Delving into history is arguably the most interesting journey one can take. Learning about different cultures, events of the past, people that made a difference, and songs that ignited change—there is so much to unearth and familiarize yourself with.
But most people usually want to learn about something nice, something that inspires, moves them, or makes them smile, even though the dark side of history is equally—if not more—important. Today, it’s the latter that we’re focusing on. On the list below, you will find stories shared by members of the ‘Ask Reddit’ community after one user asked them for horrifying facts and events that are not widely known, even though they arguably should be. Scroll down to find them but browse them at your own risk, as they shed light on some of the most gruesome parts of our history.
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The Suffragists Night of Terror November 15th 1917 where 33 women fighting for the right to vote were picked up from in front of the White House and put in prison. They suffered beatings, being forced to stand/hang all night with their hands tied above their heads, being thrown around and smashed into iron furniture, and humiliation at the hands of guards. One woman was knocked out after having her head bounced off an iron bench and her cellmate became so distraught (under the impression the unconscious woman was dead) that she suffered a heart attack. She was denied medical care until the next morning.
These women were picked up off the street and thrown in jails where they were abused with no access to council. All because they dared ask Woodrow Wilson to allow them to vote.
EDIT: My comment shouldn't have more upvotes than the thread, be sure to upvote the OP! They're the one who inspired this comment :).
Those days may well return fairly soon. In the next year or two if Project 2025 is fully implemented
We are living in scary times: media is complicit and conciliatory instead of adversarial, plucking activists and deporting, disappearing people into prisons. It ain’t good
Load More Replies...And now we're right back where we started, thanks to millions of Americans who voted fir Trump/Musk/Project 2025. Stay classy garbage humans
And millions more who could have changed the outcome but didn't bother to vote.
Load More Replies...Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Beware.
Second Congo War in the early 2000s left 5.5 million people dead.
Deadliest war since World War 2. A poll showed 91% of Americans had never even heard of it.
With all due respect to Americans (USA), their country is a world itself. There is so much diversity and difference, that they tend not to look outside their own country, because they don't need to. There is a saying "Go to the US, and see your own country disappear". I have experienced this. Now. Time to unleash the down-voting kraken!
This is a great way to put it I'd never really considered before, but as an American, it makes sense. We have a decent amount of resources, so we don't worry about fighting another country for them too much, (sorry to Hawai'i ) and the nearest country to where I live is probably over a day's drive away, so we don't worry about our neighbors or their wars. We could still stand to be a little less stupid though, lol
Load More Replies...How can people be so oblivious - I’m Irish we’re a neutral country. I don’t need to be aware of wars generally, or N Korea.. doesn’t impact me what goes there or the fate of the Uyghurs. What a mindset to have. People never fail to shock me
If the media doesn't report it - how are we supposed to know`?
Load More Replies...I heard of it while it was happening, but it was severely downplayed.
NOT an excuse, but there were some other things going on in the early 2000s that might have overshadowed this. But I agree, all these kinds of horrifying even must be equally reported everywhere. Maybe get a few of those "reporters' covering Taylor and Travis to do a real job.
Upvoted because it's a perfectly reasonable comment. There was THE thing, and then the other thing, and we all know that media coverage of Africa is close to non existent. Not only in the US, in my country we only heard about it tangentially.
Load More Replies...Isn't it amazing how we spend so much money on education in the US and how poorly we're educated?
One of the primary issues is how history is taught. From my time in school, history was taught "from the beginning" starting at the earliest European settlement in N. America and moving toward the present day, and largely ignoring anything that happened after WWII. I was lucky enough to take an (at the time) experimental history class which started with present day events and worked backward exploring their origins.
Load More Replies...Shameful to say that most Americans haven’t heard of this conflict because, quite frankly, we can afford to be oblivious. It has literally no effect whatsoever on our lives so, while sad, it isn’t surprising we don’t know of it.
I was aware of the conflict and the brutality of it, but not of the label given to the war.
Not a surprise. The Americans don’t really stand out for being educated…
I dont think its just a USA issue, I’m from the UK and I’ve never heard of it until now. What were the UK and USA’s roles in the war, that might be why
That as bad as North American slavery was it was far worse for the slaves sold in South America. The average life expectancy was 6 months, 2 if you were working in a mine. About 35% (11 million) of all slaves were sent to Brazil, 5% (388,000) were sent to the US. Despite this the US had more slaves than Brazil at all times solely because the slaves in Brazil died so many quickly.
A slave life expectancy in South America was 23 years lower than a slave in North America. Mostly due to the harsh conditions slaves faced in Brazil. ☹️
Another reason was that the importation of slaves was illegal in the US after 1810-ish (I may be off by a few years there). And while smuggling definitely happened, and it sounds terrible to say, in general American slave owners had a more limited supply, and therefore it wasn't financially viable to work American slaves to death to quickly. That's not to say that it didn't ever happen, or to defend American slavery in anyway
Load More Replies...Not all slaves where black and more exist now than ever. How can we as a species not move past this barbaric act?!
This occurs when humans don't consider fellow humans as "people", or when people see those from other cultures or beliefs as being inferior or "sub-human". Sadly, in this digital age, those with these mindsets are free to spread their beliefs. People have always craved power. and there is no more ultimate power than having control over others. Whether this is by religious beliefs, cultural beliefs or from the "cult of celebrity", unless people are educated on why this isn't right it will continue to exist.
Load More Replies...I’ve heard some people say that, with our current global population being larger than ever before, there might even be more people enslaved today than there ever has been before in history :( (I haven’t fact checked this so keep that in mind, but it’s a pretty grim thought)
Load More Replies...Slavery is thriving, women and girls are forced into p**********n and shipped around.
slaves in rice fields lived for about 7 years and were usually sterile by 2 years...never thought of that as easier slavery...eek!
It's refreshing to learn, that at least in this instance, the Western white man is not to blame.
The US government were forcibly sterilizing Native American women up until the 1970s. Meaning, the US government was (arguably still are) actively committing genocidal acts against Native peoples well into the 20th century.
The show “Dark Winds” touches on this subject. Very sad and shameful.
That's an excellent show. This was really an interesting thing to learn .
Load More Replies...Apparently Denmark was doing similar in Greenland. I'm obviously enraged at the One Who Must No Be Named laying claim to the island, but it's pretty rich of Denmark to act like they were nothing but sunshine.
Between the sterilizing and the Scoop.. Horrifying. :(
Load More Replies...such beautiful people & culture... to just destroy them, leaves me speechless.
The indigenous people in North America had MANY diverse cultural traits. Some groups were warmongers and took slaves from other groups. Coastal groups were generally more artistic and less warlike. They had more resources (easily available salmon and cedar for food and shelter) and so less to fight over. Slavery is global. It remains so to this day.
Load More Replies...Just why, though? Like what was the point? Or did they really just view them like animals needing to be neutered and spayed?
That's disgusting! I can't believe this is the first I have heard of it.
Because they were often ràped by men who worked there. Can't have your patients turning up pregnant..😡
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King Leopold II of Belgium 1902--responsible for millions of deaths in the Belgian Congo, and had little black boys hands cut off for not producing enough rubber.
How is it that a single person can maneuver themselves into such a position of power and influence, such that they can instigate such horrors without a massive uprising against them, until it's just too late? I live in the US, and I've been asking myself this question a lot lately.
He was a king. It said so. Do you need a lesson in how one becomes king? Hint: it's hereditary. Sheesh!
Load More Replies...King Leopold's Ghost is a great book if you want all the details, which are horrifying
I don't know that that will increase production when people couldn't work if they wanted to.
They thought of that - that's why they cut off the hands of the workers' children. This man is staring at the chopped off hand of his little daughter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsala_of_Wala_in_the_Nsongo_District
Load More Replies...Yes, this was possibly the most cruel and inhumane colonisation in Africa.
Rwandan genocide, it lasted 4 months. Four f*****g months and 1,000,000+ people died. Most died from being hacked to death by machetes.
