Times are constantly changing. I am technically part of Gen Z, but I feel like a dinosaur when I speak to tween Zoomers. Technological advancements have caused our world to evolve rapidly, and suddenly, things that were everyday occurrences 15 years ago have become extremely foreign to the youngest generations.
Redditors have recently been discussing some of the things that have become outdated in the last decade and a half, so we’ve gathered their most spot-on replies below. Enjoy scrolling through this list that might make you miss the early days of iPhones and hearing Justin Bieber’s “Baby” everywhere you went, and be sure to upvote the insights you agree with!
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Punctuation and grammar.
Seriously, it feels like even the basics have eluded a lot of folks today. I don't claim to be perfect, but I've struggled trying to translate what should be basic sentences lately.
I think this is correlated with the shortening of attention spans. People want to be able to type faster, and so punctuation is obsolete. I’m unlike most people my age in the way that I take the effort to use proper punctuation and grammar
It's also apparent that these people with their short attention spans don't have the capacity to take a moment to read what they've typed before tapping the Send/Post button.
Load More Replies...I keep seeing posts about the youngest gen feeling that puncuation is "aggressive". wth??
It is not. I will die on this hill. (I'm GenX and an editor by occupation, so....)
Load More Replies...Most of my students don't know the alphabet any more. Whatever for - the automatic word suggestion will take care of it for you. All you need is the first three letters. Try teaching them to work with a paper dictionary. Every year, it becomes more difficult to implement this. There is such strong resistance in them to accept its usefulness as a skill.
What is with the abbreviations? Why do I have look up what you're trying to say because you're too lazy to type it? I guess typewriting class went away with knowing cursive too.
And why is "abbreviation" a long word? Such a mystery.
Load More Replies...That and abbreviating everything to letters. Like what the hell does da and dh mean?
I think DH is dear husband. On Reddit at least. And DA....uhhh...district attorney? Haha. No, I don't know!!
Load More Replies...Has anyone else noticed this in news articles? So many of them are so poorly written and it seems to becoming more common. Basic facts are left out of nonsensical statements to the point it sometimes has me questioning my reading comprehension
It's the "whole language" movement. Just get your ideas down on paper - punctuation and grammar don't matter. WRONG.
I've noticed that over time TV personalities, newspapers, etc have taken "shortcuts" in speaking, writing and it has become acceptable. It makes me cringe everytime I hear someone speaking like a backwoods illiterate. Our slip shod school system is mostly to blame for a good portion of this. Sad.
I think I’m just becoming a grumpy old woman but social awareness. Like blocking the whole sidewalk, speakerphones in public, that kind of thing. It’s always been a problem but I feel like the pandemic stunted an entire generations social growth and they’re just oblivious to their effect on others in any given space. It’s stunningly annoying tbh.
Walk into them and then yell at them for not watching where they were going - problem solved.
At which point you end up in a video posted online terming you the irate A*****e who assaults strangers, and yells at them like a psychopath. Hmm.....seems like just a few posts above you were saying "most people go their whole lives without acting like that" So i guess you'd be happy to be shamed, blamed and ostracized, RIGHT?
Load More Replies...As someone who’s social growth was stunted, I feel this 😭 I’ve improved my spatial awareness, still working on the social stuff :/
Three of my pet hates:- 1. A group of two or more people stood having a chat right in a shop doorway, or on a corner or in the middle of the pavement, where nobody can properly get past. 2. People who block the entire shelf in the supermarket and take a thousand years to decide what they want after picking up and examining every single item. 3. People who stand so close to you in the supermarket checkout that they're almost cuddling you. Looking over my shoulder isn't going to make me go any faster. Personal space.
I ALWAYS say something if someone is standing to close to me in line, especially if it is a man. I have PTSD to I don't like people to close to me. I am nice about it the first time, but after that, I get passive aggressive. Works most of the time.
Load More Replies...Erh.... This happened before the pandemic... You can't blame the pandemic on everything and you can't blame bad behaviour on one generation solely
I've encountered (as have most of us) rude people of every generation, someimes elderly people are incredibly rude - I think they believe that no-one will call them out on it because they're old. I come as something of a surprise to them when I react to their rudeness I think. There are charming and polite young people, rude and entitled young people, the same for any age group you choose. Kids get a lot of undeserved criticism sometimes and older folk get tolerated because well, you know, respect your elders - even if they are rude and ignorant.
Load More Replies...Sadly, this has been a thing long before the pandemic. Blocking the aisle with a grocery cart. Shoving themselves in front of a queue. Standing in front of shorter people at an exhibit. Noisy talk at a movie. I could go on, but I think y'all get the gist.
Simple manners like being aware that other people exist, are not NPCs, and may want to get past you, not listen to your conversation/music, not partake of your secondhand vape, etc. is not a concept that was foreign even 10-15 years ago. Also, wanting people to have the bare minimum of respect for others in a shared space has nothing to do with racism or bigotry.
If someone doesn't get back to you right away, it's OK, they're not home.
Australia just brought in 'right to unplug' laws so you are allowed to ignore work calls and emails outside work hours, which is great, though I would ignore them anyway.
Load More Replies...I never answered the home phone either, but at least I could say I wasn't at home. You can't do that with a mobile phone, they don't believe that it's not joined to your ear.
The first conscious decision I did was to use flight mode. Off the clock at work: Flight mode iPhone. Working on my music production, play guitar, be enganged in something: Flight mode. I am not going to be interrupted all the time for whatever reasons. The important calls go to my landline. And very few people have that number.
I remember getting our first answering machine for our phone. That is all you need in most situations. Now cellphone users sometimes get upset that you don't answer immediately. I have a life. I'll get back to you when I want to.
Sometimes people would lose their cool in public, we just never knew about it because not everyone had a smartphone in their hands at all times. Now, one person's bad day can become a public spectacle that follows them for the rest of their lives.
One bad mistake can haunt you for the rest of your life. That’s what I don’t like about cancel culture. People aren’t static characters.
I briefly would watch the videos of people freaking out on planes until I realized that most of them were having mental illness episodes. The last thing you need when having a breakdown is having everyone in the world knowing about it. If they get banned from flying, that's okay with me. If they did something that actually required security or the police, that's okay with me. Do I feel comfortable sitting and watching their psychotic episode and patting myself on the back that I would never act that why? No, I do not. I downvote and exit any such post.
Load More Replies...Some woman in my neibourhood found it funny to record my meltdown when i found out my dad died. She posteted the video everywhere. Obvously not with the info i just got. It was horrible.
I'm so sorry, both for your incredible loss and the horrible behavior of that b***h.
Load More Replies...I just scrolled through another article on here about all the a$sholes on public transport, and yes, there looked to be some pretty disgusting behavior, but you don't know if that person laying on 3 seats was sick, or if someone was homeless, or struggling with mental illness - try empathy first
I wonder if the OP is one of those folks who has a public meltdown because they got barbecue sauce instead of honey for their McNuggets? Or perhaps feels entitled to skip a line at the coffee shop because they are running late. People who are caught screaming racist/exist etc epithets deserve to be exposed for what they are. Those who feel like they're above the people who are just trying to make a living in a retail or customer facing role and feel like it's OK to abuse them. To a person they claim that they were "having a bad day" when their antics are put on display. Don't act a fool in public.
I get what you're saying. I do. Most people don't have toddler sized tantrums, or resort to racists tirades. I've had plenty of bad days where no one would ever know because I don't take my bad mood out on other people. BUT--we don't always know what the entire story is. Like someone else said, they were having a meltdown over the news of their dad's death. There could be mental illness involved. Or, yeah, maybe they're just an a*****e. But the idea that we need to plaster them all over social media and shame them is toxic, awful, witch hunting behavior. We need to do better.
