This Online Page Shares Memes To Send To Your Friends To Radicalize Them, And Here Are 50 Of The Most Eye-Opening Ones
InterviewSeeing the injustice and unfairness that surrounds you in your daily life can lead to an explosive cocktail of emotions: anger, anxiety, and even despair. Too much of anything can be incredibly bad for society as a whole. And some people feel that the root of pretty much all of the evil to be found on Planet Earth is capitalism—or rather the bottomless greed and inhumanity it propagates. All for the sake of profit.
These people fight in the hope of changing the way that society, business, and politics are all structured. Their goal? A more fair and equal society for everyone. Where workers are compensated well. Where everyone has access to affordable housing. And where everyone has enough free time to follow their passions instead of grinding overtime just to keep a roof over their heads. One way to fight for change is via memetic warfare: witty but accurate social commentary with the help of memes.
‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends’ is a popular Facebook page that shares “short-form anti-capitalist and leftist content” to share with “the uninitiated.” We’ve collected some of their most powerful posts to share with you today, Pandas (all with a heavy dose of irony and laughing through tears).
Bored Panda reached out to the founder of ‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends,’ Heather, who calls themselves "a centrist among leftists" and "a curator of content." They shared that their main mission is to share the same kind of content that helped move them from centrism to leftism. They were kind enough to answer our questions about the roots of the project itself, how they choose what content to share with their audience, as well as what issue with capitalism ought to be tackled first, realistically. Read on for the full in-depth interview, Pandas.
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Yep, So many companies received grants over the pandemic here, while workers didn't only for them to declare record profits....and give nothing to their "essential" staff.
I think we always knew this—but we didn’t quite do anything about it. Just shoved into the back of our heads and forgot. We should start taking accountability for the fact that this is partially our faults for not doing any thing about it.
Huh he just broke this down to a point where i could understand it. Props to this guy
Heather, from the US, opened up to Bored Panda about how their political views changed over time and everything that led to them creating ‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends.’ "I grew up fairly privileged, white, Jewish, with 2 white collar parents in a higher income area of a blue state. I didn’t pay much attention to politics and would call myself a centrist or moderate." However, that soon changed with the election of Donald Trump.
"When Donald Trump was elected, it became apparent that I could no longer ignore politics. Several factors came together to educate me about the experiences of folks with less privilege. Content on Facebook led me to more political groups and the beliefs that resonated as the most aligned with my personal values were anti-capitalist. It didn’t take me long to accept that many of the problems with the world today are rooted in capitalism and America’s adherence to it. I learned that the American party system was between right-wing centrists (Democrats) and further right conservatives (Republicans)," Heather explained.
"As hate crimes against Jews rose, I started my first page, a centrist page, to make sure people knew what was going on. I quickly retired that one though as it took only a few months for me to completely abandon centrism and move hard left. I joined 'leftbook' groups, places on Facebook where anti-capitalist beliefs were shared. I was growing more and more radicalized by the content I was seeing and I liked who I was becoming. I started to explore my gender and became involved in queer spaces as well. I got an unjust ticket and in using my privilege to take off work and have a lawyer to fight it, I appreciated how few others were simply being screwed by the system without the privilege."
I like how the comparison is made between monkeys and rich, useless f**ks.
If a monkey figured out it could trade something to other monkeys for bananas and then started stockpiling that then scientists would be heralding the intellectual and social evolution of the species though...
The irony broooo. Except I doubt scientists would waste time figuring out what was wrong with it lol
Well that's mainly because we want to be the hoarder monkey. We think that by idolizing them we'll somehow become them.
Personally, I don't want to be the hoarder monkey. Keeping track of all those bananas doesn't sound fun.
Load More Replies...That's ridiculous! These billionaires donate at least 0.01 percent of their wealth to charity.
Well that's inacurate, isn't it? There's no limit of money in the world. Banks literally print them. People starve not because other people have more money then them.
But if banks just print more it devalues that money
Load More Replies...If it were about babies, the US wouldn't have the worst infant mortality rate in the developed world.
Or the worst maternal mortality rate in the developed world.
Load More Replies...Not to mention the foster care system would be better funded and potential foster parents more thoroughly vetted.
And adoption would be easier. They make a couple jump through hoops to prove they're worthy and sometimes make them wait years.
Load More Replies...If it was about babies, there would be better gun control laws and guaranteed food security.
"My religion and beliefs forced me to have a child I did not want, so now I am going to make sure everyone else suffers the same." This is what I feel is going on. It's never been about the welfare of a bunch of cells, it's about Christian hate. My question is, do zygotes go to heaven? Edited to be more clear. Original missing "" and second sentence.
Dude half those people are the same ones behind closed doors getting abortions popping plan b....a judge in michigan tried shutting down an abortion and his ex wife came out and said that they got an abortion, just cause they didn't want it not cause of medical or safety purposes....they're all the biggest hypocrites its money and control
Load More Replies...if it was about life, then there would be gun control in the US.
Obviously it's not about the babies. It's all about the control of women
I get the feeling "they" think if abortions are banned all women will mysteriously leave work, return to the kitchen, take off their shoes, put on an apron and start baking cookies.
Well I'm all in favor of people baking cookies, but not like this. Never like this.
Load More Replies...How else are they going to make sure the next generation of slave-wage earners will be there to do all the work and make the big business profits?
It was around the same time that Heather was experimenting with another meme page over on Facebook. They were learning a lot about how to grow a page into a successful social media project.
"When Covid hit in 2020, I started 'Revolutionary Memes for Rona-Ridden Quaranteens,' a play on a few other pages and groups who had names with similar rhyming schemes. I was sharing content about quarantining and the need for us to worry less about the economy and more about the well-being of fellow man," Heather told Bored Panda about the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.
"When George Floyd was murdered and protests began, I focused on content that supported the Black Lives Matter movement and how the destruction of property is a valid form of protest against injustices such as those faced by people of color at the hands of the police," they said. "My goal was to share the same kinds of content that had helped radicalize me from centrist to leftist. The page grew fast but I wanted to make it clearer what it was for." That's when they changed the name of the page to 'Memes to Radicalize Your Friends.'
"I was targeting fellow leftists primarily. I wanted people who agreed with me to share the content. I wanted people who saw the content to be curious about it and explore more. The page was growing but Facebook’s algorithms were more strict. After January 6th [the Capitol riots], it was hard to share political content without getting violations. I suffered many violations for content most people would agree was benign. Even after the violations expired, I saw my page reach was savaged by the Facebook algorithm," Heather explained that it became more and more difficult to express their political thoughts online at this time.
It's a fundamental problem of sustained supply. If you have 100 apples, 50 go to investors, 40 to owners, and 10 to the workers, but you need to grow next year to expand the share for investors and owners... only the growing isn't ever fast enough. So next year 110 apples but 55 for management 45 for owners and nothing more for you until an apple costs a 2 apples to buy and you're being told you need to stop demanding more apples because the old employees made due with that many apples. ..
I can't believe the idea that Wall Street should be dismantled is in any way still controversial but here we are
We should probably stop including Dan Price tweets in articles like these considering he resigned as CEO of his company this year after abuse allegations and he used a ghost writer to write these tweets! I cringe whenever I see him pop up here now!
Call it what it is. A system built on greed and mental illness where passing the blame is the best way to deal with problems and gathering so much resources that if it wasn’t money but actual supplies it would be an episode of hoarders. That is America.
Scrooge mcduck is proof. With the right investment it can be hoarding even if it is money.
Load More Replies...Also the supreme court needs an alteration. They should NOT be allowed to decide what cases they hear. Another body that is elected should perform that task.
CEO pay is now way BEYOND ridiculous! If I were surrounded by advisors I could probably make some decent decisions too!.When CEOs stuff up, they get a massive payout! Seriously? Carly Fiorina wa forced to resign from HP after five years of poor stock prices, and the stupid Compaq takeover which effectively sent $20 billion or so to the bottom of the sea. She left with $42 million! If I were to stuff up I would be sacked with NO bonuses; not a payout that would let me live in luxury for life! (Not to mention the exorbitant salary during her tenure as CEO.)
Corporate Welfare issued by cities, counties, states, and federal government is ok by Americans Living wages, affordable housung, food, education, and health care is is socialism Intentional Ignorance
Wait until Dan Price find out about Quantitative Easing. His mind will be completely blown. $9 trillion stolen from the treasury to give to the rich. And technically, it's not counted as "spending" because the federal reserve gets assets for that money. But the fed can't sell the assets back without crashing the markets. $4 trillion under Obama even through 2015, $3 trillion during the pandemic, and another $2 trillion even after the economy stabilized.
I said something long those lines to my coworker the other day and he started going off about “well it’s workers’ own responsibility to get their bills paid, not their employer or the government or society, if they’re in debt it’s their own problem” and I was like “……..I don’t even know where to start with that one so I’m gonna walk away.”
It's... NOT an employer's responsibility to pay a livable wage...? Well then, why the hell am I working 40hrs a week with all this student loan debt? I'm doing what they told me to do!
Load More Replies...Big companies bribing politicians is legal. They are simply called "Campaign Donations"
Our choice. All we do is complain & keep voting in the people who believe only they deserve good healthcare, food, shelter, & etc.
