to be a doctor.
Or ethical. Or moral. It's unfortunate the amount we learned from people who abused others. Slaves, nazi victims.... but we can try to turn it for good now I suppose.
Besides the Nazis, Unit 731 is a prime example. As is the Tuskegee Syphilis Study. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study
Load More Replies...Doctoring has always been legal. Studying corpses, now that was the illegal part.
Don't forget the millions of animals that were and are still subjected to testing, torture, and death in the name of science, medicine, and cosmetics.
And because of war. Blood types were discovered and blood transfusions invented because of the world wars
The whole concept of civilian paramedics also originated from the organized medical units formed during WW2
Load More Replies...In general war contributed to a lot of advancements, usually not for the right reasons initially sadly
Load More Replies...That we did, there was a fee for every body delivered. I quasi remember reading about it in Dr. Mutter's Marvels. Unfortunately it seems like there were a few people who were previously alive, but were killed to be a cadaver at a medical school. To this day, (already) deceased individuals who donate their organs or body to research may be surprised at where they end up. Car explosions, open amphitheater dissections attended to by the rich. Unrelated to their true intent.
All of our first anaesthetics were party d***s before they became anaesthetics. Rum, opium, laudanum, ether and chloroform for example.
It was frount upon to open up a body to study it too. I think it was about religion (what wasn‘t really?)
We did not fixed medicine, we fixed laws. If we then will fix religion, medicine will get even better (with all possible genetical research)
A fertilised egg can fail to develop normally and grow into a malignant tumor. It's called a molar pregnancy and I'd be very interested in what the "life begins at conception" crowd has to say about it.
That crowd should say the same thing that Jesus said on the topic of a woman's bodily autonomy and reproductive rights: Nothing.
and the 'man shall not lie with man' passage was a mistranslation.
Load More Replies...I believe life begins at conception. I also believe life has many unfathomable issues. If this happened to a woman that wanted a baby then my heart would break for her. I also believe that women should have control of their bodies. And I also believe that Jesus said a lot about this. He said to love one another,. And to me that says it all.
I also believe in life at conception, but I’m a practising Shintoist, so in a way everything has a life and soul, just sometimes different to how we perceive it. Just cos it went from baby to tumor doesn’t make it any less alive.
Load More Replies...Well, you know that most of them are morons, right? Republican fucktards in Louisiana refused to pass a bill that would clarify that anti-abortion laws didn't apply to molar or ectopic pregnancies even though they're *never* viable.
Ectopic pregnancies too… MORE THAN ONE Republican politician has suggested “re-implanting” them in the uterus. That’s NOT POSSIBLE.
It's more than just stupid - it's cruel. I saw an article after one of these incidents that quoted a doctor who said that he'd gotten phone calls from distraught patients who'd had wanted ectopic pregnancies removed, asking him why he hadn't offered them the option to 'reimplant' the pregnancy, and he had to explain to them that it was baloney.
Load More Replies...Those prolife women still feel entitled to an abortion, they just don't want you to have one. Food for thought.
Since it can't develop into a baby, and it puts the mother's life at risk, surgery is necessary, and that goes for the life starts at conception crowd.
The Bible specifically states that life begins at the first breath a baby takes. The end.
No, the "first breath" refers to Adam. How are you gonna quote a book you've never touched?
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The health of your teeth, or lack thereof, can cause heart disease. The bacteria that infect the gums and cause gingivitis and periodontitis also travel to blood vessels elsewhere in the body, where they cause blood vessel inflammation and damage.
If you are diabetic, and don't know it--or do, but have problems controlling your sugars, it can severely harm your teeth. On the flip side? Having bad teeth can severely affect your blood glucose as a diabetic. It can become a s****y cycle.
And yes--mentioned earlier, but if you get an infected tooth, that infection can travel to the brain or blood very fast.
And yet, teeth are still considered "luxury bones," with maintenance, cleaning, and dental care hardly ever being covered by insurance.
My very healthy paternal grandfather died of a heart attack after brushing his teeth. It's suspected poor oral hygiene knocked bacteria into his bloodstream. Or my grandma poisoned him. Either makes sense.
Yes, my SIL lost a very good friend that she knew since they were teens. He had bad teeth and never did anything about them. I don't know the details, but it is suspected it was from his teeth. Sepsis.
Load More Replies...When I rejoined civil society I had 14 cavities and an abscess on an impacted tooth. I also chipped one. Your teeth aren't simply for aesthetic purposes and we need to stop treating them as such.
My brother has had 2 open heart surgeries that resulted from a visit to the dentist. It's a bit more complicated than that, but basically he developed endocarditis and went in to heart failure. He was only 18 at the time.
A few years ago, I had an infection in one of my teeth. They said that if it wasn't removed, the infection would go to my heart and kill me. They said I had one week to live. Then they proceeded to wait two weeks to give me the surgery. Piece of advice: NEVER let your anesthesiologist give you Ketamine.
Until Medicare, healthcare for us old people in the US, consider teeth, eyes and hearing as part of health needs, I have to live with my broken tooth, severely in need of cleaning teeth and deaf right ear.
That's why we have so many issues with our teeth. Most can't afford a cleaning or filling when it's in the thousands. Even with insurance it's hundreds. It ridiculous.
My grandma went to the dentist once and he told her she had signs of having had at least one heart attack. I don’t know how he knew, but she got tested somehow and it was confirmed, she had had two and didn’t ever know it.
Andy Hallett, the actor who played Lorne in Angel, he died from a tooth infection that spread to his heart :(
Chest compressions are violent. Just let your 91 year old grandma go.
It will most likely crack a rib or sternum. And it's extremely hard to do it properly if you don't have someone to switch off with you to give your muscles a break. It's a tag team effort to perform CPR.
It’s the broken rib thing that has probably cost a few lives. People do CPR and then hear a bone break and stop because they’re afraid of hurting the person. They’re actively dying- and broken rib or sternum is the least of their problems
Load More Replies...I was told if you do cpr and don't hear bone breaking, your not doing it right.
Former medical professional (now on disability). That's mostly true. Not everyone gets broken bones, but nearly everyone. You simply have to do compressions THAT hard to move the blood throughout the circulatory system.
Load More Replies...Speaks from experience, CPR is painful as ... as is the aftermath. Cracked ribs and no one talks about the bruised diaphragm. God forbid you get the hiccups.
My brother passed away a couple months ago from multiple organ failure. While trying to keep him on life support for a few days to see if he could recover, they had broken most of his ribs doing resuscitations. We didn't want to put him through it anymore and had to let him go... he would have been 53 a couple weeks ago. My point is: it doesn't have to be someone 91 years old.
I'm extremely sorry for you and your family.
Load More Replies...I seem to recall reading that only 5% of those who had CPR live. If you’re at that point, you probably aren’t going to make it.
I've been CPR'd twice (during the same episode). Yes, they cracked ribs. Yes, I'm happy they didn't stop.
Load More Replies...Bad caption. CPR works just a percentage of the time, but it's vital to give it a try.
I think the point here is that if the issue is trauma, drowning, middle aged person with a witnessed collapse, etc then CPR is the right response but if an elderly person is in hospital and reached the end of life then prolonging death by a few days/weeks isn't dignified.
Load More Replies...I performed CPR on my Dad. It brought him back for a short time, but he ended up passing that night. I'm sure I broke no ribs on him.
And without access to an AED, CPR has an extremely low success rate (less than 10%)
A study by Johns Hopkins in 2016 cited that medical errors are probably the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA, following heart disease and cancer.
Errors were: Wrong Diagnosis. Incorrect dosage or wrong meds. Surgery errors and the biggest, poor communication between staff.
It is also thought that this study is also correct in the UK and EU.
Wrong diagnosis and poor communication is really unacceptable in this age of scientific and communication advancement. The problem lies with the systems and processes in place that have to be navigated to get a patient in front of the right specialist. The NHS in the UK is terrible for this. And I have no idea what the point of a GP (general practitioner) is anymore.
Doctors don't diagnose so much as they rule things out. Medical science isn't as advanced as we'd like to believe.
Load More Replies...I have no doubt. My blocked and necrotising intestine was diagnosed as menstrual cramps until I threw a tantrum and got a scan (and then surgery). And when I got my foot severely lacerated by a feral cat, the doctor initially didn’t want me to waste his time because I was a cat owner and “should know how to treat a little cat scratch”. Sir, this is down to the bone! One tantrum later and I got my stitches, antibiotics and tetanus shot.
I work at a dental clinic and I would like to add that first of all biology is unpredictable sometimes, also on occasions not even a CT scan can 100% accurately reveal what's inside a body, so changes during surgery occure. Also, patients are ignorant : they simply 'forget' to tell us about previous surgeries, for example, which is relevant to us, or about their allergies. Once a guy was prepared for OP under full narcosis. We ask several times about allergies and he goes, while on the table, 1 minute from being put under, : ' ohh, I'm allergic to soy' . !!!!! Propofol contains traces!!!!! BE HONEST WITH YOUR DOCTOR and tell them everything, because you're not a doctor's and you don't know what's relevant!
