This Online Community Roasts MLMs And Pyramid Schemes One Screenshot At A Time (30 New Posts)
Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) is a method based on distributors selling goods or services, in the meantime attracting new recruits to the company. These salespeople are incentivized to draw others in by receiving a percentage from their sales. The same way, the newbies are encouraged not only to sell products but to look for likely candidates to join under their wing.
“Sounds a lot like a pyramid scheme,” you might think. And you’re right. The two are definitely alike; however, one is legal, the other—not so much. Also known as network marketing, MLM is a legitimate process, yet the line between the two can often get somewhat faded.
Whether it’s a pyramid scheme or a MLM company, some distributors can get way out of line to increase their sales. Such instances deserve shaming, and that’s exactly what the ‘Anti MLM’ community members on Reddit do. They share screenshots and memes and roast them one image at a time. We collected some of the best examples, covering the heartless, the crazy, and the foolish of multi-level marketing representatives for you to enjoy.
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An Mlm I Could Get Behind
Multi-level marketing is often also called direct sales, which is based on person-to-person pitches. According to Statista, the US is the global leader when it comes to this. Back in 2021, direct sales generated nearly 43 billion dollars, which is more than double the amount in Korea—the follow-up country on the list. Germany, China, and Japan line up behind the two respectively.
IBIS data indicated that now, in 2023, the US market size of direct selling companies is over 65 billion dollars. It also revealed that it has been steadily growing for the last five years.
Holy Personal And Possible(?) Hippa Violation. I Hope This Lady Loses Her Job
Chatgpt Got Wise To Mlms
Multi-level marketing is not a recent innovation. It’s believed to date back to the junction of the 19th and 20th centuries. Determining the exact year is difficult; so is finding out who were the first ones to introduce it, but such companies as AVON and Nutrilite are considered to be among the flag bearers.
According to Zippia, AVON recently had roughly 23,000 distributors and an annual revenue of 3.4 billion US dollars. The largest MLM company in the US (Amway), is believed to have around 15,000 distributors and nearly 9 billion in revenue.
They Better Leave The Poor Rats Alone!
Came Across This Beaut In One Of My Facebook Groups
Back in the day, distributors would have to go door to door selling their products. Nowadays, there are numerous ways to reach a person without having to show up at their house. People are connected through phones and social media, which means a salesperson can reach them in a matter of minutes.
A lot of them choose the latter option to spread information or try to recruit others—online platforms are mostly free, readily available, and easy to use. However, looks can be deceiving, and some MLM companies that seem to be flourishing on social media might not be in real life.
Now This Is Heartwarming
Taken From Facebook, But Huns Are Getting Bold
I Was Sick To My Stomach Thinking My Friend Got Sucked In
The way multi-level marketing is introduced usually sounds very appealing. Recruiters tend to emphasize that you can work from anywhere, at any time, and make loads of money. Seems too good to be true? Well, because it most likely is.
The overwhelming majority (91%) join such schemes with hopes of earning money, yet as many as 47% admit to losing it in the end. The numbers show that these options are far from the easy peasy lemon squeezy kind of options they are often presented as. Fundera pointed out that 52% of MLM distributors say that the way the company presented making money is “not too accurate” or “not at all accurate.”
Coffee Shop Isn’t Having It
How Friggin Sad Is This
As Seen On Whitepeopletwitter
I hope you showed her the malleus maleficarum and said "gonna use this on you if you do not back off"
According to Fundera, roughly one in 13 adults have taken part in MLM at some point in their lives. In addition to that, Direct Selling Association revealed that over 16 million Americans in 2021 alone signed independent contractors’ agreements with direct sales companies.
My Optometrists Office, Of All F***ing Places
I can understand people taking herbalife in the same way as I would understand runners drinking eggnog. It's basically a nutrition-deprived diet that will make you lose weight. But it's not really food.
I Like Sharing This With The Mlm Huns; They Always Have The Same Thing To Say, "Those People Didn't Try Hard Enough"
The Only Possible Explanation
head of major govt agency, owns a mega corporation, something like that. Not on a normal american salary, no way.
In some ways, multi-level marketing companies resemble a cult. According to the author and mental health professional Steven Alan Hassan, they both use similar strategies, such as appealing to people’s emotions and creating false portrayals of certain situations.