Well,I'm old and I feel it's a fairly recent thing. In history, situations like these used to provoke revolution. Heads rolled. Now, in the US, the near-coup we experienced would not have produced more freedom, it would have given us a new emperor
If thread isn't twisted it will fray..... did I win for more twisted lol
Load More Replies...Like the one about the kid who needed a wheelchair but his insurance didn’t cover it so his school built one for him. Super heartwarming until you realize healthcare in the US is a joke.
Exactly! News stories always twist a heart-wrenching tale into a ‘wholesome’ one. Disgusting. :/
My grandmother had to quit school after 3rd grade so she could work in a tin can factory to help support her very poor family. Back then there were no handouts for immigrants to the US.
Load More Replies...My brain hurts, I was going to comment “the day has 12 hours” but then realised that it’s 24 and also how would it be legal to make a child work 18 hours (how would it be legal to make anyone work 18 hours)
If you own an iPhone that was produced by Chinese slave labor, please take a seat.
This is how you know the back then times where more twisted and f****d up then you thought
"I attempted to run a new page, Memes to Radicalize Your Friends 2.0. It performed a bit better but the growth of the page didn’t compare to the early days. A year later, I retired this page, it having grown at about a quarter of the rate of the 1.0 version. I resumed running content only on the original page. The reach appeared to be repaired but I resigned myself to not seeing the growth I had originally. In 2020, the page would get 1-200 likes a day. Now it gets a fraction of that. But the content is still seen by millions of people. Facebook is not interested in political content being shared. But I’m still interested in using Facebook to share it."
Heather explained to Bored Panda that it would be more accurate to call them a curator than a creator of content. They source posts from all over the net, but they're very selective in what they post.
"I don’t share anything I don’t personally agree with and I don’t share about subjects I’m not well-informed on. The content that performs best is short and sweet, timely, pithy, lightly humorous…" However, it's impossible to know what exactly will perform well or not. There's a bit of luck involved in what content will resonate with the audience. Unfortunately, some posts get quite a bit of hate, and Heather is forced to delete some comments.
We're experiencing this now. My husband spent 2 days in the ED and a week in hospital, to be diagnosed with atrial fibrillation. Medication would work, somewhat, for a short time, but the necessary remedy is a cardiac ablative procedure to fix the problem. Insurance company responds with a letter stating "we need to review your case to ensure this procedure is medically necessary". Mother f*****s, a cardiac surgeon says it's necessary! Anyway, he's getting the procedure on Monday. We'll see if the insurance company pays, or we'll have a $60,000 debt. 🙄
If they turn it down, ask for the names and qualifications of the people who made the decision. Often that will scare them into reversing the decision. It is fully within your rights to have the info. If they ask why you want it, tell them its for your health advocate/lawyer who will be reviewing it and will probably be contacting the people who made the decision. Even if you don't have a lawyer, the scare and hassle factor might make them 'reconsider'. Regarding hospital bills in general, always ask for an itemized bill. Some charges will miraculously disappear, like that $150 charge for aspirin.
Load More Replies...My insurance denied a medication for daily migraines because it wasn't "medically necessary". Why did I need it you ask? Because I had daily migraines....... Can't afford to pay it out of pocket as it costs $4000 A MONTH!
In countries with universal health care, patients may still need to pay for some more expensive or newer drugs, but they only pay the wholesale price, no administration fee, no tax etc. The same migraine drug may cost only $1000 per month in those countries.
Load More Replies...A few years ago, I needed a surgery that had been FDA approved for 14 years. Insurance denied the surgery claiming it to be "experimental". The doctor's office hired yet another party to fight the insurance, which took just over a year to get them to finally approve the surgery, during which I suffered significant damage and became at much greater risk of esophageal cancer. One of the tactics of the insurance company was to send forms that needed to be completed and returned, but were clearly copies of copies of copies until they were illegible and impossible to complete. The third party hired by the doctor either had or tracked down the forms every time so we could move forward.
Universal Healthcare is the same my 72 year old uncle in Scotland got diagnosed with cancer and the government denied him treatment because of his age. He died a few months later.
A third party for profit insurance company who dont even have RNs or Doctors looking at the charts to determine whether a patient needs the surgery, medication, etc.
Hahahahaha. The sarcasm is good on this one. Right. They should read library books and only make meals with fresh fruits that cost double MacDonald’s take out. Bc that’s an effective life happiness plan!
Libraries? That's pretty much socialism, isn't it? Why should people's reading choices be subsidised? [sarc]
Load More Replies...I feel this. 2k for an ER visit where after 4 hours wait they spent two minutes with the patient and did nothing.
I refuse to go to the ER unless my guts are hanging out. A whole lot of waiting for nothing and then getting treated like an idiot (or a drug seeker) for coming.
Load More Replies...I really need to cut out brunch...it's really digging into my savings.
We were moving from San Diego to Springfield, OR for my husband's new job. One night he's in severe pain and tells me I have to take him to the ER. (This is a guy who's called in sick maybe 3 times in the 15 years I've known him, so I knew it was serious). Turned out to be a kidney stone - ONE DAY AFTER HIS INSURANCE ENDED. Yeah, we had to take out a loan to pay the almost $10,000 hospital bill. Welcome to American healthcare.
It's not even really a society if we let people fall through the cracks!
I love the quote about Gandhi, he was asked what he thought of Western civilization and he replied, "I think it would be a good idea".
"I usually find a piece of content I like then preschedule it. The content that is most interesting is when I share trans-positive pieces, They’re pretty benign but TERFs [trans-exclusionary radical feminists] and transphobes like to flood the comments with hate. It continues to be appalling to me that Facebook will punish me for a jocular post about punching nazis Captain America style while allowing such horrific transphobic content calling for people to kill themselves. Facebook’s moderation quality has definitely declined since Covid. People are very full of hate," she pointed out that the quality of Facebook as a social ecosystem seems to have only declined throughout the pandemic.
"I think of myself as a propagandist. This is my praxis, putting theories into practice. I believe that people are swayed by what they are exposed to. My personal beliefs most closely align with eco-socialism. I am neither a militant communist nor a staunch anarchist. I am a centrist among leftists," Heather shared.
The founder of ‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends' told Bored Panda that, in their opinion, the biggest problem with capitalism is income inequality, and how this affects one's ability to own property. Many of you, dear Readers, might agree if you happen to live in the US. "The minimum wage is atrociously low and hasn’t been raised in decades. Meanwhile, the tax rates on the wealthy have been a joke since Reagan’s era," they said.
"I’m most excited about the 'anti-work' movement and the prospect of improved labor rights for the working class. I continue to be privileged with a high-paying and rewarding job in technology but even with my income, I yearn for my own house. Far too many millennials are living in apartments and renting rather than owning and as housing prices climb, they remain out of reach for anyone but the wealthy who buy housing and then rent it back to those who cannot afford it."
But you are using arcane magical sigils and numbers to make numbers dance ;o)
Dancing numbers are irrational but they do like Pi.
Load More Replies...Christians who take the old testament seriously should not be lending at interest. Investing is OK - but if your capital is not at risk it's usury
Never got how you could borrow 50K for school and pay back 1000 a month for 15 years and still owe 60K...
This I why it's better to do a cash out refinance on your home for kids schooling. Yes the rate might at first seem higher than student loans, buy its actually regulated and you actually pay down the principal.
Load More Replies...People also buy and sell debt for enormous profits. Our wealth system is all just zeros and commas. It's imaginary. The suffering, however, is real.
Remember: if you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.
In America, the tighty rightys say that doing this will destroy the economy and add to the national debt which would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions. Also, they added 8 trillion to the debt in the 4 years he who shall not be named was in office.
The assholes who are making money off your interest are the same assholes who are making the laws that won’t let it be forgiven. Why would you let your golden geese fly free when they are slaving away golden eggs for you?
It does cost the lender the $100. Forgiving the $100 means the lender is only seeking the interest on the $100 they lost because it was never paid back. Opportunity cost: if the lender had the $100 it could have funded an investment with great return, therefore the interest charge until paid in full. Relieving the original $100 is negating the original loan amount. That’s a big deal. I get it that interest is amitorized in such a way that it’s an abcene amount of interest dollars in return. That’s the real problem is the amount of interest these loans seek in return. There’s the real sickening culprit.
But we are talking federal loans here, not private. Taxpayers would not be paying for anyone’s loan forgiveness is the point.
Load More Replies...Point taken. However, it is erasing future money and therefore pulling a string out of the Ponzi tapestry (no fan of unsustainable American capitalism). Pulling strings like that pay out only when betting on the default.
I’d like to see anyone with that attitude actually work a job like housekeeping for one day and see how they do.
Putting order to chaos is some of the most important work on the planet.
I have cleaners, and I very much respect and admire the work they do. It's physically demanding and no one wants to have to do it. That being said, I don't think the comment was meant to be degrading. They probably meant that the person is smart enough to do more. It would be a great shame if all the surgeons and engineers settled for cleaning houses simply because there is nothing to be embarrassed about in having the job.