Because doctors and medical staff need to f*****g sleep. Imagine how many mistakes we "lay folk" make in a day, from typos to delivering the wrong beverage.
This has been repeatedly debunked. It was made up out of nowhere and is not true.
A little misleading, even with the included caveat. Their actual definition was : "Medical error has been defined as an unintended act (either of omission or commission) or one that does not achieve its intended outcome, the failure of a planned action to be completed as intended (an error of execution), the use of a wrong plan to achieve an aim (an error of planning), or a deviation from the process of care that may or may not cause harm to the patient"
If you include sepsis and hospital-acquired diseases (including but not limited to antibiotic-resistant diseases) then I'll believe you. Sepsis accounts for 20% of all global deaths.
Yes. I had sepsis induced organ failure due to a doctor prescribing 3 times the recommended dosage for an open wound on my leg that exposed my bone. Several days after finishing the medication I went into kidney and liver failure. When I got to the to the ICU I was accused of being a d**g addict. Because organs "don't just fail" and that "dialysis is no way to live your life". They then told me I likely had kidney necrosis and then said I likely had kidney cancer. I was in a quarantine room and people required hazmat suits to see me for over a week. They later decided it was a C Difficile infection despite 2 tests coming back negative. I had post sepsis syndrome for months after. Total nonsense.
Yes, miscommunication. I once stopped a surgeon from amputating my lower leg instead of performing the thyroidectomy I needed. I heard myself referred to by the name and treatment profile of another patient over the intercom shortly before I drifted off, and only just managed to tell them my name and say "thyroid". Doctors have saved or improved my life more than once, though, so I'm still just glad they exist!
Okay, they probably would've figured it out anyway, seeing that my leg was completely healthy. But it was still scary.
Load More Replies...Not necessarily a medical fact, but a reality check: Doctors don't have everything figured out, they are just human like the rest of us. Just like how us software developers search Google to troubleshoot something when we are stuck, they do too. Shows like Dr. House portray doctors as this infallible walking medical encyclopedia. It's all fiction. So, always be open to getting a second opinion if something isn't working.
Doctors don't diagnose. They eliminate possibilities. Sometimes. Truth is that medical science is not advanced as we'd like to think. My liver started bleeding spontaneously last year. Put me in the hospital for weeks. Nobody seems to know why this happened, what caused it, or whether it will happen again. The surgeon literally shrugged and told me, "eh, it's weird. We'll probably never figure it out. Best of luck to you!" It was very similar to that awful day as a child I realized adults don't know everything and, in fact, are just winging it on a daily basis.
I remember recently seeing an X post that was someone who had just found out that their doctor used Google to help them make a diagnosis or see what a treatment was (or something, I don't remember exactly). And I just thought, well, yeah, of course they do that. Google and YouTube are actually fantastic research and learning tools. The difference between a regular person using Google to research something and my doctor doing it is the doctor knows the difference between the American Journal of Medicine and www.bullshitpseudoscience.com
Load More Replies...Dr. House was always wrong a few times before finding the right diagnosis. That's why episodes lasted an hour instead of 10 minutes.
You can't compare a TV doctor with a practicing doctor. They have to be wrong on TV to increase the drama and keep you coming back to view their commercials.
Load More Replies...I realize this isn’t quite the point but: I’ve been watching “House” again and while they do tend to show many of the characters as knowing a lot of conditions and their causes (because it moves the plot along), they most certainly don’t portray them as “infallible”. They make tons of mistakes and misdiagnoses along the way to solving the mystery.
My doctor told me to 'own my disease' - in this case diabetes type 2. He told me that no-one will know things affect me - as different people react differently. He was a brilliant GP - he would give me a choice of different d***s (anti inflammatories) and suggest that I research them an choose the one I thought would suit me best - and would change it after a couple of months if it wasn't
I had an awsome dr like house! Thanks for saving my a*s dr walczyk!
Medical science is like any science - it increases the things we know we don't know. (Oops, Donald Rumsfeld has entered the chat.)
Dr. Mike on Youtube mentioned that they have their own search engine and database where they can look up symptons and treatment methodes if they aren't sure what to do
To be fair, Dr. House tends to get it wrong twice before giving orders for unethical practices and finally getting it right.
That your body fights off 10,000 events that would cause cancer daily.
Gets better: The body tells damaged cells to commit suicide, a natural process called apoptosis. Cancer shows up if cells lose the ability to receive said signal due to damaged DNA segments
Yes..but...my Doc asked if I wanted a medicine to help cure my plaque psoriasis. " So, you're asking a 40 year smoker if he wants to take a medicine that weakens his immune system?".."Good point"
Load More Replies...Evolution: you cure cancer! Humans: well then i'm going to make it worse! >8(
Cat scratch fever is real, and can be deadly. I know someone who spent 2 weeks in hospital from it and it was his cat.
More often cat bite than scratch, but yeah. Bites that penetrate skin stand a ~100% chance of infection if not treated immediately.
Not accurate, I've been bitten and scratched countless times that drew blood and I've never developed an infection. Never treated them with anything either.
Load More Replies...I had it in high school. Only had a couple symptoms, feeling like c**p and a swollen lymph node in front of my ear. Just went away on its own. This was mid 1970s.
My husband had it as a child and almost died, depends on the strength of your immune system, it didn't help that he didn't tell anyone a strange car had scratched him because he didn't want to get in trouble
Load More Replies...I had to find new homes for my cats, Merlin and Salem, after I had my spleen removed because of risk of infections from cat scratches or bites.
I always thought it was a great song...til one of my kids actually got it! It caused lockjaw and was very painful. Felt so bad for my teen, but thankfully it was diagnosed quickly & taken care of.
Chainsaws were originally invented for childbirth.
Vibrators were invented because doctors were manually massaging women to hysterical paroxysm (orgasm) to cure their “hysteria” and they got too lazy to do it by hand.
Is it wrong that I'm not surprised by either of these things, in the slightest?
https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/medical-vibrators-treatment-female-hysteria#:~:text=Since%20society%20and%20physicians%20of,effectively%20reduce%20symptoms%20of%20hysteria.
Load More Replies...At least it wasn't the other way around. "I will now stimulate you with this chain saw. Please tell me when your hysteria is gone." Or "This vibrator will surely make childbirth easier. Pleasure beats pain."
I wouldn't be surprised if some company came up with a toy chainsaw for that purpose already...
Load More Replies...And a modern style of the same chainsaw is still used in areas where there is difficult birth through narrow passage and modern surgery is unavailable. If they didn't use, the mother would barely be able to walk.
Would that be a human mother or maybe could we be talking about veterinary interventions?
Load More Replies...I have a vibrator from the 1930s with its original instruction pamphlet. It recommends it for the relief of "pelvic congestion." I think that's the most wonderful euphemism for horniness I've seen.
Whoever said lazy men never did anything for women just got proven wrong here...
Their hands probably got really cramped up because of how popular the “treatment” was.
Victorian lady: hey, I have hysteria, better visit the doctor for that super treatment!
Load More Replies...The chainsaw used for medicine was incredibly different to the ones used for trees though. It's like comparing a scalpel to an axe.
Sadly, Gourdeous is right... They literally sawed away a section of the woman's pubic bone to widen the baby's exit route. Without anaesthesia
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The man who developed the pap smear did so with the help of his wife, who received pap smears almost daily for 21 years.
>Volunteering as an experimental subject: For 21 years, Mary allowed her husband to sample her cervical cells and vaginal fluids almost daily, which he would then smear on glass slides and examine under a microscope.
According to the Wikipedia article, she volunteered because he lacked access to patients due to not being a clinician. She was also quoted as saying " There was no other option but for me to follow him inside the lab, making his way of life mine" and also decided not to have children so she could continue collaborating with her husband.
Load More Replies...His name was Georgios Nikolaou Papanikolaou and his wife was Andromachi "Mary" Mavrogeni Papanikolaou. Apparently, his wife eventually encouraged her friends to also provide him with samples for their research. She also continued his work at the Papanicolaou Cancer Research Institute after his death on February 19,1962. She died on in October,1982. Sounds like a very dedicated wife and a power couple.
The type of power couple we need as inspiration, not these d.i.c.k.s that grace the pages of magazines
Load More Replies...Wow, thanks to Mary's willingness and dedication to helping her husband with the experiment, so many women's and even babies lives have been saved. True hero.
So does that mean they didn't have sèx for 21 years? Cuz they always tell you to abstain from sèx for 3 days before a pap smear..
She did decide not to have children so she could continue collaborating with her husband.
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There are so many wild things living in the microbiome of a human's skin. Demodex are a great example; little mites that live near human hair follicles. They look horrific and they feed off of sebum, sweat, dead skin etc.