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Remembering phone number of friends and families. Even to this day I can still remember some of my friends number from over 15 years ago.
And just last week my best friend had to ask me what her boyfriends phone number is lmao
Why did she think you knew? Does she suspect some hanky panky?
Load More Replies...I can remember five. My local exchange was 825, and for local numbers you just dialed 5, and then the last four digits.
Load More Replies...Rotary phones! I saw a video of 2 teenage boys trying to dial a rotary phone. It made me laugh because they couldn't do it.
I can remember everybody's landlines numbers from when I was a kid, but I can't remember my own cellphone number.
I can remember my cell phone number because it ends in 0000
Load More Replies...Just having to remember things, period. A lot of people just don’t have to do it these days so they don’t because, “I can just look it up.” Not having to internalize, synthesize, and recall information is not necessarily a good thing.
I recently cancelled my late mother's landline number. I grew up in that house and have known the number for 55 years.
I can remember my grandmother’s phone number from 1955. But I’m still not sure about my own cell number. Or anyone else’s cell number. Makes me feel stupid. Lol
Paper maps and how to use them.
I used to visit client sites for work. I would plan my route on a paper map and write down the major turns and tuck the paper behind the sun visor so I could pop it down to see the next turn when I needed it. They weren't all in the UK either. I have memories of picking up a hire car in Sweden at about 10pm in the middle of winter and heading out into the dark, following road signs for Oslo and hoping that I found the right motorway junction for a little village before I landed up in Norway! I also found out why the car had studded tyres on the third day!
Before GPS, I would line up sticky notes with each turn along the base of the windshield. And carry maps in case I got off course and needed to figure out where I was.
Load More Replies...I remember saying when sat-nav first came out that in twenty years time few people would be able to read a map. Personally I think there's no substitute for a paper map. I've had many an unwanted adventure with sat-nav.
I was never good at reading paper maps, even though that's all we had growing up. I was so grateful when Map Quest came out - and then satellite directions. Up until that point I got lost all the time. :)
I admit, used to have the road atlases in my car... but you don't even need a paper map anymore ...if you know how to READ one you can use the map on your navigation system...zoom out and figure out where you are ...it is ultimately a map
I had many near car collisions when trying to read a map or written directions while driving. I mush prefer the GPS telling me when to turn.
I was the map reader whenever we would go on road trips, I loved doing it. I still know how to read a map.
I'm extremely well-versed H reading maps and I have a good sense of direction, but I have zero nostalgia for paper maps. Not being able to see the names of small streets, trying to figure out the scale to see if what looks like two blocks is 200m or 2km? Driving for three hours extra because you took a route that looked more direct but was entirely small backroads that looked bigger on the map? I do not miss that.
I'm a teacher and the kids think it is some mythological world where children leave the house, go on adventures, and return home before the streetlights go up.
Streetlights? All our moms just had voices that carried three blocks. And you always knew whose mom was calling.
I mean as a kid I thought that’s what the world was too. That’s just childhood
This is sad. I grew up in the Santa Cruz mountains (California), and I'd leave home in the morning with my little brother and our neighborhood friends (our "neighborhood" was made up of three houses on 30 acres or so) and tromp off into the woods for half the day. Then we'd come home and audiotape a "news broadcast" about our adventure, sew clothes and have fashion shows, play dress up outside, compose elaborate plays and then film them on our family camcorder, build forts in the woods, collect acorns to throw at intruders, hike between each others homes. The great news is that my 2 nephews (3 and 8) are growing up in the same house we grew up in. They do have a much larger tv than we had, and more screen time, but they also have access to all that wild outside wonder!
There are plenty of places still like that. My brother's family lives in a neighborhood where the kids are outside all day at one house or another. It's just like how we grew up. Even when they lived in a big city there were block parties where the kids all roamed together.
I'm 58 now and when I was a child the street I grew up on had maybe two cars parked along it. When I went back for a look a few years ago it was end to end with parked cars. We would only go home when it got dark.
How to hold a phone up to your ear and mouth rather than holding it in front of you to shout into the mic at the bottom, apparently.
One of these days when I'm subjected to someone using their phone on speaker in a public place, I'm going to be tempted to walk up and just join their conversation. If they're on speaker, it's open to the public, right?
I join in the conversation. "Dave hurry up, theses girls charge by the hour"
I made the gesture with my thumb toward by ear, my pointer, middle, and ring fingers curled toward by palm and my pinky extended towards my mouth. My 22 year old secretary had no idea what that gesture was......
I work with school children and some of them don't even know how to answer the phone in any other way. Why does everyone have to hear both ends of the conversation? It's so disrespectful both to people nearby and to the person on the other end of the line.
As a boomer I screwed up, once. In order to keep the charging port on my phone from collecting dust and debris which inhibits a good charge connection, I placed a section of tape between the cover and phone port. When I called someone, they could not hear me and "hung up". How the hell was I supposed to know that's where the mic is?.
We often call them "sandwich speakers"; it' looks like they are about to eat the phone...
The relationship between a cassette tape and a pencil ✏️.
That is the wrong kind of pencil. You need a six-sided pencil, not a round one.
I always used my finger. For me, Tapes usually messed up when popping them out of my cassette player in my car. I can still remember what it felt like and the imprint it made on my skin, ah those were the days lol
Me. I still do. My stereo system has tape decks, I have a lot of music on old tapes, so why bother buying it all over again?
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Cash... We were away for the weekend last year. Had an all day drinking session and at around 9pm went to a chippy.
I was served by a young lass, maybe 17 years old.
My order came to £13.40. To avoid a pocket full of change I gave the girl £23.40 to get a £10 note in return.
Well, it was like I had completely fried her brain. She just stood there staring at the money in her open hands for far too long.
I said "I just need a tenner change". Nope, it didn't help.
She just couldn't fathom what the hell was going on.
Eventually a her greasy gaffer reached over her shoulder, pressed the button on the till and pulled a tenner out.
This happens so much. Cashiers not understanding why you would give them say, $22 for a $12 purchase. They always want to hand the $2 back. No thank you. I'd like a $10 or (2) $5's. Sometimes they look completely befuddled but then decide to take a chance and put the numbers in the register. And then, a miracle happens! They get to see why I paid that way. I'm always mildly shocked. And then resigned to this is the way it is now.
Is that why? Omg this has happened to me but I just figure they're tired or having an off day!
Load More Replies...It's gotten much worse though. It used to be an exception. Now it's the almost the norm, especially in high-volume locations like fast food.
Load More Replies...Numeracy has really taken a nosedive since the advent of handheld calculators.
I'm extremely frustrated by the number of bars/restaurants in my area (SoCal) which are now "cashless payment only".
There's a convention I go to pretty much every year. When I started, the parking lots only took cash; now they only take cards. I suspect in another year or two, the lot attendants will be vanishing as well.
Load More Replies...Went into a bakers and bought a few things. The young girl said, oh........£3.75. I didn't know the prices but it didn't seem enough so I gave her a tenner. She grabbed a handful of change and handed it to me, there was nearly £9. I took some coins to make it up to a round £5 which I thought was about right and gave her a smile. I'm not sure she had any idea how to do any mental arithmetic.
No one knows how to make change and count it out without the register doing it for them anymore either. Not to mention count out their cash drawers. Even back in the day, I worked with a girl—-a college student—-who could regularly count the dimes in her cash drawer and come up with a total ending in 5.
This is not a new thing. New/young cashiers have long stumbled over this until they get it.
The issue is breaking through the mental barrier of thinking that it's "math", and understanding that you're sliding beads up and down on a mental abacus. I can't remember not being able to intuitively make change.