Not necessarily, some janitors that work for colleges make more than elementary school teachers. The janitor has no school debt and started working right away to be in a better position in life.
Load More Replies...My dad's girlfriend is a cleaner and she makes good money. Once while we(my sister and me) helped her,we were allowed to go shopping afterwards and she let us spend $50 each. She is honestly the best
One reason (other than basic decency of course) why I'm always polite and considerate to the people who sweep the floor and empty the bins at the local shopping centre.
House keeping is a great job. Like many cleaning/sanitation jobs it’s unfortunately looked down upon by some and is usually not a job people aspire to. But consider this, it’s a job that can actually pay well. Housekeepers for house cleanings in our area charge around $35 an hour, $20-25 at the higher end luxury hotels (although they get paid just above minimum wage and tips at the small hotels.) and doesn’t require years education and loads of debt. Hours are generally decent too.
I've always been amazed at that sort of purchase. Like...so many other things, why golden stuff.
Load More Replies...Poor people spending money is boosting the local economy. Rich people spending money by investing it offshore is not boosting the local economy.
Yep. Poor people live hand-to-mouth. The money circulates and helps drive the economy.
Load More Replies...People sometimes tell me, "Why do you give homeless people money? You don't know how they'll spend it." Well I don't know how my boss is spending the money I make him, either. Maybe don't judge the needy?
At the time of writing, the page had nearly 71k followers on Facebook, as well as a further 852 fans over on Twitter. ‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends’ is all about calling out the hypocrisy of the current capitalistic way things are structured. In short, the goal is to show people that, hey, there might be a better way of doing things that doesn’t leave people exhausted and exasperated.
Predatory student loans and landlords, unfair minimum compensation for work in the service industry, a lack of paid time off, an absence of federally mandated parental leave, and a very inefficient healthcare system—these are just some of the things that some internet users believe are wrong with life in the United States in 2022. They feel that these things desperately need to change in order for people to live their best lives.
There’s a deep sense of disillusionment that you get while reading the posts shared and curated by ‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends.’ You realize that things are pretty darn bad in certain areas. That’s not to say that all aspects of life are horrible (they’re not—it’s essential to make the best of bad situations), but it’s more of a call to action to not be indifferent.
Speaking up at work, fighting for change in small ways, being actively engaged in bettering your local community—that’s what ends up making your life better, alongside that of your loved ones, coworkers, and neighbors.
They've already moved most manufacturing jobs to countries with few or no laws on child labour anyway so the proof is right there. They're doing it as we speak.
Basically each piece of clothing you have on right now - each piece - could, and probaby is, made by some kid or poor woman where they're worked 16 hours a day for a few cents. We're all f*****g guilty, we just keep consuming the damn materials made. Finding something not made in a foreign land feels nearly impossible - and make no mistake, there's still child labor exploitation in the States, it's just hidden better since there's now actual laws. (Hyundai for example - Nikey is guilty of it too)
Load More Replies...child labour existed well before capitalism. To boot, there was a LOT of child labour in the USSR. Not everything is about the modern USA..
Nowhere is is stated that this comment, or indeed this list, is about the modern USA. It's quite telling that that is your assumption.
Load More Replies...The absence of these laws in so many places around the world is proof enough that greed reigns supreme and people have no qualms turning a blind eye to it when it benefits them. We have all consumed, owned, used, whatever, products that come from literal child labor, knowingly or not (hopefully way more of the latter). We all contribute to this deplorable behavior, and none of us are absolved of it. I've had to remind myself this many, many times, when I see people make comments like this one about child labor in the US. The US is definitely not alone in their guilt on this, the whole world, all of us, is/are.
A huge number still do they’ve just moved the base of their operation to another country
That's so true! But we have to protect the unborn! It is so hypocritical I can't even!
Do they think child labor is limited to capitalism? I'm sure China exploits children all the time, probably for less money a month than most Americans waste in a week on expensive coffee.
The only problem with the above is if you can’t afford a Porsche you don’t forgo buying a car. You buy a used clunker and deal with its level of competencies for what you paid. (e.g. seeking “cheap labor” is the result of the above analogy) What remains: get businesses to not hire cheap labor (under the table) or within the law.
Which is why small businesses should be taxed significantly less and larger corporations significantly more.
Load More Replies...Just because you own a business doesn't mean you should get a break. Owning a business is a luxury. If you can't afford to keep it running while paying your employees a living wage, you don't get to run a business. Competition and capitalism are the American dream, right?
If you can't afford to pay employees a living wage, then your business is losing money and should fail. That is capitalism. If you expect the government to bail out your failed business, that is socialism. You can't have both.
I do feel bad for restaurants, they have EXTREMELY narrow profit margins, most of them barely go beyond making ends meet. Tipping servers helps take some of that burden off of the owners, and it makes sure that only people who do the job well stay employed.
Something's "value" is what you can get for it. If you can get someone to do it for $5 then that's the value. If you have to pay $30 then its value is $30. Like the commercials that proclaim "that's a $100 value for free!" No it's not. If that gift was worth $100, they'd charge $100. Value is set by what people will pay and not wishful thinking.
We are NOT a capitalist society. Did the auto and financial industries go under when they failed? They did not, but they would have in a capitalist system. We are a corporatocracy.
No, they got federal bailouts, whilst flying into Washington,D C. , in their private jets. Yeah, they were really hurting. NOT!! EVER!!
Load More Replies...I'll ask my French carpenter buddy if he can get his hands on some old guillotine blueprints.
‘Memes to Radicalize Your Friends’ is far from the only anti-capitalist page to be found (somewhat ironically) on social media. It’s actually a very popular topic. For instance, a while back, Bored Panda spoke to Angel, the founder of ‘Humans of Capitalism,’ who had a lot to say about the “absurdism of the current capitalistic society and its flaws.”
They believe that capitalism has changed into corporatism. "We often see many small businesses collapsing because they are not able to fight with the current trend or to combat with the giant competitors. So they have two options, close the business or sell it," they told us during an interview.
"We have many companies that have been bought by enormous giants that I do not want to mention and they won't stop there, they are trying to get their hands on any business category. Is there a solution for it? I believe that there can be some solutions, but capitalists will work and find a way to bypass those solutions and continue with the destruction of the system while being totally ignorant about it," Angel, from ‘Humans of Capitalism,’ told Bored Panda earlier.
"If we go back in time where socialism or communism were at their prime, we can see that the top of the head of the system was corrupted and that resulted with the fall of the system," Angel noted that these two systems are not viable alternatives to capitalism. Any system can be corrupted, and it’s essential to look at history realistically instead of through an overly romantic lens.
It’s only controversial to those being taxed. To everyone else it makes sense.
The worst is when the middle class start bitching that it’s be to tax the top 1% more. I’m in constant disbelief that I hear this every election and have to remind them that contrary to their personal beliefs, they are no where near that tax bracket and will pretty much never be unless they won a huge lottery. They are more likely to be 1-2 paycheck a away from being homeless then to ever be part of that top 1% and the dirty looms I get from that are priceless. But seriously. Majority of people are only a couple paycheck a away from poverty but seem to think they are closer to being that too 1% I seriously wonder for peoples mental health
Load More Replies...I'm a firm right-wing capitalist and I believe the so-called 1% need to be taxed much higher. Or let them deduct labor costs at a higher rate than anything else. $1mil in equipment? $500k deduction. $1mil in labor? $1.2mil deduction. Let them "game the system" down to $0 taxes by paying more wages.
The main issue comes from the fact that they have to ability to leave the country or sink more money into evading taxes, and also constantly lobby the government.
...and consider for scale: even if they paid 100 times as much, they'd still have a freaking 900 million left.
It's only controversial to the RICH (including churches in America) getting taxed - to the poor being taxed it just make sense.
The US tax code is a major player in this problem, yet so few people realize it. Wealthy people gain, and hold onto their wealth because the tax code legally allows them to do so. If you are self-employed there are so very many deductions you can take, that salaried/hourly people cannot. Want to "fix" the wealth problem? Start with the tax code.
This is all too real. I'm a biologist and I wanted to work on wildlife biology, but that has not panned out so far. The "Entry Level" jobs for bachelor's degree I look through usually want, on average, 3+ years of experience and someone whom graduated less than 2 years prior. I joined an online group for people interested in a career in wildlife biology, which has people posting jobs around the country (USA) in the field and individuals already established in that field giving tips about getting into it. It was pretty consistent that they would say you have to live out of your car for 5-10 years, going from job to job, in various states, before you would be lucky enough to find a long-term, full-time wildlife biology job that pays you well enough to live off of. The worst part is that many of these individuals have master's degrees or higher. It is a very broken system. You also can't get these jobs without the degrees though. Hitting criteria and wage really need to be fixed.
Also, that should say "hiring criteria", not "Hitting criteria", but autocorrect is a thing, I didn't check that before sending, and I can't edit my comment.
Load More Replies...I would literally tell interviewers to go f**k themselves and walk out.
California recently passed a law requiring employers to state a pay range in job postings. So at least they won't be able to waste your time with the interview process before telling you they don't want to pay anywhere near what you're worth.