Many things are localized too; the things living in your eyelash follicles are not the same as the ones living on your elbows. We're a whole universe, and even our skin is colonized by bizarre little f*****s
Edit; a lovely little quote I found online, about Demodex
"When you sleep, the mites come out of your skin’s pores, mate, then go back into your skin to lay eggs."
Sexy.
Than may I humbly suggest in future you avoid reading posts with titles like "disturbing medical facts"?
Load More Replies...Hahaha!!! Your comment made my night. I'm still giggling.
Load More Replies...Lying in bed reading bored panda and I've just unlocked a new night mare 😴
Now, I'm all squirmy/antsy and itchy, this post should have came with a warning or some shìt. I know there are microscopic bugs and bacterias all over us and everything, literally but I never want to think about that. There's a reason we can't see them fùckers, with just our naked eye.
Think about how gross we'd all look without these little guys eating up all our dead skin.
This makes me want to be like my old aunt with her astringent face cream on at night. I bet there was no mite nookie happening on her skin.
There is no cure for rabies unless you catch it immediately and get injections. Once symptoms show it is too late and the person will die .
There are, to date, two cases when patients survived after showing symptoms. Better prognosis than getting your head cut off, but not by much.
There are actually 3 from the US. (I swore it was just one, but then looked it up). https://abcnews.go.com/Health/california-girl-us-survive-rabies/story?id=13830407
Load More Replies...And sometimes the symptoms take WEEKS to show up. That's why you get the shots whether you know the animal has rabies or not.
Unless you're on MEDI-CAL cuz then they don't care if you die. What they did to my mom infuriates me. She ended up with permanent nerve damage in her foot and leg. She now needs a wheelchair but of course they don't want to pay for one. Shots weren't even offered and I had to bring it up. It was a feral cat. So this is not actually true
Load More Replies...Rabies is absolutely terrifying. Viruses are absolutely terrifying. Ebola and Rabies have always made my heart race in fear.
Yep. Got bitten by a confirmed feral rabies dog. Started vaccination right away and it turned out fine. But took my time to fly home as I didnt trust the local healthcare
I read that at least the cure is down to one injection instead of the painful series it used to be.
It's still multiple shots - they want to be very sure - but it's not a giant needle in your stomach like it was in an old children's book I read.
Load More Replies...This is upsetting, while there is a vaccine it isn't one to be generally given to the public. You have to seek it out.
A small girl in my area survived rabies. She had to go to the nearest big city, 300 miles away, for treatment. Got a literal parade when she came home!!
I read about this, the survival rate was only a couple people.... Two. And one of the final symptoms is a fear of water - it's that it's like drinking glass. Not the way I'd want to die...
I read this after making that prion comment (I start at the bottom of these lists), so sorry for the accidental Captain Obvious moment 😖
80% of amputations are due to diabetes.
Watch your health, people.
I’m a retired nurse. I saw lots of non-healing diabetic wounds. Capillaries (the smallest blood vessels - the ones that feed the body cells) are measured in micrometers AKA microns, which is one millionth of a meter. The interior diameter of capillaries averages 8 micrometers. A high glucose level causes your blood to literally become syrup, which cannot pass through capillaries. No blood flow to some cells those cells will die and become food for bacteria. All it takes is one tiny break in the skin, and the bacteria will be feasting. I had several patients who ended up losing a foot or a leg because they nicked their skin while cutting toenails.
The little crystallized structure of the sugar also cuts the endothelium. Leading to scarring. In the tiniest vessels that amount of scarring closes them off. Which is why diabetes causes small vessel disease.
Load More Replies...My 90 year old Dad always said with diabetes, once they start cutting they don't stop till they get to your heart. That was how it was back in the 1930's.
My grandma lost both her feet/lower legs from this. They hoped to be able to just do stents but couldn't. She ended up dying within a month anyway. She controlled her diabetes for a long time, but dementia and being in a nursing home meant she wasn't staying active as much. She started to have problems around her toenails and even the podiatrist access she had couldn't stop the problems spreading for long.
Would part of the reason for the high percentage be that the need for other forms of amputation is becoming rarer?
Quite possibly, and now you've piqued my curiosity
Load More Replies...Not diabetes. Uncontrolled, constant high sugar levels. Keep them down and you never have an issue, as my partner did not, type 1 for 52 years.
That not what my endocrinologist told me, he said that even though good glucose levels are better it is no guarantee you don’t get diabetic complications because you are getting insulin that isn’t made by your body. Your partner started with checking his urine to control his glucose levels, just like me, and that wasn’t accurate at all.
Load More Replies...As a former orthopedic nurse, I can't even begin to estimate the amount of patients I had due to complications from diabetes. So many amputations, but for years before that patients usually go through extensive, painful and multi-times daily wound care treatments. It's not pleasant. Do your best to take care of your health.
If you have diabetes, go to the doctor at the first sign of any sores or cuts, even if they look harmless.
Load More Replies...Is this for US, for industrialised countries or the whole world? So many countries with landmines, all those amputees just in Ukraine for example...yes, high sugar levels are dangerous. But 80%?
That your immune system can go rogue and just randomly start eating things you need to stay alive when there's no foreign invaders to fight against.
This is called an Auto Immune Response. It can happen randomly or you can have an Auto Immune Disease. I have, diagnosed, FIVE autoimmune diseases. Also, fun fact once you have one, it's easier to get more
Went to bed one evening feeling great. Woke up next morning with chronic pain and unable to move other than reaching phone to call for ambulance. Polymyalgia Rheumatica. No known cause. No known cure. Just a number of medications that could treat the symptoms (prednisolone, methotrexate and hydrochloroquine)
When I was 2 I developed nephrotic syndrome. Essentially, my body just started attacking my kidneys. No family history, just random. I thankfully survived after about 3 years of heavy immuno suppression via special shots. Now, it’s like nothing happened except I have general autoimmune problems like food sensitivities and prone to inflammation. Very strange and of course super scary to think about
When you die, the bacteria that used to help digest your food, now digest you….
Makes sense, all these microphages/bacteria do is eat, which helps us digest the food we consume. If you die, there's no more food for them to eat up, so they move on to whatever else they can, they can't differentiate between tissues/flesh.
I think the bigger issue is that the body's normal defenses are no longer keeping the gut microbiome in check.
Load More Replies...To be fair, cleaning up is important - Imagine a world were we weren't biodegradable
There was a very long period of history where trees existed and weren't biodegradable, hence coal. The first fungi that evolved to digest the lignin in trees emerged some 30 million years after the trees appeared.
Load More Replies...In America, when you die, bacteria eat you...but in Russia when you die, bacteria still eat you, nice try, bacteria don't know what country they're in!
Load More Replies... That doctors don’t know everything and you can go years without getting a diagnosis while being in unspeakable pain. I’m going through this right now.
19 months of this. I can’t handle another few more. How can something that hurts this bad and feel like a broken rib not show up or be known after almost two years of tests? At the end of my rope here.
I see you... I hear you OP. Same except going on almost 20 years. Pain has been getting progressively worse since adolescence.
Please look up costochondritis, it's inflammation of the cartilage and surrounding tissues around your ribs, and it's often missed for many years. Acupuncture and physical therapy can help, as well as rib head adjustments, which are best done by a myofascial release specialist. Best of luck to you!
Also look at low dose Naltrexone (LDN, 4.5 mg or less), for it reduces inflammation and therefore cuts a lot of pain down, which may help until you can find a diagnosis. It's miraculous. ... Google it & acquaint yourself with LDN usage & studies before talking with a Dr about it because most don't seem to be familiar with it yet. Don't let doctors unfamiliar with this usage get away with saying that "Naltrexone is for addiction treatment," either: that's its traditional use with a dosage 10 times higher than LDN. LDN has to be ordered from a compound pharmacy.
Load More Replies...If it's that bad, the pain, as well as no reason for that pain? Check out Fibromyalgia. I'm sorry, it's been 22 years for me so I can't offer more than a gentle, pain free internet hug. Check out Reddit for support from those who are in pain or disabled.
That was my thought too. I spent 13 years in pain, slowly getting worse, but it wasn't until my mum was diagnosed (after pain for multiple decades) that it was ever taken seriously.
Load More Replies...Hey OP I have fibro and also suffer from Costochondritis please look it up as it seems to fit your description x
The medical system is at fault here. In the UK NHS, the protocol has become more important than the patient; a tick box exercise and meanwhile the patient continues to suffer....
My father's doctor told him that the excruciating headaches he was experiencing were all from stress. In less than a week, dad was dead from a brain aneurism.
I'm going to go out on a huge limb and guess OP and many of the missed medical stories respondents are predominantly female...
Fibromyalgia is no joke. But sadly, apart from judicious use of pain relief there's really nothing they could do anyway, so it's sometimes not worth pushing and pushing for a diagnosis, you just need to learn to live with it, I'm afraid. (Speaking as a non-diagnosed FM sufferer).
