“You Don’t Realize That Until It’s Too Late”: 30 Signs That Somebody Is Not Okay
Interview With ExpertReaching out for help is hard. It can be difficult to even admit to yourself that you’re struggling, let alone be honest with another person about what you’re going through. But the reality is that half of us will experience a mental health disorder at some point in our lives, and there’s absolutely no need to suffer in silence.
To make sure we’re looking out for one another, Redditors have recently been sharing subtle signs of mental health struggles that often go unnoticed. Below, you’ll find some eye-opening replies that might remind you to check in with your loved ones, as well as conversations with Lau Ciocan, Founder of Mentoring Advocacy Network, and registered psychotherapist and life coach Krista Roesler from Psych Company!
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As Robin Williams once said:
I think the saddest people always try their hardest to make people happy because they know what it’s like to feel absolutely worthless and they don’t want anyone else to feel like that.
This hit hard. I've had years of trying (and succeeding) to make my co-workers laugh, have fun, feel happy. I was perceived as the coolest girl in the office. In reality, I was struggling with depression and slowly developing addictions. Grateful I got out of this circle.
This hits close to me too. My depression is carefully hidden (for everyone I'm not that close with) and everyone is always surprised to hear about it. Glad that you out of the circle. I have still some work to be able to do that.
Load More Replies...Relatable. I've for years and years wanted to be the cool, outgoing woman all the time, even if I deep down felt very depressed and just really wanted to be left alone and be by myself. Since a few years it's crashed entirely in on itself and I just can't be bothered wanting to be part of everything all the time. I can still be outgoing, just on my own terms.
This cannot be upvoted enough. When I first heard the first sentence about Robin Williams having died, my first thought was that it was suicide. He was sooooo funny, but I could see the hurt.
Load More Replies...Very well said. I'm one of those people. However, I'm learning that no matter how hard you try, some people are going to resent you anyway.
I, like a lot of folks with depression, spend so much energy appearing OK, but they are hurting inside. I can make people laugh so well, but inside I'm hurting.
The Class Clown - I was sometimes one of them - is never the happiest kid in the room. Take my word for it.
Robin Williams is one of my few personal heroes. The world would be a better place if more people tried to be like him.
To gain more insight into this topic, Bored Panda got in touch with Lau Ciocan. Lau is a TEDx speaker and the Founder of Mentoring Advocacy Network (MAN), a platform raising awareness on men's mental health and healthy masculinities through public speaking, webinars, and The Mentality Podcast. He was nominated for the Future Leader Award, and MAN was shortlisted for the Best Men's Health Initiative by the InsideOut Awards in 2023 and 2024.
When it comes to the common signs of mental health struggles to look out for, Lau says, "It's important to bear in mind that the signs of mental health challenges might differ from person to person and we might miss them in some people who 'camouflage' or 'mask' their struggles well."
During my worst depressive relapses, I would constantly ask how people were doing. If someone you know is constantly asking everyone how they’re doing/if they’re okay with little to no reason to why they ask, please ask it back. I was on the verge of s*icide many times in the past and all I could ever do was reach out, ask if someone was okay, and that I love them. I was never asked it back. It’s a miracle that I’m still here.
Big hugs. I've been there. And yes, they didn't ask back, or asked but didn't care to hear the answer. Someone told me then to look into the mirror, to see the person I needed to take care of.
The thing is...I don't like the person o see in the mirror. I can't. I have been avoiding mirrors for more than ten years, i hate looking at myself
Load More Replies...I've been there. I'm the one everyone turns to, who is just expected to be there. But when I need them? Even when I flat out ask, I'm usually met with a dismissive response and then ignored.
Some people's "friends" just treat them like a trauma dump. Maybe they're just thoughtless, maybe they just think you're the go to because you always have been and therefore you can't possibly need help. But whatever the reason, if you're asking for support and aren't getting it, these people are not your friends. They're using you for free therapy. Having been the dump (sounds gross but it follows the allegory so there you go), it's time to move on. You only have so much emotional energy and the vast majority of it should be spent on yourself.
Load More Replies...When people ask me how I'm doing and I always say ok even when I'm not but I always ask them back because I know that's why they were asking me in the first place
Most people only worry about themselves and you eventually start doing the same when you experience this.
You right! And you can lost some "friends" and "family" like it happens to me, but with that i find myself, and with a bit of effort and wisdon gained i found good people and learn how to not waste my energy
Load More Replies...People seem so superficial now, I mean more than ever. They look but they don't see.
Hits home.. I was the caring, quick with a joke, or to light up your smoke guy. Nobody had a clue. This is going to p**s off people but I'll say it anyway. There is suicidal and reaching out, and suicidal and hiding it. You hide it because you know someone will stop it. I was a hypocrite, giving advice to people to fight onward when I wanted to give the grim reaper a big wet sloppy kiss.
"The signs that might fall under the radar and need a closer look could be someone experiencing hyper-productivity, irregular sleep patterns or eating habits. However, some of the more evident signs of struggle include the overall change in behavior and personality, gradual and progressive distance from loved ones, increased levels of fatigue, or lack of motivation and enthusiasm," the expert added.
When someone has struggled and things suddenly seem better overnight, despite there being no known reason for the change.
So you stop worrying about them. They’re better now.
You don’t realize that it’s because they made a plan.
You don’t realize that until it’s too late.
Once they seem to draw strength to pull them out of their struggles, they also draw courage :( Not sure they can be helped at this point :(
They can. They just need to know someone cares enough to have noticed
Load More Replies...This is one of the dangers of antidepressants, and I say this as a person who takes them: a lot of people simply don't do themselves in because the roll is so exhausting, that they don't have the strength. So they start taking antidepressants, start to feel more energetic, but still feel the need to check out... only they now have the energy to plan. Don't assume that the pills alone will be a magic bullet. This can also happen is there is an abrupt change in their medicine plan that is too great in a short amount of time...or they choose to go off them.
My doctor warned me about that when I started taking them. It didn't last long for me, but at least I was prepared for it
Load More Replies...This. This has been me. Obviously there was a failure to complete the plan because I'm still here. And I now have cats to take care of, which the thought of something happening to them, scares me.
This. I never made a complete plan. And so I never did it. Also your cats need you. You're their person.
Load More Replies...This... when the quiet and withdrawn ones are suddenly back overnight, then you really, REALLY need to check what's up.
I was talking to a friend's mom whose son had just committed suicide recently. She didn't understand, because he was better the last time they talked. I told her this. It actually brought her a little peace to understand this fact. Not much peace, but some understanding.
Never, never stop caring and talking. There’s always a chance that a text, an email or a call could be the trigger for something that saves a life. Silence kills. I’ve been to the edge and ended up under the care of a crisis team, one text made me seek out help to stop me jumping. That friend saved my life. Don’t hassle people into communicating but equally be present, check in with daft things, be the light relief someone needs to escape the thoughts that are overwhelming them, you never know that your unintentional intervention may save a life. Be more kind.
This was almost me, but my cat stopped me at the last second, just as I was about to pull the trigger. She jumped into my lap & head butted me, asking for pets & suddenly I worried what would happen to her afterwards. Would she be treated good? So I lived for her until I got help.
Can't totally agree with this one. I'm very bi polar and my mood can change easily over night. My lows lasts a few days and then with the snap of a finger I'm on a high
As for what we should do when we notice these behaviors, Lau says it depends on the relationship one has with the person experiencing mental health challenges. "We don't know what this person is going through, so the first step one can take is to approach the situation with compassion and sensitivity and ask open questions that allow the person to open up," he shared. "And if they do, one should listen attentively and without judgment."