Load More Replies...Request: Master degree, 10 years prior experience. Find: Competitive salary!
I worked for a non- profit for more than 30 years. As funding grew increasingly challoand competitive, requirements for staff education and experience increased without a parallel increase in funding. It was humiliating to know people could earn more at places requiring only a HS diploma. There are lots of complex issues that feed into this, I admire non-profits who do all they can to correct these inequities.
You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision, determination, and an endless supply of expendable labor.
Load More Replies...I remember the fuss when 21-year-old Kylie Jenner was dubbed the youngest self-made billionaire (apparently she's only worth about $900 million these days, poor kid /s). Self-made. Hilarious.
i always laugh in the face of the elonmusk fans LOL he has such good Pr and some people are just stupid
To be fair, Bill Gates has never called himself "self made." He has always stated this in many interviews: I am not a self-made man. My parents started me off in life with every possible advantage. https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/posts/i-am-not-a-self-made-man-my-parents-started-me-off-in-life-with-every-possible-a/10154574152591961/
The only one that even gets close to defendable is bezos. There is no denying that it takes a lot of money to start a business, and at the time it was a gamble. But after that, there’s a reason why people say power corrupts. The rest, well, gates supposedly is actually trying to do some good with his money, warren buffet is a tight a*s and musk is quite frankly a dingleberry. I’m gonna throw this out there, no knee jerk reactions please. If Black Lives Matter, if people want some justice done for the indefensible crime of human slavery - Elon musk is the son of a slave owner. He is the poster child for the evil that people want answers for. And here in the USA he is celebrated. There is no excuse for this. He is the image of a rich man being carried on the backs of the oppressed. The politicians, the police, they’re just legacies of a system that was supposed to have died out almost 200 years ago. Musk IS the system.
Warren Buffet has a plan to give away 99% of his wealth before or at his death. He's actually doing some good, so don't call him a tight a*s please. Source: https://givingpledge.org/pledger?pledgerId=177
Load More Replies...The future doesn’t look all that optimistic, according to them. They see a future that is fully automated, where machines produce, deliver, and take care of the food supply, clothing, and health. In this particular case, who controls the distribution system will be the people in power.
Another issue with mass automation is that many people will be left without a job. “The idea of getting free food, water, health, clothing, is nice and, in reality, if we take a closer look at the current system we can see that more people are let off and replaced by machines. For example, we can see that McDonald's workers are fired and they have been replaced with machines that work on touch or by sound and they take orders, forward orders to the employees, etc."
And no doubt another 14 yrs from now you’ll still be paying that high yield interest and have paid down 1-2k from your original loan. It was designed to be predatory, why it’s legal is the question we should be asking..
Load More Replies...26 years. Was homeless for a bit and used deferments and forbearance and income based payments. All the while accruing interest. Finally got on my feet and making bigger payments. Years of on time payments and I NEVER touched the principle. I would love to pay my loan off but I cannot get beyond the interest.
When you factor in direct and I direct tax benefits and reducedpermit fees to drill, oil companies received more than $100B in taxpayer money amd have posted recorded breaking profits while doing stock but backs. They double dip -got your tax money and got you again at the pump but yeah butch at the Average Joe''s who are getting some of their own tax money back to help them with student loans
I just think collage is a scam and unless you are dedicated to being a doctor or something you don't need it because then you're going to spend thousands on collage and end up a cashier. Stop pushing people to go like it'll ruin their life they don't
To be fair, it's $10K times tens of millions of borrowers. How about we start worrying about plugging the hole instead of bailing water that's just going to come back into the ship? Tuition goes up exponentially every year, far more than it should just for inflation/staff salary increases. We need to put a stop to that, not just make the current debt disappear, AKA get taken out of the pockets of the middle class.
It is not tens of millions receiving loan forgiveness. The vast majority of people do not and will not qualify. It's not an across the board, everyone gets money knocked off, scenario. The current debts people have are primarily interest amounts, which are not even actual expenses they exist merely on paper (well, technology now, same deal) and not a single cent of that is coming out of anyone's pocket. It is simply going to be "wiped off the paper" and lenders will have to reduce the interest they are charging students by X amount. They are not receiving payments in these amounts that come out of taxpayer money. There is no money at all changing hands, because it doesn't actually exist. NO ONE is out any money, not the lender, university, student, taxpayer or government.
Load More Replies...My grandpa who went to college in the late 60s is still paying off student loans
How? A guy spoke at my husband's graduation who went to college in the late 70s. He had his tuition receipt from his senior year. It was less than $1,000 and it included his textbooks.
Load More Replies...My take is that citizens of capitalism are so hooked on consumerism that they fail to realize their power - to just stop buying anything but the essentials. Instead, they keep buying, complaining and blaming the president, the Fed, anyone but themselves.
As a consumer, I sometimes have a problem distinguishing "wants" from "needs". It sounds so obvious when it's someone else, but its more confusing than that. Is a good coat a necessity, or will layered sweatshirts that I already own all I need? I know I'm speaking from a point of privilege, but coffee, sugar, car expenses, clothes without holes, streaming devices, all feel like necessities but technically aren't, to different degrees.
Load More Replies...I'm going to get downvoted but here goes... do you 4 people think you are the only enlightened intelligent ones ?? You make it sound like everyone else is stupidly and blindly consuming. If you're so f*****g smart fix the problems.
Luckily the NY minimum was raised to 15. Not enough, but it's getting better
What I don’t like is how they raise the minimum wage but then go “oh, btw we also raised the prices of everything! Expect your lives to barely change!”
You don’t actually believe that, do you? Let me explain exactly how the world just does not work that way: “Oh, you don’t think we’re paying you enough? You’re fired. Clear your desk within half an hour and don’t be here an hour from now - there are fifty people waiting for any kind of job opening what so ever.” Few people are in a position to “demand” fúck all, and certainly not more money. It does not work like that. It’d be great if it did, but it doesn’t. Trying to blame the economic injustice on poor people is like being a fat king in the middle ages, dismissively claiming that if the starving farmers, who are feeding his own fat àss because he’ll kill them if they don’t, are dying from lack of food, they should have thought of that before they became starving farmers. If they didn’t like starvation, they should just have been born noblemen. No. It does not work like that.
Load More Replies...While pretty much everyone is feeling their wallets getting lighter this year, things probably aren’t at their worst yet. The (economic) worst, unfortunately, is still to come. CNN notes in its Business Nightcap newsletter that the US is technically not in a recession… the keyword here being technically.
Well, housing and access to signficant mental healthcare and addiction counselling. But sloped seats don't help with that either.
Given that about 20% of Americans have a mental health issue, and that number is increasing, it isn't unusual that homeless people, who are people, have them.
Load More Replies...I will advocate every time I read these for housed people removing those deterrents whenever they can especially illegally. You catching a vandalism charge will have no impact on you but could cost the homeless their entire remaining property if they attempt to address it. Many of these are installed using off the shelf or widely available security nuts, the drivers for which are easy to purchase. A small pry bar takes care of many of the others. Then if you are In a position with any say about a properties management make not installing these monstrous tools for hurting the homeless so they go away a hill you die on. Besides I am getting older and noticing how few benches there are anymore... I'm tired I want to sit. Edit spelling
this is equivalent to"if your homeless,just buy a house".the government needs to realise that if you just dont let homeless people work,or even exist in the world,it does not matter,as they cant get the money to buy a house
And if you can't afford gasoline to get to work, buy a Tesla.
Load More Replies...Access to housing to be specific. In the United States there are more empty homes than there are homeless. If I could I would buy all empty houses and let homeless people live there rent free.
This year, my city literally decriminalized peeing in public... because - hell - why bother paying for housing, portapotties, or jail when you can just let people pee in the streets? 🙄 ... and this from the very same place that also disbands homeless encampments wherever they happen to pop up... if the housed find homelessness inconvenient, just imagine how the actual homeless feel.
How about doing both? Basic things homeless people have to do in public because they don't have a house to do them in should not be criminalized.
Load More Replies...And this is the pink tax. Do you see the red “men’s” deodorant to the right? It’s half the price and quite often has more product.
Yup yup. Razors anyone? It is like if it is pink or shows in anyway to be feminine lets mark it up. Too bad men don't menstrate. We could get those products for cheap too.
Load More Replies...Jesus Christ. Even in New Zealand where the supermarket duopoly is famously extorting money from the public while people starve because they can’t afford it, the cheapest deodorant is NZ$5 with a minimum wage of NZ$21.20.
Yeah, I often did the "how many hours/days do I have to work to afford thing that I am selling" math while lurking behind the counter at my delightful retail job.
Load More Replies...The pink tax is strong in this meme. See that Old Spice for $3-something?
To be fair, that's a twin pack. It's TWO sticks of deodorant costing an hour of your life, which is still awful.
Deodorant is between $7-$8 a single stick where I live with the exception of walmart and Target. Though target prices are getting up there . I forgot to put mine on one day and stopped at a drug store to get one and it was over $8. Drove around looking for other options until I gave up and got a $7 stick but now I look at the prices wherever I go because the used to be $4.50. Absolutely bananas how expensive everything is.
