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It’s clear that gender differences entail way more than just the way people look or the different things that their bodies go through; they can also present themselves in even the most mundane of things, such as the size of one’s jean pockets, for instance. (Shoutout to wearers of women’s jeans that fit basically nothing in the pockets, while men’s ones could fit a medium-sized lawnmower; or at least they look like they could, when compared.)

But knowing that such differences exist doesn’t make it easier for some people to understand—or have empathy for—those of the opposite sex better. In order to be understood better, women of Reddit recently took to a thread started by a member of the ‘Ask Reddit’ community to discuss the things they wished men would get. Their answers covered everything from menstrual pain to the aforementioned pocket size of their jeans, so if you’re curious to see what else they emphasized, scroll down to find their thoughts on the list below.

Below you will also find Bored Panda’s interview with a psychologist, author of Hidden In Plain Sight: How Men’s Fears of Women Shape Their Intimate Relationships, Dr. Avrum Weiss, who was kind enough to answer a few of our questions on gender differences.

#1

“We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand We don't get colorful hair, long nails, lips filled, make up done and outfits on to appear attractive to men.

We do want to look nice for some men on occasion. But the majority of the time it's because *we* feel good like that.

You think i dyed my hair pastel purple to seem attractive to some dudes? I felt AWESOME with them.

AND a lot of other women compliment you. Which is a nice addition.

So the "actually, men don't like black lipstick" is meaningless. *I* like black lipstick. It is not for you. It is for me.

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Insomniac
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SO MUCH THIS. Sometimes we just want to feel good for ourselves.

LakotaWolf (she/her)
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My boyfriend has told me many times that "fat middle-aged white women" get their hair dyed blue because they're trying to make it "part of their personality" - as in, they only get their hair dyed outlandish colors because they don't have any personality besides "I'm a quirky woman!" I got my hair dyed blue when I was 40, purely because it's my favorite color and I've never dyed my hair before. So I guess I fulfilled my boyfriend's prophecy that fat, middle-aged white women dye their hair blue, since I'm a fat, middle-aged white woman who got her hair dyed blue! XD

Not-a-Clue (she/her)
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think we've previously established your boyfriend isn't the nicest person in the world, so his opinion can fũck right off! I bet it looked/ looks great 😊

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Pencil McGovern
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a straight woman: A straight man telling me I look good? Okay. Another woman telling me I look good? Oh, yeah! A gay man telling me I look good? Oh, HELL yeah!

Mia Black
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I began to wore clothes that looks nice enough to go to a restaurant or theatre just because they feel good and if it's not totally over the top I feel good too. People asked me if I have plans but I just wanted to feel comfy (they are comfy clothes) and it would be a waste of they hang in the closet for years to wait for a special occasion. It felt weird in the beginning but also good. People like to see nice dressed people and see my point of I tell them.

Pencil McGovern
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I encourage everyone to do this if they want to. I was "overdressed" for everything for decades. But *I* felt good and that's what mattered.

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StrangeOne
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've found anything you do to yourself that is noticeable people tend to think it's for the public and not one's self. That's just weird.

arthbach
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a man says something like this, smile, and say, "Oooh, thank goodness. It's sending out the right signals!", and walk away. :o)

Lilybdcsa
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I gave myself a buzz cut and I don't care what others think. I love it. I love the way it feels fuzzy when I run my hands over it. Men can get buzz cuts. Why can't we?

Nikki Gross
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1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I sported a buzz cut for years, not only due to my chemotherapy but because it felt awesome. It can get get hot and humid as f**k where I live and being able to feel a little bit of a breeze or driving with my windows down felt amazing. It also made a huge difference at home with the air conditioning and fans going in helping stay cool, especially when I was having hot flashes thanks to menopause.

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Ivy
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was watching a show (interviews in the library) and the male host was saying that - as a man - everything he did could be boiled down to wanting to be more attractive to women. Now, of course he can’t speak for all men everywhere, but it gave me a lot of perspective and understanding on this tendency to think that what women do revolves around what men want. In essence it’s because they themselves are basically obsessed with us and can’t understand that the obsession isn’t mutual ;).

Kare Deter
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

omg I LOVE this! I wish more people understood! It's not for you, its for ME. You like it or don't? I don't give a single solitary sh*t what your opinion is, mine is the only one that matters.

A Jones
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1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like to wear earrings because I like how they look on me, same with big metal finger rings.

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    #2

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Here's a dumb one: the amount of toilet paper we need to use. I've seen a lot of men complain about how much TP the women in their house go through, and they say things like "I hardly use any! Why can't they learn to live off a few squares like I do!"

    Men don't understand that women have a lot more to clean up. Men usually only use it after going #2 or to clean up a little drip. Women can't just shake it and be done. We also have discharge to clean up, which is constant (not just when we're aroused as some men believe) and it's only worse when we're ovulating. Then on top of that we have periods to deal with. We need more toilet paper than you do! Get off our back!

    RovenshereExpress , Vlada Karpovich Report

    Nikole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex used to complain about this all of the damn time. He stopped when I went off about us needing to wipe pee, periods, and oh, why does your (his) așs itch frequently when mine doesn’t?

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    Boo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When the girls lived at home, my hubs complained about how much tp we went thru.....I can't believe I had to sit a grown man down and explain why we went thru so much! Thankfully he backed off and apologised but had he not, I would have wiped up his remains with toilet paper!

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t even get me started on discharge, it’s SO obnoxious, you either feel sticky and gross all day from a pad, or sticky and gross from the vagina snot.

    Chriss21
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok baby, I'll cut down on the toilet paper. I'll just leave my bloody pads in the bin, uncovered. You don't mind, do you?

    Wolf princess quinn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I just say to the fellas....TRACK MARKS. you leave them, we don't. See a correlation?

    Crescent 3
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man, I only found this out after I got married. My wife and I did not live together before marriage. As a single man living alone, I went through a standard 4-pack of toilet paper about every two weeks. When we got married, the toilet paper budget nearly tripled. Then, because the universe has a great sense of humor, we had two daughters. We've been buying 24 and 32-packs of toilet paper twice a month ever since!

    Leopoldo Pisanello
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same here, wife and two girls. I was amazed how many rolls fly by every week. And let me tell you when they grow up the toilet paper starts to fly even faster. Thankfully my wife told me everything and I as a man really had no way to know it.

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    Detroit Citizen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ive always known this, being the only boy raised by a single mother with an older sister. The last 14 years I took care of my mom before her passing in January. So in like February I bought one of those 24 roll packs. Its now the third week of September and I still have 4 rolls left. I knew but never truly realized how much more women need. Just one of those little things i noticed lol

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just like to make sure I'm clean.

    Nikole
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously. Like that’s wrong somehow?

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    zovjraar me
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i'm a chick and I'M astonished by how much TP i got through!

    featherytoad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I no longer have my period or discharge, but I go through a roll every two days. I drink a lot of water.

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    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The vast majority of men with a working brain in their head understand the important role of toilet paper in a woman's life.

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    #3

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Feminism isn’t hating men.

    Inner_Word_363 , freepik Report

    Breadcrumb.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some men blame feminism for their shortcomings, but when your value is in oppressing women, you're weak.

    Joe Bloe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happen to both man and woman. It's easy to scapegoat your problems onto others, especially if many people tell you it's their fault. Toxic feminism exist too, like toxic masculinism. We just need to be equal and love each other, regardless of your gender. We are all the same deep down.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To me, feminism is about breaking out of the societal norm that women are treated like property, so a woman could get out of the parents home, work, earn and keep her own money, make her own life, and not be "given away" to a husband to be abused and/or controlled. It's also about having the right to participate as an adult citizen of the country, the same way men are. It's not about functioning and trying to be like a man, while hating men.

    LSD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, the F word is definitely misunderstood , and closely associated with misandry these days - unfortunately

    Nota Robot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There too, the actions of the few colour the opinions of the public. My personal opinion is that while I am certainly not "superior" to anyone, I sure as he'll am not "inferior" to anyone either.

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    similarly
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think the women I grew up with ever referred to themselves as feminists, at least not in my presence, but I think they were fantastic feminists. They were well-educated, intelligent, interesting, fiercely independent and self-reliant. I think I was very lucky to have my Mom, stepmom, grandmothers, and aunts. I learned a lot from all of them.

    Mobey Drunk
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One statement I've always loved is "if you feel attacked by feminism, it's probably a counterattack '. This is a fight for equality, not superiority.

    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The entire Equal Rights Amendment is a whopping three sentences: "Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. This amendment shall take effect two years after ratification." That's it. That's what all the hoopla and hatred is about.

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Two major reasons the ERA was originally defeated was the incorrect belief it would give women access to abortion up to partial birth abortion and women would be drafted into the military. I suppose the ERA would mean women would now be drafted but the campaign against it harped and harped on this automatically happening.

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    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends which variant of feminism. Feminist is a generic term to encompass a wide range of ideologies all loosely fitting under the rubric of empowering women. You have conservative feminism, queer feminist, marxist feminism, 3rd wave, 4th wave, 5th wave, and 6th wave feminism, trans feminism, etc, etc. There are dozens of variants of feminism. many which clash with each other. Saying "feminism is X" or "feminism isnt y" isnt accurate unless you qualify which variant of this broad based category you are talking about.

    Julia Ford
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depending on the wave, it very well could mean “man haters.” Pretty sure Valerie Solanas was 3rd wave. Feminism used to have a hard and firm meaning.

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    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grew up in a home with a Mum who had to fight on so many fronts to be acknowledged as an intelligent, experienced and valuable person. She was feminist from the get go. I never thought it was hating men, it was valuing everyone equally. She’s knocking on the door of 80 now and whilst she picks her targets more carefully now, she’s only got so much energy to waste on fuckwits, her feminist values remain, long may they do so, underestimate her at your peril TBH.

    Lena Flising
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Feminism is the radical idea that women are people too. If that is too hard for some men to grasp, something might be wrong with THEIR "people-ism".

    Hinrik Ævarsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are misandrists who call themselves feminists, but just like in everything else, we should not allow the crazies to devalue the true meaning of a word. I consider myself a feminist, but it's hard to say that out loud when even my mother considers the word to mean "Man Hater". But the blame rests more with misogynistists than misandrists though, them being louder and more numerous than misandrists, and more likely to be in positions of power. I never understood the misogynist mindset. What do I stand to lose if women are my equal in all things? The ability to physically, mentally and financially manipulate someone I purport to love? F**k that. Yes we are on the whole stronger and more suited for muscle work, but should that translate to being inherently better at everything? No! I remember my cousin mocking me for losing to a girl at pick up basketball, and I pointed out to her that she practiced and grew her skill, which I did not. She earned her win. It started me thinking.

    Hinrik Ævarsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Continued: about the whole issue of gender and perception of it and ourselves. She may have just been trash talking, but how can that not be internalised? She spoke as if I was weak for losing, instead of celebrating that she was strong or skilled rather.

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    In the thread, women got quite open and honest about the different aspects of their lives, which might have seemed like common knowledge to other females in the community. But to some of their male counterparts, the information might have been something they didn’t know—or didn’t take seriously—before, as men tend to deal with a different set of joys and troubles themselves.

    #4

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand If we have s*x with you, we may get pregnant, even with contraception.

    You may then disappear, even after acting like a respectable person, and fight any ties to your child forever.

    We may be required by law to bear your child, and become a mother alone, struggling to support ourselves and a newborn.

    If we don’t die during pregnancy or childbirth, which is more common in some parts of the US than in any other development nation.

    So don’t ask why women won’t just sleep with you, why we won’t “give you a chance” and just have sex once, or why we’re not going to Netflix-and-chill for the first date. Women enjoy s*x too, but we are facing the rest of our lives potentially raising your child alone, if we don’t die first.

    Mushrooming247 , freestocks.org Report

    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A broken condom on day 21 of my cycle (that lasts usually 30-33 days), what are the odds? Well, meet mini dino! And it was just like described, deadbeat sperm donor bailed out instantly, luckily I have my parents and enough money to support us

    Jesse
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh man. I'm glad it worked for you, that you had a support system and enough income to support your tinydino

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    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. There *are* many other enjoyable sexual acts that aren't traditional intercourse that will lead to pregnancy. Perhaps people just need to open their minds to the great spectrum of sexual pleasure. I'm glad I found someone who does. If "penis in vagina" sex is all you're doing, you're truly missing out on some really nice orgasms.

    Tom De Paul
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Open their minds . . . and their mouths.

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    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't ever let a man get away with leaving you with no help raising the child. If he won't be present maybe your better off because he's an a*****e, but take him to court and make him pay his share or go to jail.

    Lila Allen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's if you can find him, get a paternity test ( which he either has to consent to or you have to have some proof of a relationship to get one ordered) and convince a court, but he can then just refuse to pay and in most states get away with that.

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    FreeTheUnicorn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with this, but also, there's a lot of sex you can have that doesn't risk pregnancy. Stop perpetuating the PIV sex is the only sex. The danger of r4pe is much greater than the danger of getting pregnant.

    Stephanie Barr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men b***h about women being the gatekeepers to sex but, since we deal with 99% of the repercussions, we have no choice but to do so.

    Ric
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man I applaud this !!

    Gry Hansen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The same if they want to use a condom. Why is birth control my responsibility? Oh, but it makes me feel less! If you could manage to hold it a little bit longer, maybe you could satisfy me as well as yourself?

    somnomania (she/her, queer)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    an old friend of mine was born despite her mom having her tubes tied AND using birth control

    Marno C.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's also the very nature of PIV sex, too. If I don't want you in my living room, why do I want you in my body?

    Cat Houston
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why women seek men with resources, too. All of the risk falls on us.

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    #5

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That truly sharing household and domestic tasks means doing it unprompted. I don't want to have to ask you to tidy up or answer questions if it's your turn to cook or constantly manage social calendars and remind you or things. My brain needs a break too and taking initiative means a lot.

    brainsteam , RDNE Stock project Report

    Mia Black
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The constant, decade long problem in my, my parents and many friends relationship. And I believe if the feelings weren't this strong we (women, because we are mostly the ones that have to demand the 'help' of our spouse) wouldn't be in the relationship any longer. I don't want to break up over household but it's draining. I see this in nearly every relationship....

