45 Times People Were So Mad At Their Family Members, They Just Had To Shame Them Online
Even when we live with a family we love, some days can be hell. They say that familiarity breeds contempt, and that can certainly be true in cases like the ones in this post, where we explore some of the more annoying aspects of family life!
Some can be the result of children who haven’t yet fully understood some of the principles of good social behavior. Others can be the results of adults who managed to grow up without ever having been taught the principles of good social behavior. Either way, they can make family life really annoying - no matter how much we love them!
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Stupid Twins
Wife Left The Gloves To Dry, I Almost Had A Heart Attack
My 39-Week-Pregnant Wife Went To The Store To "Get Stuff For Dinner". This Is What She Came Home With
A Very Slow Flushing Toilet Led To My Discovery Of The Most Ironic Toilet Clog. Kids Are Annoying Sometimes
My youngest son’s baby box still contains the receipt from the plumber who had to remove a plastic crabby patty from our clogged toilet. Point is…I feel ya.
My Dad Does This To Avoid Cutting Pepperoni
Honestly I Doubt That Purse Would Ever Be Used For Anything As Useful Again
I Took A Stupid Photo, And It Has Become The Default Photo My Family Now Sends Each Other Instead Of "Ok"
I Tried Turning On The TV And It Wouldn't Turn On. I Opened The Remote And I Find This
My Husband Has Been Sticking These In Places I Can't Reach To Annoy Me. It's Working
How My Sister Leaves The Bathroom
My Mom Borrowed My (Nearly New) Heels Months Ago And Forgot Them In Her Car. She Found Them Like This Today. This Is Why I Hate Letting People Borrow Stuff
Tell Me You Have A Three-Year-Old Without Telling Me You Have A Three-Year-Old
The Toilet Paper At My Dad’s House. He Still Complains About How Quickly I Go Through It
Pours A Brand New Bag Of Chips Into A Dog Bowl, Just To Eat It Out Of The Bowl
Im not familiar with this kind of dog, is it naturally pink or does it change from dog to dog?
My Sister Called And Asked Why Her Dryer Kept Stopping
My Brother Was Mad I Gave Him My Cheap Art Supplies. He Claimed I Didn’t Trust Him Enough. Here Is The Proof I Can’t Trust Him
I'm partly through this list and this is the most aggravating of the posts so far. You're brother is truly a monster.
After My Parents' Divorce My Mother Ripped My Father Out My Childhood Photos. He Passed Away Over Two Years Ago And We Don't Have Many Photos Together
When You Spend Quality Time With Your 7-Year-Old Son Working On His Dinosaur Diorama For School But Your Wife Comes Home And Says This Looks Horrible
My Aunt Saw No Harm In Taking My Pops Down From My Shelf And Letting My 4-Year-Old Cousin Play With Them While I Was At School
Brother Used My First Edition 1998 Chamber Of Secrets As A Coaster
My 2-Year-Old Son Decided To Throw His Sippy Cup At Our 65" TV
How My Aunt Drives. She Also Texts/Calls While Driving Too
You can possibly save one or multiple lives by documenting it and send to the police. Wreckless endangerment is no joke.
My Sister's Toothbrush
The Husband Changed The Bathroom Lightbulbs. I Am Annoyed
The Hair Brush My Daughter Leaves Hanging In The Shower
At this point, is this brush even getting through her hair? The bristles are being strangled
My Sister Says “Cats Don’t Need Clean Dishes” And Just Puts The Cat Bowls In The Cabinet With Large Pieces Of Food Still Stuck To Them
My Aunt Who Likes To Smoke In The Bathroom
My Sister Has Been Making A Prom Dress For Some Weeks Now. She Leaves Her Supplies Everywhere And I Almost Stepped On Her Opened Needle Box
Oh man. I sew a lot and I am fanatical about putting my sewing needles and pins away securely. I stepped on a lost sewing needle once. Never again.