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Why the save button icon is a floppy disk
Edit since of people aren’t understanding my point: I didn’t say people were still using floppy disks 15 years ago, I meant that most people at least knew WHY the save icon was represented by a floppy disk. Many Gen Alpha kids seem to have no idea, which a what OP asked.
Yes “diskettes” came after but 1. They were still called floppy disks (I only ever heard people trying to sell them call them diskettes) and 2. They still had a floppy disk inside the hard cover.
Why do they call it a floppy disk? It's not floppy, it is a rigid square.
That's all well and good, but who here remembers the original, pre-PC floppy discs? 7-inch, 45rpm records on extra-thin vinyl (barely thick enough for the groove) that one had to place over a standard vinyl record to be able to play it. They were usually freebies, given away in teen magazines and suchlike.
Its predecessor, a much larger disk, was in fact floppy. It had no covering case.
Just call it the original flash drive. It was a portable storage device.
Can someone pls explain to me what a floppy disk is? 😭 I’ve heard the term before and have a vague idea of what it is but just realized I don’t really know what it does
You shouldn't bring your parents to a job interview.
Their parents should know better, even if they don't. There's absolutely no excuse for this. Even if a parent needs to drive them to the interview for whatever reason, the parent should know to wait in the car or at a nearby cafe or something. I flat-out blame this on the helicopter parent.
Yeah it is very funny how the generation of people who now fill the internet with nostalgic stuff (we used to run around outside all the time and everything was better back in the day) are the ones who raised a generation that needs someone holding their hand while they pee.
Load More Replies...I STRONGLY suspect that in most cases here, the fault lies with the parent rather than the child.
And please don't make them call the employer to follow up if you haven't heard anything for a few days. I don't care what a good, sweet boy or girl you've always been.
I had been doing odd jobs around my dad's office (for which i was paid) since i was 7 years old (taking out the trash, making coffee, sweeping and mopping) By the time i was 14, I alone and on a whim went into my local McDonalds, filled out an application, did the interview and got hired....all by myself! I do not understand how people in their early to mid 20's are having to take mommy along to hold their hand through a job interview.
I did the same with JCPenneys. Got my first high school job.
Load More Replies...I agree, if it's the parent being overbearing. If it's because the jobseeker has a disability or mental health issue that should be okay.
What kind of mental health issue would warrant a parent going to a job interview?
Load More Replies...Is this really a thing? I've seen it mentioned a few times before on BP.
Yes. Helicopter parents trying to barge their way into keeping control of their kid's life will absolutely force their way into their kid's job interviews and try to answer everything for them. ime the kid has nothing to do with the situation, the parents are forcing their way in and the kids are incredibly embarrassed by it.
Load More Replies...This happened to me when interviewing a girl to work in a penny arcade. The mother not only kept answering the questions but kept touching the girls hair.
That being constantly tracked, surveyed, and recorded isn’t good.
My ex-husband fitted CCTV for a living. We had cameras in every room of the house so he could spy on me. I also worked in a department store where he had fitted CCTV so at one point I was literally being watched 24/7.
Load More Replies...It's great when someone commits a crime. Makes identifying the criminal much easier.
Yes city streets for women are much safer with camera surveillance. We just don't want the cameras in our bedrooms or Christian Fascists telling us how they want to control our sex lives.
Load More Replies...In my country cameras have assisted to solve a lot of crimes, accidents, etc. In a democratic country only law violators are afraid of them.
Unfortunately those in power abuse it. My country is democratic yet the federal police abuse this power.
Load More Replies...Opting out is not something that can be justifiably demanded of someone who wishes to live a normal life. The surveillance and spying are infringements on the right to privacy. The people doing the indefensible are the ones who have to change their behavior, not the victims.
Load More Replies...It doesn't have to be wrong to be private. Also, what happens when what you believe is right is not the same as what the government believes? What if you're a woman in a US state with a 6 week limit on abortions and you have to travel out of state to get an abortion? Your period tracker and the CCTV of your mum dropping you off at the airport can be used as evidence against you.
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Needing to ring the doorbell at your friends’ houses to see if they’re home and if they wanna play outside.
What made me realise how much things had changed from when I was a kid was when my youngest daughter and I were walking home from school and she asked if I had play dates when I was her age. I replied, "No. I just went outside and played with whoever else was out there. If none of my friends were out playing I would go to there houses and ask if they were coming out." I think it is quite sad that you more or less have to make an appointment with other parents so that your kids can play together.
Sure, if they lived in my neighborhood. But my best friend lived a few miles away so I’d usually call the house to see if they were there first.
That phones are unnecessary when eating something.
If at a restaurant, everyone in the group puts their phone in the middle of the table. First one to pick up theirs before the meal is done picks up the tab.
Have a second secret phone to text one of your fellow diners repeatedly?
Load More Replies...You can leave it in your pocket, or the car. Anybody calling you can leave a text. It's not essential to be available 24/7 to your friend who wants to know about the dress she's going o wear to the party tomorrow. It's just rude to your dinner companions.
Work needs to get over itself. Every human being deserves some set hours when they are not available for work stuff.
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Remember having to develop film rolls at a photo lab. Instant photos are so convenient now!
You'd actually be conscious of someone trying to take photos and go out of your way to not ruin it for them
Load More Replies...It was kind of exciting to see if your photos had turned out well or not.
And sadness when you paid and found out the whole roll was overexposed .
Load More Replies...Nah, the world is just getting younger 😊. Polaroids are still around; though, they’re not as well made as their predecessors.
Load More Replies...My brother always thought he was being funny by giving bunny ears in pictures, did it as a kid and still does it 40 years later. Joke's on him, because the last pic I took was with my cellphone, the latest Samsung with photo editing capabilities... edited those bunny ears right out before he even saw the photo!
I used to waste so much film on terrible pics - because you couldn't see how they were going to come out.
Using film at a concert was exciting. You might have 96 shots available and you wanted to make them count.
Thinking. The ability to be bored. Context.
Now this one I agree with for Gen Alpha. My sister always complains so much when she’s bored, and expects us to always be able to entertain her. She’ll ask questions during shows or movies that could be answered by context or by waiting a few seconds to let the character explain themselves.
I grew up in the 80's and I was always able to play by myself alone. But my brother needed to constantly be entertained or he would whine about being bored. Personally I think it's because I was a book worm and had more imagination from reading all the time.
How old are you? But that doesn't matter, actually. "Find something to do or I will find something for you to do" was the standard answer when I was young.
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Downloading music off dodgy websites just so you could have a "cool" phone ringtone. Or burning CDs...
Library Genesis is the Napster version for ebooks.
Load More Replies...I still sometimes burn CDs to listen to things in my car. I don't like to mess with my phone while I'm driving.
I just burned a cd to the computer and loaded them as ringtones. Mum would never let us download anything- I still feel guilty if I stream something from dodgy websites, so I only do it if I can't find them anywhere else.
Millennials seem to really know this well, but kinda lost in Gen Z and younger: Troubleshooting your own computer. They don't even know how powerful the Task Manager is.
It may seem paradoxical but it actually makes sense that the younger generations can't trouble shoot computers. For us oldies, we had no choice, that was how we learnt and we shared that info - the younguns are taught 'do abc to get xyz' so that's what they do, they have no need/incentive to go and explore a programme or system
But they do have a need.....that's the point. I've been using computers since i was TWO, all the way back in 1985. If i wanted to do something on the computer, i had to figure it out, and yes sometimes that meant seeking out a more knowledgeable adult for guidance, but more often than not it was simply trial and error....screwing around with whatever i happened to be using at any given time.....to learn about what it could do. I was teaching myself CAD, photoshop and HTML at 11 years old, while computer classes in school were still "teaching" kids how to save and open files. I've seen 12 year olds who ignore the existence of a mouse and keyboard to smear their finger over the screen and proclaim "it's broken" before walking away. The incentive is curiosity, and a desire to learn.....they don't have that, because they have tiktok.