Same logic needs to go to 'gun violence' - it's NOT the gun, it's the person holding it.
Load More Replies...Let us remember the story of Father Athanase Seromba, a Rwandan priest that opened his church in Nyange to fleeing Tutsi refugees. Then, he *closed* it... with the refugees inside. Then, he called the Rwandan warlords, and had the church bulldozed, killing about 2,000 Tutsi refugees.
It gets better. The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) came to know of the story, and their "Crime against Humanity" alert went in full blasting mode. So, they went to apprehend the good father, but could not find him. Seromba in the meantime had been evacuated on order by the Vatican (allegedly, from Pope John Paul II himself), and moved to Florence in secrecy. There, he changed his name to Anastasio Sumba Bura, and was granted a small parish. When he was discovered, the highest echelons of the Catholic Church fought toots and nails against the United Nation trial where he was scheduled to appear, even siding with the new Rwandan president Paul Kagame and succeeding in having the chief prosecutor removed. Nevertheless, Seromba was found guilty (he was found very, very, VERY guilty) and sentenced to life in jail in Benin.
Load More Replies...This is pretty wel-known in Australia. We had several hundred troops there as part of the peacekeeping effort, and there were journalists over there too. I was 14 when it happened and I can clearly remember seeing it on the news.
We have a lot of survivors in the UK. My friend being a descendant of one.
Load More Replies...I remember when this was happening. Surprisingly, the American media did not downplay it, and I watched the newscasts with horror. When my son was in the Air Force, he met a woman who was a child during the mássacre, and she was... not doing well.
"Hotel Rwanda" was one of the most disturbing movies I've ever watched. A very well done movie, but disturbing.
I admire the way BP censored my message that American is careening in this direction. BP needs to cover for the maga movement. All Hail BP/Maga culture.
Imperial Japan's Unit 731
Not in any school text books but as unsettling as anything throughout history.
For those who don't know: It was absolutely horrific "experiments" by the Japanese. Vivisection, dismemberment, r**e, injection of diseases, on men, women, AND children.
I assume conducted on Chinese and Korean people?
Load More Replies...If anyone is interested in what went on here and really wants to see it in motion picture, there are two utterly horrifying films about it. "Philosophy of a Knife" (2008), and "Men Behind the Sun" (1988). Tread with extreme caution.
Be sure to be ready when you find out what they did, they were even worse than Nazis.
Load More Replies...Japan still insists on hunting whales, they refuse to sign the anti whale hunting treaty.
My God, don't look it up. It will make you want to puke. People suck.
Lots of atrocities committed by Japanese armed forces in WW 2 are unknown to Japanese people now.
The Japanese are a singular racist nation. They literally believe that all non-Japanese are animals. We designed the post-war world. There's a reason nuclear weapons are allowed on German soil, but not on Japanese even though both are allies.
A lot of people refer to the Jonestown incident as a mass s*****e when it was really a mass murder and people were forced to drink the cyanide flavor-aid by armed guards, and also the whole community was more horrific than most people know about and many were stuck in Jonestown against their will.
Don't forget the precipitating event was shooting a Representative and 3 others dead in cold blood
A US congressman, yes - Leo Ryan. Poor dude honestly :(
Load More Replies...There is a monument in Oakland, CA memorializing the foster children that were taken to Jonestown. It was said that 3/4th of the Jonestown population were CA foster children.
Read " Wild Coast " for all the details. About French Guyana, British Guyana and Suriname
And this is how "drinking the kool aid" came about. And it was actually Flavor Aid. I'm that a**e hole that will always say "It was Flavor Aid!"
Kool aid has better press, but they probably don't appreciate the association.
Load More Replies...Because Christians are ok with murder, súicide is a sin to them.
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The Native American boarding school movement, popularized by the slogan "K**l the Indian, Save the Man", meant that thousands of Native children were rounded up, taken to boarding schools, had their hair and clothes changed, and were forced to speak only in English. Many people don't know that these kidnappings continued through the 1940s. My grandmother and her sisters were picked up on the school wagon in 1939 when they aeee playing outside, while their mom was gone. For weeks, she didn't know what happened to them or where they had gone. They had been taken to a boarding school. When one of my grandmother's sisters was caught speaking Cherokee at the boarding school, she was locked in the dark basement (where they stored a skeleton used for anatomy lessons) overnight. She's still terrified of the dark almost 80 years later.
Yes. That is big misstep! Up your game BP.
Load More Replies...Canada was and still is terrible to their native population. See Highway of Tears.
Load More Replies...The native boarding schools are a black mark on Canadian history!. I don't think reparations can ever be made.
Ash from the Dachau concentration camp "snowed" unto the people in Munich. This was during the summer, and no one batted an eye that there's really no reason for ash to be snowing down on them.
They later tried to claim they had no idea about what was going on at Dachau. Yeah, you did.
They were also afraid that if they said anything, *they'd* end up there, becoming ash. Fear is a powerful motivator.
Load More Replies...Not the first one to point out but Dachau was not designed to k**l people at an industrial level. It was one of the first concentration camps and many people died there, yes. But the crematorium there is small. No way the ashes would be blown to Munich, which is about 30km away. Source: I live in Munich, last visited Dachau concentration camp site 4 months ago. Note: not saying my grandparents and their generation didn't know about concentration camps and the h*******t, as they claimed. Just saying Dachau crematorium ashes might have been blown to the city of Dachau but not to Munich. Feel free to downvote anyway, of course.
BP, just asking: isn't it much 1984-like to censor h0l0caust?!? What about shoah, sh0ah then?
Load More Replies...The OP is conflating an event with the entirely wrong location. Which is sad, because this really did happen... just not at Dachau. Specifically, it happened in Krakow after the ghetto had been liquidated. The event is replicated in the movie Schindler's List, and it happened after the SS ordered the mass graves dug up and the remains burned on pyres. Dachau, for all it was, didn't see the same level of mass killings that the other concentration camps did. Between 1933 and 1945, about 200,000 people were killed there. That works out to around 16,000 a year. Compared with other camps, like Auschwitz which would average this number in three days, Dachau never had enough killings or cremations to produce the required 'snow' the OP talks about. Dachau's prisoners were, by and large, more of a political or criminal nature than Jewish. We don't have exact numbers after 1939, but at that time of the prisoners present, there were only 11,000 jews present at that camp.
I don think to be true, Dachau was a labour camp and not an extermination camp. Tha camp system of Dachau supplied labour for factories as far as Augsburg and Traunstein. There are many books on this topic. Also Munich is over 30 km’s dein Dachau and although the bodies of those who died were burned I doubt that any residue would travel tat far. And as to knowing…? Well it was known, but you did not talk about it if you did not want to end up on Dachau yourself.
That's because it's not. The OP took two events and associated them wrong. The actual incident the OP is referring to happened in Krakow after the mass graves from when the ghetto had been liquidated, were dug up so the bodies could be burned. Dachau, at its height was averaging around 16k executions a year, and was primarily a political camp as opposed to an extermination camp. Auschwitz would do the same 16k in less than a week.
Load More Replies...they knew and looked the other way, For they weren't Jews so why bother caring
And then we have Americans who had no problem with genocide of Native Americans
When I was around 8 we lived in Germany about 50 miles from Munich. We visited Dachau, it seemed wrong to me that the grounds were neat and almost pretty there were flower beds around each building and the pathways were well groomed. I was horrified by the ice tongs that they used to drag the people to the crematory. I think it was because of my family history and I'd been told more by my parents about the horrors that happened. My paternal grandfather had joined the Army Chaplin's Corps at the age of 49, the cut off was age 50. He felt that his 2 oldest sons were in the Army so he should be too. Because of his history of working as a Chaplin in the St. Louis jail and with the missions in St. Louis he was asked by the military to be the Lutheran prisoners at the Nuremberg War Trials. It really had an effect on him, he worked with the prisoners and held worship services with those who wanted it. At the end he walked with those to be executed to the gallows.