Load More Replies...No, those are not real. I just found the exact ones on Wal-Mart for $3.88 for two.
Load More Replies...I know it doesn't fix the systemic problem, but I make my own deodorant and it only needs coconut oil, cornstarch and baking soda (and some drops of fragrant oil, if so desired). It works better for me than the store bought one, needs less packaging, and each time I use it I am filled with a warm, fuzzy joy at not having given Procter & Gamble or Unilever more money.
No idea what dollar tree is, but I'm guessing in a country using pounds it would not be useful.
Load More Replies...It seriously depends on where you are. In Springfield, OR I pay $3.29 for women's Dove, but coincidentally, it was only $2.69 in San Diego.
I would add safety in your home and job placement to this. I've known a lot of prisoners and I would say over 95% of them had horrible home lives, abuse, neglect, a purposeful lack of education, etc. An acquaintance of mine was a drug addict by the time she was 16 and if you saw how her parents behaved, you'd understand why. There's a huge amount of recidivism because it's sooo hard to find work when you do get out of prison. You try to turn things around but the only jobs you can get are backbreaking jobs. My brother relapsed 4 times because of this. He couldn't get a regular job because he had a felony, and could only get under the table or contractor jobs. A lot of those guys are drug addicts or ex-cons, etc. He couldn't get away from it. As he got older the physical workload became too hard and he'd end up using that as an excuse to do drugs again. I know some people say you reap what you sew but there needs to be an alternative to the lives they had when getting out of jail.
Nah, that's wrong. Clearly the problems is that they didn't have enough guns.
“Economists look to several indicators—GDP growth, employment, bond yields, wages, etc—to determine the answer,” writes Allison Morrow. “Of course, there are other, less scientific but more fun ways to gauge economic health. Famously, there's the Lipstick Index, which suggests lipstick sales surge in lean times because it's an inexpensive indulgence that makes people happy. Alan Greenspan put forward the Men's Underwear Index, demonstrating that sales of boxers and briefs plummeted from 2007 to 2009, during the Great Recession, before picking back up as the economy recovered. One other, deeply unscientific, indicator: The Powerball.”
And in the future, that alive person could potentially only be alive because it's illegal to NOT be born (US). Yet, when they are born they are left to fight a losing battle everyday 😥
It always sickens me when people rather throw food away than give to someone else. We've got fruit trees and I would take for us, I would share with friends and the remainder is for the local birds/insects.
Absolutely!! Food, shelter, healthcare, and clothing. Give everyone that and then fly your dildo's into space for kicks.
Unless you're hunting or gathering the food and preparing it yourself, someone else is doing it for you. Are they supposed to work for free? To feed you?
“The child who is rejected by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”
The second-best way, preferably used in conjunction with the first one, is to make sure guns aren´t easily accessible and affordable for every idiot.
Yes! I had a school shooting threat when I was in 7th grade. It was terrifying. Why are we letting idiots with kids in private schools make the decisions?
Load More Replies...This isn't an either/or argument, it's a both/and. We've got to work for the reality we want while being realistic about the reality we currently face. I've spent years in the social services and youth programming field, but if someone comes at me or threatens my family with a situation where de-escalation will obviously do no good I'm going to shoot, make sure my family is safe, and then call you an ambulance and try to save your life.
But you do realise that while most countries have bad guys, and bad areas to grow up in - no one else has school shootings. So I disagree it's a both/and.
Load More Replies...Looking for one of you guys in here to make sure you weren’t downvoted because people on bored panda usually seem to hate guns, this post is right, the guns aren’t the entire problem.
Load More Replies...Howdo you explain Black people getting shot by policemen on this one, please?
If the policeman grew up under these circumstances he probably wouldn’t be racist so, yeah, this kinda does explain that too.
Load More Replies...This is the positive version of the "going back in time to kill someone who grows up to be a bad guy" argument. I like it much better
You’re right! Let’s go put little Adolph in that art school he wanted to be in so bad
Load More Replies...I'm not sure I completely agree with this one. I believe some people are just born evil.
No. Put high insurance requirements on bullets. 2nd amendment does not guarantee bullets, gun powder, or primers
There is no labor shortage. Only a shortage of people willing to work too hard in bad conditions for too little appreciation, too little money and too little chance of the job and/or money getting better. In other words, there's a shortage of people willing to put up with your s**t anymore.
Correct. After 40 years of artificially reduced labour prices, its hard to hear about a shortage
Or you could go to one of those cities that only prosecute theft if it's over $1000, so you could walk out the door with those potato chips and pay nothing.
According to CNN, the Powerball lottery jackpot is expected to grow to a jaw-dropping $1.9 billion ahead of the drawing. It is the largest lottery prize ever in the history of the United States. The chances of winning this huge sum (before taxes, of course) is around 1 in 292 million. “You're more likely to be eaten by a shark. Or be struck by lightning twice,” Morrow writes.
At the time of publishing, the Powerball jackpot grew to $2.04 billion, and the winning ticket was drawn in California. CNBC notes that the winner can hope to get roughly a quarter of that money after all the bureaucracy.
Afford it and also afford to not go to work until well.
Load More Replies...Honestly, the problem I have with this even more than not affording it is that when I'm sick, the last thing I'm going to do is go out. If I had the energy to get dressed and go sit in a doctor's office for an hour and drive...I could probably work. Even if I have a doctor, I'm staying home. Unless I need to go to a hospital or something, then I'm not going to a doctor. I've got the flu- I'm an adult and I know what that is. I'm going to be sick for 3 days with shivers and cold sweats and I'm going to be exhausted and puking etc. I don't need a doctor to diagnose that. But I AM going to stay home.
OMG they do this in schools too. In my district growing up, after five days you have to have a doctor's note, court note etc. That's five days in an entire semester, not in a row or week etc. Imagine having the flu, a kidney infection, a raging fever, and delirium, but you have to go to school because your mom can't afford to take you to the doctor even though you have insurance.
Yes! I get horrible migraines, so I’m usually missing about 8-9 days in a semester.
Load More Replies...In the '80s there were jobs where we had to come to work with a doctor's note or not come back at all. At least things are changing, but not nearly quickly enough.
Not to mention, when you are sick all you really want is to stay home and rest.
Yeah, so add driving around feverish or catching a ride with someone you could share your illness with, so if you're going to be out of bed and driving around making other people sick you might as well get paid for it instead of shelling out all that money to pay for a doctor's note.
Load More Replies...Uk here, only need a dr note if you are signed off work for some reason.
Not the point Ted. The point is that in the US you have to pay for the doctor's note so if you don't have the spare cash, you have to work sick or risk getting the sack.
Load More Replies...“Since you working class people are all lazy and compulsive liars, of course we'll assume you’re trying to cheat your way out of work until proven otherwise.” Yeah. It’s pretty dang classist.
In my country, with an universal healthcare, we are requiring doctor's notes for absence due to illness too.
Yes but the issue is not the need for the note but the fact that most people can't afford to go to the doctor to get one
Load More Replies...So fortunate living in the UK that we don't have to pay for sick notes
The one good thing that came out of COVID is the re-evaluation of the 9-5 working week.
I had a daughter. Then I lost her when she started school. Always too busy to do anything together, always too tired. Then she grew up and moved away. She has a PhD in music. I am a musician too. We played together maybe 4 times in 30+ years. This will be my biggest regret on my deathbed.
Part of this is our own faults, though. Someone needs to build the thing to float on the ocean. And someone needs to pick the fruit and grow the fruit. And we want to still be able to have bathrooms and hot showers. And we need freezers and air conditioning. And it goes on and on. We've been trained to want a more materialistic life, sure, and we could maybe fix a part of that but I don't think we're ever going to want to go back to not having public utilities, electricity, medicine... that means people have to work. And they aren't going to do it for free. We need a system that is going to work for the people and not for politicians.
It isn’t about not working. It’s about not having the choice, it’s about not having the chance to enjoy the fruits of one’s labor. Ask anyone with a hobby or a craftsperson, yes the work can be hard, and yes there is always work, but when you finish you can take a step back and enjoy what you’ve created. Sure, there are people who want nothing more than sitting around playing games or napping or whatever, that’a fine. But there are also people who would love the chance to build a boat or barge for people to enjoy. There are people who would love to grow fruit and vegetables and keep livestock and raise pets and children and paint or design things or go into space. We humans generally do not want to be idle. We have dreams and want adventures and love real novelty. Read about Plato’s cave. We want out of the cave, even if we don’t realize we’re in chains.
Load More Replies...If you want to talk about the 5 day work week, you have to also talk about the workers who are working much longer hours. Not in a “no one should get to work less than 40 hours a week” way but in an “EVERYONE should get to work less than 40 hours a week” way.
The school thing! I’m probs jsut biased cuz I’m still in it and it’s s**t, but we go to school for seven hours five days a week. That’s thirty five hours a week at school. Then each teacher gives us homework, and depending on the class can take from 30-120 min . So I’m doing school work and being at school for 43.3 hours, and I have electives that require little to no homework, so let’s round to 45 for people who have harder electives. So that’s 16,425 hours a year spent at school when (how the systems designed) it should be closer to 12,800. But this is all to prepare us to work 73,000 hours a year (working 40 hours a day for five days, not counting overtime paid or more likely unpaid) Edit: I forgot about jobs. Most highschool students work partime wich ads even more to the “school” day
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Load More Replies...If only greed could be cured like the disease it is.
