Some places we visit stick with us for many years to come. We carry the memories as patches for soul soothing, and time and again we go down memory lane by revisiting them like it happened yesterday.
Some places, destinations, cities and entire countries are exactly the opposite. Not only do they not make a lasting impression on us, they surprise us in a rather unpleasant way. So today we’re taking a look at what countries smashed people’s expectations the most and they realized they’re not stepping foot there again.
Thanks to this thread “What is one country that you will never visit again?”, we have a lot of interesting stories to uncover, so scroll down below. Interestingly, the country that most people referred to as a place they wouldn't like to go back to was Egypt.
The thread was also picked up by the awesome Reddit community of Data Is Beautiful, where one of the users gathered people’s responses and made this visual map you’ll find below.





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Japan
Japan.
I'm fat, black, and none too cute. Older people spit at me, no one would sit next to me on the train (or would make it painfully obvious they were uncomfortable during rush hour(s)), young people (adults/teens/older kids) had no filter and would happily laugh at, make faces, or even throw things at me (though that was only in Shibuya). It was hard for me to get work as a teacher, even with my training and credentials, because I had to have my picture, and no one wanted a black (and ugly) teacher. I felt like a monster the entire time and slowly shut myself away until I had quit my jobs and only left at night to get to get food from a convenience store. The last time I went outside during the day in Japan, I was going to cancel my cellphone plan before I left, and there kids/teens pointed and laughed before running away screaming I was a monster. I was mortified when the adults looked at me and I could hear them go "well, look at her."
It took me 4 months back home to leave my apartment during the day in the states. I didn't go thinking I'd be loved, just thought I'd have a nice experience in my twenties. Japan is a modern, beautiful country with some wonderful people, but I just didn't get lucky enough to meet them. My pet peeve is when I mention this, people go "oh, Japan was great to me!" "you must of done something wrong..." I'm glad you had a good time. I hope the next person as a great time too, but this happened to be my experience, that's all.
isaberre replied:
that's horrible, and I'm also not surprised. I have heard from people that being black in Japan is really rough. People who say you "must have done something wrong" are ridiculously ignorant
WarMaiden666 replied:
I am not Black, but I am fat. I lived in Japan for three years. I actually wasn’t even that fat when I first got to Japan. But the way I was treated immediately changed. It made me stay home almost the entire time I was there, and since I stayed home almost exclusively I gained more weight. When people ask me about my time there I’m honest and I get the same responses as you.
Pippikapon replied:
I wanna apologise for my people. Shibuya is probably one of the s**ttiest ward in Tokyo for me and I grew up in Tokyo. That place is filthy but the people are more filthier, they really represent the worst of us. Young people are judgmental people with s**t manners, old people are just plain xenophobic, then there are those far-right ultranationalists.
This is the side of Japan I want everyone to be aware of. A lot of us are kind, polite and courteous but there's a lot of us who are just plain a**holes.
The Japanese can be extremely racist and xenophobic. As a 6'3", 220 pounds white man with a white beard and white hair (I am old, 71, have lived here since 1979) my heart goes out for you.
One of my professors told the class in Chinese history that the most racist cultures in the world are Asian. He said it is because the cultures do not "accept" other cultures or races as "equals" but as lesser peoples. He said, and I'll never forget, "it isn't about color or sex or anything like that it is about race." He said that there are Korean families who have lived in Japan for over six centuries who are still considered to be "low life" foreigners. And it is the same in all Asian countries and he said "make no mistake about it, Russia [then the Soviet Union] is an Asian country, too."
When I took a culture of Japan class as part of my anthropology degree, my professor, who had lived in Japan off and on for decades, told us that there is a belief that anyone not Japanese can speak/learn the language correctly. She told us about going to buy train tickets, speaking clearly in Japanese and being responded to in Japanese... Until the clerk saw she was white and immediately switched to bad English, even after my professor continued to speak in perfect Japanese. It is taught that it is simply impossible for anyone other than a Japanese person is even remotely capable of learning and speaking the language. She also mentioned how insular the country as a whole was and how to expect to be treated as a non-Japanese person if visiting.
Load More Replies..."Japan is a modern, beautiful country with some wonderful people, but I just didn't get lucky enough to meet them." That's because they're far and few between. Racism is actually legal in Japan. It's legal to deny housing to non-Japanese people. That anyone would consider Japan a viable option for having a good time when they're not one of them is just naive.
This is disappointing. I’ve always wanted to go to Japan but I might think twice about it now.
Please go, do your own experience. At least you will never have regrets :) I went there for 2 weeks, Tokyo an Kyoto, met wonderful people. Even when lost, people would stop to help me. Japan may not be perfect, but tell me which country is.. Ahah! Anyway, I am sure you will love it ;)
Load More Replies...Yup, can confirm what Pippikapon says. I've met wonderful and kindest people who helped my sorry a*s when I got completely lost outside in the mountains at night with no means of communication) as well as those who approach you while you're minding your own business, start a friendly conversation and then proceed to grab you by the aforesaid sorry a*s (which was, by the way, dressed in business attire. Also, in plain daylight, at a large train station, not some kind of a night club or anything). Really sorry for the OP, there is literally nothing she's done to deserve such disgusting treatment, shame on those people! Hope she feels better now and wish her to meet many wonderful and kind people!
Sadly, none of this surprises me. I went to Tokyo a few years ago and was STUNNED at how rude people were outside of places of business (where they are required to be polite to the point of annoying this New Yorker). I'll never go back.
Same here. And i was groped on the subway! I will never go back to Japan again.
Load More Replies...Well that’ll cancel my plans wanting to go to Japan. I’m overweight and have no desire to be fat shamed in public. How unfortunate.
Go to Iceland instead. Beautiful country and culture. Super safe and accepting.
Load More Replies...I'm so very sorry that you had such a terrible experience in Japan. I'm half Canadian half Japanese and have lived in Japan for the past 20 years. I've also experienced something similar throughout my life although not as bad. I look Japanese, but was bullied badly at school because of my foreign surname. Ended up changing it to my mother's name after my dad passed because I was being harrassed all the time. It's sad but it's true that many people here are hateful towards fat people. I was a bit overweight until a few years ago, and the way people used to treat me is insane. Rude remarks from strangers, being laughed at, being tripped on the bus/train etc. There are nice people, but it's still very much a small shut off island culture.
Egypt
JESUS_CNT_KICK said:
Egypt. Honestly, I didn't like the vibe from the locals.
jiggamathing replied:
My 17-year-old sister got molested from behind by a local while going into the pyramid tomb at Giza. You have to hunch over and move a single file through a narrow dark tunnel, with people in front and people behind. You can’t turn around or go backwards. The man behind her escaped as soon as she got out of the tunnel, crying. My dad who was a few people ahead of her in the single file line could do nothing when he heard her yell out.
CleanAxe replied:
Egypt seems to be mentioned a bunch so far and I'd like to +100 that. I've travelled to over 15 countries and Egypt was the first that came to mind when I saw the title. A nice man sitting next to me on a bus to Cairo had the s**t kicked out of him by police at the Suez Canal checkpoint - they literally were punching him in the face as hard as they could while he was in the chair next to me begging them to stop until they dragged him off never to be seen again probably. Like people are bashing Morocco because of beggars or annoying negotiating tactics, but in Morocco I at least never once feared for my safety or the safety of my group once while in Morocco. You can travel that country relatively freely and have a decent enough time if you go to the right spots and have a "meh" time if you go to the wrong ones. Egypt crosses a totally different line, especially given the fact it is still considered somewhat a "tourist destination" and not lumped in with Syria/Afghanistan/Iraq etc. I'd definitely say it should be widely considered and grouped closer to Afghanistan or Syria than say Israel or Turkey.
The pyramids area was absolutely disgusting, so many people there to f**k you, mistreated camels, little children crawling through garbage piles. If you are a woman or have a woman in your group then holy f**k it's even worse. It is impossible to stay out past sunset as the danger and sketch levels go to 100. And I'm not just being "sensitive" - people assault and harass women, they'll berate you etc. I was so lucky I "looked Egyptian" (according to them) while I was there and it still didn't help much. F**k Egypt man. My good friend is Egyptian, amazing history, some great people for sure, but f**k that place (and he agrees 100% - especially since he's a Coptic Christian).
Two good things there:
1. Great swimming and chilling on the Sinai (went to Bir Sweir near Israel and it was not bad at all)
2. Some of the museums were pretty f*****g cool
MrFluffyHair replied:
I get it. As an Egyptian, I get it. Even I get harassed for money and even Egyptian women get harassed too. The comments about Egypt are both disgusting and true. The only way to enjoy Egypt as a tourist is to visit with a tour, or be with local friends who can fend off harassment. On the behalf of all decent Egyptians out there I apologize to the world.
Anon replied:
Locals are absolute creeps to women.
A an European Egypt is not so far away when taking a plane. But what I've heard and from time to time saw an documentaries, its not worth a visit. If you don't stay in your guarded hotel and being on a guarded bus tour to the pyramids or the lovely coral reefs there is no need to visit this country as a women! Though I remember times, the 90s and early 2000s, when things obviously have been different and a lot of people enjoyed their vacation there... But honestly I'm not going onto a vacation to be harrased and molested, there are so much other destination out there. (And I'm sorry for all the true, honest and truthful Egypts.)
It's a country I'll never go back to. I've never felt so unsafe, even though I was with my partner at the time. I'm middle aged and dress modestly (personal preference), and I have never been grabbed at, touched or rubbed against in the way that I was on holiday here. It stopped me going out-even the presence of my husband didn't deter men from laying hands on me. I'm usually fairly confident and I've no trouble walking around on my own most places, but I ended up spending most of the holiday staying in the hotel compound.
Me too...it was an awful experience, almost exactly like Mabelbabel said...also getting locked in shops and harassed to try and get money from us, scary all round
Load More Replies...WELL THEN, as a solo female traveler, Egypt is off the list, because I guarantee I would get violent with any creep. I don't freeze, I don't fawn, I FIGHT.
I agree it should not be on your list, but your statement doesn't sit well with me. I know you don't mean it that way, but it borders on victim blaming. Just because they freeze or don't fight does not mean anything negative about the person. Fear does a lot to a person.
Load More Replies...Best Ever Food Review Show filmed in Egypt and called it the worst country they've ever filmed in. The whole show is pretty affable and they've been to a ton of placed but Egypt, by far, was the worst experience for them.
Went on a cruise on the Nile 10 years ago. Being out on the ship was pure bliss but every time we set foot on land we were almost physically attacked by beggars, souvenir vendors and all kinds of riff-raff. Visiting valley of the kings and Karnak Temple etc. was awesome, though.
do not ever go to egypt. you will either get molested or robbed. or both. I do not know why but media does not show the stories. 3 french women got raped and french media does not cover it but a bunch of local news.
The Gambia In West Africa
The Gambia in West Africa.
I've travelled to over 40 countries in my life including Egypt, Morocco, India and Cameroon and the Gambia is by far the worst of the bunch!
Went there in 2009 with my girlfriend (we were 20 at the time), it is by far the most corrupt country in the world.
Let me start by saying it's a beautiful country and the people there are the friendliest people you could wish to meet, but the way they are treated by the government is disgusting.
We met a local guy there called Jimmy Brave who lived in a hut on the beach with his young family, amazing guy, cooked us dinner every night and never wanted anything but friendship in return (we have him a fair bit of money on our last day, more than we usually would because he genuinely didnt want it)
Anyway one night we decided we wanted to check out the nightlife in the tourist area where it was safe, so my friend Jimmy agreed to meet us by the hotel entrance at 7PM, then we would take him for dinner and hit a few bars.