"I would also say that one should assess for risk of suicide or harm, and if serious contact the relevant professional services," the mental health expert added. "In parallel, one should encourage the person to get the appropriate professional help and offer assistance and support in doing so."
They don't have the same excitement about things they used to really enjoy.
This is what finally got me to therapy. I went on an awesome vacation, something I'd wanted dtondo all my life. Beautiful landscapes, totally different culture (which I enjoy), fascinating archeological sites. I could distantly acknowledge the beauty of my surroundings, but I was just not feeling any of it. Like a heavy and distorting invisible veil between me and the world.
(I might get downvoted for saying this) Sounds like something I heard in a TV conmercial, back when they barely knew what that meant. It's not a loss of things you once enjoyed, it's having your happiness ripped from you.
Having lived with mental illness for 30+ years I'd say that's fairly accurate, at least for my own experience. From what other people have told me some felt a gradual tapering off of joy, but for others it was like someone flipped a switch and you just went numb or fell smack into depression. Depends on the person and the disorder.
Load More Replies...That happened to me. I only ever experienced the tiniest, fleeting moments of happiness or pleasure before the depression killed it stone dead. Nothing was fun any more, everything was pointless. It was as if something inside me had died.
When I was in my deepest depression, I just couldn't get my family to understand how bad it was or why I couldn't just not be depressed. I told my dad I hadn't even read a book in months (when I'm feeling okay I can blaze through a book easily in a weekend, but I probably read five or six a month). He said, "oh, I cant imagine that" and I said, "exactly!.
People's interests can change over the years; I gave up attending an annual convention that I used to enjoy, because the politics behind it all became unacceptable. Why not ASK "Why don't you do X anymore?"
It's not pretending. I had terrible depression about 12 years ago, the symptoms lasted for several years. Everything I used to enjoy didn't do anything for me. I would go through the motions and get nothing for it. The problem is that your mind really wants to get those little dopamine hits back so you start looking for things that can make you feel better. I'm so glad I never got into d***s or alcohol because I would have become an addict to get that feeling back. I ended up hiking a lot and and that time working things out while being in nature helped me get better. I wish I wasn't a dumb a*s and got professional help sooner. I wasted years of my life to a disease that had treatment.
Load More Replies...But it's important to address these concerns, because Lau says noticing the signs early on can ultimately save someone’s life. "Reaching out and offering support may prevent further struggle and increased risk of harm or even suicide," he noted. "At times, your loved one may be unaware of the impact of their poor mental health, on themselves or you. Constructively sharing your concerns may enlighten them and encourage them to seek the appropriate help."
Look for the guy that is constantly doing things for other people. This guy is super nice. He goes out of his way to make others happy. He is a good listener. He gives really good advice. He picks others up when they are down.
And that guy…… that guy right there…… is really….. really….. struggling.
Yes... this was me. The thing that breaks you the most, is that the person you pick up, kicks you down afterwards
I knew a guy who was exactly that. You just instantly liked him because he was so friendly and cheery and always there to help. And then one day he was just gone. Forever.
"Anyone can be affected by poor mental health; we all have bad days. However, creating healthy lifestyle patterns can contribute to maintaining a positive mindset," Lau added. "Some good tips to do this include: setting time aside for self-care, like going for a walk in a park or nature, journaling or spending time on a hobby; sleeping for at least 7 hours a night; eating well, and drinking plenty of water; exercising regularly, whether it’s going to the gym or a 20-minute walk; prioritizing a balance between work and life; and always share your feelings with those you trust."
Messy/dirty house. Not all people with messy houses are mentally ill, but if the state of a friend’s house is continuously deteriorating and /or simple tasks (like throwing away cans) are left undone, it’s a big sign. Sometimes someone who is struggling will clean the fridge and wash clothes but be unable to throw away mail, or pick up trash. It’s hard to explain.
When I was struggling with depression normal cleaning did get really hard but I could occasionally struggle through it, but what was pretty much impossible was paying bills. Not because I didn't have money, it was just this weird mental block. I pay my bills online at home and it isn't a difficult process but I still couldn't do it.
I knew this, but you didn’t have to say it, man. Leave my unopened mail out of it, forget about the dryer lint I pile up and throw away maybe every two weeks, and ignore the dirty sock on the floor I keep just stepping over while thinking, “I should really pick that up.”
You even bother to pick up the sock? Mine stay there until I am finally going to get it into the washing machine. And sometimes after several loads.
Load More Replies...I always feel overwhelmed about my inability to keep a neat house. I get depressed because it's messy, and it's messy because I'm depressed. Anyone else feel thus way?
I don't ride a bicycle. This right here is my vicious cycling. Those vicious cycles then don't get you anywhere like a bike does.
Load More Replies...When I have been through some particularly bad times, I let the house and the garden get messy. I was still going to work, looking after my kids, paying the bills, keeping my general appearance tidy, and on the surface I appeared to be OK but I quite simply didn't have the energy to do things like housework. It's not that I didn't want to, I just didn't have the strength.
I've been the same, minus the kids. I dealed with work, being somewhat presentable there and everything around it. But when I got home, every ounce of my strength was already used and I had nothing left.
Load More Replies...I was in that p[lace a few years ago and when I look back I can't believe how I couldn't take the trash out for months, not cook, do laundry..... but still managed to go to work, I didn't realise at the time that I was depressed
Yes, I am still trying to pull myself out of that place. I think I compartmentalize work because work doesn't seem to be a problem. Its when I'm at home, I think I get exhausted by pretending at work all day and then at home I can just let it go so I do.
Load More Replies...THIS. My clothes stayed on a big, messy pile on the table for a few years. I only got what I needed to wear from the pile. As I got in therapy, the pile started to get smaller. I used to fold them "one at a time" (a towel, a blouse etc.), and even this seemed hard to do. I now regret I don't have "before" and "after" photos.
fold laundry? you fold laundry? why fold a towel, if you want to put it in the closet, just shove them in all a mess. If it even gets to the closet. And I don't fold any clothes.
Load More Replies...Water droplets somehow feel like acid, and the constant dripping burn my skin, no matter if the water is cold or warm.. it hurts. Even breathing hurts.Sunlight gives me headaches and I just can't stand noise. Everything hurts
Load More Replies...Yeah, I was diagnosed with ADHD several years ago. But I still just call myself lazy.
Load More Replies...I think you've explained it very well. The only thing I'd add is that what you do can be based solely on how you feel that day. If you have the energy and the impetus one day, you may do laundry, but it could be 3 weeks before you do it again. Next high period you might clean your kitchen, the next it could be taking out the trash. It all sounds so basic but when you're struggling with a mental illness and even getting out of bed is a challenge, any one of these is a victory. And before anyone comes for me and says anyone who can't do basics like this is lazy, not ill, I'd suggest you break both knees and try to walk it off.
is that kind of victorys we need to learn to embrace and make an effort to have more (i know is hard, and sometimes can even hurt, i really know the feeling of being Exhausted, i am very exhausted, but the helping things need to be reinforced, and it help, trust me, like the honest smile can brigthen our day, some kind words even of ourselfs can help too)
Load More Replies...I do not allow people in my house. When repairmen come, I try to do a little something, but, I just don't know where to start. I'm very apologetic to repairmen who come into my house.
