Artists don't need money, right? Their work of line fills their souls, and that's enough for any human being, right? And after all, drawing or having a photography career is more like a hobby and nobody gets paid for their hobbies...right?
Well, no, obviously. It's not right. But that still seems to be the attitude of a lot of people who expect unpaid work form artists, unfortunately. A Twitter account called For Exposure is bringing this to the world's attention by tweeting the most ridiculous responses that young artists have received when they've had the downright nerve to ask for money for doing a job for somebody! From being offered to be paid in exposure, of course, to be asked to do their absolute best working for free just because; the attitude of the commissioners is just appalling at best.
Now, if you are an artist who often hears the phrase 'free work,' these tweets will be painfully relatable. If you sympathize with those with unpaid internship careers lasting their whole lives, these stories are a great example of the cause. So scroll down below to check the unpaid laborers' struggles for yourself.
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What this people think?! That artists don't need water, food, don't pay bills?!
I'd send the the doodles one does during a lecture or while on the phone.
My favourite ist the line 'you don't do this for a living and if you do that is really sad.'
It's not only skill and supplies that one has to think of when pricing a piece but also the time that goes into it. The longest I've worked on something is 20 hrs. At minimum wage that's 220 bucks. The bigger the piece the harder it is, for me at least. Asking for 50-100 is a good deal in my opinion. I could have been at my job earning rent instead of taking hrs to draw something for 10 bucks.
Their hotel analogy is really bad. They say "you wouldn't be able to because you can't build a hotel"? Well, no duh. You'd need money to do it, just like you'd need money to make art, plus you'd also need money to do other stuff, like pay bills and buy food and water. And I suppose they could argue you could get a real job to pay for that, but come on, if you have a full-time job, there's no way you'd have enough time to create art and stuff. Sorry for the mini-rant, just really hate people like this
you get what you pay for, its stupid to generalise like you do, 20$ is nothing when it comes to art, some paintings goes for hundreds of thousands of dollars, yet the paper its drawn on barely costs anything compared to the price, if i pay an artist 10-20$ ofcourse you get mostly bad art with barely any effort,but go to a good artist say "i will pay you 2000$ to draw my character" and if the artist is serious about their work you will get an amazing drawing with tons of detail just like you wanted it
The best thing about this is, EVERYONE with two hands and eyes can get an artist if they just work hard enough. „talent“ is just a buff that accelerates your progress a little bit. That said, each and every one of that dipshits could do Art themselves, if they were just willing to draw 5 hours min every day for let’s say 3 years. But you have to be willing. There is no shortcut. So another person took their free time and put it into getting better while you spend your miserable life working at Walmart and jerking off to tentacle porn and then you’ll get mad because other person actually have the will and dedication to make something out of their life unlike you worthless piece of s**t!? Not even kidding, f*****g kill yourself. You are the worst. This makes me so mad.
Sorry for the weird typos, cant seem to edit my comment (late night bored panda iPad in bed session)
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It's incredible how much people whine about twenty dollars... It doesn't bother him/her that he/she got a service for this money, so he/she actually spent it for him/herself, not onto the artist.... I got so tired of people like this one.
.....and if the world by any chance doesn't end next sunday we will reimburse you in 3 free sessions with our world class clairvoyant psychic.
Might as well be my own passion project and you the witness with no say in it. LOL
Bet there were nude women queuing around the block for this opportunity!
Admittedly, being a creative writer with a degree I have had this problem. I have fleshed out storylines that I want quality artwork for and have been willing to PAY for, but because so many people are gun-shy due to a shitload of people hounding mangaka to do it 'for exposure', it has gotten exponentially more difficult.
really with the plagiarizing?? My advice to this douche would be: go do your friends weddings, bar mitzvas, recitals etc for free (while doing your best possible work). Build your portfolio the way the rest of us had to.
So tempted to copy and send this to every author I like reading. :D
I tend to ball my hand into a fist and swing when people yell for no reason so don't be a little b***h and start crying.
I can brag this in front of my mum and even she won't be that impressed. So forget it.
Well, yeah! You ask for a service, you pay for that service...mate!
if racists are accused of being racist...isn't that just being called out?
someone needs to tell these artists all these people know to raise their prices!
This one has such a common and distinctive odor, I can sense it at "hello"
How much happier a world it would be if the numerous examples of sterling employ such as this actually skipped the time-wasting and went right to their sources who do great work for free!