Driving My Sister's Car Always Mildly Irritates Me
When Your 8-Year-Old Decides You Shouldn't Have A Laptop After Telling Him He's Too Young To Have A Laptop
The Way My Sister Opened This Can
Let My Younger Brother Use Tinfoil, And It Ends Up Like This
My Very Normal Brother And His Normal Outfit He Wears All The Time
That Smirking Face! So Proud Of Her Work
Please don't assume or suggest the child is a monster..i grew up in an abusive household and I was terrified of making any mistake fearing the consequences. Let me suggest an alternative explanation to the picture - perhaps it was emergency breaking, perhaps the car run into a pothole and the drink spilled. I am happy to see a smiling child and not one cowering in fear
My Dad Has The Annoying Habit Of Leaving Near-Empty Bottles In The Fridge
My Wife Does This Every. Single. Time. Especially Annoying When You Buy With Pulp And Want To Give It A Good Shake
The Way My Sister Saves Her Ice Cream For Later
My Sister-In-Law And Brother Broke My Chair And Hid It With Towels Instead Of Telling Me
How did they do this?? What, did they turn it upside down and stand on it?
LEGO Set I’m Selling. My Brother Decided To Stab It With A Screwdriver
My 3-Year-Old Daughter Did This Today To My Favorite Thesaurus Which I Held Perfect For Almost 20 Years Since School
My Mom Threw All The Chocolate Waffles Outside For The Birds Thinking The Chocolate Was Mold. It Was A Box Of 32, Only 2 Were Eaten
Please don't give those things to birds. It's just as much or even worse of a junk food for them as for humans.
Kids Cutting Brownies
I love eating brownies, but not if I've baked them.... I mean, it's just BUTTER, loads of BUTTER, with SUGAR, loads of SUGAR, some cocoa and maybe a tiny bit of flour. After seeing how unhealthy the ingredients are, I just can't eat it!
Try the diet ones with ice cream, sprinkles, chocolate syrup, and whipped cream on top. Okay, maybe not so diet.
Load More Replies...Besides, congrats on baking! That looks so delicious, you should be very proud of yourself!
The bottom part looks like a crooked mouth to me. The middle piece looks like a little bit like Texas to me.
LOL! What's with all the intolerant a******s posting these? The kids are obviously using their shape toys. It's harmless.
I’d consider the entire remaining brownie as one piece, and then eat it all. Revenge.
Daughter Played With The Stamp Pad Ink. We Already Tried Washing It With Soap And Water But Unfortunately The Ink Is Hard To Remove
Try soaking it in vinegar before washing. Vinegar is a natural stain remover.
My Brother Bends Our Spoons
The Way My 15-Year-Old Son Eats Wings
It’s My Birthday. I Shared Photos Of The Wonderful Day My Husband Gave Me, Including My Favorite Pizza And Dessert. My Grandmother’s Cousin Had This To Say
Wow what an a**hole. I hate these type of passive aggressive people, they act like they're just being kind or trying to help you in some weird way, when in reality they're just prejudiced and think being fat somehow makes people worthless. I'd rather be 'plump' and happy after a fun day than skinny and miserable because I can't eat the things I enjoy for fear of gaining weight.
My Sister House-Sat For Me This Weekend. This Is How I Found My New Chef's Knife When I Got Back Home
My Daughter, Ladies And Gentlemen
My Sister Took My Phone To Sent Herself $55 From My Cash App. Cash App Support Won't Do Anything About It
Stupidity pays, literally. Phone lock and passwords can save you money.
People In My House Insist On 1: Not Removing All Of The Seal And 2: Using The Same Spoon For The Peanut Butter And The Jelly. I Hate It
This Is How My Sister Leaves The Toothpaste Like
Really Son?
The Absolutely Unhinged Way My Mother Handles Butter
I Came Home And Found My Room Like This
For context, my little brother had dropped his phone behind my bed, and couldn't get it out, so my parents ripped my bed and room apart to help him.
He Actually Followed The Instruction
My Son Bit The Directional Pad Off The Remote
"hey guys welcome to my channel and today were going to be eating remotes!"
RIP 140 Hz Monitor
I wonder if the parents actually teach anything or just find it funny enough to post it online
My Little Brother Uses 5 Towels To Shower For A Few Minutes
I don’t understand how these things are going on and parents aren’t addressing it.
