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When it comes to designing things for city living, whether it’s the infrastructure or even little details—like park benches or public washrooms, you expect they will be made with people in mind. But it turns out that’s often far from the case.

Recently, Sahra Sulaiman, the communities editor for Streetsblog L.A., shared an illuminating thread about soap dispensers in LAX bathrooms. “The worker struggling to refill soaps in the LAX bathroom said she just wished architects and designers consulted with the workers that had to maintain the spaces about whether their form would actually be functional,” she wrote in a tweet amassing 126k likes.

Soon it became clear that Sahra is not the only one frustrated by how nonfunctionally public spaces are sometimes designed. More people joined the thread to share their own observations and experiences, so dear designers and architects, please take notes!

Image credits: sahrasulaiman

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah the neverending ponytail and bun struggle is real... my SO always tells me I look like the Bendneck Lady when I drive lol

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Urban design is concerned with the arrangement, appearance and function of our suburbs, towns and cities. It is both a process and an outcome of creating localities in which people live, engage with each other, and engage with the physical place around them in the modern world.

According to the United Nations (U.N.), 68% of the world’s population will live in urban areas by 2050, compared with 2% at the beginning of the 19th century, 30% in 1950 and 55% in 2018. The current urbanization is represented in hard-to-believe figures. The world’s largest city, Tokyo, which had a population of roughly 37 million in 2020, is expected to be overtaken in 2028 by New Delhi, the capital of India.

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Victor Trejo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, in Japan, bathrooms have a sort of ledge where you can place your stuff while using the urinals. There are also hooks to hang your umbrella or bags.

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Brian Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because that would be using common sense! Apparently this too is a waning commodity!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There shouldn't have been a fight because it shouldn't have been an "if". The discussion should have started from "where do we put the disposal?"

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But you don’t have to look at metropolises to realize how much and how fast our environment is changing. Pick just about any city, the one that you live in right now, and it will seem both familiar and new at the same time. So today designers and urban planners face incredible challenges—to make sure the public spaces, infrastructure, and resources cater to the people who live there.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those are indeed the worst, and seem to be popular with "sleek" contemporary designs. A huge sink with the spout reaching 1" past the edge so you have to press your hands against the side of the basin to access the water.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My one experience with what I now take to be a purse hook was when they were installed on the face of the bar just where your knee would find them when sitting on the stool.

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There are many ways to approach urban development that promote healthy living and longevity through a variety of design practices. Areas called “Blue Zones” are one of them. Dan Buettner, the author of the concept who wrote about for National Geographic, found that these communities had lower incidents of cancer and heart disease, fewer cases of dementia and Alzheimer’s disease, a higher percentage of the population in their 90s and 100s, and were generally happier.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In general things are designed with the worst way for handicap people. Urban architects and engineers should live a month in a wheelchair or with a stroller before they do things. For example the metro at my parents city is """adapted""" for us, they put a beautiful sticker and cheered of how amazing they are. The metros are taller than the platforms and it leaves a small step. Small enough that a walking person wont notice but bit enough that my disabilities scotter cannot get there...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BP taught me that those gaps in the stalls i an American thing. Sooo happy we dont have those

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According to Joe Pobiner, Planning and Urban Design expert and advisor, urban design that follows the concept of Blue Zones includes: walkable environments to reduce the need for cars; increased vertical density and mixed-use diversity to encourage walking; a mix of housing options to encourage a multi-generational population; a mix of development types beyond residential and office spaces; local gathering places, parks, and plazas; locally owned farm-to-table restaurants; community gardens and rooftop gardens, and so on.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wasteful and disgusting. Flushing sends up particles into the air and can spread across the bathroom so you breathe in the aerosolized waste or the potentially harmful bacteria/viruses from stool, urine, vomit...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bring a roll of blue painters tape and put a piece over the sensor while you clean then move it to the next toilet when you finish that one. It will keep it from flushing

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, we got a new delivery ramp years back, so we do not need to use the public entrance anymore. Turns out we use the public entrance since them anyways, because the ramp is highly unsafe and horrible to work with. The architect is still mad at us, he think, it was a great idea.

