When you order a meal, a lot goes into preparing it. Of course, there are differences between places that offer fast food and fine dining, but both the former and the latter (and every establishment in between the two), have things they would like to stay behind their closed kitchen door. So no wonder there are plenty of posts on 'Ask Reddit' where people are asking servers, chefs, and other restaurant insiders to share the industry secrets most customers aren't aware of. To give you a better understanding of what you're paying for, we compiled the most interesting answers into the list you see below. Bon appétit!
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Not so much a secret but a lesser known fact...
Kirkland products, the white label brand from Costco, are independently tested to beat OR EXCEED the industry leading product in that category. Razor blades. Cookies. Cheese. Laundry pods. If it doesn’t beat the industry leader, they won’t put the Kirkland name on it.
The CEO of Costco pushes for better pay and benefits than most other comparable companies.
I have a pretty decent job now but Ive heard that from a few people. Almost worked there.
Load More Replies...I'm guessing it's a typo and they meant meat but they really meant meet. Maybe?
Load More Replies...I always use Kirkland everything. Their soy milk is better than any brand I've ever tried.
Kirkland pesto is the only store-bought brand of pesto that isn't shite.
Sometimes Kirkland products are the industry leader for whatever category, but with a different package and lower price.
Ice-machines are RARELY cleaned out. Like almost NEVER. Bugs, dirt, food particles, whatever.
At two previous restaurant jobs I felt bad that customers were getting gross ice (both places had a single machine), and mentioned it to my managers at the time. They both brushed it off as having better things to do with my time, so I used to "accidentally" kick the plug out of the wall in the evenings, come in the next day, and find a half-melted ice machine. I was stuck cleaning it, but it was worth it, since I felt better about the ice being served. We had to use ice from the store down the street for the rest of the day, but it wasn't like it cost the restaurants much money.
One bartender told me he would "accidentally" drop/break a glass into an ice machine to serve the same purpose if the management wasn't being cool about it. Broken glass = scoop out and dump all the ice, and might as well clean the thing since it's empty.
Are you by accident from the Netherlands, Enkhuizen area? You've got the same last name as my mother. She was born in Bovenkarspel
Load More Replies...There are companies now that just clean out ice machines. Hopefully, restaurants will start hiring them.
But answer this. Who has ever cleaned out the ice machine on their own fridge??? Yup
I worked in a fish and chips shop where we had a soft ice machine too. It also where never cleaned until the food authorities came by and found poop bacteria in the ice. Brrrrrr
This is disgusting and someone should plant a little bug in the Health Departments ear, informing them of this! BTW, you are a hero!!
We have a local segment on KPRC. "And.....there's slime in the ICE Machine!"
As a server this was usually our side work/cleaning schedules. The rubber gaskets are always supposed to be cleaned because it is on the inspector list. The gaskets in the tea urns and soda spouts and diffusers. Some places break their equipment down each night. You just set it back up in the morning.
I worked in a fancy country club ($25K initiation fee, then $7K/year in the 90s). A slice of "homemade" cheesecake was $7 each on the menu. One of the sous chefs stopped by the Giant Food grocery store every day on the way to work to pickup a whole cheesecake for about $5.
This happens alot in restaurants. My boyfriend said he loved the ice cream at the restaurant I worked. Any restaurant. 'It just tastes different from store bought He constantly asked me for some.A while layer we got to talking and ice cream came up. I decided to break his heart and tell him the ice cream from my job was bought at IGA, a local grocery store. He was so disappointed 😗
So you busted the myth, but isn't he pleased he can have the ice-cream from the store, and not pay a fortune?
Load More Replies...Well, if they have money for those stupid fees, I'd say go on then to sell them slice of cake for two w the price of whole cake. Deserved.
1. If it says 'homemade', I assume it's made on the premises. 2. That's a very large mark-up.
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Alright, I've worked in fast food, in causal dining, and fine dining, in kitchens and front of house. In my experience, casual dining is usually the most dirty/unsanitary.
In fast food, supervision and rules are the most strict, so they're usually pretty clean. In fine dining, you have kitchen staff that takes pride in their work and actually knows *why* all those health department rules exist. They know how to handle raw meats, contaminants and allergens correctly. They don't follow all the rules to the letter, but they know their s**t and they care, so stuff is usually pretty damn clean and food safety is important to them.
Casual dining (especially non-chains) is right at the intersection of people not knowing/caring about food safety and not having strict rules and supervision. That's where s**t gets gross.
Of course these are just generalizations, but pretty true in my experience.
I worked in chain casual dining, so not sure this is what it refers to, but we had to have certifications in food safety that exceeded the local requirements. Hired 3rd party auditors to come in every quarter to assess cleanliness in addition to regular Health Dept inspections. We prepped and labeled all food to be used much faster than what the HD requires. Where I live, prepared, refrigerated meats can be used for 7 days. We didn't use after 36 hours. We didn't play.
I've heard that about chains too. A friend worked in an Olive Garden in the 90s and said they were super fastidious.
Load More Replies...If when you first walk into a casual or any restaurant you catch a whiff of what smells like old grease, LEAVE, because it is old and it's likely everywhere in the kitchen. On the walls, behind and under things, etc. Also, take a look at any HVAC ducts in the ceiling to see if they and the ceiling around them are free of dirt and grime. If not, you are breathing in whatever nastiness is in the ductwork. I also very strongly suggest you go check out the restroom before ordering, especially the men's room because what that looks like is pretty much the condition of the kitchen. If it's so bad you grab a paper towel to avoid touching the door on your way out, remember that employees very likely did touch it on their way out and are preparing your food.
I worked in a casual dining restaurant that had two kitchens. In our kitchen, we were proud to say that no one had ever died from the food we prepared. The other kitchen was unable to make that claim.
Having only worked fast food and in the dining hall at a retirement home, I can tell you they made me get a food handler's permit and know my stuff in both those settings.
I'm pretty sure that the kitchens are very sanitary at a McDo and other similar chains. It's the quality of the food itself that I'm doubting.
They know their value to travelers, especially. Consistent food and clean bathrooms anywhere in the States.
Load More Replies...I'm ignorant. What is classified as casual dining? I get what is meant by fast food. McDonald's and Arby's and Wendys etc. Please name some casual dining places. I suspect they're the places I thought were safe. I need names!
Most of our desserts are purchased from the Wal-Mart directly across the street then marked up 500%. For the price of a couple of pieces of cheesecake, you could just go across the street to Wal-Mart after your meal and buy a whole one.
We just drizzle a bit of chocolate or raspberry sauce on it so that it doesn't look exactly like the one from Wal-Mart.
Also, a smoker outside the building doesn't mean your barbecue is fresh. Most of it is frozen. Sometimes we just throw logs on there so it looks and smells like we're barbecuing. Homey, we made that shit two days ago. That's just wood you're smelling.
This is how restaurants work. They buy stuff, do something to it, then sell it at a higher price. I thought this was an operating model that most people understood.
Yes and no. For cheese cake I would expect them to make the base (either from biscuits or from flour and butter) and then make the filling from basics, like soft cheese. Not buy finished one and just cut it and add some decoration. Would you expect pizzeria to buy frozen pizza and just put it in the oven?
Load More Replies...American healthcare doesn't have 500% markup, they have 500 times markup.
Load More Replies...This might be specific to this restaurant, I think most restaurants make their own dessert.
Most I know have a "dessert vendor" and this one just happens to be Walmart. I highly doubt every single restaurant makes their own dessert. A few high end places with unique desserts and perhaps a pastry chef will do it.
Load More Replies...Recently found out a local pizza place has their dough made by the bakery of a local grocery store. He pick up 2 giant bags everyday and they use that. At least both places are local!
As someone who has a Degree in Pastry. Also have worked in many kitchens. This not always true. I made a lot of desserts from scratch in places I worked. When I helped open a new restaurant with others. Every dessert on the menu was hand made down to the hand whipped whipcream.
I would never buy cheesecake from walmart...I hope this isn't true..and if it is, maybe I need to change how I think about shopping at Walmart...🤔
Yeah but then you'd have to go to Walmart. No amount of money is worth that
We have no mom and pop groceries stores here so it's the big name stores only to shop at. I go to Walmart for shelf food only and other knick knacks but never fresh food.
Load More Replies...That's how $hitty/chain restaurants operate. The bbq joint I work at smokes so much and closes when we sell out. The oldest anything is is yesterday.
Everybody wants to believe that fast food restaurants are disgusting and have terribly low standards for everything, but the reality is that they wouldn't be able to stay in business if this was the case. On the contrary, many fast food places have absurdly high standards for cleanliness and food preparation. For two years, I managed a Jimmy John's franchise, and frankly, you could eat off the bathroom floor, and that's not an exaggeration. Corporate stoolies keep such a tight watch on individual franchises that a business owner risks losing their contract if they stray from compliance in any major way. The food may not always be the best quality (though JJ's meat is surprisingly decent quality), but you know that you get what you pay for. If you want a $5 meal, most fast food restaurants will provide that to you without you having to worry about what's going on behind the scenes.
Edit: Since some people are getting upset over the fact that their anecdotal experience didn't match this statement on one or two occasions, I would like to clarify that no, this doesn't apply to 100% of restaurants. I wouldn't think that would have to be said... but I guess it did.
i worked at a national fast food chain once, and it was immaculate...i mean immaculate...the local chain i worked at was not...
Chain restaurants have multiple internal cleanliness/ food safety audits yearly so you pass the health department one. Raises/ bonuses are based on them so yeah most chain restaurants are cleaner safer to eat at vs mom and pops restaurant down the road
JJ’s meat is not high quality. It’s one step above Subway, which is one step above prison meat. I’m glad to hear it’s clean though.