We got to the front of the hotel just before 7pm and Jimmy wasnt there, we waited around an hour, still no Jimmy.
At this point we assumed he had forgot so we went back out of the rear exit onto the beach and to his hut, his wife said he had gone to meet us over an hour ago.
We searched for about 4 hours and still couldn't find him so his wife suggested we call the local tourist police, we called and they confirmed he had been arrested for loitering in front of the hotel.
We agreed to meet the head of police and arrived at the police station, this is where it got shady.
We went in and sat at a desk in a empty dark room, a bug African guy in army clothing came in and sat in front of us, the guy had 2 cigs in his mouth smoking both at the same time.
He slammed his fist on the table and started shouting at us, demanding £500 (probably a years wages over there!) to release Jimmy.
Obviously we refused, after about an hour of arguing and various threats against us (we were a young white couple at the time and they assumed we were wealthy) we managed to agree on £70 and a 200-pack of cigs.
We paid and were told to wait outside, we were out there for over 2 hours and they brought the wrong guy out (we only knew our friend as Jimmy Brave not his real name so this proved challenging), anyway I was invited in to show the police who Jimmy was and had to pick him out of a huge cell filled with atleast 300 people, some who were very close to death.
Anyway Jimmy spotted me straight away and we had him released, when we got far enough away from the police station Jimmy broke down in tears, ive never seen a grown man cry like this in my life, he lifted up his top and he had several large open wounds where they had been whipping him in the cell and the police truck, we immediately took him to hospital where he remained for 2 days at a cost of £240ish (the hospital doctors were great).
So bare in mind he was beaten/whipped around 50 times (Hard!), just for waiting outside our hotel to take us for drinks.
And he was only released because we paid, if we had never turned up he said he would have died in there, they dont release the 'criminals' until somebody pays the corrupt police chief.
There was people literally dying in front of my eyes in the cell, I've always swore if I become rich I will be going back there just to release as many of these people as I possibly can (except any dangerous people who actually deserve to be there obviously)
This wasnt the only corruption from the police we seen while there it's just the main point, we seen police walking down the street slapping women and kids for absolutely no reason, one cop told me he would murder anyone I point out right now for £50 (he had an AK47).
I saw people dragged in the back of trucks never to be seen again just for asking people for a bottle of water.
I feel really sorry for the majority of the population in Senegambia as they are amazing happy people who have to live in constant fear of the police/government.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that Jimmy managed to move to the UK in 2016 with the help of me and another British family he met in the Gambia, he now lives in Stoke-on-Trent which is a few hours from where I live but we talk on facebook regularly and meet up once or twice a year.
Poor Gambians, they are just trying to have a happy life. I hope the situation there gets better.
And they are really nice. The lady who used to braid my hair was from The Gambia and used to relay some HORRIFYING experiences to me while doing my hair! She said getting to the US was the best thing to happen in her life and she would never return...even though she still had plenty of family there. Sweet, sweet lady, though.
Load More Replies...The edit tho! That's so great! I'm so genuinely happy for Jimmy and really hope he's doing ok now :)
People who resent migrants moving to western countries for a better life should read this story and be ashamed of themselves.
Absolutely atrocious. However, so happy to hear about the positive outcome of jimmy and his family and very grateful to you for helping them and staying friends
Thank you for caring for Jimmy, for his release, medical treatment and helping him to move to the UK. True friendship.
Yes, corruption is terrible there. It is very hard to make a decent living. And there was a time that the police went down really hard on what they consider bumsters. One of my in-laws was captured, beaten and had his dreads cut off. I myself got arrested once for being in a car with a wrong person. BUT things have changed a bit since the dictator left and it IS possible to have a good stay in The Gambia as a tourist. The country is trying and moving upwards a bit. As far as African countries go, things could be worse. At least there is no war. That said, I have a piece of land there but so far have decided to not move there. (Gambia visitor 25+ years, have also seen many other African countries).
Bull s**t, I have coworkers from The Gambia and let their kids under the age of 5 go shopping at the store for them because its that nice there. And americans retire and move there because its cheap to do so.
Its not “b******t” just because their experience was different from yours. It’s just that - different. Give your head a shake.
Load More Replies...Saudi Arabia
I can't believe no one mentioned Saudi Arabia. Food sucks, people constantly accosted me in the streets about being non Muslim while simultaneously asking me for western things and an invite to our compound. Hygiene is questionable. Driving is extremely dangerous. Lots of slaves and foreign workers, Saudis do nothing for themselves.
How anyone justifies taking a holiday in a country that is actively bombing and killing starving children, routinely keeps slaves, and doesn't even give citizenship to a huge proportion of its population is beyond me.
Tourism is only just becoming an option as a reason to visit Saudi. Until recently only people working there or were undertaking the Haj pilgrimage were able to enter the country.
Load More Replies...You forgot that women are treated as things and aren't allowed to have a free will. It's disgusting and sad
Well, I for one didn't mention Saudi Arabia because, as a Jew, I would not be allowed to enter its holy cities of Mecca and Medina. Think about THAT.
No "Non Believer" can enter Mecca. Tourism is virtually unknown. The general population is completely controlled. There are hundreds of people in the "Royal Family". There is slavery. Your passport is confiscated upon entry to work and given back when the work is done. One needs a exit visa to leave for a vacation. If you misbehave and get expelled, at least you got out okay.
Load More Replies...بالنسبة للصورة فهذه مدينة مكة المكرمة وهي مهمة لنا نحن المسلمين،ليس من المقبول وضعها في منشورات تحمل تعليقات سلبية،بالنسبة لنا فنحن نتبع الاسلام لكن الاعلام المضلل ينشر الكثير من الافكار الخاطئة عن الاسلام وعن معاملة المراه ،الغريب ان غالبية دول العالم تسبح في مستنقع اللا أخلاق ثم تنتقد المسلمين على تمسكهم بالدين حتى دون فهم هذا الدين بعيدا عن تضليل الاعلام.لكن حقيقتا لاننتظر من بعض الاشخاص البعيدين عن الفطرة والاخلاق تقييم شريعتنا
Dubai
yeahokaysureyup said:
Dubai. While interesting, it's really just a total ripoff of western culture. I flew 12 hours from NYC only to be surrounded by cheesecake factory, Wendy's, California pizza kitchen, etc. No real "culture"
nurd_on_a_computer replied:
Their oldest building is from the 70s. Don't go there and expect some culture, I'd say.
There are literally buildings in NY older than Dubai itself. There are literally people older than Dubai.
EddaValkyrie:
As someone who has lived in Dubai for 6 years, don't go to there if you want some Middle Eastern culture. The best you'll get is the shows on the desert safari. If you like 5-star luxury then go ahead, which is the reason why I see most influencers go.
Bro just go to the places that are less popular like ras al khaimah or Sharjah I would know because I’m a local .
Influencers go because they get paid huge sums of money to have sex with wealthy Arabs.
Hi im someone who has also lived here for 6 years, and i promise you guys, there is culture. Its super hard to actually meet a local emirati as they are extremely segregated and dont really mix at all. if anyone actually wants to experience more culture, i would recommend dont=g some research where you can find a-lot more ruins for ancient uae that can sometimes be less than an hour drive away. I also recommend going to global village cuz its super cool and theres a traditional uae part there as well!!
My trip there wasn't that horrible, but it's always very clear that you're an outsider if you aren't japanese. And it's not just looks, but also nationality - when people heard that I'm from Germany and not the US they eased up a little bit.
So, if you are Japanese you're an insider? I don't get that.. I thought Dubai ppl were Arabs.... Making Japanese outsiders.
Load More Replies...Turkey
freyakj said:
Turkey… As a woman traveling alone, it wasn’t nice. Sleazy men stalking you everywhere.
Newspaperboyyy replied:
As a Turkish male, I really hate those uneducated bastards. We're trying to fix the country though, I mean... We will.
sugarbiscuits828 replied:
They have such a dead-eyed stare too, like sharks. I also got brazenly felt up on a tram. Not going back alone. Other than that, it was a lovely trip.
appayipyip__ replied:
Yeah, traveling, living, and being a woman is not easy here. Highly not recommend..
RachelWWV:
Absolutely beautiful country but the sexual harassment was too much. And no, I'm not particularly good-looking, either. Men literally followed me around. Thankfully I wasn't alone; if I had been I would have had to go back to my hotel (if I could make it there) and just stay in my room until my flight out. It was THAT bad.
Went there when I was, what, fifteen. My little brother, who would have been about twelve, was blond and blue-eyed (now brunet and blue-eyed). We were literally offered money for him.
Yeah Turkey is bad if you’re a woman. No respect, especially for Western women. I literally ended up with bruises on my a$$ from all the guys randomly groping me on the street and grinding against me. I was dressed conservatively. I’m well past my prime. Still didn’t matter to them. I ended up asking my 6ft 4 rugby playing boyfriend to walk immediately behind me with a scowl on his face at all times.
I was in Marmaris recently (a few weeks ago) and I received nothing but excellent customer service and respect from younger Turkish men (under 45 I would say) ...I was with husband, 2 grown up kids and one teen .....and had no trouble at all. Lots of bartering in shops and markets, great hospitality in restaurants and bars. However, made the mistake of going in one shop with older men running it...couldn't wait to leave, it was very uncomfortable and we felt pressured and slightly threatened. Even husband felt it....it was dangerous as such, just a bit menacing. Looks to me like the attitudes have begun to change. We met a few Turkish men who had lived in UK, and noticed there was a very nice atmosphere in their bars
As a turkish male, do not go there till this government changes. Police do not do their job and country is like a back door for afgan, paki and other kind of low life uneducated bastards.
Istanbul as a red haired woman traveling was awful. Beautiful city, wonderful history, and I did meet some nice people. But I've been to over 40 countries, mostly solo and have never experienced that level of harassment. I was followed for long periods at a time, would go in a restaurant and have the creep still there waiting when I came out. The things men said we're beyond obscene. A woman I befriended taught me how to say "shame on you" and I started loudly saying it to men who wouldn't back off, which would sometimes deter them. Apparently, hair color played into it a lot. Women with darker hair colors seemed genuinely baffled when the blondes and redheads we're exchanging horror stories in the common room at night. I would go back, i dis love a lot about the country and there is a lot there I would still like to see- but I would dye my hair brown first, lol.
Yeah, we have that but the number of issues is increasing due to the massive amount of immigrants from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Those middle eastern orcs are destroying every decency left by Ataturk's ideals. Which is aided by the government of course...
I've always longed to see Istanbul, but the more I hear about it (and the more politically backwards Turkey goes), the less I think I will ever try to go there.
I’m from England, currently living in Turkey, and I feel very safe here.
Afghanistan
Holiday_Platypus_526 said:
Afghanistan. Don't think I need to elaborate.
Stevo2881 replied:
I served in Kandahar and it was gorgeous. Reminded me a lot of Napa Valley California. Except that everyone was poor. And there were people trying to kill you. And the IEDs.
If it weren't for the fact it looks like there are going to be another 25 years of Taliban rule, I would have loved to go back as a tourist.
2OttersInACoat replied:
My parents went many years ago, before the Russians invaded and they said it was such a beautiful place and the people were lovely. Terribly sad what the poor Afghans have had to endure
I've seen documentaries on TV how the "old" Afghanistan was like, including European hippies to drive there with their VW-busses before heading further to Goa/India. A lovely country with stunning landscape and hospitable people. It's such an unbelievable, devastating shame how this country crumbled. And to see how women and girls are being treated worse than probably in the dark times in Europe.
