Being a parent is one of the hardest jobs in the world. It’s impossible to do it perfectly, but there are a million different ways to do it well. As long as your little ones have all of the love and support they need, as well as a clean and safe place to rest their heads at night, you're probably doing a great job.
But sadly, there are some moms and dads out there who could use a lesson in how to be a good parent. Redditors have recently been sharing glaringly obvious red flags that someone’s not a good parent, so we’ve gathered the most heartbreaking ones below. We hope that none of these examples remind you of your own mother and father, pandas, but they might be good reminders of what not to do with your kids.
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Filming everything your child does and creating a social media page to garner likes and ad revenue.
My son (7) is convinced he wants to be a youtuber.. I refuse to let him, there's too many crazy people online..
Before my husband and I got married, I told him in no uncertain terms that if/when we have kids, we will take photos of them, print them and put them in an album. If friends want to see pics, we send them as snaps or they can see pics when they come over but, I want our kids to grow up with the smallest possible footprint. I don't want future employers finding pics of them in onesies taking their first steps. Some of my friends post 5+ photos/videos PER DAY of their children on public social media for any creep or weirdo to potentially see and I know they mean no harm but one of my friends was told that someone else had sent them a pic of their kid and acted like it was theirs not my friend's. That's messed up. Luckily my husband agreed with me. Now we just need to hope his family respects it.
I... I can't even describe the insanity, not just from the parents online, but the people in the comments in the videos. These pop into my Facebook shorts all the time. (I guess FB thinks because of my age and that I'm a parent it's an interest.) But out of curiosity I like to see what's new in the baby caring world. Some of the videos are subtly but purposefully exploitative. Many of the people in the comments defend the video creator, and refuse to understand how dangerous it is to show certain things about babies online. If you warn the creators in the comments, the "fans" tell you you're the pervert for thinking of the babies that way. Meanwhile, that's not the case. Some of the videos are just showing babies sleeping on their stomachs with their bare bums in the air. The comments are like "That's how they get their vitamin D and prevent diaper rash." Okay, great. Why film them in that state and put it online for God knows who to see and download?
And the ones who post less than appropriate content knowing full well who their main demographic is......evil parents
If i remember correctly i was watching shoeOnHead (a youtuber) she made a video about the topic of p*dos online. And under that video another was recommended to me from a youtuber i dont remember the name of... She also exposed a really vile fed up thing on tiktok... Parent who have bath and pool video of their kids... over and over on their channel. It was their main content... There is no other way to see it. They were pimping their children to inhuman freaks on tiktok...
Your own children being afraid of you, no child should be afraid of the person that looks after them nearly 24/7.
I noticed this in the children of a neighbor years ago and started paying more attention. Turned the parents into CPS. I was correct in my deduction and the children were removed. Yes I WILL be "that person" where children are concerned.
I was afraid of my father. Today was the first time in my life I stood up to him without fear. I turn 50 later this year.
I’m 42 now and I’m still afraid of my mother, who is 79. She is a toxic narcissist who used to beat me with whatever she happened to have in her hand. She pressed a gun to my throat when I was 6 and told my dad she would kill me if he went on a business trip. She is still violent and a horrible person (and my sister is just like her.) I won’t be sad at all when she dies. That’s what you get when you’re a violent, abusive parent - your kids will hate you forever.
Hope she is no longer in your life - though sympathy if she is. No one needs to feel guilted into staying in contact if they don't want to, or be judged if they do.
Load More Replies...My Dad was killed on May 21, we buried him on May 23 and my 7th birthday was May 24, 1984. He was incredibly violent when he was drunk and an very controlling hardass the rest of the time. It's sad that his dying might have been the best thing for our family. He always told Mom that if she ever took us and left then he would find her and kill all of us and anytime we tried to call the cops it just made things worse. He was 46 years old when he died and it's weird to think that I've now outlived him when I turned 47. I learned a lot of things about his life before he met Mom and that after what my Grandmother put him through that he never stood a chance. I do have some good memories of him, but he did some really bad things to my siblings and I so they absolutely hate him. My Mom was the best though and she was my best friend and it still tears me up that she's gone. I miss her more then I can ever say or explain how much she meant to me.
I was deathly afraid of my mother, she beat me and berated me pretty much everyday. When I left home at 17, it took me 8 years for the intimidation to wear off. There have been times she's tried to bully me but I held my ground and she's backed off quickly. Looking back I now realize that she was nothing more than a coward that would continue until you stand up to them.
What a different attitude to when I grew up in Australia. The idea then was , in my family, that a "good" child was basically a terrified child. Regular beatings, threats and blamed for everything was the order of the day.
May I ask how old you are? I'm in my 30s and grew up (mostly in germany) with a NZ father. And I too was the "good" terrified child
Load More Replies...I was afraid of my mother. She was a horrible narcissist and our relationship was toxic. she never had a civil word for me. I could never do a single thing right. She called me "thick", "stupid" and "useless" every day, and when you're a child being told that every day of your life you eventually start to believe it. Some days i hardly dared to breathe. I spent my entire childhood walking on eggshells around her and by the time I was 16 thanks to her I had no self confidence and no self worth. I left home as soon as I could when I was 17. Some years later she launched a relentless tirade of abuse on me because I wasn't raising my kids her way. For the first time in my life I stood up to her and said, "I'm your daughter, not your enemy but if you want me as an enemy that's fine". I think it hit home because since then the has treated me like a human being and not something she has stepped in.
I grew up being afraid of my parents. My mom died 2 years ago (I was 54) and I don't know why but I am not sad or grieving. In fact, I do know why... It's your guess
That might be highly likely because of abuse: emotional, physical, psychological
When the older kids have no life or time on their own as they're too busy raising their siblings.
This happened to my mom, the oldest of seven. Her mom was a dingbat and her dad worked long hours in a factory to provide for nine freaking people. Oh Catholicism.
I am gonna use that “dingbat” to sprinkle my future arguments with some zest.
Load More Replies...The new term is "parentification" where one of the kids is forced to raise the others.
I snapped under the pressure of being the oldest and fell into a spiral of depression; my younger sis had to pick up the slack :/
Happened to me too- well, me and my oldest stepbrother. He resented it and I don't blame him. He was a genius. Like, literally. He tried, Lord knows he did- once he created a 'library' system with all the books he had and we would 'check them out' bc we could not go to an actual library- that was too much work for my dad. My stepmom worked her butt off as a vet tech, sometimes 6 days a week and on her one day off, we wanted to give her "me time" which literally just translated to her suntanning in the backyard. She finally was able to convince my dad to buy an above ground pool for all of us. She was a literal angel. She passed away in 2001. My older stepbrother (I was the only girl) ended up a doctor. I became an RN. Neither of us have a relationship with 'dad'.
I've seen this sort of happen to an old friend. I much later learned her mom was an alcoholic, which explains why her mom yelled and put her down so much. She had to do the bedtime routines for her 2 younger sisters, bathed them, brushed their hair, made sure they brushed their teeth, and entertain them during the day. Sometimes we were able to get out on our own, but her mom was not in a good mood when we would get back to her place. Her only respite was when she was over for sleepovers at my place.
That was me. My Dad left my Mom with 4 kids to raise, I was 8 and the baby was still in diapers. I became parentified right then. I was always pretty tidy, but now I was expected to mop floors and clean bathrooms. By the time I was 13 I was burned out. I told my Mom that I couldn't continue being her Nanny. I was in Speech & Debate, the Drama Club, the Soccer team and the cheer squad. She threw a fit, so I ran away. The cops picked me up and I got sent to juvie. I told my counselor the whole story and she was totally on my side. Now, don't misunderstand - I love my siblings, but I never got a childhood of my own. I ended up going to live with my Dad & stepmother in San Diego. Mom & I are fine now, but we really didn't talk much for a few years.
Using children as pawns in divorces or separations.
the parents get so wrapped up in themselves they don't see what emotional damage it does to the kids they're trying to score brownie points for...the kids get lost in the middle
This is so very true. My sister and my BILare family lawyers dealing with divorce and custody. They say it is VERY rare for parents to TRULY put the children first. Each parent usually says 'I only want what's best' and usually are assuming it's them. He sees a lot of attempts to alienate the other parent. Some so badly that the child is brainwashed into being scared of them. It is so sad.
Load More Replies...Kids are not trophies to be won in divorce. You had them as a couple, now you can share them as parents. Unless, of course, there's a serious issue where that's not a good idea.
My narcissistic ex did this - hurt my kids to hurt me. Evil, evil person.
My parents only ever involved me in an argument once. It was one of the scariest things in my life so far cuz it had gotten so intense.
I once worked in a divorce lawyers office and I saw what happened to the children. I cried every day for those kids and had to quit because it was too emotionally draining.
Dad did this to my sibling and me. I truly pity him because he is perpetuating the cycle that his paternal family created with their own toxicity.
My ex has done this to my kid (13) his whole life. Coaching, mind games, suddenly handing me full custody from 50/50(coz he got caught coaching, he wanted full custody), then harassment via social services until they got wise to him. It makes me furious that I can't find a way to protect my child from the emotional harm. But we've had a good play therapist in the past, and good access to it currently since recent attempts were made by his father again. I wish he could let it go, or at least just attack me, and leave our kid out of it. I guess that's just what it's like dealing with narcissism and poor anger control. I wish I could protect my kid better.