I worked at a Denny's type (not a franchise) of restaurant and it was spotless. They made their own soups everyday and the kitchen was immaculate. I also worked at a high end steak and seafood restaurant. It was disgusting. The meat had green slime on it and they just dumped it in a deep fryer for a few seconds. They would pre-boil large amounts of pasta and leave it in water in the cooler for weeks until there was sludge on the pasta and water. Can judge a book by its cover!
I worked for a fast-food chain restaurant and the standards were impeccably high for quality and hygiene. BUT it was because the management wouldn't tolerate anything less. I've also worked in independently owned high-end restaurants where the managers constantly cut corners on hygiene and quality of the food to show a profit, and chefs and staff have quit.
When it comes to fast food, it isn't the conditions the food is prepared under that will kill you.
This is NOT the case in the UK. Cleanliness very much depends on the franchisee..
Which is why we have the Foods Standard Agency who conduct regular inspections. Those premises posing a higher risk will be visited every 6 months. My local curry house always got top ratings, in September it got a 2 for the first time, after the ownership changed. They will be reinspected and, in the meantime, everyone knows and the place is empty.
Load More Replies...This is true for all restaurants. Standards for all. Sure, there are some that do not do what is required but that's less the norm than the standard.
Had a customer once ask if the Tomato Soup is vegetarian. I said I think so, and she asked if we'd check. Sure enough, she was right... most tomato soup starts with Chicken Broth.
It was nice of you to actually check though, it’s more than a lot of people would do.
Why the F are they not making vegetable soups with vegetable broth?! Tastes just as good!
At the very least, it should be mentioned in the menu that is uses chicken broth instead of vegetable broth.
Load More Replies...As a 23 year long vegetarian, this is a very real conundrum to run into. The ingredients might be meatless but what about the base? I either ask or avoid but never assume. Absolutely nobody would know the difference if meatless soups/dishes were cooked with/in vegetable stock but it doesn't occur to anyone who isn't a vegetarian to even do this.
And the secret is? It is common to use chicken or beef broth to make other soups.
This is interesting. I'm Portuguese we love soup. Most Portuguese people have soup at least once a day. But I don't think we used meat based broth to make vegetable soup. Any Portuguese people out there who can confirm?
I just commented above about "vegetarian" soups. You really need to check ingredient list because of the broth. Sure they don't have meat in them but the broth is almost always chicken
Most soups are made with meat broth. Be aware. Also risotto is often made with chicken stock.
most so-called vegetarian soup starts with chicken or beef stock...and even miso soup starts with a pork broth...
Veggie burgers were grilled on the same grill as the meat, and were often cooked in the grease of other burgers.
I'm vegetarian, and often wondered... I just comfort myself that at least the "burger" isn't meat 🤷♀️
I'm muslim, and in many resturants they say that the meat is Halal but they cook it somewhere which probably has bacon grease or something
Load More Replies...I am a non vegetarian but don't eat meat on specific days due to religious reasons. I don't eat out on those days. The restaurant is not responsible for keeping my faith and choices.
Oof no. At the very least there's a vegetables space on the grill. As much effort as possible to keep any vegetables seperate from any meat. And if you can't match halal or kosher you say so and let the customer choose. Don't screw with people's food choices.
As a former vegetarian, I don't understand why this is a problem? Generally speaking, someone elects to be a vegetarian/vegan because they don't want to perpetuate animal suffering/death... if you eat a veggie burger that's touched animal products, that doesn't mean that any animals suffered or died on your behalf. So what's the problem?
My husband and I owned a takeaway shop/burgers/hot chips etc. We NEVER mixed vegetarian with other food. We had a separate fry pan/utensils and prep section for all vege based cooking. To do otherwise is just disgusting and not respectful to your customers!
Yeah, it's a pretty good bet you will never get "vegan" food in a restaurant that isn't strictly vegan itself.
That's quite expected if you ask me. Wish it wasn't like that? Of course, but it's a bit naive to not realise this happens at pretty much every place.
Actually depends on where you are eating at. Some places have higher standards than others. Hell, even Burger King has a policy in place to keep the veggie burgers away from the meat stuff
Maybe not a "secret secret" but just not something people realized.
At Wendy's, the cooked burgers that don't get sold, those go into a pot in a refrigerator, and they get made into TOMORROW's chili.
The crispy chicken that doesn't get sold today? Those go into a pot in the fridge and those get made into TOMORROW's crispy chicken salads.
Back when Wendy's had a salad bar ... the burger buns that are going stale at the end of a day? Those got made into tomorrow's garlic bread on the salad bar.
None of this is unsafe, all of this is approved by the department of health, and none of this is a trade secret ... but I bet you didn't realize that.
How is this bad? (Aside from being a fast food place) Sounds to me like responsible reuse, mitigating food waste. It's not like something cooked today will magically be spoiled overnight. Most restaurants aren't in the habit of discarding every bit of food at day's end
Exactly! Excellent work, keep it up. Food waste is criminal.
Load More Replies...Knowing this actually makes me like Wendy’s more. Fun fact: Dave Thomas, the founder of Wendy’s started out with several KFC franchises in the Midwest that were far more popular than the rest, so was hired by the owners to expand the business across the country. He is a huge player in their success. He popularized the drive thru window and created the red/white branding and the KFC bucket. He quit and started Wendy’s.
It was interesting working there as a teen...my parents were very eco friendly and applauded them for not wasting so much food :)
Load More Replies...If I cook meals at home, and need to use leftovers, I'd probably do same. Nothing wrong with what I read here, in my opinion.
It's really not gross. I was a manager st Wendy's and the dried out burgers made the best chili the next day. The only thing I could say is they usually have more left over than they need and the inventory manager needs to be sure it's being rotated properly and thrown out last the frozen expiration date..
The chili is GREAT and has a good Weight Watcher number if you hold the cheese
Load More Replies...Why waste perfectly good food? I worked at narsai's market in kensington,where all kinds of left overs go into the soup. And it's the best soup ever.
Everyone knows this. It’s hardly a secret. Soup of the day? Just the s**t that didn’t sell yesterday
We buy tiny wine bottles for $7 and sell for $37. Spaghetti Factories house wine is Franzia box wine.
I thought it was a given that 'house wine' would be from a cask, since it is the cheapest
We served Franzia boxed wine in my wife's restaurant. People loved it and would often ask where were bought it. We instructed the servers to give the vague answer of "I think the owner buys it at a wine place in Austin (Texas)". The "wine place" - HEB grocery store. Our special chocolate cake that people came in to specifically eat? Sams chocolate layer cake. The rest of the food we did in house - I swear!!!
Health inspection is really kind of a sham. Health inspectors tend to inspect all the restaurants in an area around the same time. When the inspector shows up at one restaurant the manager will typically notify the other restaurants in the area. I worked at a Taco Bell. When we got a call from the BK down the street that the health inspector was there, we knew he would be showing up at our place sometime in the next week. We would call in extra people to do a deep clean of everything. It did not matter that most of the year every time we hosed out under the fryer or food prep lines, we drowned hundreds of roaches. When the health inspector showed up everything was clean, so we still had a 100% on our health inspection.
So true. And they only check for certain things. Not everything they should really be checking for. I used to work for the health department and I ACTUALLY did my job properly and red flagged so many restaurants that previously had perfect health inspections. I literally got death threats. So I quit.
The chain isn't as important as the location, so Kenosha Wisconsin. Every time the health inspector showed up, they sat down with the manager for a half hour and enjoyed a few free soft drinks while talking about anything other than the stores cleanliness, and went about their day.
Load More Replies...I'm a "health inspector" in the UK. We don't work that way. We also certainly do not takes bribes.
If I was making food I wouldn't eat, I'd call whoever needed to be sure I wasn't serving said food to others... Employees who don't report are at blame too
In some jurisdictions, gifting a case of mid-level booze buys an inspector's approval. This applies to all sorts of inspections.
When I worked at a chain restaurant we always knew when the inspector was coming. We'd always do a deep thorough clean the day before and have near perfect scores. One time we found "rice" in a deep corner under the line during one of those cleans; we didn't serve rice so I'll let you imagine what it was (there was a wet apron in that corner)
Okay everyone. I JUST left my job at Wendy's that I've been at for quite some time. I worked my last shift this last Friday. You want to know why? WE GET TREATED LIKE S**T. that's the most disgusting thing. That's the big secret. I know at any job the potential for that will always be there. But it gets to the point where when my felon coworker is throwing food at me and spraying me in the face with a power hose and drunk people are coming in, reaching across my counter and threatening me and nothing is getting done about it, I knew I have to leave. And I did. Best thing I ever did to improve my quality of life.
I really hope that it was just the one location and not every location. Should I take back my application at Wendy's? This list is seriously making me question it
Load More Replies...Idk why people look down on fast food workers. Its a job. It provides money to the worker to support (hopefully) themselves. Around me the fast food places are paying more than most other jobs. Why I am not at a fast food place, because what OP said.
Stop being mean to people who are working!!!! If they all quit, where are you gonna get your fries, your prescriptions, your groceries, your pizzas, and so on. We are running out of employees, because of mean customers.