Qatar
Eveningroovers:
Qatar. I worked there for 15 months. Appalling treatment of workers, very very hot. Terrible food and the whole country is a building site getting ready for the world cup next year. After that the country will be empty. Nothing to do apart from work and shopping.
AlligatorSteak1983:
Qatar - watching rich ignorant Arab sheikhs beat their Nepalese slaves was horrifying
Still can't get it in my head how FIFA had chosen this country to host the upcoming World Cup. Considering all the slave labor and correlating deaths to build the stadiums. Not to mention the waste of energy to cool those stadiums. Not to mention that either women nor gays (LGBTQ) can safely walk in this country. Not to mention that all Europe has to gather at wintertime at public places, freezing their toes of, to have a collective experience (ok... maybe South of France and Spain is out... and cheers to you, Brasil 😉).
The bank statements and accountancy documents of the FIFA president and committee members would make very interesting reading...
Load More Replies...The World Cup was given to Qatar because the majority of FIFA officials at the time were completely corrupt and were bribed by Qatari officials.
Horrible, that a country, where women and girls are actively discouraged from playing football, can get the World Cup. That ought to be the FIRST condition; that the country has a rich and long-standing football culture for EVERYONE, not just rich males.
6,500 workers died during building the stadiums for the World Cup! And the human rights, the Emir don’t give a s**t about that! Cancel the whole WC! They bribed the FIFA back in 2010!
Cambodia
omgahya:
Cambodia. Corrupt as hell. Glad I got to go see my Grandma and hang with her before she passed.
Linkan1234:
My wife and I visited Cambodia in 2008 and whilst the food and temples were beautiful, it was hard to look past the sex-tourism. We had dinner one night and an old German man on the table next to us were having dinner with a young girl who I wish was 18 but probably wasn’t and he was explaining at length and very loudly what he planned to do to her in bed. I wish I would have intervened somehow but we looked the other way so to speak. It’s stayed with me for 13+ years. F**k that guy and f**k a country that would allow that to happen in broad daylight
All the people missing limbs. The child labour. The extreme poverty. We bought kids clothes and school uniforms (the kids can’t go to school without a uniform) for the village near where we were staying. A mother showed us her 3 y/o child in the first clothing he had ever worn. For over 3 years he was naked! I’ll never forget that.
China
wordnerdette said:
China. I had to go there a couple of times for work, but the feeling of being surveilled, the pollution, the horrible pedestrian experience, and getting scammed by a cabby turned me off.
JESUS_CNT_KICK replied:
Having lived in China for years this is one of my biggest pet peeves. All cities in China are wicked car centered. Everything is treated like a parking lot. Parking on the sidewalks is legal. Even in resort towns like Xiamen which is a little island, cars reign supreme. The beach promenade was turned into a parking lot. Scooters and bikes were kicked onto the sidewalk with old aunties so as to not get in the way of cars. Pedestrian crossings were replaced by bridges, so you're screwed if you're in a wheelchair, or a mother with a stroller, or a suitcase; you're gonna have to go up a flight of stairs. Of all countries, China has a legal right turn at the red light, so as pedestrians try to cross, drivers ignore the pedestrians at just drive at you. Of course, I could go on and on about how people drive.
Shutterstormphoto replied:
I felt like Shanghai was set up for pedestrians 100%. There was even a rumble strip down every sidewalk for blind people to follow.
thatdoesntmakecents replied:
This depends on the part of the country tbh. I've been to Beijing/Tianjin once and I most likely wouldn't go back. Guangzhou? Xiamen? Been to each at least 3 times and would still go back.
My best friend, who is of Chinese descent and was born in the States, went to China. It was, for her, a dream come true. She was so excited. She and her partner went to Japan first, he is of Japanese descent, and then they went to China. She came back and she was so horrified. She said it was filthy and that the people were like sheep and that the presence of troops and police stopping people every where in the cities was overwhelmingly horrible. She said, that Japan was gorgeous and China was a pit of terror.
Good luck to go there as a tourist these days. Now way to have a visa. Foreign student have been kicked out of the country as well.
I have a cousin (male) who taught English in Beijing for 3 years and absolutely loved it. Maybe like most other countries, it depends on where you are as some places are better than others.
I visited China in the 1970s, before Mao died. People were friendly and almost painfully honest. But we were a novelty to them as most had never encountered a group of Aussie tourists before. And they believed what they were told to believe. Not sure I'd want to go back, but impressed at how far they've come since that time. I had friends who taught English there before the Olympics and they enjoyed the place and the people.
..."impressed at how far they've come...." so, this social credit system they have now in China, is that your idea of progress?
Load More Replies...I spent two weeks in southern China shooting video of a client's factories and products. This was not tourist China. A "small" city of 2 million. The people were nice, I felt safe (except when being driven to locations through insane traffic). Even though much of the city looked like any other modern city in the world, I never felt so alien before. I was curious about China before. Now that I've been there, eh, I don't need to return.
You cannot base your experience only n bejing and around. China is a large country. Loved Shanghai and other cities too. Took a little cruise on the yellow river amazing.
Married to a Chinese and been here 12 years now. It was fine for the first 4 years or so but has been on a downward slide since.
I visited China in 2016 for a month as a tourist. I've travelled in many other countries before but nothing was like China. I met with very nice people but the trip was tiring (I am not a woman who sleeps in luxury hotels, I mainly hichhike and wildcamp but still it was tiring 🤣) because they are not polite, they don't understand the communication with hand, they cannot wait in lines, they spit everywhere and they just throw the garbage and food everywhere in the train and in national parks as well.
South Africa
Ro_dog805 said:
South Africa, some random truck rolled up outside of our hotel and got in a shootout for no apparent reason. I walked out after the shooting to see around 7 people dead or at least injured including our tour guide.
T3mpist replied:
I grew up and lived in RSA and was fortunate enough to immigrate to the USA. Although there is a lot to love about the country if I never have to go back there it wouldn't bother me in the least (we still have family there so we go back to see them).
The problem is not that it's not an interesting and beautiful country, the problem is that the people that live there have adapted to a level of crime and violence that is insane. Things like avoiding areas altogether, not walking anywhere in the evenings, trying to prevent stopping at traffic lights (robots) in the evenings, living in a secure complex, and having electrified fencing and private security are all examples of everyday life in RSA. If you live overseas chances are all of those are very foreign concepts.
Andromeda321 replied:
Backpacked around in 2009, from Cape Town to Jo’burg, and just loved it. Legit my favorite country I traveled in, because it is so diverse in nature, people, just about every way. But as things get more dangerous, I’m just not sure if I’ll ever get back there. Seeing footage of the riots right now breaks my heart- if anyone from South Africa is reading this, btw, I wish you all the best and hope you stay safe.
rattified replied:
Beautiful place but the crime is horrible. Someone tried to kidnap me when I was 9.
I went to a medical conference in Cape Town a few years back. The organisers had arranged a few social activities, which were entertaining, but we were warned about leaving the hotel or conference centre, told never to go outside the hotel on our own, and to always take a taxi and not walk anywhere. We were escorted everywhere, no unaccompanied sightseeing because there were so many areas that were considered unsafe. I didn't feel comfortable at all.
Where the heck were you at in Cape Town? I live in CPT and the worst advice I can see from your experience is that they said for you to take a taxi, the way the taxis are driven is horrible.
Load More Replies...I live in South Africa, and the amount of violence and danger that we're all desensitized to is just insane! We talk about muggings, bombings and rapes like it's just any other day.
I live in South Africa and while I totally understand visiting here is a lot different from living here and being used to it, I would much rather stay here than visit any of the other places on this list.
I've only been twice but loved it. I am fortunate bc I have family over there. Still haven't been to Cape Town ... for sure next time!
Load More Replies...I would love to see the blooming jacaranda trees now in spring, but I don't dare to go there. And the water in Johannesburg is drying out any day now, according to news now and then.
My first visit to South Africa was in 1993. My brother was living there at the time and had got in with a bunch of (extremely racist) Afrikaners. Every one of his friends had the same views. My brother was in the habit of pointing his gun at random black people who approached the bakkie (truck) to beg from him. It was mind-blowing.
Went to Johannesburg in 1995, just after it had been awarded the title of world's most violent city. My client picked me up in her car to drive me round the corner from the hotel to the office (quarter of a mile, if that). The biggest crime at the time was carjacking of single white women in expensive cars...she (white) turned up, on her own, in a Mercedes. Fortunately the only directly bad experience was someone kindly "offering" to look after the car when we went into a restaurant.
My aunt and uncle near Johannesburg were burgled in their sleep and beaten with iron bars, they are well in their 80's.
There was literally just a post about “correcting” people and getting it completely wrong. You have it backwards… let’s quote: “Emigrate takes the preposition from, as in He emigrated from Russia to America. It is incorrect to say, "He emigrated to America." Immigrate: to enter a new country with the intention of living there. Immigrate takes the preposition to, as in He immigrated to America from Russia.”
Load More Replies...Iran
Royal_Seaworthiness3 said:
I won't visit my own country if I could gtfo of it. (Iran)
Edit: People think that I don't like Iran, Or I hate it, or whatever..., Which Is totally wrong.
I love Iran, My main concern is about economic problems and political issues that made people suffer (Everyone deserves a decent life).
I wish Iran was in a state that no one would think of leaving, And instead would work hard to restore its power and make it great again (Which is hard).
raccoon666baby
Iran. I’m half Iranian, but I was born and raised in Europe. I went a few time between 10 and 13 years old, and the last time I went, I started feeling the weight of being a woman. I was hanging out with my aunt in the capital, I turned my head around and my scarf fell off (I had full sleeve coverage in the middle of the summer). Immediately, the morale police circled us and asked why my head was uncovered. My aunt told them off, but that really stayed with me. It was over 15 years ago, and I can’t imagine my grown adult self fearing the police because my head scarf won’t stay in place. I do miss my family and I have amazing memories of visiting the historical sites, but I refuse to suppress my womanhood and self in order to be there.
anyavailablebane replied:
I work with 2 guys from Iran. One left as a refugee when a teenager the other grew up there, had a child there, then left. That family still goes back for holidays, his wife more than him because he doesn’t have enough holidays to spend as much time there as her. Obviously, the one that fled has never been back
It’s fascinating how different the two of them talk about their country.
Hopefully, Iran will soon change for the better as Iranians (especially women) have had enough of the morality police.
“Morality” police. The mere term is ludicrous. I can think of very few things more immoral.
Load More Replies...Royal_Seaworthy3, I feel the same about my country - and I live in the US. I would gtfo in a heartbeat if I could. Just no money to do it at the moment, but I'm saving up for it! I also love my country, but it feels like it's imploding here and I don't want to be here when it does!
and yet being scolded by the Immoral police had zero repercussions and her AUNT who is a woman was able to safely tell them to go f**k them selves.
Except there is a line- and that line is not even close to what I enjoy in the US. Iran’s people are stunningly beautiful. I pray they are able to achieve change, but it is horribly naive to think that will happen without a lot of bloodshed.
Load More Replies...My grandpa was a director/producer for the bbc back in the day, so when my dad was a child they spent a few years living in Iran. Sounds like a pretty incredible experience. Then they had to get out sharpish when the revolution was starting. I'm sure it was very different in the early 70's. I'll have to ask my dad about that.
India
zacbdr said:
India, no cliches or anything else but I just can't stand the hygiene right there, was a hard trip 3 years ago.