I am sure that my parents never even considered divorce. Muder - often. But never divorce.
I'll use my mom as an example: When their goal is to have a child, not to raise an adult. So they purposefully keep them young, discourage independence, and pour their entire identity into being mom. Then, when that kid becomes an adult, they have no idea what to do with their life.
Oh, I've seen too much of this. It's not always about not wanting your kid to grow up, though, a lot of the time a parent just does everything for them because "it's just faster if I do it myself" without realizing that they're denying their kids the chance to learn vital life skills.
They'll either learn to do things their way - and, occasionally, fail and deal with that too - or they'll learn to be helpless and need 24/7 supervision. Parents are there to help the child grow up into an adult, not to keep them as a child.
Load More Replies...Women I have worked with who only identify themselves as a mom. Not even a working mom, just a mom. They usually get a kind of starry-eyed Madonna look when they say the word mom, as if they have an invisible halo and are beatified in the sight of the lord, or some such mystical nonsense. Every time I would point out to them that are so much more than that, they refuse to acknowledge it, and stick to the starry-eyed mom look. I guess their next one and only ID will be grandma. Nothing else. Kind of a one-dimensional caricature existence, instead of the multidimensional one women deserve.
As a kid me and my sister played with the boys in the neighborhood. One day we were playing, and there was a kid who moved in next door, we'll call him "Phil" because that was the name I teased him with, not his real name though. Anyways, Phil had a teenager 'Barbara' as a sister. Anyways, Phil always kept interrupting our playing, telling us what game to play, and then trying to ATTACK US when we didn't play with him. One day, his mom "Marcy" walked outside with Barbara. Marcy and Barbara just stood, talking, never once glancing over to go, "Hey, why are those kids throwing plastic swords?" Then Phil pushed my sister. Marcy ran over, "ARE YOU OKAY!?" Lil sis kept insisting that she was fine, but Marcy still went to get a band-aid. Barbara gave us border-line creepy hawk eyes, and instantly I knew... Phil wasn't deliberately being a brat- he didn't know how to be anything else because of how much he was sheltered.
My friend has a four and a half year old daughter still in diapers. Smart child but mommy wants her baby! Dad doesn't even get to spend time with her. Sad
I know a family like that. The mother does everything for her kids; father was powerless (if mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy). Father passes, kids are 1 (older) minor, 1 YA. Neither know how to do basic vehicle maintenance, but drive their cars--can't even jump off a battery. Don't know how to do laundry or cook--mama does the laundry, they eat out a lot now because Daddy did a lot of the cooking when he was alive. Kids can't even mow the yard w/o getting the mower stuck in some form or fashion. Once had some cut wood to get rid of, they came to get --kid asks ME to load it up in the wheelbarrow...I'm abt 20 yrs OLDER than his mother! Told him to get the sibling & then I watched them act like it was a huge problem to figure out how to do it...mama's only doing them & the rest of the world a HUGE disservice. When she's gone, they are going to be so lost (no jobs either). I spend most of my time just shaking my head in disbelief...
Letting your child watch a video on their iPad on full volume in a restaurant. Please parent your child and engage with them so they know how when they are older.
My child won't wear them, he hates the feel. But then, he gets a colouring or sticker book.
Load More Replies...Teach your child to be able to eat at a restaurant without needing to be entertained by a device.
I don't mind them having the device if it keeps them from misbehaving or being disruptive. BUT not at full volume. headphones or no sound on. is fine
Load More Replies...I don't understand the excuses parents of today have for just plopping devices in front of their kids. They're so afraid of letting their kids be bored or be included in conversations with the adults, and actually have to be the ones to entertain their own kids. My mom was always on me. If there was no crayons and colouring paper for kids at the restaurant, my mom would give me a pen and let me draw on a paper napkin or give me a paper pad. Sometimes she would let me bring books or my sticker album. Something that kept me seated and quiet, and was a quiet activity. It can be done today. There's no good excuse to be disruptive to other diners.
Weddings, graduations, memorial services... it's absolutely infuriating! Going to these events with parents who model appropriate behavior is the point
Load More Replies...I truly don't understand how this has become the norm in recent years. I have a younger teen nephew who never uses his headphones until his mother reprimands him. It's a constant battle because he claims it's not cool to use to them. Like wtf?! Why?!
Teach your children that other people exist and you need to be respectful of them
My mom didn’t give my sibling and me cell phones until we were in high school. We also didn’t get social media accounts until our mid-adolescence and I’m glad we didn’t!
Taking their bedroom door off because they haven't "earned" privacy.
My Mom did that to me one time and I completely deserved it. I was 15 and we were arguing and I had a bad habit of slamming my door when I was mad. She told me if I slammed it one more time that she was taking it off its hinge, so being a brat I yelled and slammed it again. 2 seconds later Mom comes in with a hammer and screwdriver and took it off the hinge. At the time it was just the two of us living in our house, so it wasn't like I lost all privacy since it was in the summer and Mom was at work most of the time and i only lost it for 3 days. I learned my lesson since I'm 47 and she's gone now but I still won't slam a door.
In this case it was not a random punishment or controlling measure but a legit consequence, including the short time (because the point was made by then).
Load More Replies...My daughter's best friend had her bedroom door removed, by her stepfather in a fit of rage. And that was when she came to live with me for a few weeks, until things calmed down at home. She slept on my sofa, so she actually had less privacy here, but a whole lot more respect! Now, I know and love this girl (young woman now), and I acknowledge with affection and honesty that she undoubtedly contributed to whatever conflict led to the door removal. But a stepfather taking that action toward a teen stepdaughter is just not okay. Incidentally, the stepfather later went to jail after trying to burn the house down.
The photo BP picked for this one literally has twice as many doors as most bedrooms have. That is some kind of a record in poor-photo-choosing.
I've absolutely have lived in homes where my bedroom had 2 doors in N.A. BP is based in Europe where that is much more common though so I get it.
Load More Replies...Removing a door as punishment or for any other reason is sick and abusive. IMO, it only makes the kid more angry and frustrated. Why don't parents TALK to their kids. Sounds like lazy parenting.
My dad and ex-stepmother didn’t think children deserved privacy, either. Fortunately, my ex-stepmother wised up and recognized that she was in an abusive marriage about a decade after the fact. I only wish my dad had done the same for his sake and quit being the abuser.
My parents took my door off because I wouldn’t stop slamming it for a month and it worked
Being on your phone while the kids are running rampant. i get people need breaks but at a restaurant i don't really want kids coming over to my table and messing with food and screaming everywhere.
Maybe two years ago I was at a restaurant with my then boyfriend and his family. His brother has two kids and his sister has one. Who had to wrangle them?? Me. These kids were all over the place… The parents and grandparents couldn’t have cared less.
Restaurants are not playgrounds. Beyond being rude and inconsiderate, restaurants can be dangerous. Can you imagine kids tripping up a server carrying scalding hot foods like soup, fajitas, fondue, or something. Skin grafts are not fun.
When I was a waitress decades ago, I was carrying out the big soup urn for the salad bar and a child ran out in front of me, thankfully it didn't spill on the kid, but all over my hands and knuckles. I still have scars from where the skin blistered. Man, it was really bad, but I'm glad I took it and not the kid!
Load More Replies...You want a break? Hire a sitter. Can't afford one? Sucks for you, too bad. I loathe these terrible, entitled PoS that let their children run amok in public places under the rationalization of "if you think this is bad, imagine my life. This is what i have to live with 24/7!" Yes....it is, because those little monsters were your choice, and your failure as a parent is why they're misbehaving little demons. Many of the people you see getting visibly pissed off as your children actively suck, have their own kids too! But they've made the choice to actually get a break, away from their children and don't have any interest in enduring your apathetic entitlement.
I’m 63, and way back when I was about 10 or 12, I remember being at a nice restaurant with my family. In walks another family group, with one toddler. The restaurant was out of booster seats that night, so the kid had to sit in a high chair. He was having NONE of it, because he didn’t want to sit in a “baby chair”. Understandable. But also unavoidable. So he’s throwing a tantrum, and they finally get him in the chair. His mom is seated next to him. She manages to get his attention, and has him turn that attention to this huge painting on the wall his chair is facing. She starts weaving a story about the people and animals in the picture, and asking him what he thought would happen next. He was relatively quiet and engaged in talking about the painting’s story the rest of dinner. I watched this unfold, as I was planning to do some babysitting for spending money, and was gathering information on how to keep kids calm and happy. It showed me just how much more valuable a mother who stays calm and thinks outside the box can be, as opposed to parents who lose their s**t at their kids or ignore them completely when out in public. Plus, it wasn’t like the mother was only talking with her son, she was able to join in the conversation with the other adults too—-some of whom also talked with her son about the painting too. I have never forgotten that scene, even though it’s been well over 50 years now, and that toddler probably has grandchildren of his own now.
I now have an appreciation for seeing authoritative parents who actually manage and control their kids, and don't allow them to scream and screech inside anywhere. The ones that say "I just ignore them. If I give them any attention at all, they know that's how to get my attention forever... Oh, that's annoying for 2 hours in a store? Do you want to hear them scream for 6 more years?" type of b******t mentality, all they want is an excuse to not put down their phone do some uncomfortable parenting. Like, picking the kid up in the football hold and marching them out of the store, to either calm down or go home. "Why should I punish myself because of my kid's behaviour?" It's your kid and you both need a time out for childish behaviour if you think it's acceptable for kid to be disruptive in public.