Probably unnecessary on this site but to the general public and customers who haven’t worked in the service industry: can we all just collectively agree not to be awful to the staff, even if you’re having a bad day? Doesn’t seem like a hard lift. Generally it’s a good idea not to be rude to the people who make your food or the people who give you a prostrate exam
Lol, I warned the supervisor not to put me on the register, because I was Not going to wear the stupid hat. Not talking about the regular hat. This was 40 years ago and their promotion for the new "taco salad" was to have the cashiers wear a sombrero. I quit that night. Also the owners were very misogynistic.
Our local Wendy's must be the same way--they're supposed to be open for breakfast, but they don't have enough staff to even be open until lunch, they often aren't open at supper time, and once or twice we've gone there for lunch and the dining room was closed. I've never gone by there when they weren't hiring.
Used to work at Silver Mine Subs. I think the grossest/weirdest things were probably the ice machines (I always was extra careful to inspect the ice, before filling it, because I found quite a few frozen bugs in there) and the fact that people sometimes smoked weed in the walk in freezer. I never did this but I caught several co-workers doing it. I mean sure I get high sometimes, but can't that wait until after work?
One notable story: I did delivery driving for a while and one time I was in a big rush with a bunch of orders. I had a customer's food and was running up the stairs to their apartment with it, and tripped over the top step (it was weird because you'd go up the staircase, turn the corner, and there was a random diagonal step there that was about half the height of all the other ones and nearly impossible to see.) I fell flat on my face and the bag of food went FLYING over the railing. Extremely embarrassed, I immediately went up to the customer's door, knocked, and admitted what happened. I apologized profusely, said I'd have the order remade, and comp him out for it.
He said to me with a smile "Don't worry about it. That step is f*****g annoying and I've honestly seen at least 3 or 4 other drivers do the exact same thing. You're the first to admit it happened; they all just went and got the food off the ground. And brought it up hoping I wouldn't notice. Thanks for being honest."
So I call my boss explain what happened and can they please remake the order, and bring it back to him, everything is fine, and he tips me like $15 on the comped out order. I think he tipped me more for the order than it originally would have cost, just because I was *honest* that I *dropped his food on the ground.*
I was pretty horrified that other drivers would do that. And that he'd be so impressed by me being honest about something that I'd have assumed any other employee would own up to.
Sounds like he should make a sign warning people about that step unless he's okay with eating sidewalk food. Yeah, the apartments should probably do it, but I'm the type that I would make one to warn people. Common courtesy and all. I don't want food that's been on the ground unless I do it and decide if the five second rule is cool in that instance or not. Lol
Or...crazy thought I know... fix/redesign the dang step! So that this doesn't keep happening!
Load More Replies...not quite the same, but i bought a cake or something to take away somewhere. the guy dropped the bag with the cake in it on the floor and went to throw it away and give me a new one. i said 'was the food still in the bag?' 'oh yeah, it didn't actually touch the floor' 'then i'll take it. save wasting it. the food is still good.' because it was only the bag that touched it. but i appreciated that he was ready to replace it. i'd do that same at my work just to be on the safe side, though personally i'd prefer not to waste perfectly good food.
Unfortunately, picking something up off the floor and throwing it on the grill or spraying it off is more common than you can imagine.
No. Sometimes you cant wait till after work to get stoned. Especially when your job sucks
Back when I was a fry cook, some customers thought they were being slick and would order unsalted fries to make sure they got fresh ones. Us cooks would just put already salted fries back into the fryer to wash the salt off.
Some people have blood pressure problems and are on a sodium (salt) restricted diet.
Can here to say this. Please don't serve people something they are not expecting, you never know what dietary requirements they have.
Load More Replies...We order fries without salt so that we can eat fries that aren’t salted into oblivion.
Lazy bs... It literally takes 30 seconds of effort and 2 minutes to cook...
Thought I was the only one who preferred the squishy fries! 😋
Load More Replies...I’m calling bs. Easy to tell when fries are reheated. Just making more work for yourselves having to make more.
I have a friend who worked at McDonald's in his teen years. He always orders unsalted fries. I doubt he would bother if he knew this is how its done. Plus...wouldn't the twice-fried fries be burned or at least obviously oil infused...?
They're usually only dropped long enough to reheat and not for a full cycle. But, yes it's very obvious when it's done. No place I've worked has done that that I know of. Most fries are worse afterwards and the oil is damaged.
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Papa John's employees are always high. Always.
That's literally 75% of cooks out there... It's basically necessary to get through the day lol
*shrug* This has proven true at every single restaurant I worked at during college. Not only is everyone baked to the nines, your server is better at their job when they are because then the a-hole who just stiffed them with no tip doesn't feel as big a deal as when you're not high. Also, you sweat a lot less. Serving tables isn't rocket science, but it is multitasking and more physical than you think.
Uh. DUH. Welcome to MOST pizza restaurants. Especially if you're a delivery driver.
True facts. When I delivered pizza I was sometimes offered a bong rip as a tip. They knew.
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Ex starbucks barista.
-All the pastries come frozen and we defrost them. We think they're overpriced too, don't complain about the price, if it's too expensive for you then starbucks is not the place for you. Everything is overpriced here, DD is cheaper and even cheaper is just going to the grocery store
-Lots of syrups are made with milk and/or honey so they're not vegan; this is problematic for customer's who pay extra for soy milk because they want to avoid animal products
-Cleanliness and freshness really depends on the individual location. I worked at a 24/7 location with some of the highest traffic in the US (comparable to Times Square starbucks) and I assure you that hardly anything was properly sanitized and things were not always fresh. We tried but it's very hard to keep up with cleaning and such when you have 50 customers in line and people yelling at you wondering where their drink is
-If you're rude, chances are you might get decaf shots. Cause f**k you. Or if you're rude and you order a skinny drink someone might use real syrup (may it go straight to your a*s, b***h!) But no one would ever do anything other than this pettiness, it would be super f****d up to actually ruin someone's drink or make it gross
-If it's rush hour and you ask for a complicate drink, we hate you
-We're supposed to regularly check and log the temperatures of the milk carafes that are available for customers to use but we get so busy that the milk usually has been sitting out for hours, rising above safe temperatures.
-The ice machines are probably nasty. I don't think we ever cleaned ours in my 2 years there
-Iced coffees and iced teas are automatically sweetened using "simple syrup." You can switch for another syrup free of charge or ask for fewer pumps of syrup if you prefer it unsweetened.
-We're supposed to sanitize the foaming nozzle between drinks; the container holding the sanitizing agent gets super nasty very quickly from all the milk but it doesn't get switched often
-During rush hour, baristas often leave the milk jugs out rather than return it to the fridge between use because you're pouring milk literally every 30 seconds. Unfortunately this means the milk temperature rises above safe levels and bacterial growth duplicates
-Please don't order a special "secret menu" drink. There is no secret f*****g menu. Tell us what strips you want in it and we can make it but if you just tell us a ridiculous name (snickers crunch frappuccino!) chances are we have no clue how to make that and we probably will make it up. Which it probably will end up tasting fine anyways.. Unless you're used to having it made one way and suddenly someone makes it up using different ingredients
-When you approach the cashier, put down your phone and know what you want to order. Be polite not rude! It's crazy how many times people come up and are like "hold on, I'm getting a drink for my friend, let me call her real quick." Um no.
"Or if you're rude and you order a skinny drink someone might use real syrup (may it go straight to your a*s, b***h!) But no one would ever do anything other than this pettiness, it would be super f****d up to actually ruin someone's drink or make it gross" All i can think of is how some people can't have sugar for medical reasons... Sure, it's fun to be petty, but it's it still fun if that person ends up being admitted?
Totally agree and don't know why you were down voted. Never give a customer something in their food or drink that they were not expecting because you never know what dietary requirements they have.
Load More Replies...Every barista deals with most of this stuff. Leaving that milk out when you're using it so fast- it will NOT reach an unsafe temp before you can use it. Unless you are leaving it out for about 4 hours. If you're leaving it out because you're so busy- it won't go bad before it gets used. Giving someone decaf is a normal thing for people to do to d***s. But also it isn't even going to mildly hurt them. In fact- you can absolutely become more"awake" purely by thinking that you have been given caffeine. I also don't ANYONE thinks y'all make your food in store. You don't even have the equipment to do it. And just because you don't think that I'ce machine has been clean I damn near guarantee it has. It typically will be done after closing by a professional because you won't have any ice for about 4-6 hours. Starbucks are typically very on top of maintenance. And that sanitizing liquid that "cleans" your milk nozzle is totally pointless. Almost no other choice place uses a sanitizer.
In fact most places just uses a mildly wet cloth that only technically should be changed every 4 hours- per health code. That actual nozzle gets so hot that is essentially kills all bacteria anyway and the milk becomes dried on- not actually creating much bacteria at all.
Load More Replies...Maybe don’t use regular sugar for sugar free orders. I don’t mind some petty stuff but you don’t need to send a type 1 diabetic’s sugar through the roof.
Decaf is ultra processed using methylene chloride. It is NOT the same as regular and people have valid and legitimate reasons for avoiding it. Don't give customers things they didn't order. I'm a casino cocktail server and I don't care how rude you are, I'm not going to trick you into ingesting anything you're unaware of.
Thanks for putting real syrup in my diabetic friends coffee because English was not her first language and she comes over as abrupt.
It's mild revenge making swaps for decaf and sugar syrup, but I hate to say that's food tampering and in legal speak, assault. When I worked as a server, I had my fair share of pain-in-the-a*s customers but if got caught or a coworker rats me out for doing something deliberately to a customers order, bye-bye employment, references, and reputation. Not worth risking your job over some bad customers you won't care about in a few days time. Not saying bad customers don't deserve some form of karma, I'm saying don't let a bad customer sink you to their level, it's just not worth it.