Wrong. Diagnosis matters. For research. And with the advent of monoclonals and biological, treatment advancement is very real. Plus going undiagnosed could hide other causalities such as rheumatoid arthritis or other autoimmune issues.
Load More Replies...Yep. For me it was several things. 1st was my gallbladder, started at 17, took till I was 30 before a Nurse Practitioner listen to me and discovered my gallbladder was so full of stones it was near bursting. Then it was my kidney. Was told for years kidney stones don't cause pain. I had a 6mm kidney stone lodged in the tissue of my right kidney and a 7 mm cist and once again it was a Nurse Practintioner who diagnosed me and then there was the missed fibromyalgia, psoriatic arthritis and peripheral neuropathy that took years to get diagnosed.
At any moment anyone can just randomly drop dead from a brain aneurysm. It’s more or less common for certain people, but it can literally happen to anyone at any age at any time.
There was one girl who went to my high school and this happened 😢 She was only a freshman
My mom's cousin had a brain aneurysm. She was an ER nurse and managed to get herself to the hospital and survived. She died of another brain aneurysm a few years later. The saddest part of this is she left behind two German Shepherds that my mom ended up taking in. Nina (dog) never got over the loss of her mom and died shortly after my mom took her in, and Gunther (dog) was then mourning the loss of his mom and sister. :(
Fun fact: Aneurysm will be mention in any disturbing medical fact compilation
My 40 yr old daughter had a stroke at work. Thank God she works for doctors as they recognized this before she got in her car!! It's called an AVM and people don't know they're born with it. 3-5% of people have this and don't know it!! Three brain surgeries later! Back to work, thank God!!
We had a woman at work, lead person on steel floor, drop like her strings had been cut. Very sad, she was a great leader and a hoot.
And there's no way to detect them without regular imaging. They don't cause symptoms until it's too late.
This isn't entirely true. While it's true that most people don't have symptoms, many people do in fact have warning symptoms before rupture.
Load More Replies...Why? No pain. No lingering illness. No escalating medical and surgical interventions. No debilitating decline. No disfiguring illness. No wailing and gnashing of teeth at your bedside. When you gotta go, go.
Load More Replies...My grandpa died in 2023 while at work due to an aneurysm. My grandma had one back when I was 10/11 & survived.
Cold sores can cause inflammation of your brain. It’s called herpetic encephalitis and is likely to cause permanent brain damage even with treatment. It can also be caused by shingles, so getting the shingles vaccine is more important than you think.
Uh oh, someone said the magic word... vaccines. Gird your loins, folks! Ignorance is so deadly.
At least in this case it selectively targets stupid people.
Load More Replies...I had shingles at 35 and my insurance still won't cover the vaccine til I'm 50+, at this point I'm considering just paying for it out of pocket bc that was a lousy time.
The shingles vaccine isn't covered at all in Canada, and even though it's expensive, still worth it to not have to suffer shingles. I'm so sorry you did, I cannot fathom the pain you've been through. :(
Load More Replies...You can prevent that by using anti viral pills every time your lip tingles. Cold sores alao seems to be connected to Alzheimers and other issues.
Years ago I had a neighbor whose young daughter was blind, deaf and entirely unable to do anything for herself. She was born perfectly healthy and one day kissed by someone with a cold sore. My neighbor was an amazing woman and mother. She also found time to help me after just having a baby on my own. Actually my whole community circled the wagons for me. I guess LDS folk aren't bad after all.
When I was a kid, they were called cold sores or fever blisters. I've had them since I was very young. I had many breakouts as a teenager. Nowadays, it's rare for me to have a breakout. There's also medication that, if you take it right away, prevents the little buggers from forming.
And Valtrex at the first sign of a cold sore. It will resolve overnight; within 24-48 hours at the latest.
If you get nasal cold sores it may be a good idea to get put on antivirals.
Cold sores are caused by the Epstein-Barr virus which leaves you open to such fun things as mononucleosis, Guillain-Barre syndrome, multiple sclerosis and several cancers. No vaccine yet, but they are working on it. As soon as it becomes available, I will be taking it. As someone with MS, please believe me - you don't want it and the vaccine is the only way to prevent it.
Nope. Google much? Wikipedia? Reading comprehension is a thing.
Load More Replies...It didn't give you shingles. Your pre-vaccine exposure to chickenpox gave you shingles. No vaccine in the history of ever has been 100% effective, and you were just one of the small number of unlucky people who didn't have enough of an immune response for the vaccine to prevent shingles.
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When you have surgery and your organs have to be scooped out to access something else, they don’t put them back where they were. They just kinda put it all back in and our organs just shift back to where they were. I learned this fact when I went to stand up after having a csection.
Yeah, intestines are always moving around so they just find their approximate place again. I watched an IBS surgery video once and the texture of the intestines was what I would describe as "gelatinous," so I refer to intestines as gelatinous eels. Always wriggling. Gelatinously.
Load More Replies...yeah....nope Not a lot of scooping out of organs going on! Organs are connected and supported by a network of vessels and fascia. Surgeons move things aside, sometimes externalizing, but always doing their best to disturb as little as possible. With some exceptions (like the rear of the spine), most surgical targets can be accessed pretty directly from the incision. Yes, a c-section can you leave you feeling a little discombobulated, but that's largely because the baby has vacated the premises!
I wondered about that, because your organs are connected to nerves and blood vessels and other things, and you can't let them get tangled up.
Load More Replies...Might I suggest visiting a cadaver lab? Seeing how the abdominal organs are secured in the body would help with understanding this. They're anchored but have some wiggle room, which allows for bodily mobility, reduces organ rupture from trauma, and other important functions.
I'm about to experience this myself, in a couple of weeks. Prostate cancer. During surgery, they pump you full of carbon dioxide to move the organs out of the way, so they can get to the prostate to remove it. I'll be up & walking hours after surgery just so gravity can do it's thing & let the organs slide down to where they're supposed to be.
The gas is to create a space where one doesn't currently exist. Getting up and moving is less to get your organs into position, and more to get the gas out.
Load More Replies...I’m curious what OP means. I’m not sure I felt my organs were in a different place after c-section. Giant wound aside, I just felt like I had given birth. Wondering what sensations I overlooked now
The only organ scooped out in a caesarean is the uterus and it is sitting on top of all the abdominal contents at that stage of pregnancy
They take out your uterus as well. I was told during my last c-section that they had taken out my uterus to check it for problems and would just "tuck it back inside" in a moment. Didn't make me feel very good at the time.
Load More Replies...ADHD symptoms are heavily influenced by estrogen levels, and yet ADHD was not studied in girls/women until 2017.
I’m guessing they mean ‘how ADHD presents in female patients’?
Most test subjects where male, for a lot of research in fact. So They work with the assumption that the male symptoms are the normal and that females present the same way. When in fact both genders have very different symptoms. But without doing more research on the female population with ADHD they first need to find them, which is made harder by only looking at male symptoms and the fact women can present their ADHD at a later stage of life, past when men tend to show symptoms.
Load More Replies...I am male and that did me no favors. My ADHD wasn't diagnosed until nursing school. I present like a female, sit in chair and daydream etc Again, because they nearly only studied men with classic male symptoms... women and people like myself were under studied and under diagnosed.
I didn't even know daydreaming all day was a thing other people did until my thirties and I had even studied psychology at Uni. Not once mentioned as a symptom of anything. This is why I didn't know I had it until my kids were diagnosed.
Load More Replies...I'm certain this is why my mum's ADHD wasn't diagnosed until she reached menopause, because she was able to mask more easily until the hormones changed. I wouldn't call this a disturbing medical fact though, more just annoying/disappointing but understandable, because they just didn't see/understand how it could present differently for females until then.
Me too - it got so bad after menopause, but it explained so much. Also late diagnosis for women of our generation and older is common because woman present differently, so as kids it was never a consideration.
Load More Replies...I was diagnosed in 1987. Week of testing. Thankfully the US military allowed girls to be tested.
Okay this also confuses me because I was diagnosed in 1996 as a girl. Does that mean I presented "boy symptoms"?
Load More Replies...Wasn't studied? 🤔 How was I diagnosed with it as a girl in 1996? Did they just base it on male studies?
erm...quite probably. Let me guess, you have hyperactive?
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Not sure how unknown it is, but at any given time without warning your uterus can just fall out. And unless it’s fully dangling outside of you, the doctors will just tell you to try to shove it back in there.
I have seen it in cattle plenty of times, and you're right, it's not a pleasant sight.
Load More Replies...For those who don't know, the reason that removal of the uterus is called a hysterectomy is *literally* hysterical.
Load More Replies...Prior to 1972, women were banned from running marathons because men thought that their uteruses would fall out.
which also tells you a lot about the state of healthcare for women in the us prior to and post 1972
Load More Replies...Certain things increase the likelihood of this! Hostile uteri seem to run in my family.
In France, new mothers are schooled in pelvic floor exercises. This can help prevent prolapse. There are exercise programs available.