Somebody who's always tired. Especially for high functioning depressives, their home and workspace can be neat and tidy, their bills are paid on time and they are cordial when socializing. But they will always say they are tired. Depression exhaustion runs deep.
I'm tired all the time. Waking up every single morning seems like a daily punishment... It is so tiring
Yep same here. Paying my bills going work sorting kids, animals and what not but I'm still very depressed and tired. Big hug 🫂
Load More Replies...My therapist told me that I expend so much energy "appearing normal" while out dealing with othe people, that of course I'm going to feel exhausted by the time I get home.
True for me too. It took me time to embrace being a weirdo...i mean, an excentric person lol. But hey. I have more fun now. And the people who not worth my energy and effort go away, so is a win or win.
Load More Replies...That's very true. I'm always tired but then I don't sleep well because I'm in pain. I am depressed too, but lack of sleep isn't going to help that either!
Load More Replies...I’m always tired. Even when I sleep, I’m tired. Maybe I should go talk to my doctor
We were also lucky enough to get in touch with registered psychotherapist and life coach Krista Roesler from Psych Company, who discussed this topic with Bored Panda as well.
"Common signs of mental health struggles that people might not be aware of or know to look for include changes in behavior, personality, or emotional expression," the expert shared. "For instance, someone who used to openly share their feelings might become more quiet and distant, while someone who was previously very excitable may become unusually calm. Similarly, a person who was kind and caring might start acting unkind, and someone who seemed sad might appear outwardly content."
Someone who is always stressed out, on edge, and irritable is suddently calm, nonchalant, and doesn't care about c**p anymore.
Check on this person. Maybe they got a girlfriend/boyfriend or a big promotion or finished a huge project. But also - maybe they've given up and have an *exit plan* in place now.
I was told by a doctor years ago that the most dangerous time is when you're coming OUT of the valley of your depression. You're still depressed but you're gaining a little energy back, you're getting back some of your ability to plan and take action. That's the most dangerous time for a depressed person.
When things get so painfully dark mentally that I come close to executing one of my plans, I typically resort to self-harm... Physical pain dulls the mental pain enough to go numb and keep existing for other people and my pets sake... I'm not encouraging anyone to do that, but for anyone who does it, know you aren't alone.
I imagine (since I was lucky enough not to get to that point) that deciding to check out early would give you an intense feeling of relief. Finally, there's something you can do to stop the pain. Finally, you're in control again.
THIS!! If a person who was very depressed, suddenly seems really happy, please talk to them! It usually is a sign that they've decided to end it.
"Other signs include emotional distancing from people and activities they once enjoyed, leading to increased isolation from others and a loss of interest in hobbies or work," Krista continued. "They might also experience physical symptoms such as headaches, body aches, or upset stomachs."
"Changes in sleeping patterns are another important indicator. Look for signs such as sleeping too much, too little, experiencing insomnia, or persistent fatigue," the expert says. "Additionally, certain risk factors can signal underlying issues, including financial problems, legal troubles, trauma, chronic pain, health issues, relationship problems, or substance abuse."
I struggle with major depression. I can answer this for myself, but as always, this won’t appear in everyone.
1. I use humor a lot. Like every conversation. It’s a quick shot of dopamine to make people laugh and it avoids talking about myself. Kills two birds with one stone. My therapist said one time after not seeing him for six months “I see you are still using humor as a way to not feel your emotions.” Haha. F**k you.
2. I am purposely vague on what I’ve been doing. Like “oh I’ve been working and hanging with the kids.” Or “nothing much just the same old s**t.” This can be easily interpreted as “I’ve been holed up in my room not showering, maybe crying, convincing myself that everyone hates me.”
3. Random outbursts of negativity. Sometimes veiled as jokes. I recently blurted out to my sister while driving “nobody has any empathy anymore!” At a driver. It made people laugh.
3. I constantly make excuses on why I can’t go somewhere. It’s usually because I’m tired, or busy with the kids, but in reality I’m avoiding having to give an update on my (distorted view) s****y little life while everyone talks how amazing everything is.
There are others but these were the first I could think of.
Edit: If anyone feels the same as this feel free to send me a message. I’ve learned that getting through it with someone can be extremely helpful. (Males preferably. I need more guy friends.).
The edit is cute. How do you and others here even maintain a relationship to have a family though (serious question)? I can't even maintain a daily friendship. Work is extremely difficult seeing the same faces everyday and being "on" and pretending to give even the slightest of f***s because in my world, none of this matters and am just visiting this planet. Honestly, if it weren't for my dog, wouldn't even bother. Ever. Seriously look at people all the time and wonder "how" because basic human interaction eludes me. I wish i knew how to human. And yes my space is always a mess but i try really hard not to be. Non mess makes me feel weird.
I used to be very very very shy. Would avoid human interation. My foray into socialbility was to comment to someone in the grocery store. "that is a beautiful blouse" or "funny t-shirt". Or I would ask about something they have put on the conveyor belt. And now cats, I can talk about cats until the cows come home. (can't really say anything about cows, though.)
Load More Replies...Whomever posted this, yes I feel you. I'm new to how to respond your post privately. I get you though. I frequently tell people that I'm busy for any function especially in dealing with family or friends get togethers. I will even lock my doors and pretend I'm not there when people knock on the door. Family often mistakes my comments as just being me or he's quick witted. Far from it.
When someone knocks I get really quiet and pretend that no one is home. The very few friends I have know to just text me from their car and I will come out.
Load More Replies...The "I'm too tired to go out" is a very common excuse I make. I just don't have the energy, or can't handle the thought of going outside of my home.
Yes,, people think I'm so funny. But making people laugh is one of the only joys I have in life. That and my cats.
The vague part really hits hard. Mostly because I don't often remember what happened in the last week because of memory block.
Yeah, vague is the best! And with me, instead of say something about playing with kids, with me, it's my cats.
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Common disassociation, just seeing someone disconnect from reality white sitting at a bench or in a friend group just breaks my heart.
And we often don't know we've disconnected. 😞 It wasn't until my mid-30's that I noticed that chunks of time were missing and I'd been staring at the same spot on the floor for who knows how long.
Transitioning into adulthood I realized that I couldn’t remember much from my childhood except for obvious details like going to school, studying, etc. I struggled with depression with my first suïcide attempt in my preteens. I’ve lost a lot of my memories to depression but I guess disassociation too probably played a part. It doesn’t help when people who’re supposed to help me remember stuff start twisting the stories. I do remember a lot of my traumatic experiences only for people to tell me that I’m remembering them wrong.
Load More Replies...Been there too. My coworkers response was to gossip and badmouth me, for "being crazy". As if I didn't have enough struggle already.
Some people suck, but "being crazy" is relative, it took me years to have understanding of the Addams Family, and most of that it was because when i start to talk with myself (not in the psychotic way lol, in the therapy way i mean) i learn that i am excentric af, and that is ok, and only my opinion about it was important, there can be people who understand, people who can't understand it, or don't want to. In the end you need to learn to take your own opinion first, being kind with yourself, and learn to let go the people and comments who don't worth your effort or time or energy.
Load More Replies...thats not normal? i do this a lot, and its not that i'm depressed or anything, i just literally daze out sometimes.