"Don't be rude" ... the whole article is bossy with unnecessary swearing :/
There may not be a "secret menu" but when I worked at SB we had the Beverage Resource Manual that had instructions on how to make every drink Starbucks sells, Globally. So if you like a drink that's only available at SB in Spain, you can get it made in Seattle if you know about the manual.
Put down your phone, in general, anywhere you check out with a cashier. It's rude, so stop doing it
The only thing that is fresh and healthy, not pre-made, bagged and/or frozen at like all fast food places. Is the tomatoes.
Yeah, but the tomatoes also usually look sort of anemic and lack any discernible flavor.
I work at Taco Bell, and you DO NOT want to see how the meat comes into the store. The meat we use for the tacos and other things of the sort comes in big plastic bags labeled "Suitable for human consumption". They smell absolutely awful until we put the seasonings in. Yeah, don't go to Taco Bell.
Well, you'll certainly die . . .
Load More Replies...I worked for Taco Bell for five years and this is absolutely untrue. While the meat does come in bags, it is preseasoned and the boxes state 100% Grade A Beef. Pretty sure it would be an actual media free for all of the boxes stated suitable for human consumption because of the negative connotations associated with the phrase. Also the beans were originally freshly made in large pots but in the late 80s started coming dried with just adding water. Because dried beans are always cooked this way. Just. Add. Water. Who cares if they are whole beans being rehydrated or pureed beans being rehydrated.
"Grade A" beef is meaningless BS. Beef grades are Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, Commercial, Utility, Cutter and Canner. "Grade A" is what beef suppliers put on low-grade beef so they don't have to make it obvious that it's low grade beef.
Load More Replies...Of all the fast food chains, Taco Bell has absolutely the best vegetarian options. Coincidentally that works out perfectly for me 😉
We call the franchise Taco Smell, as some products smell somewhat like tacos.
Last time I had Taco Bell I had to make a mad dash for the washroom 20 min later.
Your bloodline is weak, and isn't worthy of Sto-vo-kor.
Load More Replies...I call b******t. No one is labeling meat with "safe for human consumption". Besides, the idea that meat from certain parts of an animal's body is somehow gross or unhealthy is really f*****g privileged. I get it if you don't want frozen meat (although you should know to expect it from a fast food chain) but don't throw a fit about the existence of cow genitals, because humans have been eating that s**t for as long as we've existed. You're lucky to live in a time when we know how to make it taste good.
The only time I've ever seen meat specifically labeled as "safe for human consumption" was when we went to a US Army summer holiday party in the mid 90's and the meat boxes were labeled "E for Edible." I'll never forget it.
Load More Replies...Ah, but if you find yourself at the magic hour of 3am and all liquored up, it is... sublime...
Not gonna say which chain but the one i used to work at was very clean and well managed. The only real secret we had was...well... Nobody was drinking the sodas they thought they were. We didn't use regular syrup in the fountain machines. If you ordered a coke, you got "panda cola". If you ordered a 7-up you got "panda lime-up".
Sorry...
Yep, my Mom's boss was a penny pincher and would but Sam's Cola (Walmart) in the coke machine at their office - better hope the distributor doesn't come by
Load More Replies...That's why I stay out of the Bored Panda chain of restaurants. You order from a menu of 75 dishes, then are told that you can't have your choice because in the meanwhile the menu had been edited down to the most popular 40 items. It's a shame, because I really like Lithuanian food.
But Bored Panda still have the rest of the menu, you just need to click on the wording at the end of the article, where it says it's been edited, and the rest of the 'menu' will show up. But I've never tried Lithuanian food.
Load More Replies...I'm assuming Panda cola is the name of the soft drink, like Coke or Pepsi?
Panda is a manufacturer, cola is just a general word. Coke and Pepsi are specific products.
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My ex use to work at Applebees. She told me that everything you eat there is pre-packaged and just microwaved once you order it, including the ribs and steak.
I feel like this would only surprise people who haven't eaten at Applebee's.
The ONLY time we ate at Applebees our appetizers were being served but our son was told his "was still in the microwave." The entire meal was subpar. Never went back.
But every now and then when I get paid, I gotta spoil my baby with an upgrade... Yeah, we fancy like Applebee's on a date night....
Stuff like this gets said like it's a bad thing. I get why it's a turnoff, but in a lot of ways this means that your food got carefully made in a lab grade environment where the spices and seasonings were measured out rather perfectly to meet the recipe that was designed. And for a lot of products this also means that they got to marinate for a long period of time as they froze and then later as they thought. And a lot of ways the end result can be excellent when you do things this way. Don't get me wrong... it can also be terrible.
Not true at all. Yes, majority does come in frozen but it doesn't come in cooked. Applebees have grills and flattops and ONE microwave and that's for desserts, not cooking. Burgers and Steaks are cooked at different temps per the orders, etc., so this wouldn't even make sense.
Restaurants with many food options on their menu, most of it is frozen food. Theres no way they could have so many choices fresh, they would have a lot of food waste. If you want a fresher meal, stick to places that have only a few options on their menus.
that is true of most chains and less expensive restaurants where there is a large selection of items on the menu...that is why bourdain and most professional chefs advise not to eat at most restaurants with a large menu b/c it's all frozen
Zoup! The Fresh Soup Company:
All the soups are frozen. They come in frozen and if there are leftovers at the end of the night they are refrozen and served another day. Pretty standard for fast - casual dining, but I found it unusual considering "fresh soup" is in the name.
This sort of fakery is illegal in civilised countries.
Load More Replies...I don't know if this needs to be said but no matter where you are eating, don't ever order soup at the end of the day. Fine dining, casual dining, fast food, or a deli. Soups are made in huge stock pots in the morning, individual servings are reheated throughout the day, and when they are out, they are out. Anything left at closing time has been congealing in the pot for 12+ hours. Just skip it.
You can refreeze meat without issue if you treated it properly. If you defrosted meat on the counter, than no. But in the fridge and it’s been less than 48 hours, you can refreeze. Hope this helps so you don’t waste food if something unexpected comes up disrupting your original dinner plans.
Load More Replies...I might be the minority on this but I prefer to know when the food is frozen because there is less chance of bacterial growth. Do you know how hard it would be to transport raw, fresh meat safely?
Same thing done at a local "Soup and Sand" shop that claims "fresh soup". It's fresh in that it starts as a frozen food service style soup base they add a few ingredients too before serving.
I'm not fast food, but I work at an Outback, and none of the servers practice anything like proper sanitation with the bread coming from the bread oven. No one has time to wash hands and use tongs and everything when grabbing bread, often even if you were just offloading dirty dishes at the dish pit.
And speaking of dishes, our dishwasher only works properly maybe 1/3 of the time, so the dishes you're eating on? Those were probably run through dish, came out still dirty, and were just wiped down with the same towel we've been using all night.
Then there's the ice machine. Last time I saw it properly cleaned was well over a year ago, when we found a serious black mold infestation in it, and I had to scrub it out by hand, with basically just hot water and a weak sanitizer.
TL;DR: Dirty hands, dirty bread, dirty dishes, dirty ice.
You know you can anonymously report your own restaurant, right?! That would be the right thing to do.
Not for long.. im sure all this stuff is gonna bite us on the a*s in the future
Load More Replies...Pro-tip for Americans: Don't ask an Australian about Outback Steakhouse unless you enjoy borderline racist rants full of expletives and questions about your sanity, mother's parentage, etc.
Sanitiser doesnt work on black mould. White vinegar is the one you want.
Not buying this. Food service and bussing are two separate tasks in a restaurant. You get splashed a LOT when you're cleaning plates, and the thought of sending someone soppy wet with dishwater to be the one to take the bread out of the oven is just absurd. I also can't buy that the dishwasher only works 1/3 the time, so they wipe the dishes clean. A restaurant dishwasher is so fast and so powerful.
I am so sorry to pop your bubble, I worked on a fine dinning restaurant for 5 years and just recently quit... yes serving and bussing are 2 different jobs but there's this days we are short staff or we are just too busy, that you will the either busser or server doing same thing, bussing then going for bread that is picked up with bare, dirty hands and of prepping desserts !!! Yes we night not get into the dishwasher area per say but still touching dirty plates then continue with your regular serving customers !!!
Load More Replies...I remember seeing a tiktok of a couple Aussie guys going to an outback steakhouse in the US, literally nothing on their menu is Australian, another reason not to go there.
Nobody in Australia has even heard of an Outback unless they see Americans talking about them online. There isn't even a specific type of Australian food. It's literally just a fusion of all the immigrant food cultures from the last 50 years, mostly various Asian, Mediterranean and Middle Eastern foods, with some French and English techniques and whatever is trendy at the moment.
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At KFC, we were supposed to change the fryer oil every couple days. Our penny-pinching manager had us change it every couple weeks. We'd just skim off the 'floaters' and cover it at night.
Charging the fryers that often is insanely frequent and unnecessary. You literally do not need to change it that often.
With that traffic, l'd say that longer than 5 days really affects the product you're frying
Load More Replies...I don't know what the average period is to change oil, but I do know it makes a difference in taste. A snackbar I frequent does it every night and their fries taste amazing. They're also doing very well in terms of business, lines often go around the block. Worth the wait imo.
I wouldn't buy fries from my local McDonald's, they tasted bitter because they never changed the oil.
I don't think you're telling the truth. Oil would never last that long.