Random_user-name_ replied:
Bad hygiene & a lack of civic sense is extreme. Have had cab drivers pull up on the sidewalk on multiple occasions so that they could pee. The garbage littering & cows roaming around on the streets s**tting everywhere is also such a common sight.
frick-you-fricker replied:
Our family of 4 has been to India twice. Loved it. Yes, the poverty is horrible.
Anon replied:
I got sexually assaulted, stalked, harassed, etc there. People are greedy and disgusting, nobody has heard of deodorant, everything is polluted, poverty is rampant and just sad, etc
Captain-Overboard replied:
Can't really argue that. There's a lot of difference compared to a developed country and it's definitely not easy to travel. Things are changing, but slowly.
I've been to India many many times. It's my favorite place to visit. I have never had a bad experience there personally and I have travelled all over by myself. I think you're you're disturbed by uncleanliness etc this place wouldn't be for you. But living and talking to the locals really makes the country so special. Indians are really beautiful and caring people. I think it helps to wear local clothing and learn a bit of the language though. And like in any country, not going out past dark and stayy sober will lessen your chances of something bad happening.
I don't know if it counts, but I have been in Goa 5 times and loved every minute. I felt at home at once and wished I could stay there forever
This entry feels a little dishonest. India itself isn't one giant, dirty urban city. There are plenty of places that don't have nearly as much of the issues listed.
Nah, it was to the point. Almost all so called Metro cities are like that. Women safety to infrastructure only exists on papers.
Load More Replies...Hygiene... yes, as an India, can feel the pain. The govt is heavily investing in sanitation but it will take decades. Cleanliness too is being worked on. Also, a request to any tourist... if you don't go with any random person in your country if he or she says anything, follow the same here. We have nice people too... Poverty is huge. Our population is huge so ya... it is more obvious...
On the opposite, I´d love to return to India, I miss friends, food and small markets, we had a great time there a few years ago
"Nobody has heard of deodorant" tell that to all the 12+ people in my school who put WAAAYYY too much deodorant. Oh, and thanks for calling me greedy and disgusting 🙃 But I agree with everything else. While I haven't experienced the sexual assault, stalking, or harassing (living in a very safe area in Hyderabad), there's reports of it ALL the time, poverty shocks and upsets me (although, like my dad said, some might be fake), and even in my community with tons of trees, you can still smell the pollution. Hopefully it'll improve, but for now, people continue to migrate away to developed countries like USA in droves (including me 😊).
TL;DR is: People in my international school use deodorant, but everything else said is accurate and that's why people such as myself migrate away from there.
Load More Replies...I have never been to India, but I used to process expenses for colleagues who did. Any bank notes they brought back STANK, and not of curry!
Have you ever heard of Delhi Belly??? That's a term for a condition where the food in India upsets your gut and you get diarrhoea, etc.
Yahhh, I am Indian and even I can't stand India. No wonder people hate it too.
Syria
guiscardv said:
Syria, I went before the civil war and it was honestly one of the loveliest places I’ve ever been, with super nice friendly people. Add to that the food is amazing. It would break my heart to see some of the places now.
fatimus_maximus replied:
Legit one of the most beautiful and historically interesting places I’ve ever been! Castles and the Knights of the round table in Syria? I learned so much...breaks my heart that all of these historically significant places are gone and a population is living in poverty. Heartbreaking
Anon replied:
My friend recently moved back after the war and the area she lives in is safe but there are a lot of refugees from other parts of Syria and it’s very sad how much infrastructure etc was damaged and how many lives were lost. Her grandma died at 65 years old because of poor healthcare infrastructure and medical sanctions.
Venezuela
PissySquid said:
Venezuela. I visited my extended family there (near Caracas) as a young child and had an amazing time, but things there have REALLY gone south since then. Pretty much all my family members that were there have left for obvious reasons.
Plantayne replied:
I met a couple of Venezuelans in a bar back in like 2007. They told me about the government had come and seized their farm that had been in their family for like a hundred years.
They had no choice but to stay on as employees or leave. Eventually, they made their way to the US whey they were working as mechanics. One of the saddest stories I’d ever heard.
Alexcelsior replied:
To everyone thinking about visiting the country without family/friends/contacts, don’t.
Gotta love how far left socialism and far right fascism turn out to be essentially the same thing.
I've read a description political ideology is not so much of a straight line but a horseshoe. If two people start in the center and one keeps walking left, while the other goes right, they won't end up in exactly the same place. However, they will end up within shouting distance.
Load More Replies...So sad. I was fortunate to visit before it went to pot (summers of 1999 and 2000). Met a friend there in 1999, we stayed in touch and he eventually moved to Colombia. He went back to check on his mom's house in Mérida (city)in September 2019 , became ill, and died there. I'm convinced if he had still been in Colombia when he fell ill he would be alive today. I have lovely memories of a lovely people in a lovely country that has all been ruined by the totally corrupt government, starting with Chavez.
Visited 20 years ago and it was tough then. So many people without homes, jobs and food. Met some amazing people who stopped us being ripped off and were genuinely helpful The army were so corrupt even back then. The whole place ran on who your contacts or friends were. I can only imagine it’s hell on earth now.
I did an outreach program in Venezuela in 2004 while in college, it was beautiful and the people are amazing. That said even than it was dangerous and the living situations were rough. I was a 19yr old white man and I can't tell you how many father tried to get me to "marry" their daughters telling me they were my age or a bit younger when they couldn't have been older than 13. It was insane and when we went to villages we needed a female escort just to stop that from happening.
I've heard that people will pick-pocket you and kill you right there on the street. I've also heard horrible things happening to women and children.
Brazil
Seattle_sucks:
Brazil. This won’t be a popular response I suppose but it is based on my personal experience. After a month of being warned that we could be robbed on the bus, the street, killed on the beach etc I ended my time there held hostage by two escaped criminals. That’s enough for me.
f**kin-slayer
Every backpacker I’ve met while traveling around South America has had some sort of mugging in Brazil. I don’t know what it is but as a photographer who usually has a camera on him, I’ve avoided Brazil for a while because of the all mugging I’ve heard about
Brazil is home to the loveliest, funniest and most kind heart people, but also the worst motherfluffers you can ever imagine. It can be very hard to tell them apart
I travel a few years ago in a professional trip, and the travel agency warned so much about many horrible things, but my experience was really good and now I wanna return with my family
Moldova
Russianwinter1398 said:
Moldova, never again. Was attacked and robbed by smelly gopniks on the bus and I really think the driver was in on it
d0bermann replied:
Same here. Most depressing setting I've ever been in.
Gopnik (derogatory) In Russia, Eastern Europe, former Soviet republics, and other Slavic countries, a member of a subculture of young people of lower-class low-income backgrounds, mostly millennials, who usually live in the Russian suburbs. Never heard that word before!
whoa ! Never imagined that urban dictionary terms need updating! it should say a "younger person, usually under 30's) although, some, of course, never outgrow criminal mentality, be it a person in 20's/30's or 50's. Gopnik is a russian word so people not speaking russian (or with smaller russian minorities) do not use that word. We'd call them bandits/criminals/forcers/hobos/alcoholics/teenagers (depending on age)
Load More Replies...France
Fivedayhangovers said:
France. I’ve been twice and wanted to love it but I f*****g hate it. The French are D***S. It’s really hard to get around on public transit if you don’t know French. And to top it all off I got sexually assaulted on the metro on the way to the Moulin Rouge. I’m never going back.
Broderick512 replied:
As an Italian who has been in France a lot, I can say that the attitude toward foreigners in France has absolutely no middle ground: they're either incredibly lovely or the absolute fucking worst, with nothing in between. I have the advantage that my family and I can speak French and, at one point, we were actually convincing (we're years out of practice now), and still we managed to find some absolute d**ks, especially around Paris. On the other hand, the reason why we have been to France a lot is that we have had a lot of pleasant memories there and we met a lot of awesome people.
chito25 replied:
Gotta say, Paris was one of the most disappointing cities I’ve ever been to. There was this pervasive sense of insecurity everywhere, there are conmen everywhere…. I’ve never been to another city where jumping the metro turn slides is so common.
The complete opposite of this was Barcelona, truly amazing.
Like I said before...stop going to the major cities. I'd rather go to southern France where most of the artists hang out.
Definitely agree! I've been to Paris twice and mostly enjoyed myself despite a couple of incidents with rude/short-tempered Parisians - it definitely helps if you at least attempt to speak the language. I've also been to Rouen and some small towns & villages in Brittany and Normandy and there everyone was absolutely lovely! Much better, cheaper food too. Paris is impressive for its architecture but there's so much more to see and do elsewhere in the country.
Load More Replies...I knew my country will be here. And i'm not even mad about it, because you're not 100% wrong, . I'll say that the only thing making me angry are the french d**ks you can meet here. These bas***ds are also behaving like s**t toward us. I hate Paris. I had family here, so i went here every year. I was scared in the metro. Called a b**ch. Followed to my grandma's house. But unfortunetly, there are some of these disgusting beings in other cities too. Maybe less. But still. I'm sorry to all the tourists who had to meet them. I love to help tourists, and feel ashamed of the others who rather insult you.
I loved France, I don't speak French but everyone I've met appreciated I was making an effort and were super nice and helpful, even in Paris. Outside Paris was absolutely incredible, people would go completely out of their way to help
Paris is not France. As cities go Lyon, Strausbourg, and Bordeaux also have a lot to offer if you want an urban experience. Otherwise, pick a region that has small charming towns and villages, like the Lot/Dordogne, or Brittany. You will find local cuisine, charming B&Bs, interesting architecture, museums, local artisans, and nature activities. I have lived in France for nearly 40 years, and only go to Paris for concerts, or art exhibits I cannot see any place else.
Totally agree, with my family we made a quick tour for some cities and was wonderful
Load More Replies...Please don't equate Paris (or other big cities like Lyon or Marseille) with France. These pricks are nothing like the real French. And there's so much, much more to France than Paris. Skip it altogether, it's not worth it.
I went on vacation to north-western France a few years ago and didn't speak any French (apart from bonjour and merci). I didn't meet a single French person being an a** about that, because I kindly asked in English if they spoke English and wasn't mad, if they didn't (happened like twice). Only my smartphone was a major a**hole when it switched languages from German to French once we passed the Belgian-French border... 😆
I just passed there two days before and I´d love to come back for knowing more places, specially museums (in Paris) and other extremely beautilful cities in the South
There's a reason why there is something out there called "Paris syndrome". Personally I have made my peace with France (mostly), because if I had a lovely encounter it was absolutely this: lovely. But I will never understand how Pris came to the title of "City of Love". When not being at tourist hot spots, it's as dirty as any other city. Rats running around, decaying infrastructure, unsafe areas.... And all the tunnel - nothing much has changed, with regard to appearance, since Lady Di had died in one.
Cambodia
Cambodia.
medievalduck said:
But only because I was mugged in Phnom Penh.
C_Taarg replied:
Cambodia kinda same for me (I was mugged too but in Colombia, which I’d probably go to again). I just found Cambodia sad and unsettling. A brutal recent history and a country that kind of has very little so virtually all you encounter is set up to appease tourists. Drunken Europeans and Americans walking around partying with a local girl under their arm, everywhere I went was like fighting off women trying to give you a happy ending massage, every cabbie and tuktuk driver trying to sell you drugs and women. I was only there a week and didn’t go too far out of Siam Reap and Phnom Penh, so certainly there’s more to the country outside those cities but the whole experience just bummed me out.
PA2SK replied:
I was drugged and robbed in siem reap. Be careful out there.
Cambodia is lovely. even though i got malaria and dengue while there i still loved it and went back a few more times. OP mentioned getting mugged but that can happen literally anywhere.