Load More Replies...Me a survivor of communism invites you to live on it for one month you'll be begging to live in capitalism in a heartbeat
By Edward O. Wilson, on communism: "Good Ideolology; wrong species."
Capitalism is necessary to a VERY certain extent (a lot of N. Korean citizens can't survive without it, but they have to practice it on the down low), however, it places like the US, it is way, WAY, WAYYYY out of control. This country is the perfect example of capitalism being unregulated and rampant to the point where we have what I like to call radical capitalism. The only people that are doing well are the 1% because of gross inflation and unaccountability. The middle class is virtually gone now. Even people making 6 figures a year are struggling in certain areas. This is not normal, but it keeps getting normalized and no one that can do anything about it gives one single rat's a*s.
If you don’t balance a system it will always fall. We let the greedy become fatter while we became poorer.
Socialism. It works. If we, the people, can stop the profiteers from profiting on the socialistic system, turning it capitalistic again. If only the great mass of people knew what power they possess, when they WORK TOGETHER, FOR EACHOTHER!!
The answer is so simple: socially regulated capitalism. But the capitalists are very eager to block this and many countries managed to put in roadblocks for common people so only the rich can get into politics. And funnily that's the same communist countries do. The reason why both constructs fail is the same: people who hunger for power and personal greed.
Word again. I believe we need to rethink economical structure entirely, really.
Load More Replies...Right. Jus try communism if you don't like capitalism for few month. I offer ou position in China. And come back with this remark ... Sorry, Capitalism is not ideal, but comunism is even worst
Either way, it's humans that make it so bad. On paper (as stated in the post) both may be okay systems, but as soon as you add human greed to the equation, they both suck. The fact that communism may be awful doesn't magically make the capitalism we are living with okay. It's on a downward spiral and has been since at least the 80s and is mainly built on the exploitation of weaker, poorer people. I don't understand why so many people act like it has to be either capitalism or communism, is if there were no other system in this universe that could possibly work.
Load More Replies...But why all of this talk about the Powerball? Well, you see, during the last recession, US state lotteries noted that there were huge declines in ticket sales, as people were pinching pennies and cutting out all unnecessary expenses.
In other words, the idea is that people still being able to spend a couple of bucks to buy a lottery ticket may be seen as a soft indicator that things haven’t gotten truly awful yet, savings-wise. It’s when people stop buying tickets altogether that you can be pretty certain—things are around their worst.
I think the student loan people and the housing loan people got together and agreed: "Let's try not to let any young people own any land!"
This is because of government student loans, since it's with the government we're forced to calculate it in your debt to income ratio even if it's deferred
Load More Replies...Same with credit cards. Are you people f*****g stupid? No, they want you to sink into debt early and be trapped forever.
Let's think for a second about our options with credit cards...on one hand we can buy everything we want with it and live happy until we can't afford to pay it off and soon become unhappy and depressed or on the other hand we keep track of our finances and don't spend more than we will be able to afford to pay off
Load More Replies...Exactly. And not just that. I was always in the top of my class growing up, and my parents did give me a decent amount of financial education. I took out student loans without any real context of what they would cost during repayment. What my monthly payment would be to repay, what my budget would look like given the average salary of someone with my intended degree that is actually realistic. I didn't actually understand what I was signing up for since I had no real context.
So are you saying that college students aren't mature enough to make decisions like taking out large loans?
Load More Replies...IF YOU POST AN ENTRY LEVEL JOB THEN YOU CANT REQUIRE ANY EXPERIENCE! IF YOU REQUIRE EXPERIENCE THEN YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN ENTRY-LEVEL PAY! I DONT KNOW WHEN WE GOT AWAY FROM THIS. BUT YOU CANT REQUIRE 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE FOR 35K AND COMPLAIN "NO ONE WANTS TO WORK. "
Load More Replies...This is so true. It really feels like we are living in Bizzaro-world; how can so many, subjectively insane practices, be seen as normal and worth fighting to keep.
I love my job as a Rec Assistant, and it's fairly calm. But I needed a year and a half of college plus work experience to get this job that pays slightly above minimum wage. And the thing is, I have to hold on to this job all throughout college so that by the time I graduate I can at least have a few years of work experience plus college, otherwise I don't know what job I could get where I could make enough money to live
There was a study done several years ago by some students. They looked at court rulings and other data from the last century I believe and determined that the US is in fact an oligarchy. I don’t remember all the details.
It was study done at Princeton University in 2014: "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" They concluded that, "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
Load More Replies...Capitalism inherently evolves into corporatism. It's a fact of the system.
Load More Replies...They have managed to convince people that they too can be feudal lords one day, so they always vote against their own interest.
Nobody knows the difference between "breath" and "breathe" these days. You take a breath while you breathe.
so true. It's like whoa and woah. Pleeeeease learn to spell!
Load More Replies..."Hey bro give me one sec....hello Linda, yes I know it's late but my insurance policy is active right? Wonderful....bye...alright, go ahead".
Except for the fact that you could end up with a $10,000 doctor bill...
HAhahahhaaa this is so true. It's so sad that so many of us wish we could get into minor car accidents or have something horrible happen just so we have an excuse to not go into work the next day.
There's still a pervasive delusion that one can "pull up their bootstraps", work hard, and realize the "American Dream". A bunch of hogwash propaganda that has no bearing on today's economic climate. Minimum wage has not been adjusted for inflation in the US since the 1960's, meanwhile corporate CEOs are enjoying massive bonuses. The wealth divide is horrendous, and is killing the middle class, not to mention those poor souls who fall even below that. At this point, the US needs a legitimate miracle.
Minimum wage should be about 33% of the cost of renting a 1 bedroom apartment.
At this point, I'd take a studio apartment! Don't get me wrong. I recognize that I am indeed blessed. I'm better off than most
I have the same problem with: can we put a bar on a plane? Sure. Can we add suites with doors? Yep. Can we offer a slightly larger toilet and a widened aisle area with an on board wheelchair so diagnosed fliers can pee too? ARE YOU MAD?!
And a basic food dispensary were everyone could go and get at least one basic meal a day as well as an allowance of one set of clothes a year. Just to put this in perspective: that's what peons in medieval times were given by their masters! They had to provide that even for the lowest stable boy! That's what's provided for every prisoner in every prison: three meals a day, basic healthcare and a room to sleep in. Criminals get this, no one disputes this, but normal, hardworking people don't.
The same reason "gun" was censored multiple times in one I read yesterday. Not sure what that reason IS, but it seems to be the nascent normal.
Load More Replies...AIDS research wasn't funded by the US gov't until ACTUP started doing die-ins and shutting down public NYC streets, and AIDS quilts started being made and unfurled on DC property.
The right to sexuality wasn't guaranteed until hundreds of queer people threw bricks at police officers attempting to arrest people at a gay bar.
I have said this to so many conservatives who do not understand that nothing changes without dramatic action by the oppressed.
I understand this, but attacking small businesses and individuals who have done nothing wrong is and should be a crime. If I was walking down the street and someone hit me with a bat and I've done nothing to them, that person shouldn't get a lighter sentence because they feel 'threatened' by me because I'm a certain color or gender. I understand a sit-in is not necessarily going to solve a problem, but at the very least, go after the corporations/corporate buildings who are causing the problems. Destroying a small business owner's store window isn't going to solve anything and, I promise you, the people you should really be directing that anger at are loving it.
Certainly bats to the head or bombings are different than blockades and should be punished as the battery or attempted murder they are. I'm not aware of anyone getting any leniency for such crimes because their motive was protest. Same for property crimes, if they are caught.
Load More Replies...And then look at sweden: Swedish women: hey dear king, we'd like to vote and own land Swedish King: oh, ok. The only people who fought that were hyper privileged men who feared women could be better! But Sweden had a leader who knew better and when the leader of the committee of the Nobel prize for literature was unwilling to put the price in the hands of the first women, their political Leader King Gustav V did so.
I actually disagree... in that this WAS civil... civil disobedience. And successful too!
The wheelchair blockade of Congress happened on 12 March 1990 and the ADA was passed on 26 July 1990, so apparently historians UNIVERSALLY agree that without the blockade legislators would...have gone back in time years or decades to pass the Act?
Load More Replies...I'm on the fence with this. I feel like I'm absolutely quiet quitting because for a lot of people like me, it's not about the money. I don't care how much money I was offered- it would not be worth dealing with this. It's PEOPLE. Customers have gone insane. There's this Amazon.com-style of expectation, an 'I want it right now!!!' mentality, and if they don't get it they throw a tantrum like little kids in a grocery store not getting candy. They expect everything to be fast food. You can't talk to people. They cut you off, they treat you like dirt and on top of that they blame you for their own mistakes. There's a part of this that has always been the case but it's never been as bad as it is now. Add to that the hours are too long. I could maybe deal with it if I wasn't working 9-11 hours every day. A part of me is just checked out at this point. I'm grateful to have a job but I've gotten to the point of hating having no empathy left for anyone, and I'm not the only one.
