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Before the Internet, most stupid things that were said were simply forgotten, as if evaporated into thin air. Poof, gone. But now, since the dawn of the Twitter-era where every voice is amplified, there are so many wrong takes, most of them drowning in testosterone, that it would be a real shame to let them go away without proper appreciation. And that's where 'Hot Masculinity Takes' community comes in.

From ridiculous Andrew Tate wannabes spewing absurdly ridiculous opinions to 'gigachads' who, as you'll see in today's list, compares Socrates to the man himself, 'Hot Masculinity Takes' has proven itself to be a page we don't deserve, but one that we need - today, more than ever before. Without further ado, "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," dear readers. And if you're hungry for more, you can check out our previous 'Hot Masculinity Takes' post.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I believe the thing here is that women and men are equally not allowed to do activities with opposite sex people that is not family. It's a rule for both, not just a woman. So the dude is being a sexist idiot.

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It's easy to be ridiculous and sink to base misogyny, but to do it without a glimmer of irony is where the real genius of the 'Hot Masculinity Takes' collection lies. Speaking to Bored Panda about the origins of their page in 2021, four years after it was created, the founder reveals that its original goal wasn't to make fun of 'toxic masculinity' - a catchall explanation for Andrew Tate-admiring Chads who try to preserve outdated ideals of masculinity to the point of absurdity.

"I will say that it’s not purely about 'toxic masculinity,'" the person behind 'Hot Masculinity Takes' explained to my colleague Rokas. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too." Since 2017, the page has garnered thousands of new followers, currently sporting a number shy of 155,000.

Although the term 'toxic masculinity' has gained recent popularity among feminists, many will be surprised to learn that it actually was coined in the mythopoetic men's movement of the 1980s and '90s by Shepherd Bliss, a psychology professor at John F. Kennedy University in Orinda, California, who only wanted to capture his "father's militarized, authoritarian masculinity."

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By those days' definition, nobody would suspect that one of America’s greatest writers, the ultimate man's man, Ernest Hemingway, could be "the avatar of toxic masculinity." In this day and age, depending on who you ask, however, Hemingway might be just as bad to young men's masculinity as rock and roll was to our grandparents (due to the fact that for a short period of time it was considered 'Devil's music').

There's no surprise in the fact that perception of masculinity has been shifting in the last few years, with people associating it with aggression and being inconsiderate. On the other hand, the 2017 Pew Research Center survey, while being pretty outdated, shows some fascinating metrics. In terms of self-perception, approximately 31% of American men identified themselves as "highly manly or masculine", while 54% described themselves as "somewhat masculine." Only a small percentage of 15% considered themselves as "not too or not at all masculine." Fair enough.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WoW none of those women are even ugly!! They just chose sh*tty photos...

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nature is clear Eric - stupid men who say stupid things make themselves less attractive to women. This prevents them from breeding and spreading their stupidity down through the ages. It's a wonderful thing.

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A compelling statistic that I came across, thanks to GQ magazine, is from their "Survey of Attitudes on Masculinity" conducted in 2019. The survey revealed that among those who are familiar with the term "toxic masculinity," 26% of men acknowledged witnessing it in the workplace, while only 37% of women agreed with the statement. These numbers, all things considered, seem fairly significant, although the ultimate goal remains to strive for a complete eradication of such instances in the future.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's fun to imagine them stroking out if they knew I held her purse and other clothes while she tried stuff on. One time I accidentally touched a wrapped tampon and it almost made my penis fall off but then I drank a beer, ate a rare steak and screamed the name of my favorite team and I felt a bit better. /s

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The desirability of masculinity, like anything else, depends on how you define it. And so, in order to understand the phenomenon of 'toxic masculinity' better, Bored Panda reached out to Michael Karson, a professor at the University of Denver's Graduate School of Professional Psychology. According to him, 'toxic masculinity' has morphed into a heavy-handed term, one that carries many misconceptions. 

