“I Was Briefly Anti-Vax”: People Share What Made Them Change Their Stance On Something

The problem with universal healthcare most people have, is that you pay for it through taxes regardless of being sick or not. Rich people don't want to pay for anyone else, because that would lower their riches. So they start to indoctrinate the masses that universal healthcare is evil. In Germany we have the GKV since 1883, which not even the Nazis dared to touch.

What is even stupider is that in the US we ultimately pay more for healthcare per person than those with universal healthcare. It is just not directly so people don’t realize it.

We are in Australia with a child with a chronic illness. The staff at the public children's Hospital are some of the most amazing people I have ever met and besides from a few unscheduled tests and a couple of prescriptions (that are subsidised) we haven't had to pay for any treatment.

The common excuse in America is "How we going to pay for it? We can't afford it" Then every year congress raises the defense budget to as high as the president wants. They can find the money to kill, but none to save lives.

Yes, my entire family would have died well before their time. My brother, from a stroke at 32, my mum from uterus cancer at 36, my from uterus cancer at 52, my sister from appendicitis in her 20s simply because choices would have been different. Calling an ambulance for my sister might have been pain killers and a trip to the GP the next day if it still hurts with fingers crossed even. At best we would all have filed for bankruptcy long ago and not seen as a good bet for employment by anybody.

There's an inherent desire among many Americans to feel that they're living the American Dream. Not the wealthy, just ordinary people. To do so there must be a lower class on whom they can look down, so even some of those who struggle to pay their own medical bills will continue to vote for the very system that causes their problems because it keeps some people in a worse condition than them.

If labour hadn't won, the NHS would be privatized by now, a copy of the yank system.

Libertarian brain rot is why. I had a Libertarian friend explain his position on hating the EPA, and his solution for privatized environmental control is to... and I kid you not.. "build a dome around my house." Just cuz he didn't want to pay taxes for an EPA department.

They're against it because the Orange Moron said it's bad. 🤦‍♀️

I live in Brazil, we also have universal health care and there are some that are against it.

I'm so proud of you Cee Cee

...why did you feel it necessary to mention the race of the guy who brought the tea? You didn't mention the race of the nurses or doctors. Seems odd.

Certain voters are going to learn that…

And 100% of all right wing propaganda is meant to dissuade people of that truth and blame liberals, immigrants, gays, and women for the country's problems.

I see "Premium", I down vote. This is my way of protesting Bored Panda transitioning into a subscription site.

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Agreed, but it IS possible to hustle to ensure your survival. The amount of people on our local facebook who would rather complain than do something about it, is infuriating.

Wish I could upvote more

My dear, give yourself some grace. You've had an incredibly important realization at a relatively young age. Too many people live their entire lives without doing so.

The first time I heard someone say that no one is pro-abortion, they framed it like this: "No one is pro-abortion. No one says, OMG I just had *the* best abortion, you have *got* to have one!" It makes me laugh to this day when I think about it, and it's also very true.

Like the 10 year old who had to travel from Ohio to Indiana after being molested? I have pushed back on strident Pro-Lifers with the argument there is a LOT of gray in this area. It ain't black and white.

thank you for saying it better than I could

I tend to think a lot of ppl who are pro-life have had charmed lives. That's the only way I can make sense of their opinion. It's easier to be pro-life if you've never had anything that bad happen to yourself or a loved one. It tends to be the mindset that SA, serious health complications, domestic violence and poverty only happens to other ppl.

Exactly. I've never heard ANY woman consider abortion as a contraceptive method or take it lightly. It is a tough choice to make, and usually it's the last resort when all other choices are impossible. But apart from unwanted pregnancies, an abortion is a medically important procedure in many cases, to save a woman's life and her prospect to have a viable pregnancy in the future.

I have to agree to this. Now, biology made me proof in regard to ever needing one myself, but, as there are no ethically relevant implications, like there are if we're talking about the treatment of sentient beings, such as born children, born pigs, born cows and so forth, I am by no means against abortions. The effect it has on the mother-not-to-be is the only thing I think should be kept in mind in that department, as she's who, potentially suffers. Of course, people deciding for themselves and themselves only to not want abortion because it "feels wrong" or so, I won't interfere with. But, we gotta be strict here - such decisions are limited only to the own uterus, as there is no logically sound ethical objection possible (in about the first 20 weeks). But, after 20 weeks, isn't the mother-not-necessary-to-be still wayy more important than an embryo that just developed the first, neglible (and exceeded by routinely completely neglected) ability of any perception? Yes. So ... choice, all the way and then some.

Well said

Men need women to pass on their genes, if women can chose not to do so that might result in a particular man not being able to do so.

But the party moved further to the right too.