Do people really experience this often? Luckily my kids have never behaved that way, even with ADHD. They really STRUGGLE to sit still and they sometimes talk too loudly; not out of disrespect, but because of impulse issues that come with ADHD. As soon as we remind them to chill, they get a little embarrassed; they always try their best. They wiggle like worms on cocaine, but that's not something we should try to strictly control as (per therapist) it's impossible and they can develop a failure complex. On the rare occasion that we all go out to eat, they might have to get up and walk for second, so one of us takes them the long way to the bathroom, go potty, wiggle dance, and come back. Those tiny breaks are all they need to break up the time and be able to relax. Still, with all that going on they have never interrupted someone's meal, tried to touch them or their food or anything like it. If not going to the potty, they stay in their seats even when it's hard. So WTH?
I work in a thrift store. I've heard kids scream like they're being murdered for 2 hours. We cannot ask the family to leave, but I gotta say it's so disturbing to hear. Sometimes I discreetly check to see if the kid is actually okay and what the parent is doing. Sure enough, the mom is casually walking down the aisles without a care. Absolutely selfish and inconsiderate to the staff and other shoppers.
Load More Replies...I grew up with parents who weren't able to take us out very often, so when we did go to a restaurant, it was a treat. And we were expected to behave: if we acted up, we immediately got taken out to the car to sit out the rest of the meal. We all learned real fast to mind our manners (which we were also taught) and behave. (This mainly happened to my older brother and sister. I mean, my parents went out to Red Lobster about 6 months after I was born and the waitress only knew I was there at the very end of the meal - I had been lying across my mom's lap, totally zonked out. 😄)
Stealing from your child. When I started college I had saved up about $800 for books and supplies. Two days before class starts I go to buy my book. I have $600 worth of stuff ranging from up and my card declines. I put everything back and check my bank app. I have $30. It says that the last transaction was an in bank transfer to my dad account. I called him and asked what happened.
His response:
“I was short on bills. I’ll get you back in two weeks on payday.
Me: “ok but you didn’t ask. I need that for school and I just looked like a moron since my card declined.”
Him: “I’m the parent. I don’t have to ask you for anything. You should be grateful I’m giving it back at all. It’s not my fault you didn’t check your bank account before trying to make a big purchase.
Later that night he cussed me out for changing my passwords and log in info. He says he has the right to see what I’m spending my money on.
I got the money back a week later with an extra $200 “for the inconvenience”.
But the damage was done. I already had flunked two quizzes because I didn’t have textbooks and my library only had the outdated copy that gave me wrong answers.
There was a recent story of an 18 year old who had scrimped and saved for college to the tune of nearly 18k. Their parents drained the account and then claimed they were owed. The kid filed a police report and went NC. The parents did time.
I'm sorry, but 'the old book had the wrong answers ' is a bit dramatic. Usually the new edition changes are ridiculously minor. I tell students to check for an old edition online because they are usually 99% the same. Now our college includes books in the tuition but you only get an ebook
That's plain financial abuse. Any sort of abuse should be grounds for reporting.
NGL, I have borrowed money from my kids when I needed cash, i.e. the farmer's market, or food trucks. (I have money, I just never carry cash) . I always pay it back.
Do you ask and in a nonpressuring nonguilt-trip way?
Load More Replies...I had my parents on my bank account up until I was 20 simply for emergencies. They never once violated that trust by stealing my money - parents who do that are thieves, plain and simple. (Honestly, my mom was guilty of ADDING money to my account from time to time rather than taking any - my dad was just a name as he couldn't care less.)
$200 for two flunked quizzes (apparently in economics) is a 25% ROI within a week
Treating your kid as your therapist.
This doesn’t mean don’t show emotion to your child, just don’t dump all your worries onto them and anxieties that they shouldn’t have to think about as a kid
Yes. Explain it in terms they can understand, not going into detail, of course. That way, they have an idea what’s up, and will understand times are tough and they might have to adjust—-and sometimes it will amaze you how kids can tune in and come up with the best and simplest solutions to the issues at hand. We adults can sometimes overthink and muddle things in our heads, while a child can cut through all our b******t and see exactly what needs to be done.
Load More Replies...I was the therapist / friend for my dad - it started as a young age - my dad struggled with depression and alcohol abuse! For years I thought I am blessed because we had such a good "relationship" - I am 52 now and still working on this stuff!
I saw something like that on a train once. A woman complained to her roughly 6 year old son about how insufferable and unlikable her co-workers are. The kid replied with the kind of lingo you'd expect from a 30 year old. I kinda felt sorry for the boy.
Kids should never be concerned about your relationship with their dad, nor your other relationships, if you're not with the dad. They should never be concerned about your finances. Even if you find yourself homeless with your kids, to them it could be an adventure someplace. Kids have enough stress with friends, bullies, schooling, and I'm sure they hear enough family drama during the holidays.
One of my sisters was my mother's confidante from the age of 11. My mother would talk about her problems to her and my sister felt guilty because she couldn't do anything to help. What was she supposed to do - marriage counselling her own parents?? It's called emotional incest, in part because the parent is telling things to the child that should only be told to one's spouse, a therapist or a friend with good listening skills. It's an unfair burden and takes advantage of the power imbalance and emotional bonds.
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Having extremely unreasonable, unrealistic expectations for your child, i.e., maintain 5.0 GPA Pre-K to College, earn a noble peace price at 20, somehow get married at 25, and have 6 kids by 30, get six figure job right after college, take care of the entire family on their own dime etc.
When i was a HS teacher, i was astounded at the shear amount of energy that parents put into making sure their child had perfect grades while totally disregarding helping them shape into functioning adults who, i don't know, could actually thrive in college and beyond, not just get into a good school.
Was a lecturer for an undergraduate that needed results on the higher end of the scale to get in (in ireland every course has a specific threshold of what's needed in terms of marks to get in) and some of the kids who got well above the entry marks really struggled to cope in 1st year. One guy, had gotten the max marks you can get and ended up failing 1st year. He couldn't manage his own time, had poor critical thinking skills, and was always broke because he'd spend all his money on nights out. He wasn't on the spectrum at least he didn't have a diagnosis and honestly didn't appear to be. He was just so used to being spoon fed by his mother that he never learned to do a lot of things for himself. Also he never seemed to have had a social life pre college so of course he over did it when he finally gor freedom. He refused help from student services with time management etc. Because apparently he told his mother we had referred him and she put her foot down.
Load More Replies...I had a friend in highschool who dropped out after Year 10. Now she has a PhD. I myself had cruddy marks in Year 12, but now have a Master's Degree. Some parents really need to chill the F out about school grades. There are other options which don't put crippling amounts of pressure on your kids!
I brought home a report card that was all A+ save for a B+ in gym class. My father's response was, "Why can't you do better?"
And at that point you realize that the jerk will never be satisfied no matter what, so you just stop trying.
Load More Replies...This sounds outrageous but I knew a handful of kids with some of these expectations :(
Post secondary schools don't really look at your elementary school grades. They're more focused on Grade 9 - 12, when you start earning credits you need for graduation. I don't recall even seeing my elementary classes on my transcripts. At least that's how it is in Canada.
My mom and her boyfriend (now fiance) always said I have to have A's and B's before we even talk about me having my phone at school. Suddenly, they don't expect straight A's. They say they don't care as long as I'm trying my best but when I was trying my best, it wasn't good enough. Now they don't expect straight A's, just because I gave up.
Grades are for the state to use for money. They don't mean you learn anything!! Look at the stupidity in America! Rethuglicans are AGAINST education!!! How does that help anyone??
I was expected to be a full-time housekeeper, nanny, maid AND keep a perfect GPA.
Never apologizes.
I was an adult before I found out that parents apologize to their kids. I just assumed it was something that wasn’t done but then they were always, ALWAYS right, and so had nothing to apologize for.
Same, I think in my whole life my mum and dad have apologised once, and never in person, through a letter of gift. It is definitely something I have had to work on a lot as an adult.
Load More Replies...If I dared to disagree with my mother she would refuse to acknowledge my existence and leave me to fend for myself until I had literally got on my knees and begged for forgiveness, even if she was the one who was in the wrong.
My dad never apologized, either to my mom or to us kids. He was the father, therefore he was right. After all, that was the way his father did it, so why change?/s Now that he's an old fart, he's mellowed out, but if he does finally apologize, it's in a martyr-like, insincere way.
Always admit when you're wrong or when you don't know something. That's strength, not weakness.
When I was in 5th grade I made fire patrol. I was very excited but my parents didn't think it was a big deal. 4 years later my Sister mad Safety Patrol (Fire patrol was all year because we only had 6 fire drills, Saftey patrol was 1 grading period bc it was every day) The Teacher in charge told my Mom. Mom commented about everyone got a turn. The teacher explained no, that only the best behaved kids were allowed to participate. Mom and Dad apologized to me 4 years later. That had a big impact on me that they remembered and understood they had made a mistake.