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"Horrible things that some men do are not extensions of positive traits like assertiveness, ambition, and courage, just as the vile things that mean girls do under the labels of gossip, ostracism, and character assassination are not extensions of positive traits like social grouping or emotional bonding. Both sets of bad behavior involve dehumanizing other people," Karson explains, noting that bad behavior shouldn't be associated strictly with gender, rather with a person's psychology.

Otherwise, men could start to fear that once respected traits like assertiveness, standing up for what’s right or speaking truth to power have become "villainized in our conflict avoidant society." Something that can drive young men to display hyper-masculinity, according to one survey by YouGov.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like my people, we talk about Disney, gardening, and World of Warcraft, and all have active men within those groups

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If her V sucks you in like the vacuum at a self serve car wash then head for the airlock because the aliens have made it onto your ship.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL. Yeah that's why. I am so intimidated by orange skin and a balding head.

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Karson believes that while there's some good in condemning horrible aggressive behavior to 'toxic masculinity', we should be careful of how we characterize it. "If a man robs someone, it’s a political choice whether to construe him as a man or as someone who is enraged or desperate or antisocial," he said. "This also happens with race: when a Black person commits a crime, depending on the political agenda, he can be characterized as Black or as desperate, or as enraged."

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

demanding it like that, they must be glad the women only yell back and dont put that microphone stand in a place where the sun doesnt shine.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I ... I just. Hmm. Telling a guy to sit while peeing is like being part of the Nazi regime? I ... just ... no.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Omg women unite and lock Samira in a classroom somewhere, she obviously needs more of an education

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Based on the "Man Box Study" conducted by Promundo in 2017, which surveyed over 1,000 men aged 18 to 30 in the United States, it was discovered that 72% of participants reported being told that there is a specific way in which a "real man" should behave. Additionally, the study found that 59% of respondents agreed with the notion that men should display strength even if they feel scared or anxious internally, while 40% believed that men should handle their personal issues without seeking assistance from others.

Of course, these are completely outdated sets of ideals that organizations such as A Call to Men try to root out from our society. "I’m not sure how much control parents really have on their children’s gender development in a culture that sends pervasive messages about what girls and boys are supposed to be like," Karson said, "but I would advise parents to teach kids how to think critically and skeptically about those messages."

"Also, if parents can love their children wholly, the children may be more likely to integrate their various conflicting agendas, including their sons’ needs for tenderness and their daughters’ needs for achievement."

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do they have this kind of chart for women too or are women more like prey and have no personality (let alone hierarchy). This chart is ridiculous, I'm just curious.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pro tip: Shove that carrot right up your a..s so it can work it's magic slowly and naturally all day long.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Calling a president defending his nation under attack a wimp... in comparison to a narcissistic billionaire nutcase. Sure...

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who seems to have wanted to buy twitter because someone was upsetting him.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chivalry: a strict code of conduct knights serving a king or queen should follow lest they not disgrace their otrtheir lieges name and be expelled in shame. Toxic masculinity: being a flying asshat to people to cover up your glaring insecurities and treating others as objects like a psychopath. I see some differences.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Females were the foundation prior to male rule. Goddess statues date back quite a while. The foundation of human culture valued women due to their bodies and their power to create life. Mother earth ... kind of foundational, just saying.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So true - The queen of shiva - name one king from this era with that amount of swag and reputation 💕

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Elon Musk is a ... well, special person. Zelensky does the best he can to defend his country from an unrightful, violent, unprovoked and contract-breaking invasion of foreign troops who have no business in even being where they are...

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'll pass, thanks. I have knitting to finish, soy to eat (and drink presumably) and hair to grow (or cut, depending on who you ask).

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm from Spain, we don't want her here, someone save us from her!!

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

send her to murka, they like people that think like that. Oh wait they'll think she's from "saath of the borderrr."