    The Doom Song
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And always make sure you thank each other for doing household duties

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't agree. I don't want my wife thanking me for a routine chore. That implies it was actually her job and I did it as a favor. But it's not her job or my job, it's just a job. But if she says 'oh I'm glad you did that because I didn't want to' that shows appreciation without ownership. I hope this is making sense I'm not sure I'm explaining very well.

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    A Jones
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An independent adult of any gender should be able to clean after themselves and do chores. I work a full-time 8-5 job and still make time to clean.

    Mrs.C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have a traditional division of labor in our house, but we also have a small farm. I don't do ANY outdoor chores, so I don't expect him to do indoor chores. He's pretty tidy anyway, so he doesn't add to the mess in any real way. But I would LOVE for someone to tell me what they'd like me to make for dinner. I don't care to cook it, but I'm sick to death of thinking up meal ideas.

    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I are similar. He works and I stay home. So, yeah, I don't ask for any help around the house unless it's something I physically can't do. Like, recently, replacing the toilet f****e. But I do ask him to please tell me what he wants for dinner at least a couple of times a week. I love to cook but coming up with ideas for every. single. meal. is exhausting.

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    Jacquie Carr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing kills a relationship quicker than a woman feeling like her partner is a child. Not mature enough to take the trash out without being reminded? Not mature enough to be intimate in bed later then either.

    Key Lime
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every day my husband is surprised and amazed that the dishwasher has clean dishes in it that need to be put away.

    Fluffy Cat Sleeps
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This like 8 million times.

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The same thing would happen in a house where multiple women were living or they would come up with a chore/task calendar, like most clean people, men and women alike, would do.

    Jake Bertz
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hot Take: If you decide the space needs to be tidied up, you are the one responsible for doing it. If you're deciding what needs to be done, how it needs to be done, and when it needs to be done, you are not sharing the labor, you're dictating it. And dictators suck.

    Birma Gustafsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If some men didn't weaponise their perceived ignorance and fantastically fail wit even the smallest of household chores, there would hardly be any problem at all!

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    In an interview with Bored Panda, psychologist Dr. Avrum Weiss pointed out that men and women are not that different inherently, but they are socialized very differently. “There is research showing that children as young as four months old are socialized differently by their parents, based on their gender,” he said.

    “Children tend to play in same-sex groups until around grade school. At that point, the girls tend to play with each other as do the boys. The girls play games that help them learn about relationships (playing house, school, or doctor, for example), whereas the boys play games that focus on competition and aggression. When boys and girls get romantically interested in each other they have each been living in very different worlds with very different skill sets.”

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    #6

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand We aren't mad at you because we are on our period, we are mad at you because we have less tolerance for stupid things on our period.

    charesleeray8 , David Garrison Report

    Kirsten Kerkhof
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Testosterone levels are highest in women who are menstruating. Which means women are more like men than any other time. Pot, meet kettle.

    Ash
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS THIS THIS! If women are "too irrational" while on their periods to run a country, then men are ALWAYS too irrational to run a country.

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    Peter Bear
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pain makes people angry, and shortens their tempers. This is true across gender lines and across multiple types of pain. So, I fully respect that a woman might be angrier and less tolerant while she's in pain. But... so can guys. We get headaches, migraines, toothaches. And sometimes we get snappy and don't mean it, and feel bad about it after. Apply the rule fairly, or not at all.

    Rowan Kohler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A man gets a cold and he’s an infant for days and acts like he’s dying, women get their flow and they don’t remember the babying they need when they had their cold lol

    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Less tolerance for frustrating things, too.

    Forfunwa
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure, fair enough, but are you completely unaware that men's testosterone appears to cycle throughout the day the month and the seasons? Never heard of that, huh? And yet, apparently men are supposed to be aware of women's issue of menstruation and what make what change? Make special accommodation for abnormal behaviors?

    Evelien Stijger Martens
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Welcome to menopause, where you litteraly cant handle peoples b******t anymore. During our sycl3 we get mad befor menstruating.

    LynzCatastrophe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The period is actually accentuating it, but I guarantee I'm mad at you for something.

    Ashlie Ann
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the middle of each month, men's testosterone levels lower, and they become moody and irritable.

    Deb Dedon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Has anyone added that those having less tolerance for stupid things during our period can include them?

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    #7

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That my hobbies and interests being associated with femininity doesn’t make them “stupid” or “boring” or any less gratifying.

    fatchancefatpants:

    Why am I called a basic b**ch for liking pumpkin spice and crafting, yet dudes who like football and beer are mAnLy and cool? They're also basic bitches. These things are popular cuz they're enjoyable, let people enjoy things.

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    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish more people understood this. Just let folks live! There's so little happiness as it is.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's nothing wrong with pumpkin spice and crafting, for women OR men!

    Floeckchen
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Did you see those guys dressed up in crazy costumes falling back into medieval behaviour?" - "You mean LARP?" - "No, i ment football fans"

    setsuriseikou
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as it doesn't harm others, whatever you're into doesn't make you a basic b***h. It's what makes you happy and it's totally valid.

    Captain McSmoot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No man is calling you "a basic b*tch" over hobbies and interests. In fact, I can't really recall ever hearing a man use the label "basic b*tch" other than when they're quoting a woman.

    A Jones
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God forbid I want to be creative or draw. Please stop gatekeeping harmless hobbies!!!

    Westy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't imagine any of the guys I know giving their wives or SOs a legitimate hard time about enjoying things like pumpkin spices or crafting. Playful ribbing, sure, but not a genuine hard time about about it. Maybe I just hang with a really unique group of men. Dunno.

    Papa
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too many people don't understand that something is not inherently wrong just because he or she doesn't care for it.

    John Jameson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where are these women living? I have never, ever met a man who called a woman stupid or a b*tch for liking crafts, etc. I over 60+ and I know a lot of guys, hunters, bowlers, democrats, republicans, artists, bankers, truckers, you name it. Not one has ever said or implied this. I've lived from Florida to Michigan and not EVER. I can tell you a dozen places to move to.

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    #8

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand The energy it takes to actually get in the mood enough for it to not hurt to have our *body penetrated*. That's why so many women don't want to do it multiple times a day and aren't ready at the slightest suggestion.

    It's so easy to just get an erection and jam it into something, I wish more men understood that being penetrated is not the same.

    Like, the vagina is a collapsed tube. That's why tampons the size of a finger stay in place. You can't just jam s**t in there. Even with tampons you have to go easy.

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And even if we DO want to, and we're ready to (or we have a little lube to help out), we get sore/abraded down there pretty easily :x

    TribbleThinking
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, one of my many critiques in that list of design faults to the master architect.

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    Verfin22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poke him in the a**s and see if he likes it. It's not all fun and games then.

    Oskar vanZandt
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think p0rn has a LOT to answer for... If that's the only model for s3x you have as a reference as an inexperienced youngster, it really messes up your expectations for s3xual relations... Unfortunately, many men see s3x as a transactional experience, where the woman's interest and pleasure are not prioritised.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They forget that the women in those videos aren’t immediately ready. They have to prep, they use lubricants, they cut in between shots to set up the new angle, and some shots are done out of order because of things like availability of the props, the location, or the quality of the sunlight (for outdoor shots), so there’s more time between the lead up to the act and the act itself than they realize. Porn is fiction, and fiction is fantasy. It’s only for entertainment purposes, where you’re supposed to suspend disbelief, because what you’re viewing has absolutely NOTHING to do with reality. If you expect real life to be just like fiction, you’re only setting yourself up for a lot of irrational and unreasonable disappointment in other people, because they’re just as human, and therefore fallible, as you are.

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    Alexandra Nara
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel this..how often in relationships, the man got mood and expect me to jump in aroused instantely - no matter if the women still doing laundry or cooking. It takes a few moments to get there and it doesn't help if you use nipples like on/ off button or be a crybaby if we don't react as you want us too

    Tyranamar Seuss
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate the thinking that nipples arouse everyone. Some women do get aroused by nipples play and some don't. Pay attention and figure it out! Don't just keep tweaking my nipples when you can see there's obviously very little reaction. And for god's sake, don't squeeze really hard bc gentle did nothing. The boobs are tender, but may not be arousing.

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    Wintermute
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good points, but for the record, it's not "so easy to just get an erection and jam it into something." That's reductivist and wrong.

    VNES101
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. Lots of men have issues getting ready as well.

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    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be higher.

    Dusty's mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some women have internal issues that make it HURT. EVERY. TIME. And don't blab that babies can come out the same way the juice went in. Women's bodies (in a normal pregnancy) change to facilitate birth. But sometimes that doesn't work. Pregnancy can kill the mother, as well as the child, modern medicine be damned.

    Marvin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make him take a dry tampon out to feel how it feels.

    featherytoad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always wondered how much cotton was left behind when I did this during peri when my period was getting lighter.

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    Dekker451
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not necessarily that easy to get an erection "and jam it in" either.

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    “The landmark research of Carol Gilligan, Ph.D. showed us that women are more socialized to focus on other people and relationships than men are,” Dr. Weiss continued to point out, adding that men learning how to listen, as opposed to ‘fixing’ things, is often an important part of what they can do to improve their relationships.

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    #9

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That when we talk about feeling unsafe at night walking home alone and stuff like that... We know, 999 of 1000 men we come across are just normal men heading somewhere, who don't mind us in any way. Problem is, we don't know who the 1 is that maybe has evil intentions.

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    Insomniac
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And telling us the mathematical possibilities doesn't help.

    Little Wonder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once showed someone a photo of a crowded stadium and said "Okay, statistically, some of the men in the photo are dangerous. Most aren't. So please point at the dangerous ones.". He couldn't, and I told him "neither can we".

    LB
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a good way to help someone understand!

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    FreeTheUnicorn
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More than 1/4 women are sexually assaulted, that's the statistics that scares us. You have a far smaller chance of getting hit by a car, but you still look both ways before crossing the street.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And worse, in the USA, out of every 1000 sexual assaults, only 28 will lead to felony convictions, and only 25 of those will get actual jail time, meaning 975 will walk free.

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    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in a rural area with high rates of gun ownership. So I ask them what they'd do if I handed them a gun and asked them to take my word for it that it wasn't loaded. They would all check for themselves and would think I was nuts if I was insulted by that. Works pretty well in getting the message across about how we view men we don't personally know.

    Falcon on Dizzy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is why I never walk on the same side of the road as a woman or even try to get close (unless ofc there's an emergency). I have a lot of (girl) friends who have told me their scary encounters with dudes, and I don't want to ever be seen as one

    Breadcrumb.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the consequences of letting your guard down could be deadly

    Timothy Patel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is NOT 1 in 1000! Do not promote this. It is a serious problem that needs to be addressed and fixed! From their World Health website: A 2018 analysis of prevalence data from 2000–2018 across 161 countries and areas, conducted by WHO on behalf of the UN Interagency working group on violence against women, found that worldwide, nearly 1 in 3, or 30%, of women have been subjected to physical and/or sexual violence by an intimate partner or non-partner sexual violence or both.

    Jessie
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    11 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And this is just an estimate. I live in a small town in the Netherlands and of all my friends and and family I only know one woman that hasn’t experienced some sort of physical violence (with sexual intentions) because she literally doesn’t go anywhere.

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    Vanessa MacKenzie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The actions of a few taint how we approach the world. It's not ALL but we just don't know. When a man from the small % does something to hurt a woman, we women have to change things to stay safe - not allowing our girls to go somewhere alone, schools restricting what they can wear, extra security around our homes and cars. So much advice on how to stay safe. It's exhausting

    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The probability is irrelevant. For many things in my daughter's life I’ll be happy for her to work out the odds, if I get up 5 minutes late and run for the school bus what are the odds on it being late and me catching it? Yep, have a gamble, worst that happens is you get the later bus.. When it comes to being safe I’ll happily never make her take a gamble. It only has to go sour once and that’s that. There’s a reason why her and her friends all have my phone number, one call, wherever you are I’ll be there, luckily I don’t drink alcohol or use anything that may inhibit my ability to drive so I’m happily on call. I hope they never need me.

    Lucy Anderson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a good dad & role model 🫶🏻👍🏻🙏🏻 Your daughter's friends are very lucky to have you.

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    Nizumi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Here's a bowl of candies. One of them is poisonous. Enjoy!"

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    #10

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Just treat us like we are PEOPLE, not just women. That would fix a LOT of things.

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    setsuriseikou
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oooh, so much THIS. Should be taught at school.

    Westy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It should be taught at home, starting at birth.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Man is defined as a human being and woman as a female – whenever she behaves as a human being she is said to imitate the male." - Simone de Beauvoir

    Vera Diblikova
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But - men can be treated like normal people too, not like sexual addict dirty brutes like some comments hint. The world is full of nice people, men and women. Only a little bit of them are morons, on both sides.

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are...women! Do you want to get treated the way we treat eachother? Honey, you'd cry every 10 minutes

    Ashlie Ann
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This needs to be higher on the list.

    Lena Flising
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's important to use the word "people" even when the group described only includes women. We do that when the group is only men, so why not for only women? Like "People who are pregnant tends to xxx". AND, use the last name for both men AND women, not Trump and Kamala, but Trump and Harris.

    Silviu Leibovici
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    but again, mating calls and mixed up signals, plus something called natural wiring makes men search for a mating partner. your parfumes, colorfull dressing and free like attitude, even them heels clicking on a pavement, etc makes people notice you sooner.. some men will take this as signals you are available and maybe searching also.... socialize polite and reject them with strengh but kindness or just keep distance if you are not interested and less confussion / bad feelings might come out of this. and by the way, men are also people, not just free dinners and maybe more...

    Forfunwa
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't this obviously work in both directions?

    cryssH
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and PAY us like we're PEOPLE. That would fix even more.

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    #11

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand We have no control over our periods. Not when they come, not when they go, nothing. And the things we can get or take to minimize them often have harsh side effects that not all of us can or want to deal with. This is something you must understand.

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    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm certain men who can't handle it when women are on their menses are just immature.

    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, but also they learned very little about the topic. Edit: I'm not attempting to justify ignorance. Although, there are headwinds. For example, Florida is directing schools to avoid teaching about sexual anatomy and contraception. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/florida-officials-pressure-schools-roll-back-sex-ed-113944913

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got chewed out by my boyfriend when I got an IUD inserted. Apparently I was supposed to "discuss" such an "important decision" with him. HAHA. NO. Not only have we not even been intimate in 6+ years, my body is MY body, not his. I have horrifically bad periods and I got the IUD to try and help manage them.