How My Mother And Siblings Leave Bowls Of Food In The Fridge, Never To Be Touched Again
Asked My Daughter To Take Out The Clean Dishes From The Dishwasher
One Of My Uncle Bought These Fishes For One Of My Little Cousins. They Don't Own A Tank. They've Been Living Like This For About 8 Days Now
Good Thing I Went Into The Kitchen At 2 AM. My Cousin Came Home Drunk And Then Left This Cooking In The Oven
When You Just Wanted A Nice Slice Of Fresh Bread But You Remember That You Have A 10-Year-Old
My Partner's Son Is A Monster
How My Sister Eats Her Pizza
My 9-Year-Old Sister Destroyed Our Microwave Doing A "Tik Tok Life Hack" (The Starburst Melted Into The Actual Microwave)
We Can Just End This Thread Now - My Kid Just Took The Cake
After Years Of Telling Her Not To Plug Space Heaters Into Extension Cords, My Mother Almost Burned The House Down And Ruined The Wall
Apparently “no one ever specifically told her she couldn’t use multi-outlets, they’re not extension cords!”
Sister Made "Potions" That Won't Come Out On Our Deep-Cleaned Tub. She Used Paint And Locks Of Her Own Hair, And A Touch Of Cooking Oil
New Worst Habit Of The 3-Year-Old Is Unrolling Any Toilet Roll He Finds Around The House. I Really Hate This And I Can’t Tell You How Much
I’m currently finding completely unrolled loo rolls wherever I look.
Artist Rendering Of How Much Space My Wife Leaves For Me In Bed. Approximately 5000 Square Inches Of A Possible 6080. She Is The Genghis Khan Of The King Mattress
The Money Organization In My 9-Year-Old Son's Wallet
Letter To Management From My 6-Year-Old Son
My Brother Leaves Whatever Snack He Half-Ate Last Night On The Stairs Instead Of Putting It Back In The Pantry… Every Night
Did he use his finger or something? Where is the spoon? Because if there is no spoon he either returned to the kitchen and chose to leave it there or he used his fingers, but there are no smears on the lid from his hands when he closed it
My Dad Asked My Brother To Open Up These Wet Tissues. This Is How He Opened. He Is 21 Years Old
Got It Last Night, I Never Liked Crayons
The Quincunx, Ladies And Gentlemen. There Are Those Kids Who Won't Eat The Crust. And Then, There's My Kid
My Brother Got A Piano Keyboard For Christmas A Few Years Ago, He Doesn’t Play Piano So I’ve Been Putting Use To It Because Music Is My Only Hobby
The other day he decided he wanted it back and stole it from my room, today I walked into his room and say that he’s been using it as a table.
My Roku Controller After I Said "No" To My Three-Year-Old
Thrown against our stone fireplace with all the strength his toddler rage could muster. I think I have all the parts and I am ready to begin an attempt at reassembly.
This Is How I Found My Kids’ Toothbrushes
The Hell My Mother Did To These Cakes?
My Brother Cuts Off Bananas Instead Of Taking It Off
I Love My 7-Year-Old Son. What I Don't Love Is Him Doing This To The Soap For The Past 4 Years
My Little Sister Never Finishes Her Water And Doesn’t Clean It Up
Such a waste of plastic. Can't you drink tap water where you're from?
When Your 2-Year-Old Cousin Comes Over And Completely Messes Up Your Newton's Cradle
My Daughter's Mother's Day Card To Her Grandmother
Nah... There's a difference between how kids write and how adults like to imitate kids writing. This is the latter, with lots of straightish lines and pointy turns (possibly written with the wrong hand), and also written quite fast since there is very little bleeding from the pen (kids don't write fast). And while the "m" could pass for an upper case "M" childishly tossed in with the lower case letters, the "n" is too far from an actual lower case "n" for a beginner. For authentic kids' handwriting just look at the note above from the kid who didn't get pancakes. Rounder letters and misspelled words (but on a higher level! This kid is going places). Intelligent writing by a kid, as opposed to this example of stupid writing by an adult.
Left The Kid For A Minute
Nah, that is more then a minutes work. Be glad the kid didnt go for the electronics.
Younger Brother (8 Years Old) Smeared Toothpaste On The Mirror
My Sister Came Into My Room Looking For Her Sweatpants And Did This While I Was Gone
Not Even The Combined Mind Of Two 11-Year-Olds Could Figure This One Out
How My Little Brother Eats A Pint Of Ice Cream
When Your Brother Uses Your Cologne. It Was Full To Where My Thumb Is A Few Days Ago. How Do You Use That Much Cologne, Is He Drinking It?