OK, this is reaching way WAY back, but my first job was at a McDonalds in 1976. Our fryer oil was filtered every night, completely changed out every month. The filter machine had a circular filter that looked sort of like a piece of parchment paper about 2 feet across. We dusted that with some kind of white filter powder; I think that was to get the food bits in the oil to clump together so they'd be sure to get filtered out. When it came time to do the monthly oil replacement, we'd drain and clean the fryers, then put in the new "oil", which was actually some kind of lard/shortening mix? It came as 1-foot white gelatinous cubes wrapped in blue plastic. Took a few hours to melt down and come up to temp, so that usually happened while we were closed after we were done with the nightly cleaning of the restaurant, between 2am and 5am. I'm guessing things are completely different now.
Mc Donald's doesn't change there oil either they just run it through a filter and put it back in
you are supposed to filter the oil every night -- yes, there are filters for the oils -- and replace all the oil every few weeks...
I went to a McDonald’s franchise that did this. They ended up with tiny black fibers in their pill that looked like rat hair almost. They got reported to the health inspector.
McDonald's tea is just Lipton with 4 cups of sugar . Made in the morning right after the coffee.
So what? If you want a specific type of tea, go somewhere else. It's McDonald's, ffs!!
In the UK, tea served that way would result in a riot that no police force in the country would be willing to break up.
Load More Replies...We drink the hell out of iced tea down south. Guarantee you we know tea and McDonald’s tea is great!! I drink it without sugar or sweetener, and it still tastes great!!
This is turning into another Boston Tea Party! Y’all chill, okay? If we could have iced tea coming from our kitchen faucets we’d be in hog heaven. Southerners drink it like water. Lipton, Red Diamond, or Milo’s by the gallon jug. And whilst there may be some places on the planet where iced tea is not made fresh daily, I can assure that we Southerners always have to make more!!
Strange. Last time I ordered tea in a McDonald's inside a Wal-Mart - we buy their wild bird seed - I got a teabag and two sugar packets and a little milk thing. Had to get my hot but not boiling water from a spigot. This was in the middle of the pandemic. In western Canada. Wasn bad. Hot and wet and that's the standard we need for a cuppa when we're chilly.
Worked at Taco Bell in college.
The most disgusting thing was probably that salaried managers made about the same or less per hour than hourly wage employees.
There was really nothing unsanitary. The food is all low-quality cheap s**t, of course, but there's nothing actually *wrong* with it. I don't know how the hell people get sick after eating there; they must have incredibly weak digestive systems. There's never any raw meat in the store; it all comes pre-cooked and just gets warmed up.
Oh, actually, thought of one thing: the taco salad bowls are all fried up in the morning, so if you get one late in the day, it's been sitting in the warmer for a while. That's about it.
Sometimes the chalupa shells sit around a while, too. If you want fresh ones, just ask. It's appreciated if you come inside the store, though, so it doesn't affect the drive-thru times, as they take a couple minutes to fry.
I once lived near a California agricultural-service town that was supported by many Latino workers. That town featured several budget Mexican eateries with excellent food -- but the pathetic Taco Bell attracted out-of-town customers. Sad.
I miss those little local fast food type Mexican restaurants. There were some in Arizona I would frequent.
Load More Replies...Food Theory (a YouTube channel) did an episode on why Taco Bell makes you gassy. Turns out none of the reasons mean it's bad food, per se. It's just a perfect storm of gas-inducing factors.
I eat Taco Bell often, and I've never had any issues with it. I think it's more of a joke than anything actually truthful.
Taco Bell employees where I live don't make anything right. They hire college kids who don't give a damn.
This goes for most salaried people in fast food, fast casual and retail. Salaried in retail usually means working ungodly hours. I've turned down several salaried jobs as a manager in food service because I can do math and told them I'd work 50 hours per week and then receive OT and that it would need to be in my offer letter. Not a single one accepted my counteroffer. I stayed an hourly manager and made OT. Put my kid through private school as a single mom.
At the one I worked at, they also violated OSHA rules. We weren't given any breaks, and we had to eat while working. Not so bad when you're working the cash register, but pretty unsanitary when you're putting together tacos and burritos.
Whenever we have ingredients that is going to expire or just expired, we tell our cashiers to subtly "promote" certain foods when a customer seems unsure about what to buy.
This is not only standard most places. But actually smart and a good way to not waste product. The product isn't actually bad yet. It's good business practice.
Exactly. So long as the food hasn't actually expired what's wrong with trying to limit waste?
Load More Replies...I agree with the others who say this is pretty much a good thing. My dad got fired only once in his life, and it was for marking down all the expired ice cream to half Price and trying to clear it all out on the day it expired. He was pissed it was all going to waste, and management was pissed that he hadn't done it a day sooner. It was a big fancy chain restaurant so they had no choice but to let him go unfortunately.
The purpose of expiry dates, whether on food or medicine, is to increase sales. It is NOT about safety or health.
In some places you order and pay at the till, so might still be undecided, or your first choice might not be available.
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I saw a cook at Ihop f**k up an omelet and put the wrong sauce on it, he just washed it off in the sink and than tossed it back on the grill.
That seems reasonable. I'm more concerned with why the toast in the picture has a random hole in it.
food poisoning from different ihops before...so has another good friend of mine....never again
Add a little milk to your scrambled eggs before you cook you savages... Am i right or what?
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My brother services coffee machines in restaurants.
Never, *EVER* get coffee from McDonalds.
Ever.
Would be nice to know *why* we shouldn't get coffee there. Just because someone's brother services them, doesn't really turn me away...
They never get cleaned. And dont get me started on the cream dispener or oj machine
Load More Replies...Not so true.. UK here and worked in one of the busiest drive thru in the country 20 yrs ago. I genuinely think it's down to store manager, we never scrimped on cleanliness (I was 17 so not for the lack of trying to be lazy and scrimp) our store manager wouldn't allow it and checked everything... I now hate McDonald's as an adult and haven't eaten it in yrs but it's the only one I let my husband and daughter eat at.
here in Germany the McCafé is the BEST café I can find. Dark, with no sugar, "Schwarz und dunk'l!" it is tasty, flavoured, persistent, right point creamy. So, being I a coffee fan, wanted to find out why the McCafé near house was so good, and the second time I passed there I simply asked about. they told me that the official and unique McCafé sold in Germany comes from LAVAZZA Turin, Italy. A famous and good quality coffee brand, perhaps the better known in northern Italy I think.
Get out of here! It's Lavazza??? That certainly explains why it tastes so good! Do you know if that only applies to McDonald's in Germany or is it a universal thing?
Load More Replies...Turns out running boiling water through a tube helps keep it clean. This is not your office coffee machine, which sits unused all weekend.
I'd really like to know why, although it's probably safe to assume it has something to do with the machines never being cleaned. I only drink coffee that I brew at home and can't stand the taste of Starbucks, D&D, 7-11, etc. but McDonald's? McDonald's makes a surprisingly delightful cup of coffee! I rarely drink it but I'm curious to know the reason now.
Ive worked at a few McDonalds through out my life (usually as a place holder, till something better) and all the coffee machines I saw were Bun. Just your typical 10 cup coffee maker. Cleaned after morning rush. I trust the coffee over the fountain machine. But reconsider salads, parfaits. They tend to stretch the shelf life of those more often
there coffee was made in regular coffee pots when i worked there. but there is something gross the dish's they use to cook is washed by hand. no sanitizer no dishwasher it is done by people who don't care if it's clean and just want to go home.
mcdonalds cleaning standards are fairly high...and those machines are all taken apart and sanitisized every day....the dirtiest thing there and in most fast food places is the ice...
Candy man here. We left chocolate out in display cases for months on end. When my friends came by to the store I told them to avoid it at all costs.
If the temperature is not too warm it lasts even longer
Load More Replies...we used to get chocolates in ration packs that I'm sure were leftovers from Normandy.
Awww, C-Rations - fond memories. I'm sure the chocolate was likely the safest. Last ones I had actually had cigarettes!
Load More Replies...In the '80s, I ate MRE (army surplus) chocolate that was decades old. Being so old left it with a camouflage pattern on it that looked great in that context.
@Sans Serif, I too am from a vintage where 'chocolate cigarettes' were sold to kids
You can use the reply button @ing someone doesnt actually give them any notifications unfortunately
Load More Replies...A new grocery company took over a store in our area that closed, but then delayed and delayed opening, among the excuses were waiting on a liquor license. You could see that they had already stocked things, which made me wonder how long it was just going to sit there. They finally opened but didn't last long
i worked in a store and during the summer if they turned the air conditioner to high it would freeze and stop working candy in 90 degree heat melts
Isnt chocolate "bad" when it gets the white powder on it ( US chocolate for reference), like a chalky looking residue. Just asking.
The white stuff is just some of the natural oils from the cocoa. It's like leaving a lemonade out for awhile, and the pulp you didn't see before settles.
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I worked at mcdonalds, and the mcrib if left out raw, melts into a liquid
well, i guess anyone can do what it wants with the information given. Might be false, but...
Load More Replies...Mcribs are f*****g gross. They are liquid goo poured into a mold. So are their chicken nuggets.
All of it? That's some pretty high tech stuff to be able to make a liquid that, below a certain temperature, turns to a meat like consistency.
Cool. That is some neat science. I just wish they'd apply it elsewhere than making faux food
Load More Replies...I've seen the "how its made" on the McRib - I call bulls**t on this one. Untitled-6...97-png.jpg
My first job, at 16 years old, was at McD's and I ended up workking there almost 10 years. This assertion is categorically false. In fact, I call BS on most of the "reveals" in this post.
Then how can it go through the fryer before being served? Total b******t.
I find this hard to believe. If that were the case, it should melt on the grill.