If I did something that warrants an apology, I have no problem admitting I was wrong and I will apologize to my kid (11 yrs old). They also have the right to call me out when I do something or am being unreasonable or a b***h.
Being Anti-Vax.
I cannot imagine any parent willing to sacrifice their child, just to prove a point. How many are now blind, deaf, with scarred lungs, or cardiac problems, all because the parents distrust modern medicine? How many more have to die before people get a clue that VACCINATIONS SAVE LIVES?
If they're not getting vaccinated as a kid, they'll be getting their vaccines caught up when they're adults. I know someone who's had to do that.
Measles and Whooping cough should have almost been eradicated with routine vaccinations - There is currently a high surge in cases in the UK. Children have died due to ignorance! Abominable!
The same people get vaxced for the flu and it is the same ingredients minus the virus! Stupidity at its finest!!!
Alright, your assertion that immigrants don't have vaccines is a good hypothesis. Let's test it with some data! Immigrants can be divided into two categories: those who came into the US legally and those who didn't. I'll address the first group first. According to the USCIS [uscis.gov/tools/designated-civil-surgeons/vaccination-requirements] all immigrants are required to have, among others, the MMR, COVID, and many other vaccines. The number of undocumented immigrants is estimated at 10.5 million [pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/11/16/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/] as of 2021. Of those, 4.1 million are from Mexico, which exceeds the US in vaccination. Per the Excel document by Pew, which I'm sourcing this data from, another 475,000 come from other countries (China and [technically both North and South but the number of North Korean immigrants admitted legally into the US is 'around 200' per csis.org/analysis/north-korean-refugees-and-imminent-danger-forced-repatriation-china as of 2023, so I'm counting it as only South because on the scale of 100,000 200 doesn't matter and there's no reason to expect undocumented immigration to be much higher] Korea) that also exceed the US, for a total of 4.675 million, or roughly 45 percent [technically 44.5238095%] coming from a country that exceeds the US in vaccination. [Data source for vaccination: I used Our World In Data's share of kids receiving the second dose of the MCV2 (measles) vaccine as a proxy for total vaccination. South Korea, China and Mexico all exceed the US, as of 2021. Link: ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-children-vaccinated-with-mcv2] *IMPORTANT NOTE: This assumes undocumented immigrants are reflective of the population of their country of origin, i.e. just as likely to be vaccinated. This may or may not be true. Also, the data from 2021 might not be super reflective of immigrants today, as these are kids. However, if we assume they were born in the earliest year tracked for each of the countries, the numbers don't change much. Brazil, Mexico [2000], Ecuador [2009], and the Dominican Republic [tie; 2018] tied or exceeded the US, which adds up to 4,370,000 if you don't count the Dominican Republic or 4,500,000 if you do. Those are percentages of [accurate to first decimal place] 41.6 and 42.9 percent, not much different.* TL;DR: I get into rabbit holes (I tried 2 way more complicated methods before I thought of checking the USCIS, including carefully compiling data on home countries. FYI, there's an over 1/3 chance that even if the USCIS didn't require vaccinations, they'd come from a country where they were more likely to be vaccinated than not!) Also, your hypothesis, while a good hypothesis, turns out to have no good evidence supporting it and quite a bit against it. Have a nice day and a more accurate, data-based worldview! edit: forgot a space after a period.
Load More Replies...Constantly yelling and losing it on your kids. How are they going to learn about stability and communication with parents like that.
I so have my mom's rage. I don't want to say it's biologically inherited. It's definitely ingrained in me on how to deal with stress and control-issues.
It's not inherited. It's an unhealthy way of regulating negative emotions. You were taught to behave like that in certain situations. Your brain knows that this is the way to regulate negative emotions. And you can replace this model, by teaching your brain to deal with these in a different manner. Try trauma-related therapy, with a good therapist (note that you cannot do it on your own). EMDR worked wonders for me. Good luck!
Load More Replies...Been there. As a child, I often felt like a sort of garbage bin for my parents. The scapegoat. They'd literally look for me just to yell and insult me, for no reason. And now they are wondering why I went little to no-contact with them.
They seem to be lucky that you didn't go totally NC with them.
Load More Replies...I've only recently realized that my mom's constantly moving goalposts for my behavior were actually because of her narcissism: telling me what I'd done wrong made her feel superior, so she constantly had to find something wrong with what I'd done. Including things like not sufficiently wringing out washcloths when I was too young to have the hand strength, or using a clean spoon from the drawer instead of the drying rack, because taking it from the drying rack would have saved her the energy of putting it away. Constant criticism.
When a parent hits a child, that becomes the standard for behavior. Not just, "hitting is ok", but worse: " if I'm not getting hit for this behavior then it must be ok".
I've seen this too many times, especially in public, and using the most foul language . It usually comes from people who are walking advertisements for eugenics.
Trapping a child in a car as you smoke. Add into the mix the child has chronic bronchitis. Chronic bronchitis is a pulmonary disease, not a cold. No child should have this. Commenting for a friend.
Born to smokers, raised by smokers. Severe asthmatic for 65 years, in and out of ICUs and ERs. I'm now on a medication that is working, but I'll never get back those years of being miserably sick and ruined occasions my "caregivers" inflicted on me.
I wouldn't be so sick physically if my mom hadn't smoked WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT!
Load More Replies...I had a friend at school who had cystic fibrosis, his mum smoked like a chimney around him. She said she wasn’t giving up for anyone. He died when he was 17 😪
I wish parents were charged with child abuse, cruelty and cause of their kid's death. Why isn't smoking around kids considered abuse yet?
Load More Replies...In England it's illegal to smoke in a vehicle if anyone under 18 years old is present.
I initially started this comment saying that it's illegal in my state, MA, to smoke with kids in the car, but I was wrong. When I did some research I realized that it's only illegal in one state rn, Delaware. In MA, we have been trying since 2013 to make this a law, but it has still yet to pass. I'm hoping other MA residents that smoke, are also under the impression that it is illegal to smoke with kids in the car and they don't bother looking into it. Hopefully this will be passed asap, I don't understand why anyone would oppose this bill, it helps kids and also increases revenue for those who are caught smoking with their kids in the car. Seems like a no brainer to me. 🤦♀️🤷♀️
Load More Replies...This is now illegal in Canada. I still see it occasionally. I don't know how some smoking parents, and some non-smokers, think it's hilarious and acceptable to subject kids to cigarettes when it's been a major cause of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and respiratory tract infections in kids and babies. Why is that not a problem for these parents to have their kids go through that when it doesn't have to be that way? Does the smoke clouding up the neurons in their brain that controls rationality and common sense?
Yes. My dad started smoking st the age of eight. It was only when he dropped from 175 to 138 (pounds) and ended up in the hospital with a tumor in his lung that he wished he never picked up the habit. You know what? So do I.
Load More Replies...My parents both smoked from their late teens to their early 60's, so the first 29 yrs of my life. They finally quit because I got pregnant and I told them I wouldn't let smoke around the baby. I'm so proud of them, they quit using Nicroet gum, only thing available at the time and only one strength. They cut the pieces into 1/2 then 1/4. I do have chronic asthma and COPD. But some of that I have to blame myself because the majority of my co-workers smoked so if I wanted interaction I had to be around the smoke. It's funny because both my brother and SIL smoked and when they came to visit, my Dad complained, to me, that they stank. Had to break it to him that when he and Mom smoked my family would all change clothes and sometimes shower after being at their house. He was shocked.
My older sibling actually died from an asthma attack when he was very young, which he got because my father always smoked around us in the car and at home. As for the rest of us, myself and another sibling have asthma and my non-smoking mother has COPD. And Dad is still smoking.
My dad smoked a pipe (and I'll be honest, I still love the smell of pipe tobacco - unsmoked tobacco, that is) and my mom smoked. She even briefly smoked while pregnant with me. (I was a surprise, so it took her a while to figure out I was there. 😄) My dad stopped smoking by the time I was 5 or so, but my mom smoked up until her death. However, neither one smoked in the car and always went outside to have their nicotine fix. But that didn't stop me being exposed to smoke from my relatives, friends parents, and the general population since I grew up while smoking was still allowed in restaurants and other indoor spaces - even the tail end of when smoking was allowed on airplanes. Meaning now I'm hypersensitive to the smell - I know when my neighbors are smoking a building away - and almost allergic to cigarette smoke as my throat closes up and I can barely breathe. Luckily I've escaped any serious lung/health issues.
Oh, don't get us started the tobacco companies and their fake "studies" showing that smoking was harmless.
Load More Replies...My grandparents raised me until I was 11. Grampa chainsmoked unfiltered Camels in the car, in the apartment, in restaurants, etc. Somehow I didn't start having asthma issues until my early 30's, and only in the summer.
Not having open lines of communication, where your children feel they can't talk to you about their day, concerns at school, or what's on their mind, might indicate a need to work on the relationship.
My mom died when I was a kid and my dad made it very clear that he wasn't interested in dealing with my issues. When I was a teenager, he got offended that I wouldn't come to him for anything, but every time I tried he would get annoyed or even mad. But I'm still the bad guy for not wanting to talk to him about anything.
My dad’s favorite reply when any of us starts a sentence: “I don’t wanna hear that; I’m not interested in that s**t.” I’d love to say it back to him now that he can’t smack me as he’s 93 and I’d knock him to the floor from which he couldn’t get up, but I can’t be in the same room with him. Nor can anyone else: he’s alone while waiting to die.