“Most MLMs use tactics of recruitment, financial manipulation, and the promise of large profits. But, like all cults, they employ thought control, magical thinking, thought-stopping, and self-blame. Failures are blamed directly on the consultants, for lack of hard work or competence. The group has no accountability, and the leaders do not allow questions or criticism,” he wrote in Psychology Today.
Last Minute April Fool I Did For My Husband
Using Her Husbands Death To Sell Nails Strips
Just Getting Straight To The Point
Someone from your close circle might have tried to convince you to join such endeavors. Whether it’s an uncle taking his shot at it during another family gathering or a classmate with eyes full of enthusiasm, they most likely mean well, but it’s important to take their assertions with a grain of salt. What sounds like legitimate MLM can end up being a pyramid scheme.
Soon As I See These I'm Checked Out
Anyone who uses these in a non-ironic way doesn't know what they mean. "Detox" - oh, precisely what POISON are you removing from my body with your detox-cleanse? Do you know its chemical formula? Is it cyanide? Strychnine? Arsenic? What...? Oh, you mean butter? f**k off. "Organic"... yeah... so... contains hydrated carbon molecules, like almost everything above the lithosphere and exposed to the atmosphere. Oh you mean not mass-farmed? So unsustainable and resource-intensive food for privileged rich people, got it. Superfood? Oh you mean like, you can totally eat only that and not die of malnutrition? You go ahead first. I will watch. If you live longer than a month I'll consider it. Anti-ageing. Sure. That's why you have crow's feet Sharon. Antioxidant. You mean a reducing agent? You mean like pure hydrogen? That reduces substances in a redox reaction. Because the opposite of an oxidising agent (antioxidant) is a reducing agent. So I must huff hydrogen ? or what?...
Well This Seems Unethical
The Nerve. My Grandma Passed Away The Day Before I Got This Message
A pyramid scheme is a fraudulent system based on promises of high returns and emphasis on recruitment. In such cases, the founder attracts X amount of people, who then have to do the same, creating a snowball effect leading to rapid expansion. Newcomers usually have to pay a certain amount in order to be able to join.
In these schemes, people receive money for recruiting others, not for selling the goods. One of the main differences between that and legitimate MLM is that no product is actually sold in a pyramid scheme.
Oven Roasted!
But... Subway has vinegar at their stores, *gasp* Subway is a secret MLM!!!!!
At What Point Will Huns Begin To Realize This Isn’t Normal?
No Words
The pyramid scheme always leads to an inevitable collapse. That is why it’s important to look for possible red flags before signing up for anything of that kind. Associate Professor of Economics at Hamline University, Stacie Bosley, spoke about how to spot a pyramid scheme in a TED-Ed Video.
She distinguished three main signs to be on the lookout for—urgency-based pressure, promises about life-changing amounts of money, and having to pay in order to be able to sell goods and services.
Our Daughter Passed Away Last Month. My Husband Received This Message Today From Someone He Knew In Highschool
Who’s Gonna Tell Her?
I'm Doing This At 6cm Dilated!
Pyramid schemes as well as MLM are typically very superficially appealing, especially to those going through hardships in life. The prospect of earning large sums fast might seem like the only way out for some of them. Sadly, certain people use others’ unfortunate circumstances to make money.
Girl On My Facebook Posted This… She’s Dead Serious…
Posted By A Hun Who “Owns Her Own Business” Selling I’m Sure You Can Guess Which Essential Oils
Not to worry I know just the thing for struggling teens with gullible or neglectful parents. I can’t remember its name, but the company that makes it is known as C-P-S. I suggest giving them a ring, they’ll definitly be able to help your daughter
Paparazzi Paid For Her Gas
Such fast ways of generating money can be not only dangerous, but annoying as well. These images are great proof that certain distributors take it too far with their pitches. And when the recipients’ patience runs out, they might turn to the online world to let out their despair or shame the irritating salespeople.
God, Just Shut The F**k Up Already!
they also can't afford to sink 4000 USD in buying c**p stock and then trying to sell that to their family and friends
Got Em'
Took My Cat To A New Vet Today... Immediate No
Instant infuriation button-press for me. SO MANY essential oils are toxic to cats. Peppermint is TOXIC TO CATS. If "Peace & Calming" has lavender... TOXIC TO CATS. That is not even considering that essential oils are CONCENTRATED oils... meaning their scent is super-concentrated and is likely incredibly overwhelming to your cat, even if the particular oil isn't directly toxic. Anyone who uses essential oils on their pets is a horrible human being and is abusing their pets. ESPECIALLY if they are using essential oils in lieu of necessary medical treatment or pain management. Full stop.