I worked at Little Caesars in Sumner, WA. The “Cheese Pizza" cost $5.99 whilst the “Pepperoni Pizza" cost $5.99. The manager told me that it's that way because the customers are informed that more cheese is added onto the “Cheese Pizza”. This was a blatant lie as we put equal amounts of cheese on all the pizzas. The cheese is added before any other toppings. DOUGH-->SAUCE-->CHEESE-->WHATEVER YOU WANT TO IMAGINE. So you don't really know which ones are going to be baked as “Pepperoni”, “Vegetarian” , ”etc..”.
Well, the pepperoni customers got a good deal then. Legit, except for the lie!
I work at Culver's, and I'll still order most everything from the menu. In fact, my respect for them has grown and I consider them a top place to eat. Just don't order the salads. The ingredients are (for Cran Blue): A shit ton of lettuce 3 tomatoes 3 cucumber slices Handful of blue cheese Handful of cranberries Then the chicken is added. You're being seriously undercut on tomatoes and cucumbers, and the blue cheese and cranberries NEVER get changed out because no one ever orders them. So yeah, the cheese turns yellow-blue and the cranberries are rock-hard. Cool
I loved Culver's - sorry they're only a memory now that I'm in New England!
I worked at a starbucks where they allowed a full on roach infestation.
More on the DM and Managers then Corporate but it really got to a point where Seattle must have known.
They were everywhere.
The pastry case, in the storage, around the dry powders but the worst was a saw one (and just to make this clear, this 100% happened) crawl out of the espresso spout in the machines.
As employees, we were on the front line trying to defend our location even though a huge majority thought it was disturbing.
Eventually, one of our regulars put in a complaint at the health department.
It was about the time I put in my 2 weeks notice and my manager blamed me specifically for it.
I honestly didnt care.
Starbucks is a hilariously simple job with the hardest task consisting of lifting 10 lbs and the most complex task being holding a milk pitcher at an angle to create foam for milk.
TL;DR: Starbucks roach infestation, I got blamed for "whistleblowing" although i was innocent, I took the blame though because the job is a joke.
Well, aren't the powers that be trying to convince everyone to go to an insect-based diet? Get away from meat, they say. Eat more bugs! It's good for the planet. Starbucks just may be ahead of the times.
Geezus..judging by the picture, roaches are huge! I think there are roaches in Canada but you'd have a to have a horribly disgusting place to have them. (No offense Headless Roach)
I worked bbq in college. our meats were never frozen, but we did smoke them and reheat for service using a sous vide. unless you have someone smoking over night (which we occasionally did) it's almost impossible to guarantee not running out of things during dinner, and we found our customers were not satisfied when we ran out of things such as ribs for instance. it was a constant battle of trying to limit how much meat to smoke in advance vs cutting it close to have the freshest meats possible. but goddamn fresh off the pit ribs are heavenly. we never used the stoke the fire just for the smell trick. probably because my boss would lose it if we wasted anything, including our hickory logs. miss the hell out of that place.
Also not surprising. Smoking a brisket right can take like 24 hours, how do you make more for that for customers? Ribs are like 3 to 4. I sous vide my leftover home made BBQ for myself to heat it up. Sounds like a solid place Though I do freeze my own meat and BBQ, it's not the end of the world but of course better fresh made
Interesting. I think the takeaway for the rest of us is go to smoke houses where they actually run out of things from time to time, if not just straight up often. I used to live in a small town that had a smokehouse with a cult following. They ran out of things on a daily basis. I always just felt like that was normal and expected, because I know how meat is smoked, but I never really thought of it as indicative of quality. Good to know 👍
so back in high school I worked at a FF joint. I'd been setting up the soft serve ice cream machine, scooping it with a plastic spatula. Put spatula on counter next to french fry machine. Turned around with bucked, elbow hit counter. Plastic spatula fell into fryer. I ALMOST, ALMOST out of reflex, went to grab the spatula as it slowly melted/sunk into the oil. Manager walked up and put a basked of french fries in the fryer. I just stood there and didn't know what to do. TL;DR Ya'll ate some plastic coated french fries.
Same- what's a little plastic and Taco Bell gonna do?
Load More Replies...I worked nights at mickey d's. When we got bored we deep fried happymeal toys
I worked at a fried chicken joint during my teenage years. The owner refused to let us throw away chicken pieces that have gone bad to where you'd gagged if you smell them.
We battered them up, fried em and served them to unsuspecting customers.
That's a serious health code violation and will get you shut down asap over here.
Franchise shutdown would seem a significant risk for a few dollars of stock!
Load More Replies...I don't think I'll ever want to go to a restaurant again after reading this list...
First bite and they'll realise. But that one bite could send them to hospital tho
Short-rib flatbread pizza. We take leftover short rib from the previous night, shred it, put it on $0.05 worth of flatbread with a sprinkle of cheese and some diced red onion, and ship it out for $11.45. It's literally $10 profit. And people love it. We sell easily 20-25 every night as hot apps.
Don't eat the mayo!
Ask for it fresh!
A hair in your food is probably not from the head!
The hand washing signs displayed are to make the public feel safe, the workers don't actually wash their hands as much as they should.
If something other than the original ingredients falls into the food 99% will not notice, no reason to waste food ($) because somebody "Might" complain. A complaint only leads to half of the food wasted.
I still eat fast food. 🙃
Well since they said don't eat the mayo....
Load More Replies...My husband used to work in a gastro-pub in a well-to-do area where it was the only option. The baked Camembert. It was literally the Camembert from Aldi. £1 each. Baked and sold for £15 to share. Everyone was convinced it was some really posh continental fine cheese with a special Camembert oven or some shit. Nope, they could do the exact same thing at home for a pittance of the price.
This is how restaurants work. They buy stuff, do something to it, and sell it at a higher price. If they sold it at the same price they bought it, how would they pay the rent? Pay the staff? If you want Camembert for the lower price, eat at home. Not sure about some of these posts, they seem to have been written by children.
No, that’s not how decent restaurants work. Buying cheap stuff and doing nothing on it except reheating is not cooking. Selling it with a 1500% markup price is a scam. Cookery is selecting good products (not necessarily expensive but definitely not sold at low cost retail shops) and transforming them with actual skills and know-how. Only that justifies the price.
Load More Replies...So they should resell for cost? Markup is a thing where the cost of running a business and profits are figured into everything on the menu. Aldi's is quite nice, btw.
All those people forget the other costs involved from making the dish. The cook who's breading and frying that cheese doesn't work for free. The energy the oven runs on isn't free, the water used to clean the countertop isn't free, the dishwasher doesn't run on nice thoughts, the car that's used to drive to aldi doesn't run without gasoline. The cheese on itself might only cost a buck, but I tell you, if you tried to make a living by selling baked camembert for two bucks or less, you'd be out of business in a few weeks. Even if the cook only made minimum wage, his wage alone in the time it costs to make that camembert is more than a buck, because making this dish is time consuming, and no amount of professionalism can change that.
As well as the other intelligent comments, you are paying for the experience, the location. Buying anything that then needs eggs, flour, crumbs, oil, a stove and time is no longer 1 pound, on top of that Camembert is a cheese type and whether from aldi, the farm down the road or flown on the back of a unicorn to your mansion, it is still Camembert. I am yet to have had the price make enough impact on taste... especially if fried. Lol at Camembert oven, I think the writer was more delusional than the customers they assumed were stupid.
Just because you don’t know something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Ovens designed for cheese or gratins do exist and make a difference. Obviously you won’t find them anywhere as the UK. But French, Italian or Swiss cooks would laugh at you.
Load More Replies...I used to cook at a seafood restaurant and without a doubt it was the lobster rolls. We used hardly any filler in them, basically all lobster and i still couldn't believe what we were selling them for.
I see absolutely no problem here other than not knowing where I should be headed for lunch?!
When we run out of cheesecake someone draws a straw to walk to the Publix across the street to buy more.
This has been pretty much been explored to death on this list and, Publix does make a pretty decent cheesecake. Next?
I worked for Edible Arrangements for 2 years and worked every position there. Delivery driver in a pinch, chocolate dipper, fruit skewer-er, arranging arrangements, dealing with costumers.. ofter all of those positions on the same day since there was only two people working at my store at one time (excluding driver) and my manager only trained me to do everything because he was too lazy most days to do it.
We often get mushy/moldy strawberries from our distributers. If it's just a little bloop of mold (strawberry still looks big and red otherwise) we'll dip it in chocolate and hide the mold. When they are starting to secrete red goo, that's actually when they're the sweetest. But most people think that since they aren't pretty that they taste bad. So we blot the liquid off and dip it in chocolate. Just short of a pure mold shapeless blob, it's used. Also, they're **never** washed. As in ever.
Pineapples are fresh and chopped every day but unfortunately not all pineapples are sweet because we all know that b******t can't be controlled. Even if it's sour/tart, we will use it and just hope no customer calls and complains. Same thing with honeydew and cantaloupe.
If you want a replacement, we will happily oblige as long as you have not eaten the entire damned thing. If there's not 98% of the fruit still there, you will not receive it because clearly it wasn't *that* bad. Call as soon as you find out. Not a week later. Not even a day later. The sooner, the more likely we can replace it. Same thing if you just want a refund for the sender. There must be a 98% remainder.
Apples are 98% fresh and good. But a lot of the time they're bruised and we hide it with chocolate.
Bananas are bought from the food market next door. They can be practically black (the inside) or peel completely green and we'll use them if we have no other option.
Grapes will often times be moldy. We just put it under a high pressure hose and knock it off.