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dear Ada, I hope you are aware that many of the wars in the past were caused by toxic masculinity? But sure, if you call that the "foundation of the world" you do you.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d rather have a turnip lodged up my nose.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean... Volodymyr "Balls-of-steel" Zelensky is a wimp?? I thought that being a charismatic leader showing courage and determination during, idk, a literal war is as "chivalrous" (= 'characteristic of, you know, a knight') as it gets... O.o

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, wimps like Zelensky? I’m actually considering looking for her podcast, I assume it’s called something like “random lunatic views by a delusional idiot”.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It just... It just seems like... Like in 2016, an alternate dimension has merged with our timeline, somehow. The reality we all thought we understood has warped and distorted beyond all comprehension... and we have two (at least two) realities fighting to exist in the same space and time. Our timeline has ruptured, and an evil, corrupt, insane plane of existence now inhabits our reality. In 2016 a third of our nation invited the devil into our house and now the vile black tendrils of this horror are winding its way through our consciousness, choking out goodness and decency and compassion.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when she figures out how to plug in a microphone and use some software other than instagram.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How in the f... in any way objectively is Zelenskyy a wimp? HOW? When he was asked if he wanted to be rescued out of there, he said: "I don't need a ride, I need ammunition". I mean, even by toxic b******t standards, how can that be anything other than pure badass? Explain this to me.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not all masculinity is toxic, silly. There is wholesome masculinity too, and Zelenskyy has quite a bit of it.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Zelensky is a wimp? Taking on a vicious tyrant like Putin? That's the opposite of being a wimp.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Try not to be beaten to death by your boyfriend until you get that 'cast up

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, Zelensky, that wimp. Stayed in his war torn country instead of taking the easy way out and fleeing.

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So according to this waste of oxygen, having a 40 billion dollar hissy fit because people weren't nice to you = masculine. Standing up to the biggest bully in the world, refusing the leave an active combat zone because your men are fighting there = wimp. I'm actually surprised that this woman is unhappy. There are no lack of men who will behave like toddlers when they take her out on a date.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

well obviously this is written by Putin, that man is obsessed with Zelenskyy, I think he has a crush.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Zelensky VS musk. Cage match, Elon would be running from the former comedian. What a joke.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thank god, I need to know when to turn everything off so I dont have to listen to you.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's masculinity and there's toxic masculinity. They are different things.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is lost to world. We can only hope for no offsprings.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bro elon musk has had more gender affirming operations than most trans people...

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The numbers halving is a very good thing. Sounds like this guy peaked in high school.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's almost like the boss is paying them to do a job, how weird!

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who's going to tell them The Matrix was made by a couple of bad-a*s trans women?

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or maybe classical sculptures didn't want to put a giant dong on their statues because it would be the first thing to be broken off.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol I'm not eyeballing the guys, I'm eyeballing the lay-flat seats!

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing Corrupter has never brought a woman to orgasm.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is ridiculously mean. Some women can't produce breast milk, some babies only have a father, some babies have no parents, etc. Just, so many people that need formula and they are just stomping on them. For shame.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do not listen to this highly insecure individual! Most women enjoy hearing men moan. I think the moaning is great as a bonding experience, knowing you're giving such pleasure to your partner is erotic

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one is actually quite funny. I read this as, " I, a very masculine man,do not interact with women because I'm scared of my wife ."

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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who used to teach human osteology, I can assure you that none of the bones in the skull are soft. In fact, none of the bones anywhere in our bodies are soft. Also female skulls are not flat (wtf does that even mean!). There are some *general* sex-based characteristics of the skull that, when taken *together* can give you a pretty good idea if the skull was female or male - but that is also dependent on where on the gradient those traits lie (it's not an either/or thing) and it doesn't tell you anything about the person themselves (e.g., their gender identity), only if the skeleton was likely to be biologically female or biologicaly male.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many false ideas are “wild to consider,” so I guess he’s right.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

F**K YOU, YOU LITTLE S**T IF YOU WERE THE PRIZE AT THE END OF A MARATHON ALL WOMEN WOULD WALK BACKWARDS. AS AN ASIAN I WOULD NOT F*****G GO WITHIN 10METRES OF THIS CLOWN WITH A BROOMSTICK.

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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So good I can't even work out what it's trying to say. "Based"?

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