Spotted At Hobby Lobby And Got A Chuckle
Well, that is appropriate. Having Hobby Lobby in a thread about evil companies.
Just Got This Text From A “Friend”
I Reported An Herbalife “Nutrition Club” To My Local Food Safety Authority And They Are Investigating! It’s Unlicensed!!
Because Regular Old Water Apparently Isn’t Hydrating
Got Sent This Shit After A Bridal Expo I Didn’t Even Go To But Got Tickets For
And Then Her Ob Called Her A Boss Babe
Saw On Fb Today 😂 At Least She’s Got A Good Sense Of Humor
I Think This Is Extremely Disrespectful! Poor Possum Didn't Ask For This!
it's a cult, and like any other cult, the members can't see they are in a cult and they are not selling the truth.
Wedding Photographer Received This Message From A Potential Client To Join Her Mlm Or The Client Wouldn’t Sign The Contract
Seen At Local Target. You All Know Why
Gave Me A Chuckle
Ok But Can U Not
Defaced Some Cutco Posters I Saw At My College
She Was The Reason I Had To Say No Mlm Recommendations
I Am Pretty Sure Tsa Does Not Allow "Medical-Grade Water" In Your Carry-On But Ok Cult Leader Hun
medical grade water, what... like distilled water? that you buy at the hardware store for your car battery?
My Military Friend Posted This
I'll Take Things That Didn't Happen For $200
After Long Time Lurking This Sub, I Found A Post Worthy One On My Fb Feed
No Herbalife
Jokes On You, I Won’t Pay For Either Because They’re Both Overpriced Nonsense
I Emailed Younique While Pretending To Be A Reporter So They Could See The Meme I Made Of Their CEO
Woah Look At Those Results!
So A Student Sent This To The Entire College System…
I'd think commercial announcements on a campus-wide mailing list would not be tolerated by any university??
Still Feeling Bummed About The Breaking Up With My GF So I'm Binge-Watching The Simpsons. The First Episode I Put On Has Homer Getting Scammed By An Mlm
Elon Musk Sliding Into Your Dms Like "Heyy Hunn"
I Just Wanted To Sell A Skillet
It’s The Order For Me
Anyone Else See Any Huns Capitalizing On The School Shooting To Market Their Mlm Today?
My Stepmom Reached Out To Me After Two Years Of No Contact
A friend of my parents did really well out of Mary Kay, she started sometime in the late 80s. She got really high up, had a car and fancy cruises etc. She's obviously one of the very few lucky ones who made a lot of money and is used to lure new unsuspecting victims to sign up by showing what is possible if you "work hard enough".
Doterra Is Now Also Good For Your Plumbing
BP Staff: Do I have permission to print this one out and share it with my co workers? I work in the plumbing department of a major hardware store (Orange is their favorite color) and they'd get a good laugh at this one
My Mom (Red) Thinks Her Cousin (Blue) Got Hacked 😅
"Lady Gaga" At Monat Reunion
It’s Spooky Szn, Huns!
Yes, She Is Being Serious
This Is So Tiring
“They just supply ALL of our ingredients & soft inventory. We ordered the tables & chairs from another supplier.”
This Was In My Son’s Bag Of Halloween Candy
My Former Upline “Enjoying Her Tea”…. The Bottle Is Still Sealed
Plunder Consultants Will Soon Be Wielding Welding Machinery
And if you ever have to have surgery or an MRI you can kiss that jewelry goodbye.
Is It Just Me Or Is This Absolutely Not Enough Food For A Day??
Not Really An Acceptable Answer
And Then The Nursing Staff All Signed Up!
I'm a nurse. Yes, I'd let you keep those on because you'd argue the benefits of them (of which there is none) with me. Then I'd just chart that you refused to remove them so I wasn't responsible.
Guilting People For Spending Their Money How They Want
but what is the value proposition? 1. be entertained by famous artist OR 2. starve to death on fake cellulose-based shake drink? (I'd still choose 1 and I don't care much for TS as an artist).