    VikingAbroad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And when research did come up with hormones for men, it was like, "we don't want to fill out bodies with hormones.... What about the side effect?" and nothing more was heard about the research...

    ManuelQue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What I heard is that the research did get underway but so many men complained about the side effects that the study was cancelled. Apparently most women did not sympathize.

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    tori Ohno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dated a man, obviously I broke up with him, who told me to go into the bathroom and push. That will make my period and cramps end faster by "squirting" it out. I almost threw up when he said that. So gross

    SkippityBoppityBoo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An ex once said to me when I was having horrendous cramps and was curled up with a hot water bottle on my lower tummy area... "Why don't you just take one of your pills?"... As in my birth control pills... Erm, that's NOT HOW THEY WORK!!!... He became an ex shortly after...

    AR
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men would lose their minds if they had to deal with the mess and the pain of periods, especially when it’s really bad. I just had a period that was so heavy I couldn’t leave my house for three days.

    Susy Hammond
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or you're tossing clots bigger than chicken livers...

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    notlikeyou1971
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not ALL women get PMS. Also not every period is the same. Different women have their periods show up at different times. It's not on an exact schedule for every single woman. Also everyone has different symptoms during their period. It's not a cookie cutter thing for ALL women. Any man who is ignorant enough to run their mouth is going to run into some pretty angry women. I am so lucky I never had a guy ever open his mouth and make comments about that and even luckier that my period days are over.

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My hubby made one dumb comment about periods when we were dating. He hasn't said another one in 25 years.

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    Vera Diblikova
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some women overacted it. Menstruation is a normal part of our lives, we must be used to and not expect the world stops for a whole week or more for every month.

    Melanie Filmer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a husband, 3 daughters and 2 sons. We talk openly about periods and their effects, I want my sons to understand what's going on when/if they have a wife/daughters

    Zaach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recommend donating to period.org - I do

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    But it’s not only men that could benefit from active listening. Any person can arguably make their relationships better and understand the struggles or the day-to-day of others better if they take time to listen to what others have to share; or if they put themselves in the other person’s shoes.

    “Even if you can’t yet be empathic, you can still learn to listen respectfully, assuming that what your partner says makes sense to them and needs to be respected, even if it doesn’t yet make sense to you,” Dr. Weiss emphasized.

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    #12

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand It’s not just that there’s a tiny minority of bad men, it’s that there are a large number of supposedly decent men who tacitly support the actions of bad men.

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    Zena
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Once again, Vinny DaPooh misses the entire point.

    Lena Flising
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lauging along with discusting "jokes" for example, instead of confronting the humorless dolt.

    Rowan Kohler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes the need for acceptance because men often don’t realize how much they don’t want left out makes them the bad part of the bystander effect instead of saying it’s wrong and calling their friends out and risk rejection.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MANY years ago, I had a crush on this guy in High School - until he told a "joke" about rape. He got real ugly, real fast.

    Stephanie Barr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We like to think it's 99 decent men to 1 but reality is more like 30 decent men, 65 men who would do something nasty if given the opportunity, no matter how sordid, and 5 or so that are active predators, shielded by the 65 who are a little jealous. Just ask Gisele.

    Forfunwa
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Frankly, I think you are an extreme misandrist. I sincerely question the validity of your statistics that you're thrown around here. and I wonder what the statistics would reveal for women.

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    Birma Gustafsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A guy in Sweden murdered his ex girlfriend, his friends helped him hide the body, and later him, when police regarded him as the killer. Afterwards these friends talked about how shocked they were, that the killer is really a "nice guy", and they just wanted to help him when they hid the beaten, broken body of a young woman who had a future to look forward to.

    TruthoftheHeart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's also a large number of bad men out there who are very good at playing the good man until it's too late, making it even harder to trust.

    Forfunwa
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So you're claiming there isn't a large number of bad women out there. really?

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    #13

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand I'm just being nice. I'm not flirting or interested in you.

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    Kirsten Kerkhof
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I'm being nice, because if I'm not, you won't be either. And an angry man is potentially a dangerous man.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or I’m being nice because if I’m not, I’ll get fired from this job that I REALLY need to keep from being homeless, a*****e. I’m not a geisha, ffs, I’m just in a customer-facing job where I HAVE to be pleasant to everybody.

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    Starfish63
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So true! Was out with Mr Starfish63 at a bar. Went to bar to get more drinks. Man standing at the bar had a dog so I asked about the dog, etc., because, dog. He turns to the bartender and says 'and that's why you should get a dog. Women fall all over you'. Seriously, dude? With my partner and just interested in more drinks and your dog. You are by far the furthest thing from my mind.

    Jan Bowyer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Slightly off topic, but shame on anyone for exploiting their pet. I hope that dog chomped his crotch, HARD!

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    Max Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if the woman IS flirting, it doesn't mean that they want to have sex with you.

    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG! Yeah , "hello" doesn't automatically mean I want to have sex!

    SkippityBoppityBoo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially if you're working in a bar, either serving drinks or food... It is my job to be polite, cheerful... I have zero interest in what's inside your pants. I am not flirting if I ask you if you would like any sides or extras with your food order 🙄

    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IME, this is far more true in rural areas than in cities. I lived in NYC until I was 55 and don't remember ever having an issue from chit-chat with someone while standing in line or waiting for a bus. But in the rural area where I live now, just saying "excuse me" to walk past feels like they think I can barely keep my hands off them. So creepy and weird. And a very difficult adjustment.

    KillerKiwi
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m being nice for two reasons: either I’m just treating you like another human or I’m laying it on thick bc I’m afraid of you.

    brittany
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    or "im literally at my job where they force us to be nice to you. im not flirting, i just want to pay my mortgage this month"

    Toothless Feline
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m being nice because it’s literally in my job description. Get over yourself.

    Westy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When guys are just being nice they risk being accused of being creepy or making unwanted advances. "I like your coat" doesn't always mean "Let's go to my car and make out." Sometimes (if not most) it just means they like your coat.

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    #14

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That No just means “no” and we aren’t saying "no" to play hard to get.

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    Rinoboyrich
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All men know this. Sadly, a lot of men just don’t care.

    Kitty 🥀
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All men do not know this. Some men know this. Some men hear it as a challenge, a wooing opportunity, the chance to be the romcom hero who wins over the girl.

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    zovjraar me
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i've been seeing some toxic chicks posting about why don't guys keep trying after i said no? i hate seeing those posts.

    Jacquie Carr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of those are now posted by men anonymously; the incel culters were told to spread them around so it looks like it's common amongst women

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    SirWriteALot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish more girls would get this memo, too. Seriously ... don't play games.

    Rowan Kohler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a parental issue big time. Boys are told how to not assault or harass but women are exceedingly taught how to not get assaulted or harassed. Teach boys that girls talking to is just friendly most of the time. You’ll know g you’re being flirted with. If not then you’re not. Never touch anyone without permission. Both men and women dress how they feel and in hot weather skin showing is not an invitation for men. Women can just be friends. Persistence will not win if you are told no once stop they won’t fall for you if keep trying. No is no. Assaulting a girl is never ok and I told my boys I’ll take you straight to jail myself if they ever do. Not learning previous generations and a lack of parental teaching to boys is a big problem.

    John Jameson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blame the movies for some of this. The women who says "No" and smiles coyly while removing her coat.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My absolute favorite take on consent was a British psa called "Tea and Consent". Look it up on youtube. Fantastic!

    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tea and consent. https://youtu.be/pZwvrxVavnQ?feature=shared

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men should understand that "No" doesn't only mean "No". It also means "It won't be any fun for either of us even if you nag me into it."

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You understand that there are many women on social media that are actually complaining when men stop at the first rejection? That they claim it makes them feel like they're not important enough to "fight for"?

    mandi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some women need to learn to stop using it as a tactic. I've seen far too many posts and videos where women complain because he didn't try harder

    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Further to the discussion. Tea and consent…… https://youtu.be/pZwvrxVavnQ?feature=shared

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    #15

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That ignoring their mom being passive aggressive to their gf/wife is actually re-enforcing that behavior and harming their relationship…not keeping the peace.

    boboanimalrescue , cottonbro studio Report

    Alexandra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You should not need to 'keep the peace'. Even if your mother doesn't like your GF, she should behave herself in a civil manner.

    Forfunwa
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like so many of the numbers here, I don't really see how it can be claimed to be gender exclusive. Certain characteristics may, in fact, of course, be more common in one gender than the other. But it is not exclusive, as this article seems to be implying at almost every point. I contend that men and women have far more in common shared humanity than they do in differences. And that includes positive as well as negative attributes.

    Michael Danhauer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can't ignore it, but I can imagine why some try to. It's terrible to be caught in the middle of. You wind up having to hurt someone even if you do the right thing.

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women complain about passibe-aggressive behaviour? Really?? The gender that invented "nothing", "do what you want" etc? :))))))

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago

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    This works on both sides. Really? You're going to allow your father to treat your man like c**p and not do anything about it?

    Red Hair Blue Soul
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You missed the entire point of this article ans reinforced most points of it to us

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    #16

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand The majority of us do not want to see your d**k pics so stop sending them! Especially unsolicited! Keep it in your pants buddy.

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    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best response to an unwanted penile portrait... take a sh*t, photograph it, and send that in response.

    LillieMean
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This gave me a whole new idea, thank you. I'm going to take a picture of my bloody menstrual cup. The second is to ask the man who sent the picture why he sent the genitalia of a minor boy and threaten to report the picture to the authorities, or to be worried and ask if he has been to show it to a doctor and then block them.

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    Falcon on Dizzy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as a guy, lemme just tell yall other guys, just fvck!n stop. would you want to receive a random image of a guys d**k? no

    Falcon on Dizzy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    also* if you send d**k pics, yours is definitely small

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    Vinny DaPooh
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a man even I never understood what the thought process was when guys do that. No clue how sending that unsolicited pic is supposed to lead to her having to have it. It's like the underwear gnomes South Park episode where Step 2 is never defined.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never understood it either. I'm a guy and I think it's completely stupid.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guys, if it was really worth looking at, it wouldn't have time to pose for pictures.

    Panda Boom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's illegal in Scotland, and I believe now in other parts of the UK also.

    Feathered Dinosaur
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's online exhibitionism, the goal is to intimidate and frighten the victims to feel a sense of power and control over them. It's not really meant to attract a woman

    Vivi Pettiss
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you really want to put such a picture online, just get an OnlyFans, please. Don't just send it to people who never asked.

    Adam Zad
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "LOL! Oh, that's ADORABLE! It's so tiny!!"

    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One guy I chatted with told me his was tattooed, and offered to show me. I declined, but sometimes I wish I hadn't. How often do those get tattooed?

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    #17

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That when a man complains that "She needs to tell me what's wrong, I can't read her mind!" she likely already told him 100 times and is at the point where she stopped trying, because he never changed his behaviour regardless of what's been discussed.

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    Stephanie A Mutti
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People taking responsibility to make requests for their needs is a problem that is gender neutral.

    Toothless Feline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We don’t really expect you to read our minds. We just expect you to pay attention. (And I think the “You Should Know” game is insulting to all parties involved.)

    Rosecat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've actually heard a former friend saying about her boyfriend "I won't tell him, he should figure it out himself!" so it's not always like that.

    Montanavanna
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is notorious for misunderstanding me or not hearing what I am trying to say. Instead of trying to get my point across by becoming frustrated and escalating we take a breath. I am quick to yell and he is quick to dismiss. After an hour to a day we talk about it once we have had some time to think about it and reflect. Our understanding of each other is greatly improved because of this. We have been together for 21 years and still have many misunderstandings and disagreements. It is how we work through them that counts.

    Dot Otto
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And yet his boss only has to give him one warning because he's more worried about being fired from his job than he is about being fired from his relationship.

    Rowan Kohler
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Typical lack of observance and empathy education for boys. Parental and education failing again.

    Jill Rhodry
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't disagree - but....he's a big boy now out in the big wide world and part of being an adult is learning and self-improvement

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    notlikeyou1971
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's one of those. They "hear" but they don't listen

    Jonas Fisher
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I literally once had a girlfriend tell me, "If you don't know what's wrong, I'm not telling you." I couldn't believe it. I finally convinced her to tell me anyway. It turns out I had been at work when she came in with a friend. I apparently walked past them without saying hi, but I did not remember them at all (busy bar). It is incidents like that one that lead to guys having this attitude. Please just tell me.

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope, a lot of times you expect us to read your minds...stop lying if you want us to understand you

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    #18

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand I know it’s not just women that this happens to, but not being listened to in an academic/professional environment. We have helpful insights to problems just like men, we are smart and creative and skillful too. I’m tired of having my intelligence underestimated and ignored.

    Enoughforfluffy , Polina Tankilevitch Report

    Insomniac
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, I feel this to my bones. And the he-peat. Woman says something. Gets ignored. Three seconds later, a dude says it like it's his idea, and everyone praises.

    Westy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a guy, I've been aware of that type of 'dismissal' for quite a long time because I've seen it first-hand in corporate meetings - drives me crazy - however I've also noticed a distinct improvement over the past ten years or so. Things aren't yet where they should be and ultimately will be, but progress is progress.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly don't think we need the "I know it's not just women". That's really not the point. This happens to women a LOT. I honestly feel that this should absolutely not be tolerated by anyone.

    SkippityBoppityBoo
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in my early 20s doing an extra part time college course towards my PhD and this older guy in my class who had a good 10yrs on me? I don't know if it was my age, my gender or my ethnicity... Ethnicity because, it's horrible, but when someone is that nasty toward you? It's always in the back of your mind... Anyway... For whatever reason he would constantly challenge my verbal replies/answers in class even if I was correct. At the end of the course? I came 2nd in the class. Gained my diploma and dunno what happened to him mainly because if you're gonna be a sexist Tw@waffle? I'm just gonna ignore ya 👍😁

    Jan Bowyer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reproductive organs do not determine intelligence or creativity. This is the 21st century. How can anyone still believe that?