Saw it in several Dr. Pol episodes. Never thought that it could happen to humans too!
Can I give two? They’re disturbing to me.
1)The prevalence of middle ear infections in children from 0-6 y/o.
Please don’t ignore this. Have hearing tested annually, the impact on schooling, speech, milestones etc. is not to be taken lightly.
2) Untreated hearing losses, under stimulated brain possibly leading to accelerated risks of early onset memory loss, dementia etc. The worse the hearing the higher the risk. Just get your hearing tested annually, you’re never to young for a hearing loss man.
I had tons of ear infections as a kid. Medication wrecked my 6 year molars, have had 3/4 of them drilled. I am also uncertain if my right ear canal is messed up as a result of the infections or if it being oddly shaped made them more likely - it's very narrow and sensitive: stimulating a nerve at the base of my neck itches all the way up in my ear, and it itches horrendously in my ear if I have tonsil stones on that side.
External ear canal infections (otitis externa)are easily prevented by mixing a 50/50 mixture of isopropyl alcohol and white vinegar and putting a few drops in the ears after getting any water in the ears. As a daily lap swimmer, this has prevented outer ear infection for years. These ear aches are not the same as middle ear infections that many kids get in childhood.
I constantly had ear infections and tonsillitis as a kid. My ears didn't drain water, and I was always swimming. They say not to use cotton buds, but once I started using them to dry my inner ears out...that's a fun sentence...both of the infections disappeared...the medications damaged the enamel on my teeth, and my hearing is affected
A childhood friend of ours got an ear infection at age 6 which spread to his brain and killed him. We still think of you and miss you, Melusi. <3
I had it at age 10. "Chronic Otitis Media." My mastoid bone was literally rotting away. I would get this pus like substance, stunk too, coming from my right ear. It never hurt though. It was found when I had a bad earache in my left ear, Mom put drops and cotton in it and when the cotton was removed, there was blood on it. Mom panicked, took me to an ENT who said, eh, it's really nothing, however, his right ear is so bad that if we don't get him to surgery, the infection in his mastoid and inner ear is gonna eat right through to his brain. Yup 1968, Radical Mastoidectomy. My right ear sits slightly lower as they cut my ear and laid it on the side of my face to go in. Drainage tubes, antibiotics, stitches the whole lot. When the tube came out, it left a hole in my eardrum so I had to have a skin graft. Twice! First on didn't take. I'm kinda tone deaf in my right ear but I can hear. Most unplesant experience.
Load More Replies...Agreed. My granddaughter had chronic ear infections. It was interesting to hear her talk, as she often use words that don't exist. After the tubes were in place, her vocabulary soared, and she hasn't had ear infections. She is now nine. I have some hearing loss and got hearing aids. My hearing isn't bad, but the aids opened the world back up for me.
Avoid water in young kids ears. They can't drain it the same way adults can.
My son's had 3 ear infections back-to-back-to-back before he was a year old. The pediatrician said that it concerned him because it was outside cold/flu season, so he sent us to an ENT. Fortunately, whatever the problem was solved itself and he hasn't had an infection since (he's almost 6 now), but we were all concerned that he'd need surgery or lose his hearing as a result because there's a family history of hearing problems on my side (my sister, my mom, and my great-grandfather all have/had 60%+ hearing loss).
Oxygen poisoning is a thing. Too much O2 in your body can kill you.
But don't worry, you won't die from breathing too hard. It's mostly an issue for divers and other people who breathe pressurized breathing gases.
Breathing faster doesn't increase the oxygen levels in the lungs by much - it's 16% oxygen on exhale, and 21% in the atmosphere. However, breathing fast can lower the CO2 levels in the lungs by a higher percent and that can mess up breathing, which is why happens with hyperventilating. So you either up the CO2 in your lungs by doing something like breathing into a paper bag, or you faint, and your breathing goes back to normal.
I've always wondered why breathing into a bag helped when you're hyperventilating, since obviously you're not getting extra oxygen that way, so your explanation made perfect sense. And you wrote it so clearly, it made it easy to understand. Thank you for the information.
Load More Replies...Hypercapnia (High CO2) can actually kill you if you have too much oxygen. Average humans breathe not when their oxygen gets low, but when CO2 gets high. Which is why you can hold your breath underwater a little longer if you expel some air. In people with things like COPD their oxygen levels are so poor in knocks out the CO2 mechanism. So they breathe only when oxygen gets low. If you turn up their oxygen too high they stop breathing. And CO2 gets very high. This is why oxygen is prescribed at a certain level. So you don't kill yourself making yourself too oxygenated.
Most people can't hold their breath nearly as long as physiology would allow so exhaling partially may help psychologically, but because it reduces gas volume but not the O2:CO2 ratio of the gas in your lungs it won't reduce CO2 levels in the blood.
Load More Replies...Keep it in mind when time machine is invented and you want to travel to see dinosaurs
The bends isn't caused by O2 and has nothing to do with oxygen toxicity. The bends is a result of having too much of some gas other than O2 dissolved in the body so that it comes out of solution when pressure is reduced by ascending. Normally the gas that is responsible is nitrogen because air is 78% N2, but any gas that's inhaled and not metabolized will accumulate in the body's tissues when the body is subjected to higher pressures.
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Not a human example (probably), but sometimes cows, goats and other animals get pregnant but instead of giving birth to a normal lamb/kid/calf it gives birth to an *"amorphous globosus"*, a spherical mass of flesh with an outer layer of skin with hair or fur, and the inside a jumbled mess of guts and tissues and sometimes teeth. They never have brains or spinal cords though, so they're always stillborn and nonviable.
Thank you, you typing this actually stopped me from googling it!
Load More Replies...Good to know though that it means the baby was never conscious to experience being like that
A street kitty adopted my daughter and a few weeks later gave birth - 3 normal adorable little poppets and of these globs
Humans give birth to these. I forget what they're called. But it's not a fertilized egg. It's a type of ovarian cyst that can have hair, teeth, skin.
Load More Replies...Yes, it happens in humans, too, and is often the reason for miscarriages. Anne Boleyn probably had one of these; it disgusted the people around her so much they accused her of witchcraft in addition to adultery, so Henry VIII had more "reason" to chop off her head.
Molar pregnancies are non-viable pregnancies that do not produce a human. They developing pregnancy is more like a tumor growth and, as some people have noted, some parts of humans such as hair and teeth have been found in that growth at times. These often lead to cancer as well. Probably any mammal could have this kind of thing happen since it develops from a fertilized egg.
Everyone who's had to deal with a brand new baby's had to deal with it, but a baby's first poop (meconium) is very thick and sticky and hard to wipe off. What most people don't know is what it's made of.
Around halfway through a pregnancy, a fetus develops hair called lanugo all over their body. They shed most to all of it before they're full term. That hair is shed directly into the amniotic fluid, which is then ingested by the fetus, and (hopefully) stays in their intestines until birth or right after.
So, basically, fetuses eat their own hair, and since amniotic fluid is swallowed and excreted, you could say they're swimming in their own pee.
Also, chainsaws were invented for childbirth.
I'm okay with the first three paragraphs. The last one: No, no, no, no, NO! Was it ever used for that purpose? If so - how?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zPlk7drac&t=2s (from Qi, a very funny British quiz show just in case Pandas think it's a link to something gruesome!)
Load More Replies...I found it easy to clean up. I didn't know the whole part of the first poop. All that we were told is that it's like black tar. In Prenatal class they got us practicing diaper changes. I just took the diaper, folded it over to wipe it up and it cleaned up in one swipe. Maybe she just had a less messy one than some. But the other poops after, yikes.
Unless you have a brat like I did and she has a bowel movement in the womb and then aspirate it and spend time in the NICU. She came out making me worry. Lol
A woman who had just given birth heard her medical team mention "meconium." She thought it was such a pretty-sounding word she named her baby that . . . .
Some hospitals allow medical students to practice on patients who are under anesthesia. Without the patient's knowledge/active consent.
It is completely f****d up. They hide technical consent in overly broad terminology in the papers you sign when you go in for an operation.
They argue that they do it this way because it is hard to get volunteers for students to practice very invasive internal exams.
We're not practicing anything unsupervised in med school. The med student goes in on the cases but most of what they do is retract (holding certain things in place). If you go to a teaching hospital there's a very good chance the resident will be operating on you. But again, it's supervised. The attending is present.
I don’t think it’s students operating that is the issue. It’s students doing a pelvic exam whilst women are under anaesthesia for something completely unrelated. As Ladedah says legislation has been introduced this year to prevent this, but it’s horrific that it’s been considered acceptable for so long https://www.sciencenews.org/article/pelvic-exam-informed-consent-guidelines
Load More Replies...At one point paying prostitutes was a way of doing that. You can guess how that goes over these days
Load More Replies...For specification, they mean performing PELVIC EXAMS on unconscious female patients without their knowledge during an unrelated procedure.