Honest question here so please don’t down vote me. What are all these people who quit their jobs living off of? Because pre-retirement I could not have been without a paycheque for more than two months or I would have been out on the street.
It's the crab bucket...the idea that "I'm miserable so you should be miserable too." Meanwhile, pay no attention to the oligarchy behind the curtain.
This would be fun, but as a neurodivergent person interviews are absolut hell so if I got through ONE and got the job I wouldn’t want to leave for a long time. That’s the extent I will avoid interviews.
Working at Arby's sucks. You should get paid more than a CEO for putting up with that s**t
I am mad that my company made our minimum wage $15 but only because last year I was worth $10 more than minimum wage and this year I'm only worth $3 more than minimum and that don't add up. But I've also worked for minimum wage before and I'm not mad that people are getting more. They deserve it. I just need more too.
I worked at an arbys in Va. Made $10/hr in 2021 and $11/hr in 2022. This post is b.s
That's what they're saying, it benefits people CURRENTLY making $15/hr if Arby's DID pay $15/hour
Load More Replies...So gross. When I was a server in Canada in 2016, liquor minimum wage (less than regular minimum wage here) was $10.50/hr or something and that’s even unfair, we were all pissed that we were getting paid less than non-liquor-serving restaurant servers (who were at $14-something at the time I think - feel free to correct me but it was definitely a few dollars more). When I hear American servers are only getting $2.13 regardless I’m like “wait how is that even legal?!” Especially when the USD is higher than CAD - like what the h-e-double-hockey-sticks??
Load More Replies...So the non-tippers are now to blame for the staff's low wages? How interesting.
No, but non-tipping in tipping countries would certainly tend to drive servers to other jobs if there are too many of the non-tippers since that's how the servers have to make their living.
Load More Replies...Oh, I’m thoroughly enjoying the implication that the great resignation will kill the tipping system and get it replaced with actual wages.
it should be the cheap employers ... employers, businesses do not want to pay their staff more than the minimum
I just can't with America capitalism anymore. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tipping-jobs-history-slave-wage-cbsn-originals-documentary/
In CA all wait staff makes at least minimum wage. Tips are in top of that.
They meant another job in addition to being a waiter, not instead of being a waiter.
Worked at chili's once long ago. "You are in charge of how much money you make here." Fu
Absolutely! If this keeps up, it’s everyone’s problem.
Load More Replies...I find it hard to take everything in to account when comparing past financial situations with present ones. A more simple (for me at least) illustration is that my parents (born 40's) were able to save up for thier first house by living on almost nothing for 3 years with only my father's below average income for one job. My husband and I took about 15 years with two graduate level incomes and several part time jobs. Couples only a few years younger than us also start out with student debt and higher rents - so even if they work more hours than we did at higher level jobs, it's hard to imagine saving up a deposit in under... Erm... Ever
In my experience, a mortgage is always cheaper than rent. But home ownership only goes to those with a good credit history and a down payment.
Be kind to people on the way up - you'll meet them again on your way down.
“Be careful whose toes you step on on your way to the top, because they might be connected to the a*s you'll be kissing as you fall down”
Load More Replies...Always be kind to everyone, but SPECIALLY to: people that clean your trash, make your food, heal your injuries.
And people who answer your calls to help you with issues. The "typing bullsh*t all day" can be essential for YOU if it makes the difference between you being able to afford to buy a used car after yours was totalled, and you just not having a car anymore. If you're an a**hole to people, don't expect them to jump through hoops for you!
Load More Replies...i'll make my own f*****g burger so that when the burger people go on strike, the only people hurt are the fat cats.
i don't even like burgers but i will start a ground beef shop if it helps fast-food workers and other chronically overworked, underpaid people overthrow capitalism.
Load More Replies...Exactly garbage collectors clean up everywhere but are not looked upon with respect but without them everywhere would soon be overrun with dirt, rats and stink!
I have a hard time understanding this classist approach to living. Do you believe you'd manage without the guy who picks up your trash every week? How about the lineman ensuring you have electricity? The plumber who snakes your septic's main line? The mechanic who changes your car's oil? It's counterproductive, and therefore silly, to put a monetary value on people. We all contribute to society in our own way.
Enough is enough when people band together and make the Republicans pay for their crimes. At least in America.
If the government has to regulate a business, then that business should be government owned. Watch insurance companies back pedal. They don't need a 42% increase.
If the world is destroyed what use are their profits going to be? Being rich never stopped anyone from dying.
…. I don‘t know. There are some countries who at least try. Some are setting good examples with recycling and renewable energy…. It IS possible.
Im A Member Of A Marginalized Community And The Thought Of This Really Disturbs Me
Load More Replies...Why are we paying over and over to live on the same piece of land anyway?
Because you either buy it outright (usually with a mortgage) or you rent it. The principle is sound, the prices are not necessarily realistic. You cannot expect to pay one rental instalment and then have the use of the property for free.
Load More Replies...We moved to Springfield, OR from San Diego, CA because our landlord sold our condo. (He bought it for $185k 9 years ago & sold it 5 months ago for $585k) Getting to Oregon and guess what? It was actually easier to buy a condo here than find something to rent in this area. Our mortgage is actually lower than most 2 bedroom apartments.
I can sleep at night with no qualms, because I have rented my unit at half price to a person on a disability pension. I still get quite enough to pay all the expenses *and* have something left over for me, on which I pay tax. (I am no goody two shoes; I do this because I can *afford* to do so!) Perhaps if more people did this we could reduce the number of homeless people.
I live at home (i know this isn't an option for everyone) because I refuse to pay so much in rent only to move out and own nothing.
I have been trying to explain this to my family and friends for the last 5 years. No one wants to be around me anymore because I am permanently stressed and wound too tight. Constantly in fight or flight mode, always on the defensive. It’s a miserable way to live.
I'm exactly the same way, doubly so now that I've crossed 50 and there's no hope for the future. Let's be online friends. I'll listen to whatever you throw at me.
Load More Replies...My friend is often worried about how he can get the money to afford to go to work so he can not get fired and therefore get further money to pay off debts and afford to get to work again. His job isn't paying him enough to have his job. I was able to put him one week ahead for a bit, but what a broken system
Actually $58,000 in 1976 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $303,773.22 today, an increase of $245,773.22 over 46 years.
you can still file bankruptcy, you canNOT include your student loans as part of it
Sharing, to them, is giving them your money, time, and life for very little in return.
Literally. Sharing back then meant let other kids take all my lunch and go hungry. And if I didn't I was a bad person for not sharing.
Load More Replies...Yeah— my family escaped Communism— it’s not all unicorns and rainbows. Sorry to burst your bubble.
No, no, no. Socialism is when you share my stuff for me. Sharing is when I share my own stuff. Huge difference.
So no government then? Everyone does their own thing? I know democracy is annoying since no one gets every decision made the way they would do it, and of course there is inefficiency and complications and graft and all the rest of the messiness that comes with government, but don't you think no government would be a far bigger mess? I think many people who find the idea appealing would not it enjoy very much in practice, even if they could decide where the stuff they wanted to share was going to go.
Load More Replies...Superheroes are always chasing bank robbers. But the banks are filthy rich, and they'd recover the loss from their Insurers anyway. Why not go after cyber criminals who rob innocent people of their pensions?
Or better yet, go to the dark side and rob the banks and give the money to the poor people. (this is a joke)
Load More Replies...Well, billionaires don't know the price of a gallon of milk, let alone the basic cost of living, even in a city as s***ty as Gotham; obviously someone only robs a bank or henchmans for a psychopath in clown makeup because they want to and not out of desperation, right?
I just get annoyed at the lack of due process. Superheroes*think* they are fighting the bad guys, but if you're showing up and punching people, you're the bad guys
Why do the very wealthiest people get their loans forgiven, even when those loans are in the sum of millions of dollars? And, they get to continue to take out more loans. I have two close friends who lost their homes to foreclosure after many, many years of paying their mortgage. No one gave them a break.
As Andy Capp said: if you owe a thousand you're a failure. If you owe a hundred thousand you're an entrepeneur. If you owe a million you're a bank. And if you owe a billion you're a government.
Load More Replies...It's so funny because most of the communist "bogeyman" scare tactics are actually done by the capitalists and considered normal.
They are not pro life just because their marketing experts call them that. They are anti-abortion, pro power over women, because mother and child can drop dead -and all too often do- before or once the baby is born. Nobody is pro abortion, but pro choice, pro women's choice. If you don't want an abortion don't have one, it's that simple.
I came very close to losing my life when I gave birth to my first child. Actually flatlined on the operating table. That was a child I wanted and was excited for. Can you imagine basically being murdered because some old white guy said you have to carry your rapist’s fetus?
And they use abortion as a wedge issue to keep the gullible riled up and keep voting for republican candidates.
This phrase "quiet quiting" is so not intuitive. Everybody needs an explanation. For first time I heard it I tought that means when worker ghost his job, just to not show up, or leave without telling anyone. No quiet quiting is when you work as much as you agreed by concract. If you dont allow them to exploit you, you are quiet quiter, not a honest worker. What the...