My Three-Year-Old Took A Bite Out Of My Xbox Joystick While Watching TV
My Kid's End Of The Year Open House. My Wife And I Are The Oldest Parents In Her Class, At 39. Thanks For Making Us Feel Good, Kid
My Son (15 Years Old) Takes A New Glass Every Time He Wants To Drink Water
How My Brother Starts Multiple Tablet Sheets At The Same Time Instead Of Going Through One At A Time
Yeah I do this, have them everywhere with a few out each one but if I can't find one when needed a fresh one is taken out the packet
My Wife Sleeps Like This
My Sister Refuses To Take Her Dirty Clothes Out Of Our Already-Small Shared Bathroom
My 12-Year-Old Cousin Using Her PS5 As A Glorified Extension Cord
Woke Up To Stale English Muffins. For Clarity, This Was Caused By A 36-Year-Old Man-Child
Cousin Made This On My Grandfather's Property Without Asking
I Love My Son, But
I'd pour all the leavings into one bottle and tell him it's a new "mystery" flavor XD
My Wife's Way Of Getting The Bacon Ready To Be Cooked Is Something I Will Never Understand
Yeah, bacon doesn't really need gymnastics. Nice hang it's got going, tho.
Left My Kids Alone For 5 Minutes. They Were Using This "Normally" And This Happened
My Little Sister Couldn't Decide Which Donut She Wanted. Guess That's What I Get For Giving Her Options
Cut off a piece instead of putting your spit on all of them, ffs. Or buy your OWN damned assortment, a*****e.
And She Was So Proud Using The Meat Thermometer
How to use: 1. Put it in the oven with the meat, display facing outside 2. Start cooking 3. Check the display regularly 4. Absolutely nothing can go wrong
How My Grandma Gets A Slice Of A Watermelon
My Mother Wanted To "Cook." This Is Why I’m The One That Cooks
My 10-Year-Old Made An Easy Mac And Now The Whole House Stinks
i would laugh instead of getting angry doe but i dont want kids
When My Brother Is Doing The Dishes, He Puts The Plates Like This And He Doesn't Want Me To Correct It
I'm Just Hoping She’s Not Watching Wibbly Pig While Chomping On Fistfuls Of Ham
As a parent of a 3 year old: a toddler asking to eat anything is always agreed to. Toddlers are like camels in the desert, they refuse everything you make and somehow survive on banana, toast and weetbix for 72 hours.
Day 1. Breakfast Dishes Are Never Put Away, Finally Opened An Account To Document Ways My Husband Annoys Me And Gave Up On Telling Him
So.....You don't want to tell him anymore to clean up the dishes, then lock up all the other dishes until he cleans up the ones he's used and left on the counter. This sounds like a communication problem, which OP isn't being very clear about to her husband.
You Missed The Trash Can By About Five Feet
My Wife Told Me To Bring Down The Black And White Laundry Basket. I Brought This Down And She Got Annoyed That I Brought The Wrong One
How My 22-Year-Old Sister Opens Ice Cream Packets
My Brother Bought His First House This Year And Won’t Shut Up About It. Got Him This Cake For His Birthday This Year, Since He Won’t Shut Up About The House
I'm hoping this is a light joke to both of them, but if he bought a house he deserves to talk about it and feel proud, specially these days
My Mom Borrowed My Airtag. I Genuinely Have No Idea How She Managed To Make It Brown And Sticky
Airtag is a kind of tracking device you can put on stuff and track it on your phone.
The Temperature At Which My Mom Keeps The House
Get These Notifications At Work From My 4-Year-Old
My Mom Cut My Sandwich
My Cousin Came Over And Switched Out My Turtles Heat Lamp Light For The Broken Lava Lamp Light, It's Flat And I Can't Unscrew It. Any Tips?
My Little Cousin Tried To Snatch My Headphones Off My Head And Snapped Them
My 2-Year-Old Sister Poured Milk From Her Bottle Into My New Xbox Series X
Brought Some Donuts For My Mom For Mother’s Day. My Baby Brother And My Little Cousin Saw And They Are Begging Her For The Donuts. She Barely Even Had Any
Courtesy Of My 7-Year-Old Daughter. She Shouldn't Write On The Car... But The Message Is So Sweet It's Hard To Be Too Mad
How My Daughter Plays With Play-Doh
My Sister Decides To Leave These On The Bathroom Counter Every Day
My Four-Year-Old Brother Traded His Build-A-Bear Charmander For This
Why Do My Brothers Do This?