It is anormal thing, don't worry to "disconect" or have lapsus of blank time with yourself, in therapy i learn that there is a difference between disconect (very reason behind it, most bening or inocuos) and dissasociation (your mind enter in safemode or hibernation mode because it feel or a danger or a damage)
Load More Replies...Yeah, sometimes going on mental vacation is just more entertaining than whatever you're doing in real life. XD
Load More Replies...Disconnecting, yes. Disassociating, no (unless there's someone caring enough to make sure you're safe while it's happening. I'm here for my SO, but it braks my heart to think of the bad things he has gone through in the past because of his mental illness.
Load More Replies...I got depressed early in high school and now there are two years nearly missing from my memory... it sucks how much I lost
Krista noted that some other concerning signs to be aware of are: "expressing feelings of guilt, shame, or hopelessness; neglecting personal hygiene and abandoning healthy habits, such as a balanced diet and regular exercise; being less attentive to medication schedules and failing to manage chronic health conditions, like diabetes; showing indifference toward declining performance at work or school; increasingly avoiding social situations without a clear reason; heightened use of alcohol or worsening drug abuse; engaging in reckless behaviors, such as unsafe driving; and making unusual purchases, like items that could be used for self-harm, which aren’t typically needed."
Having trouble getting out of bed, having low energy. Many people are quick to call it lazy but really we are struggling to have any energy to just wake up and exist in a world where life hasn't been kind.
I open my eyes and feel sad, because it is another day to pretend to be normal. Im so tired.. why am I still opening my eyes daily? Why? When would this end?
The exhaustion from just trying to be ok like “normal, non-depressive” people takes such a toll…
Load More Replies...The last few weeks I've had a lot of things other people were depending on me to do, so my usual days off of bed rotting haven't been able to happen (since every task takes at least 3 times longer to complete than even slow standards would consider acceptable...) 2 weeks of desperately trying to function have already left me totally burned out and getting physically sick... Reminded me that days in bed are the only way I've maintained bare-minimum existence. Most days its enough energy for one thing--eating food, taking a shower, running an errand. It's incredibly annoying
Whenever you ask them how they're doing, the answer is *always* 'ok' or 'I'm fine, just a bit tired."
Everyone has sh**tier days. Everyone will rant once in a while. But not when depressed.
You don't want to be even more of a burden than you feel you already are. You don't want to admit to yourself or to others or to both that you are actually struggling with everyday things. You don't want to always be complaining. You don't want to look like a failure. You don't believe the question is asked in earnest; why should anyone care anyway? Or you simply feel nothing, but that's not exactly an acceptable answer now, is it.
So 'ok' it is.
Yes, this is me! I'm never "good," or "well" - just "fine" or "ok". I had to explain my little code to my wife: If I say I'm "fine" with a little head nod, or my voice goes up a bit, then I'm actually fine. If I say I'm "fine" with a shrug, or my voice drops, then I'm not. Of course, I also can't shake the feeling that when people ask how you're doing, it's just polite conversation, not an actual question.
I don't trouble about failure, but I'm terrified of dumping on people who are just as badly off or worse than me. But I don't much lie, so "fine, just a bit tired" seems to work, especially when I know I don't look right and people have picked up on it.
It's a bit dependant on your culture too. I'm a Finn, and I would never say I'm fine or good if I'm not exceptionally happy (which happens really rarely. So ok is the normal basic answer around here and it actually tells nothing about how you actually feel. But as a depressed person, I really agree with the point in here. I would never say anything "less good" than ok.
Completely true.. why announcing publicly the big failure I am? I'm just fine as it is
You. Are. Not. A. Failure! You're struggling right now. That doesn't mean you've failed, it means you're working harder that most people. And you can do it. Good luck from a random Internet stranger.
Load More Replies...We also asked Krista what we should do if we notice any of these concerning behaviors in loved ones. "If you're concerned someone might be suicidal, start by expressing your worry gently and directly, such as saying, 'I’ve noticed you’ve been struggling a lot lately, and I’m really worried about you,'" she told Bored Panda. "Create a safe space for them to share their feelings without judgment, and encourage them to seek help from a mental health professional."
At least in men, social withdrawal is often the first and largest symptom of depression. We can put up a really good facade, but if you notice one of the boys not showing up to social functions as much, and no one is hearing from him, check in on him for f***s sake.
This. That person was me. The problem is that if you cancel too many times, you also stop getting invites. Another friend is doing this but using her diagnosis and disability to manipulate things to her advantage. This means we have ended up going months without seeing other people so now the invite is there, it's up to her to take it.
No one even noticed i have no social life anymore. Ot is like o never existed. So i figured out I'm better without everyone else
this is true regardless of gender. but this is also touchy... it could be they are introverted and have always felt that way and is now just realising they would rather spend time at home than spend money being out. im not saying don't check in on them, absolutely check on them, but also consider other options if you haven't seen your friend in a while.
What is the lonesome introvert to do? Problem here is that during my worst episodes, I didn't really have a social group to withdraw from.
People expect 'sadness' or, if they actually have known someone with depression, they may expect some of the other symptoms listed here. But men, in particular, may present with anger. Could be explosive or not but it will be a change of character for them and be noticeable..
Everything takes forever. I take hours to reply to texts, hours to get out of bed, hours to go to the store.
Yeah I literally have to some mental judo just to convince myself to go and get some food .
Me rn.. going all the way downstairs is hard man
Load More Replies...Same here but once I manage to do even the simplest task for just a little while I feel good about myself
Thats the way i use too, take the little victorys as victorys, embrace the good feelings and keep it to the darker moments
Load More Replies...It's depressing to keep track of, but often the simplest things will be on my to-do list for MONTHS before something forces me to do it... Day to day things take forever too, so things like breaking down and taking out ever-accumulating Amazon boxes and the like might only happen a couple times a year? If it makes anyone feel less alone, there are a lot of very basic life tasks I haven't been able to do for years, like wash dishes or some non-critical laundry items... It makes me hate myself for being that way, despite my best efforts. Though I doubt I'm the only one....
'Going to the grocery store? I only go on my way home from work. I work two days a week, so the other days I do just stay home. Even therapy over zoom means I don;t have to leave my house for that.
Hygiene is a huge one, noticing they only ever have their hair up, or rumpled clothing, if they normally wear makeup and suddenly stop for no reason. People normally notice when it gets to not showering but it can be in small ways.
Wait are we not supposed to do that?
Load More Replies...For me it was always putting my hair up and it became matted and I ended up having to have head it all shaved off, peoples reaction to my new 'look' was a real wake up call
I've thought about shaving my head, but, I do not have a smooth surface on my head/scalp. Very noticably not normal.
Load More Replies...those are symptoms for women. for men: sweatpants (most likely worn several days), tattered t shirt. not eating well. not showering or shaving.
I have worn my hair in a pony tail for a very very long time. And for the last pull-through, I don't even pull my hair all of the way through, so they can't see if it doesn't look like it needs attention, pony taills can only do so much to hide how badly your your hair has been taken care of.
Yeah I do a messy bun thing when I should have washed my hair but didn’t and have to be around others. I don’t know why I need to psych myself up to wash my hair… Oh, yeah, depression.
Load More Replies...I've clearly been doing that for years... I only own clothes that don't wrinkle, since they rarely leave the dryer before being worn... I haven't had a proper haircut in 10 years so my awful hack jobs warrant keeping my hair up, I shower only when I have to leave the house and encounter other humans, and I do it right before I have to leave the house so I don't pick up any cat hair or bad smells from my disgusting apartment... Fake it till ya make it I guess, my only goal is to not be noticably gross or disheveled to the point of offending people.