As well as saying the door is open, but once the kid uses that opportunity you shame them for what they have to tell you.
Yup. My dad wonders why my sibling and I don’t talk to him as adults. This is partly why.
My dad didn't want to have anything to do with us kids until we could walk, talk, and be sensible. He never changed a diaper, etc It was my mom who we all went to when we needed to talk, and she frequently told us that she'd hear anything we wanted to say, good, bad, and ugly, and she'd never stop loving us, no matter what. My mom died in 2011 and I really don't want anything to do with the rest of the family. My dad wonders why I don't talk to him more - I wonder why I should at all. Honestly - and I think this makes me a sociopath - but I'm not sure I even love any of them. The thought of one of my cats dying makes me sadder than the thought of my dad or siblings kicking the bucket. 🤷
My mother always said that I could always come to her whenever I had a problem or wanted to talk about something, then when I did she would scream at me, "There's other people worse off than you, you know."
This one was huge for us! Coming from a disfuncional household with a father with ISSUES and a mother who'd freak out if a pin hit the floor before she was ready, my brother and I only confided in each other and helped each other out as best we could. Parental guidance would've been good, but this is the best we could do.
Oh try bringing a problem to the chronically anxious mother. You leave with two problems; the one you had, and now having to calm her down because she's so unable to cope. Here's an idea, if you're not mentally strong enough to handle your own life don't take on the responsibility of children - signed the children of anxious girls (girls, because women are adults).
assuming, of course, that the child *wants* to talk to you about it at all. this usually isnt the case.
My mom would complain that I didn't trust her but anytime I tried to open up she would interrupt, get extremely anxious and frustated at any minor inconvenience and overall gave really bad advice.
Parents (usually moms) that self identify as “crunchy/silky/scrunchy/almond/whateverthef**k moms”. Parents that post their kids all over online on the same pages they post their OF links and photos and videos of themselves half naked. Parents who tell everyone their kid is neurodivergent as an excuse for their behavior, especially if they’ve never actually been tested. Family vloggers. Parents who exploit their disabled children for money/attention. Parents who post videos of their kids throwing a fit or getting hurt because they think it’s funny. Parents of adult children who no longer speak to them.
The tantrum filming. I can't even imagine what kind of damage those kids grow up with when their negative emotions have only ever been met with ridicule.
Reminds me of those autism moms that film their autistic child being sensorily overwhelmed (usually a meltdown) and post it online for “awareness”
Load More Replies...Parents really need to stop self-diagnosing their kids and actually get them assessed. It's no joke having a child with delays and disabilities. It's also not something the kid may want publicly announced all the time, because they may not want that label to be the first thing people identify them as being all about. It does get into their heads that's what they are, and may feel like they don't have to, or can't, grow to their full potential. When they know their behaviour is being excused as a part of their disorder/disability trait, they may never work on themselves. This is coddling the disability/disorder, and it's a doing a disservice to every aspect of their life and well-being.
Those parents don't love their children. Think they are property!
I get what you're saying. But I think people find it distasteful putting your kid's disability in the spotlight to be used as an example to shame someone on their worse behaviour.
Load More Replies...Fetal-alcohol syndrome. When you see it, you know. If you don't know, Google right now. Had a classmate in grade school with it. I was walking through the forest, minding my own business, when a family walked past me going the other way. The father was covered in tattoos and looked older than he should. He had a cigarette hanging out of his cap. The mother was platinum blond wearing all black stretch fabric and a polished face mask of pale looking makeup. They club. And I don't fault them for their lifestyles or priorities. The mother was pushing a stroller with a child; it was a paved trail. The father was just BITCHING about anything and everything - I've never heard so much bitching in a forest, of all places. It's how I knew they were there - I heard him before I saw him. They had a little boy in tow - probably 7-8. My problem with them all was that when we both came around the bend, when they saw me as I saw them, THE FIRST THING this child just out of diapers did, was shout, "HEY! F**K YOU! HEY! HEY! F**K YOU! F**K YOU!" - over, and over again, flipping me the double bird. The father was indifferent, and the mother was hoping to ignore the whole thing. I looked the kid in the eyes and said, "Your parents must be so proud of you." And I carried on. I met up with an old friend. He and I go back to diapers. I haven't seen him in 15 years and we got together for his birthday. He invited some other friends out, too. So we were having a drink when his friends showed up. They had a son. He was 3-4. This was 11pm on a Saturday, in a bar. The child had deep bags under his eyes. They ordered him caffeinated Cola, and poured it into a sippy cup for him. He complained he was tired, they told him to sleep in the booth, which is impossible in a bar at 11pm on a Saturday. Frankly, I had lost my appetite, as it were, to this, and endeavored to speed the night along for the child's sake. Children bear the burden of their bad parents. You look how they behave and that tells you everything you need to know. You look at their outbursts, their scars, their fears, their coping mechanisms.
That poor child, in a bar, just wanting to sleep.. it breaks my heart to hear things like that..
I'm 100% sure that, if my maternal grandparents hadn't kept & raised me until I was 11, I would have been that child.
Load More Replies...I was once waiting to cross the road at a pedestrian crossing when a woman with about 12 kids under 10 in tow, with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth and the ash falling onto the head of her baby in the stroller she was pushing approached. One of the kids, a boy of about 3, ran across the road without looking and she caterwauled "Oi! I told you to wait for the green man you little c*nt!" All of her children are doomed.
This is awful and so sad. I'm really hoping that you're exaggerating when said that this loser had 12 kids, under the age of 10, but unfortunately it's likely the case. All these innocent kids born to s****y parents needs to end. Fr one of the few things in this world, that actually should be required one to be licensed, to have children and it's not. If I want to travel to another country, I literally have to go thru so much paperwork and bs just to get a passport, a booklet with my Pic in it. Yet ppl can pop out as many human beings as they want, with no one checking into you or your past ever, but I cant travel to another country. Sorry for the poor analogy but I'm sure you get the point I'm trying to make.
Load More Replies...What you should have done is report that friend of a friend to child protective services because that's child abuse.
I went to school with a kid that was born with FAS in the ‘90s. He had a learning disability. Had the characteristic looks otherwise he was a nice kid. He got bullied a lot in middle school and probably a bit in high school. It was sucky. Fortunately towards the end of high school many our class and upperclassmen wouldn’t put up with it and would put the bullies in their place.
This post has nothing to do with fetal alcohol syndrome and where do they allow children in bars.
Sheltering children from uncomfortable feelings.
You have to let your kids learn to process and handle those feelings. Don't assume something is too hard for them to understand, I promise they already know something is happening/wrong, so help them understand it.
This also goes for punishments too. Nobody likes to make their kid mad or cry. It's not fun grounding kids for a messy room, not getting chores done, or lying but they need those life skills. You've only got a set amount of time to teach them to be good, thoughtful, respectful humans.
My mom ALWAYS talked to us about what we'd done before any punishment was handed out. Sometimes you have a good reason for what you did
I very vividly remember getting sent to my room without knowing what i did.
Load More Replies...You don't punish your kid, you discipline them. Punishment is "payback" for doing something wrong, while discipline is making sure that the kids has to deal with the natural consequences of their actions. The point is to teach kids that what they did is wrong and has consequences, not to teach them that what they did made you mad and you are retaliating.
It also doesn't work when you never give your child consequences or discipline we're they're younger and THEN try to do it when they're teenagers.
Hiding reality from children harms them!!! Children are smarter than their parents!
If you don’t have the bad feelings, you don’t appreciate the good feelings
No, grounding kids for a messy room, not doing chores, or lying will only teach them to become better liars, and to resent you. And, as an adult, they'll be less likely to be functional: if you've only ever done 'good' things because your parents told you to, how will you function when they're not there to tell you what to do? How would you ever learn any self motivation?
Agree and disagree. If parents are overusing punishments and being too strict, your point stands. However, I've encountered way too many people that don't understand that actions (or lack thereof) have consequences and instead of learning that at home, they learn it by losing jobs and facing legal repercussions. There has to be a balance.
Load More Replies...Very strong words to say that someone is a terrible person if they don't ground their kids. No, it doesn't say so in the text, but the BP title does.
Trying to be your child’s friend and not setting structure or expectations or disciplining them.
This grown up part is so much harder than when they were younger. But I love it! And grandbabies!
Load More Replies...i'm a teenager and i consider my mom to be one of my friends, if not my best friend. however, shes also a good parent and has rules and boundaries for me. i think it's possible to both be friends with your kid and be a good parent
I'd go father and say a parent needs to be A friend to be a good parent. If a child does not trust their parent to understand, to listen, and to help without judgement, a parent is crippled in their ability to help them. And I order to foster that trust you have to be A friend to them. Someone who listens, who cares, and offers support.
Load More Replies...A parent can be a playmate on those rainy days, playing tea party, video games together, board games, talking about school and stuff like that. That's not considered being a friend to your kid. That's just spending time with them as parents. You could also take the time to teach them to bake, do some minor house repairs, sew, do safe chemistry experiments with them, teach them how to clean a bathroom properly. That's also spending time with your kids while being a parent. When they're adults, you can relate more with them, hang out with them as much as they want, or give them as much as space they need. That's showing them healthy boundaries. You don't need to try to be their friend to have a great relationship with your kids.