My Mom Left Out All Her Beer Cans When She Told Me To Clean The Dishes
As a mom, I'd be embarrassed. Looks like she has an alcohol problem.
My 4-Year-Old Son Insists On Making The Top Frame Crooked And Gets Annoyed Whenever I Fix It
Oh, Please Let Me Replace The Toilet Roll Again. Where’s A Sarcasm Emoji When You Need One?
This is so annoying!! I have a salon, can't blame men for this solely!! I have a little sign that say, Changing the toilet paper doesn't cause brain damage. The girls still leave 2 squares on the roll.......... WOW, Just WOW!!! Lololol
Apparently I Can’t Text My Dad Without Texting My Mom
What Kind Of Psychopath Does This? The Same Person That Gouges The Butter Or Leaves Crumbs In The Butter, Or Butter In The Jam Jar
Distance Between Switch (0% Battery) And Dock: 10cm
Look, This Is Important, You Understand
My Two-Year-Old Cousin Woke Up And Chose Violence
I am so p[lease my kids survived their childhood long enough to move out.
What I Usually Do To Annoy My Mom
This Is How My Dad Cut This Pizza. I’m Pretty Sure He Was Doing It On Purpose Just To Annoy Me
My Wife Eats All Dishes One By One, Normally It's Annoying, But How She Eats Cake And Custard Really Irks Me
That's how I do it, I hate cake swimming in custard and also crumbs in custard. I use a separate small spoon to smear just the right amount of custard on a piece of cake. Yes I do it in restaurants as well.
I fee uncomfortable with part of the content. It's one thing calling out lazy roommates and adult family members and completely other expecting compassion and outrage that a toddler threw a sippy cup. You decided to have a child and until certain age kids are not logical thinkers, have no idea of the value of the things around them and definitely do not do things out of spite Why have children if you consider a toddler clogging toilet with a toy a monster. Teach them better as they grow up
Agree 100%. It's your responsibility to explain their mistakes and help them understand why it's bad to destroy furniture, laptops etc. Also, with my children, I explain to them why I am angry (I am not angry with them, but with the stuff they did, for example) and I give them the opportunity to fix their mistake. This is very important in my opinion, because I never got the chance to do so as a child and the punishment was never over. In my own family, there is the bad deed, the talk about it, the punishment for it and then it's forgotten forever.
Load More Replies...So much broken and soaked tech could have been prevented with the use of condoms.
Do any of these people understand that you actually have to teach children how to be human? That you should keep an eye on them when they're toddlers? That they need to be taught proper behavior?
Toddlers are fast, and unpredictable. Some stuff is going to get ruined. Expect it. It's part of that whole teaching process.
Load More Replies...I am so glad I live alone. And when my daughter was a toddler, she would never would have done the things that these kids have done; I think it's almost all due to bad parenting
You got lucky. My child is neurodivergent. The tantrums were intense. We have specialists working with him 23 hours a week. Trained professionals, and this s**t happens. I felt so guilty that it was my parenting bc of comments like this. Every kid is different.
Load More Replies...To those who commented stuff like “it wouldn’t have happened if you told the kid not to” and “just keep stuff out of reach”, clearly you don’t have kids or younger siblings. Most kids don’t listen when you tell them to stop doing something. While some childproofing can be done, you can’t make anything 100% child or equipment safe. There will always be a way to ruin it. I don’t feel like arguing in the comments, and I genuinely hope everyone has a great day ❤️
most of them are annoying or silly, but a few are just downright evil
This is why I could never have kids, I'd chuck them out a window if they did anything like this
Most of these that involve kids are the parent's lack of properly teaching the kids about how to properly care for things. The ones involving adults seem like pure laziness.
And I live alone 80% of the time, boy do I get irritated by myself sometimes…. The other 20% I enjoy having a 12 year old daughter in my flat, she is chaos personified for half the time and it looks like a clothes bomb has exploded and then she’s super organised and her room looks like Mary Poppins has been through. I can’t explain either state tbh.
I think the title should be changed because it seems like most of these are entitled parents who shouldn't have kids. Yep, kids damage things. It's your failure as a parent for not preventing it or teaching them a different way. Shaming them online just shows you're a douche who cares only about yourself.