"If necessary, ask directly if they’re thinking about suicide—it’s important to discuss these thoughts openly. Offer practical support, like helping them find resources or accompanying them to appointments," the expert continued. "Develop a safety plan together, remove means for self-harm if possible, and maintain regular contact to combat isolation. If there’s immediate risk, contact emergency services right away. Lastly, educate yourself about mental health to better support them and ensure they get the professional help they need."
Thoughtlessness, when I was in a deeeep depression and a few other smaller episodes I am under such a black cloud and demented headspace that I’ll forget birthdays, plans, leaving things out, things like that.
Yup. My sister had a screaming meltdown at me because she felt I didn't contact her enough to see how she's doing. I didn't realize it had been weeks since I had talked to her, in my head it was just a couple of days ago. We no longer speak, she has narcissistic personality disorder & I just couldn't take the screaming & guilt tripping & her whole "I'm such a victim" attitude anymore.
I used to take such pride in giving people greeting cards for everything. Their birthday, holidays, I had a stockpile because I would find the perfect funny card for each particular person. Then the stockpile slowly went unused, and they piled up in a big box. (Banker's Box in file folders)
When, without major shifts in their life, they suddenly become too busy to do things they used to attend to regularly. Such as hobbies or social appointments.
I went through a stretch of severe depression in my early twenties and did this constantly. When people asked why I wasn’t around as much, I’d just tell them I was busy. What I was busy doing was wallowing around in my apartment being absolutely miserable. An ex of mine actually caught it and convinced me to try a therapist which wound up being my first step climbing out of that hole, and it took several years.
More than a decade later I noticed a similar behavioral trend happen with one of my colleagues. Great guy, kind of the office clown. Always used to be very engaged with people and was a fixture at happy hours and other things we’d all get together and do. Until he suddenly wasn’t. I tried not to press but eventually did. He broke down and told me he’d been diagnosed with cancer and didn’t want people to know.
This stuff is difficult. We’re all conditioned to hide our hurt. And people can be really good at it.
Also often don't want to be "that person" who drags everyone else down because existence is pain.
Load More Replies...I don't like telling my friends anything. I was feeling...dangerously low at one point... I told a friend. She...ah...blew up at me. Like, it started out as a well-worded kind of 'I don't have the emotional space for this right now,' which I understood and backed off... But then she got on a roll and tore me apart. (I had been cheated on, abruptly broken up with as a result, and as a result of /that/ I needed to find somewhere else to live and he kept my dog. I was too hurt and thrown to fight back.) So, anywho--I no longer tell any of my friends anything. I got the message.
They weren't really your friend. I'm so sorry, but they were a self-absorbed jerk. I hope that you find your people, the ones that treat you like family, and love you the way the way you deserve. 🤗
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Giving things away.
Especially important and meaningful pieces.
Also, giving away your resources (time, money) - usually to charities - to such an extent, that you get into debts and collapse with fatigue. I guess it made me feel worthy and appreciated, which filled in - for a while - the emptiness I had inside.
Wow, I didn't know this. I feel like I was almost addicted to giving. I donate more money than I can really afford.
Load More Replies...I had a friend who happens to be a therapist ask me "why are you giving things away? Are you okay?" Fortunately the truth was I was just de-cluttering, but it's sweet that she asked.
"Here take this, I don't need it any more." You don't need this chair anymore? Well, I never have anybody over to sit in it, soooo
I just don't care about things anymore. i dont want to be surrounded by things collecting dust. Better get rid of everything
As for why it's so important to be on the lookout for these behaviors, Krista says it's sometimes the people you least expect who are struggling the most. "There have been cases where someone you would never suspect was struggling with mental health issues has wanted to end their life," she noted. "People can often disguise their mental health struggles very well. Highly successful and educated individuals often show reluctance to seek mental health help."
In a social encounter where all others are sharing their troubles, they stay silent and distant. They never mention anything wrong and when asked directly they play their answers into a corner. Sure, it may just be them doing ok, but it also could be not seeing their problems as worth the attention of others, a common depression situation.
For me it’s more of knowing how my problems don’t relate to the others’ problems. They’ll be complaining about being stressed at school or work while I’ll be experiencing the same but on top of battling demons that are constantly trying to kill me. You can’t really just offer that as your answer 🤷🏻♀️
Usually what happens is that you'll say something, and then someone else will start talking about something completely different without even responding to what you said.
Everyone complaining about such minor inconvenients... Why would I bring dark and painful issues out Talking about what happened to my doesn't help because it brings up again all the pain and memories and the wound flares up again and bleeds unstoppable. So I don't talk. Silence can be a medicine
usually when depressed you dont even want to be in the social encounter. you try to avoid it by any means necessary.
Joking masks pain.
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Joking is such a strong indication and I know because I do it. I struggle with a lot of childhood trauma and have very little understanding of how to form meaningful relationships as a result. Whenever I’m in social settings I constantly joke around. Silly puns, crude humor, whatever I can do to get a laugh. It keeps us from being vulnerable with others while seeming ok on the surface. But I have to fight the impulse to make a bad joke or do something silly when my wife goes in for a hug. I’ve started noticing just how bad it is lately but it’s so hard to stop once that becomes your mask.
Yep, but here's an important clue: Do you use self-deprecating humor? A little bit is prosocial. It says "I can take a joke, I'm not overly serious, I'm not a threat". Too much is off-putting and is seen as a low self-esteem.
True, I have a friend who does that , and her self esteem is lower than a snake's belly button.
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Constant anger.
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Typical, yet often unknown, symptome for depression in men.
Just more common for men because societally, anger is the only negative emotion they're allowed to show.
Load More Replies...Yes! This is better now, but when I started working full time (added stress to undiagnosed long-term depression) I would have angry outbursts all the time. My wife admitted that it used to scare her. (I directed my anger towards *things*, not people, but still...). Anger and rage is such a common symptom in men that it should be included in diagnostic criteria. Substance use too. Men with depression are highly likely to have substance use problems, but these are treated as separate things.
Ah, that's how I know when I'm coming out of it, I start getting angry and raging.
Constant anger in men is the number one sign of sexual frustration. Sexual frustration in men is one of the common causes of depression. Some common antidepressants reduce the intensity of the sexual drive, which helps enormously.
When I was depressed I didn't realise I was depressed. I thought I was just angry all the time.
This was me!! I was very angry and almost in a rage at least once a week. Someone suggested it might because of depression. So I did a little research on it and decided to see a shrink. It was the best thing I ever did!
"People often hide their mental health struggles because they don't want to burden others or feel that masking their issues has become normal. This tendency to hide feelings can make it difficult for them to share what's really going on," the psychotherapist says.
"There's a common myth that if someone appears beautiful, popular, or successful, they must be happy, but that's not always true. Many people who seem successful or outwardly happy, like Matthew Perry, Kate Spade, and Robin Williams, may actually be struggling with deep issues. The stigma around depression and seeking mental health help often leads individuals to keep their struggles and suicidal thoughts to themselves."
Keeping conversations very surface-level.
Constantly redirecting the conversation to be about the other person/people to keep from talking about themselves.
Answering questions with very basic answers and immediately redirecting away to something else.
I guess the silver lining here is that we aren't alone in feeling this way. I hope each of you start to find things that make you happy and can climb out of whatever hole you find yourself in. And I hope I can, too. We can do this.