I joined a tour in Cambodia I loved it. Went to Siem Reap for the temples as well as Phnom Penh. It was a beautiful experience and would definitely go again. I knew the sad history well before I went so was prepared for it. Amazing food, friendly happy people.
Israel
anon:
Israel. Total illusion of peace and tranquility within the walls. It’s an ethnostate. I understand the motivation for wanting a homeland but 1) that’s painting a target on our backs and 2) don’t turn around and engage in many of the same hateful practices that were used against us in Nazi Germany!
Once was enough.
MovingSiren:
I have to agree. I have experienced racism in lots of places as a black person but my experience in Jerusalem was hands down the worst I've ever experienced. It was also directed at my then 3 year old child. We cut short our trip and flew to Cyprus 2 days later
Have visited Tel Avive two or three times on business trips (and once also the Dead Sea)... I have to say that it was quite a culture shock how 'arabian' culture mingled with European one. Once it was all common to you and in the next second you falter about something that you haven't expected at all. Nonetheless I would again visited, especially considering that I've never been treated bad by mid-aged/young Israelis.
What practices? You are dropping words without understand what you are saying
I spent a wonderful month in Israel. During the week we worked on an archaeological dig in the Negev and toured on the weekends. Tel Aviv and Jerusalem were amazing and beautiful and fun and the people were great and the dig site, Tel Arad, and the hotel we stayed at, the Nof Arad, were also amazing and beautiful and interesting. The entire area is steeped in ancient history and the people were genuinely nice and welcoming. It should be noted that, as a group, we WERE babysat, basically, by the university's dig leaders, and we WERE lightly tear gassed one late afternoon near the "old city gates", but that was a one-off situation.
I won’t knowingly engage with anything Israeli, (Keter products for one); I won’t give them my money. It’s ironic that one of the most oppressed races on earth has given rise to one of the earth’s greatest oppressors.
I liked Tel Aviv, but Jerusalem was just awful... for some reason everyone thought I was from Russia and super rich and were extremely rude and tried to scam me several times, and when they realized I wasn't and probably had less money than they did they were suddenly super polite, hospitable and helpful and wanted to show me around. It was so weird. But in general it was a good experience. Since I didn't have much money I just enjoyed the beach and ate lots of falafel. I live far from the sea so spending time near an ocean is always the best thing, I don't care for tourist attractions :D
I wish all the best to Israel but at the same time #JusticeForPalestine
Load More Replies...i went to tel aviv and jerusalem when i was 9. at first it is beautiful but then when me and my family went to an arab market and the more arab-populated parts of jerusalem it was sickening how we would see children as young as ten selling things and the non-arab locals ignoring it entirely.
Haiti
Haiti. Went on a medical mission. One day was spent at the beach. We got caught in the middle of a protest. I was groped, several other people were punched. It was terrifying. They only stopped when one of our translators yelled that we were medical workers.
We only ended up spending one hour at the beach so we wouldn’t end up driving back through the same area at night. When we reached that area it was clear of people. A few overturned vehicles were on fire. A U.N. detail was hanging out in a big armored vehicle with a very large gun on top.
I can’t imagine how awful it must be now with all of the civil unrest.
ubermiguel
Haiti. Went and did medical relief in a field hospital after the earthquake. Recent stuff aside, that country is, and has been F****D.
- poor infrastructure.
- poor education
- no significant industries.
- no natural resource advantage.
- corrupt government, polarized political climate.
- Island nation, so all imports are more expensive.
- poor medical system.
Anything a country would need to get a leg up is just nonexistent. I'm a pretty positive person, and met the loveliest people there, but I've never been more depressed or pessimistic about a places' future.
I ended up in Haiti unexpectedly. I didn't know our flight from Curaçao to Miami stopped in Port-au-Prince. Miles and miles of shanties as we made our descent, with that obscene white palace on the slope. UN troops were patrolling the the airfield and we had to stay on the plane. Gladly. So sad that country has been screwed over in so many ways.
Morocco
hunterfam55 said:
Morocco, was basically confined to the hotel as you were confronted by aggressive beggars and shop workers
Elieolio replied:
Been to Morocco twice and I feel you. The solution for my partner and myself during our visit was to act totally indifferent to everyone trying to push whatever. I found wearing sunglasses made it easier for me. Keep your head high and play it cool. The pushers are only interested in your pocketbook.
feltonvillain
Impossible to let your guard down in Morocco. I did not enjoy it.
Just play being polite and stupid, act like speaking only super rare language (they cannot communicate to) and you will be left alone within 30 sec. Very important to be respectful to the locals and their traditions, believes, religions, must be very respectful to the women, other then that - make talks to seems impossible to them - I was answering only in Bulgarian and Hungarian language and beggars and shop owners were losing interest in me in seconds.
Morocco is amazing, a true gem and local people who are not working with tourists are just genuine good and charming
Load More Replies...We learned a few phrases in Arabic, including "no thank you," went everywhere with a guide hired through the hotel and we had zero problems. The language thing went a long way to reducing harassment. Even walked through the night market in Jmaa el-Fna alone (two women) with ease.
I went for a week back in '95; the gentleman I was dating was part of a peacekeeping force, due to "issues" between the government and Saharawi & Polysario factions. We drove from Casablanca down the coast - met a delightful young man (Berber) in a bazaar, selling jewelry his family/tribe had made. Another time, while I was driving (blonde, blue-eyed American female), we saw an older gentleman walking along the road, headed to the closest town - we stopped, gave him a lift to the mosque, although he had us drop him a couple of blocks beyond it (he COULDN'T be seen in a car being driven by a non-Muslim woman!). The problems we ran into - VERY sketchy guys on motorbikes, aggressively trying to get us to follow them to their "special" hotels. And, the utter LACK of facilities for women in places like a coffee house.
Pakistan
Assuming I got the chance to leave it and move to USA, I would never visit my country Pakistan again. Society is regressing, corruption, banning culture, religious extremism, lack of safety, misogyny, oppression of minorities and the list goes on.
madgirl786 replied:
While I wasn't born in Pakistan and can't speak for being brought up there, my origin is Pakistani and I do get emotional everytime I visit. The country suffers so strongly from brain drain, with the best of the best leaving for a better quality of life and higher wages. Pakistan is ravaged by unethical men who get away with bloody murder, literally. Amongst other things. Look up bahria town and Malik Riaz, a man who founded these utopian societies on acres and acres of stolen land and got away with it.
100% the treatment of minority groups is insane and awful. Aside from that major, major issue, I do feel like a lot of the people of Pakistan are actually really chill, simple and generally want better standards in their country. Someone can work their whole lives to save up for their own rickshaw only to have it stolen by thugs in broad daylight. My uncle works for a major bank and had his car stolen on his way to work by very polite, heavily armed robbers. Like many countries out there, people just can't catch a break.
Hmmm. Visiting this country is actually great if you do it right, living here is indeed awful. I live in the capital and am relatively privileged so it's not that bad for me. But everyone who can afford to do so is leaving because the economy is now unbearably bad. People in general aren't open minded, opportunities are low, crime in some cities is high. Idk, come here if you know someone, just avoid Karachi and you'll be fine.
I honestly feel bad about the state of pakistan these days more than that of my own country. I hope things improve between both the countries so that they will never again be featured on these lists
DEFINITELY don't go there if you're a woman!!! It's dangerous for women there!!!
Serbia
Serbia. If you're a POC, don't go. I caught a connecting flight to London there so didn't leave the airport in my two hours layover. Every single soul in the airport was staring at me coldly and silently for two hours straight: must have been 150 people approximately. Even when I bought food, the cashier didn't talk to me, just stared until I said "Can I buy food or"?
Felt like I was a criminal who needed to be watched like a hawk. My heart rate must have tripled out of fear that they'd gang up on me especially when they won't let me board my flight. They've never seen a black woman with a British passport and needed thirty minutes to verify it wasn't a fake passport.
Haha, yes, kind of the same for Bulgaria (I'm from there). Don't expect people to be polite. Usually when you shop or whatever you directly say what you want like - a cup of coffee or a pack of cigarettes. So don't expect greetings, please, or have a nice day. This is because most people don't find the need to be polite, haven't been taught to, no one around them does it, etc. And most are just generally unhappy with their jobs, lives, etc. and everything annoys them. However if you smile, make a compliment and show empathy you can see them being very nice and friendly :) Another thing - both countries are very patriarchal and a bit oriental. We don't have the American and western values of extreme tolerance, no offending, etc. More like the opposite. So yes, most people will be disgusted if you turn up being LGBTQ, black or sth. Not all of course, speaking in general. Also we have almost 0% black people so this is another reason they're looked strange upon.
I live in Bulgaria and apart from the stress dealing with the immigration police and their paperwork have found the people will bend over backwards to help you especially if you are trying to speak their language... most young people here now speak better English than my Bulgarian but I've only lived here 15 years lol
Load More Replies...I don't know if this is specific to black people, or people are more open now, but my friend and her family went to Serbia last month and had a great time. We are Indian.
It is very unlikely that your experience is because of the color of your skin. You didn't visit Serbia, you visited Airport in Serbia for two hours, that sees thousands of people of colour every day. Serbia had students from Africa since WWII, they married Serbian woman and man, and lived in Serbia without experiencing any rasicm. There is something that you misread. What is considered as politeness in UK, in Serbia often is considered as "fakeness", people walking into a shop are almost always just another customer, until you make a connection with the seller. Visit Serbia, spend time with Serbians, and you'll change your mind I promise you that. All the best!
Exactly how many of those 150 people on an international airport such as Belgrade Airport might be Serbians? How many of those looked at comment writer just because she is black or she just thinks so because all unpleasant situations happens because of persons skin color? Exactly on how many airports would security allow boarding if traveling documents of person is suspicious regardless of skin color? … answer is probably none .
This is so untrue. I'm a black girl. I have been in Serbia on and off for years and no one has ever given me a bad look. I encountered bad people, but I also encountered them in India, in the USA, in the UK, France, Italy, everywhere. I have met fewer of them in Serbia than in any other country. Of course, racial intolerance still exists everywhere today, but I really didn't encounter it in Serbia. I admit, there were "looks", especially in rural areas, people apparently rarely see black people over there, but there were no unpleasant scenes.
I was in Niš in 2019 - saw a mixed race woman with a man walking down the street. I wonder what her story was.
It's and international airport, I'm sure they see POC every day. They are just impolite and dead inside *shrugs* but that's experience from airport not Serbia certainly -_-
Airports are not functioning great, the reason certainly isn't the colour of her skin.
Load More Replies...Thailand
pariisea:
Thailand... Went there during the coup in 2013. Got stuck. Too much prostitution and child p*rn/prostitution out in the open for me. Also being there during the coup and getting a crazy flu and hospitalized in Bangkok f*****g sucked. Love my Thai friends but Bangkok and Pattaya are just too crazy for me.
namelessghoul77:
Lived in Thailand for 12 years. Suggest you get as far away from BKK or Pattaya as possible - your opinion will change.
Bangkok is a crazy place. My friend and I got thrown off a tuktuk as we refused to go where the driver wanted to go which was some shopping area while we wanted to go to a palace to see it. The driver got seriously pissed off and told us to get out and he drove off. Koh Samui was amazing though.
LOL. Have you been op North? Chiang Mai for instance. You'll love it!