As an Irishman, maybe it's not totally unknown but I think the actual reality of what happened during the British occupation seems to be unknown to most people outside Ireland, even in Britain.
It was 800 years. Most shockingly, the "Famine" is just sort of known as some sort of act of God that plagued the entire country. The reality of what happened, that the "famine" only applied to certain members of society and how/why it happened just all seem to be swept under the rug. Calling it a Famine is quite disingenuous.
To this day people still make jokes about Irish people and their love for potatoes. Eh... there's a reason. There was nothing else "left" to us, and when that was gone, there was literally nothing else given to us(though, there was actually food to be had) It's not that we loved them, it was basically, that's all you have, eat it or die of starvation.
Not surprising that the Irish weren’t even considered “white” when they first came to America.
The Protestant Irish weren't discriminated against in the US as far as I can tell - the ones branded "Ulster Scots" and suchlike. The Roman Catholic Irish, on the other hand, did suffer. History is complicated, but as far as I can tell, that particular problem (discrimination against Irish Roman Catholics) basically goes back to the Pope saying that he'd excommunicate anyone accepting Queen Elizabeth of England as the legitimate monarch. Elizabeth didn't mind Catholics, but she had no time for treachery. It's all pretty nasty - starting with Elizabeth's pro-Rome half-sister, Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England. Umm. And Mary and Elizabeth's infamous dad, Henvy VIII. But maybe you could blame the Pope back then for refusing to grant Henry VIII a divorce, and then you could point to a previous historical thing... Oh yeah, don't forget, Henry VIII's dad, Harri Tudor, aka Henry VII of England? Welsh, he was - family came from Ynys Môn aka Anglesey (and one of the best kings England's had as it happens).
Load More Replies...It's so wierd to think about living on land owned by some lord who had somebody collect rent on your farm, the farm where you grew wheat and barley and oats or raised sheep. But you couldn't eat those things, the production was sold so you could pay rent. So you grew the easiest plant for your family to raise, because your family was all working too, and that was potatoes. They were introduced to Ireland from their origin in Peru, but only one type, so when a fungus spread, it wiped out all the potato plants because there was no variety to resist the blight, so Irish people 1)starved 2)got evicted for not working their land to pay rent And England couldn't help with food because that would make poor people dependent. So Irish people starved, and some Irish people got out in a diaspora that brought them to Canada, Australia, US, and some other nations. Enjoying potatoes all these years later is a sign of survival, very similar to Native people in the US enjoying fry bread
We also have fried bread in Eastern Europe. It's called "lángos" in Hungarian and it's a beloved street food nowadays. As for landownership... During communist times, you were legally obligated to have a mulberry tree in your garden and had to grow silk worms. If you didn't grow enough, you were fined. They also took stock of any and every fruit tree, calculated how much produce they could expect and you had to hand it all in. If you were living in the village, you were also obligated to grow pigs and cattle but not allowed to sacrifice them. People literally had to learn how to k**l an unborn calf because they are actually very expensive to raise. It absolutely horrifies me how many students I've met in the UK who were idolising Communism...
Load More Replies...One of my ancestors came to Australia after being orphaned in the famine. There is a memorial to all the famine orphans in Williamstown, Victoria.
My great grandmother and great grandfather on my mom's side came to America from Ireland.
Grandmother on my Dad’s side was from Ireland.
Load More Replies...The population of Ireland before the first famine - yes, there were 3 waves - around 1830 was over 8 millions. Not sure if there any other country that never reached the same population after massive genocide 150 years ago.
There's more people of Irish ancestry in the US than in Ireland.
Load More Replies...I used to work with an Irish Dr and he wouldn't touch a potato no matter how it was cooked. His wife told me he was in boarding school and they had potatoes so much that he hates them. I loved listening to both of them talk especially if 1 of the residents pissed him of. He would lay into them and talk off walking. You knew he was mad by the way he walked.
Well now, the so-called "British" occupation of Ireland 800-odd years back began with Dermot McMurrough - the recently deposed king of Leinster - doing a deal with the Cambro-Normans to get his kingdom back. I say so-called "British' because Ireland is part of the British Isles, making the Irish a lot more British than the Normans overlords from Wales whom they invited over back in the 12th century - after the Viking raids, invasions, and slave trading. From my reading of history, the occupation of Ireland from Great Britain didn't start to get nasty until the 16th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_de_Clare,_2nd_Earl_of_Pembroke#Background and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland
No, only the people in N Ireland consider themselves part of the British isles. They're part of the EU.
Load More Replies...If I remember right, the food they could raise was taken from them for the English and/or sold. Leaving them to starve.
The Stolen Generation.
In Australia from 1910 - 1970, Aboriginal and mixed race children were taken from their families and abducted off the street by police. They were then sent to schools and church missions to be converted to Christianity and trained for service in white society. Girls were trained as domestic servants and boys were trained to work on farms as labourers.
I almost don't need to tell you about the physical and sexual abuse. The separation from their families. The suffering, the destruction of language and culture. Many never saw their parents or siblings again. When they were finally released from these schools, they were sent to work in white households that treated them like slaves. Physical and sexual abuse were again the order of the day. If the mixed race domestic servant produced a child by her white master? Well, that baby was taken away as well.
British colonialism at it's finest. The Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd apologised for this and many other atrocities on the 13th of February 2008.
I was talking to my mother about it not long ago. She is in her 60's and grew up poor in public housing. Her thoughts? "Well, I am sure they thought they were doing the right thing at the time." .... hell no.
I'm a white Australian and soooo ashamed of how our country's First Nation people have been (and still ARE) treated 😔 Highly recommend a movie called 'Rabbit Proof Fence', always brings me to tears
Just one of the many reasons I abhor "religion". The word Christian literally means "Christ like". Pretty f*cking sure Christ wouldn't have acted that way.
Most conservatives don't follow the teachings of Christ.
Load More Replies...It is the same way the Native Americans were treated. Why do white people think that anyone who isn't white needs to be "fixed"?
They don't, they white people think they need to be controlled.
Load More Replies...All these atrocities and I have never heard of any of them. History has really been whitewashed to make it more palatable. It's quite disgusting!
not only that, these upper class a-holes did not stop with just being racist, they were classist too. Poor people of any colour were fair game, unwed mothers and abandoned mothers, they would just take the kids away to give to childless middle class families. This went on all through the 20th century, in the USA, UK, Australia. WWII really gave them a boost, they grabbed all the kids and shipped them overseas without caring if the parents were dead or alive.
Christerdom crusades to scandinavia/northern europe. (cultural apocalypse)
Esentially at least in finland, almost all information from our older history and gods was destroyed.
we used to have a lot of gods, now theyre literally just in a book thats a collection of folk stories because crusaders literally k****d all who knew anything about old gods.
i think it was more like 20% of whole population k****d because they didnt convert.
Christian love. Hide the true history of every nation, k**l everyone you don't like, destroy education, enable slavery, and genocide. Was true back then, is still VERY true nowadays.
I've never heard of this, and when it comes to history I think of myself as pretty well-read. I am going to research this now.
Props to you for seeing something you haven’t heard of and deciding to do research 😊 that’s rare these days
Load More Replies...Similar was done in Hungary. The literal Pope had to step in, the good Christians were killing so many. Now we are venerating Stephen I. who invited the Germans to "spread the light" as a saint. Most of the original culture has been wiped out or got hidden away in folk tales and "superstitions".
The Germanic tribes were the last to be 'Christianized' because they were hard to convince that 'murder just because you were stronger' was wrong.
Misspelling in the title ...The terms Christendom or Christian world commonly refer to the global Christian community, Christian states, Christian-majority countries or countries in which Christianity is dominant or prevails.
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Engineers advised NASA to postpone the launch of the space shuttle challenger, due to concerns about the O-rings in the solid rocket boosters at low tempatures. They were over ruled, largely because the next launch window wasn't on a school day, and having students watch the first teacher launch to space was big PR goal.