Godfucking Damnit
jesus even on bumble. They must put a filter on there "do you work for or sell MLM products such as"
How To Spot A Narcissist …
if you WERE a six-fig earner you wouldn't be a normal person at a coffee shop like that,.. you'd be posting actual photos of you in actual exotic locations etc.
Friend-Turned-Velovita-Hun Pesters Me About My Diabetic Doc Clearing Me To Use Her Bs Product
The Owner Of The Chick-Fil-A That's Asking For Slave Labor Is An Advocare Hun
ok, so, I work for CFA part time... what even is this? I'm so confused. So they are looking for people to work 1 hour at a time but not for money as an employee, but for free food? What??
I f*****g hate MLMs with a passion. They make poor gullible people poorer and more desperate. They ruin families and marriages and destroy friendships. They are a cult that turns normal functional human beings into desperados who think they will be rich by flogging garbage products through direct in-person marketing in an era where everything legit is advertised online en-masse in a much more efficient product value chain. They pester friends and family and spouses until they are abandoned and left destitute with a garage/house full of c**p they cannot sell that they bought in order to fulfil their monthly sales quota. In reality, the people making the money are the recruiters who recruit people actively, not those who sell products. They are nothing short of cults because you ruin your existing social network to join a different one, and if you express doubts you are taught "truth" incantations to repeat to unbelievers. If you try leave they penalise and ostracise.
TWO of my partners got sucked into this c**p and lost $1000 and $3000 respectively at the exchange rates at the time. Neither were stupid; they were just gullible and desperately did not want to work office jobs, and had no talents that were valued enough to pay well in non-office jobs. MLMs prey on desperate and gullible people. They must be banned and shut down. If you are an MLM company owner, f**k you and I hope there really is a hell so you can burn in it, for all the lives you have ruined. You are as evil as a petrol company that sends "veterans" to die in your oil wars. There is ONLY ONE MLM product that is ACTUALLY worth anything, viz Tupperware, but I refuse to sign up with them, and I only buy from them IF i need a container of the sort they have on offer at the time, which is like once a decade, because that s**t lasts forever.
Load More Replies...Just came to the realisation how religion fits here. Signing up family members is just how it starts.
There's a reason why there's the joke that mlm=Mormons losing money. There's a lot of them in Utah. They push a fake feminist narrative of women's empowerment but have a very 1950s attitude to women in the workplace. So they often target mothers and try to guilt trip ones who have an actual job for not "spending more time with their babies". They also market to stay at home moms as a way to earn extra money while staying home. However, you actually lose money and these things have a worse work/life balance than a normal job.
Load More Replies...Amway cost me a friendship. A friend invited me to a "party" that turned out to be an Amway pitch. When I confronted her she said they were told to lie otherwise people might not come. I never talked to her again.
Sounds like the couple that conned us into driving two hours to what turned out to be a Primerica convention. (It's a MLM financial services outfit) In our defence, we were both laid off from our jobs at the time due to a deep recession.
Load More Replies...I was approached in a coffee shop and asked if I want to make extra money (I guess they heard me and my friend talk about me having just quit my job), I asked them for more info. I asked them how much they earn? How much they pay out in buying stuff? And how many hours the spend on it? Have the considered the cost of phone, internet, heating etc? They couldn't answer any of my questions with anything more than not long, not much, a lot (the best response to each question) I said if they couldn't tell me what they earn hourly after costs I didnt want anything to do with it (I just wanted to mess with them, I was never gonna do it). For reference it was a manager and her underling she was trying to show her how easy it was to sign people up so she could sign the underling up as a recruiter, I had listened to their conversations also 🤣
My husband got suckered into MLM c**p before we moved out of state. He got to talking to some guy who was doing amway. Before I knew it, he gave them $250 and I attended 3 meetings (alone; I’m a lady). It was heck. Just how to sell products to make profit and all this hogwash. I was like “no, this isn’t legit; it’s literal scam” and tried to get the money back but nope….oh well, lesson learned. Years later my sil tried doing that other health one (it had patches and those had vitamins in it) something-life. Nope never fell for it again (but hubby almost did).
I have a an auntie who did Mary Kay for, like, 20 years. They always told her she was *just* on the edge of getting that pink Cadillac. She *finally* saw the light somehow, calling it all kinds of fraud etc., and she got out. Within a year she was selling oils for a similar firm. And this time she sucked in her daughter, who had been a huge critic of Mary Kay. Ugh.