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Pobiner argues that today, walkability and access to green spaces are top selling points. “Buyers want neighborhoods that offer new architecture, land uses, and technology—areas that create 'intelligent' density conducive to walking and biking, and that are less costly and more sustainable,” he explains.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my bf who is a chef also hates sinks that are to small for a very large pot and/or too far away from the stove so that you have to carry the big, full and therefor heavy pot to the stove. it's something he hates in his professional kitchen and in our ymall privat one LOL

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Brian Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can't hang it on the hook at the top of the door if it has one - it can be reached by a determined thief. And who wants to put it on the floor

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to get a glob of soap on my hands and let a little girl swipe it off because the soap dispensers were impossible for her to reach. This was at a ski resort, with ski schools and everything. Main lodge at the bottom of the mountain

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, place where I used to work had floor to ceiling glass walls on conference rooms. Then they had to add curtains because you know, sometimes you might be sharing something you can't announce to the whole company. Also it is a distraction when you are in a meeting in a glass cube and you see people outside the cube passing by.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And how about designing parking lots in northern climates that snow plows can actually maneuver around

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A Brand High School (1991) Had A Chemistry Lab With An Emergency Shower But NO Floor Drain--Contaminated Water Everywhere

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Arthur Waite
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My High-School built a new Chemistry classroom - no desks, but work-tables with a sink in the middle, and a row of fume-hoods along one wall, for drawing away chemical dangers. Good plan, but somebody installed the fans to blow down instead of sucking up..... a bad first day!

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We’ll be getting a new school shortly. We’ve all been consulted and completely ignored. I’ve not met a member of staff yet that isn’t fuming at the plans.

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Pamela Blue
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's infuriating. It happens SO.MANY.TIMES. Even with public works. They have a public "discussion meeting," listen to what the public have to say, and then go ahead and do whatever it was they had planned anyway. It's all just lip service. It honestly makes my blood boil!

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It kind of bugs me when people complain about electricians because my husband is an electrician, but he is a really friendly and considerate one. He usually asks where people want outlets, explains to people they will probably want more outlets down the road, and let's them know the cost up front (as much as he can) so they can make a decision. He also spent the last weekend texting/talking on the phone (for free) with a client, who wanted to do some of the prep work himself to lower costs, to make sure he did the work right and it wouldn't have to be redone.

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Jonathan West
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Electricians aren't the ones who decide where outlets go. They just install em where the drawing says.

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Keisha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many years ago my husband and I built a gorgeous brand new home. We had the absolute best builder. Before he did anything he had me come over and show him where I wanted things and how he could make things so that it was functional. He even noticed we were above average height and asked if we thought we would prefer raised cabinets and a taller shower and longer than normal tub. He mocked it up and we were shocked at the difference. He also threw in a few things even we didn't know we wanted them. One of my favorites was the electrical outlets in the floor with decorative covers so they can be concealed when not in use. Every builder should be so good at their jobs.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find this inspirational.. I had a general contractor come to do an estimate, on a triplex, half demo done- rehab, before I decide if I want to make an offer on the property. The dude was totally unprofessional didn't write anything down for me, just made some comments as if I didn't have a clue... Little did he know I have a demo company and I've done multiple on my own, and I come fully equipped with tools and knowledge... He quoted me some crazy numbers with no justification, I was just very much a naysayer. Because apparently women can't have nice nails and know construction??! I was so turned off by yet another man in the industry, I'm even more determined to get my general contractors license and be the kind of builder that you had and treat people the way you were treated!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once had to fit out a computing lab in a new school - had only 4x power outlets. We had 34x computers, 6x printers, 2x scanners, several routers + various servers etc. We actually needed 50+ power points. Cost a fortune to install new circuits through inadequate ducts, etc.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also the parent pick up and drop off areas. What a nightmare

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Shannon Carman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of those were built with the intention of children riding the bus and not everybody feeling like they needed to drive their kid to school.... But now we've got bus driver shortages it's like a double-edged sword.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS!! A school I worked in a couple of years ago had keyboard lessons for my class every week. Every keyboard needed a mains plug. Myself, the teacher and the other TA had to use 4 6-way strips to get all the keyboards plugged in, it was an absolute health and safety nightmare, especially in a very cramped classroom. In the class I work in now, we haven't anywhere near enough outlets to plug in laptops when the kids need to use them (all of them need to be plugged in as they are old and the batteries no longer hold enough charge), resulting again in triphazards everywhere.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My school has outlets right under the sinks, and water sprays everywhere out of those sinks.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

oh god. my old primary school was made for 400 students when we needed space for 1000. also it's mostly made of glass. in AUSTRALIA. with NO AIRCON. saying the "breeze from the still river next to us was enough". b***h. aussie summers are brutal

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Maddie Joy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to a school that designed the science closet with a safety shower. Great! The problem was the safety shower was right next to where the teachers were supposed to keep hazardous chemicals for chemistry experiments... Including solid sodium... Which explodes if it comes in contact with water...

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Dani Pret
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They scheduled the swimming lesson before the school pictures, I was livid!

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Damien Alex
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I say be a**l about it and put double outlets every 4 feet on every walls in all room. I never heard anyone complain about there being too many outlets.

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Megan Duffy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Outlet placement (in the US) is code. Height and distance from openings isn't randomly decided.