As everyone knows, that launch failed because an O-ring in one of the SRBs failed.
Stories from the engineers are heartbreaking. "If only I'd spoken up louder...more...said the right thing..." Not their fault but the guilt they carry is crushing.
Later Bill Clinton hired Richard Feynman to tell Congress exactly that.
And when Feynman realised that explaining the technical issues wasn't working he brought in a large jug of ice water, put it on the table and dropped in a piece of the rubber after first demonstrating that it was perfectly flexible at room temperature. After talking for a couple of minutes he lifted out the rubber, squeezed it, and it shattered in his hand. That was the moment that the Senate committee understood how the ring failed during the launch at sub-zero temperature.
Load More Replies...I remember watching the launch on television. It was so horrible. And for me the worst part was all the school children there to watch their teacher go into space. I couldn't stop crying and still tear up to this day thinking about it
That thousands of British children were sent to Canada, Rhodesia, Australia and New Zealand as part of the Child Migrants Scheme. The Child Migrants Trust was set up in 1987 to help families reunite. https://www.childmigrantstrust.com
In the 1940s - 1970s, most of these children still had parents and had been placed in British orphanages due to the crippling poverty after WW2 or were removed from parents who were deemed unable to cope (single/unwed mothers being a favourite excuse for removal). The children who were sent to these countries were often lied to: "Your parents are dead" "Your parents don't love you" "Your parents signed the release papers"... when actually, parents often didn't know what happened to their children and release papers were forged.
Learning disabled, mentally ill, physically disabled and ethnic minority children were not included, as many places like Australia wanted 'good white breeding stock'.
The abuse these children suffered when they arrived in these 'promised lands' was horrendous. The Catholic Church, Church of England, Barnardo's, Fairbridge Society and many other children's charities and Christian denominations were complicit in sending children abroad. The children were promised new lives and foster families. What they got was violence, abuse and years of hard labour at the hands of those supposedly meant to care for them.
Meanwhile, in Canada, they set up residential schools to try to turn First-nations people into obedient little white-acting Christians. My grandmother was one. The s**t the Catholics did to her broke her forever. She lived a life of utter misery with severe PTSD and passed that inheritance right on down.
In New Zealand. The boys mostly wound up as free labour on farms. I shudder to think what happened to the girls. Especially by the time the churches had finished their 'good works'.
There is a series out at the moment called Ten Pound Poms, set in Australia, and one of the characters went to Australia specifically to track down her son who was taken through this scheme.
People outside of Canada know little to nothing of our residential school system. I've heard survivors' stories and their treatment was horrifying.
The canadian government, the churches, and the RCMP (police) worked together to forcibly educate indigenous children. The RCMP would go to reserves and take kids away from their parents by force. Parents who resisted could be arrested or k****d by officers. The kids were then taken hours away to a school run by the church. By the time they got there, they would be beaten if they spoken their language or complained about the food/the conditions/their treatment, etc. Half of the day would be dedicated to scholarly education, the other half would be tedious chores (to help "westernize" the kids). The residential schools across the country went unchecked by the government. They helped fund them but really didn't pay any mind to the reports of horrific treatment from the kids. Rapes, murders, and suicides were very frequent (to listen to survivor stories I suggest We Were Children). Kids would be locked in small dark rooms for weeks if they asked to go home or misbehaved. Others would be hunted and shot like deer if they ran away. Thousands of kids died while the government did nothing. Over 2 generations of indigenous people were forcible stripped of their culture, their language, ect.
'People outside of Canada know little to nothing of our residential school system.' Rather sweeping generalisation. A lot of us have our eyes open to what has happened in other countries.
My paternal grandmother was one. They beat the f**k out of those kids day in and day out. The only literature was the bible and hymns. Forced prayer for hours a day. The dozen priests and nuns ate their fill and used the bones and scraps to make soup for a hundred kids. In your bed from sunset till sunrise, and if you were caught out you got beat. Older boys that put up a fight were chained up outside in sheds and left to the elements, some died every year. Pregnant girls were beaten and put to work at backbreaking labour till they had miscarriages. She came out of there massively traumatized. They utterly destroyed her and then because they beat the religion into her, she kept having kids and she in turn beat the f**k out of them and treated them like she was treated. The residential school system is responsible for a massive amount of present day trauma and associated problems like homelessness and substance abuse. This is all s**t I heard from her first hand. My. F*****g. Grandmother. This is the love of the Catholic Church
There is a tv series called Little Bird based on true stories of first nations children taken to residential schools.
As a white person, I can't even begin to understand what happened with forced re-education. I was slapped hard from "Anne with an E" and "Reservation Dogs." "The Sapphires" touches on the white passing aboriginal children taken and re-educated.
This was a horrible time in our history. It is an embarrassment to this day! It's too bad we can turn back history and do things better.
Two generations? More like nine. Often from the same family. Imagine going through that and then knowing that you had to send your own children there. Nine generations of people with PTSD and no access to treatment.
I was surprised to learn how many people didn't know about the roundup of Japanese American citizens after Pearl Harbor. I learned about it in school and thought everyone else did too.
One of them was a child named Noriyuki Morita who later became an actor using the name "Pat" Morita.
I also learned this from Uncle George. On a Star Trek Cruise. He is one of the beautiful people. So kind.
Load More Replies...I actually learnt about this from the tv show "cold case" I saw that episode then spent the rest of the day reading about it.
Yes, I saw that episode.. that show was amazing at bringing the past to life..
Load More Replies...Unconstitutional, because Congress has not declared war.
Load More Replies...only on the west coast. The US was given different sector command, only the commander of the West Coast region rounded his up, the others only sent ones with documented connections to the Japanese military or public sympathies to Japan over the US. In Hawaii the same number of Japanese-Americans were sent as German and Italian Americans. In Iowa the small Japanese community only had 3 people arrested, and same in other places. There was a blanket executive order, but only 1 regional commander carried it out to the letter
The most ironic part was that a state that didn't round up the Japanese was Hawaii.
Hawaii wasn't a state until 1959. Internment was between 1942 and 1946
Load More Replies...A few other things about this also happened. Banks "repossessed" property owned by Japanese Americans and sold it, even if the property did not have a lein. Some good folks bought the property from the banks and gave it back to the internees when they were released. Also, thousands of German and Italians, both US citizens and recent immigrants were rounded up and also sent to internment camps.
A very shameful time in US History - Done by a DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT!! Don't forget that!!!!
The Great Siege Of Malta:
“Mustafa had the bodies of the knights decapitated and their bodies floated across the bay on mock crucifixes. In response, de Valette beheaded all his Turkish prisoners, loaded their heads into his cannons and fired them into the Turkish camp.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Siege_of_Malta.
Were there *ever* less complicated times? I'm starting to wonder.
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Rosemary Kennedy's failed lobotomy, which made her mental capacity diminish to that of a 2 year old, and left her without the ability to walk or speak coherently.
It was unnecessary, per my reading of various biographies of the family, more for control and mitigation of gossip
She was “wild” and had “behavioral issues” according to her father - aka she didn’t say “yes sir, thank you sir, whatever you say sir, I’ll be seen and not heard, sir…”
Load More Replies...Her father had it done without her mother's consent. Rose never forgave Joe Kennedy for that.
From what I understand, Joe was a real piece of work.
Load More Replies...that is not a "failed" lobotomy...that's what lobotomies do...they were not a precision operation...an ice pick was inserted through the corner of the eye near the tear duct and randomly twirled about...the inventor use to do exhibits where he timed how many he could do in x minutes, how he could do 2 at once...many doctors hought it was horrible but that someone else would speak up...watch this doc, more horrifying than you imagine https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/lobotomist/
And, no one from the immediate family ever visited her. She was persona non grata
She was pretty, I don't remember seeing any pics of her but I knew about the surgery.