Be nice if BP could show this article to the bots who sometimes show in their comments section.
I remember knowing a woman who literally lost every friend because of her MLM. Anytime she talked/posted/reached out to anyone, it was about her MLM products. Witnessed her closest friendship wither because her MLM was her only reason for living after a short time. It is literal brainwashing trying to earn a dollar.
Had a friend who always tried to sell me Mary Kay cosmetics........ ugh! It was non-stop! Went to lunch together & she got a sales call in the middle of our conversation, and she HAD to take the call........ she called me once on my birthday, not to wish me a happy birthday but to invite me over for a 'muffin & a make over'. That's what I wanted to hear on my 40th birthday! We haven't talked in years......
My insurance guy AND my gynecologist BOTH tried to get me into MLM. The insurance guy wouldn't come out to take pics of our house for insurance purposes and had our house listed as a brick home...it wasn't...so he was neglecting his actual business for his MLM, so we dropped him. The Gynecologist asked me the day after my hysterectomy if I wanted to try some supplements to help with pain (no prescription??) and gave me a phone number to call that had nothing to do with the hospital. Never went back to him after that. Went to my GP for aftercare
I join all the MLM's because I want the discounts on the products...I have never begged anyone to join, but I have had a number of people order from me.
I had a chat a good 20 years ago with my 'team lead' at the MLM insurance company I got sucked into at the time and it was so powerful I want to share it. So I felt very bad about what I was doing (approaching friends and family, cold calling people etc) and wanted help. This guy was highly successful but clearly had no moral compass, so I asked him to handle my objections as if I was a prospect. The only difference was that my objections were well reasoned and boiled down to the core essence of what most people absolutely hate about MLM agents and other parasites of similar kind. I can't fully recall what my argument was, but mostly about choices, freedom and detecting dishonesty. He was shocked after about 5 min into the meeting. I pointed out every single one of his lies. We agreed it wasn't for me at the end. :) Important lesson learned that day
I hope this doesn't come off as homophobic, but I had fun with someone trying to get me into MLM marketing by insisting it was gay: "Wait, this is MLM. I didn't know you were gay." "You think only gays use vitamins?" "No, but I just looked this up online, and its described as MLM. That means Men Loving Men, doesn't it?" "It's selling vitamins." "I didn't even know there were gay vitamins. So what kind of vitamins do gays use?" "These aren't just for gays!' "So you have vitamins for Lesbians, too?" This went on for what seemed like 15 minutes.
I f*****g hate MLMs with a passion. They make poor gullible people poorer and more desperate. They ruin families and marriages and destroy friendships. They are a cult that turns normal functional human beings into desperados who think they will be rich by flogging garbage products through direct in-person marketing in an era where everything legit is advertised online en-masse in a much more efficient product value chain. They pester friends and family and spouses until they are abandoned and left destitute with a garage/house full of c**p they cannot sell that they bought in order to fulfil their monthly sales quota. In reality, the people making the money are the recruiters who recruit people actively, not those who sell products. They are nothing short of cults because you ruin your existing social network to join a different one, and if you express doubts you are taught "truth" incantations to repeat to unbelievers. If you try leave they penalise and ostracise.
TWO of my partners got sucked into this c**p and lost $1000 and $3000 respectively at the exchange rates at the time. Neither were stupid; they were just gullible and desperately did not want to work office jobs, and had no talents that were valued enough to pay well in non-office jobs. MLMs prey on desperate and gullible people. They must be banned and shut down. If you are an MLM company owner, f**k you and I hope there really is a hell so you can burn in it, for all the lives you have ruined. You are as evil as a petrol company that sends "veterans" to die in your oil wars. There is ONLY ONE MLM product that is ACTUALLY worth anything, viz Tupperware, but I refuse to sign up with them, and I only buy from them IF i need a container of the sort they have on offer at the time, which is like once a decade, because that s**t lasts forever.
Load More Replies...Just came to the realisation how religion fits here. Signing up family members is just how it starts.
There's a reason why there's the joke that mlm=Mormons losing money. There's a lot of them in Utah. They push a fake feminist narrative of women's empowerment but have a very 1950s attitude to women in the workplace. So they often target mothers and try to guilt trip ones who have an actual job for not "spending more time with their babies". They also market to stay at home moms as a way to earn extra money while staying home. However, you actually lose money and these things have a worse work/life balance than a normal job.