Load More Replies...Gen Z here, a lot of us are more competent with computers than most ppl think. People tend to clump us with gen alpha with tech stuff like this
yeah i find this very funny. Every person my age is very tech savvy but alot of older people are useless at using phones or computers other than the most simple things.
Load More Replies...Right. And learned to write an "autoexec.bat" and /or "config.sys" file because Winblows corrupted it (heaven forbid we should add a modem to our system) and the machine became useless.
Load More Replies...Apple ][ Monitor enters the room: Today we'll be talking about 6502 assembly language.
Sysinternals' Process Explorer has been my task manager replacement for years, even back when I had a work laptop. So much easier and more functional, and has continued to work, exactly the same, with no required updates, through multiple versions of Windows since the 2000s.
No, you just buy a new one, that sheet can't be fixed
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What the sound of a busy signal means.
Our phone would start wailing if it was left off the hook for too long.
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Looking at a TV guide. I remember getting out of the news paper every Sunday. Then searching through it to see what horror movies were playing on late night cable.
Remember when each programme had a number printed alongside it which you could type into a VCR to record it.
VCR+ it was great, as long as the stars were in perfect alignment, lol.
Load More Replies...Yeah that's right kids. We didn't have thousands of choices we had to pick something that was on TV or go to blockbuster.
In the US, if the wind was blowing the right direction or if you lived in a broadcasting city, yiu got CBS, NBC, ABC, MAYBE one or two non- network affiliated local stations, and starting in the 1960s you got your closest PBS station. That was it. All received through the antenna on the roof and the rabbit ears on your TV. So if weather conditions weren’t perfect, or you had a mountain blocking the signal, you were SOL for watching TV. Cable solved that by running the signal through a cable instead of the air, though you could unhook the cable box and still watch with your antenna if the cable went out—-which it did A LOT back then because the cables were above ground. Once they switched to burying them, cable wasn’t knocked out with every thunderstorm. Last bit of trivia; my first cable hookup (in Raleigh, NC in 1982) was the maximum: CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, a couple stations out of DC, plus WTBS from Atlanta, GA, which was still local to Atlanta back then and showed local Atlanta commercials. Later they added WGN from Chicago. What made it the maximum package was the addition on HBO, and only HBO. Of course, in 1982, HBO was the king of movie channels, so it was a good source of good recent movies. The bill for all that? $9.99/month. No junk channels, no Home Shopping Network, just the majors, a couple good stations from other cities, early TBS, and HBO. There was ALWAYS something on TV with that package.
Load More Replies...My mother in law was a hoarder and had piles of TV guides from many years piles on her stairs. She somehow though she could eventually sell them in a yard sale. She did not understand the logic that they were worthless because the schedules change every week.
Maybe, maybe not. There are collectors for that. I think it’s called ephemera, basically stuff that was disposable once it was no longer of use. I saved the TV guide from the week Charles and Diana got married, just to have a memento of getting up in the middle of the night to see the telecast of it.
Load More Replies...The Fall edition of The TV Guide was the most coveted reading material in our family. And my parents had a subscription to it.
I used to love looking at the TV Guide, but then all of the cable channels, and they couldn't fit it all into that little magazine.
I used to go through the TV guide at the beginning of the week, and program the VCRs (yes, multiple) for all the shows I wanted. As the tapes filled up it became something of a Tetris game figuring out what would fit on each tape without having unused capacity at the end. i.e. filling each tape with 8 hours of programs.
We still have the tv guide in my house. Admittedly, it's mostly my dad who uses it, but I do sometimes.
Telling time on an analog clock, apparently.
Admittedly I had this problem, but since I noticed it, I’ve had my Apple Watch face to an analog one to force myself to relearn how to read it lol
Some get confused as to why the third hand on a watch is called the second hand.
My neighborteen and her friends have no idea how to read analog clocks.
Load More Replies...I live in america and watch a lot of british shows, they say "half ten" and it took me a while to figure out how they said times. And I do prefer military time rather than the twelve hour clock used in typical american life.
Those clocks in school, where you watched it clunk to the next minute.
Privacy
Not posting every thought that comes into your head
Responsibility
Consequences for your actions
Dignity and self-respect
Community service
Respect and care for your neighbors.
consequences for your actions is a very big one. Kids bring guns to school: they should be charged and their parents charged for making the gun available to the kid. They've started charging the parents, but the kids don't realize that handcuffs and an escort by police are just the start of the consequences.
I'm pretty sure bringing any weapon to school is still going to be an automatic suspension and if it is a gun the police may also be involved.
Load More Replies...Every generation complains about how the newest generation does not understand responsibility or the consequences of their actions. Every generation is correct because people in their teens and twenties are stupid
I feel like these people just hate people who are younger and generalise this to all young people when its 2% of us
I agree! Previous generations have always complained about the lack of manners in the younger generations because it's the younger generations who change the expectations.
Load More Replies...My colleague asked students what they were listening to, then he checked out a Megan The Stallion song and complained how offensive it was.., yes they are the first generation to sing about sex, like Afternoon Delightful, or Squeeze Box, or a thousand other songs from YOUR generation were so wholesome
Load More Replies...Being incommunicado. Delicious not to be jarred out of your reverie by an annoying call. I hate the idea of being monitored and micromanaged 24/7/365. I can see city streets being monitored to curb crime. But I do not want eyes on me all the time. I don’t seek it and don’t want to live like that. Some things in life are personal and private, and should stay that way.
My observation of social media posts is that there is very little original content. Facebook people are just copying and pasting c**p they found on any internet entertainment or political website. Most of it is drivel. Much of the right wing political posts were made by Russian bots.
Doesn't lack of all these stem from no discipline? I mean the gentle parenting trying to be friends instead if parent /child is letting them get away with everything
Just like far too many people, you're confusing gentle parenting (which is actually encouraged and endorsed by the American Academy of Pediatrics) with permissive parenting, which is as harmful as authoritarian parenting and can be considered neglect.
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How anything was done without internet.
I lived it, and it still seems amazing that we survived without googling things. I love having answers at my fingertips.
Yeah it's great, assuming you can trust your source(s).
Load More Replies...That thought is scary enough but imagine the world trying to manage and recover from COVID without the internet.
At a slower pace, because we just had to wait. If you wanted to order something out of a catalog for Christmas or someone’s birthday (I got tired of shopping in the crowds at the mall and did this), you HAD to do it early. You filled out the order form, calculated the tax and shipping, and tallied up the cost by yourself, wrote out a check in that amount, and mailed the form and check in the envelope provided. Then you waited four to six weeks for your delivery. The reason you had to do this really early is if the order was delayed, or you had to return what you ordered nd exchange it for another size or another item—-and include a check for the difference if that item was more expensive. It’s the reason why I got my first credit card in 1985, because then I could make my order over the phone with the PERSON answering the order line. Still had to wait for it to ship, so still had to order early, but at least my order and check wouldn’t be delayed or lost in the mail and never get there. That’s how I got into the habit of buying gifts early. I still do that, so this year’s Christmas gifts are already bought, wrapped, and under the tree/ready to take with me to friends’ houses/ordered and on their way to the recipients, and I can sit back, relax, and actually enjoy the season while everyone else has to scramble at the last minute to get everything done.