Hidden under the clause of "other procedures the doctor deems medically necessary". It was justified by them saying it was medically necessary for students s to know how to perform pelvic exams before going to they enter internship.
Load More Replies...I get treatment for my colitis at a university hospital and have the option to sign a paper that allows my data, samples and medical procedures to be used for training - or to not sign it. Ultrasounds are always very fun because they explain a lot about anatomy during these
They're welcome to do as they please with me. What I'll never know will never bother me.
I had a student doctor cut the wrong organ during my gall bladder removal....and I said no to student doctors....no permanent damaged, just extra pain and a longer stay in hospital...thankfully I'm not in America.
Sepsis is a horrible way to die . Seen it never wanna see it again . Poor bastard had horrible death and nothing could be done about it.
My mom died from sepsis from a bedsore on her tailbone/butt area. I had to 'call it' when she coded...it was not easy, but the right thing to do. Her body was literally failing itself.
❤ I feel weird liking your comment. I can't even imagine. I'm very sorry you had to do that.
Load More Replies...By brother had sepsis not that long ago. Minor sor that got worse in just a day or two but looked necrotic. Fortunately he knew a surgeon who told him to get to the hospital ASAP. Within a few hours they got him IV antibiotics and excised the infection tissue. He survived but it could have gone the other way very quickly. Don’t wait if you see something like this. Get help immediately.
Humans are kinder to their old and/or ailing pets than we are to other humans.
i'm still here because my son was stubborn and forced me to go to the e.r. only to be diagnosed with sepsis following an outpatient procedure. he came over to check on me and apparently i was not making sense and had a raging fever. was in hospital for over a week. dr later said an hour or two more and they probably wouldn't have been able to do anything for me. normally i would have brushed it off as something just following a procedure but not any more.
my sister has sepsis from a kidney infection. It was so scary. She was in the hospital for weeks and barely remembers any of it. My husband at one time had active covid, respiratory failure, kidney failure, and sepsis. Somehow he survived it after a long coma.
I really, really, really wish you hadn't shared that. Now my dad's death hurts my heart much, much worse than it did before. Fortunately for me, I only caught the first sentence of your post before panic-scrolling down past it, but that sentence was bad enough. The understanding that my dad died relatively peacefully has been one of the only things that have comforted me a little since I lost him in November of last year. ... I guess I should've known better than to read this page.
My partner died from sepsis two years ago, he was a diabetic and had big ulcers on his legs due to lymphoma and other things
The eyelash mite lives mainly on the human eyelash and is an 8 legged parasite that eats skin and oil. They stay hidden in the hair follicles during the day and emerge at night to eat, lay eggs and excrete waste. And that is why you should wash your face in the morning.
Now I will never skip washing my face in the mornings!
Load More Replies...Eyelash mites (Demodex) are a normal part of your microbiome and should not be feared. Like the majority of your microbiome, they are doing a service for your bodily functions. The only issues that occur with them are if you have too many.
Damn, I guess I should start washing my face more. I feel like a filthy pig now.
Prions.
Edit- prions are misfolded proteins that cause other proteins to misfold in your body and it causes cell death. They affect the brain and aren't curable. They are also extremely hard to destroy. A few prion diseases are:
Mad Cow Disease
Kuru
Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease
Fatal Familial Insomnia (nightmare fuel)
Chronic Wasting Disease.
No, they're not. Mad cow or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) is usually acquired though ingestion of contaminated beef, CJD can be inherited, result from a spontaneous protein abnormality, or be the result of eating prion contaminated neural tissue. They are NOT the same thing.
Load More Replies...Fatal familial insomnia (as its name would suggest) is heavily influenced by genetics. If your parent(s) have the gene and development, then there is a chance that you have the gene and could develop the condition in your later years as well
Prions aren't only misfolded proteins - Prions are proteins that are responsible to protect nerve dense areas (like the brain) from toxins and to some degree radiation. They are stick formed and usually harmless. They become lethal if they fold, with the dangerous thing being that folded prions will force healthy prions to also fold
40 years ago I worked reprocessing surgical equipment. Infection control didn't want to discus prions. A coworker brought some dripping wet neuro instruments used on a Creutzfeldt–Jakob patient to the clean room, slapped them down scattering droplets everywhere, and reported that the OR team wanted them autoclaved. Which does nothing to deactivate prions. Frightening.
Not all prions affect the brain; some affect the metabolic processes we depend on for life. They are extremely difficult to treat and somewhat infectious depending on what part of the body they are affecting. The current thought with regard to these diseases noted above is that many of them are the same thing but labeled with various names - Kuru, Mad Cow, Creutzfeldt-Jakob, Sheep scrapie which are all prion diseases of the brain.
Kuru is a fasciinating disorder, found only among cannibals in Papua-New Guinea. It was unknown until the 1750's, after contact with the Europeans. There was a tradition of eating the brain in dead relatives and others, which propagated. It's been said that the disease was introduced by a missionary with Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. They boiled him up in a pot - but he was a friar! (joke, but the rest is true).
Kuru is a weird one, direct descendants of victims have immunity from it afterwards
Rabies too. Though fortunately, there's a vaccine for it. But once you show symptoms, it's too late...
The X-Files did an episode about a town of cannibals who ate a guy with CJ disease and they all caught it. The producers wanted an icky disease that people wouldn't know about, but just after they filmed the episode, the outbreak of Mad Cow happened in Britain. So by the time the episode aired, everyone knew it was a prion disease!
Your tonsils can turn against you and hurt your immune system. I had mine taken out at age 21 after an abscess nearly killed me.
In 2nd grade, my sister had strep throat several times, and the doctor recommended getting her tonsils removed. Until, while being seen for an entirely unrelated matter, my brother was being seen and the doctor noticed HIS tonsils were swollen and red. Turned out he was carrying the bacteria but was completely asymptomatic; a heavy dose of antibiotics for him, and voila, my sister stopped getting strep!
Not sure if this is the same thing, but my friend has been getting sore throats a ton, almost monthly, and she had to take them out surgically. It’s weird how tonsils work
It happened to my coworker. He was over 30. Took him a few weeks before he returned to work. He said he never want to see pudding again.
When you get a kidney transplant, unless your original kidneys are diseased, they just lEAVE THE OLD ONES IN THERE. OLD DEAD KIDNEYS JUST CHILLING
also- fallopian tubes are not connected to ovaries. they just float in the general direction of the ovaries and do their best to vacuum up eggs as they get popped out (kind of like a pimple bursting) out of ovary pores? so the eggs just get popped wherever and you gotta cross your toes and hope your weird little vacuum tubes are aiming right that day???
Can't vacuum eggs if you don't have weird little vacuum tubes. Cross your fingers for me that I can get this done, plz thx.
Interesting fact though, if something happens and you end up with just one tube, that tube can migrate between the ovaries!
Load More Replies...The old kidneys aren't exactly dead. I have mine. They just broke. I don't notice them at all!
A friend had cancer in a kidney, and the incision to remove it was 8 inches long wrapping from his abdomen to back - so makes sense why they leave them in if they can.
Not a "dead" kidney at all, just one that doesn't function properly. Not sure why this should worry anyone, why would they cut buts out of you, with all the increased risk of more invasive surgery, when it does no harm, and potentially still serves some purpose, if they just leave it there?
Then what does an actual uterus look like? Is the most common image not true?
Given that it has successfully happened literally billions of times over hundreds of thousands of years I'm not going to waste my time worrying about it.
The kidneys aren’t dead, they’re just no longer performing their function.
Why would they leave necrotizing tissue in the human body ... Functional or not, to a point we are still providing life to the now unwanted kidneys by keeping them in and attached. I didn't realize fallopian tubes were unattached. That's neat, a bit like a synapse then.
Native kidneys still have a blood supply and should never be exposed to the kind of bacteria that would lead to tissue necrotization. As long as they aren't causing problems, there's no reason to subject a transplant patient to the risks of hemorrhage and increased pain and recovery time involved with another major surgical procedure.
Load More Replies...There's a certain part during the cremation process where the meat is perfectly cooked.
Just because Guy Fieri says low and slow, doesn't mean it's right 😂
Load More Replies...Well, yeah. Just like a stopped clock is always right two times in 24 hours. This one is stupid.
With the temps they use (over 1000 degrees for 2-3+ hours) I wouldn't call it perfect. Try convect baking meat at the highest temp possible in your oven and let me know how you manage to get anything "perfectly done". It wouldn't even qualify for horribly done as the outside would be charred through and the inside.. for however brief there is an inside different than the outside, would be dry beyond recognition. (I don't own a crematorium but I'm guessing they don't use moist heat cooking methods. 😐 And how has this "meat perfectly cooked" statement been verified?) As a chef, I can guarantee the method by which a body is cremated in no way could ever equate to "perfectly cooked meat" at any stage, and certainly not in just 2-3 hours for something the size of a human. That is not at all how cremation or cooking/baking works. I get this statement was to incite a reaction but it's so blazingly (no pun intended) inaccurate that it just comes across as insensitive and ignorant.