Your child will probably have dozens of friends over the years. Chances are they will have just one or two parents. Try to be the best parent you can be not the best friend.
Being a good parent requires you to be their friend. They need to be able to trust you, to reach out to you if they are struggling.
Load More Replies...Discipline is necessary for a functioning person in this messed up society
I always made it perfectly clear to my kids that "I am your parent, NOT your friend. You'll always have friends, but you only get one Mom".
If they hit their children.
My dad only hit me one time on the top of my head when I was 13 because repeatedly messed up a simple math problem at homework it didn't hurt but I still cried because he never did that before or after.I told my Mum when she came home home and my Dad got yelled at by her. (It's btw illegal to hit your children in my country)
all it teaches children is that you hit people to get your own way. I hope those parents get hit by their bosses if they mess up at work.
Discipline and abuse are different! Spankings help along with explaining what was done wrong and how not to do it again!
Our parents never hit us They didn't need to. They knew where all our buttons were.
Studies from the University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan who researched 150,000 children over a 50-year period show that spanking is linked to mental health problems, aggression, antisocial behavior, cognitive difficulties, low self-esteem, and substance abuse – and no positive outcomes. Also: https://www.developmentalscience.com/blog/2022/2/10/hitting-children-leads-to-trauma-not-better-behavior
Load More Replies...Everything. If you can't see that you're part of the problem. See my above reply. It applies to you as well
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When they expect gratitude for food, shelter and the bare minimum they provided as they had too.
I think it's good to teach gratitude for the simple things (there are people who don't have those) but it's wrong to weaponize it
I try to teach my children that they are privileged in having a home, food, clothes and extras. But just to make them see that these things are not a given. I don't want gratitude from them, just an appreciation that they are pretty well off.
Load More Replies...It's good to teach kids to say please and thank you. Food isn't magically put in the kitchen, the house isn't just a given and clothing doesn't magically appear in their drawers and closet. Just like teaching kids the value of money, it's important they understand that they are still fortunate they have the bare basics because not everyone has that, and that they have parents who provide that for them. It's basic manners. But it shouldn't come with guilt, threats and shame.
Or when they withhold basic necessities as a punishment, i.e. food, shelter, bathing
My parents never gave me an allowance and every one else who i knew did so i approached my SAHM about feeling like what i did warranted an allowance. She had depression but at the time i didn't get that so from my perspective everyday i vacuumed our quite large home, did dishes, cooked, cleaned all the bathrooms every week, made her breakfast if my dad was working, walked the dogs, groomed the dogs, cleaned out the fridge, did laundry and did the trash-- and it was just expected. "you think you should get an allowance for doing chores-- hold on... let's see how much you cost me-- I've spent x on your portion of food, if you were renting your room would be y... so how about we subtract what you think you're owed-- then let's factor in that you've been getting these for free your whole life, not to mention the manhours spent on you when you needed constant help with everything, all the chores you made us do-- then let's add how you were enrolled in dance in grade 1--" etc.-_-
If people decide to have children, they have be prepared to accept full responsibility for caring and raising the child .
Not knowing anything about your child's life. Best friends, favorite things, favorite teacher, what they like or don't like to eat. Not having an interest in them as individuals. Not allowing them to be individuals.
Yes. Helicopter parenting is a serious problem these days. I'll never forget being called and chewed out by the parent of one of my COLLEGE STUDENTS because his kid missed too many classes and it lowered his grade... Not only does it not teach kids to stand up for themselves and make their own good decisions; it destroys their sense of control of their life, AND their self-esteem because their parents think they can't handle anything on their own.
Load More Replies...lol I am very much in my daughter's life but she changes her interests so quickly, gets into new stuff every day, and is into anime with titles I can't ever remember the names of. But I at least try. I know enough, but it can be tough to keep up.
Not knowing what grade your child is in. I've had parents come up to me at Parents Evening and ask for their child's class. When I ask what class the child is in, not only don't they know but they go, "I think she's in grade 6..." THINK!
Sometimes it's for the better. At least you can enjoy your interests without the added shame.
Load More Replies...When I was a teen my dad complained about me never reaching out to him. I did, constantly. I just sort of gave up bc I didn't see a point. Later that day he said "I know you well," I looked him in the eye and asked him what my favorite color was. He didn't even bother trying to guess, just got huffy.
Why become a parent if you don't take an interest in the child's life ?
I love my parents, and have always had a good relationship with them, but i am glad they never were nosey about knowing those things. haha
Child : scream
parent : scream louder.
Child knows they can't scream cuz it will result in far worse when nobody is looking. My parents are pieces of shìt.
Depends on the situation. My son is on the autism spectrum, ADHD, and sensory perception disorder. When he's overwhelmed to the point of screaming nothing but a single louder scream (his name) will get him to focus on me so I can then talk him down.
Ok, my kid also has developmental disabilities that has affected her mannerisms, but at the end of the day she was still a kid, with kid tendencies that needed to be reined in. Also, this narrowed example of "My kid is on the spectrum and has all these other disorders" is so over-used that it overshadows the original context of the issues these posts pertain to, which is ordinary kid behaviour and blatant lack of, or overly-forceful, parenting, and don't have to do with neuron-divergence. You also cannot fault people for not knowing what's going on in your life. No one is thinking about it that deeply, and no one is really thinking that long and hard about you and your kid for the rest of the day afterwards. All they'll remember is listening to the racket while trying to think about what they've missed on their grocery list.
Load More Replies...I have a niece that would scream for no reason. Very high pitched, immediate headache, SIL... Oh honey don't scream. There is nothing wrong with my niece she wanted to scream Told my husband if either of our kids did that I would tell them if you do that again I'm gonna pop you in the mouth. It only took 1 time and no more screaming, and no I didn't hit him hard it was a light pop. There is a difference in spanking and abuse, I know because I was abused. Tell a 6 yo to wash a cast iron pan and you can't get it clean, get whipped for it. One time when it was hot wire shorts and knee socks to school because there were bloody stripes on my legs from a switch. I always said nobody would ever hit my kids with a belt or switch or be abused by us and they weren't. You can mess with me to a certain extent but you mess with my money or my KIDS God help you because I'm coming at with you everything I can.
Allowing children to scream and fit hurts the child! Teach self control!!!
Not showing up for your kids. As someone who's worked up to 3 Jobs at one time I've never missed a concert, sporting event or birthday. There are of course circumstances that can't be bypassed but if you miss more than you attend it's a you problem.
That being said, some schools really need to make an effort to make events more "working parents friendly". Especially now just before the summer holidays there is a ton of conferences, get-togethers, sponsored runs, sports competitions and whatnot, I can't take time off for each and I just wish they would move some of it to the later afternoon or weekend.
The problem we had with schools was *they* would plan meetings, events etc, but only tell parents 2-7 days before the event. They didn't get the memo that people have lives, and not everyone can take time off in the middle of the day, and not everyone is available in the evenings.
Load More Replies...It's sad watching children look for their grown up and seeing the upset on their face when they can't see them
THIS, my hub's dad missed MULTIPLE birthdays because it aligned with a motorcycle rally he wanted to go to-- he didn't even offer for his son to go with him-- just not there. Multiple Christmases, multiple easters. Graduation. He didn't even come to our actual wedding (due to 'vid we had a tiny one and a larger one a couple years later) because he wanted to go to the trailer-- his own son's wedding 15min from his trailer. He never taught hub to tie a tie, how to cook, home maintenance or landscaping skills. Just bought him new videogames from time to time. His parents weren't divorced and he also had another brother his dad was equally not around for.
I raised my sister's daughter, despite her "I was always there too". No, you weren't. I was. From birth to this day, I've been my niece's mom and her constant rock. We all still live together, but my sister either sleeps all day, or she manages to struggle through a part time job, and THEN comes home to sleep all day...unless, of course, she's drunk & drugged out, then it's karaoke parties in her room all night, while the rest of us who actually WORK (me, niece, niece's boyfriend) keep telling her to STFU so we can sleep. My niece is MY baby & I'll be there until the day I die.
not really solely a you problem. you do realize everyones job is different, and everyone is different from you? if i had a choice between attending my childs school function and losing my job, or keeping my job... im keeping my job.
No. "Normal" parents maybe. Military parents, it is a lot harder. Especially, when are thousands of miles away!
When a parent compares their child to another child such as their friends, cousins, etc. Never giving the child any praise. Speaking to them as if they are a child when they are a teenager. Not paying attention while they are playing or acknowledging when they come up to you wanting to show you something. Replying “later” to everything they ask you to do. When they want something such as to see their friends, and instead of supporting them, you never allow them any social freedom. The list goes on.
Say "later" constantly enough and eventually it will become "never".
In life, you are compared with others every day. Kids should aspire to continually be better at whatever they do. When you get a job, your performance is compared to others. When you're in school, your grades compare you to others. There's nothing wrong with having the child compare themselves to others, it just shouldn't be an obsession and the comparison should be reasonable. You can't compare a child who's 4 feet tall to a 6 foot tall child if they're on the same basket ball team.