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I teach at the university level and have published multiple journal articles and a book. I am usually the only woman in the department and also usually a junior prof. Both make for a great atmosphere to be ignored or be told why my idea won't work even if it will and then watch them spend an entire retreat or daylong faculty meeting building a complicated process.

    Forfunwa
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for acknowledging that this is not simply a woman's experience.

    Arabiata Arabiata
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    1 year ago

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    Women are much more better at certain professions than men. Some examples: dentist, project manager, personal trainer, professional driver, interior designer. Women have a flair for meditating on work conflicts.

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    #19

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand A lot of us don’t view you as protectors. I know that’s the image you have been sold since you were a child, but the people you are supposedly protecting us from come from the same group you do. And bad men don’t walk around with a sign saying “I’m a bad man” so our caution has to be applied as a blanket policy. We don’t hate you, we just know that if something bad happens to us the first thing people will do is ask why we even “put ourselves in that situation”. It’s not personal.

    Aethereuz , Antoni Shkraba Report

    SkippityBoppityBoo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Put ourselves in that situation"... That's called Victim Blaming. We did not choose to have happen what happened to us. It was not our fault. The Whole Blame Is On The Attacker... Not us.

    Harry
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women don't put themselves in "that" position No such thing as voluntary rape!!

    Jacquie Carr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We just ignoring the candidate for Presidency who was found guilty of rape and still has plenty of supporters?

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then we should stop protecting you, if we're not your protectors, only people that might be abusers. Okidoki!

    Ashlie Ann
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one is triggering my PTSD. Walking away...

    Rosecat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, men protect us from other women too.

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    #20

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That period pains for 1 in 10 women can be worse than contractions at birth. we are not dramatic or overexaggerating. womens health is terribly lacking and underfunded and we are just surviving out here. It's not our fault and doesn't make us less of a person. extra help with food and cleaning around those pain attacks can mean the world to us.

    Bunnla , Andrea Piacquadio Report

    Winter Eleven
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When i got a tattoo it didn't hurt at all but period cramps hurt like a b***h and even ibuprofen stopped helping (at least i don't throw up all day when i manage to take it a fee hours before period starts-gambling)

    Vanessa Steis
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What helps me it raspberry leaves tea, it helps especially wiothj period cramps and a cup a day is for me enough. And as a plus, I need less pain meds. Which is better on the body. =)

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    FreeTheUnicorn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister didn't think she was in labour because the pain wasn't only as bad as her PCOS period cramps. She did get to the hospital in time, but was really surprised at how close to delivery she was. She had two natural deliveries and says a bad period is about as painful. She was disappointed things didn't get better after having kid though, her doctor claimed periods wouldn't hurt as much after a pregnancy. No explainion as to why, but still hugely disappointing.

    Chris Ulm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went into labor 9 weeks early and thought it was just my son kicking because it wasn’t nearly as bad as my period cramps.

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    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get period pain so bad that I get dizzy and nauseous. I don’t have a condition, bad periods just run in my family. Think about that for a minute. I usually miss around ten days of school a year because of periods.

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a solid point. Comprehension that someone is in pain and needs help isn't that difficult. I don't have to know what period cramps feel like to understand pain. It's not rocket science. If someone is in pain and it's in your power to help them, help them!

    Cheryl Robinson-Atwood
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The world needs more men like you. Hell, the world needs more PEOPLE like you.

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    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never learned THIS in health class.... ("Minor discomfort" my a*s!) Despite using a calendar, I never knew exactly when it would start. Pain (which increased exponentially for the first 4-5 hours until I was on the floor) becoming dizzy, faint, nauseated, puking (and diarrhea, that's fun! Prioritize which end gets the toilet and which gets the garbage can), increasing fever until drenched with sweat ....then it breaks. Fever gone, nausea, and the pain much less. But literally exhausted the rest of the day. Shaking and chills for hours but so much better, that this was a relief. Talked to doctor, told "take Tylenol". Missed school, tests, work...10 years of this!! Got a new Dr, low dose birth control fixed 95% of this right up for me!!

    Mrs.C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's because period pains and contractions ARE THE SAME THING!!!

    Susan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PSA to the other women suffering. I recently started drinking a 'healthy menstrual cycle' tea around that time of the month. It's main ingredient is Raspberry Leaf. You might think there's no way a weak little tea can help more than medication, but SERIOUSLY, try it! It's made such a difference for both me and my daughter.

    Dusty's mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the first few years of debilitating cramps, all I had to fight it was aspirin. Try putting out a forest fire with spit. The game changers were birth control and Ibuprofin (used to be prescription) when I reached 15 years old. I took two, 800 mg tabs of Ibuprofin every four hours for several days. Birth control was the SAME daily dose for ALL women. (Like putting every heart patient on the same dose of meds.) The worst part is when WOMEN don't believe us. My paternal grandma never had a cramp in her life, ergo, it was all in MY head. Had teachers and guidance counselor the same. Maternal grandma got me a heating pad and believed me. Guess who I loved more? Both parents were behind me 100%, though Dad just stayed in the periphery. I knew I could depend on them. Husband also wasn't afraid to buy the necessities and helped me rest. My heroes!

    Roasty Toasty
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when you get period cramps, your basically having contractions to "give birth" to blood clots. and remember, most women started their periods at around 13-15 years old, so imagine being a teenager and experiencing your uterus get beat up.

    Rae Reyn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did not realize I was in active labor with my third child because my period cramps were worse than my contractions. I almost had him in the toilet because I thought I just had to poo.

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    #21

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Pregnancy and post partum is not easy. I’ve seen men make comments with women with hyperemesis “they throw up to not gain weight” l myself had it with my first child and I would want to die smelling cooked food. And felt like I had a violent hangover every day all day long.

    Also now at my age underestimating how bad hot flashes are.

    --dee , Ömürden Cengiz Report

    Feathered Dinosaur
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Postpartum was the worst time of my life, worse even than when I was hospitalized because of severe depression and suicidal thoughts. I had my abdomen cut open and stitched back together, bleeding clotted clumps out of my nethers and had to take care of a tiny thing that kept crying and wanting to be fed every 1,5h - be it day or night. I could hardly move and was so sick because of blood loss. Worst 3 months of my life

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What men don't realize is that during pregnancy a woman's body is fighting against a foreign body (the baby). Some women lose the fight and their lives, and maybe the baby dies as well. All the chemical imbalances are fighting as well, leaving the mother utterly drained. Childbirth used to be a deadly killer: Estimates of maternal mortality, from the 1st recorded unselected series, in the late 18th century range from 5-29/1000. Some of the high figures are from specialists in obstetrics, who treated complicated cases. From these data the maternal death rate was estimated at about 25/1000 among unassisted women. Deaths in childbed from the eighteenth century to 1935 National Institutes of Health (NIH) (.gov) USA https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › ... Modern medicine isn't a cure-all. Glad you survived! Hope you and baby are well!

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    Jan Bowyer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My experience is that a number of men don't take the post partum problems seriously, even when it is obvious and severe. Same with menopausal issues. We know you can't fix it, guys, just be empathetic, kind, and for god's sake, step up and handle household chores and care for the baby so we can take a nap or have a shower. In other words, be supportive.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All men like that aren’t thinking about the well-being of the mothers of their children. They’re only thinking about getting the sex started up again, because it had to stop in the late stages of the pregnancy, and that’s only for the ones who are faithful and don’t cheat—-and they’re all in for a rude awakening when the responsibilities of fatherhood drop on them like a ten ton weight.

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    Mrs.C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never heard a man say that, but I have had them downplay just how much pregnancy messes with our entire body. It's not just carrying a baby. It's you entire nervous, digestive, vascular, and endocrine systems changing. And it's not just pregnancy. HBC has been likened to putting your body into global warming so that a man isn't inconvenienced (ie- has to wear his rubbers). Please don't get me started on what perimenopause is doing to me right now. I feel like Alice in Wonderland: `I can't explain myself, I'm afraid, sir' said Alice, `because I'm not myself, you see. ' `I don't see,' said the Caterpillar. `I'm afraid I can't put it more clearly,' Alice replied very politely, `for I can't understand it myself to begin with; and being so many different sizes in a day is very confusing.

    Tamra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is a fantastic comparison. When menopause fully hit me, I truly did not recognize myself. My thoughts and feelings were completely out of character, not to mention all the other physical changes happening. It didn't help that my mother-in-law lived with us at the time. God, what a nightmare.

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    Uncommon Sense
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Any man who doesn't think pregnancy is anything other than hardcore is a twat. As a guy, I think immense respect is due to any woman who undertakes that feat!!!

    Lou Cam
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had hyperemesis twice, for the full 9 and a bit months. It was like alcohol poisoning where you can't even swallow your own spit without violently throwing up. Can't move or the room spins. I was hospitalised a few times with ketoacidosis and ended up having to take antisickness d***s and PPI's throughout the rest of the pregnancy. They only prescribed these if the harm to you and the baby is worse than potential side effects to the baby I.e. you will die if you don't take them. I still puked 40 times a day but I wasn't in danger of dying. F****d up my teeth pretty bad though.

    Shortstuff
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had hot flashes since I was 40...now 77 and still have them every day. 😥

    Anna Drever
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Early sixties here and I still get them sometimes. It makes you feel lied to. I thought they’d stop once we were through the other side of menopause. Wrong.

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    Rowan Kohler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ive actual never heard that one. They say that? Wow that a lack of education at its finest.

    Rosecat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They've said that about hyperemesis? Yeah, I absolutely loved being hospitalized more than once and having junkie arms from the injection, having to be alone in the hospital instead of with my husband and sleeping alone with depression..

    ROSESARERED
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm at that age that my personal volcano erupts and dries me to wanting to stand in a freezer. Hate menopause...boiling hot when it's freezing in bed, throwing off blankets, trying to find any breeze...hate the hot flushes

    ROSESARERED
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate hot flushes, our own personal volcano...so sick of it...wish it would end....

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    #22

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand If you are in a relationship with a woman and having issues in the bedroom, take a good hard look at how the other parts of your relationship are working. Chances are VERY high there’s a reason why the desire is dwindling that isn’t only s*x related.

    Maximum-Vegetable , Kampus Production Report

    setsuriseikou
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, listen to her. Don't just be there when she talks to you, listen actively and at least try to understand what she's saying. Because chances are VERY high she's been clearly telling you why the desire is dwindling, but you've been dismissing it as a minor issue (source: seeing my ex not listening to me and then making surprised Pikachu face when I told him that was precisely the reason our bedroom was dead and I was divorcing him).

    SkippityBoppityBoo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex knew that I'd been r*ped years before, the night before my birthday. He put on this film that he really wanted me to watch, yes I'm very into films, but it was brutal with a graphic portrayal. I got up, switched the DVD player off and asked him why he was so adamant that I watch that film... He got up silently, got the DVD out of the player and just went into the bedroom. I just slept on my sofa that night. Well... "slept". In hindsight? Given what he said to me on my birthday? Which was the yearly anniversary of the attack?... He had the audacity to wonder why I didn't particularly feel like being "intimate" with him... Some people are just fricken ignorant idiots...

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And please understand that things like menopause or hysterectomy can greatly diminish the hormones (and, in the case of hysterectomy, the internal organs) that are a part of desire, and that will change things a lot. The Big O can become a Little O, or No O at all. You have no idea what that’s like. It’s doubly as hard on us as it is on you, because can be devastating to lose one of life’s best “activities” because you are no longer able to really fully feel anything but pain or nothing at all.

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. What a wonder that things like my boyfriend complaining about the noises I made during sex AND him doing statistical, mathematical analyses on the % efficacy of my birth control (all while refusing to use a condom to help lower that risk-of-pregnancy percentage) resulted in me losing any semblance of desire for sex with him! Oh, him telling me that my body "disgusted" him once I gained weight also added to this, natch. We haven't been intimate in over 6 years. (re: the birth control thing - he used to tell me that my birth control had only a 98% efficacy, so if we had sex 100 times, I was "guaranteed" to get pregnant. Not only is that NOT how the statistics/percentages work, he was so analytical about it that it really ruined my desire for sex. And he never offered to use condoms or get a vasectomy, of course. I bought him condoms several times, even the special "super-thin" ones that are supposed to minimize the man's loss of sensation, but he refused to use them.)

    Jacquie Carr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're a useless lazy child around the home all day then we will treat you as useless children at bedtime. No woman wants sex with a child - it's really not difficult to grasp

    LynzCatastrophe
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, mine had come to the conclusion that I wasn't having sex with him because I was cheating. The reality was i was sick of being his mother and him not putting any effort into our relationship. But no he wasn't getting sex because I must be cheating on him.

    Tommy DePaul
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, lots of action (or in this case - no action. But no conversation. We (all of us) don't read minds.

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    Sordatos
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So automatically is the male fault?

    LA Murphy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. Take her for granted, don't listen/communicate and she's not going to want to touch your penis.

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    #23

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand I think a lot of guys don't really get how if you act like an additional child to be taken care of at home then this is going to have a direct, deeply negative impact on whether your partner sees you as a f**kable competent adult down the line.

    Read: this generally means doing your fair share of housework as another adult in the same household without your partner having to act as your manager. If you've been living here for 5+ years and the house isn't huge, you should generally have an idea of where xyz household item typically gets stored or how to do the laundry. That isn't to say that suddenly doing the chores will fix all your relationship problems, but it's generally a good idea to be like this from the beginning and be consistent.

    This probably isn't that gendered irl but you see this crop up a lot in hetero relationships where somehow the gf has wound up doing most housework, childcare *and* also works full time and the dude maybe mows the lawn once a week or "does household projects" that somehow never actually get completed.

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    LB
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It makes me so sad to see this around me. And, to be honest, I'm relieved to have ended up with a not-male partner. I'm pansexual and I don't hate men, and I'm sure there are good men out there that are capable of being equal partners but so far most of the ones I know any details about are... not.

    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I wasn't heterosexual for that reason. Attracted to men against my will lol

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    Lila Allen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    May I add... WHY THE HELL SHOULD I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHAT NEEDS DOING??? I mean do you not have eyes? Can you not tell the sink is full of dishes? Do you not know how to do dishes? You can manage an entire career at work but somehow need me to point out laundry that needs doing and which rooms to clean?? Explain please.