Okay Im not sure how many people know this but the people I have told don't know it.
Edison electrucuted an elephant named Topsy *(she was being sentenced to death for trampling some people to death)* but Edison electrucuted her to prove his form of electricity was safer than Tesla's.
It is so f****d up that he electrucuted a poor animal to prove a point.
Topsy hit someone who gave her a lit cigarette which resulted in his death!
I fed an elephant banana and pumpkin once, she didn’t like the pumpkin so she kept comically and dramatically tossing it on the ground and giving me a big grin and flapping her ears, having fun with it. They’re so sweet 🥰 and I bet their Full Self Driving technology is much smarter hahaha, I’d rather ride an elephant to work than a Tesla
Load More Replies...That's a misconception, although the truth is possibly worse. Harold Pitney Brown on behalf of Edison did a lot of demonstrations involving killing animals with AC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_currents#Anti-AC_backlash Edison's film studio filmed Topsy's death - which was caused by poisoning, strangulation, and electrocution; but that took place long after the "war of the currents". Edison personally had nothing to do with it as far as I can tell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topsy_(elephant)#Association_with_Thomas_Edison
Most people don't know that the Spanish Flu of 1918 infected around 1/3 of the entire population of the planet, with 20-50 million deaths. By comparison, the death toll for the First World War was ~18 million. I find the thought that something as random and uncontrollable as a virus mutation can cause a real Malthusian check on the global population absolutely terrifying.
The Spanish Flu was very similar to Covid in many aspects. They both are RNA viruses, both originating in China, with high mutation rate and immunity escape mechanism, both targeting the respiratory system through its glycoproteins, both evolved into a less deadly form and became endemic in the human population, both with a 2-3% mortality rate. Covid was controlled (more or less depending on the countries) and managed, while the Spanish Flu could run rampant for over a year. The Spanish Flu has a 20-100M deaths estimate, while Covid has a 18-40M estimate (7M confirmed)
…didn’t the Spanish flu start in America?
Load More Replies...That was thought to be a bird flu, which is why medical professionals are so worried any time a bird flu develops that might cross over into the human population. The 1918 flu disproportionately killed young, healthy adults, possibly because it knocked their autoimmune systems into overdrive. Scary stuff.
The soldiers returning home from the trenches probably had great immunity (the others had dіed), so like in Covid their immune systems worked up a cytokine storm that kіlled them.
Load More Replies...When they started comparing Corona to Spanish flu I looked it up and told people it's gonna last for at least 2 years if not longer and they didn't believe me but my PCP agreed with me.
It's still kílling people, it was the 10th leading cause of déath in 2023.
Load More Replies...And then there are those who didn't think we should be taking the precautions we did to mitigate it. Small minded people!
Spanish flu is a misnomer. It started in the USA, as a result of the infection coming home with returned servicemen at the end of WW 1.
I do not believe in conspiracy theories. I believe the Earth is round and we landed on the moon. I have a high IQ, a u-grad from Stanford, a law degree and a Master's in Social Work. I believe with the certainty that I know my name that COVID was a beta test of a Chinese biological weapon.
But I don't think it was released on purpose. Researchers were selling animals after testing for food.
Load More Replies...Typhus epidemic (killed millions) also going on during that time. My grandpa survived it in boot camp (was discharged) and lived to 93
The Holodomor was an engineered famine in the Soviet Union. It took place from 1932 to 1933 and k****d 2.5 to 5 million people. To this day, many communists continue to deny that it occurred, deny that anyone could have foreseen that collectivization of agriculture could possibly result in a famine, or simply declare that the "kulaks deserved it".
Soviet Union? Sure, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. The Holodomor was the Ukrainian part of Stalin's famine that killed 3 to 5 million Ukrainians out of a population of about 30 million.
This was so Russia could k**l off the Ukrainians and take over the land for agricultural production and resource extraction. Putin needs to be shot
Your two sentences don't really connect. Unless you're suggesting that Putin had something to do with Soviet policy in the 1930s.
Load More Replies...Good God! I don't think I want to know any more about these atrocities!
Not near as obscure as what everyone else has said but I would argue the Halifax explosion. For how devastating it was it is never talked about (at least where I have lived). Largest man-made explosion before atomic weapons I believe.
Growing up in Canada we all saw this in Heritage Minutes during commercial breaks during Saturday morning cartoons. Those things were informative af
A quick background on some of these would be helpful, even a location and date so anyone who wants to can google further.
On the morning of 6 December 1917, the French cargo ship SS Mont-Blanc collided with the Norwegian vessel SS Imo in the harbour of Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. Mont-Blanc, laden with high explosives, caught fire and exploded, devastating the Richmond district of Halifax. At least 1,782 people were killed, largely in Halifax and Dartmouth, by the blast, debris, fires, or collapsed buildings, and an estimated 9,000 others were injured. The blast was the largest human-made explosion at the time.[1] It released the equivalent energy of roughly 2.9 kilotons of TNT (12 TJ). [from Wikipedia]
Load More Replies...If you tour downtown Halifax there are still buildings standing with bits of the Ino and Mont Calm embedded in them. The Curse of the Narrows is a great book about the explosion
First thing I recall is the Telegraph Operator who stayed at his post trying to get the word out before him and all around him was gone
yep...i think it was even larger than the more recent fertilizer exposion in lebanon
there was a school near the harbor. The explosion shattered the windows of the school. Along with other injuries, hundreds of children were blinded.
The Aztecs performed acts of massive human sacrifice of slaves.
In one such event over 10,000 slaves had their hearts torn out while still alive. The blood permanently stained the pirámide.
By the time that the Spaniard Cortez arrived thousands of natives from conquered tribes joined him to be rid of the Aztec empire.
Over 90 percent of the army against the Aztecs was native tribesmen of former s***e nations of the Aztec Empire.
The people who were sacrificed were NOT slaves, but prisoners of war. The Mexica (real name, not Aztecs) organised and started wars known as "guerras floridas" for the sole purpose of capturing POWs and sacrifice them as a strategy to show how powerful they were, as a deterrent, and as a strategy to keep their own population tightly united as death was precisely the binding element for their society. And yes, as someone already pointed out, the image shows a Maya pyramid, no "aztec" ones survive to this day in such a good state. Also, it's Cortés, not Cortez.
What is s***e? I’m so sick of this censorship. We are grown @ss adults!
Seriously! The censorship is getting ridiculous at this point! I think it’s supposed to be - s l a v e
Load More Replies...They got the last laugh. Syphilis originated in South America. They gave it to the Spanish and the Spanish gave it to everybody.
Euros gave the Native Americans guns, whiskey, and smallpox. The natives sent back tobacco, c*****e, and syphilis.
Load More Replies...If you've ever seen or read about what the cartels do, there's no denying that bloodthirst lives on in them.
White people are just as bloódthirsty. Just ask a Native American, or anyone who's gone against the Mob.
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The Mountain Meadows M******e in Utah. Brigham Young authorized the murder of over 100 men, women, and children. Only 17 children survived, the oldest of which was 7.
Thank you. I briefly tried work it out and came up with Mennonite
Load More Replies...And they let one man hang for it. It took Juanita Brooks a long time to give him Mr. Lee justice.
i know one of his descendants...looks just like him....it is uncanny.....
Between 1959 to 1961, 15 million to 45 million people died in China from famine.
He was really good at kil.ling people, though.
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During Stalin's forced industrialization of Russia, he would take all the farmers' food/crops they grew leaving them to starve. This led to extensive cannibalism, including many recorded cases of parents eating their children.
Has anyone else noticed? For some reason BP hasn't censored cannibalism. Is this a new beginning?
It's an easy google: Cannibalism Russian Famine. Try it out.
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Vikings would use pigments to make their teeth permanently one color by using a hammer and a sharp pick to make identations for the dye in the enamel. This could be how the Danish king Harald Bluetooth got his name.
Just imagine.. *shivers*.