Load More Replies...Thailand is one of the most beautiful and tourist friendly places I've ever been. Like anywhere, big cities are usually gross, dirty and unsafe. I avoid those places in my home country too. There is poverty and corruption in most developing nations, which is unfortunate. I spent several months in Thailand and my experiences were diverse and mostly very positive. It can't be beat for the food, Thai massage, scenery and SCUBA diving. I was apprehensive of the language barrier at first but they are very accommodating to tourists and very friendly people. Learn how to at least say hello and thank you in Thai and you will have an even better experience.
One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble | Not much between despair and ecstasy | One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble | Can't be too careful with your company | I can feel the devil walking next to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPqAin1e7U&ab_channel=fritz51318 Absolutely lovely video!
Load More Replies...Jamaica
aardvark_armyReport:
Jamaica. Everyone thinks that you owe them a tip for something, or runs up and puts a necklace on your SO and expects money immediately. Unless you're just into getting pumped for money by locals and worrying about being robbed, don't go there.
Thisismyusername89:
Jamaica…got mugged within the first 5 minutes I kid you not!
heyyouwtf:
I don't think people realize how impoverished a lot of Jamaica is. I'll never go back there either. I had a driver try to extort money from me on my honeymoon. The lady that set up the transportation at our resort was in on it. The driver accosted my wife demanding money for a previous ride he had given us but abandoned us so we had to find our own way back to the resort. I told my wife to go into the airport and he and I exchanged words. He wanted the money for the return trip plus extra because he drove to pick us up for no reason. Mind you we waited over an hour for him. Once he realized I wasn't going to back down and I wasn't afraid of him calling the cops he backed down and left.
I agree, it is not a safe place. We were warned not to leave the hotel grounds unless in an arranged taxi to a safe tourist area.
So you're basing your view that it's not safe on what the hotel people told you? Of course they just want you to stay there and spend your money with them. I have to disagree - vehemently! I've been twice in recent years and found it to be a beautiful place with amazing, friendly people, lots to see and do and I never felt unsafe at all. I avoided staying at resorts and instead booked into small, locally owned hotels both times. I did trips from the touristy side (Negril) to Kingston, including going to Port Royal to see the Fort, visited the Bob Marley museum and to Trench Town. The Blue Mountains are gorgeous - the Orange Hills are stunning. The beaches are the best in the world, in my opinion. First time, I went with my sister and the second with a female friend and yes, we did get a lot of male attention, but it was easy enough to shut down (politely and firmly). I love Jamaica so much and have every intention of going back again - as often as I can afford.
Load More Replies...We were once privileged enough to have a Caribbean cruise. The cruise stopped at Falmouth, Jamaica. There was a plastic village next to the pier to cater for tourists but also an option to visit the town. So we walk straight to the town. It was the most heartwarming visit ever. One guy stopped us because we walking too fast, like "this is Jamaica, just take it easy, everyone we look at you weird". One lady stopped us just to ask us "Please tell the world that Jamaican people are not bad people, we are good people" with no further intensions. Ok, our visit took a slightly sinister turn when we had finally ventured too far from the town, one lady stopped us saying "What are you boys doing here? If you go any further, you will be killed. Turn back now!" So Jamaicans can really care about foreigners,
Have been to Jamaica about 5 times. Absolutely stunning place, lot of variety, and I LOVE the Patois. I mostly stay outside of the tourist places. Ppl in general quite loud but friendly, if YOU are. But yes, it is very poor and there is a lot of drugs and guns going round, which makes it quite unsafe. Especially for tourists because they attract the worst of the nation in any country. Which is also why the big hotels guard their beaches with gunmen. Edit: unsafe for everybody really not just tourists. Many Jamaicans I know say "I don't have friends" because you can't trust anybody. But I still have Jamaican friends. Real friends. Beautiful ppl.
I’ve been to Jamaica twice. It’s beautiful, but we were advised to not leave our resort unless we went on a bus/travel excursion that left from the resort
I went on my honeymoon to Jamaica. We stayed in a resort, and, yes, they told us to not go of the resort grounds without being in a tour. We were also told to not wear jewelery and carry large amounts of cash when we were off resort grounds. However, the island is so beautiful. We were still in the bus headed for the resort and I told my (now) ex that I was going to move there if he ever left me. 🙃 Yes, the poverty was painful to see, and my heart cried for the people living there! P.S. No, I haven't moved there, but I'd love to go back!
Spent a day in Jamaica when on a cruise years ago. Aggressive drug sellers or trinket sellers swarm you everywhere you go. I stayed close to the tour group, and did not feel comfortable as a younger woman to go anywhere on my own. Saddened at the quality of life for the locals outside of the fancy resorts, and by the trash in the parks and on the streets.
Madagascar
Madagascar.
I loved the sights, but I couldn't enjoy anything from the guilt of having a vacation there while the locals were below the poverty line and completely mistreated by the frenchies who live there.
What saddened me most in Madagaskar was not just the poverty in itself, but also how it kills off the spectacular and peculiar wildlife. Outside of the protected parks, nature is gone. Ppl use every available piece of land to grow rice (water) or graze cows (no water). Lots of bush fires set by ppl to create grass for the cows. Hardly any trees left. The erosion is horrific and the place is turning into a desert. Horrible.
USA
RagePandazXD:
America, don't feel like I really have a reason to return and everything just feels too big to me. Don't have family there, thought it was grand and can see why some people love visiting but just not my cuppa, especially in the summer. Meanwhile I'd love to go back to Italy again but go further north this time.
Longjumping-Oven-631:
“Also USA. Worst place ever. An average American does not know anything outside the USA. They think they are the center of the world and they don't need to know anything about other countries. NYC is super polluted with beggars everywhere. I saw two people fighting with knifes at 1am. Over priced. Dirty. There are many racist people in the southern and middle States, add to this guns! People in the USA worship the dollar. They accept to do anything for money, no ethics. I didn't feel safe there.”
Hurts2hatelo:
The USA. Obviously not the same reasons as you guys have for Egypt and such..
I've been to NYC. It was pretty cool and I enjoyed it (although we didn't really do much touristy stuff like visit Liberty) but I don't really have any travel plans to the USA because I'm just not interested in it. I'm sure there are pretty places, but in terms of history, culture, food, etc. the US doesn't interest me.
I would quite like to visit Hawai'i some day, but I'm a little confused about what Hawaiians have said about how tourism negatively affects their economy, the lives of native Hawaiians, historical and cultural monuments and artefacts, etc. And I wouldn't want to visit a place where my tourism could be harmful to the people who live there. I can admire from afar.
Stop going to the major cities of the USA. That's not where you find the awesomeness of the USA. Stop going to the touristy places...it's not worth fighting the crowds of other tourists. Go to Washington State and take a trip to the San Juan Islands in Puget Sound. Travel down Hwy 2 and go to Leavenworth that is a Bavarian town at the base of the Cascade Mountains. And stop at the fruit stands to get fresh cherries, apples and pears that were picked from the orchards right behind the stands. Come skiing in Washington during the winter months. There are so many things to do that don't involve large cities. Just take time planning, go online to ask locals where the best places are and realize that the USA is a big place with lots to explore.
Agreed. I live in Oregon, and don't get me wrong, I think parts of Portland are very nice, but the best places are outside of the major cities.
Load More Replies...I live in the US and I don't see people carrying guns. The fear is overrated. I'm a bit tired of the American-bashing. We are a very safe county with nice roads and wonderful communities and scenery.
I agree that the us bashing on this website is too much. It seems here the posters hadn't left NYC and judging a huge country on one city is plain ignorant.I went coast to coast some years ago after a short work placement in Denver and I had the time of my life. The one thing I disagree with you is gun violence. I was in Denver just after Columbine and in other places I've seen people openly carry guns. As Europeans, we are generally just not used to that (in the UK most cops don't even carry guns) and the statistics on gun crime speak for themselves.
Load More Replies...OK, but using NYC or Los Angeles as the reason you'll never visit the USA again is a lot like somebody saying, "I had a terrible time in West Yorkshire, I'm never going to the UK ever again."
But we did criticize France for experiences in Paris. I agree, the country is bigger than the major cities and that’s true for many counties. I have visited NYC many times, at least once a year as a child (both of my parents grew up in Brooklyn) and it makes me nervous where I don’t feel entirely safe and like I have to hold on to my purse. I’ve been to LA multiple times too (big Dodgers fans) and I was terrified of the driving (why are we repeatedly slamming the gas the the break?), lots of homeless. But I grew up in Pennsylvania and it was beautiful, google PA in the fall and see for yourself. I live in Arizona now and if you come between Oct and March you’ll love it. My brother lives in Washington state, also awesome and nearly the exact opposite of AZ. 😊
Load More Replies...There is some fair criticism here, but NYC is hardly representative of the US as a whole. I'm an American who lives just a few hours drive from NYC, I've visited twice and driven past countless times and have absolutely no desire to ever go again. The only good things about New York like the theater scene and restaurants can be found in other major world cities.
The museums are unsurpassed by those in any other city. I was visiting family in the south part of Manhattan and wanted to go to the Cloisters at the north end of the city, and I was advised to take a bus rather than the subway. The trip took over an hour but I got a wonderful look at the different neighborhoods; it was NYC as the inhabitants experience it. Fascinating!
Load More Replies...Yes, our cities are big. noisy, and dirty, just like everyone else's. Stop going to NYC thinking it's representative. Try visiting Florida (especially the Everglades or Keys), the Ozarks, the Rockies, or the Blue Ridge Mountains. Charsleston SC is a gorgeous little city. And Washington DC, for museums and art, is awesome.
In DC, the fifteen Smithsonian museums, the U.S. Botanical Garden, and the National Gallery of Art do not charge any admission fee, unlike the private museums.
Load More Replies...The US is a very large country with very large cities. There are bad areas in every large city, no matter where you go. There are even dangerous places in Hawaii where it's not recommended to go. It's really up to the traveler to do research and ask the locals ie hotel staff, tour guides etc. about possible hazard areas. Not doing so is rather irresponsible. Common sense is really the key when traveling anywhere to have an enjoyable time.
I think a common rule is that the big cities are usually the worst places to travel to
I disagree. Although I can't stand NYC and San Fran, I absolutely love Chicago, Boston and San Diego. Every big city in the U.S. has its own vibe, culture and history, which may appeal to some but not others. The biggest mistake one can make is base their opinion of the entire country on that of one city.
Load More Replies...When I am i Europe with family and friends and people find out I am from the US I always get 1 of 2 reactions which was they really enjoyed it or it was the absolute worst. When I ask were they went if it was the worst it's always and I mean always the same 3 places....NYC, Dallas, and San Francisco. When I show them pictures of New York State alone they look gob smacked at how beautiful it is and didn't know it was there. It's funny the comments stating how ppl from the US know nothing outside the US but those same people don't know anything outside the US but the stereotypical cities they have heard or seen in movies, quite a coincidence! :)
Dallas is like visiting Hamburg or Frankfurt. There's really not a point as a tourist. It's just sprawl.
Load More Replies...The complaints by Longjumping-Oven-631 just feel like the same, generalized complaints everyone has rather than from someone who actually ventured out of NYC. At this point I mostly just ignore these copy-paste 'criticisms'. Its just weird when people write off a whole country how diverse the US is. It'd be like going to a city in Greece and writing off the whole EU. I understand that the US isn't for everyone but just the parroting of the problems they have with us just shows me they're mostly complaining in bad faith.
I am forever amazed how otherwise sophisticated Europeans think they have an opinion about the USA after having only visited New York City, Hollywood or Las Vegas. The USA is a big place, and many cities have neighborhoods as large as many European cities. If you visit the USA decide what you want to experience and go to that part of the country. You do not need a separate visa to travel thousands of miles in the USA. There is literally everything there. Visit a National Park. Visit a small town. Go have an ice cream in Salt Lake City.