    Jill Rhodry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, "...this is going to have a direct, deeply negative impact on whether your partner sees you as a f**kable." - problems in the bedroom - look at this first

    James mckenna
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's 3 kids in my house, 4 when I count my significant other

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a lot of men, especially those who try to justify themselves by saying they do ALL the yardwork and car maintenance and their partner doesn’t, is that yardwork and car maintenance only needs to be done once a week at most, and yardwork is really only seasonal, a maximum of half the year in some places that experience four seasons, and as little as three or four months in others. But what their partners do inside the house are chores that have to be done Every👏 Single👏 Day👏, and some have to be done Several. Times. A. Day. Every. Single. Day. In other words, the two types of work do NOT equate.

    Tommy DePaul
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What housework needs to be done several times a day?

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    Matthew Savestheworld
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A secret problem with household chored is not that men need to be told to do them, its that 'twomen actually care about stuff that their man literally never thinks of. Why don't you make the bed before you leave...because it does not matter in any way at all and I only do it when you ask to humor you.

    Becca not Becky
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This!! We want partners, not big children. I want to be a mom to my kids, not to my husband. We are happy to compensate for real issues that come up (i.e. health issues, job loss) but we expect you to do your part.

    LynzCatastrophe
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Literally one of the reasons why my marriage ended. We didn't even live in a big house yet he would constantly ask where something was. He had the most ridiculous excuses as to why he hadn't done anything. And then wondered why I wasn't having sex with him. Act like a child and I'm definitely not attracted to you.

    Susy Hammond
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, the "Fine. I'll do MY laundry, etc.," except that we had a child and a dog, sheets and towels, no dryer, diapers (this was in the 1970s). And cooking for yourself also means shopping for yourself, preparing and cleaning up for yourself, and putting away dishes/pots yourself. Lawn and car maintenance can be done by a third party. Unless you have a live-in maid the others things are not easily done by a third party. What part of: "We are adult human beings sharing a space; we ALL contribute to its maintenance. Do your effing part!"

    SkippityBoppityBoo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always been when its starting to show up towards that I'm expected to do everything in the home by myself - "I ain't your Momma, you're a fully capable adult. You know what needs to be done and when. Plus you are actually capable of scrubbing your own crusty pants tyvm. There's the washing machine, the sink, all cleaning products... Have at it."... I have actually had a few long term relationships btw!!! 😄 We worked it out as in shared jobs in the end!

    Epona
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you clarify what you mean by "I've always been when its starting to show up towards that I'm expected to do everything in the home by myself"? I found that a really confusing sentence. The rest of what you said made sense but that first sentence seems like it's missing a few words

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    #24

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Most adult women have incredibly high tolerance for pain. This can be due to a myriad of contributing factors like menstruation and child birth, but can also be contributed to by factors women do not want to speak openly about, like poverty (not able to afford care or treatment), abuse (mental, physical, sexual), or even fear of being labeled as weak or emotional every time they make a complaint.

    If an adult woman in your life complains to you about pain or illness, please take her seriously. You aren't necessarily responsible for solving it, but showing a little compassion can really brighten their day. Yes, some women will not have a high tolerance, but it's definitely the minority.

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    Pix
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women don't actually have a higher pain tolerance. We have just been medically gaslit into having to put up with it.

    Huddo's sister
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually have a very high tolerance for acute pain. I can tell this because it is very different to my chronic pain tolerance. Nothing to do with having to put up with it or it would be the same for both.

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    Lace Neil
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I went to get my unicorn tattoo (nine and a half hours), my tattoo artist told me he prefers to ink women cuz they will sit still, whereas men will flail about and whinge constantly.

    Boo
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I both have knee probs (he's had surgery, I have not). His was from playing football and mine was 2 separate incidents, falling on ice 3 times and once from falling after tripping over a pothole. He received an MRI and I received an x-ray.....like really??? My knee still isn't right and have to be careful that I don't tweak it the wrong way. My treatment was physio and 3 years on hasn't gotten better so I just learned to live with it.

    Shortstuff
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A man goes to the doctor for pain...comes out with a script for painkillers. A women comes out with a script for Valium because it's all in her head.

    Tommy DePaul
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm male and I would prefer the Valium. A lot of pain is the worry (anxiety) that it will continue instead of going away. I had a root canal and my dentist gave me Librium rather than Percocet.

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    Liz The Biz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suffer with migraines that are sometimes so painful that I can't walk across the room and can last for days. When i have a migraine, bright lights and even the slightest noise are unbearable. I don't know how many times I've explained this to my hubby. I had a bad migraine last week and my hubby got in a strop because i didn't want to go for a walk in the blazing sunshine. He seems to think that because I'm still alive it can't be that bad and that I can just carry on as normal.

    Winter Eleven
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When i first started my period i was in so much pain and i told my dad who said it's not that bad and I'm going to get used to it so i (unintentionally} threw up on him and mumbled I'm getting used it while i stayed home from school for the first three days. Also before i didn't want anyone to know I'm out of because of my period but now as an adult i don't hold back, I'm feeling like s**t because of the period i didn't want in the first play. It's like a subscription you can't cancel (can pause in case of pregnancy)

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I had bad period for 30 years and even though exams looked normal, I struggled to have a child. Now I take progesteron and I don't have period anymore, no more pain, no side effects. I happily canceled my subscription.

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    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a low pain tolerance and a fracking high pain med tolerance. You can hit me up with Dilaudid and double dose of morphine and I'm still in pain. Found that out the hard way after breaking my back and the anesthesia wearing off after a spinal fusion and two nurses not doing their job in reading my chart and not calling my surgeon as I was sobbing and near screaming in pain. My eyes had swollen shut from crying so hard. It made for a lovely time trying to get half of my pain level down but the pain docs wouldn't give me more b/c it's "not recommended." My hubby would be high off his kite for 1/4 of what I needed after the surgery.

    Anna Drever
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have fibromyalgia on top of all the rest and it gets to where you’re so used to regular pain that it becomes background noise. It’s only when it ramps up a notch or two that you really suffer. I doubt most men, who aren’t fibro sufferers (I think about 10-20% are men), would be happy to deal with pain 24/7.

    Wolf princess quinn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are just capable of handling ppls s**t better. Mostly cuz men arent

    Lucky Barrett
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a professional tattoo artist. I can confidently say that women do in fact that have a higher pain tolerance.

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    #25

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand We deserve equal pay.

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    Oskar vanZandt
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Equal pay for equal work should be guaranteed...

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And an equal chance at those higher paying jobs.

    Captain McSmoot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Equal pay for equal work and equal experience in the same company is a must!

    Adam Benson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my working experience, I've found that not all men earn the same wage. Some women earn more than others too. It's not simply a gender issue, more to do with seniority and experience. I do agree, however, that women are more likely to be discriminated against, due to the expectation that they'll eventually give birth and take extended leave.

    Forfunwa
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely agree. But I can't help but point out that there are quite a few Republican women that do not even support equality for women.

    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then start looking for jobs that pay more, like construction, mining, oil, plumbing etc.

    Roasty Toasty
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    how do you expect us to pay for basic necessities on top of menstruation products and other needs when we get payed less in the first place?

    Ronald Robin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Huh? The Gender pay gap has been debunked before...

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    #26

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand We’re not trying to start arguments because we’re bored. You did something that upset us and we’re trying to communicate that to you. We don’t sit around thinking of problems just cause.

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    Khavrinen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The majority of women don't, but some do. AND SO DO SOME MEN. That isn't a gender thing, it's a "being an @$$hole" thing.

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. This is a$$hole exclusive behavior, not gender exclusive.

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    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The hubby and I have some fights about this still. We've been married 25 yrs and he thinks I'm looking for s**t to start rather than listening to me regarding the issue. I have multiple disclaimers now before I address the issue. It works alot but we went through a period of fighting over fighting. I asked for a legal separation but that might have been the tipping point because we started talking about this direct issue. Glad we both settled and started talking.

    #27

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Sometimes men just don’t get how important it is to listen and validate feelings instead of trying to fix things right away it’s not always about solving problems, sometimes it’s just about being heard.

    bellaerayy , Samson Katt Report

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's important to note that both sides need to have some give-and-take in these situations. Ladies, you're wanting him to listen to you vent and pay attention while he may naturally want to solve your problems for you. You're expecting him to do something a tad unnatural to him. You should preface it with (or add to it if too late), "I just need to vent..."; give him a cue to push aside what he would naturally want to do so that you will have what you need from him. Gentlemen, if she won't come out and tell you, "I just need to vent...", as soon as you can, ask her, "Are you just venting or is this something I need to help with?". If venting, listen, LISTEN to her, push aside your natural inclination to solve and experience this time with her.

    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As women, though, we can acknowledge that men are raised to be "fixers". Telling them a problem they can't do anything about can make them feel like failures. So it's also okay for us to say "I know that you can't fix this, all I really need from you is empathy." I've found that most men are pretty good at it once they learn that we really won't look down on them for not being the savior they were taught they always have to be.

    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ladies, guys simply. don't. vent. like you do. It's not fair to expect a guy to "just know" whether you want a sympathetic ear or when you want to work out a solution. At the very least just say, "I need to vent" and then he'll understand and be there for you. It took awhile, but I've learned to just listen and not offer any help unless she asks.

    SirWriteALot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Should I just listen or offer a solution" is what I sometimes say to my wife. I don't understand how you DON'T want to solve a problem but I have learned that this is how you want it so ... tell me what to do :-)

    Susan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because we've probably already thought of all the same "solutions" and realized why they won't work. At least that's my experience with my husband. So then I'm already worked up and have to get even more frustrated by explaining why each of his suggestions aren't possible.

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    joann fielding
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes it's a simple as ASKING, "Do you want to be helped, heard, or hugged?" The 3 'H's'.

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Somewhere in male upbringing we get the idea were supposed to fix things.

    StrangeOne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to be hear and validated, but I also don't want to be told what I need to be doing to fix it when I likely know what needs to be done and how. Sometimes I just need a good cry and/or someone to actually help me and support me when it's a real bad time.

    Vinny DaPooh
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fair enough. We need to find a compromise in the middle because we put no importance on the feels and vents. For us it is here's my current most pressing problem and I need to think solutions through. Of course there are plenty of men and women that don't fit neatly into this conundrum

    Forfunwa
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Come on give me a break. Are you gonna tell me that there are not vast numbers of women who don't listen and validate feelings of others? This is. not a gender problem It is false to claim it. And many of the claims in this article falsely link these characteristics to gender when that is not the case.

    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, those damned men, they can't be different than how they actually are to suit our whims...

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    #28

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Groping your gf/wife constantly is not as hot as you think it is. We are objectified like that everywhere. Having it done to us at home, too, is a HUGE turnoff for a lot of women.

    That_Weird_Girl_107 , Tim Samuel Report

    setsuriseikou
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I suggest you ask your wife if she likes being groped by you at home. Since women are people, and therefore like and dislike different things.

    FreeTheUnicorn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This just goes back to know your partner. If mine isn't grabbing at me when I walk past, I know something is wrong. It's one of the things I love about living with him, it's reassuring and a confidence boost. Know your audience.

    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Always get consent before doing such stuff. Ask your SO if she likes it, and if she does go on by no means. If she's uncomfortable, stop. Communicating is the key, as in most things

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And consent isn’t automatically baked into marriage. Your spouse has the right to say NO, just like everyone else you aren’t married to, and you should just reply OK and not act all offended. We don’t become your own private sex toys just because you put a ring on it.

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    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask each person if they like something.

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or closely watch their reaction, which may be more honest.

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    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do not disagree with the statement. Let's talk about a guy's motivation for this behavior. It very likely includes reassurance that he is important to her. After all, he can't do this with anybody else. He doesn't understand how it comes across and feels hurt by her reaction. He's never felt objectified, so it doesn't occur to him why she reacts displeased. He still craves reassurance, even more so, which can make him try again. So much misunderstanding and buildup of resentment results.

    Ephemera Image
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good point. I confess I never thought of it that way. Communication, as always.

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    Scott Rackley
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good lord boys, work on your form. I'm sure most guys wouldn't like your girl to walk behind you and goose you in the taint (I said most). Don't grab, twist or poke. You can touch just using fingertips.

    brittany
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yup, my kids dad used to do that to me all the time. butt and boobs. constantly multiple times a day. i used to put myself up against a wall or leave for work when he was in the bathroom so he couldn't touch me. he used to say "if i don't do it , who will?" ideally, no one. i don't like being harassed and assaulted daily which he was well aware of. he knew how much i hated it

    Karen Mercury
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right. Like those are the only two parts to your body. I think it comes from watching too much porn. After 30 years I have really started to cringe.

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    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're touched at home my your S.O., you are not being objectified; you are being loved, wanted, and desired. Physical touch *is* a love language. If it's not yours, tell your S.O. and both of you find a way that 1) he can express his love towards you and 2) you won't feel groped by your S.O. Just like you feel groped (which seems a bit extreme), he may feel like you aren't in to him anymore because he can't touch you. If both may realize that you're no longer right for each other. One desires more touch and the other does not. That would be a deal breaker for some and rightfully so, especially if your S.O. has always been the type to touch you. If it was cute when you were dating, why is it no longer the case for you. Do some soul searching.

    Susy Hammond
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A responsive kiss or hug does NOT mean "I want sex this minute". Often times the "groping" is hinting/telegraphing a desire for more sexual interaction. Maybe the other person just wants a kiss or a hug.

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    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask first. Some women like it, and some don’t. It also has a lot to do with who’s present in your home at the time. Sometimes things I’d be ok with if we’re alone are different than the things I’d be ok with when we’re not.

    Nina
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe ask if they like it first. I like it, so hubby's always grabbing me.

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    #29

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Men having a smaller paycheck is fine, but them being insecure about it is REALLY unattractive.

    WineAndDogs2020 , Mikhail Nilov Report

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife always made more money than me. I found living with that extra cash in the budget to be more than bearable.

    Lila Allen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well that's because you're an actual man and are capable of telling the difference between yourself and your paycheck as a source of worth. Please teach others.

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    Oskar vanZandt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My self worth is not related to my income... I would have no qualms being with a woman who earns more than I do again.

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My hubby loved letting people know I was the breadwinner. When we worked at he same university, he in admin and me the Prof, people thought he was the prof (sooooo irritating) and he loved setting them straight. But I usually have the greater paycheck, so he's my trophy husband.