Fun fact, the bluetooth symbol comes from ᚼᛒ which were Harald's initials.
Actually, it is commonly believed that the name origins from "Blottan" - mening "The Booldy"
Vikings definitely filed horizontal grooves on their teeth. Whether they died them or not is disputed.
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Quite a bit from Hawaiian history. I love learning about it, but thinking about enough people dying to turn a river red, it still terrifying.
In Belgium there was a battle in 1453 which turned the river red of blood for over 20 km.
From the original Reddit post, it’s not really clear if OP is referring to the Battle of Kepaniwai, or the Americans taking over Hawaii. (“The Battle of Kepaniwai was fought in 1790 between the islands of Hawaiʻi and Maui.“)
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In 1916, a town in Tennessee hung a fully grown elephant for k*****g her trainer. They had to use a crane at a nearby railroad station.
As a tween I lived at the library and went through all the animal books. The history of elephants in circuses (among other animals) is just about as sad and depressing as it gets.
Load More Replies...Truly horrible! I remember reading about this somewhere and the article was accompanied by a photograph of the hanging. I wish I'd never seen that.
There’s a town on the North Yorkshire (UK) coast called Hartlepool. I think it was during the Napoleonic Wars, a French ship got into trouble and was caught on hidden rocks near the town. Pretty much everyone died with the exception of the ship’s mascot, a monkey. There were people on the beach watching the ship founder when the monkey had managed to reach the shore. Immediately it was captured. Somehow, someone said it was a French spy, and it had a full trial, where no one could understand it, obviously, and as no one spoke French, they assumed it was speaking French. It also should be pointed out that no one in the town had ever seen a monkey in real life either. The monkey was found guilty and it was sentenced to death by hanging. Which they did. Now, the local football team, Hartlepool United have a monkey as their team mascot. Such an illustrious way to be remembered.
That was the stupidest thing I've ever read, and I read almost a whole chapter of twilight. Thank you for sharing that, I can't believe people were that stupid.. lol
Load More Replies...Wkikpedia: "The elephant was hanged by the neck from a railcar-mounted industrial derrick between four o'clock and five o'clock that afternoon. The first attempt resulted in a snapped chain, causing Mary to fall and break her hip as dozens of children fled in terror. The severely wounded elephant died during a second attempt and was buried beside the tracks. A veterinarian examined Mary after the hanging and determined that she had a severely infected tooth in the precise spot where Red Eldridge had prodded her."
When exploring the history of different countries, we often uncover elements that are rarely discussed, revealing a hidden narrative of unsavory truths and uncomfortable realities. These events and facts can be shocking, especially when they highlight societal flaws and dark pasts.
Readers curious about such unspoken aspects of world history may want to explore how this theme extends across various countries, each with its own secrets, by looking at similar discussions on hidden historical secrets from around the world.
The Battle of Ramree Island during WWII of course.
A battle off the coast of Burma in the swamp like mangroves.
Japanese soldiers were traveling in waist deep water navigating through the mangroves while at night. There are reports of British soldiers hearing the soldiers being picked off and ripped apart by the abundant fresh water crocodiles during the night as the Japanese unknowingly all walked to their deaths. It is one of the highest rates of crocodile related fatalities in history.
I can't imagine just being on a ship at night and just listening to people screaming as they're being ripped apart by a living dinosaur.
There is a reason these creatures have been around for hundreds and millions of years as they are the perfect hunters, and live in areas where all life must eventually return. The water.
The Franklin Expedition in 1845 to find the northern passage, which would be a faster route when traveling and freighting cargo across the northern hemisphere to Asia and China.
The ships got caught in the ice and therefore stuck there forever. The crew turned to cannibalism as a way to survive in the cold and stayed on the lower decks of the ships, where they'd eventually get very sick because of malnurishment.
One of the ships were named "Terror" ironically, there's a book about it which of course puts in some supernatural elements to the story.
I however think the real story is creepy in its own right. Imagine being stuck in the ice, it's cold as f**k everywhere, there's no food left and the nights are very dark.
AMC is making it a series aswell, named after the ship; The Terror. It's directed by Ridley Scott, so it's bound to be unnerving.
Trailer: https://youtu.be/rnN7Aad3c7A.
The AMC series was REALLY good. And I’m pretty picky about the shows I watch. I highly recommend it if you’re into historical shows or period pieces. It’s so spooky, I really enjoyed it. I almost never rewatch shows but when I finished the season I had to research it again with my bf. I think it’s on Prime? (Season 2 is weirdly a completely different story that has nothing to do with the ship, but season 1 is fantastic.)
There are several books (fiction, non-fiction) , incl. TV adaptations about this. See authors Dan Simmons, Michael Palin, Owen Beattie, Paul Watson, Richard Flanagan (Wanting), Sten Nadolny.
"The terror" was such a freaking good book! It made me do some research on the two ships and I learnt a lot
Ridley scott is a hack anymore. There are legit docs and better research than the junk amc will churn out
The series was published in 2018 (BP is scraping the barrel with old content). Scott was the producer. The series got overwhelmingly positive critique and excellent public reception, winning the Best Television prize (plus multiple nominations) at the 2019 Satellite Awards.
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An attempt to spread a pseudo-Christian kingdom in China (Taiping rebellion) in the 19th century led to more deaths than WW1.
Great swathes of what the British Empire did are both horrific and virtually unknown outside of the countries we did them in.
Surprised I haven't seen these two yet but:
*China's "Great Leap Forward" in which millions were forcibly put into communal housing units in an effort to collectivize and industrialize China. At the same time, Mao convinced everyone to make s****y-a*s backyard furnaces to melt metal and turn it into some magic metal or some s**t. Newflash: It didnt work. Everyone just melted their tools, wasted the metal, and now you've got a s**t-ton of food sitting in fields not being harvested.
Ensue mass famine and disease from rotting food. Whole buildings full of harvested food would sit there while people starved outside. Millions of people died. But don't worry, that's not REAL communism.
*China's "Cultural Revolution" where they mass-slaughterd wrong-thinkers who criticized communism or Mao, or who thought capitalism was pretty good. Also they tore down like all of their traditional chinese buildings and cultural items, so now most of it is rebuilt fakes. Millions died. But still not real communism^TM
BONUS: Chinese Hundred Flowers Campaign where China encouraged intellectuals to express opinions on how the commies were running the country, only to then mass-slaughter those same people immediately after they spoke up.
Good thing it wasn't Real Communism^TM.
What didn't help the famine at all was Mao's grand plan to k**l all the sparrows. He thought that the birds ate too much of the growing grain, and that killing them would ensure more grain was left to harvest. That left the sparrows normal diet of insects to have a population boom and eat most of the grain
Shows the dangers of authoritarianism. We might get to see more of if first hand in the US soon
Load More Replies...People confuse economic systems with political systems. We all use socialism daily (how’s that social security gramps? Need the fire dept? How’s that potable tap water?) and no one fccking needs totalitarian pisspots in charge.
People can make idiot decision under any economic/political system.
the OP's sarcasm aside, it wasn't Real Communism (TM) . Because Real Communism (TM) is a theoretical endstate that no nation has ever achieved. As a different commentator mentioned one should not confuse economic systems with political systems.
What people always forget is that, until this, there were famines every 20 years or so, at least since the 16th century. In the 19th century alone, between 65 and 80 million people died in China from famine. In 20th century, BEFORE the Communist revolution, 32 to 40 million people died from famine. In the 100 years before Communism, some 70 million people died from famine. In the 80 years since the Communist takeover, 20-55 million died of famine. Something to remember.
The Harrying of the North by William the Conqueror in England. The North rebelled, so he enacted a Scorched earth policy. His army burnt everything they came across. It was so bad even chroniclers at the time thought it was bad. 60% of the land was destroyed, and everywhere in the north was affected. They wiped out villages, killing an estimated 150,000 people. This is in early mediaeval England, where most of the population was rural. 85% of Oxen were killed, and only 25% of the population remained to plough the fields.