Chad
PM_ME_YOUR_PRINTS said:
Chad. Definitely the most depressing country I have ever been to.
WhatDaufuskie replied:
I've heard Chad described as "the Mississippi of Africa"
human-potato_hybrid replied:
Fun fact, there is ONE movie theatre in the entire country.(As of several years ago). And the average internet speed is 1.2 Mbps (assuming you have coverage, and the electricity is on)
Lol you don't go to Chad (or any part of Africa for that matter) for the movie theatres and Internet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Or any part of Africa for that matter." You should make your research before writing stupid and untrue statements like that. We don't live in the Stone age like you think. I live in Nigeria and the internet is great. And we also have theatres. Lots of them actually.
Load More Replies...Laos
Laos. My family is from there. My mom’s side is problematic (abuse of all kinds, narcissism, etc). My dad’s side went through my bags and luggage trying to steal stuff.
I am sad because I’m a first generation Asian-American and I have no family in the states either that I can count on. I have no family in my immediate family. Everything is dysfunctional.
This went down a weird road. Sorry.
EDIT: I want to clarify that this is not a generalization of Laos as a country and Laotian people as a whole. This is specifically about my experience with my family and why I will not come back if it means seeing them again. I think this is a valid boundary to set for myself.
Laos is the land of magic and beauty. Untouched, rugged, gorgeous. If you're not a moron, you'll be just fine. One of the most amazing countries on earth.
LMAO US made the cut, yeah, it's pretty much a cesspool. NYC I will never understand the love for, you can walk from the curb, to a hotel check in, tip 3 times. Miss a tip, or they don't think it was enough, well, they will tell you. It's a place that the young seem to enjoy tuning out the drunks, homeless, the dirt, the panhandling, even those streets characters in head costumes. But as you age, New Yorkers get grumpy, probably because the rose colored glasses come off, they discover that they have been a spin floater in a porcelain bowl.That they knew how to live in NYC, the ropes, was just horse blinders.
Are you aware that the vast majority of the US is NOT like NYC?
Load More Replies...Jordan
I hope that I never have to go back to Jordan. I am a 60 year old woman and was traveling with another woman my age about 4 years ago. We were so excited to see Petra and to learn about the culture. Instead, we had more than one sexist male guide who was verbally anti-Western/Euro. Okay, I can understand politics for sure- however, we (Americans and Europeans) according to one guide, are responsible for men “turning gay” and that Jordanian men were never gay until they saw such things on American and European television. Oh- another one? We’re filthy because we have dogs in our houses. Yet another said that he’d never let his wife wear makeup (we wear makeup AND we were traveling “just two gal pals”). Anyway- The food sucks. Their national dish is some slop called Mansaf. It tastes like a sheep died of old age and was then slow boiled in poor quality yogurt for 2 days. I met up with some very cool Palestinians in Hebron after that.. They invited me to lunch at their home and I was shocked at the delicious food. I told them that I’d just come from Jordan and they laughed and said that they all agreed that Jordanian food is garbage.
The person that wrote the post has got a point. I'm sure you've done that before.
Load More Replies...Vietnam
I’m Vietnamese and I will never visit Vietnam again for as long as my girlfriend and I are together. When I was there I had two separate men come up to my girlfriend offering her money to “buy” her away from me. An American white woman brings out the worst I guess.
It's not her, or you, it's them. Y'all are perfect for each other and I'm sure you make her happy. Keep her around.
Singapore
Singapore.. Great company and friendly people. Except.... On the first day I was in a sports bar beaten up. My ausaulter was a man which I later learned was the boyfriend to a woman I asked to dance. Suckee punched and went to the floor immediately, getting kicked. People intervened after what felt like a minutes when he picked up a chair to continue. That per se would not have been a reason not to visit it anymore its what followed: The bartender told me I should leave asap and sleep it off (after multiple hits against the head) or he will get police involved and tell them I started the fight. Since I suspected a concussion I called 911 I fled the bar and called 911 on the streets. There the bartender or manager followed me with two big employees of his and tried to get me with slight force ijn his "back office to talk so I don't ruin my life and that of my family in a lawsuit" I actually had to shout on a full street something silly like "emergency help help" multiple times at some point so he and his men would leave me alone. It was clearly ment as imposing and I am very thankful I didn't follow him in his office with his two strong men. Eventually the ambulance came, I got first aid and made my statement. While I heavily tried to get any information off the police and visited them and my embassy multiple times there I noticed they had no interest in following my case. There were multiple security cameras, a bar and a street full of fitness in a lively and well esteemed shopping/entertainment area. Just no interest of the police to get bad reputation for their city state I suppose. Singapore has a very low crime rate but I am quite sure my attack never showed up in any statistic whatsoever Emails and follow ups by myself, insurance and my local police were ignored. Just dead silent and condolence from my embassy. Still have minor sight issues on my left eye and very minor headaches after 4 years.
Lived there for 10 years. There is a lot that doesn't make it into crime stats. The biggest one is murder, unfortunately.
More to the story here than the OP wants to admit. Namely, I've been to tons of bars in Asia and you don't ask a woman to dance. It's rude. Not to mention he probably stumbled into a triad run bar and hit on one of the capo's girls.
I lived in Singapore back in 2001 for a year. I loved it. Probs my a different place now
you ask a random lady to dance with you, then get beaten up. Think you'll be cool if some random guy ask your wife or girl like that??
Hong Kong
Hong Kong. Didn't meet a single genuinely nice person in there and they curse at other Asian tourists there (I'm Asian and can understand some Cantonese and grew up learning some Mandarin). Safe to say they're not really nice.
edit: I'm not from mainland China. I'm Indonesian.
Tunisia
Tunisia, the drive from the airport to our resort was a sight to behold. Felt as if we were travelling through a live warzone. Didn’t feel safe out and about at all, and it’s just depressing to look around and see the state of the country. Massive shame, because their beaches are lovely.
Algeria
Algeria...even tho Im franco Algerian i don’t like it there because people are weird and look at you like a piece of meat, and you don’t have a lot of fun if you go to little cities...but Alger is really great tho
Zimbabwe
kation1234 said:
Zimbabwe, swamped everyday by street vendors. Everyday.
YuckMuffin replied:
I was born there and moved to the UK when I was 3 years old. Haven't been back since and don't think I will ever go back, it's sad really but they are in such a dire state...
Craig8123
I spent a month in Zimbabwe and it was one of the best experiences of my life. Of course there is poverty but the majority of people are so incredibly welcoming and generous. The wildlife is incredible. Vic Falls is tremendous.
I couldn’t recommend Zim more.
Yeah there's street vendors everywhere because people are poor and unemployed and trying to earn money any way they can. At least it's street vendors and not muggers In general Zimbabweans are amazing, kind and hardworking people and the country is beautiful, if you stay out of cities. Aren't you in Africa to enjoy nature and wildlife anyway?
Just like said already, there are a lot of street vendors in Zim because even with a university degree you can't get a job (I wouldn't point this on the ordinary people, it's not their fault), but you still must eat, have a house and pay ur kid's school fees. In most parts being friendly to them, saying no thank you if you don't need what they are selling and so on helps a lot. Zims are friendly and helpful people, though in the biggest tourist attractions (let's say Vic Falls) it might not be the same as they live on tourism.
Uruguay
Uruguay, filed to the brim with racists from my experience
A country I´ve never thought of visit, not for bad reasons, only I didn´t thought at it
Large cities, like Montevideo, aren't that great. But smaller places, like Colonia, are charming.
I cannot say. the population is mostly European descend (Italian, German, Polish, Spanish) and now they have some refugees from Haiti and around the Caribbean area, so maybe there is something, but I did not witness it
Uruguay did not have a "native" race when Europeans got there. Mostly German and other Europeans. I met some Uruguayans in the old Soviet Union. They were traveling from Paris to Vladivostok by Volkswagen Bus. I was not aware that non-Russians were allowed to go to Vladivostok. They all looked and acted like Nazis, scariest people I ever met.
Yes, Lara, there were natives in Uruguay....they were killed by those European colonizers you are talking about. "The Charrúa people were massacred in a campaign in 1831 by the white colonial forces in Uruguay known as the Massacre of Salsipuedes." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charr%C3%BAa
Load More Replies...Cuba
Cuba, the staff were very friendly but it was obvious that they were forced to be that way or else. The food was also pretty bad, I was even served raw food on several occasions and surprise, surprise I got a real nasty stomach bug from it. Additionally, our beds were tiny and we had to sleep cramped together as no one was willing to sleep on the floor due to all the cockroaches.
Bahamas
No offense but f**k the Bahamas. It’s a tourist trap and not a very good one at that. More like a third world country trying to play at capitalism.
Kind of unfair, many third world countries try to play at capitalism, because there´s no options
Next time, just go for a bicycle tour around your own country. Flights you don't NEED to take should be strongly discouraged in our day and age anyway (energy crises, pollution, climate change, etc ;)
We got married in the Bahamas in 2005. Resort was great. Beaches were great. Snorkeling and day trips were great. We stayed as far away from Atlantis and other touristy places and hung out with the locals who were super friendly. We were there over Junkanoo, similar to Mardi Gras but on Boxing Day, Dec 26th, and had a blast. Ate so much lobster that we watched them just pull right out of the ocean.
Tunisia
Tunisia, i hate it with a burning passion food is good but the polluted beach, the mean locals, the temperatures and the smell makes it an awful country i only have bad memories of this place i wish i wasn't tunisian
Brunei
Brunei. Not because it's dangerous. Not because of the people. It's the safest place I've been in and the people there are super nice. Nothing happens there. Not in the four and a half years I've lived there. There is nothing fun there, it's got no interesting historical monuments. It's boring and there's nothing to see. All I'll remember from there was the time spent in the international school, close friends, and everything I did outside of the country prior to the pandemic
And also....the whole "stoning gay people to death" thing....
Australia
Australia. As an American, I was made to feel unwelcome on a daily/hourly basis. And I’m a worldly American who never had problems with anyone, even Parisians. I was there for two months and was subjected to things like being called a Seppo, which is extremely insulting and rude. Hardly a day went by where I didn’t hear that word. And when you take exception to it, they gaslight you like you’re too uptight and can’t take a joke and you’re the problem. And I got made fun of for holding my utensils a certain way while eating. People down there, I found, were rubes with no manners. Add to that the daily generalized, ignorant questions (‘Why do all Americans....’ or ‘You F*****g Americans....’). Someone actually asked me ‘Why do all American phone numbers start with 555.’ I am not making that up. Then you turn on the news or a talk show and listen to more snide remarks. It doesn’t strike me as a good deal to spend all that money to be subjected to unprovoked hostility on a daily basis. I would not recommend that any American go down there.
Ok..if you have people asking you why all American phone numbers start with 555, you are obviously not hanging out with the people that have top-of-the-class educations. I had a professor that said that he was on a cargo ship with people from SE Asia that thought all American women that were blonde and big chested liked to be groped. Television shows are made up BS. Every time someone says "Well it was in this show so it must be true" I think of Galaxy Quest. It's a TV show, not historical archives.
Of course, the flip side, most Americans don't understand 555 either. Anytime I have to provide a phone number to someone I don't want to I give them my area code+555+my last four. That way if they ever have to look me up, they'll find me, but it's that fewer robo calls I have to endure. Only been caught once, and he was older.
Load More Replies...“And I’m a worldly American who never had problems with anyone, *even Parisians.*” tells me everything I need to know about this person.
The stereotypical Parisians are notoriously difficult to get along with at home or abroad. They are mirror images of the ugly arrogant American abroad.