Yeah, why would I want to talk to people? Why should I tell them about my issues only for them to say "that doesn't sound that bad.. just cheer up.. don't be sad.. I'm sorry to hear it... It doesn't help, so better talk about the weather or the Olympics
Oh, CHEER UP! I hate that. And I was asked if I tried Gingko Biloba.
Load More Replies...i dont know about this one.... some people just do not want to share
One that I think I missed was a buddy of mine that was a part of the same sport group showed up in person to one of our games to say that he was busy and wasn’t going to be around for most of the season. I felt it was strange because who comes in person to announce their absence?
The week or so later he went missing in the woods and they found his body 3 days later. I don’t know if it was an accident or s*icide and I don’t want to reveal too many details of it, but if your gut says something's off, then go with your gut.
But maybe your gut has no inkling. That happened to me at university. I had worked with this guy a lot, and I thought we were becoming friends. One day he invited me home and at the end of the evening he asked that we be more than friends. I said no as gently as I could and went home. Next morning he was found dead. I don't even know it was because of my rejection, but I felt terrible.
A sudden change in weight, both losing or gaining some.
This can also be when they recover too. I lost 25lbs. post-depression without trying.
I lost a lot of weight without trying too - turned out the antidepressants really can make you fat! No, I didn't change what I ate or drank either.
Load More Replies...I always lose weight when I'm going through something bad. I had bad postpartum depression after my first baby and lost my pregnancy weight plus 25 pounds more without trying or even realizing it. And all I kept hearing from everyone was how great I looked, as I've always been a bit plump and suddenly I was not. That was awful to hear. Like, hey, sorry you're depressed but you look amazing! Now whenever I notice weight loss in friends, I ask if they're ok. The majority of the time they aren't. Sometimes people are at their "healthiest weight" when the rest of them is at its unhealthiest.
"When clients describe their lives as perfect or their childhood as ideal, it often signals that they may have a pattern of suppressing their true feelings and avoiding discussing their challenges and traumas," Krista noted.
"Holding in these emotions can create a heavy burden. Sharing feelings and not facing challenges alone can greatly help in managing them better and facilitate healing. Those who end their lives often see it as a solution to feelings of helplessness and hopelessness," she explained. "This usually stems from a lack of support and unhealthy coping mechanisms, underscoring the importance of reaching out for help and finding healthier ways to address life's difficulties."
You haven’t heard from them in six months. But your ego says that you shouldn’t contact them because they didn’t contact you.
Got nothing to do with ego. Has everything to do with not bothering people.
I don't burn bridges. I just let them rot from disrepair and collapse into the river.
Yes. I lost people to this. Am nearly alone now. And can't do anything against it.
Speaking from my own personal experience:
- decline in work ethic
- poor hygiene/cleanliness
- irritable
- if you have a roommate: hiding in their room
- bad acne
- sleeping a lot
- poor communication
- more negative than usual
- lack of interest in their favorite things/hobbies.
Living or work environment is in chaos or disarray. No one likes to hear or talk about this but . . . yeah.
"When you're in a wealthy, healthy country with a successful career and supportive family but still feel depressed, the solutions can seem less straightforward and there may appear to be fewer options for improvement," Krista shared. "In contrast, someone who is poor and facing significant stress might still hold onto hope that their situation can improve, as they see their struggles as more directly changeable. The contrast lies in how each person perceives their ability to change their circumstances and find hope for a better future."
Stock answers on how they are doing.
They don't. They just ask casually. They don't even listen if you try to elaborate.
Load More Replies...It's just easier to say, "fine thanks" because when you start to tell someone how you're really feeling, you get comments like, "cheer up", "snap out of it", "pull yourself together", "what have YOU got to be depressed about?" or "there are people far worse off than you, you know."
Yep got that last one today along with just for once it would be nice if you answered with I'm doing really well thanks.
Load More Replies...I think we all do that to a degree, though. I guess it depends on who’s asking. I’ll ask folks which answer they prefer sometimes: “Do you want the real answer, or the ‘Fine, and you?’ Answer?” 😉
Irritability. It's everything other then you but it's hard to see that when someone is treating you negativley. Its overlooked as a symptom of other issues. Including depression, cptsd, and stress response.
They stop responding to group texts because they can't handle social interaction.
When my girlfriend is stressed or uncomfortable with a situation (such as someone's kind gesture towards her), she over compensates by being overly generous back.
It's both cute and saddening. It's cute that such a small thing (such as walking her out to her car when she's leaving my apartment to ensure she's safe in the parking lot at night) means so much to her that she feels like she has to do something big and generous in return. But it's also extremely sad that she's been traumatized so much in her life that she doesn't think she's worth the 2 minutes it takes to walk her to her car.
It's also hard getting her to ask for things, but I am getting better at knowing what she wants and getting it for her. It's gonna take time, but she's getting better now.
And she's also helped me tremendously with my mental health and I am extremely grateful to have her.
These people who talk about having girlfriend or boyfriend. How does that even happen? Asking for a friend.
Become very obsessive about one singular, reliable source of joy.
Can be a scary thing when one becomes that singular reliable source for another. Terrifying in fact.
Watching funny stuff on tv used to be a reliable source of laughing and feeling good. Now tv just is something I watch to pass the time in 30 or 60 minute increments.
They're mostly by themselves even at social gatherings.
They are exceptionally chipper and upbeat, just so they keep everyone around them happy and don’t get left behind as an inconvenience.
They will also always ask how are you doing, in hope you will ask them the same in return.
They stay indoors more often than usual.
They are kinder to others way more than to themselves. Most of them don’t want others to be as badly hurt as themselves and people don’t realize this as often as they should.
This is the ONLY reason I have to not k.i.lling myself. I know what c.rap is left behind after a s.u.i.c.i.d.e because my mother did it and I never, ever would put anyone through that s.hit. So i have to drag myself, but I'm so tired. Just hope this will end someday. Soon
U have been posting a lot of comments and i really hope u find the help u need and deserve, therapy, meds etc.. theres hope n the bp community is here for u<3
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If the friend/family member /coworker that keeps ties with everyone and checks up on everyone consistently just stops or starts doing it less. People usually assume this person is always doing great as they are often the cheerful one and the one others come to when they're down. Problem is, when it comes time for them to deal with things, they don't want to inconvenience anyone so they keep quiet. Then, when they start not reaching out as often, or stop, it results in them worrying that no one cares, or that they're just forgotten about, putting them further into a dark place.
A simple check in on someone you haven't heard from in a while goes way further and can be more impactful thank you think.
I have so few friends, and am NC with family, the amount of people to check up on me is very very low.
When they don't interact "correctly" using idle chitchat.
What I mean is that if you ask "How you doing," "How was your weekend," etc. would have at worst a stock answer. If they pause to think about it, they're likely *not* ok, regardless of their eventual answer.
The pause is just me figuring out if I know you well enough to give a real answer or not, that's all. And, if I do decide on a real answer, figuring out how to summarize it when you have alexithymia (don't know what you're feeling). edit: it's also hard once you figure out if you should actually answer
yeah see this is why some people do not like other people.... you asking that question to me means you want an answer. if you dont give 2 shits about my weekend, or how i'm doing, don't ask.
Personally- I tend to grow a beard and get unkempt hair when I feel in turmoil- my coworkers tend to just joke that I'm looking scruffy- but in my head I'm just like "teehee yea thanks, I feel like I'm dying".