The chocolate isn't gourmet. It's Hershey's. Yes, it's cheaper to make it yourself. You're paying for the pale and someone else to do it for you.
Yes, we fully understand that the prices are outrageous and can't believe people pay it. But I personally also find a weird pride/joy to see how high I could get someone to go. I could sell a condom to a nun. (Highest average sales for almost a year straight). Please understand that deliveries AREN'T TIMED. We have more than one costumer a day for deliveries and you're not special. If you want it by a certain time, *pick.it.up*. No. the driver will *not* sit there for 15 minutes waiting for you to come home. You knew we were coming today. So if you have to leave, put a cooler out and in the shade with a note of the door. The driver does NOT want to working at 7pm still because you think you're so special that we should be waiting for you specifically.
Please do not have your kid try and sign our clipboard or make an order in the store. I 100% understand that you want your kid to be better at stranger interaction/ordering. But I'm not the person to do that to. I get you think it's adorable to try and force your child to sign our clipboard, especially if the bouquet is for them, but it's not as cute as you think. And when it takes you 2+ minutes to wrestle your child into sort of making a signature; we don't think that's cute. We see it as a time eater. We have 15+ other deliveries in a 100mi radius of the store. Usually none of them near each other. So when each person thinks they're kid is special and is "only" going to take extra time, it adds up. Time I could be making to a toilet.
Lastly, we call the day before or morning of to tell you the delivery is going out. It *only* goes out if you, the receiver, OKs it. So you know it's coming between 12-5. PLEASE tell them if you live up a large hill that isn't plowed (a big problem in my area). Our truck CANNOT make it. Also, if it's for a time sensitive delivery; tell us. We will try but under no circumstances will we garuntee it. We will try our best and if we simply cannot, we will tell you. Please do not stomp your foot like a child. Sorry the world doesn't revolve around you.
TL;DR uses moldy fruit and conceals it with cheap Hershey's chocolate. Also, be home for delivery.
Load More Replies...So youre saying the product is trash and the clients are too but its ok to be a trash worker if you make good money and get the best sales... Guess Ill never use Edible Arrangements
Sound like a total jerk. However the strawberry piece is accurate. I grow a bunch of them and there is a very close line between sweetest most delicious and terrible tasting. Can be a day or less depending on environment. Also most organic strawberries aren't perfect looking anyway. I routinely cut 25% off the ones I eat because one side sat in a little water or a bug, bird, or slug got to a bit. Though I always wash them thoroughly
What about moldy ones...cut it off or chuck it?
Load More Replies...I worked for a company that must have got a bulk deal with Edible Arrangements because they started ordering them instead of a box of donuts for your department on you birthday. As someone who is not a fan of donuts but loves fresh fruit I was happy, until I tried the fruit. A lot of us thought it tasted like it was sprayed with a chemical. After about 4 months they went back to donuts.
Where I used to work sold a pint of pepsi for £4. It made me sad. Thirsty family comes in and orders a pint of cola each for the parents and a half each for 3 kids? £14. That's 2 hours wage for me.
That is ridiculous considering its basically water with sugar but I'm noticing that here too with the prices.
Friend of mine used to work at Subway, aparently the chicken comes in vacum packed from Thailand with a 2 year sell by date.
Go ahead and buy it. It's not like the story came from a friend of their cousins sister.
Load More Replies...Our manager is really stingy when it comes to throwing away food. He will keep leftover eggs from breakfast and use it the next day and if any of the food on the line looks dry or is starting to look thick he'll just poor a little water in it and there you go, "fresh" beans! Sometimes when we receive the truck full of veggies the tomatoes are really squishy and brown. I work at Taco Cabana and luckily for you guys there only located in Texas.
Ones in shady areas, those ones usually thin their beans and other c**p and don’t taste as good. The chips will be stale also.
Load More Replies...I went to a marching band practice and went to taco cabana. Love that place to death but eew, still tastes good. That’s why I only get two things. Steak nachos with shredded cheese instead of queso, and a bean burrito.
Idk what you qualify as disgusting, but i worked at a quiznos. My boss told us to skim on everything. Take off at least an inch for each size breads, put less meat, put less veggies, less sauce. When we had coupons, she'd take off meat after they'd pay if she didnt see them in their hands beforehand. It was pretty horrible, but i never skimmed as much.
Places like that give the managers bonuses for keeping food cost down. He isn't going to eat it and he doesn't care.
I was just wondering about managers and bonuses. I dont work in the food business but swear our boss gets bonuses for how much work we take in..problem is we dont have enough staff for all the work so they are pushing folks into health issues, burning out and quitting...all so the higher ups can make more money. I really hate her for doing that to us and I dont even like to say that about people but here we are. I do believe that what comes around goes around and they will all get theirs.
Load More Replies...Chick Fila is generally pretty good for freshness and quality. That said, the chicken fridges were horrible for the workers. Chicken came in frozen, and you loaded the frozen bags in metal pans and put in the fridge to thaw. As it thawed, chicken blood/juices/whatever would spill out and collect at the bottom of the fridge. Has to clean up like an inch of sticky gunk at the bottom. Sometimes it would then dry up hard. We'd clean it every day, but damn, chiseling dried chicken blood is really not fun. This was like 20 years ago. I hope it's different now.
This is the most overrated fast food restaurant on the planet. I just don't get it. It's a mediocre chicken restaurant, but people here act like they'll die if they don't get their daily fix. Plus, the politics of the place are insane. Right wingers, who donate a lot of money to strip fellow humans of rights. Ex: very anti-choice and anti LGTBQA. Some customers act like they're in a cult. I had a boss once who wouldn't try the Popeye's chicken sandwich, far better than Chick fila's, because he felt some sort of weird loyalty to the place. Like going to Popeyes would be cheating. Smh
When I was 17 I worked at a certain taco fast food restaurant for a whole 3 weeks. I cleaned things and often would stir the sloppy moist taco beef in the giant kettle. It was often close to overflowing and many times some would fall on the (filthy) floor. I was told directly to pick it up and out it back in, as the heat would burn off any bacteria it may have picked up on the floor.
If the cooks replace all the oil in the fryers with fresh oil the food tastes like shit for a day or two. The trick is to replace about 75% of the oil with fresh oil. You have to leave 25% of the old stuff in so that the "flavor" that people expect is there. Also, only the oldest guys are usually the ones that change the oil because it's heavy, hot/dangerous, and back breaking work. Therefore if that guy isn't on schedule for a while the oil isn't getting changed. So even though it's supposed to get changed weekly it can go a month without being changed easy.
I agree new oil always tastes like s**t. I've worked at a few places with fries and specifically with Arby's it was the worst when we changed the oil. New oil makes French fries taste terrible! Same with Chinese food. Hate going in late and they have cleaned all the pans. The fried rice always taste flavorless and just not as good.
15 years experience in a kitchen here... This is outright false... If your customers want a dirty grease flavor to their fried food then their palettes are basic af
Valid question...why do you think they are lying?
Load More Replies...Worked through lots of fast food jobs over my years before I had enough lets see what i can add. McDonald's Coke is actually stored in its own co2 mixed tank unlike the rest of the fountain drinks which come as 5 gallon syrup boxes. In 2014 or so they changed the Sweet Tea from 1 bag of sugar on a 5 gallon bucket to the soda syrup style. Always order off the grill or out of the oil if you visit after like midnight (if stores even stay open late night anymore for you) as the grill person typically will not put down new product all the time due to the amount of tasks they have to complete. Wingstop garlic Parmesan is garlic sauce, and a bunch of butter with shake Parmesan on top. The bone in chicken is shipped in 40 pound boxes and kept in a standard refrigerator while the boneless is always froze. The floors behind the counter are death traps of grease regardless of how many times they clean it. After fry oil spills on it every week it just doesn't care about degreaser anymore. If you were to walk back there with regular shoes and a bit of water you could skate the length of the kitchen. Always always make sure that if you are promised a raise or promotion that you check up on it immediately. I was screwed out of a whole dollar for 6 months before covid hit while i worked as an assistant manager at one Mexican place. Late night delivery drivers only get upset about your last minute orders if you tip like shit. The fact that most of the crew is high school kids that have to leave by 11pm when the place closes at 2am leaves 4 hours of work for typically a manager and up to 3 drivers. 4 hours of stacking dishes with nobody to clean them and the mess of making pizza results in 2 to 3 hours of cleaning for the closing crew. As a late night driver i typically worked from 5pm to 4am 5 days a week, please tip y our drivers well. It gets brutal out there.
The peanut butter topping at DQ just sits in a big metal container and hardly, if ever, gets used. And in my time there it never got switched out. Sitting there the oil eventually separates and when someone actually wants something with peanut butter it's a b***h to pump out (actually it's impossible I just had to use a spoon) and needs to be stirred to mix it back in with the oil. Idk if this is at shocking as some other nasty secrets but it grossed me out, and made me sad because I love PB. Oh and the frothy s**t at Orange Julius is just salt and powdered egg and some mysterious dairy extract. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking anything there could ever be considered healthy.
The oil will separate in natural real peanut butter. It's the stuff that doesn't separate (Kraft for example) that is nasty. I tried some of that the other day...does not taste like peanut butter and the texture was, just wrong.
Secret Menu's don't really exist, maybe sometimes you get lucky and get what you wanted but most of the time the cashier would tell you that we don't have it.
KFC worker here. Our gravy base is made of the stuff we scrape off the inside of the deep fryer. Yum.