While the insurance companies refuse to pay for the health care that your health care professionals say you need.
If you'll allow me a bit of a story...I was hurt very bad my last year in college. My university required me to be on their health insurance. I had to come off my parents insurance- which would have covered the entirety of the catastrophic injuries I had. The insurance I was FORCED to have only covered 20k of it. I went through bankruptcy because I was trying to pay off over 550k in bills. I did everything I was supposed to do- I worked full time, I had savings... I was the only 21 year old with 15K in the bank that I knew and no college bills. On top of that, because of another issue, I ended up having to get CT scans for 3 years to check for blood clots. The following year I had health insurance through my job. Because I got a new insurance carrier, it was considered a pre-existing condition and I had to pay out of pocket. It's 3K for a CT scan here. I can't talk about my hatred for the health system in this country.
Might as well call it prostitution. Or coercion/bribery, because "if you don't do this: bye, but play our game and you might get rewarded". (btw technically you're only renting out your body, so technically at least it's not slavery)
And if you aren't born into a mind and body that fits the sales request then you have no way to make a profit and is made to feel forever like a burden to those around you.
The friends cast lives in gorgeous rooftop apartment with walls of slanted windows for the rain to banter on. And they are barely making ends meet lol
Big difference between a high-rise apartment in NYC and a single family home in a small town in the mid-west. Of course, we can't afford the mid-west home anymore either.
Load More Replies...My grandfather there. He couldn't read or write, had an amazing job.
On "Married With Children", Al Bundy owned a home and supported his wife, two kids and a dog on a show salesman's salary.
... with a female Boss. Actually, Jefferson makes me think more than Al ... he seems to be well enough off, friends with Fidel Castro, and doesn't seem like somebody who ever done a single minute of useful work, nor able to if he wanted ... and still, the capitalist, bank-employed, rich chick from across the street does love him, although he always ever just costs, costs, costs, as he coasts, coasts, coasts ...
Load More Replies...As much as I hate Limp Bizkit I still hope this person's first submitted project was a design for that tattoo
Hey Kids! Can you say, "Revolution"? Rev... O... Loo... shun! That's great! Now try saying "guillotine"?
I have doubts about this statement. We just retired. Moved to a less expensive city and bought a 1951 built house that need a lot of repairs. Due to the cutback in world production from COVID we have been waiting months for the materials needed to fix our house. Slowdown in the world's production of everything can still have negative impact on the human condition.
Preach! Overconsumption sickens me. Sure, but what you want not need, get an Xbox or extra pairs of sneakers etc. whatever it is, if you can afford it and you want it. Buy it. But that’s assuming it’s not going to be dropped in 3 days, never to be used again. If you’re going to get your happiness worth out of something that’s great. But the whole over consumption driven by marketing and manipulation is just awful. Don’t get me started on Xmas. The forced presents and then no one looks at them again after a week. Money down the drain. Nope. Not doing it. (Sure some things remain forever hits but 80% of the gifts under the tree rarely see the light of day ahain)
An eviction fee that is to be paid, somewhere in the halfyear rent region, unless there are reasons that make it inacceptable not to evict. But, I know ... the person deciding if the criteria are met, will be some buddy of the local landlords' association's head or something, and grant it always anyway...
Because housing isn’t free or cheap, I never looked at it this way. Said the way it is, this resonates. Also the comment to replace housing with health care made instant sense. Bc I know of countries with free healthcare so that concept didn’t feel foreign to me. Which says a lot. Free housing or affordable housing SHOULD NOT FEEL FOREIGN either. But it does sound strange to say due to traditions. Sad.
Right?! Especially considering we're not saying everyone should have a 4 bedroom house. We can't help our fellow countrymen by giving them a studio apartment to get back on their feet?? Half or the US federal budget goes to the military, and the super wealthy are severely undertaxed; we can't redistribute the food and squish in extra place settings?? Sorry, couldn't resist.
Load More Replies...Hell's demons would stare at corporate America for a minute, then fall to their knees and cry "Teach me, master!"
Hell is empty and all the devils are in corporate America.
Load More Replies...What is the point of interest anyway? Just pay back what we took, for Jesus' sake!
False equivalency. Imagine being a human during the paleolithic age and, on average, living to the age of 18.
I thought the same thing. The grass isn’t always greener. The challenges are different. Quality over Quantity is the point.
Load More Replies...I'd take my chances with sabre toothed tigers, personally. At least they're not full of bad intentions; they don't go out of their way to hurt others for the sake of greed.
If you look, you'll see people on the right trying to get the attention of the man on the left to let him know he's going the wrong way. And he isn't paying attention or listening, so I actually think this perfectly sums up the US.
Or he could be so far behind them he has no chance of ever catching them up.
Load More Replies...The company I worked for was one of them. Small company, lied about the number of employees. Got just shy of a million in PPP loans (public records). Then didn't give employees raises or a bonus because COVID "hit them so hard". It was the type of company that was not significantly impacted by COVID as far as profits went.
Where is this?!? With the price of EVERYTHING here, it may be more fiscally responsible to move.
Disagree. I have a few rental properties (sorry) and it is ridiculously profitable. Sometimes I defend owners/landlords on BP, but not in this case. You can deduct all costs/improvements/repairs and even depreciate the entire value of the property, from the carpeting to the roof. The US government, in the form of tax relief, basically pays most of what needs to be replaced over a long enough timespan. This is all geographically and property dependent, but even a huge expense like a new roof will be paid back in rent within 6-18 months or so. If it does not work out for a landlord, they did it wrong and/or have poor planning and management skills. Even with under-market rent all expenses (taxes/insurance/etc) are paid and then some.
Load More Replies...Then: We've hunted and gathered this place barren, now it's time to move. Then: Now we've settled with farms and herds. When do we relax? Nope, if you are not working you better be praying that you have enough to last you until you can work again. Now we can call our time our own and not the master's or the priest's.
Ha! I read this in Professor Farnsworth's voice, too.
Load More Replies...I just did. It seems like a very accurate phrase to describe ...well, reality, I suppose.
Load More Replies...Getting on disability is the best thing that ever happened to me mentally and emotionally. Sucks being trapped in a decaying body but honestly it's a small price to pay for being out of the rat race.
Interesting how few of these we're seeing talking about how awful home ownership is...
Yeah it totally sucks to have a place to live AND an appreciating asset. Don't know what I was thinking.
Load More Replies..."Soft life" makes it sound like the grind, stress and anxiety should be commonplace and normal. A 'soft life' is just what everyone's life SHOULD be.
Well, many of those who are paid 9 to 5 are expected to work 9 to 7 (without compensation in the US, apparently), while many of the rest get paid minimum wage in several jobs and are expected to "be flexible", aka jump whenever their employers generously deign to command them to. This seems to be worse in the US, but it seems to be happening more and more in Europe, too. Somehow the wages handed out have gained more value than the time and expertise that they pay for (at least for the "bottom 80 % - CEO level employment switches that ratio). That is not healthy, not for the 80 %, not for society, and, on the long run, not even for the top 5 %. And don't tell me the money pays for the amount of responsibilities they shoulder, because responsibilities would include solidarity to their employees, caring about their workers, and to own up (and pay) when you messed up.
The boom and bust mechanism built into unchecked capitalism does this for the filthy rich on a regular basis.
The American dream is only a nightmare. Wish I had been born decades earlier. My parents and grandparents had a better work-life balance many years ago. All without cellphones and computers, imagine that!
Decades earlier, there were barely any rights for the disabled and people of color. Go back a few more decades and you're looking at women not even being able to vote and Asians not being able to enter the country. Not to mention the horrors the US inflicted on Native Americans. The "glory age" is a lie. Poverty always existed- in fact, the system was designed to facilitate it, right down to the age of chattel slavery and indentured servitude.
Load More Replies...As long as we Americans continue to believe the lies told by the rich & powerful, we are lost. Why should they share their riches & amenities with us if they don't have to. We slave away for scraps & they laugh because they know it's only this way because we choose to let it continue.
Because if you rise up like your great grandparents did, you aren't working for workers rights and fair wages - you're a communist. Amazing how the rich have twisted the narrative to suit themselves very well.
Load More Replies...The American dream is only a nightmare. Wish I had been born decades earlier. My parents and grandparents had a better work-life balance many years ago. All without cellphones and computers, imagine that!
Decades earlier, there were barely any rights for the disabled and people of color. Go back a few more decades and you're looking at women not even being able to vote and Asians not being able to enter the country. Not to mention the horrors the US inflicted on Native Americans. The "glory age" is a lie. Poverty always existed- in fact, the system was designed to facilitate it, right down to the age of chattel slavery and indentured servitude.
Load More Replies...As long as we Americans continue to believe the lies told by the rich & powerful, we are lost. Why should they share their riches & amenities with us if they don't have to. We slave away for scraps & they laugh because they know it's only this way because we choose to let it continue.
Because if you rise up like your great grandparents did, you aren't working for workers rights and fair wages - you're a communist. Amazing how the rich have twisted the narrative to suit themselves very well.
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