They say to never substitute dogs and cats for children. This is true... The fat content is different and your recipes will be ruined.
I lost my father a couple of years ago and he was cremated. I don't see the humor in this
Incorrect. That's not how cooking works. You can have a steak that's burned on the outside and raw in the middle.
Poop can come out of both ends.
True. If you continue an episode of vomiting until it comes out tasting like cråp, that's because it is.
Can be caused by extremely impacted bowel and it looks really black and taste even worse than you can imagine apparently.
I had a C-section and the doctor gave me pain meds that I was allergic to and my bowels never started working correctly and it is horrible I basically overdosed and spent another week in the hospital.
Did they give you stool softeners? Abdominal surgery, immobility, and opioids are the perfect recipe for this.
Load More Replies...Experienced this a few times when my bowel twisted, luckily once I was in hospital I had an NG tube in so I didn't vomit it up after that.
If your immune system figures out you have eyes you will go blind.
Your eyes have a separate immune system from the rest of your body. As such, your body's immune system doesn't "know" your eyes exist; they're a blind spot for it. The immune system's job is to keep foreign things that aren't supposed to be there out of your body, and if it does learn about your eyes, that's what it will decide they are. And it will disassemble them, which I understand is quite painful.
Load More Replies...I am sorry but I am bothered by the mascara crumbs under the eyes in this pic and the white linty bit on the end of the top eyelashes .-. sorry, my brain is weird
Humans have both light meat and dark meat due to type 1A and type 2B muscle fibers. However, humans are lean and not very calorie dense, so if you're already starving cannibalism doesn't do much good.
Humans are lean? Maybe in some localized culture somewhere in the world, but that is certainly not what I have seen.
The meat is lean, not the over all individual. Fat develops over muscle tissue in humans, it does not marble into muscle like it does with cows.
Load More Replies...30 minutes with 200 degree celsius to conusme it safely
Load More Replies...I remember watching Alive the night before a flight.
Load More Replies...The light meat is generally better, but the dark meat is very good in stews and chili.
In Voltaire's book Candide, there were some people on a ship who had to decide who would be dinner. One bright person suggested the women get their right butt-cheek cut off so everybody could eat and not die of starvation. In the story anyway, it saved them, though of course made the women sit wierd after that
In canada and the states, doctors and residents are allowed to perform gynaecological exams on women under general anaesthetic, in order to provide students and residents with experience performing pelvic exams. this is typically not disclosed to the patient, and is justified as being part of receiving treatment at a teaching hospital.
I don't know where this was happening. When I was in med school we had paid "models" who would take us on a tour of their cervix. "No, it's a little to the right. That's it. You should see it now." It was weird as heck. But everyone was consenting and no one was violated.
Source? There is a lot of paperwork and signatures involved in a surgery, I would be surprised if this were true.
This is 100% True. There are states trying to outlaw the practice without patient consent. But we're women so...
Load More Replies...Good news! Looks like that changed this year! Prior to, only 21 states in the US has expressed interest on a ban on this practice.
Science News https://www.sciencenews.org › pel... Pelvic exams at hospitals require written consent, new U.S. guidelines ...
Load More Replies...Just consider an appendectomy, torsed intestine, scoliosis surgery under local. When the time comes, you'll take the general.
Load More Replies...Honestly, if you didn't know, why would you care? I think you're just being hysterical (see what I did there?)
Happened in Australia too, until it became public knowledge in the media & the practice was stopped.
When I was 16 or 17 my health care was from city clinic for gyno. One visit I was asked if I minded medical students observing the exam. Figuring they needed to learn, I agreed to it. That is how a full gyn exam had an audience of half dozen.
When I gave birth to my first child in Montreal Canada, the hospital was attached to a university. They asked my permission to do all sorts of thing. There were 12 around the doctor. I just pointed one guy. I was not going to get 12 fingers in my genitals for medicine's sake. He was also the one who did all the other work, signed the paperwork and visited.
Lots of things we know about resuscitation, trauma surgery, emergency medicine etc, were learned through gruesome vivisective experiments on WWII prisoners of war. Basically, every life saved now was paid for by a PoW tortured to death in a camp.
I hate these claims just thrown out there. Which POWs? By who? Where? While there were medical experiments performed on humans, it was mostly by Nazis on Civilians in concentration camps. As for trauma and emergency medicine, medical personnel were experimenting on their own wounded every day, and in every war. When doctors are getting dozens to hundreds of trauma patients every day, they are trying out all sorts of new things, because the old things don't work.
For those blaming Germany and China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study Yeah, it happens all over the place.
PPL OF THE WORLD!!! " MEDICINE AND INTERVENTION IS AN EXPERIMENT! DONT FORGET THAT!
And the billions of animals that have been the subjected to unspeakable torture in the name of medical science.
In the 70’s they thought babies didn’t feel pain so they preformed surgery without anasteisa.
This isn't exactly true. They didn't perform surgery on an awake screaming baby. It would still be anaesthetised, but it was more for the doctors ease than the baby's. Plus they knew that babies felt pain, any parent knew that! It was that they thought the baby wouldn't remember the pain therefore it didn't matter if they used pain relief or not. It still sucks & is a hideous thought but fortunately, beliefs change.
I think people forget that medical knowledge has come on so far in the last few decades. The risk of anaesthesia in an infant was very high, which was a very large factor in why it was not used.
Load More Replies...That went on into the 80s too. It was more that they didn't know how to safely anesthetize an infant at the time. Unfortunately they did perform (unnecessary) surgery on me as an infant and it still has a traumatic effect on me. The sight of anything even remotely surgical triggers a massive panic attack in me that almost always makes me faint.
Or rather they thought that babies wouldn't remember it so anethesia didn't really matter. In about 1978 I was supposed to have a minor operation, where they'd poked needle through an obstructed tear duct, and I screamed so much that my mother bullied herself in and halted the operation. They should never have a mother wait in a hearing distance!
Y'all, they absolutely 💯 did not believe babies felt pain like adults did for a solid period of modern medicine. Also, it wasn't because they weren't anesthetizing these patients, because they were, just not for pain. While they weren't giving these babies anything at all for pain, they were still giving them perhaps the most dangerous part of all, the paralytic. So, not only were these poor babies awake and in pain, they were also often *paralyzed*! If the baby was lucky, their surgeon might have given them a dose of nitrous oxide before the muscle relaxer (i.e., paralytic) "just in case" or because they noticed how much easier it was to paralyze the child when they gave it (a sure sign the child was being affected by pain).
I was cut open at 2 days old to remove an ovarian tumor. My right ovary was buried in an orange sized vascular tumor. I don't remember a thing.
..and mom said I got a few drops of morphine every 4 hours. Then later, baby aspirin.
Load More Replies...This is still a not entirely uncommon belief to the point where professional pediatric medical groups needed to put out statements telling their providers to at least place locals for circumcisions. Interestingly, some providers don't believe in baby pain, and some just don't think they'll remember it, either way it's creepy. Was still being taught in nursing school less than 20 years ago...
This was still "thought"well into the 80s, unfortunately and so many babies had to suffer through agonizing surgery, with usually very little, if any medications were given at all.
I just learned about SJS, where you get an adverse reaction to a medication by your skin falling off. It happens at seemingly random too, but some medications are more prone to cause it. Fun stuff.
I have fibromyalgia and degenerative disc disease. Been dealing with this bs for years. I have received steroid epidural injections in my spine. If you can get it, do it. It eliminates the back pain. The side effect is that the fibro pain is eliminated. I had dreams about how good I felt after.
I cried with joy. I forgot what life was without pain.
Load More Replies...My best friend’s father had this as a reaction to painkillers - the worst part was that they couldn’t risk it happening again, so he couldn’t have any more painkillers. He never even dared take paracetamol again, poor man.
You might want to consider posting a clarification comment. The way you wrote the first sentence indicates that your skin falling off causes an adverse reaction to a medication.
Ah, no it doesn’t. The sentence clearly means SJS is an adverse reaction to medication where your skin falls off.
Load More Replies...My friends husband never recovered from this. She said it was horrific watching his skin peel off and nothing could be done. He died about a year after diagnosis
Steven Johnson Syndrome. And once your body learns it can do this magical transformation, it's more likely to do it again in the future. Imagine a 3rd degree burn (No it's not a burn, it just works the same and is treated the same) coming from the inside to the out, and similarly, the skin falls off at some point. It can also affect your eyes, and if it gets too far down your throat you're in real trouble. My daughter got it when she was 4.
If you're taking meds and you get red facial flushing and rash. Seek medical advice ASAP.
If you sever your spinal cord you can get a condition called priapism (erection that doesn't go down). Treatment is draining the blood via syringe from the erect penis (or rarely, leeches).
Men joke about how great it would be, but those who do experience can tell you that it is nowhere near as good as it sounds. The blood won't drain and the pressure of it causes pain. I highly doubt you could actually cum while it is going on either. It can cause permanent damage too.