All things considered that's one of the more reasonable things on this list
Ohhhhhh, ok. Now I get why Banksy doesn't ever get money for his stuff: it's FUN!
How come you never see gig posts seeking s****y, talentless artist-wannabes for no pay?
I don't need exposure if you found me, and my resume is good enough if you want me.
I can personally attest that a minimum of a half hour to a maximum of six hours can be required for even the simplest photo editing job. 30 minutes x 100 = 2.08333333 days for 25 bucks? kiss my a*s
It's an ad looking for extras..............usually people do this kind of thing for quite a bit less then doughnuts and energy drinks. I mean.............I would do it >.>
Psh, tell that to the likes of https://www.patreon.com/twokinds who is currently earning nearly $4,200 a MONTH through patreon.
Although, if each artist he manages to snare bails after one page, eventually, he'll have his free book!
Yup. They think because you can crochet, you will make stuff for them for free... I just give a ridiculously high quote hoping they will bugger off.... So far - none of them have... Maybe I should go higher...?
Well, if he can't draw his own, and he surely can't write.... Good luck to him...
I completely back this quote because of it's context. I've disagreed with so many of them and with what the people have been saying about artists, but this one in particular, I side with. What Doreen Costa is actually disagreeing with is a Rhode Island Tourism Campaign that had unnecessary expenses regarding hiring a designer. She is simply stating her opinion, which I find quite reasonable and relevant, about the fact that the leader of the campaign paid a graphic designer $1 million to design a logo for the campaign. Doreen is saying that it was a completely unnecessary expense when the state has access to design avenues they can utilise that WON't add extra cost to the public through tax. She is basically sticking up for the tax paying citizens as well as trying to right by artists. So, this should not be on here because it's got nothing to do with what this post is about. Please remove it. Find more info here: http://www.golocalprov.com/news/ri-tourism-campaign-in-chaos
I've apparently grossly-misunderstood how Christianity worked. Thanks for the inform!
That's so sad! People think that because you are "gifted" it's easy for you it must be free.
Here are three things I do. One of them is my paid job, the others are things I wish I could get paid for. Attorney: 4 years of college so I could go to law school, 3 years of law school, intense studying so I could pass the bar exam, and continuing education and on-the-job training. Singer: A lifetime of singing, several years of voice lessons, and hours upon hours of practice for every solo and/or choir concert. Photographer: 3 years of high school photography classes, 4 years of college photography classes, and continually improving my skills by trying different things with my camera and manipulating exposure in the "lab" (which is now Photoshop but I used to work in a darkroom). I don't see any difference in the amount of dedication it took to acquire the necessary skills for any of the three things I do. So if I get paid for being an attorney because I worked hard at it, hell yes artists should get paid too.
Unfortunately I've accepted a job like this once and got scammed into another one. I didn't mind at the time since I was just starting and got almost full creative freedom to make the cover art for a bands album. They of course would start paying me later on once they start selling their music and booking gigs. Never heard from them again and it was a lesson learned. Never had clients since asking me to work for free, even friends expect they would have to pay some if they ask me for some designs and I just charge them a reduced rate.
Art is a beautiful thing - if someone doesn't want to pay for it then they don't get the luxury of enjoying it. It's called even exchange...
Without the rich patrons of the Middle ages and up to the present we would have no art in all our museums around the world So why do people think that Artists and other talented people would or could or should work for free Or ever have As the old expression goes "The workman is worth of His Hire"
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Why would anyone think it's a good idea to not pay hard-working artists?
Well, it is rather simple. Being cheeky in combination with not understanding supply an demand means that you do not get your work done by skilled people. Unless you are in a true situation of power. Unpayed long-term interships would be an example for the latter. In that case "do it for your CV" is pretty similar to "do it for exposure"...
I should not be surprised, I've had a creative job for over a decade, but the sheer degree of derision and rudeness ist just astonishing.
here are free trade signals with tools trade https://youtu.be/fFyA5bCsFEs
If your attitude would be like this, then better grab a pencil and start drawing for yourself.
This happens not only to artists. I'm a doctor, And people expect to get free medical opinion or even prescriptions, only because this Is a "vocation " job. If you dare to tell that's what you do for a living, then you're not committed With your profession. People thinks that The hypocrathic oath means you have to work for free 😡😡😡😡
So they do not understand it then ? I looked it up and reread it just to make sure I remembered it right No part of it says A doctor works for free,especially nowadays with how much schooling costs
Load More Replies... I had to stop reading these after the first few since I felt compelled to find the morons who'd said those things and provide them with my martial arts services for free in the form of a good kick to the face.