People assume England has only ever had one civil war (Named the English civil war) but this isn't true whatsoever. England has had atleast three, and that's ignoring the fact that it wasn't uncommon for Lords to fight among themselves.
Not as huge in scale as some of the answers, but the *Dona Paz* disaster. More than twice as many people were killed in this tragedy than on the *Titanic*, but people are much more likely to know the story of the *Titanic* than the *Dona Paz*.
The MV *Dona Paz* was an interisland ferry in the Philippines. A few days before Christmas 1987, it was hit by an oil tanker, which exploded on impact, causing a fire that consumed the *Dona Paz*. To make matters worse, the crew had been allowing passengers to buy tickets off the books, pushing the ship to over 200% capacity, the crew either didn't have safety training or failed to follow through, and no one sent out a distress signal. Only 26 people survived, two from the tanker and 24 from the ferry, all of whom were seriously injured by the time they were rescued 16 hours later. And compounding the tragedy even further, the shipping company refused to recognize the presence of the "unofficial" passengers; it took 30 years for those victims' families to receive anything for their losses.
If you are ever in doubt as to why government regulations need to exist, just have a brief read on SS Eastland, MV Sewol, MS Estonia, or MS Herald of Free Enterprise. Remember that capitalists will always make the most profitable decision, never the safest.
I was reading "Dona Paz" as maybe a lazy way of spelling "Donner Pass" which was also a horrible tragedy on a much smaller scale but NOPE, this is totally different and much worse.
Most people have never heard of Sandakan, or the Sandakan-Ranau forced marches.
As tl;dr as I can: After the fall of Singapore, the Japanese split the prisoners between Changi (which every Aussie seems to know of) and Sandakan in Borneo. The camp at Sandakan had the highest death rate of all the POW camps in WW2 at 99.6%. Some 2,400 Australian and British soldiers were held there. 6 survived.
If you want the full story, Paul Ham wrote a book on it which was highly controversial. It was hard to read because of the horrific details, but worth it.
We know very well of Changi and Sandakan, and the Burma-Thai railway. Lee Kernaghan (fantastic Aussie country rock singer) has a song called The Changi Banjo. Look it up.
There was also a tv series called Changi, with Matthew Newton in it.
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The vast majority of France's 80,000 inmates at the infamous Devil's Island prison camps, never made it back to France--Many inmates, even after serving their sentence, were forced to stay in French Guyana to pay for their prison stay.
The Guillotine was actually a merciful invention to spare the prisoner the pain and horror of beheading by axe. It often took several strokes of the axe to separate the head from the body. Mary, Queen of Scots, had a grisly death by the axe. The Wikipedia article paraphrases it like this:
>The first blow missed her neck and struck the back of her head. The
>second blow severed the neck, except for a small bit of sinew, which
>the executioner cut through using the axe.
There was a tradition at the time, especially amongst the wealthy. that you paid the executioner to ensure their axe was sharp and that they would behead the condemned with a single blow.
Well, if you're about to be dead, you don't need the money anymore, so why not make sure the executioner has no reason to give you poor service?
Load More Replies...Thomas Cromwell's executioner was drunk. Cromwell's death on the pillory was excruciating.
I’ve posted this before but it is still just amazing
Francisco Nguema inviting political opponents to a large stadium either on christmas or christmas eve, then played "those were the days" over a PA and people dressed as santa shot the spectators in the crowd with machine guns.
From Wikipedia: “Francisco Macías Nguema, often referred to as Macías Nguema or simply Macías, was an Equatoguinean politician who served as the first president of Equatorial Guinea from the country's gaining of independence in 1968, until his overthrow in 1979. He is widely remembered as one of the most brutal dictators in history. As president, he exhibited bizarre and erratic behavior, to the point that many of his contemporaries believed he was insane.”
While we're looking stuff up, the Wikipedia article makes it clear that the Santa Claus part of the story is almost certainly fake.
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That the United States has somehow lost 11 nuclear bombs and Russia has lost 40.
Or Project SUNSHINE where the US wanted to test radiation on the human body. This involved body snatching of small children from other countries without parents permission.
Just to clarify - "body snatching" because the small children were already dead when their bodies were taken. They weren't experimenting on live children
Wouldn't surprise me if they were. The US has carried out unbelievable atrocities.
Load More Replies...Dropped off planes accidentally during flight etc etc - for a while having nuclear armed bombers in flight 24/7 was part of the USA’s policy. Google “nuclear empty quiver” and you’ll read nightmare fuel.
Load More Replies...There was a fire tornado 300 feet tall that incinerated around 40,000 people in approx. 15 minutes in Japan shortly following the 1923 great Kanto earthquake.
Bengal Famine of 1943. Estimated 2.1 million people starved to death, and people resorting to cannibalism and eating grass.
Due to the poor harvest turn-out, paired with the invasion of Burma by Japanese (used to be a good buffer zone for the Brits), and the unsteady political environment on a global scale, the province that provided and produced majority of India's rice was devastated.
Now, being under the East India Company (aka the British rule), Churchill had the responsibility to amend the situation. However, he did not send any aid nor medical supplies to the area, but more so withheld such aid altogether.
He had remarked:
"I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits."
Being of Bengali origin, the famine has not personally affected my life, but it did shock me when I first discovered about it. My father never saw his grandparents nor aunts or uncles, they all died in the famine, so I guess you can still see the repercussions till to this day.
I remember when I used to take history classes in school, that people would praise the living s**t out of Churchill. Now studying in UK, people get really grumpy when I point out that Churchill was a total a*****e, and they try to pick fights with me. It should be also mentioned then that Gandhi was N**i sympathiser and hated Jews. In general, we all tend to look at these political figures as somehow having a high moral compass, and deserving worship. They are only idolised so, because history is biased and written from the winner's perspective.
(I am not a historian by profession, but I tried. For more info, please just search Bengal famine for more.).
The alleged quote from Churchill used is not accepted by most historians and is from a dubious source. And while the starvation was horrible, Churchill diverted a lot of ships with grain to alleviate the famine from the British military in the Middle East and North Africa, however German raiders sunk some of the ships, and then when the food arrived, militias loyal to Subhas Chandra Bose (who was hiding in Italy during the war and leader of Indian's Fascis-t movement) destroyed some of the warehouses. Then when they tried to ship it, Bose's militia's blew up the rail tracks, so the supplies had to be moved by animal and hand. At the time India had local rule, that local areas government were Indians elected by Indians (the upper level in India was British rule, but lower level was Indian rule), that some local officials stole the food and sold it on the black market. By the end only 30% of the supplies reached the people. Churchill got blamed because he was an easy target
Don't know why Darkest Timeline was downvoted, the comments about Ghandi are NOT true.
Gandhi made many anti-semitic comments, but he did not sympathize with the Na-zi's
Load More Replies...Internment camps for Japanese (or other Asian descent) families in the U.S. during WWII. Tends to get glossed over in history classes in schools pretty frequently. Most of why I even remember anything about the subject is that my 3rd grade teacher was a survivor of the camps when she was a little girl.
I worked for a superior court judge in Victorville, California, whose family was interred in a camp and lost all their business holdings! RIP Judge Eric M. Nakata!
I grew up outside Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada where one of the Canadian-Japanese interment camps was located. Even though we have history plaques set up all around the city, a Japanese gardens, cherry blossom lined streets, etc, a lot of (white) people have no idea the camp existed. They do not teach it in the schools there
I’m in BC and we had a Japanese internment camp and a Ukrainian internment camp on Vancouver island. I didn’t learn about it until I was almost 30.
Load More Replies...This really pales into insignificance, compared to the atrocities comitted by the Japanese at the time. Were the interred Japanese subjected to starvation, mass r**e, t*****e, beheading, unimaginably cruel human experimentation??