Ah, in case of parents i am ever so grateful for google. I had endless fights with my dad as a child because he is a know-it-all and it is very frustrating if you know something for sure and he is saying thats not the truth until it ends with not talking with each other anymore for a while. Usually about complete irrelevant sht. I say something, he says its not true. About pretty much every statement i ever made. BUT NOW! I just google it and within 10 seconds i smash the truth in his face wich usually shuts him up. What a relief 🥳
I wish we could go back in time to life before the Internet. Everything was so much simpler when people thought and did things for themselves. Unfortunately we have allowed ourselves to be shoehorned into a world that can no longer function without it. Where I work when the Internet goes down the computers don't work, the phones don't work, the cctv doesn’t work, even the photocopier doesn’t work. What was once awe inspiring technology is a PITA now it governs almost every aspect of our lives.
And just how would you get your groceries during the last or next pandemic lockdown?
Load More Replies...I remember loooong before the internet. One night, a chemist friend who did quality control testing for Frito-Lay called me about two am. I answered and heard, "Who wrote Peter Pan?" "James M Barrie." That was the whole conversation. Her co-worker was very confused. I went right back to sleep. I miss having an almost famous memory. Not an eidetic memory, just very good at recalling everyday information. Now I say "I don't remember." all too often.
Handing in a paper in university on paper. I talk to university students now all they hand in all their papers online. Back when I was going in the mid 2000s everything was handed in on paper.
OMG, I have a story. Back in the 90s, I had a paper due. I was up all night (literally) finishing my reading. I finished the paper and tried to print it. I had one of those old X-pin printers. Wouldn't print. I called my Dad and somehow sent the paper to him to print. He printed it on his printer (with the paper with the feed holes on the sides that had to be ripped off). He printed it and ripped the edges off. He was retired by then. I drive up. He's waiting outside! I roll down my window and he throws the paper at me and I rush off. I get to the University and deposit the paper, JUST IN TIME. My Dad will always be my hero (for this and a thousand other reasons).
How about having to go to the library and get physical books, articles, papers, etc to write said paper?
I was getting ready to start my final research paper in psychology, but community colleges usually don't have much in the way of libraries. Nothing at the local public branch. Professor and Psy Beta advisor got me permission to go to the University of Houston library and not only do research but I took home 9 books to use. God, the internet would have made it so much easier, but it was still relatively new back in 1998. Then having to write your first one by hand in a special format, the number of times I had to reprint pages for minutes in punctuation and grammar or something got changed. And it took forever & pray you have enough ink! And all those heavy a$$ books I had to lug around.
I remember taking my college finals in blue books. (late 90's) We still had to type and print papers to hand them in of course.
Having an electronic typewriter that could erase previous letters was an amazing piece of technology in 1990. Then came the computers a few years later and it was obsolete. I still have mine. Graduation present. I typed all my college papers on it for two years.
I had computers to type papers on starting in '84. Apples that you could use in 2-hour increments in the u-grad library. You'd do more research while waiting to get back on.
Load More Replies...Or typed *and* double-spaced. I had teachers, instructors, and professors who made both a requirement for submissions.
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Pay phones AND having money for a call AND either knowing the number or having a little black book.
Similar: calling collect and blurting out “momcomepickmeup” instead of shelling out money for the call.
Pay phones still exist in some places in the US. They are especially common in areas with a population of Amish and/or old order Mennonites. Most of those groups don't have phones in their house of use cell phones. I have also seen pay phones in a few other places.
I can remember forgetting my cellphone when I left the office for lunch. We were locking the doors (March 2020) and would call the office for our coworkers (who were taking their lunch later) to open the door for us. I desperately searched for a pay phone, and there were none to be found. VERY stressful trying to get them to open the door so I could get back to my desk that day. If I could’ve used a pay phone, I could’ve called them to explain the situation. As it was, no pay phone meant I was SOL.
Or, as a soldier in Clarksville, Tennessee once showed a friend and me at the train station. He called home collect for a certain person - himself-and they asked if he wanted to leave a message. He said no that he was in Clarksville and he would be home soon. Then he got his dime back.
Shortly out of high school, I went on a cross country trip with my at-the-time boyfriend to visit with some of his family. He had a system set up with his mom to check in along the way, where if there was an emergency or he wanted to actually talk to her, he'd call collect using his real name. If it was just letting her know things are going fine, he'd use the name "Bernie" and she'd decline the call.
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Load More Replies...An ex friend freaked out once because I took a horizontal picture of him.
"Ex-friend" Did you ghost him because he didn't know about horizontal photos.
Load More Replies...Yes, but now there's Tik Tok which was designed specifically for people who could only manage to record vertically. So that's thing now.
Putting on your damn headphones.
Come on. In the late 70s to the 80s we had the boom box. You weren't above playing your music on one. You're just like your parents and don't like their music. There are far worse things in life.
Yes, there are worst things, and this is not a new problem, but it's still bloody annoying and the fact that everybody around you has smartphones with them all the time means that it only takes a tiny number of them doing this to be a problem. Back in the day, hardly anyone would routinely carry a boombox around with them. All else apart they weighed a ton.
Load More Replies...Again, in my experience this is more common in older people
Sorry but having empathy.
A lot of us are depressed with the current state of the world and just don’t care anymore.
I can't help feeling that it's by design. Depressed & apethetic people are easier to "manage".
Load More Replies...Honestly, I've been seeing the opposite. The younger generation is having more empathy than mine (Gen x). More acceptance for the LGBTQ, diversity, disability and people who are different in general.
Too bad they’re still too young or just starting out, and have little to no power in comparison to the older a******s who do. As an older person who also doesn’t have much power, I would welcome some fresh progressive faces and fresh progressive ideas taking over. I want us all to move forward, not stay stagnant or move backwards, which is what the old guard seem to prefer because it makes them even wealthier and more powerful. F**k them. What about the rest of us?
Load More Replies...Trump, Republicans, and MAGAs made having empathy look weak. Being rich and powerful is all that matters to them.
File systems.
A lot of college grads or college interns apparently have no idea how a file system works.
I suppose someone would have to teach them, the same way someone taught us when we were young..
Is one of the many life skills that aren't being taught in schools... like writing in longhair, like doing math on paper... balancing your bank account
Load More Replies...Paper files full stop. I have a filing cabinet in my home office as I still have a lot of stuff on paper, mainly as a backup.
There's no substitute for keeping important information on paper.
Load More Replies...I'm curious how it's going at a former employer. As a receiving clerk in a food processing plant, there were certificates that needed to be filed as well as bills of lading. The system I had, which was monthly, then quarterly, then annually, allowed us to find any hard copy with in 20 minutes during a "recall drill". 20 minutes because they were stored at the other end of a plant of 15 acres under roof.
I assumed from the title that were were talking about disk storage, and I did wonder just how many people ever really used to understand the computers file system. I assume from the picture, or is that wrong, as per BP rules?, that we're talking card index types of things. But that's not a change that happened in the last 15 years, more like the last 50
I agree, it could have been a computer reference, and I agree that students either don't know or don't bother to care where or how they file things. I'm a bit guilty of just leaving stuff in my downloads if I don't think I will need it. Students will do an entire assignment and then have no clue where it's gone to when they close the program and have an awful time finding it for submission.
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Having a dedicated device for listening to music (e.g. iPod, Walkman etc.).
The limitations of the radio is that all of FM and AM radio is now owned by a few media corporations. Those corporations have a narrow pop music playlist. They have a narrow conservative political news slant. People will never be exposed to an interesting wide range of music or political viewpoints. Those stations are probably why when conservative voters were asked before the election if they though Trump would be too much of an authoritarian leader if he got elected, the common response was "What's an Authoritarian?"
Load More Replies...Have a Saengaen AM/FM radio for biking and walking. Mostly tuned to NPR.
My Sansa Fuze is still hanging around somewhere. I liked the tactile wheel that actually rotated, the display was good quality, and its recording abilities were pretty good. Survived a trip through the washing machine. Probably still works, although the plasticized matte 'finish' on it is melting. Don't necessarily see an issue with just using my phone though.