Anxious, being binary, impulsive, and controlling in making decisions. A telltale sign of somebody who is losing control is how you can see them try very hard to keep everything around them under control.
Ive dated this exact person and it was not pleasant. Not sure he was depressed though. Mean mean man. The kind of person that makes you want to throw your own self off a cliff just to escape them. And the kind of person who would throw you off themselves if you ever tried to leave. 10/10 do not recommend.
That just sounds like anxiety/OCD, not depression. Speaking from experience here. Or maybe it's also autism and ADHD. My brain's a mess. But yeah, anxiety and control are...you want to have control because you think if you have control you can fix the problems. Spoiler: you can't. Impulsivity is common in ADHD. Etc.
They do not make or talk about plans in the future. They tell you to do things and encourage your future but they never talk about theirs. Often the first signs of someone being s*icidal.
When people ask me about vacations, I tell them pet-sitting is my vacation. I get to stay in different (cleaner) house, yay!
Being easy going but not energized or enthusiastic. More of a "going through the motions" and "not making a fuss" vs excited to participate and active in the discussion or activity - an observer vs a participant.
See someone like this, take a moment to check in and have a real conversation.
Yep. A few people have commented that I'm laidback or an easygoing guy, but really, most of the time, I just don't give a s**t.
The problem with my "going through the motions" and "not making a fuss" is that not many people see me. I have so few friends, that this would not even be a thing.
I can only tell you that the big “red flag” to other people in my life has been discussing awful things with perfect equanimity. Like “how‘s you week been?” And I replied with “oh yeah fine, I got hit by a semi trailer a couple of days ago, but it was alright, I set the bones ok myself and there wasn’t any legal issues. Car’s crushed though, so there that. But what’s insurance for right?”
I have literally said that. I thought I was ok. Same as “well you know you think he raped me but I don’t care, so no harm right?”
No. Not right. You may have brushed this off perfectly fine, but that’s just you. There may be other bits that disagree. Deny them, and you’re ALL in a world of s**t. Acknowledge it. All of it.
It's when suddenly they are very unbothered. It happens when people give up because they literally can't care about anything anymore or nothing they do pay off. That person may commit soon.
Or it could be they don't want to waste their energy on things that don't matter in the end. There are only so many hours in the day.
Its weird. I had a friend simply post, "Anyone know anything about handguns? Looking to get one for self protection." He lived in a metro so no flags went off. He shot himself in the heart.
I had another friend who was the kindest, funniest most happy-go-lucky person you could imagine. He would reach out to you when things felt off about your post and provide you access to support. He couldn't defeat his own darkness though, and took his own life.
To anyone out there suffering, one of the wisest things that has stayed with me and helped me get through my darkest times was something one of my teachers told me: “Depression and all those nasty things you’re feeling are temporary but s.u.i.c.i.d.e is permanent.” Depression/mental health issues may not be “temporary” per se, but they can get better or change with time. Either way, you’re not going to feel that way forever, but if you’re dead, that’s not going to change
umm, I am older than one would think, and I've felt bad for as long as I can remember. For me, the depression never ends, and that permanent you mention sounds fine to me.
Load More Replies...Replaying the same video games or binge watching the same tv shows.
This isn't necessarily a sign of depression. Often folks who are on the austism scale will do this too. There is no 'surprise' in watching the same shows or playing the same games. There is a comforting routine, they already know how things will go.
Reading the same books, because o don't have the mental energy to understand or enjoy something new. At least when I find myself staring the same page for hours, or completing a whole chapter without realizing how , I don't feel guilty because I already know what the story was about.
I don't even read books any more. I read good magazines (science, environmental, non-celebrity stuff). I can't stick with a whole book. I need something I can read in one sitting. The only book I do is my crossword puzzle book. NY Times has great puzzles.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I watch the same cooking shows all of the time. I just sit there watching Public Television to pass the time. I'm never gonna cook that stuff, I'm just passing the time.
I’ve noticed that when friends change their social media habits such as posting stories consistently that something is going on in their life and I ask if all is ok.
When they have an excuse every time you try to see them! I think that’s often because they have no motivation to get ready and socialise. So check on your friends that always seem to have an excuse!!!
A person who usually is reliable suddenly always having last minute excuses not to meet is an other one.
Luckily my lack of motivation to do stuff with my friends is OK, since I don't have a lot of friends.
An excuse? I dont even have the energy to reply. So check on your friend that go dark too. :)
They get defensive when you simply ask if they’re alright or try to pry in on any behaviors you may have noticed.
I haven't even realised, but I do this constantly. People closest to me know not to ask about my mental state. Sometimes physical well-being is the same, but sometimes it's not. It's easy to tell if you nose is less stuffy or if you less feverish, but anything requiring deeper thought or explanation is a no.
Fake smiles.... I'm good at it.
I sometimes feel myself arranging my face into a smile before I enter a room, especially in front of my parents
I don't do that at all and people then think I'm mean. Which I'm not. Just not mentally in it!
I completely stopped smiling. I don't even remember how to and it feels so weird when I try to pretend a smile
When someone consistently overextends themselves to help others. It’s something I still struggle with all the time. I feel like I lack agency and the tools needed to make a healthy and long-term-viable change to my own life, so I help other people around me with their issues until I get overwhelmed and start sacrificing my own needs to make sure that the people I’m helping have their own needs met. If you have any friends that do this, especially if they have autism like myself, please make sure to help them from time to time with their own struggles, I’ve met a few grand people in my time that were always willing to help anyone but themselves and it’s partially because of that fact that they aren’t here with us anymore. Being the one who gives help but never receives it makes one feel bitter, depressed, and alone.
Sudden change in that persons typical behaviour either erratic or subtle. Zones out most of the time. My main giveaway is that sudden drop in emotions while being out with others.
i just don't feel emotions anymore and i forgot how to fake them... Maybe i just got tired of faking them really
The isolation. They lose perspective and begin to think people don't reach out bc they don't care or they are not worthy. In reality, they can just as easily reach out to friends when they need one.
Add in the lack of interest in hobbies, etc. and low confidence and it becomes a mental battle that you feel you are losing everyday.
Wellll....sometimes our efforts to reach out are met with silence or "I'm really slammed right now" or whatever. I at least have a low tolerance for rejection, and reaching out *always* comes with a risk of rejection. That's the last thing I need when I'm already feeling down.
The dead gaze.
Sometimes it's drowning out the idiocy around and focusing on what matters to me.
My go to reply to "How are you?" is "Could be better, could be worse." Although, I'm not sure how this is perceived.
Super super happy and excited about really normal stuff.
They are over faking happy and have lost sight of reality. Because they are depressed.
Casual drinking. Society has a way of dismissing alcohol use, but if you drink all the time, you have a problem.
Being the first one in and the last one to leave can be a sign. Not always, but I used to work ungodly hours when my home life was bad. My mother was in an abusive relationship and nearly lived at her job.
Work has always been my comfort blanket when I've been going through a difficult time. It's a place where I can have a few hours away from my other problems and it gives me a purpose, a reason to get out of bed. A few years ago I was made redundant from the best job I ever had when I was already going through one of the darkest periods of my life. I shut myself away and couldn't face anybody or anything for weeks.
Needing constant distractions, not wanting to go to dinners but going to the movies is fine.
I've noticed that my ability to consentrate in anything declines so much when I'm having worse time mentally. I love reading, and could read ten hours straight normally, but in bad state I can't get over few pages.