    Matthew Savestheworld
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MY wife made more than me for most of our marriage. Until we had a kid. She was a stay at home mom for a while, and could not get back to work at what she made before. I really miss her making more money than me.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just like women have always been proud of their husbands who do really well in their careers, because that highly successful man actually CHOOSES to be with me!, men should be equally as proud of their wives when they’re successful, because that highly successful woman actually CHOOSES to be with you! So don’t become an a*****e about it and make her CHOOSE NOT to be with you, ffs.

    LynzCatastrophe
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bah. He was very insecure about it, and yet would do nothing to fix it. And also had no problem leeching off me.

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is it more unattractive than the fact that they have a smaller paycheck, or less?

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    #30

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand How much our menstrual cycle affects us, not just the bleeding part. Hormones are a hell of a d**g. E: Not to mention hormonal birth control means we have to handle added hormones and side effects.

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    LSD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s extremely frustrating when men complain about this. They have no clue that we can’t control it, and they don’t seem to realise that living it is MUCH worse than having to deal with someone going through it.

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They can leave. We have no recourse but to live with it. And it's a real deterrent to libido.

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    Rowan Kohler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men have testosterone fluctuations and it’s not taught as well as female fluctuations by far. If men were taught they get fluctuations with no schedule or reason sometimes and what it does to them they might get. It’s the regular timing for most women when they have the biggest fluctuations that make men not even think they have issues and most are never taught the signs. Testosterone fluctuations can make men irritating to be around as hell.

    Isabella
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, it is affecting us, but using it as an excuse for a bad behaviour is not OK, otherwise we should not wonder if men are asking women when they are angry if they have their period.

    JenC
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a problem when men dismiss a woman's opinions or emotions because " she's probably on her period."

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    Ohoi!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fun fact about how hormones affect your body. I'm type 1 diabetic. One week I need x amount of insulin. Week before periods I need three times more insulin. During periods double amount and a week after my pancreas is magically cured. And this is just one organ affected by hormones.

    Susy Hammond
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If periods were just wearing pads/tampons and needing to use the toilet a lot, having cramps, etc., that's one thing. But periods also mean washing blood out of your sheets and clothing. Or maybe you get migraines at the same time. Or maybe the thought of food is nauseating. It's a whole world for each menstruating person and not the same for each.

    #31

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Sometimes I’m quiet because I don’t want to talk or have nothing on my mind. I also look out the passenger window when I’m a passenger because I like looking out the window. It’s not because I’m mad, it’s because when I drive I never get to look out the window!!!

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    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is absolutely not gender specific.

    Toothless Feline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, but women being quiet or looking out the window is interpreted as “being upset” far more than for men.

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    Bored Seb
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    please do look out the window when driving too... there's not only the windshield!

    Susy Hammond
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a reserved and shy person. I have resting "almost sad" face. I do not smile on command. It doesn't necessarily mean I'm not interested in listening.

    Robin
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And sometimes I'm quiet because nobody actually cares anyway.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Robin, I don't know you, but I really hope you find some nice people who care about you and care about what you say.

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    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Idk why but this one is rlly funny to me😂

    Arabiata Arabiata
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    1 year ago

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    Sometimes I’m quiet because have nothing on my mind. I also look out the passenger window when I’m a passenger because I like looking out the window. It’s not because I’m staring at the girls on the pavement, it’s because when I drive I never get to look out the window!!!

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you... understand that a man spouting a "male"-ified version of the comments in a "Things That Women Wish Men Understood About Women" is incredibly insulting and demeaning, and, is, at worst, saying "Yes, that's nice, dear, but let me tell you how it is to be A MAN!" This isn't your space to tell us how a MAN feels during a car ride or what a MAN does during a car ride. This is literally a space for women to say things they wish men understood about them. We are not trying to *not* include you, as we know you have feelings and emotions as well, but we are trying to beg for YOU to understand US. By forcing your male perspective into this list, you are disregarding our need for your understanding AND the value of our feelings and explanations.

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    #32

    Mansplaining is incredibly frustrating.

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    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think in a few cases, guys are just figuring out, verbally, what she already knows. In a similar vein, I had a manager who would walk around asking his people what tasks they were working on. After hearing the explanation, he'd restate what he was told in words that sounded like he was telling the worker to do what they were already doing. This frustrated every one of us. One day, after hearing him repeat what I'd just said, I replied "Right" in a way that made it clear I thought he understood what I said. That shut him up. He said "That's good" and then walked away.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s not mansplaining, that’s just repeating back. Mansplaining is when the man doesn’t give the woman a chance to talk about a subject before he launches into a lecture like he’s some kind of expert—-and usually gets it completely WRONG, because his sources are usually very misguided and often totally incorrect pop culture social media and blog rants, instead of scholarly, peer-reviewed, professional books and articles—-then is totally butthurt when proven wrong by the woman, who then reveals that, in fact, SHE is the resident expert on the subject. She invented the thing, she is working in that field, she is highly educated in that subject, she has written several scholarly, peer-reviewed articles on the subject, as well as several books used as references and additional reading in advanced university classes for those majoring in the subject. Just because someone is female doesn’t automatically mean their head is empty. Women actually do better scholastically than men, and graduate both high school and college in greater numbers than men. Considering those statistics, who’s the real dummy?

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    Winter Eleven
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dad mansplained something (don't remember what) and i just said it's great he remembered what i had told him about this thing he was explaining about.

    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I slap my new coworker for talking to me like he's Mr Rogers, and I'm a 4 year old? No? Fine, I'll just start calling him Roger. I'll have HR explain to him why

    Rae Reyn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Think about it like a toddler telling you a fact he just learned. "Wow, that's really interesting. thank you for sharing."

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    Toothless Feline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people think aloud. I myself am a communicative thinker; if I try to think purely internally, my poor working memory (thanks ADHD!) gets in the way and my thoughts get stuck in a loop. When such a person is saying something that they know the other person already knows, they may be simply establishing where their thoughts are in that moment to move their train of thought forward.

    Dekker451
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Mansplaining" is a sexist term that silences people based on their gender. Condescension is *not* limited to one gender.

    Jacquie Carr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mansplaining is telling women something we already know or have not asked you to explain to us. It's not sexist to tell you to shut up, we don't need your input

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    Jacquie Carr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Realised recently that although men talk (moan) about mansplaining quite a bit, most of them don't actually know what it is.

    Starry starry night
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the repetition of saying it’s over and over again

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So it's not ok when you're treated the same way you are treating men? Huh, who knew??

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    #33

    If a woman breaks up with you randomly one day … remember that she broke up with you months or even years ago in her mind.

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been planning mine for at least 10 years (have been in the relationship for 23 years total.) I tried to leave once, he said he'd change, I stupidly believed him. The leopard put a nice coat of paint over his spots that washed away in the next rainstorm. The leopard truly does not change its spots. I'm now navigating a SAFE escape - I didn't live with him the last time I tried to get out of this relationship, and now I do, and I have 4 pets, so I have to be so careful.

    Alexandra Nara
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    " hold tight is loud- let go is silent" be aware when the girl beside you gets quiet. she is already cutting the last thread

    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was three months before for me. He knew, though. I think he did, at least. We both knew I wasn’t happy. But only one of us knew that I tried to stay and make it work for so long because I didn’t want to hurt him, but ended up hurting him more in the process. I’m sorry, M. Wish I could go back.

    LynzCatastrophe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had finished crying so long ago. I had checked out. He convinced me to give it one more try. For whatever reason, I did. I wasn't at all surprised when he didn't try at all. He still expected me to do all the work, even saving a marriage that was dying because of him. He just knew he'd be homeless without me. We'll, the last and final time, his parents took him in. They are not happy with him.

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    #34

    Stop hitting on people at work. They have to be polite for you and it forces them into a conflict.

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    similarly
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would add: Don't hit on people at YOUR workplace and don't hit on people at THEIR workplace. Don't flirt with employees, staff, etc. Never flirt in a situation where the other person can't easily walk away.

    Captain McSmoot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had to pretend to be the bartender's boyfriend a few times at a pub, but I knew her well. I sat down to order a Guinness. She grabbed my hand and told me a guy was flirting with her. She said it was subtle so he could easily deny it or pass it off as a mix up if she brought it to the manager's attention. The master creep was in the bathroom and would be back. When he returned, she and I were talking like couples do. She went back to work serving drinks and such. He asked for another, but obviously flirty. I waved the manager over and told him I didn't like the way this customer was flirting with my girlfriend, the bartender. I asked if he could help. The manager smiled, pointed him to a table in the back corner, and said it was free. The guy didn't like it, so the manager told him his drinks were on the house, but he needed to leave on his own accord within the next minute or he would help drag him out once her boyfriend and his pub pals were through. He left. Never came back.

    Lena Flising
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People at work can't just leave if they are uncomfortable or scared. They have to stay until end of shift. Oh, and politeness is not sign of interest.

    Rosecat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of the time I hated it, but a couple of times I liked it.

    Scott Rackley
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never get your honey where you get your money

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Private life is private life. Work is work. The two should never meet, except under strictly orchestrated circumstances (bringing a date to the company picnic and following the strict etiquette for behavior around the bosses). Don’t s**t where you eat, and definitely don’t s**t where the other person eats either, especially if they in no way invited you to. You are the one who looks like a creep in both scenarios.

    Sordatos
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And we're all supposed to work like 40 hr per week but life rarely falls precisely into neat boxes

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    Lena Flising
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Learn the differences between being polite/nice, and being flirtatious/attracted.

    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another issue that it's not gender specific...but I guess women are exempt...again

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    #35

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That women aren't a monolith. Just because your ex liked x doesn't mean your new girlfriend will. Just because your mom likes x doesn't mean your aunt will. Just because your sister had light periods doesn't mean your friend is faking her pain. And on and on. Women are people and while they share common experiences, they have their own preferences.

    Like 90% of the ask women threads are removed because they aren't asking women general questions about their experiences in being women. They're incredibly specific questions that they should be asking their girlfriend or their mother. (I. E. Will my girlfriend like x in bed, what should I get my mom for mothers day, etc.).

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    setsuriseikou
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women are people. Sadly, an idea completely incomprehensible to so many.

    Feathered Dinosaur
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's almost as if... women were people! 😱

    Daria
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We're all people first, and only then [gender].

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because your ex treated you like s**t doesn’t automatically mean your next will do it too. Don’t punish US for what ANOTHER woman did. We are not her, ffs!

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men at the same time complain that women are inconsistent but assume they are all alike.

    tori Ohno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean, women aren't one big hive mind, all connected together as one giant alien creature?!

    brittany
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my kids dad would always talk about how his ex liked butt stuff. good for her, keep it away from there. i do not want it or like it

    Manana Man
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Treating the other sex as a monolith is a problem in both directions. We're seeing some examples right here.

    Captain McSmoot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a two edge sword indeed and you are very correct. (I'll see you on the other side of some extreme downvoting, but you typed the truth.)

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    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not gender specific...again. But women are exempt...again

    Sordatos
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The irony is this whole thread assumes men are monolithic

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, we are dealing with generalities. The title is things women wish men knew. It's not some things some men wish some men would understand. We would need a thousand disclaimers and qualifiers to talk about any specifics. I don't identify with everything here and my hubby doesn't do or not so all of these things. It's not meant to be a monolithic article. General.

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    #36

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand To the older men out there - menopause is a roller coaster of physical and emotional changes. Please educate yourselves about it and be supportive and patient.

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    Boo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would suggest they educate themselves on their partner's medical issues....not just menopause as it would show us they actually care about us.

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never understood why more couples don't receive educational courses about this together and even couples therapy. How could it be a bad thing for both to be educated about what's happening? She's never had menopause before, so it's new to her. He's never needed to be with someone going through it, so it's new for him. They both need education. Couple therapy would be excellent to help both navigate this change and to make sure the marriage stays healthy and grows even stronger. Stop separating the sexes and start having them learn together about each other.

    similarly
    Community Member
    1 year ago

    education is a wonderful thing.

    Lucy Anderson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fell out with my brother for 2 years after he ridiculed me when I was talking about his wife's possible peri-menopausal symptoms. Told me I just made up "peri-" 😂 Idiot. He was bullying me (as usual) and I finally stood up to him instead of doing the usual for an empath - "don't rock the boat" Took 2 years to get that apology.

    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hold your horses with the ‘older men’ thing I’m knocking on the door of 50 and I’m currently learning about perimenopause, my partner has a few symptoms of it. So less if the older bit eh? I’m a young 49 ok? Ok. 😂

    Dinu Bogdan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So is andropause, but, hey, we're just men, who cares, right?

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A woman's hand can be a great addition to your sex life. It works like your own, only can feel so much better when you're free to enjoy the ride. It's a marriage saver!

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Menstruation, menopause, mental illness... Have you noticed how many problems start with "men"?

    #37

    Stop taking "starting a family" so lightly. Creating a child is 99% a woman's work and 1% a man's pleasure. Put yourself in her shoes and think twice before pressuring her to have a(nother) child, or mocking her because she didn't bounce back. Pay some respect because you did absolutely nothing.


    Also, since we don't live in a vacuum and we inherited gender roles, put much more effort in your family because I swear that your partner is doing way more than you think. You are not a fifty-fifty couple, especially if you have kids.

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    Kelly Scott
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guys, we all know there are some men who are right there when it comes to doing the housework, changing the diapers, and getting up in the middle of the night. You're not the ones this post applies to. This post applies to the OTHER 97% of men who don't lift a finger when it comes to their home or kids. So please don't get defensive when you see posts like this. Believe it or not, if you are the one guy that is doing everything right, you don't have to tell anybody. Any woman will be able to see that in a mere second (if other men can't see it, they're deliberately being obtuse). You guys are the cream of the crop and you have our undying gratitude. Thank you.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t forget the ones who b***h about not being able to have sex in the last few weeks of pregnancy plus the time after the child is born that the woman needs to heal—-properly—-especially if she had a C Section. You know, go grab a sock ffs. My body just made a person—-who is half yours, btw—-and gave birth to them. It’s been through a lot in the last 9 +/- months. Just keep fapping and when I’m all healed up, I’ll let you know. Just QUIT pestering me about it!!!