Maybe you weren’t paying attention? Can you cite other Asian ethnicities in the camps? I am no apologist, but China’s participation as an ally helped mitigate the Exclusion Act, this finally, after basically building this country, granted Chinese immigrants citizenship……I am arguing with AI garbage content. Bored Panda doesn’t even tey to improve
The US government has performed multiple secret experiments on the public without the public’s knowledge or consent.
“Operation Sea-Spray was a 1950 U.S. Navy secret biological warfare experiment in which Serratia marcescens and Bacillus globigii bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay Area in California, in order to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to a bioweapon attack. There has been speculation that the experiment may have contributed to one death and at least 10 illnesses, but no link has ever been demonstrated.”
During the troubles in Northern Ireland a pro british terrorist group had planned to shoot up catholic primary school. They called it off at the last minute due to fearing what the IRA would do in retaliation. The group also has their suspicions that the man who had thought of the idea of attacking the school was a double agent working for the British intelligence.
I read a lot. Some of these I didn't know about but am keen to learn about. BP this was great. More like this and less of the celebrity TMZ style S H I T
This is not quite what happened, it needs a bit more information. After the Kingsmill M******e of 1976, when the IRA executed 10 protestant workmen, a member of British Intelligence, who was at the time embedded within the UVF, tried to persuade the UVF command to attack a school in Belleeks, Armagh, in retaliation. The reason for the suggestion was to cause carnage, counter-retaliation by the IRA, and potentially bring about a full-on civil war, thus giving the British military a direct cassus belli to get fully involved and wipe out the IRA and INLA using the full force of the army. The UVF refused to carry out this particular attack, as they quite understood the consequences.
The Bath School disaster in Michigan. In 1927, man by the name of Andrew Kehoe lost a seat for a treasury position. In retaliation, he blew up a school and killed quite a few children and some staff. He was an electrical engineer, and suffered a head trauma that may have caused his insanity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster.
Just yesterday the University of Glasgow published a study done on prisoners, which determined that 86% of imprisoned adult males had suffered serious head injuries prior to their criminal convictions.
In 1964, a crazed German used a flamethrower on kids in a school.
The lifeboats in Titanic were launched only half full in most cases.
At full capacity they could've saved roughly half the people on the ship, but due to incompetency on the officers' parts, less the 750 people were actually saved.
BS - a major reason was that the passengers didn't want to get on, because they believed that the Titanic was unsinkable. The officers were trying to get the passengers on, and didn't have the time to wait for the lifeboat to be filled - they rightfully decided that it would be better to get a half full life boat free of the sinking ship than to have an almost full lifeboat sink with the ship.
There was also a miscommunication in how to conduct the evacuation. Woman and children were to be boarded first, but many officers (including the notorious Charles Lightroller) understood the order as "board only women and children", so they had men wait for subsequent evacuations and launched the lifeboat half full.
Don't change scale mid story. You said "roughly half" then you said "750" and I don't know how many are half the people. Be consistent with your scale.
Well, I'm hoping that most of you here are aware of this, but I have been surprisingly shocked at how few people around me seem to have known this. But the influenza pandemic of 1918 that killed more people than world war one was absolutely terrifying. Children used to sing
"I knew a little bird, her name was Enza, I opened up the window, and in flew Enza."
The flu started in Kansas when some military soldiers were burning pig manure in a field. The flu then spread and killed 50 to 100 million people worldwide. More Americans were killed from this virus than Americans were killed in every single war in the 1900s combined.
It all happened in a 5 month window.
Yet there were still anti-vaxers and Covid deniers when the possibility arose again 😏
It would have helped if it was actually a vaccine. So many people still got Covid, and the "vax" actually caused many many terrible side effects.
Load More Replies... As well as ingrained slavery, many of the city states in Ancient Greece had institutionalised pederasty. Neither of these things were as prevalent in Persian culture.
Also, after democracy developed in Athens, it transitioned from an isolated city state to an expansionist empire that demanded protection tribute from puppet cities and islands.
The governments and religions of the USA, Australia and Canada have much to answer for the racist treatment of their original peoples. Too many of their citizens today have no idea of the atrocities carried out in the name of "civilising the natives."
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Load More Replies...Should add the US war in Southeast Asia. We know it as the VN war, but involved most SE Asian countries. The Brits defeated the communist insurgents in Malaysia, while the US destabilized and then caused the overthrow of the socialist government in Indonesia. Along with that the US and allies destroyed large areas of N. Thailand and destroyed much of Laos and Cambodia. And of course there’s VN which was virtually totally destroyed. It was a large war in a region larger than Europe. More tons of bombs were dropped by the US than the total of all participants in WW2. The estimates of killed in the entire region range from 4 to 8 million. Most all of them civilians. Millions more if include the Pol Pot regime which was directly enabled by US actions.
A part of Indian history from Goa horrified me.. I heard about it recently. There is a pillar in Goa called Hat Katro Khamb where many Goan hindus were killed by the portuguese ruler during Goa i*********n. Their fault - they refused to convert to Christianity.
Sorry, during Goa what? Goa i***n? Seriously asking since I have no idea what word is meant to be there. Damnit BP, stop doing this!
Load More Replies...That time an experiment was performed on disabled children without consent when they were fed radioactive porridge.
Soundbites of devastating events designed to whip up hatred for people and countries due to mostly historical action or behaviour. Yet when you dig down the story as presented ain't always the full truth. And I think that just exacerbates a myth and creates hatred. The past is the past and can't be changed so best to learn from the event so that it does not happen in the future. And because it is convenient to perpetuate myth and hatred....pigs might fly! I hate soundbite history.
I've read about the many acts of genocide and random slaughter committed by the Roman Empire, along with the looting and slavery and - well, all that imperial stuff. You know what? It's history - and none of it gives me any cause to dislike modern Italians. No, what does *that* is the politicians they keep electing... 😉 (Berlusconi, Meloni - yep, them. 😁 You want to complain about us Brits and the clowns we keep electing? Go ahead, I'll probably agree with you.)
Load More Replies...The governments and religions of the USA, Australia and Canada have much to answer for the racist treatment of their original peoples. Too many of their citizens today have no idea of the atrocities carried out in the name of "civilising the natives."
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Load More Replies...Should add the US war in Southeast Asia. We know it as the VN war, but involved most SE Asian countries. The Brits defeated the communist insurgents in Malaysia, while the US destabilized and then caused the overthrow of the socialist government in Indonesia. Along with that the US and allies destroyed large areas of N. Thailand and destroyed much of Laos and Cambodia. And of course there’s VN which was virtually totally destroyed. It was a large war in a region larger than Europe. More tons of bombs were dropped by the US than the total of all participants in WW2. The estimates of killed in the entire region range from 4 to 8 million. Most all of them civilians. Millions more if include the Pol Pot regime which was directly enabled by US actions.
A part of Indian history from Goa horrified me.. I heard about it recently. There is a pillar in Goa called Hat Katro Khamb where many Goan hindus were killed by the portuguese ruler during Goa i*********n. Their fault - they refused to convert to Christianity.
Sorry, during Goa what? Goa i***n? Seriously asking since I have no idea what word is meant to be there. Damnit BP, stop doing this!
Load More Replies...That time an experiment was performed on disabled children without consent when they were fed radioactive porridge.
Soundbites of devastating events designed to whip up hatred for people and countries due to mostly historical action or behaviour. Yet when you dig down the story as presented ain't always the full truth. And I think that just exacerbates a myth and creates hatred. The past is the past and can't be changed so best to learn from the event so that it does not happen in the future. And because it is convenient to perpetuate myth and hatred....pigs might fly! I hate soundbite history.
I've read about the many acts of genocide and random slaughter committed by the Roman Empire, along with the looting and slavery and - well, all that imperial stuff. You know what? It's history - and none of it gives me any cause to dislike modern Italians. No, what does *that* is the politicians they keep electing... 😉 (Berlusconi, Meloni - yep, them. 😁 You want to complain about us Brits and the clowns we keep electing? Go ahead, I'll probably agree with you.)
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