I'm telling on myself from the past here (bad parents can become better), but putting off therapies your child needs and refusing to set boundaries because you feel bad about a situation that happened. This allows for bratty kids who think the world revolves around them and setting boundaries later with the child is Hell. My kiddo is recovering and doing so much better now, but it took a huge wake up call and it shouldn't have. I can't stress this enough: parent your kids! They will be so much better for it in the long run. No amount of guilt should stop you from teaching your children boundaries and how to respect them.
Your kid seeking out other adults to confide in when it comes to difficult topics, because they're scared of how you'll react.
they got to talk to adults? I had no one to talk to cause my parents had ears everywhere
yeah right! finally someone sensible! how can you think they won't tell on you? how can you think you can trust them??? why even taaaalk?
Load More Replies...I didn’t bother talking to anyone about how bad I felt or was treated as it would always get back to my parents. Then it was worse.
Don't talk about your problems to the adults from your church. In my experience they immediately go tattling to the parents, raising all sorts of problems at home
Yea my parents don't know some s**t a person i met twicebis aware of.. if he remembers lol
As someone who works wit elementary aged kids, being too controlling about everything, not just with your kid but trying to control what your kid is around when you aren’t, there are several parents who have tried to get books taken out of our school library, freaked out that teachers put on movies during indoor recess (we are a catholic private school owned by the Archdiocese there are so many restrictions) or even that we give out cookies for after school snack. There are two young kids who have already learned how to lie to their mom, they are in third and first grade so they can have the fun treat we give out instead of just getting an apple while everyone else gets popsicles.
When you have parents like that you either become a ball of anxiety or a really good liar very early.
Taking things from kids because of YOUR OPINIONS is evil and fascist behavior!!! Mind your own children and stay away from mine! MY kids READ whatever THEY want!!! MY kids eat what they are given and appreciate it!
Parents who let their home go to s**t. I get it, kids are messy, lives are busy, and your home will never be perfect. But some scattered toys, piles of schoolwork, and a few drop zones around the place isn’t what I’m talking about. I’m talking about moldy food everywhere, hoarding, not cleaning up after animals, and houses full of rodents and roaches attracted to the biohazard of a mess.
I personally think there is a significant difference between being messy and being dirty/filthy. To me, messy is toys and things, cluttered and all over, not in their proper place, put away. Dirty is left over food left out or on dishes that are overflowing from the sink, along with trash. If the home reeks or has bugs or rodents due to the biohazard of an environment they are keeping, that is a filthy, dirty place to me. It's normal to have some mess around, but it should not be on the verge of condemnation.
I've seen and said this before but it bears repeating -- 'clean enough to be healthy and messy enough to be home'.
Piles of boxes and junk in your kitchen and on top of your stove. I've reported my neighbour a couple times. She cleaned up once after the first call to CPS, and then went back to hoarding garbage again. I've reported her again but now she just keeps her curtains closed more often at night.
This is not exclusive to having kids. But every child should be taught cleaning/picking up after themselves. Met to many people (mostly men) who can't look after themselves and maintain a household.
My wife and I both work. I have a full time job, two businesses, and a small farm (dogs, sheep, goats, chicken, fish, etc.). Along with a kiddo who I am with whenever school gets out or there is a break. My house is a wreck, no food left around (unless my son manages to leave a half eaten snack for me to find later), no animal mess around except for the occasional hidden dog tumbleweed, etc. Anyway it is what it is. I could organize more or spend time with my family as much as I can.
I'm the youngest of 13 kids with an widowed Mom that worked full time so our house was the normal type of messy. Between all of us kids and our friends there were times you couldn't move around without stepping over a kid, dog or cat. We all had chores, but when Dad died there was 7 of us in a 3 bdrm, 1 1/2 bath house as well as several teenage kids (our friends) that Mom took in with REALLY bad home lives. It was absolute chaos most days but Mom never complained and always had an open door policy.
Playing favourites when all kids should be equally loved (not my experience but my boyfriend's).
I'm an only child, my mother's favorite child was anyone else's child. She adopted me but wanted a boy and got a girl. Took it out on me
Only child yet somehow the Meg of the family (family guy ref)-- I grew up deeply envious of my cousin because my mom never shut up about him and he and I were close in age. My mom always constantly told me that she never wanted a girly girl, she wanted a jock and I very much wasn't... but my cousin got a full ride for bball, she never stopped bringing it up to everyone else-- how great he was, how incredible. Even my younger cousins now-- i'm grown, married, i call my mom no reply most of the time-- but my little cousins if they have a game, drops everything to attend. She literally chose to go be moral support to a friend's friend's daughter's competition over coming for my ONLY wedding dress shopping appointment that I booked around her schedule. Even with nothing else going-- her dogs were more important than I was. But hey, I guess we'll see how this all works out for her when she's in her old age-- kidding of course, I'm not vindictive-- but imagine if I were.
Load More Replies...Playing favorites is a common tactic of emotionally abusive people. It keeps family members competing for their attention and approval. When parents do this, it can lead to life-long tensions between siblings, so not only do you have a stressful childhood, but you can end up deprived of healthy sibling relationships as an adult. Not that I'm bitter or anything.
I always tell people that having a favourite isn't a problem but showing favouritism definitely is.
I was hated by my parents and particularly by my mother. My elder sisters always were given things and I just didn’t get them. My aunts and uncles and family were the same with giving presents attention etc. I’m still trying to work out why they behaved the way they did.
My sister's the favorite child. She can get away with so much. Luckily, I'm my grandma's favorite of all her grandkids.
My dad made clear that his ex-stepchildren were his favorite children. As my ex-stepmother had done, they don’t talk to him anymore, either.
Parents who cave-in to their kids demands and let the kid control them.
They become self entitled Karens and Kevins whose only goal in life is to talk to your manager
Fortunately , many managers now come equipped with a backbone, and resist argumentative customers, even sometimes persuading them to take their attitude elsewhere . Cherish these bosses...
Load More Replies...Heard a ten year old boy cuss his grandmother out for not buying him candy. Threatened to hit her. Stupid woman just stood there and gave in. I would have slapped his face off talking to me like that!!!
Pressuring constantly his/her own children, displaying them like trophies or accomplishments instead of human beings.
Demanding kids over-exert themselves, play through injuries and have total disregard for their safety just so the team wins, to suck up to the coach and/or get them into the Olympics.
This is good but they could also just put "they" instead of "his/her"
Smoking a cigarette while holding your baby.
Letting them run around a restaurant.
And then getting mad when someone in a car yells at the parent(s) to pick up their child.
Load More Replies...Yup. I saw something like this at a local restaurant last night until I realized the kids were going to the nearest bathroom. I honestly thought about asking the adults what they were thinking letting their kids run around barely supervised until I realized why the kids were running! I’m also grateful the kids didn’t get hurt.
When your kids do the conga around your corpse at your funeral.
Why would this be concerning? It's a celebration of release from their abusers and captors.
Maybe because the topic is "things that signal bad parenting?"
Load More Replies...I've stated before that when we went to my grandmother's (Dad's Mom) funeral to quote my Mom "I want to make sure the b***h is dead because if anyone can pull a Lazarus it's that old hag" which should tell you how hated she was. That woman completely f****d up my Dad and played a HUGE role in my Grandpa's suicide and was an absolutely twisted human being that f****d up so many lives, so saying that was a happy day for me and Mom would be an understatement.
There are people who want to celebrate life and have their family members have fun at a funeral. I wonder now if they get confused with abusive parents
Load More Replies...I kinda feel like we should start doing all funerals like that though. Stop being miserable about the loss and celebrate their life instead, all that they've achieved, all the memories that you've made with them. Yes, it would still be a bittersweet celebration but it's better then focusing solely on the bad
Shouldn't there be a pair of shoes sticking out, or are they already on the feet of one of the family?
Giving your kid everything he wants.
Good parents give their children everything they *need*. There's a world of difference.
Anyone who calls them self a boy mom.
For anyone who needs a description what that is: A Boy Mom is an Instagram and TikTok trend of women who specifically wanted a boy, are now absolutely spoiling that kid with no boundaries at all, and have weirdly parasitic, boyfriend-like relationships to their own sons if they are older
Eh, only when they let it become their entire personality. Girl moms/girl dads do this too.
I had no idea about this until reading the explanation below. It's sick and so are these mothers. Psychological help is required.
“We don’t say no in this household.” The idea and sentiment behind that phrase I can understand but the way the majority of parents put this in practice is just always saying, “Yes.” I’ve been in numerous 504 meetings where the the behavioral issue can be mitigated by boundaries.
A 504 is basically an accommodation that a parent demands for their kid because either the kid doesn't qualify for Special Ed services, or they don't want to "label" their kid and refuse to allow the kid to be tested. And then demand accommodations.
Load More Replies...You dont love your child or at least dont care about them later in life.
Yeah, that`s like my ex boss. Had to babysit her toddler and the kid liked to bite, pull and women`s ponytails while sneaking behind theyr backs- you name it. And the mother was just like : suck it up, we don`t say no in this household.
Ugh when your friends "discuss" with the children but really it's just the kid getting their way every time by yelling, pouting, or tantrum.
The theory behind it is to give context. Is the sky green. Hmmm... Do you think it looks green? What other things are green? What other things look like the same color as the sky?
Load More Replies...Parents with fat kids who continue to feed them garbage.