I bought a cheap $30 Tracfone just for this purpose, it's perfect for it, doesn't require a sim card and it has a micro sd slot. After my dedicated MP3 player died, I decided to think outside of the box and just get a phone, as it was infinitely cheaper. Definitely recommend looking into a cheap pre-paid phone if you want/need a dedicated device. The biggest problem I had was finding a music app that met my requirements and at the very least had a low one time cost to disable ads.
That it wasn't even all that long ago when the vast majority of people just didn't have the internet or had really bad internet. My brother is old enough to remember when we had something like DSL but too young to know a time when we just didn't have internet at all and I don't think it computes at all in his brain lol.
The sound of dial-up internet connecting. Plugging a cable into the phone jack, and one connection point for the whole household. Often only one computer for the whole household, and that was the only internet-capable device.
I loved that sound. I likened it to the sound of a symphony orchestra tuning up or of a 707 revving for takeoff.
Load More Replies...I look at old movies and TV shows from before desktop computers became common. Man, they had ROOM on their desks! If they had a typewriter, it was on a smaller rolling side table of its own, so the desks had room for writing, and reading—-especially spreading papers out to compare them and both glean and compile information from all of them. I know that’s basically what computers do FOR us, but there’s something about being able to physically see every page and picture, and go back to it while still having your next page within view (full size too) that computers just can’t replicate, even with extra screens. Easier to keep your train of thought if you can keep everything in view (then gain, you can also physically pick up and take the page with you to compare).
Nobody had the internet when I grew up. It was only at the end of school that we haed a computer with a modem that could dial-up to get "bulletin boards". The internet started to become as "thing" when I was at uni. We had access to Janet and could send emails and play MUGs. When I started work, we had dial-up internet that would automatically dial the ISP to send and received emails. We could just about browse the web with Netscape Navigator and it was a very textual experience. Java 1.02 was released whilst I was in my first job.
How about before Netscape, like Web Crawler, wow I am old
Load More Replies...My youngest has always been a gamer. She was over the moon when we finally signed up to an internet package instead of dial up in the early 90's, but complained that it took her 3 days to download a game. I asked if she wanted to go back to dial up and she stopped complaining lol.
Kept after ATT for a bad DSL(rural) connection, until the woman who tried to help last time said "The company has NO intention of upgrading the DSL to fiber". Bye, Bye...was with them 30 years.
I still have really bad internet. Australia really stuffed up their National Broadband Network. I'm hoping the upgrades being done now will make a difference.
I was online in the '80s. My modem was 300 bits per second. Not gigabits, megabits or kilobits. Just bits.
I remember having a second phone line just for the dial up internet so it didn’t tie up the regular phone line.
Writing cursive (24 states still require it taught in school, though).
I went to a Montessori elementary school and they drilled into us from Pre-K that we only could write in cursive and you would get a trivial punishment if you wrote in print. Well, now my everyday hand-writing is cursive, and most people just think I'm some pretentious teen and I have to explain to them that I've just been doing this my whole life and writing in print is just slower and more inconvenient for me.
What is it like in a Montessori school if you don't mind me asking? I'm aware they teach subjects differently than in public school, which is what I attended, but I've never really known the main differences and never encountered anyone out and about who had gone to one to ask. You don't need to answer of course, I'm just curious!
Load More Replies...Just last week, my 8-year-old granddaughter signed her name on the whiteboard on the front of my refrigerator. In cursive! I was so pleased to see it that it's still there.
Yeah, i'm happy to let that trend die. Yes, some very limited number of people do have beautiful, legible handwriting. Most do not. Cursive just allows those with terrible handwriting to make it even more illegible.
I barely recall Penmanship being something on which students were graded, or at least noted.
Load More Replies...It's just joined up writing. It's not difficult, though in certain cases is a lot less legible than printing. The main difference is the speed at which it can be written.
It's difficult for me and I didn't appreciate being told my writing was 'wrong' with no constructive guidance and happily print everything including my signature.
Load More Replies...So do people who never learned cursive have a signature? Or does it just look like a child's block letters?
Maybe? I guess it depends on what you're signing. I haven't written a check in years and that was really the only time I was using my signature. I recall writing essays in cursive during high school and my hand always hurt. I still have a tiny writer's bump although I rarely write by hand - I guess it's permanent. It used to be huge. :)
Load More Replies...Writing in cursive is so utterly pointless. The only time you ever really needed it was to sign your name, but now you can just sign everything electronically because let's face it, who the F***k wants to try and decipher someone else's handwriting? Seriously, why are we still harping on about cursive?
I used to do estimates for carpets and would always do printed writing, for clarity. I did it so much my hand writing, over the years got progressively worse. Even now I sometimes do a Christmas or Birthday card and start printing before I've given it a thought, so then have to carry on.
15 years ago is 2009, folks. Floppy drives and cassettes were already a decade out of date.
But people who lived in 2009 knew what floppy drives and cassettes were.
And a lot of them had actually used them too.
Load More Replies...Not being snarky, but why? I still have a lot of cassettes from the 80s/90s, but I wouldn't buy music like that anymore. Just curious.
Load More Replies...I’m at the age to know vinyl, 8-tracks, cassettes, CDs, and MP3s (and beyond); the 5.75” floppy disks and the 3.5” “floppy” disks, as well as USB flash drives, etc. I may be old but at least I got to experience the evolution of digital media.
Counting change.
It's both hilarious AND frustrating watching my new hires struggle to count a $200 cash drawer.
They do okay with the bills, but when they get to the coins. . .
Don't know why you're being downvoted for having a correct equation. Here's an upvote for math.
Load More Replies...One of my younger coworkers is in awe of my ancient ability to "count backwards" when giving change. Like if something is $10.87 and they pay with a $20 bill, I count the three cents up to 90 cents, then know there's a dime to get to the next dollar amount, and that it's $9 to get to $20 and I can count it out without a calculator. So I could definitely see this being a thing.
This is a weird one. I grew up in Spain with the peseta. We changed to the Euro 25 year ago. In had know probable eyeing up my peseta change in the palm of my hand. The Euro change all look the same. I had to count a mountain of euro change this week and it was fiddly.
The cash register usually does the subtraction and addition for them. Even tells them the exact change. All they need is to know what the coins are worth and sometimes they don't know that - thanks, Venmo.
I get being confused at first, but they should be able to pick it up in just a few days. It's their job!
Customer is due $3.49 = 3 one-dollar bills,1 penny, and 2 quarters to make the change for the sale.
Computer literacy.
IT field, young employees are as bad as the older employees now.
Just look at the board who introduced "Millenium" a "medic chart thingy" in Sweden, in some Region, head of that introduction-board is really old. Nothing worked the first day, then they paused it. And how totally stopped it. Put people who knows data and computer on those things! And not waste 340 millions € for jacksjit! 🙀
Load More Replies...It makes sense. Most of Gen Z and Gen Alpha were raised with tablets and smartphones. Many didn't grow up with a PC or laptop in their home. I once was trying to teach a kid how to do some basic computer stuff, would've been 2022. I underestimated how basic we had to get. They barely knew how to use a mouse, didn't know how to make a new folder on a PC, blew my mind.
That’s really weird, because we always thought that the younger people, who lived their entire lives in the digital age, would know computers inside and out. But it seems that those of us who didn’t grow up with computers, and had to learn how to use them from the computer stone age (though technically the eighties were more like the computer middle ages) to the present, actually know more about computers than they do. Did not expect that.
...too many operating systems, no training....most of it's so automated, as well..