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    Lena Flising
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The future mom is literally doing body-building; she's building a tiny baby-body inside her own body. All energy and nutrition from her system is primarily turned toward the baby-system, she's second in line for everything, and will be extra tired, hungry, short-of-breath, etc. long before she LOOKS pregnant.

    catpanda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, two children is not just a little more work than one. It's a ton more, and some people may not be willing to take that on.

    Rosecat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is absolutely amazing, he says he would love to have another child but he will be content to just stay with the one we have now, cause he saw how pregnancy, birth and PP affected me.

    KillerKiwi
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And don’t start talking about it when you’re young (like still in highschool young), especially if your gf has said she doesn’t want kids or she doesn’t want to talk about it. You might think it’s cute, but it’s a lot of pressure and quite frankly, it can be annoying.

    Anonymous
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    Ladies, men are utterly dependent on you to procreate. Women can decide to have a child and all it takes is one session with a man, and he never has to know she got pregnant. Men have to find a woman, convince her to stay with him for at the minimum of 10 months, and she will be forever part of that child's life. I am older, and have been married a long time. And I do the cooking, housework, laundry, dishes, clean bathrooms, and I dust and mop. When my kids were little, I got up in the middle of the night to change diapers and feed them. I am a retired mechanic, with a full time white collar job. So I keep the cars running, I fix all the appliances, fix the internet, fix the computers, do household maintenance and lawn work. The only thing on that second list she helps with is the lawn work. So you need to "pay some respect" and realize that not all men sit on the couch watching football and burping for you to bring them another beer.

    The Other Guest
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know, I was with you on this right up to your "not all men!" ending.

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    Erla Zwingle
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    So let me interpret this situation. As you describe it, one might consider you to be as much a victim as a woman is who finds herself doing virtually everything at home. But before you pat yourself on the back at how freaking competent you are and tell women to stop criticizing men, take a few minutes ask yourself why you are doing everything? Gives you an enormous ego boost? Makes you feel like you're king of the world? (You ever encourage your wife to do any of these tasks, or have you pushed her aside because she's not a genius like you?) I don't feel sorry for you, and I don't admire you for being so fabulously capable. I think you like it this way. I actually feel sorry for your wife.

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    #38

    Being arrogant isn’t hot.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The complication is that anyone who thinks they're humble isn't.

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    zovjraar me
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    confidence is hot, arrogance is not.

    SkippityBoppityBoo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once went up to a guy to ask for directions, he was stood outside a pub smoking and I said, "Hi, I'm sorry but do you..." and before I could finish saying "... Know where (street name) is?"??? He said, "Hey I've got a girlfriend okay? Get over yourself!"... So I went inside the pub to ask for the directions from the staff, got them and looked him up and down as he was stood at the bar and said, "As if!" then left. Not every single person wants to get into your pants... Sorry to break it to ya! 👍😁

    Vivi Pettiss
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being confident is, arrogant isn't.

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Arrogance is knowing that you're going to succeed. Confidence is knowing that you'll be okay even if you don't.

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    #39

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Your jean pockets are much deeper than ours, hence our fondness in bags.

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    Zena
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your jeans have pockets, full stop. It's shocking how difficult it can be to find women's clothes with pockets at all, let alone useable ones. Yes, most jeans will have pockets (but not all) but even those aren't always useable. I'd say a large majority of other pants, shorts, skirts and dresses do not.

    Cee Cee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a red letter day when I find a dress or skirt with decent sized pockets. Jackets with miniscule inner pockets really annoy me. Jeans? Gave up and bought mens.

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    Westy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fair point, but if someone tried to pocket everything my GF carries in her bag they'd need Hammer pants with kevlar-lined cargo pockets (and probably suspenders to keep them up).

    S Bow
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly why I don't carry a bag, they're junk collectors. I have my wallet in one pocket (of my mens jeans) and occasionally my phone in another pocket and that's it.

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    Lace Neil
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I own two dresses with pockets. I don't understand why this isn't the norm.

    Stephanie A Mutti
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What absolutely stuns me about pockets on women's pants is OFTEN they are there and it's a matter of unstitching at the top to make the pocket accessible. WHY on heavens do they PUT the pocket there and then seal it off??????

    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes manufacturers (of both men's and women's clothing) sew pockets (called 'basting', it's just a few stitches) shut to keep them from getting stretched out before they're sold. Like when people are trying things on, they can't stick their hands in the pockets and stretch them. Men's suit jackets are almost always sold with pockets sewn shut.

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    Arabiata Arabiata
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I apologise on behalf of the dress designers, this is also the fault of men.

    Dusty's mom
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buy pockets! Cobble them onto the worthless excuses called pockets on your clothes. I just gave up complaining because they're not listening. Doesn't have to be a great sewing job. Doesn't show from the outside. Pockets can be bought online, Walmart, and any sewing supply place. Make 'em as deep as you want! I prefer my own pockets now and probably wouldn't like what the manufacturers do if they even put bigger ones in. Look up: https://www.mdhistory.org/the-ongoing-evolution-of-the-pocket/. If the manufacturers won't do it, do it yourself! Also: Sew New Pockets in Jeans: https:// www.instructables.com (pockets like men have!). You're not alone!

    Birma Gustafsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As late as 1919 women had pockets so big they could actually carry a whole book in it, even two if she wanted, but then the clothes got lighter, slimmer, more revealing, and no more pockets.

    Shortstuff
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even the pockets in a lot of my jackets will only hold a tissue.

    Key Lime
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hubby likes me to carry his keys and wallet and phone in my purse because it weighs him down. Yeah, I want my purse to hang on my shoulder all day weighing 15 pounds.

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be way, way higher on the list. The rest are arguable, questionable, and some just down right false clams. (Currently #42.)

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    #40

    You are allowed to cry and have any negative emotions you feel. You get sad, be sad. It is okay.

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    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guys, if she ridicules you for not being manly, find a different girlfriend.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ladies, if he rolls his eyes at you for being justifiably angry or sad, find a different man. One who actually cares about you this time.

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    Steve Flynn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not true. You get penilized especially by women

    Birma Gustafsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's more likely men are afraid to be mocked by their friends than their women, but most men are afraid to seem weak to their women too.

    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Untill you use it against us :)))

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's funny that so many male BPers had to post that not all men are like this, I'm not like that, stop lumping all men together, etc. Now that the posts are about his emotions, having friends, and whatnot, no woman is saying that not all women think these things, don't lump all women together, etc.

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    #41

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand That they need each other. I wish they could get past the programming or the perception that speaking to and loving their friends is not "weak" or "gay" or in any way a bad thing.

    Too many men want women to fix them by providing them with the type of friendships women have between themselves, with the bonus of s*x. That's not how it works.

    You are capable of (and very much should be) leaning on each other. Not us.

    YOU CAN DO IT!

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    lenka
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So very much this. I was so amazed recently one of my husband's best mates passed away in quite traumatic circumstances. The guys have all been friends since primary school and as soon as the news was known they made a group app, just the men, not the wives. While their friend was in hospital they held vigil together, again, just the men, not the wives. When he passed they came together and cried. They called each other daily. They are still grieving but they are also checking in on each other, letting the other guys know when they are not ok and actively seeking and providing support. I have never seen anything quite like it among a group of men and I am so grateful to all of them. Of course my husband leans of me for support, but I am not his only pillar.

    Dusty's mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The essence of real manhood. What I wish for all men. My heart's out to your husband, his mates, and the grieving family. ♥

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    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand that many men these days can’t get past the idea that cleaning their asses is gay, so why would you expect them to start thinking showing any kind of platonic love for their best friends isn’t gay? Only the most enlightened and evolved of men can do that—-thank goodness their numbers are growing with each successive generation—-but too many of them are still dragging their knuckles and beating their chests.

    BarfyCat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the things that makes my husband so amazing is that he always tells his friends he loves them!

    B
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women aren't therapy centers.

    SheamusFanFrom1987
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I have 4-5 B4Ls (Bros 4 Life).

    Mia Black
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have intelligent men around me. They know this is true. Yet they barely take action because it feels weird to them or something like that. I feel like I have to engage more in social gatherings just so the men can bond (with women and men) because when I'm gone I want them to have a social net

    setsuriseikou
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah, that's very much how it works for me. I want my man to be able to lean on me, just like I know I can lean on him. I don't want him to treat me only as a woman, and I don't see why we shouldn't be friends with the bonus of s*x. Because to me s*x is exactly that: a bonus.

    lenka
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is my best friend and he can lean on me. Always. He can ALSO lean on his friends.

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    Sven Grammersdorf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 40, been married for 14 years, and I don't have any male friends

    Mia Black
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But why? Don't you want friends? From your name I assume you could be German and wet least where I live it's work to become friends with German but if you have you stay friends if nothing drastic happens and you can count on them. I was always the shy, bullied kid, teenager, young adult and an it inside even today but I learned that there are so many others like me and if nobody acts then in the end we all are just lonely. So I overcome myself and make the first steps, plan game days or creative meetings to get to know other people who may become friends later. I then keep contact. Often times just through messenger and silly stuff I've seen online but as weird and dumb this feels for me as a sender they all feel like I've thought of them and that strengthens the bond. They assured it to me and it would be the same when I am the recipient. It's not easy to overcome oneself and you become vulnerable but also you can get the treasure of friendship which will help you heal if you fall

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    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, but women friendships don't actually last, not even close to how much the male friendhips do...

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    #42

    That most of us don't actually like doing emotional labor all the time; we're just socialized for birth to provide that service for men.

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    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think women get stuck in this role because of the way boys are raised: to hide emotions and 'be a man.'

    and_a_touch_of_the_’tism
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s a lot of people that believe that girls mature faster. Maybe that’s true in some ways, but for the most part, it’s because they’re forced into caretaking roles from a young age.

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    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way we praise men versus women. Men are praised for their individual accomplishments, women for sacrificing themselves for others. 'He's so good at sports!' 'He went to med school!' 'He has such a great career' vs 'She is taking care of her elderly parents' 'She's such a good mother!' 'She always thinks about everyone'

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was at church choir practice when I was about 17. The woman director had to bring her baby who was definitely in the crawling phase. So I offered to take the baby and we played down below from the choir before the altar. Soooo many women told me after practice that I was gonna make such a good mother. I basically crawled along with her and then turned her around when she was going to far and we'd crawl some more. I just smiled b/c it would cause more trouble to say there ain't no way, no how I'm having kids.

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    Tabitha
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Emotional AND mental labor. Who is the one ways stuck having to schedule everything, buy the tickets, reserve the rentals, get the kids—-and herself AND her husband—-packed and dressed fed and cleaned up after being fed and ready to leave on time, while her husband just has to take a shower and get dressed? Then who is it who loudly bitches because the wife and kids aren’t in the car ten minutes before time to leave?

    B
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women aren't therapy centers. The lonliness epidemic is self created but guess who they want to fix it?

    Arabiata Arabiata
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You hurt me by serving me. I'm a grown-up person, I can take care of my own needs, like cooking, houseworking, going to the grocery, etc. But when I'm tired of daily work, please give me some emotional support. You know, a woman makes a house a home.

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    #43

    Being independent doesn’t mean we don’t want love.

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    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right. Independence is about needs, not wants.

    Alexandra Nara
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well said.. I loved to be wanted or loved but I am quite uncomfortable being needed. I am ready to take the responsibility for myself and my part of the relationship,I don't want my partners one.

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    Tabitha
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Independent women don’t NEED to be with you. But if they are with you, it’s because they WANT to be. That’s a very important difference.

    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Even a girl boss needs a forehead kiss sometimes”

    Matthew Savestheworld
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And conversely... wanting love does not mean that a woman can't be independent

    Gavin Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My partner is independent, I love her. She loves being loved and I do too. It’s not a reflection of our ability to stand on our own two feet. Sometimes we are a united front, a team, other occasions we go solo and deal with stuff alone, and we also head into things knowing the other one has our back, they will be our support. You can be all things you want to be, all you do is communicate effectively and trust each other.

    Robin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Being independent means I don't need you. So IF I choose to talk to you its not because I want something..

    Rosali LC
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or that we also like to be coddled and cuddled sometimes.

    Dinu Bogdan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First you have to make up your mind about what indeoendent means

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    #44

    That just because you have the girl doesn't mean you can't lose her, no matter how much they love you. You start to get so comfortable that you stop trying and start to treat them like an option.

    Once they start to change with you it's not because we found another guy, we just put as much effort as you do or treat you like you treat us. Then we slowly fall out of love and we just stop arguing , stop complain. If we bring stuff up it's not an attack towards you . If you get defensive and turn it around on her. Then she will stop coming to talk to you. By the time you realize it we have already checked out.

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    Learner Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The opposite to love is not hate; it's indifference.

    This panda says ur worth it
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love me or hate me for either are in my favor if you love me I will forever be in your heart but if you hate me you'll forever be in your mind (paraphrased)

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    Shelby Moonheart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a couple of my friends are in that process. They are still married, but they are not TOGETHER in anything it seems.

    JK
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should be so much higher up the list

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    #45

    At sex:

    it's not because we show or tell you that what you're doing is good, that it mean "go faster and harder". NO!!!!

    It means keep going and change nothing.

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    Mimi M
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't stand it when a man thinks that pounding at a woman's body automatically feels good to her. For some (or in some circumstances) it may - for many (or in many circumstances), it may not. Ask, be aware, check yourself. You may be having a good time - she may most definitely not be.

    Tabitha
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those who think pounding penetration is the one and only key to orgasm, and totally ignore the clitoris.

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    Kari Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most men prefer the intensity increasing the closer they get to the climax. Most women prefer a steady intensity once it has reached the sweet spot. (But of course, the best way is always open communication about what each partner wants.)

    Joanne Hudson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Conversation/communication during sex is okay.

    Jacquie Carr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some places, 0.5mm off target and you may as well not bother at all; if she says that's good, keep going where you are and at the same speed

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    #46

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Many men might not fully understand the pressure women feel to balance multiple roles in their lives, whether it's career, family, or social expectations. It can be overwhelming, and sometimes they just need support and understanding.

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    Mia Black
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then some men say "then just don't do it". But if we don't, they won't either, things keep undone, social bonds falling apart because they need at least a bit of contact and so on...