Load More Replies...Amway cost me a friendship. A friend invited me to a "party" that turned out to be an Amway pitch. When I confronted her she said they were told to lie otherwise people might not come. I never talked to her again.
Sounds like the couple that conned us into driving two hours to what turned out to be a Primerica convention. (It's a MLM financial services outfit) In our defence, we were both laid off from our jobs at the time due to a deep recession.
Load More Replies...I was approached in a coffee shop and asked if I want to make extra money (I guess they heard me and my friend talk about me having just quit my job), I asked them for more info. I asked them how much they earn? How much they pay out in buying stuff? And how many hours the spend on it? Have the considered the cost of phone, internet, heating etc? They couldn't answer any of my questions with anything more than not long, not much, a lot (the best response to each question) I said if they couldn't tell me what they earn hourly after costs I didnt want anything to do with it (I just wanted to mess with them, I was never gonna do it). For reference it was a manager and her underling she was trying to show her how easy it was to sign people up so she could sign the underling up as a recruiter, I had listened to their conversations also 🤣
My husband got suckered into MLM c**p before we moved out of state. He got to talking to some guy who was doing amway. Before I knew it, he gave them $250 and I attended 3 meetings (alone; I’m a lady). It was heck. Just how to sell products to make profit and all this hogwash. I was like “no, this isn’t legit; it’s literal scam” and tried to get the money back but nope….oh well, lesson learned. Years later my sil tried doing that other health one (it had patches and those had vitamins in it) something-life. Nope never fell for it again (but hubby almost did).
I have a an auntie who did Mary Kay for, like, 20 years. They always told her she was *just* on the edge of getting that pink Cadillac. She *finally* saw the light somehow, calling it all kinds of fraud etc., and she got out. Within a year she was selling oils for a similar firm. And this time she sucked in her daughter, who had been a huge critic of Mary Kay. Ugh.
Be nice if BP could show this article to the bots who sometimes show in their comments section.
I remember knowing a woman who literally lost every friend because of her MLM. Anytime she talked/posted/reached out to anyone, it was about her MLM products. Witnessed her closest friendship wither because her MLM was her only reason for living after a short time. It is literal brainwashing trying to earn a dollar.
Had a friend who always tried to sell me Mary Kay cosmetics........ ugh! It was non-stop! Went to lunch together & she got a sales call in the middle of our conversation, and she HAD to take the call........ she called me once on my birthday, not to wish me a happy birthday but to invite me over for a 'muffin & a make over'. That's what I wanted to hear on my 40th birthday! We haven't talked in years......
My insurance guy AND my gynecologist BOTH tried to get me into MLM. The insurance guy wouldn't come out to take pics of our house for insurance purposes and had our house listed as a brick home...it wasn't...so he was neglecting his actual business for his MLM, so we dropped him. The Gynecologist asked me the day after my hysterectomy if I wanted to try some supplements to help with pain (no prescription??) and gave me a phone number to call that had nothing to do with the hospital. Never went back to him after that. Went to my GP for aftercare
I join all the MLM's because I want the discounts on the products...I have never begged anyone to join, but I have had a number of people order from me.
I had a chat a good 20 years ago with my 'team lead' at the MLM insurance company I got sucked into at the time and it was so powerful I want to share it. So I felt very bad about what I was doing (approaching friends and family, cold calling people etc) and wanted help. This guy was highly successful but clearly had no moral compass, so I asked him to handle my objections as if I was a prospect. The only difference was that my objections were well reasoned and boiled down to the core essence of what most people absolutely hate about MLM agents and other parasites of similar kind. I can't fully recall what my argument was, but mostly about choices, freedom and detecting dishonesty. He was shocked after about 5 min into the meeting. I pointed out every single one of his lies. We agreed it wasn't for me at the end. :) Important lesson learned that day
I hope this doesn't come off as homophobic, but I had fun with someone trying to get me into MLM marketing by insisting it was gay: "Wait, this is MLM. I didn't know you were gay." "You think only gays use vitamins?" "No, but I just looked this up online, and its described as MLM. That means Men Loving Men, doesn't it?" "It's selling vitamins." "I didn't even know there were gay vitamins. So what kind of vitamins do gays use?" "These aren't just for gays!' "So you have vitamins for Lesbians, too?" This went on for what seemed like 15 minutes.