We all had to learn in the beginning. Mine was Win 3.1. I'm so very tired of MS trying to impose their "will" on us that Win 10 is my final go around with them. I'm very slowly learning Linux (Mint installs nicely on even my oldest laptop) as my final FU to MS. I get frustrated from time to time but then I remember trying to run Winblows in the beginning and I feel better about the experience. I'm nearly 70, if I can do it anyone can.
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Using a landline phone without getting weird looks. Kids today probably think it’s some ancient artifact.
I was at The International Spy Museum in DC (definitely go, if you can!) and in a room that was set up as a military office either during WWII or during the Cold War (I can't remember which), I saw a man explaining to his kids (under 10yrs old) how the rotary phone on the desk worked ("You put your finger into the hole for the number you want to dial, and spin the plastic ring around until your finger hits the metal piece, then remove your finger and let the dial spin back around; you do that for each digit in the phone number.")...they did not believe him.
Plastic ring? My best friend in grade school had a phone with a metal dial.
Load More Replies...Our "landline" home phone number isn't really lanline anymore. Which means, if our router screws up or electricity is down just at our house...no "landline" :(
I remember what a revelation it was when we switched from rotary to pushbutton phones.
How about being able to go to one of Ma Bell’s stores to pick out your OWN phone, instead of h ing to take whatever they gave you? That’s how I got my Mickey Mouse phone, which I wish I still had.
Load More Replies...There's a scene in "In & Out," a Tom Selleck film (1997) where a supermodel faced this task and gets frustrated.
I remember that scene, nd it was hilarious. I can’t seem to find the clip anywhere, including YouTube, or I would’ve posted the link for anyone who hasn’t seen it.
Load More Replies...They are certainly much more comfortable to hold and have a long conversation with them. Talking on a smartphone is like holding a block of wood to your head.
Where I live the poorer neighbourhoods still have some payphones (which are now free) so kids are more likely to be familiar with them.
Landlines, hell. Most kids under 25 don’t know what a rotary phone is or how to use it.
Its a slow trend but keyboard and mouse.
Kids these days growing up with touchscreens from the beginning, its ancient to them that we still use keyboard and mouse when the screen is right there infront of us.
My laptop has a touch screen, and touch pad. I use neither. I use a regular, good old mouse.
TBF though you're clearly not using it as a laptop if it's on the desk where you can use your good old-fashioned mouse. Remember some of the earlier laptop solutions, clip on trackballs and various other really awkward devices? The touchpad is far superior, but why oh why have they got rid of separate clickable buttons? Drives me mad when I accidentally move the cursor around with my wrists while I'm typing (yes, I always work out asap how to disable tapping to click on my own machines).
Load More Replies...I tried a touch screen for a short while. I found having to lift my arm up to touch the screen all day long gave me shoulder bursitis.
Touch still sucks for most everything. Yes, it's fine for navigating a smartphone or a tablet "mostly" but everything else is trash. I have two different mice that serve different purposes....a gaming/general purpose mouse (Naga trinity with swappable side button plates with 2,6 or 12 programmable buttons) and a trackball for CAD, photoshop and video editing. Even my ipad has a keyboard, mouse (and apple pencil).
my younger colleagues always leave caps lock on - they have no clue how to use the shift key.
For my laptop give me a touchpoint (Lenovo delll) any time. You can work without taking your hands of the keyboard, with a touch pad, when I type I'm clicking all over the screen. The touchpoint or trackpoint, is hard to get used to but oh, sweet heaven when you do.
I’ve seen this with the younger kids, one of the first things that really makes me feel old
File structures.
Because of cloud storage kids in high school have no idea how file organisation/folders/naming work, which leads to issue with searching what you need specifically on a computer (phones/tablets just throw file at you).
We had specific folders for GCSE coursework for them and would spend ages on explaining how to save in particular spot and a term later would hear MISS MY WORK DISAPPEARED to find it in their personal docs.
Part of this is tech related as well. NoSQL and other such technologies aggressively push non-hierarchical storage, to our great detriment.
I absolutely loathe Word (and Microsoft in general) for this. Open a previous version of a document and use "Save As..." to make a copy. The default location is randomly either the same folder (good) or My Documents (bad). You don't notice when you save it and then spend ages looking for the ruddy thing later. And with the amount of stuff on my coputer, I have a very good hierarchical filing system!
Back in Word Perfect, when you had 6 or 7 digits/letters for your file name...
My company W11 laptop defaults to the foorking cloud. I change it but everytime a something updates it defaults back same with slideshow on lock screen. The setting doesn't change. still points to photos in users/public but doesn't show the slideshow.
I would be ridiculously happy if I could just get them to stop folder in folder in folder in folder in folder, resulting in a zillion copies of one doc because it applied to different things. Instead of just tag the dang thing for multiple different things and set a friggin view. They get it when it comes to tables in excel but so very struggle to reapply that thought process.
So, a basic computer science course should be added to the junior high curriculum?
Every drive i have (outside of my system drive) has two folders in the root of the drive "downloads" and "Archive" Downloads is self explanatory, under Archive there is Movies, TV, Photo's, Game Iso, Apps, Ebooks, Music and Documents. Movies, TV, Ebooks and music are organized by Genre, Music, Ebooks and TV are organized by Show/Artist/Author (non-fiction ebooks are categorized by subject) Photos are organized by year, and then location, Documents are organized by year, and then subject. Everything is already living on Raid 6 (two redundancy drives) and having everything categorized makes backups much easier, as well as just generally making everything easier to find.
If you call it a folder instead of a directory you're part of the problem.
My kids are very confused about the order in which different technologies appeared. They don’t really understand that computers came long before the internet, and that forms of the internet came long before people think it did (like dial up AOL in 1989).
Edit: I kinda didn’t see the 15 year thing, sorry.
Told my son I was older than google and it blew his mind lol (Created September 1998)
Dial-ups used for research at work that had to be paid for by either the minute or the search: Dialog, Information America, Lexis/Nexis and Westlaw. Lexis/Nexis and Westlaw had their own dedicated terminals and the others connected using a PC client and modem with tymnet, xmodem, zmodem, etc. For home (and sometimes at work) we used CompuServe connected using the same modem protocols. My first Internet account in (I think) early 1993 was through Netcom, although there were a couple of earlier providers like Delphi and The World. Had to use Netcom with a UNIX shell. No GUI browsers. Good times, particularly when the connection dropped during a time-sensitive research session!
The internet was around in the 1960s. It's only the world wide web and http that came in in the 1990s.
Not really. The protocols appeared in the 60's. ARPANET appeared in the 70's, which was a precursor to the internet. The UK had JANET which linked universities in the UK and I used that in the early 90's which by then was gatewayed out onto the wider internet. We only just had dial--up internet when I was in my first job in '94. I briefly used it at home before moving to ADSL in about 2000. The WWW was invented in 1989, but there was very little on it back then. Most stuff on the internet was still bulletin boards and FTP sites.
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How to take a screenshot, instead of taking a photo of your screen with your phone.
I remember back in the olden days when you got your film camera out to take a screenshot! Taking a screenshot on Windows is easy, but saving it is not. I still get people sending me Word documents with screenshots in as that is all they can manage to "paste" them into.
Load More Replies...Depending on the computer that can be a whole lot more work, especially if it's of a video game, so if you don't need great quality a phone photo is better.
I still have the video of my son attempting to open a CD case. It took him about 45 seconds before he pried it open by pulling up the little tabs that are actually the hinges. He's pretty bright, but he was completely blown away by it.
I had the same experience with a family friend recently. She handed me a case so I could play a CD in her car and she had to show me how to open it 😭
Well the cellophane wrapper was the first thing that was hard to get off
Carrying around a flip phone and a digital camera to take pictures.
The last iPhone I could comfortably hold in my small hands was the 5. Now that they’re practically tablet size, I can’t hold them for long before my overly stretched out fingers start to hurt. Not all of us have huge bear paws, Apple. So how about offering your phones in different sizes, including smaller for those of us with small hands?