    Captain McSmoot
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those "many men" and those women just don't want to sympathize out of selfishness. Women and men have to balance different roles in career, family, and social expectations. Everyone feels overwhelmed sometimes. It's extremely important for a woman to voice to her man when she's feeling overwhelmed and it's extremely important for a man to voice to his woman when he's feeling overwhelmed. If one is and the other isn't, then the stronger can uplift the weaker. If they both are, they will instantly know they are not alone in their feelings and are actually united in them which can often lead to a "second wind" for both, helping them continue on.

    Starry starry night
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Often expected to look after and keep in touch with family members, your and theirs on top of a normal work day

    #47

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand When i first met my now husband he didnt understand why women are scared of most men. it wasnt until i was harassed, stalked and humiliated by men that he completely understood, he apologized for never taking me seriously before.

    it didnt take long for him to come to the realization, which honestly happened within the first few months of dating.but gross men being gross it happened a lot where we used to live, my husband has saved me many times, and ill always be thankful for him.

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    Diolla
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "women are scared if most men" sorry but that is a bit of a broad generalisation..... I suppose it depends on your specific environment. Most women I know are not afraid of men at all. Which does not mean that this is the case for all women of course 🙂. Just to be clear, I'm a woman and I have experienced bad men.

    Dusty's mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get it. I'm also a woman who grew up among good men who respected me, but I give no quarter to a strange man. I. Just. Can't. Trust. Them. It's a survival thing. Women need to listen to their guts.

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    Birma Gustafsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Women are scared of some men, and on her guard against most. We are vigilant because we have to be. Most men take out their frustrations and angers on the woman in his life, be she wife, mother, daughter or sister, or maybe just the woman who passes him on the street on her way home.

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    #48

    The vagina is a naturally moist place. When we say we’re dry, don’t imagine skin dry. Imagine your mouth. Normally it’s a wet place right? But when we say we’re wet, it’s noticeable. Like you smell something delicious and you’re salivating so much you have to swallow. THAT IS WET. Not normal mouth feel wet.

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    LakotaWolf (she/her)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it REALLY hurts if you try to force your way in (even with a finger) before we're ready. :x "Haha, she said it hurt when I shoved my ween into her" isn't the flex a guy might think it is.

    LillieMean
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a really good metaphor.

    Learner Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was dry for many years with my first husband. Second husband gets it right every time!

    Susy Hammond
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had more than a few lovers over my lifetime and I can't tell you how annoying it is when you have told them, over and over, "I like it THIS way because it helps me get ready" and they continue to just do what they've always done. Now that I'm in my 70s I am just so grateful I don't have to have sex with anyone or even long to have sex with anyone. If I want to climax, I know how to do it all by myself.

    Lena Flising
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, imagine really dry eyes; that's pretty awful, isn't it? Not a sexy feeling at all, right?

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    #49

    That we understand you better than you far understand us. Not only are women generally given a lot more social training than men, and raised under the expectation of being empathic caregivers, but the male experience isn't really an avoidable one.

    I grew up reading books and watching movies with male protagonists about male issues, not because I sought them out but because that was just the books and movies there were. Meanwhile the majority of movies don't even pass the Bechdel test. Understanding women is optional, the female experience takes effort to find and learn about.

    I see reddit threads titled things like "Men, what do you wish women understood?" and its full of things that pretty much every woman has known for years whether we wanted to or not. We know what you feel. We know why you feel it. And we're stuck over explaining for the nth time why we're nervous around strange men.

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    Feathered Dinosaur
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Books and movies about female issues, with female protagonists are 'niche'. Children's books about princesses are 'for girls only', but books about a boy doing boy-stuff are 'for everyone'

    setsuriseikou
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Er, no, we don't understand you better than you understand us. Just like us women, you're not a hivemind, every one of you is a unique human being, so please communicate your needs and concerns to your SOs. Oh, and listen to what they tell you, too.

    Arcady Royzen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would respectfully disagree with these statements. you think you understand us? you simply put every man into a "simple-minded, wanting one thing only, grown up with child brain" category. BTW, we don't treat all of you as mommies, barbies etc... we also want a partnership, a trusting one to say the least...

    Dusty's mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a woman in my 60's and this is not necessarily always true. I learned a lot by actually listening to my husband. He's unlike any man I've ever encountered, and I seriously underestimated the depth of him, though I've worked with more men than women. I've seen too many women left in the dust because they assumed they understood men without actually listening to them. Men aren't cookie-cut any more than women are. Please don't use media as a major resource. If you want your man to respect you, really try to "get" him.

    Skara Brae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why guys often don't recognize what women think are overt clues. Sometimes we need a flashing neon sign.

    Jacquie Carr
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When men say "Women don't understand that men aren't allowed to cry" *eye roll* By whom? It wasn't women who imposed that rule on you. Change it if you don't like it

    Matthew Savestheworld
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah..this is a going to be a person by person thing

    Ohoi!
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just read that kind of thread, and yes, nothing new there. All those things were just common knowledge.

    Michael Largey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't have the data to prove it, but I suspect there's a direct relationship between the level of a woman's understanding of men and her life span.

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    #50

    “We Are Not Pretending”: 50 Things Women Want Men To Finally Understand Saying things they don't mean because they think it's what we want to hear.

    I don't care who responded badly in the past. Each person is a new page and they should not be held responsible for the transgressions of past partners. If you can't adequately separate the two, you should not be actively dating. Or, at the very least, have excellent communication skills and be able to talk through what is going on in your head.

    It's exhausting getting the flip flop and whiplash of men who say one thing and then do the opposite a short time later.

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    Pencil McGovern
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feels like this applies to all genders and orientations. Anyone can bring baggage into a new relationship and it will always create issues.

    Daria
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I need to show this to my bf...

    Katiekat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But do you really need him in your life? Esp if he does this...

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    Sordatos
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How exactly is this gender thing?

    Sophia Athene
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    B/c it's a list about things women wish men understood. Women wish men understood this. That it can be for both genders is moot b/c it's not the focus of this article.

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    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hmmmm... lets examine the evidence ;) "Do I look fat in this dress?" how many boyfriends and or married men would truthfully answer this question? hahahahah

    Sophia Athene
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine. I asked him to be honest and he asked what my response would be if he said yes. That I would change into another outfit. He has been honest with me for over 20 yrs

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    Jacquie Carr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the opposite of this - saying things during a fight then saying they didn't mean it, they were just angry when you call them on it. Don't care, you said it, let's deal with it by having a nice long chat about our relationship

    Rosecat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The irony might be lost in this one. "I know not all men but definitely men, so I am cautious of all men" also "I don't care who responded badly in the past, don't generalize women"

    #51

    That fights never “come out of nowhere”. I just moved past this life lesson with my S.O. We generally get along and I let him lead the relationship. I also bring up concerns, that turn into conflict, that turn into problems because he was neglecting the need to acknowledge it and how it made me feel. It takes two ppl to have a relationship. Remember guys you can both be burnt out but how you handle and process is not how your partner does so. What could originally been “I wish you’d pay attention when I talk to you” turned into “you consistently neglected our relationship to the point I doubt if you care for your relationship or your partner, correct yourself or accept that you are liable to the consequences.” Don’t be that guy that brings a girl to that point.

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    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I prefer to walk together rather than have a leader.

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My girlfriend asked, "Are you even listening to me?" I thought it was a strange way to start a conversation. Remember, though, if a man says he's going to do something, he'll do it. It's not necessary to remind him every six months! 😆

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    #52

    Men often don’t get how much we appreciate little gestures. Can be the most simple things, doesn't have to compliment a tight dress and lie how good it looks.

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    Pencil McGovern
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For many women, receiving compliments and being affectionately touched in ways that are wholly unrelated to sex can make us more receptive to compliments and touches that *are* sexual. When we're only approached for sex, we tend to put our guard up whenever we're not explicitly in the mood. And that not only kills spontaneity but also creates emotional distance.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Complimenting the small things shows you're paying attention.

    Erla Zwingle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband brought me a rose one day for absolutely no reason (that's great). We couldn't find a vase, so he put it in a bucket filled with water. (Great beyond belief. Will never forget it.)

    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and do you do this? if yes, what is it?

    Oskar vanZandt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you don't know what small gestures are that a woman may appreciate by now(you appear to be an adult male in your avatar) then there really is no hope for you...

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    #53

    For the single dudes. I’m only going to put in as much effort into this conversation as you are, and if you don’t seem to put much effort into having a conversation then I know you won’t for having a relationship. I’m not ghosting you because I’m an a*****e who has 50 different options. I’m ghosting you because you can’t even be bothered to google basic questions for getting to know someone.

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    LSD
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m SO sick of guys matching with me then not responding when I message them. F**k them!

    Pencil McGovern
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Years ago, when I was on a dating website, I put a lot of effort into creating a profile that had a lot of conversation openers. Open-ended comments about my work and books I love and things like that. So when I got a message with just "hi" or "what's up?" I'd just ignore it. My now husband asked me a question about something I'd written and added his thoughts on it so I knew right off that we'd be able to talk. And, more importantly, that he *wanted* to talk.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Almost seems like those generic short messages are automatically programmed to send when they match with someone. Totally impersonal and existing on autopilot. Just like the person you matched with.

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    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re not competing with 50 different options… you’re competing with me. With my solitude.

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    #54

    Menstruation jokes are never funny.

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    Erla Zwingle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey Polterbean. You're a man, right? Because women don't make jokes about menstruation. The idea wouldn't even occur to a woman. I wouldn't know how to even imagine a joke about menstruation. Menstruation as a concept has even less potential for humor. Good God, just stop.

    KillerKiwi
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Quit generalizing. Not all women are the same.

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    Polterbean
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disagree. But it's not jokes that someone is menstruating, but jokes ABOUT menstruation as a concept.

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could you elaborate? Are you saying that you think it's funny to joke about menstruation as a concept, but not joke about someone specifically when they are menstruating?

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    #55

    If I ask you if anything is wrong and you say “nothing” for situations where nothing is wrong AND situations where something is wrong, I’m gonna keep asking because you’ve conditioned me to think something is wrong when you’re silent.

    And it is going to be literally as simple as a kind and caring “I promise you that I am honestly not upset” to ease my mind. If you get annoyed at my anxiety, it’s only going to make me think something is definitely wrong

    And I put this here because I’ve never had this issue with my girlfriends. Just boyfriends and my dad.

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    Manana Man
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you crazy? Of course women do this too.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes we say “Nothing” because when we did say something you overreacted then managed to somehow turn it around to yourself and make US into the bad guys. So it’s just better not avoid all those horseshit male theatrics.

    Skara Brae
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like anybody, he might be trying to avoid a fight about something he knows is his own problem. Like, realizing is expectations are unreasonable. Talking about it will make things worse, either because it would make him seem stupid or because he will have to admit he's just not very desireable.

    Oskar vanZandt
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He could just provide a little reassurance by saying how he'd rather not talk right now but "I'm not upset about anything to do with you/us".

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    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, silent treatment is EXACTLY what MAJORITY of WOMEN do! and we are supposed to read your minds.... if you dreamt about something we did in your dream and got totally pissed off about it... just an example ;)

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    #56

    We don’t need to be “saved.”

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    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I am drowning, or being chased by a bear, or trapped in a burning car, then sure. Save me, ffs. Otherwise, chances are I can take care of myself and do not need any kind of saving. Chances are also that you are definitely not a hero in reality, but have deluded yourself into thinking you are. The test would be how brave you re if you’re around when I’m being threatened by someone way bigger, stronger, richer, more powerful, or more famous than you are.

    Huddo's sister
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like from someone/something? Or saved for later?

    #57

    That when we're ranting, having you listen and pretend to agree goes a long way. I don't want to hear how "It really isn't that bad" because right now, at that moment, it is THAT bad. That is why I'm talking to you about it.

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    Jay C.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I noticed this, so now when my wife says "let me get your advice on this" or "what do you think about this" I give my 2 cents, if she doesn't say that, i just listen and nod along, I've noticed she, most of the time, will start it as "Okay, so listen to this..." so that's what i do

    Captain McSmoot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just be in her corner like you would want her to be in yours. If there's some correction that needs to happen. Wait until later. Bring it back up with a "You know, I was thinking about what you were saying the other day..." It'll be WAY better received later and it'll give you more time to think about whether it needs to be said at all. Time is on your side.

    Mez
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep the ranting to your girlfriends.....my so of 20 years still doesn't know how to deal with a any form of complaint. Almost seems like he will go out of his way to discredit why I was upset in the first place and makes me feel like I'm just whining.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is not the ranting's audience. The problem is your so.

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    Erla Zwingle
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    1 year ago

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    Well sure you can rant to your girlfriends. The point here is that men still can't grasp the idea that you are communicating to them. If they don't know how to respond, they really need to try to learn. Otherwise why bother saying anything to your guy? Just go talk to your girlfriends.

    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so cute... are you sure you are actually communicating? or you are telling us riddles that we need to decipher? you don't want to hear something that might true? it is your problem then...

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    #58

    Male friends in particular;

    How other men treat us when you're not around. It's a jarring difference.

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    Papa
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone having this problem needs a man with better friends.

    AsylumWalker
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn't necessarily mean his friends. Women get treated differently by random men when they have their male partner around vs not. Especially people like mechanics, car salesmen, tradies.

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    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They behave when the mutual male friend is around, and do a complete Jekyll and Hyde change when he isn’t.

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    #59

    They are not as great at s*x as they think they are.

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    Oskar vanZandt
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everyone needs a little confidence boostn the s3x department now & then... Being/becoming a caring, switched-on lover depends on open, honest communication. Hopefully that is the basis of a healthy, intimate relationship we should all aim for...

    Alexandra Nara
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    most girls fake not to tell them. A fragile masculinity is either dangerous and try to fight back or needs comfort, what doesn't make an hour of bad sex better. Tell them not they failed,but tell them what you like even more and how it feels for you...most guys give it a try And woman too, we are quite fragile sometimes too- so change gentle and grow together.

    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we can fake an orgasm as well ;) sex is only enjoyable if both parties are active participants. you want us to listen? great! we want that too! would you listen to us about what we want? i wonder... So, it goes both ways. both sexes have bad experiences in life.

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    MC C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I'm shyt at sex, but women tell me that I'm not, so there's that

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