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Zia Ray
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The house we lived in in Las Vegas had so many outlets. It was amazing 🤩. The kitchen had one every three feet or so. Wasn't a huge kitchen, but had at least six double outlets. One was even on the side of the island. And each bedroom had at least three throughout them. I think the bathrooms were the only rooms that only had one outlet each at the counters, except for the master as it had at least three since it was big. The hallway upstairs even has one double outlets at each end and the stairs had one on the middle landing

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

like there are plenty f outlets where i go but why are the ones on the floor so far from where the desks are placed sometimes? well that might be the teachers fault...

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At my school (I’m a freshman in highschool) in every single classroom they only have outlets on one side of the room. Smh

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Bring your own device! But we only have 4 outlets in the whole classroom and the teacher needs one of them." My school

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John Fisher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol we have tons of outlets hanging above us for computers. School boards are fine

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Brittany Copeland
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Especially now that so many schools use electronics instead of textbooks.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had a brand new facility built. They put the door to the janitor's utility closet inside the men's restroom. It made it hard for the female janitors who got to the plant at about the time the guys were taking their showers.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yeah. The Fire Marshall comes through every year to make sure the classrooms are up to code. After that, I got an email from my principal about finding a solution to the note about "an extension cord used on a permanent basis". It turned out to be a simple extension cord, which is a fire hazard -- but in my head, I thought about the three power strips that I have to use because the outlets are too far away from where I can put things -- or they're way under my desk, at the floor level.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They built a new high school in my town that was supposed to be ready to use my last year of school. The school board proceeded to set aside funds for bleachers for the football field before making sure they had enough *desks* for all the classrooms! Fortunately, somehow that decision got overruled and the poor football players had to spend the year with no bleachers for their audience. So tragic. /s

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The International school of the Hague, won an award for great architectural development of an existing building....The brilliant and super clever architect didn't think to add a staff room!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can never get power points in the right place. Furniture layouts get reviewed and agreed and when the staff come in they move it around. You can have too many power point, particularly in the floor where they are a hazard.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And who could imagine that the placing of the teacher's desk in relation to the board, electric sockets and/or window would be important?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My school just got a new science lab and the old one(s) were actually dangerous cause they were carpet, just think of the chemicals and glass that could get stuck in there! And the maintenance team (which I’m a part of) only carpet clean the 2 schools during the breaks!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Building codes change over time, so older schools probably don't have enough outlets. Back when they were built, they were quite adequate.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! I had a classroom where the only outlets were at the front of the class under the smart board so my desk, the pencil sharpener, Chrome book cart, EVERYTHING had to be cluttered at the front. It was so impractical

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The thing with this, is every teacher wants it different...you aren't the only teacher in the room over the years. What works for you doesn't work for all, and school board don't have money to run obscene amounts of power and data to accommodate every contingency.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You sound like you are one of the architects. When every member of staff is furious at how something is built, then the problem isn't the teachers, it's the designer.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At my McDonald's the stall is so short they had to cut a hole in the door so it could swing past the toilet when it opened. You had to stand beside the toilet to get in or out.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have repeatedly seen paper towel dispensers that you grab the towel to pull some out, but the damn thing is set so tight all you get is a very small handful of paper. Bloody useless.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And/or there's a 'vessel sink' like a honking great mixing bowl on a high counter. I've thought, I hope whoever designed this mess has to use this very bathroom when they're old and arthritic, and see how -they- like it.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve heard about lots of school libraries that were centrally placed in their buildings …fantastic! Centrally placed in an atrium … not fantastic. (No walls = no crowd control, no noise control, no stock control…)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At a school I taught in they put the drains in the center but sloped the floors UPWARDS towards the drains. So nothing would run in the drain unless the entire room was flooded with 1.5 inches of liquid. Our poor janitor was always fighting with the bathrooms and especially the ones for the little kids with bad aim. He'd have to hose the floor down and then sweep the pissy water towards the drains for a half hour to attempt to clean things.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Disney Had A Coaster W/ Animatronic Bigfoot That Is Static Now. Movement Cracked The Foundation And Can Only Be Braced. A Proper Fix Would Have To Dismantle The Entire Ride. Too Expensive They Said

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The art department at my college was connected to the architecture building, and they were the ugliest buildings on campus. The bathrooms were small and dark, the lighting was horrible throughout, the elevator would frequently stop a few inches above the floor and was slow as hell, which meant that more often than not, you were hauling projects and art supplies up a narrow flight of stairs. 😑

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also dishwashers! It's bad enough having to bend down to load one (really, can't the top be higher than the bench without causing armageddon?) but when you have to twist as well to reach the place where dirty dishes are stored before going in then that's just beyond irritating. Also, if I can't walk past it when the door is open I am not happy.

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