Except for the kids, I would go NC on almost all these people. I am too old to put up with most of this. Few relationships are worth this stuff to me anymore. I did it most of my life, ever since I was a kid, and I am done.
I am so very glad that my sister, rest her soul, had a brain . . . and used it..
As a person who made a LOT of mistakes as a parent, let me give you the benefit of age. Kids mess up. They make mistakes. They break stuff. They do stuff you told them not to. They're kids. They're supposed to. It's normal. Don't get excited. Don't get angry. Don't think you were a failure because they blew up the house when you averted your eyes for two seconds. It's normal. Just be calm. Teach them how to clean it up. Explain how to avoid it in the future. Help them not feel anxiety about messing up. Trust me: be the person you want your kids to be when they grow up. Most of these examples above: it's just stuff. So what? It doesn't last forever anyway.
I fee uncomfortable with part of the content. It's one thing calling out lazy roommates and adult family members and completely other expecting compassion and outrage that a toddler threw a sippy cup. You decided to have a child and until certain age kids are not logical thinkers, have no idea of the value of the things around them and definitely do not do things out of spite Why have children if you consider a toddler clogging toilet with a toy a monster. Teach them better as they grow up
Agree 100%. It's your responsibility to explain their mistakes and help them understand why it's bad to destroy furniture, laptops etc. Also, with my children, I explain to them why I am angry (I am not angry with them, but with the stuff they did, for example) and I give them the opportunity to fix their mistake. This is very important in my opinion, because I never got the chance to do so as a child and the punishment was never over. In my own family, there is the bad deed, the talk about it, the punishment for it and then it's forgotten forever.
Load More Replies...So much broken and soaked tech could have been prevented with the use of condoms.
Do any of these people understand that you actually have to teach children how to be human? That you should keep an eye on them when they're toddlers? That they need to be taught proper behavior?
Toddlers are fast, and unpredictable. Some stuff is going to get ruined. Expect it. It's part of that whole teaching process.
Load More Replies...I am so glad I live alone. And when my daughter was a toddler, she would never would have done the things that these kids have done; I think it's almost all due to bad parenting
You got lucky. My child is neurodivergent. The tantrums were intense. We have specialists working with him 23 hours a week. Trained professionals, and this s**t happens. I felt so guilty that it was my parenting bc of comments like this. Every kid is different.
Load More Replies...To those who commented stuff like “it wouldn’t have happened if you told the kid not to” and “just keep stuff out of reach”, clearly you don’t have kids or younger siblings. Most kids don’t listen when you tell them to stop doing something. While some childproofing can be done, you can’t make anything 100% child or equipment safe. There will always be a way to ruin it. I don’t feel like arguing in the comments, and I genuinely hope everyone has a great day ❤️
most of them are annoying or silly, but a few are just downright evil
This is why I could never have kids, I'd chuck them out a window if they did anything like this
Most of these that involve kids are the parent's lack of properly teaching the kids about how to properly care for things. The ones involving adults seem like pure laziness.
And I live alone 80% of the time, boy do I get irritated by myself sometimes…. The other 20% I enjoy having a 12 year old daughter in my flat, she is chaos personified for half the time and it looks like a clothes bomb has exploded and then she’s super organised and her room looks like Mary Poppins has been through. I can’t explain either state tbh.
I think the title should be changed because it seems like most of these are entitled parents who shouldn't have kids. Yep, kids damage things. It's your failure as a parent for not preventing it or teaching them a different way. Shaming them online just shows you're a douche who cares only about yourself.
Except for the kids, I would go NC on almost all these people. I am too old to put up with most of this. Few relationships are worth this stuff to me anymore. I did it most of my life, ever since I was a kid, and I am done.
I am so very glad that my sister, rest her soul, had a brain . . . and used it..
As a person who made a LOT of mistakes as a parent, let me give you the benefit of age. Kids mess up. They make mistakes. They break stuff. They do stuff you told them not to. They're kids. They're supposed to. It's normal. Don't get excited. Don't get angry. Don't think you were a failure because they blew up the house when you averted your eyes for two seconds. It's normal. Just be calm. Teach them how to clean it up. Explain how to avoid it in the future. Help them not feel anxiety about messing up. Trust me: be the person you want your kids to be when they grow up. Most of these examples above: it's just stuff. So what? It doesn't last forever anyway.