Bs. You're telling me y'all actually take the time to drain the oil frequently - which is crazy expensive if you do it that often. And you somehow have pans and a cook that takes the time to make gravy and it tastes the same all of the time. Basically not possible.
You FILTER the oil and put it back in. You don't use new oil every time. 🙄
Load More Replies...Any fast food place filters their oil regularly and then replaces it every so often there's a schedule for all of it.
not a chef, but if a takeaway in the UK serves multiple things, you can garauntee only one of those things is any good. and it's never the pizza
I worked at Sonic in high school. DO NOT, EVER, GET THE GRILLED CHICKEN. Sure it's grilled. From a frozen chicken patty. After it was cooked, it was then thrown into a steam broiler to keep it warm. The rule book said replace them every 2 hours, but my manager would yell at me if I pulled them out earlier than 4 hours. After 2 hours, the chicken becomes hard and rubbery and tastes like c**p. Besides that, the worst thing about that place was the floors were greasy as f**k and even proper work shoes didn't help prevent slipping.
When I was a pizza cook my boss at a Pizza Pro franchise told me that "explosive diarrhea" was not a good enough reason not to come in and put my hands in the ingredient bins and then place toppings on pizza dough that I had just kneaded.
I worked at Subway for 2 years. Every meet we have (besides Roast Beef) is turkey based. Even ham. You never get what you think you're getting. Also, if anyone wants to know the inner workings of Subway, feel free to ask!
They've . . . actually been investigated recently for their tuna not containing enough tuna. Don't know what the outcome was, but you're right - it probably wasn't turkey. 😉
Load More Replies...They were once pretty upfront about the turkey component, even advertised it as a health advantage. Have things changed?
I don't know if anyone will be able to shed light on the quality of a chain vs the quality of local management. I used to work at chick fil a and most employees were just dumb teenagers so things weren't always done by the book, mostly in regards to hold times or whatever. Like the hold time is 20 minutes and it might stay out 30 minutes before going in to the bin to be made into chicken salad. But I justified it to myself by thinking if you cooked at home, set out food for dinner, ate with your family, and then refrigerated it, the leftovers you make the next day world have gone through worse conditions and that's without a heat lamp. Also we had a lot of paper and food waste
You have 4 hours not in proper temp before food is considered unsafe. You're completely fine
Absolutely, unequivocally wrong. 2 hours is the rule of thumb given a moderate ambient temperature. If ambient temperature is 90F/32c or higher, you only get ONE hour. If the temperature of the food is between 40-140F, bacteria can and will grow and thrive. While it's technically safe to leave a WHOLE ROTISSERIE chicken at room temp for up to four hours, it's still not advised as exterior and interior temperature differences can still cause bacterial growth. It's not just the bacteria you have to worry about, it's the waste chemicals they produce as they can't be removed from reheating.
Load More Replies...If you were a dick in the drive-thru, your food 100% got spat on or "accidentally" dropped on the floor. Managers partook, too. I didn't, personally, but maybe that's 'cos I was too busy shoveling fries into boxes. I guess it ain't a secret 'cos everyone suspects, but I thought it was a myth TBH. Was kinda stunned.
....I'm sorry you're either lying or worked somewhere incredibly disgusting. You don't screw with people's food. Worst I've ever seen done on purpose working hospitality across the board is either a weak drink when you're being an a*s, less chips/whatever on your meal or maybe a decaf when you were rude to your barista.
My oldest kid worked at McDonalds for a year or so (she worked drive-thru). This was a couple of decades ago....anyway, if they got a rude customer they would spit in their food -- don't ever be rude to restaurant workers!
Back then, around decades ago. Rats, roaches , people not washing their hand are a thing, wether it has changed,I do not know. I can’t believe I worked like a horse for such misery pay.
I used to work at Wendy's, and the chilli is the worst. It's saved for up to two days, made with ground up patties, microwaved for 7 minutes, and sometimes the patties used are the ones left over from the day before. Which then get ground up and microwaved. I want to vomit just thinking about it.
A few posts above it was seen as something good that they don't waste food. And seriously people, if it's properly refrigerated, meat doesn't go bad in one single day (not including fish of course). Stop the food waste!
Who throws away food after two days? I don't want 3 day old sushi but burgers are fine. It's like half these posts people don't understand how food is grown, stored, transported, or produced.
Load More Replies...The best chili sits for a few days. Gives the meat & beans time to break down & flavors to blend
As long as the meat patties aren't left out in blistering heat overnight, and they're refridgerated, it's fine. Like, all these people complaining about restaurants repurposing food, have they never had leftovers at home? What do we do at home with the leftovers? Shove them in the fridge, eat them the next day, no explosive diarrheas. How is it any different for a restaurant? Food properly refridgerated, can last for more than a day or two.
I worked at McDonald’s for like two months and when someone dropped fries on the floor they didn’t care and put it in the box anyway
Secret recipes aren’t nearly as secret as you think they are. Most of what I’ve seen can be found with a name brand at your local market. Worked at a pizza place in high school and the place received a lot of buzz over something done with the pizza crust that people liked and having really good hot wings and cake. The pizza crust was glazed with store bought garlic butter. The wings that people raves over were “Great a value” wings, and the cake was Pillsbury cake mix.
We serve "hot fresh baked pretzels" for $8.95. We get em by the case frozen. Roughly $75 per box. 100 per box. We get 33 orders per box and one to eat while figuring out math. 33 orders X $8.95 = 295.35. So profit is 220.35 (minus the cost). So with that 220.35 we pay the electric, gas, rent, taxes, staff, equipment, etc. And thats assuming we sell all 33 orders of pretzels. Stan my line cook eats an order. Boom, down to 32. Jose burned an order. Down to 31. Barb sneaks one home in her purse. 30 orders. 3 pretzels are broken in the box. Down to 29. So our 220.35 just went down to 184.55 pretty quickly...and very easily.
Arbys roast beef is actually made out of a gelatinous paste, collected and excreted by an exotic sea mollusk that is farmed en masse upon the shelf of the mariana trench.
It's best not to eat too much of it.
Incorrect. Why? They'd have to put a seafood warming on it for allergies and they can't call it beef if it contains none at all
I detected sarcasm in the OP. Meanwhile, do marine mammals require 'seafood' warnings or can we just nosh on baby seals?
Load More Replies...I laugh that they call it "roast" beef - at best, it is boiled or steamed.
No no. I currently work there and it is definitely cooked in the oven for a few hours.
Load More Replies...Omg my friend used to work there and she told me that the reason it's sliced so thin is because of this. If you sources it any thicker people would realize it's horrifying. I have never been able to eat there again after she sent me a picture
It's only a viable alternative covered in Horsey Sauce!
Load More Replies...I worked at Taco Bell. The cinnamon twists are fried pasta, when we say we are out of something we really are, and finally we don’t give two shits about how your good is made if you claim it’s wrong we’ll give you the exact same thing you gave us to fix it just in a new bag because you were probably an asshole
Here's one: Wood chips and saw dust make great disinfectants. In the old days, they used to keep butcher's floors covered in them. Eventually, they'd get full of meat juice (which is not actually blood), and you'd have to replace the chips, but you'd be surprised how long businesses went between such cycling. Supposedly this was done away with for food safety, but it was actually safer than what replaced it. There were *other* reasons they did away with this.
No, they're not. My husband repairs commercial/restaurant equipment. These are mild examples by comparison.
Load More Replies...What's the lesson here? Go eat at the local mom and pop restaurant. Nothing is mass quantity and the food is almost always so much better because it is homemade.
No, because that one person said they were the dirtiest. But then all those other people said fast food was gross too, so I guess eat at fine dining places only?
Load More Replies...My husband is a refrigeration engineer (kitchen mechanic). I have a list of places we're not "allowed" to go to. He will verify the ice machine stories.
What did I get from reading this thread? Never have cold drinks with ice. Lucky me. Grew up in England where warm beer is drunk and ice just dilutes the good stuff. Thinking back to ice freezers in cheap hotel corridors when our kids were little. Omg.
What's up with the downvote trolls? Save the downvotes for comments that are actually hurtful, not just inane or something you don't agree with.
These were not the "secrets" I was expecting, but good to learn anyways.
That's why no one felt sorry when these cr.ppy "businesses" broke during covid pandemic.
Here's one: Wood chips and saw dust make great disinfectants. In the old days, they used to keep butcher's floors covered in them. Eventually, they'd get full of meat juice (which is not actually blood), and you'd have to replace the chips, but you'd be surprised how long businesses went between such cycling. Supposedly this was done away with for food safety, but it was actually safer than what replaced it. There were *other* reasons they did away with this.
No, they're not. My husband repairs commercial/restaurant equipment. These are mild examples by comparison.
Load More Replies...What's the lesson here? Go eat at the local mom and pop restaurant. Nothing is mass quantity and the food is almost always so much better because it is homemade.
No, because that one person said they were the dirtiest. But then all those other people said fast food was gross too, so I guess eat at fine dining places only?
Load More Replies...My husband is a refrigeration engineer (kitchen mechanic). I have a list of places we're not "allowed" to go to. He will verify the ice machine stories.
What did I get from reading this thread? Never have cold drinks with ice. Lucky me. Grew up in England where warm beer is drunk and ice just dilutes the good stuff. Thinking back to ice freezers in cheap hotel corridors when our kids were little. Omg.
What's up with the downvote trolls? Save the downvotes for comments that are actually hurtful, not just inane or something you don't agree with.
These were not the "secrets" I was expecting, but good to learn anyways.
That's why no one felt sorry when these cr.ppy "businesses" broke during covid pandemic.