I think it is absolutely ridiculous that some people EXPECT artists to do things for free or that being an artist is not a professional career. I have much to say about so many of these posts but I won't because you're all probably thinking the same thing. I will however say that I thought a number of these posts didn't deserve to be in here as there wasn't much wrong with them. It is okay to ask someone to volunteer their time - work experience, unpaid interns and people working for others for beer/food do exist in this world and they're not all bad. Some of the posts like that were harmless and shouldn't have been included in the list 'cos they weren't irrational like the rest. Other than that, I hope this post will reach out to many and change their views for the better. Artistry is an industry.
"I bought a CD today" "Who's the artist?" "I don't know I don't remember, anyway I don't want to give them exposure"
That's so sad! People think that because you are "gifted" it's easy for you it must be free.
Here are three things I do. One of them is my paid job, the others are things I wish I could get paid for. Attorney: 4 years of college so I could go to law school, 3 years of law school, intense studying so I could pass the bar exam, and continuing education and on-the-job training. Singer: A lifetime of singing, several years of voice lessons, and hours upon hours of practice for every solo and/or choir concert. Photographer: 3 years of high school photography classes, 4 years of college photography classes, and continually improving my skills by trying different things with my camera and manipulating exposure in the "lab" (which is now Photoshop but I used to work in a darkroom). I don't see any difference in the amount of dedication it took to acquire the necessary skills for any of the three things I do. So if I get paid for being an attorney because I worked hard at it, hell yes artists should get paid too.
Unfortunately I've accepted a job like this once and got scammed into another one. I didn't mind at the time since I was just starting and got almost full creative freedom to make the cover art for a bands album. They of course would start paying me later on once they start selling their music and booking gigs. Never heard from them again and it was a lesson learned. Never had clients since asking me to work for free, even friends expect they would have to pay some if they ask me for some designs and I just charge them a reduced rate.
Art is a beautiful thing - if someone doesn't want to pay for it then they don't get the luxury of enjoying it. It's called even exchange...
Without the rich patrons of the Middle ages and up to the present we would have no art in all our museums around the world So why do people think that Artists and other talented people would or could or should work for free Or ever have As the old expression goes "The workman is worth of His Hire"
Load More Replies... Why would anyone think it's a good idea to not pay hard-working artists?
Well, it is rather simple. Being cheeky in combination with not understanding supply an demand means that you do not get your work done by skilled people. Unless you are in a true situation of power. Unpayed long-term interships would be an example for the latter. In that case "do it for your CV" is pretty similar to "do it for exposure"...
I should not be surprised, I've had a creative job for over a decade, but the sheer degree of derision and rudeness ist just astonishing.
here are free trade signals with tools trade https://youtu.be/fFyA5bCsFEs
If your attitude would be like this, then better grab a pencil and start drawing for yourself.
This happens not only to artists. I'm a doctor, And people expect to get free medical opinion or even prescriptions, only because this Is a "vocation " job. If you dare to tell that's what you do for a living, then you're not committed With your profession. People thinks that The hypocrathic oath means you have to work for free 😡😡😡😡
So they do not understand it then ? I looked it up and reread it just to make sure I remembered it right No part of it says A doctor works for free,especially nowadays with how much schooling costs
Load More Replies... I had to stop reading these after the first few since I felt compelled to find the morons who'd said those things and provide them with my martial arts services for free in the form of a good kick to the face.
I think it is absolutely ridiculous that some people EXPECT artists to do things for free or that being an artist is not a professional career. I have much to say about so many of these posts but I won't because you're all probably thinking the same thing. I will however say that I thought a number of these posts didn't deserve to be in here as there wasn't much wrong with them. It is okay to ask someone to volunteer their time - work experience, unpaid interns and people working for others for beer/food do exist in this world and they're not all bad. Some of the posts like that were harmless and shouldn't have been included in the list 'cos they weren't irrational like the rest. Other than that, I hope this post will reach out to many and change their views for the better. Artistry is an industry.
"I bought a CD today" "Who's the artist?" "I don't know I don't remember, anyway I don't want to give them exposure"