I've seen this on an episode of True Blood. It happened to Jason Stackhouse.
There are other things that cause priapism besides a severed spinal cord.
A very rare, little-known side effect of Trazadone.
Load More Replies...The spinal cord is simply a pathway for nerves, so it depends on where it gets severed. If you don't die first medical intervention can take care of everything that normally relies on messages using the pathway. If you're too young to already know about him, ask Google about Christopher Reeve
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I think you can get a tooth infection and it spreads to your brain n you go bye bye.
Yes, but teeth are super close to the brain. Also people don’t often think of a tooth infection killing them.
Load More Replies...Teeth are located in the area referred to as the triangle of death. Any infections in that area have a greater chance of spreading to the brain. My dr told me not even to mess with pimples in that area because of the chance of infection
The triangle of death. Had an abscess there, caught just in time. No symptoms until the last minute, either.
Same. I've had a bunch of rotted teeth for over a decade now (mtn dew/coca cola addiction) and an upper tooth abscessed, swelled my face on that side badly. Went to hosp and had to stay 3 days to fight the sepsis going to my brain. Haven't been able to afford dentist etc so same teeth still here, but 100% worse in all ways. That tooth is abscessing again and I fear it'll be a repeat from 10 yrs ago. I did find a dental ins thru a well known ins company the other day that has no waiting period, is $87/mth and gives $10k instead of the usual $1200 so I'm jumping on it. Gonna get them all removed and start an all on 4. When Jan comes and the 10k renews I'll get the implants and top/bottom dentures. I can't wait to get this poison out of my mouth and body and get my self confidence, esteem and love back. Plus my smile.
Load More Replies...That the father of gynecology was a sadistic f**k that did horrific things to enslaved women.
J. Marion Sims. I’d far rather remember the names of the women he tortured in his quest for knowledge, Anarcha, Betsey, Lucy and other unnamed enslaved women. The book, Medical Apartheid, is a ‘good’ read to understand the atrocities that were performed in the name of science.
Load More Replies...Isn't gynecology an area humans have been concerned about for thousands of years before this guy?
Yes, but in the past, most gynecologic and obstetrical problems were treated by midwives, rather than physicians. There is a comprehensive review of Dr. Sims' good and bad sides in Wikipedia.
Load More Replies...So let me get this straight: A: no one cares about women or how things affect us differently than men so we suffer needlessly bc they think we are too complicated or whatever. OR... B: they enslave us and torture us for their insatiable need for science and knowledge in the most sadistic way possible. What is WRONG with men?!?
Yes. EVERY single medical professional falls in one or both of the camps you describe. Sheesh. Do you ever fail to revel in your victimhood?
Load More Replies...He's the one who "officially" began it in the 1800s, but there are written records in Egypt going back to the 1800s BCE (and we know that it goes back well before then).
All smells are particulates. When you have the displeasure of walking into a recently used bathroom and smell the smells the last person left, you can rest easy knowing that their are tiny microscopic particules of their stools now firmly implanted in your nose. And in your mouth if it was open. You're welcome.
Yeah, but if you can smell somebody else's delicious chocolate fudge cake it means they're sharing some of it with you.
Sharticles is why I keep my toothbrush closed in the medicine cabinet (and close the lid when flushing!)
Sara, you're doing exactly the right thing(s). And upvote for "sharticles," a worthy portmanteau.
Load More Replies...I guess it depends on how you define "particulates." The smell of various volatile chemicals (alcohol, ether, gasoline, etc) arises from molecules of the stuff, not particles.
This is exactly why they say to keep your toothbrushes out of the bathroom else they get covered with your and your families fecal stuff.
No, it isn’t. It’s because when you flush the toilet, aerosolized droplets of toilet water go flying around your bathroom.
Load More Replies...Which is why I can never understand not closing the lid when flushing. if there is a lid.
If the anesthesiologist f****d up you wouldn't know
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since everyone is sharing their story i'll share mines. i was diagnosed with bladder cancer early 2022 with signs i ignored late 2021. between april 2022 - june 2023 i went through 5 surgeries to remove the tumors in my bladder. they kept coming back.
mentally preparing myself for the first trans-urethral resection, pre-op nurse just straight up told me if the anesthesiologist f****d up i wouldn't know..or wouldn't feel anything if s**t hits the fan. what a f****n pep talk huh? hahah.
christmas 2023 i was finally clear. i still go to chemo (doublet therapy?) and see a catheter :( for gemcitabine/docetaxel.
It depends on how they f**k up. If you wake up, or even become semi-conscious, during some procedures you will very definitely know. Of course if you never wake up you won't know or care.
Actually, no. They use a medicine that wipes your memory from the time of surgery. After my sinus surgery (full anesthesia) in the recovery room, they told me they woke me up before in the OR to check everything's ok, and I didn't and don't remember a thing. I'm oddly creeped out by that, even while knowing everything went ok.
Load More Replies...I’m actually ok with that. If the fück up is I feel no pain and slip quietly away, I don’t think that’s so different to passing in your sleep.
My anesthesiologist f****d up, and I certainly knew. I almost lost my sight in one eye during back surgery due to her lack of attention to her duties. Afterwards she told me that it was my fault! Lady, I was unconscious at the time. And you were the one who put me unconscious and whose only job was to monitor me. Fortunately, the nurse in the recovery room was a former student of mine and got me the help I needed right away.
I had surgery where they woke me up too early (fortunately they had also used a local) and I was very much aware of it.
That nurse was inappropriate. That was a reportable situation, and I would have definitely reported it.
The beginning of birth control was originally an experiment and was wildly irregulated.
It's actually a real, but very uncommon, word and means unregulated. Then again, the supposed authorities now say that "irregardless" is also a real word.
Load More Replies...The ovaries and fallopian tubes are not connected, so when an egg is released the fallopian tube sucks it up like a straw. Ladies, this also means that any seamen that makes it to the fallopian tubes have an open door into your abdominal cavity.
Seamen 😂 now my head is envisioning a Navel fleet running around in your organs lol
"a Navel fleet" -- so, you're suggesting that the fleet exits the body through your navel?
Load More Replies...Which is why it is possible to have an extra-uterine pregnancy, which is very, very bad news.
The placenta that is found in humans and other live-birth mammals came about from a distant common ancestor being infected with a virus some 150-200 million years ago, and evolution doing its thing. If this infection didn't happen, we'd still be laying eggs.
https://whyy.org/segments/the-placenta-went-viral-and-protomammals-were-born/
Load More Replies...Not sure that explains convergent evolution with regards to non-mammalian animals that live birth. Some lizards are viviparous, some are ovoviviparous, some fish are ovoviviparous... But, I know very little. Curious to look into it.
Thank you to the person who time traveled 150-200 million years ago to find this out. But seriously, can "conjecture" be overstated more than this? Humans really think they're so smart.
Editor, please take this off the site. It's irresponsible journalism, and potentially more harmful than entertaining. Several items are seriously misleading or blatantly incorrect, and many are personal anecdotes with unsupported conclusions.
Seeing these develop over the last few years it's clear that one person after another has passed on a tiny bit of medical "fact", which gets embroidered each time in the retelling. It's like Chinese Whispers. I don't believe for a second that a single one of the posts here is from someone who actually knows this stuff, just that they've seen in on the internet and regurgitated it as their own.
Load More Replies...Yeah right. Half of these posts were written without a second of research or verification. and were just picked up from reddit. Can we just stick to animal posts and memes ?
As someone who researches this for fun, they leave out important parts, like context or the time
The doctor who pioneered the pre-frontal lobotomy, Dr. Antonio Egaz-Moniz, was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine. One of his students, Dr. Walter Freeman, took it further by developing the Trans-orbital lobotomy, in which an ice-pick-type device is inserted through the top of the eye socket and forced into the brain by using a small hammer to break through the skull.
Editor, please take this off the site. It's irresponsible journalism, and potentially more harmful than entertaining. Several items are seriously misleading or blatantly incorrect, and many are personal anecdotes with unsupported conclusions.
Seeing these develop over the last few years it's clear that one person after another has passed on a tiny bit of medical "fact", which gets embroidered each time in the retelling. It's like Chinese Whispers. I don't believe for a second that a single one of the posts here is from someone who actually knows this stuff, just that they've seen in on the internet and regurgitated it as their own.
Load More Replies...Yeah right. Half of these posts were written without a second of research or verification. and were just picked up from reddit. Can we just stick to animal posts and memes ?
As someone who researches this for fun, they leave out important parts, like context or the time
The doctor who pioneered the pre-frontal lobotomy, Dr. Antonio Egaz-Moniz, was awarded the Nobel Prize for medicine. One of his students, Dr. Walter Freeman, took it further by developing the Trans-orbital lobotomy, in which an ice-pick-type device is inserted through the top of the eye socket and forced into the brain by using a small hammer to break through the skull.