Load More Replies...I'm a Brit and travelled all over Australia for two years, to every state as well to cities and the outback. I worked in various places too. Brits are easy and common targets for banter but in all my time there, I never once felt like the op.
Us Australians ALWAYS use banter with people. It's when we DON'T banter with you that I would be worried
Load More Replies...Is "seppo" really that bad? It's short for rhyming slang and clearly supposed to be humorous. Maybe just a difference in humour or that, combined with the other issues you had, it was the last straw?
Yeah, it is short for septic tank, right? I don't think anyone would want to be called that? And....arent you doing what he said was done to him...." they gaslight you like you’re too uptight and can’t take a joke and you’re the problem."...thereby giving his experience validity?
Load More Replies...i've never seen that happen here but that obviously doesn't mean it doesn't. Australia's main problem from my perspective is the c**p attempt to create a refugee system (is that the right word??). It is horrific.
I'm an Aussie, never heard of Seppo...most Australians shorten names, and give nickname to people, even though the meaning I have now found of seppo is not nice, we are a fairly relaxed bunch of people, for the most part, but as with anywhere on this earth you get the good, and the bad...sorry you had a shitty experience...try again oneday...may be better, I hope so
Us Australians calling you names is a GOOD THING!!! If we DON'T call you names, then we DON'T LIKE YOU!!! We call EVERYONE NAMES!!!
Switzerland
I liked Switzerland, but it was really, really expensive. Beautiful, but the most expensive country I’ve visited. I’m not going to avoid it, but it’s not the top on my list to visit again.
That's why my uncle makes the 200 IQ move: He lives in Germany (half as expensive) and has his job as a doctor in Switzerland.
Some of my Swiss colleagues are the same but they live in France so just drive over the border. Swiss wages and French living costs.
Load More Replies...It was expensive 20 years ago when I was working there. I dread to think what it is like now.
I was there in July and almost fell on the floor with the lunch account
Load More Replies...Heck yes! It is... I'm still struggling how a half a pizza accompanied by 0,3L of Coke end up to cost 18,00 Franken (which would have only been probably 6€ across the board). But I honestly like the people and their good cheese/beef/meat/chocolate. (Not to mention that people on both sides of the Swiss border make the best of living there 😉)
I agree that Switzerland is horribly expensive for tourists… but just keep in mind that everything is higher here - the wages, the prices, the living costs (the same applies to Norway and other “expensive” countries). And not only for tourists but for Swiss people, too. I used to work at a bar as a student and I often had to explain to (mostly lovely) tourists that if we halved our food/drink prices, we would be homeless in a couple of months.
I thought my travel buddy was joking when he said he paid £35 for very sad hamburger from street vendor by lake Geneva. Then we went out for dinner and paid £100 for single course meal each, and it was not even nice. Spent the rest of the weekend there eating at kebab shop which was both affordable and delicious.
Wow. The first time that the expense was the reason for not wanting to visit a country again rather than violence and poverty and crime and corruption and sexual harassment and racism and sex trafficking, etc.
hahaha everybody with there own reasons, I would probably come back, so beautiful, neat, safe country, is worth it for a few days
Load More Replies...Yes, very expensive. I also got put off on how everything seemed to be on a schedule. For example we were talking to a guy we'd met and he had to rush off as his laundry slot in the building he lived in was every second tuesday at 20:00. Asked someone about it and they said it was normal. Maybe just the area we were in?
Trinidad And Tobago
Trinidad and Tobago. I had a conference on Tobago so my husband and I decided to go for a week. Spent a few days in Port of Spain first. They drive on the other side of the road which is challenging enough but they drive like maniacs. We went back to the hotel every night before dark because we didn’t feel safe. When we got to Tobago we drove around the island and every time we stopped to look at a view someone would try to get money out of us. Then, our conference had an evening event that ran long and has very little food, so we get back to the resort and try to get dinner. Note that this was supposedly the nicest resort on the island. Get seated, handed menus, and the server comes back 10 minutes later and says they are closed. Go to another restaurant on the property, same thing. The day we left my husband and I ended up on separate Caribbean Air flights back to Port of Spain. I ended up missing our flight on AA to Miami. There was no rhyme or reason to the flight schedule from Tobago back to Port of Spain. The agent they’re just kept telling me that my flight was next but could not tell me when that would be. When I got to the airport in Port of Spain I could see my American Airlines flight but I still had to reclaim my bag and recheck it. The flight attendants were really nice and did their best to get me over there but I missed it and had to spend the night. I did not feel comfortable being on my own, but I really had no choice. I had to get a hotel for the night. One of the women on my flight was from Trinidad and was very concerned about me, and making sure that I would be safe. Which pretty much confirmed I’d just stay at the hotel. American made me buy a whole new ticket, and they didn’t want to put me on the 7 AM flight to Miami because I would have an eight hour layover until I could get on a flight home. I told him I didn’t care I’d much rather hang out at the Miami airport.
Belgium
Dynasty2201 said: Belgium. Well, specifically Brussels. They're like the French but far worse. Sneering at anyone not Belgian or speaking French. Brussels is also surprinsgly run down for the HQ of the EU. wrenisanecklace replied: Belgium. Specifically Brussels (train Station brussels midi). I don't speak french and asking for directions at the train Station isn't a good idea. I got yelled at or just ignored when it was obvious that people understood me and were just annoyed I didn't speak french. On the other side: I travel to France frquently. Never had an issue. Everybody I asked was incredibly friendly and more than willing to help out in english. I still travel to Brussels - on my way to france. But I would never again stop there or visit.
Hmnnnn, I am French (from Paris) and I live in Brussels. I very, very strongly disagree. Brussels is friendlier than Paris and the Belgians are generally kinder people than the French, trust me. You guys just had bad experiences and probably hung out in the wrong spots. Also please note : Bruxelles Midi is an international train station, it is neither representative of Brussels nor of Belgium.
I spent 3 months working in Brussels and never had a problem in that respect. What I wasn't prepared for was just how ****ing cold it was in Feburary. There was literally ice on the street. Thankfully we found a nice restaurant who would give us a shot before we went back out into the cold. One day was so cold they gave me one on the way in!
Brussels really has look of poor, filthy place - it is surprising indeed as being EU HQ
I went into a shop in Brussels and asked in my best (horrible) middle-school French, "Parlez vous anglais?" The shop keeper answered, "Yes, do you?" We chuckled. So they're not all jerks.
I hate Belgium, everyone I come across was drunk, rude, or both. Brussels is the most boring city. I was lucky I was with a Dutch friend so we got minimal help to find a hotel (that was before smartphones). Never went back!
Huh, Belgium is interesting. I still like the country, especially the flams speaking crowd. But it, for the coastline it isn't as attractive as the Netherlands or Danmark (or even Channel facing UK, with its own flairs)... and not to mention Brussels Gare Midi and the way to walk into the city...!!!
Brussels has it's nice sides too, art nouveau buildings and museums etc, but we have one rule; avoid the trainstation Brussels midi (and Brussels nord). If you can, get out at brussels 'centrale'. Of the three train stations of BRU that one is the 'nicest'. Brussels has two sides; a very posh side with beautiful buildings, parcs, musea, or the rough side with beggars, dirt,... A pity the city is two faced. Antwerp, Bruges, Gent are also nice cities with less crime.
Bolivia
Bolivia. The food was a big no (especially as a Vegetarian) and the people seemed to be annoyed by our presence. We were probably just unlucky but it felt soooo good to cross the border to Brazil.
Mediterranean countries have that due to being really old and their pipes are really od systems too. Now that I think about it, not only Mediterranean but a lot of other European countries too...
Load More Replies...Sounds like a lot of people complaining that they booked their vacation in a third-world country or a recent war zone and are then *shocked* that people are poor.
How is it xenophobia when some of the commenters/OPs were from the countries they mentioned? Also how is it xenophobia when women were literally sexually harassed? You are allowed to not like a country based on your experience there.
Load More Replies...How come Russia is not on the list? I was sure we'd be #1 now, all things considered. Oh, wait, nobody comes here in the first place, so no one to share their bad experiences :D
It's become the world's Lord Voldemort - the country that must not be named (or mentioned for that matter).
Load More Replies...A lot of these are people using a single city/area as a representation of the whole country.
So glad I didn’t see Nepal on this list. I’m travelling there now and they are the nicest people I’ve ever met. The country is amazing
So... you cannot go anywhere, because someone had bad experience there. Or because someone was xenophobic.
Genuine question, please don't downvote, shouldn't the title be "....why they're not *setting* foot in....". Or do other people say "stepping foot"?
While I would go back to the USA, I'll never want to go to New York again. The ego from the people that live there purely because they're 'New Yorkers' really put me off. They were rude, loud and sometimes quite aggressive. A few people I have spoken to who have visited have said the same so it's not just me.
@ Emma. Not sure where you are from, but if you need some ideas on good places to visit, I suggest avoiding the major cities in the USA and sticking with stuff off the beaten path. You will actually find that people that live away from the cities are a lot nicer. Also avoid the tourist traps. Lots of rude people being herded like cattle. If you want to see something amazing, this weekend is the opening weekend of the Hot Air Balloon Festival in New Mexico. There is an Irish Music Festival in Ocean Shores WA in a couple of weeks. And there is a Pirate Festival that takes place every summer in Westport, WA. There are also scenic drives and lots of B&B's in the USA. Just find a state you want to visit, ask the locals for the off-the-beaten-path non-touristy places and they will deliver. Hope you come back and have a great time while you are here.
Load More Replies...After reading this thread, I've never been more secure in my agoraphobia.
Sounds like a lot of people complaining that they booked their vacation in a third-world country or a recent war zone and are then *shocked* that people are poor.
How is it xenophobia when some of the commenters/OPs were from the countries they mentioned? Also how is it xenophobia when women were literally sexually harassed? You are allowed to not like a country based on your experience there.
Load More Replies...How come Russia is not on the list? I was sure we'd be #1 now, all things considered. Oh, wait, nobody comes here in the first place, so no one to share their bad experiences :D
It's become the world's Lord Voldemort - the country that must not be named (or mentioned for that matter).
Load More Replies...A lot of these are people using a single city/area as a representation of the whole country.
So glad I didn’t see Nepal on this list. I’m travelling there now and they are the nicest people I’ve ever met. The country is amazing
So... you cannot go anywhere, because someone had bad experience there. Or because someone was xenophobic.
Genuine question, please don't downvote, shouldn't the title be "....why they're not *setting* foot in....". Or do other people say "stepping foot"?
While I would go back to the USA, I'll never want to go to New York again. The ego from the people that live there purely because they're 'New Yorkers' really put me off. They were rude, loud and sometimes quite aggressive. A few people I have spoken to who have visited have said the same so it's not just me.
@ Emma. Not sure where you are from, but if you need some ideas on good places to visit, I suggest avoiding the major cities in the USA and sticking with stuff off the beaten path. You will actually find that people that live away from the cities are a lot nicer. Also avoid the tourist traps. Lots of rude people being herded like cattle. If you want to see something amazing, this weekend is the opening weekend of the Hot Air Balloon Festival in New Mexico. There is an Irish Music Festival in Ocean Shores WA in a couple of weeks. And there is a Pirate Festival that takes place every summer in Westport, WA. There are also scenic drives and lots of B&B's in the USA. Just find a state you want to visit, ask the locals for the off-the-beaten-path non-touristy places and they will deliver. Hope you come back and have a great time while you are here.
Load More Replies...After reading this thread, I've never been more secure in my agoraphobia.