So I play solitaire for hours, rather than reading.
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I actually see this as a sign of loneliness - a sign of someone who just wants to be seen and heard and their humanity to be validated. Not narcissism.
Oh you just made me see someone in a whole new (potential) light. But how do you know which is which? Or are narcissists also depressed? Oh gosh. My wee A.M. brain cant do this right now.
I don't like to talk about myself. What would I say? I'm not going to tell people how F'ing miserable I am.
People who talk about themselves a lot and people who don’t talk about themselves a lot. Gotcha 👍🏻 Everyone is depressed except those people who talk about themselves just enough
Different people can present in different ways- the world isn't black and white- mental health is complicated
Load More Replies...Unkindness. I don't think the majority of people would choose to be unkind if they themselves were in a good place.
I've suffered chronic depression for over 40 years. When I'm having a very DOWN period, I tend to get very annoyed by people's well-meaning but shallow fake-compassion, the "hugs" and "I care", or absolutely the worst is the sanctimonious moralizing: "S*cide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem." I've had depression for 40 years. Trust me. This is not a temporary problem. "Depressed people don't want to die! They just want the pain to stop!" No. I'm pretty sure I'd actually like to die. People who don't have depression wouldn't not understand how I joke and laugh and talk about the importance of love, kindness and compassion ... and yet it's a constant struggle not to check out. The only reason I don't is because unfortunately, I'm well enough to know I'm sick, and I'm well enough to know I would put others in a bad situation, and I'm just not suffering enough to be blind to that. But don't doubt I spend every day in darkness.
I started tearing up because these are my EXACT feelings. Thank you for putting it into words.
Load More Replies...For me it was wishing that I had other people's problems because mine felt insurmountable and there was no end in sight. Lack of energy. I wanted to do stuff but I neither had the strength or inclination. Constantly eating. That immediate feelgood fix from eating my favourite foods would then leave me feeling greedy fat and guilty five minutes later. Spending money I didn't have on stuff that I didn't need, vitamins, supplements, chocolate, clothes, books, anything to try and make myself feel better. The inability to have a proper conversation with anyone. Some days I couldn't even leave the house and face anyone. Going through the motions, putting on a fake smile and dragging myself through the day with no real feeling or interest in anything.
For me it definitely was a lack of caring about things in general, be it good or bad, no emotional response whatsoever because what's the point, and a lack of appetite. I was hungry, but I had zero desire for food so sometimes I'd just skip a meal because I couldn't be bothered to eat even though I was hungry. Not sure if it was actual DEPRESSION depression but it was definitely a slippery slope
What's the point of caring? I'm too tired for caring anymore
Load More Replies...One not mentioned above is the most important. If someone mentions the s*cide word, even in joking, even as a threat, even crying wolf, take them seriously. Get hold of a professional head shrinker to see them.
I have anorexia and depression from my old family. I still can't eat. i still cant live. i'm only 10. why is this happening to me?
Oh goodness. This breaks my heart. Do you have anyone who you can turn to for help? Or is there a way you can start seeing a therapist? You're so young, no one should have to experience this. I'm sending you so much love and light ❤️
Load More Replies...Several things..... for me. First one in at work, not excited about weekends or holidays, kind to everyone. Some appreciate it and ask me how I'm doing- stock answer: "ok and you?" Having a short fuse, even to my work buddy who's saved my life a million times without knowing it by keeping in touch and reaching out when he hasn't had a message from me in a few days
Oh, and apologizing way to much for stuff you don't need to apologize for.... Brought to my attention by my work buddy
Load More Replies...This thread is sad but the replies to some of them are encouraging. I don't know what to say if you're feeling suicidal other than spout off cool facts about the world, honestly. If you're feeling suicidal please don't, and I don't know what to say to make you not but you _will_ be missed. Someone will miss you. Someone cares. Get help, or just talk. But don't kill yourself. <3
"Duty to Others". It's been my entire life - everyone and everything comes first, before me. It has upended my world - I flamed out at work because of this and rage-quit recently. And a decade ago when I was deathly ill and HAD to put myself first before others - it upset my worldview and sent me into a three-year depression.
I've suffered chronic depression for over 40 years. When I'm having a very DOWN period, I tend to get very annoyed by people's well-meaning but shallow fake-compassion, the "hugs" and "I care", or absolutely the worst is the sanctimonious moralizing: "S*cide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem." I've had depression for 40 years. Trust me. This is not a temporary problem. "Depressed people don't want to die! They just want the pain to stop!" No. I'm pretty sure I'd actually like to die. People who don't have depression wouldn't not understand how I joke and laugh and talk about the importance of love, kindness and compassion ... and yet it's a constant struggle not to check out. The only reason I don't is because unfortunately, I'm well enough to know I'm sick, and I'm well enough to know I would put others in a bad situation, and I'm just not suffering enough to be blind to that. But don't doubt I spend every day in darkness.
I started tearing up because these are my EXACT feelings. Thank you for putting it into words.
Load More Replies...For me it was wishing that I had other people's problems because mine felt insurmountable and there was no end in sight. Lack of energy. I wanted to do stuff but I neither had the strength or inclination. Constantly eating. That immediate feelgood fix from eating my favourite foods would then leave me feeling greedy fat and guilty five minutes later. Spending money I didn't have on stuff that I didn't need, vitamins, supplements, chocolate, clothes, books, anything to try and make myself feel better. The inability to have a proper conversation with anyone. Some days I couldn't even leave the house and face anyone. Going through the motions, putting on a fake smile and dragging myself through the day with no real feeling or interest in anything.
For me it definitely was a lack of caring about things in general, be it good or bad, no emotional response whatsoever because what's the point, and a lack of appetite. I was hungry, but I had zero desire for food so sometimes I'd just skip a meal because I couldn't be bothered to eat even though I was hungry. Not sure if it was actual DEPRESSION depression but it was definitely a slippery slope
What's the point of caring? I'm too tired for caring anymore
Load More Replies...One not mentioned above is the most important. If someone mentions the s*cide word, even in joking, even as a threat, even crying wolf, take them seriously. Get hold of a professional head shrinker to see them.
I have anorexia and depression from my old family. I still can't eat. i still cant live. i'm only 10. why is this happening to me?
Oh goodness. This breaks my heart. Do you have anyone who you can turn to for help? Or is there a way you can start seeing a therapist? You're so young, no one should have to experience this. I'm sending you so much love and light ❤️
Load More Replies...Several things..... for me. First one in at work, not excited about weekends or holidays, kind to everyone. Some appreciate it and ask me how I'm doing- stock answer: "ok and you?" Having a short fuse, even to my work buddy who's saved my life a million times without knowing it by keeping in touch and reaching out when he hasn't had a message from me in a few days
Oh, and apologizing way to much for stuff you don't need to apologize for.... Brought to my attention by my work buddy
Load More Replies...This thread is sad but the replies to some of them are encouraging. I don't know what to say if you're feeling suicidal other than spout off cool facts about the world, honestly. If you're feeling suicidal please don't, and I don't know what to say to make you not but you _will_ be missed. Someone will miss you. Someone cares. Get help, or just talk. But don't kill yourself. <3
"Duty to Others". It's been my entire life - everyone and everything comes first, before me. It has upended my world - I flamed out at work because of this and rage-quit recently. And a decade ago when I was deathly ill and HAD to put myself first before others - it upset my worldview and sent me into a three-year depression.