Load More Replies...I still carry a digital camera in my car. Only have a flip phone and it stays in my car. I go about my life uninterrupted by phone calls or text messages or incessant targeted advertising.
Streaming Netflix was still novel rather than DVD's via mail. Also, TiVo was a big thing for DVR.
I remember as a kid being excited to get the dvd’s in the mail in those red envelopes
I remember being in my thirties and being excited for it too, lol.
Load More Replies...I just cleaned my attic and came across my TiVo packed in the original box.
Apparently none of these young people know how to date.
Some of us old people have problems dating. I don't think it ever gets easy.
AS an old person with narrow taste in music and activities that are not very popular, I think computer dating would work well to weed out people who hate jazz and lap swimming before I dated them.
Load More Replies...I'm 56 and am overjoyed to not have to navigate the current dating terrain, tyvm
Dating sucks. If I ever become single again, I think I'll just stay single and avoid the stress.
Longer than 15 years ago, but in movies when someone would call someone and they would answer the phone...you knew where they were. The phone was wired into their house. And the opposite, you just knew you were not going to be able to get ahold of them while they were out/traveling. It was just impossible, and that was accepted.
Here in Germany it's still pretty common to have a "house phone", I think mainly because that's the most basic thing every contract regarding internet connection includes
Headphone jacks are going to confuse the hell out of kids one day.
Going back that way it seems, as losing an expensive pair of wire less buds is a costly lesson.
Streaming anything other than YouTube was a joke. Terrible quality. Extremely limited selection. Netflix was the best game in town and their DVD/Blu-ray selection was far superior to their streaming setup, which you got for free with a DVD subscription.
Manual transmissions.
This is unique to the U.S. market, the rest of the world still learns how to drive a manual.
We still have a separate licence for automatics in the UK. If you take your test in an auto, you can't drive a manual. I've never owwned an automatic (in 35 years of driving).
Load More Replies...Shifting becomes a habit. Years ago I moved from the US to Japan for a few years. In Japan they drive on the left side of the road and the driver's seat is on the right side of the car. Upon arriving, I bought a manual transmission car. Driving was difficult at first not just because of being on the opposite side of the road, but also because every time I needed to shift, my right hand would hit the door!
In this situation, I suspect I would have the same issue. 🤭
Load More Replies...I have driven manual transmission vehicles a total of about a half-million miles. My current vehicle is a manual 2005 Pontiac Vibe with 200,000 miles on it and still going strong.
Sadly they barely even sell them anymore. Even 25 years ago in high school I was the only person in my auto shop class who could drive a manual
I've driven automatic for 3 years and I'm so glad I'm back to manual. It nakes it easier for me to remain focused: I am driving an advanced vehicle, but still I need to do something to get it to work properly. Automatic sucks imo
Load More Replies...Mainly in America so more idiots can drive and do something else at the same time.
In the U.S....overall in Europe, 80% of new cars are Manual transmission (with individual countries going as high as 90%) compared to 1.7% (despite accounting for 4% of the human population, the U.S represents 20% of all cars in the world) Even so, new sales of manual transmission cars have fallen over the past few years.....largely due to the rise of hybrids and EV's across the rest of the world.
You're sure about those figures? When we bought a (young used) VW two years ago, dealer told us it may be the last time transmission is available. In Germany, and we (family) drive our cars for 10+ years.
Load More Replies...This quickly turned into a 'the young people of today' article. I'm old enough to remember when most of the OPs WERE the young people of today and people my age said all the same stuff about them. I'm afraid the truth is that the young people of today are more tolerant, less biased, more educated but just as decent as any generation before them. Look how they stepped up during COVID..
So the people whining about yOuNG pEoPLe not being able to do anything... Are the same people who should've taught those young people to do those things? Great job, parents. Give yourselves a lil pat on the back. You've earned it. Lmao.
Agreed. Even back in my day when I was starting out (got my first apartment at 19 in 1980), my parents said the same things about my mistakes budgeting and paying bills. They hated hearing me tell them how many times I asked them to show me how to set a budget, make a grocery list, make sure I pay bills on time, etc, etc, etc, and they would just brush me off and say they’d show me later. Then never did, even when I announced I was moving out and would need those skills. Basically, I learned on my own, by trial and error—-meaning more error than anything else. Harder lessons than they had to be too. Needless to say, I eventually went NC with my parents, who also weren’t going to help me go to college like they helped my brothers, even though out of their five kids, I was the only one with the GPA to go to any college I wanted to. So instead I found a job, saved my money, and moved out. Went to college too, later in life and paying for it myself. Didn’t need their help with that, though I had to delay doing it a bit.
Load More Replies...Is any of this stuff really necessary? Who cares if a person doesn't know how to open a CD or use a landline. This stuff is extinct.
Once had someone get annoyed that I didn't know how to use a typewriter
Load More Replies...Another thing is people thinking they can just choose which generation they're in. The generation refers to the range of years within which you were born and the general experiences you would have had growing up. A Millennial can't just decide to be Gen X because they don't want to have been born in the 80s or 90s.
Thinking that a 15 to 20-year range can be used to describe everyone born in that range. You can't even do that for a one-hour range.
Load More Replies...I feel like half the people who said these things need to be reminded that 15 years ago was 2009, and lots of this is before then
I'm surprised food delivery wasn't on the list. Young people today probably don't realize that just a few decades ago, the only food you could get delivered to your house was pizza or Chinese food.
I can play games on my state of the art PC while spinning records. Best inter-generation ever.
This quickly turned into a 'the young people of today' article. I'm old enough to remember when most of the OPs WERE the young people of today and people my age said all the same stuff about them. I'm afraid the truth is that the young people of today are more tolerant, less biased, more educated but just as decent as any generation before them. Look how they stepped up during COVID..
So the people whining about yOuNG pEoPLe not being able to do anything... Are the same people who should've taught those young people to do those things? Great job, parents. Give yourselves a lil pat on the back. You've earned it. Lmao.
Agreed. Even back in my day when I was starting out (got my first apartment at 19 in 1980), my parents said the same things about my mistakes budgeting and paying bills. They hated hearing me tell them how many times I asked them to show me how to set a budget, make a grocery list, make sure I pay bills on time, etc, etc, etc, and they would just brush me off and say they’d show me later. Then never did, even when I announced I was moving out and would need those skills. Basically, I learned on my own, by trial and error—-meaning more error than anything else. Harder lessons than they had to be too. Needless to say, I eventually went NC with my parents, who also weren’t going to help me go to college like they helped my brothers, even though out of their five kids, I was the only one with the GPA to go to any college I wanted to. So instead I found a job, saved my money, and moved out. Went to college too, later in life and paying for it myself. Didn’t need their help with that, though I had to delay doing it a bit.
Load More Replies...Is any of this stuff really necessary? Who cares if a person doesn't know how to open a CD or use a landline. This stuff is extinct.
Once had someone get annoyed that I didn't know how to use a typewriter
Load More Replies...Another thing is people thinking they can just choose which generation they're in. The generation refers to the range of years within which you were born and the general experiences you would have had growing up. A Millennial can't just decide to be Gen X because they don't want to have been born in the 80s or 90s.
Thinking that a 15 to 20-year range can be used to describe everyone born in that range. You can't even do that for a one-hour range.
Load More Replies...I feel like half the people who said these things need to be reminded that 15 years ago was 2009, and lots of this is before then
I'm surprised food delivery wasn't on the list. Young people today probably don't realize that just a few decades ago, the only food you could get delivered to your house was pizza or Chinese food.
I can play games on my state of the art PC while spinning records. Best inter-generation ever.