I read that some people live in “Food Deserts” where the only options are garbage food and extreme fatness. 🤷♂️
This is unfair judgment. Obesity is not always linked to over-eating or eating junk all the time. you could be witnessing a kid's first treat in many months, for all you know.
its when i see 6-10yo being pushed in a stroller on top of the kid being heavy/fat. it like no wonder your kid is fat, why do you do this? i have 2 kids my oldest was walking everywhere with me by 2, my youngest is autistic i had to push him till he was 4 and i bitched so much about it, to myself/husband, not to the child, cuz i was worried he'd be spoiled or get fat. my husband and i are big people we don't want that for our kids. we both had bad diets as children and no amount of healthy eating and exercise will get rid of it all but we try. we dont keep any junk food in the house or buy it
I was elated when my kid was walking well enough to ditch the stroller. Those were tough pushing through snow and bringing onto the bus.
Load More Replies...But but it's the child's fault im fat because I stupidly ate for two adults while pregnant! Bull c**p on this one!!
And , hem, 'overweight' people who use powered chairs to avoid walking. I concede that many people in powered chairs need that help, and can't walk without them; but there is a possibility that some people might have avoided needing full assistance if they'd followed Doctor's advice a little earlier on. Please don't downvote me to Hades for saying this; ask a Doctor first, and if the Doctor says I'm wrong, then by all means downvote me.
Ever think that maybe their obesity is a result of a long term injury that effects their mobility, and that needing a powered chair cart or just any wheelchair is due to their injury? I've seen morbidly obese people walking around with no mobility aid. So, it's not because of their extra weight.
Load More Replies...Not leading by example.
Every adult leads by example whether they realize it or not. Try to be a good example.
I think every parent is guilty of that. Parents are only human. We're not perfect.
Your kids at grandmas more than with you because you’re out having a “good time” every weekend!
This is OK- shared custody with grandparent if grandparent is willing. Essential with young parents who may otherwise resent having a child. A million times better than the parents partying all weekend with them NOT being sent to Grandma's.
Yeah I’d have to say this wildly varies depending on each case, and how voluntarily the grandparents are involved
Load More Replies...I have a feeling the few comments do not have the experience with this one. Unfortunately, this is rampant in lower income communities and gross. The grandparents are the responsibility and the parents are still going out. S**t, my in-laws basically had 8 more kids than the two they had because the SIL was never set boundaries. She's in jail now again, if that gives more of the picture.
this could be a culture thing. not the 'having a good time' thing but the grandparent raise the grandchild while the parent works is common in some areas
This article and this post are not talking at all about what's rational.
Load More Replies...We spent a lot of time with grandma when we were kids. But mom and dad did too because they were right there with us. Grandma was doubly pleased.
I'm an "influencer" and my kids are part of my channel.
I know someone who has a survivalist/camping/travel YouTube and his kids appear every now and again. Mostly on traveling vacation videos. Hes a bit bordering with how often they do show up but it's not enoigh to be red flag territory.
Yup. I follow an influencer who has a comedy channel and his kids show up on his Instagram only with the understanding and consent of the entire family, kids included.
Load More Replies...Influencers are lazy people who refuse to work and know nothing about what thay are talking about! The fakest people on the planer and equally useless!!
Having kids while you are actively doing hard d***s.
I thought that was how you got kids in the first place...
Load More Replies...Why are d**g addicts raising kids? Why is it social workers don't go after them, when all it takes is a teenager to get pregnant and they're all over her like vultures over a carcass just because of her age? I don't understand the priority.
Huge diffrence between using 'hard d***s' and being an addict...
Load More Replies...People who have family blogs.
Not monitoring your kids screen time.
The key is providing them alternatives so interesting and involving that the screen time will limit itself.
Never mind privacy, why would any human being need privacy? a child should be treated as a sub-human farm animal, to be monitored, policed, and ordered around. /s
I was thinking it had more to do with making sure your kid has time away from the screen.
Load More Replies...A child flinching.
I get the point but if theres a very loud sound kids who hsvent been abused will flinch because its an instinctive reflex.
Some may also flinch at quieter noises due to sensory/sensitivity issues
Load More Replies...my son flinches. hes a non-verbal autistic and doesn't like things by his face. i've seen him flinch due to his hair. it depends on context.
Could also be that kid was abused in the past and got put with new parents and just still has trauma.
Children and adults flinch over litttle things also. This needs context
When your kids jump in the air and click their heels when finding out you dead.
Me, when my mother committed s.u.i.c.i.d.e. I was not sad, but relieved because I was finally free. I don't miss her
Be on first name basis with all the officers at the juvenile detention facility.
Wait there is a case where this is okay. If they are either A a social worker or b an officer as well.
Okay there is a third and that is if they were once in the juvenile detention facility and they're now in a better place in life. Who knows. Maybe they have a nice job. Had some kids and are now very very happy.
Load More Replies...I may add parents who force their kids to follow their steps, despite kids protests: same interests, same sports same college, same career. Then live their lives through them: choose their partners, orquestate their wedding, when to have kids, name traditions, how to raise them.
Moms who treat their son like he is their god, king, love of their life, only child ever born. I don't ever see dads do this with daughters, but it must be out there. Seems like every single mom with an only child who is a boy, though...
Not all moms with sons are like this. Just the ones who make it their whole personality. And yes "girl dad's" exist as well. I've seen it and it's creepy.
Load More Replies...I would add: putting your relationship with your partner ahead of your children, especially when it becomes apparent that your partner is an abuser to your children. It happens far too often, ie. it happens at all.
The eardrum shattering screen most often heard in for some reason these children's play should be reserved for one occasion: danger, immediate danger to the child or some one around them. These children have not been taught that when you scream that eardrum shattering piercing scream, people run over. Now it's considered just part of normal play. What kind of r++++++d s++t is that?
I suffered from a cerebral bleeding. My wife told me years later that there was a period my personality was different. Up to a level where I terrified my wife and kids three or four times. I was not aware at the time and I'm not sure I could have prevented it either. But even now -15 years later- it still brings tears to my eyes that it happened. I'm so ashamed I scarred the ones that supported me the most and did literally anything for me at my lowest point in life. They don't hold it against me, they don't blame me, but that was when I was the worst parent/husband, and I have no clue as how to ever make up for that.
You probably don't need to, you were ill at the time. It was through no fault of your own whatsoever. They know that. They can look back at that time and recognise that it wasn't the real YOU and it was brought about entirely due to your brain injury. I know I'm just a stranger on the internet, but I'd find it easy to forgive a parent for that. They may think 'that was a scary time' but it can be rationalised. You must have been scared when you found out what was wrong. It was a bad time for you all.
Load More Replies...being jealous of your kids doing better than you did rather than being happy for them. While at the same time taking credit for their success like it was somehow because of them even when they were not there.
Moms that are so concerned and controlling about their daughter's weight and diet that they end up giving them eating disorders.
You want children? Go ahead, but acknowledge that you are creating a living entity with no regard to what that living entity wants, just to fill a void in your own life. Don't want kids, or indifferent? Take steps to prevent them. Think you have a logical reason to have kids? You don't
I may add parents who force their kids to follow their steps, despite kids protests: same interests, same sports same college, same career. Then live their lives through them: choose their partners, orquestate their wedding, when to have kids, name traditions, how to raise them.
Moms who treat their son like he is their god, king, love of their life, only child ever born. I don't ever see dads do this with daughters, but it must be out there. Seems like every single mom with an only child who is a boy, though...
Not all moms with sons are like this. Just the ones who make it their whole personality. And yes "girl dad's" exist as well. I've seen it and it's creepy.
Load More Replies...I would add: putting your relationship with your partner ahead of your children, especially when it becomes apparent that your partner is an abuser to your children. It happens far too often, ie. it happens at all.
The eardrum shattering screen most often heard in for some reason these children's play should be reserved for one occasion: danger, immediate danger to the child or some one around them. These children have not been taught that when you scream that eardrum shattering piercing scream, people run over. Now it's considered just part of normal play. What kind of r++++++d s++t is that?
I suffered from a cerebral bleeding. My wife told me years later that there was a period my personality was different. Up to a level where I terrified my wife and kids three or four times. I was not aware at the time and I'm not sure I could have prevented it either. But even now -15 years later- it still brings tears to my eyes that it happened. I'm so ashamed I scarred the ones that supported me the most and did literally anything for me at my lowest point in life. They don't hold it against me, they don't blame me, but that was when I was the worst parent/husband, and I have no clue as how to ever make up for that.
You probably don't need to, you were ill at the time. It was through no fault of your own whatsoever. They know that. They can look back at that time and recognise that it wasn't the real YOU and it was brought about entirely due to your brain injury. I know I'm just a stranger on the internet, but I'd find it easy to forgive a parent for that. They may think 'that was a scary time' but it can be rationalised. You must have been scared when you found out what was wrong. It was a bad time for you all.
Load More Replies...being jealous of your kids doing better than you did rather than being happy for them. While at the same time taking credit for their success like it was somehow because of them even when they were not there.
Moms that are so concerned and controlling about their daughter's weight and diet that they end up giving them eating disorders.
You want children? Go ahead, but acknowledge that you are creating a living entity with no regard to what that living entity wants, just to fill a void in your own life. Don't want kids, or indifferent? Take steps to prevent them. Think you have a logical reason to have kids? You don't
