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Your first day at work is usually the most stressful one. You work hard to show your best side, you try to make friends during lunch, you do everything to leave a good impression.

And usually, we are so preoccupied with our own performance when starting a new job, we may actually not realize that the workplace is not doing a good job either. In fact, people in these threads (this and this) say that the first impression, not just of you, but of any workplace you enter, is the most important one.

So you have to stay alert and make sure you don’t spot any of these screaming red flags, either during the interview or during your first day at work, that show you that you gotta run, not walk out of there.

#1

People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Constantly having people leave. Constantly hiring people. No real training structure for new hires.

anon , fauxels Report

Headless Roach
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The 'revolving door' type, yes

The shoebill
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So when are you coming to the party? I already replied in the other post.

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DennyS (denzoren)
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

High employee turnover is always a red flag.

Uncanny
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hubby got an IT job once at a recruitment agency. Was told start time was 9am, but he was expected to start at 8.30am. Also, Friday after work drinks in the office - compulsory. Also, no outside internet access. Only internal. First time in his life he quit a job after one week. He called it ‘The Well of The Wailing Souls’. Even now, when we’re driving thru the city if we pass the building we dip our head in respect for the lost souls inside.

Mason Kronol
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was hired as an office manager to a company with no training manuals. The woman I replaced purposely trained me incorrectly because she was sure she was going to be fired. I made a manual for whoever would be my replacement when I found a better job 6 months later. They never hired a replacement, fired my supervisor and closed the location down within a year. Never work for people who don't want you to succeed. I was a pub manager. A young lady my one supervisor didn't want me to hire because she wasn't pretty enough went on to manage another store and I was so proud. Another one left after graduating college and got a job at big bank headquarters. She sent me a thank you note that I still have. Always pass on knowledge.

Seabeast
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The grocery store down the road has a "now hiring" ad taped to the front door almost every week. I'm guessing it's not a great place to work.

Richard Pennington
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

UK, now retired (ex IT). At one of my previous employers, I pointed out during a staff meeting that every team member hired since I was hired (a few years previously...) had since left. At this point my line manager chimed in to point out that that was quite a few people.

BluEyedSeoulite
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One place have training 6 months into my contract. We had a quiz over the class materials, all of which the newbie teachers had never even seen. "Just do your best. What is the 3rd level book called?" ffs

FABULOUS1
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At my job they do not start to hire people for our busiest period of the season until we are already extremely busy. They take experienced people from their work duties to train new hires, which makes it even busier for everyone else.

Larry XK
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's exactly like the last plac eI worked at

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To find out more about what red flags you should watch out for when entering a new workplace, Bored Panda reached out to Gleb Tsipursky, the CEO of the boutique future-of-work consultancy Disaster Avoidance Experts. Gleb has been consulting Fortune 500 companies for 20 years and is the author of 7 books, including the global best-seller “Never Go With Your Gut: How Pioneering Leaders Make the Best Decisions and Avoid Business Disasters.”

“Some potential signs of trouble to look out for when joining a new company,” Gleb explained, “include a lack of transparency from leadership, high turnover rates, and a lack of clear communication and expectations.”

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    #2

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If you have to pay any amount of money in order to work for them it is a scam and stay away.

    owen00600 , energepic.com Report

    Mason Kronol
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went to an interview in 2008 and they were basically a pay us for products to sell going door to door. I was unemployed due to the car dealerships going out of business but did my due diligence to find a job to keep my unemployment. I did not feel it was fair that I was duped into spending my afternoon for a "job" I had to pay for.

    WJW _
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not always. Depends on what they want you to pay for, such as union dues which can be totally worth it.

    Zephyr343
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If PPE (personal protection equipment, like hard hats, steel toe boots) are required for your job, the company must pay that because it is a condition to do your job. They may reimburse only up to a certain amount, so it is your responsibility to pay for the overages, if necessary (like certain design or style)

    Zelda Fitzgerald
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just sat through the longest seminar just to learn you had to pay 70 bucks a month to work for them 😑

    Zachary Gillette
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every single restaurant in the US will make you buy non-slip shoes, so this isn't entirely true. They usually offer to take it out of a number of paychecks.

    ThatSunniChick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would say the (albeit, rare) exception here is in the sales world. I spent a decade working as an independent rep for a company, making phenomenal money. But the beginning was rough as you were expected to foot your own startup funds to get a pipeline going. The fee for the samples we used was taken in very small increments (think $5ish) per check until it was met, but you did get unlimited replacements thereafter. The saying "gotta spend $ to make $" isn't always hogwash. But usually lol

    South Monk
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol in some places, there are syndicates or local mobsters who do this rofl. But you might get the job, if not they make trouble for the owner or factory.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How long did it take you to foggier that out ?

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    #3

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" "We work hard and play hard" translation: You'll have no work-life balance but we also all drink too much.

    Gerreth_Gobulcoque , fauxels Report

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just an incomplete sentence. The full version is "We work hard and play hardly at all."

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes it means "We work late, then go to the nearest bar until it closes and expect you to be there as well".

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Translation: We work a lot and never play.

    OmBoyGanesh
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Translation: free cocaine for your 90 hour work week!

    Icecream Sarang
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had a boss who literally told me Salaried = Slave Labor. Needless to say, when I wouldn’t get on a daily pre-workday conference call during my 50mile morning commute, the relationship soured very quickly.

    BluEyedSeoulite
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've coached some job seekers before and whenever they say they work hard and play hard, I just hear that you are going to be hungover a lot. Don't.

    Mohsie Supposie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Play hard... to get! So hard, that they can never get you!

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    #4

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" They’re not prepared for you on your first day.

    nikkitgirl , Mizuno K Report

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the "who are you?" welcome

    Howl's sleeping castle
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happened to me. The HR was missing and not picking up our calls so we decided to go to the department directly. The manager was clueless and told us that he isn't even aware that people are being hired for his department. We decided to wait for the HR to show up. (The manager didn't even bother to contact anyone). After 3 hours of waiting I just noped out of the place and never went back.

    Lori Jabi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ohh yes this! I got a job two years ago in a very big worldwide Swiss company for lavatory and plumbing installations. I was hired as a supply chain manager and everybody congratulate me and told me wow that's quite a thing to get a job at this company. When I arrived at the first day, there was nothing. Just a tab, a very old chair and a screen. No laptop, no pen or anything. (you don't bring your own stuff in Switzerland, the company has to provide everything you need for your tasks) Not even a lamp, it was a dark corner. It took them three days to get me a laptop, I was not able to do anything for this time because a laptop was my mandatory working tool. I had to ask for everything. And they had no clue how to show me my work, the system I was working with or anything. I instantly started to look for another job and left after two month.

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of my employers have said that they weren't prepared for me. Mmm.

    CJ Gallagher
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worked for 3 intl pretty big, well known companies over the last 10 years in different fields. Every single one of them has been unprepared for new starters. Why? Because HR at any multinational is absolutely ridiculously inept. I’ve been with my current for the past 3 years and I’ve never been treated better, HR just sucks a*s. Not always a red flag.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SO unprofessional! I had a (second) interviewer come out, shake my hand and say, "Cindy it's so nice to meet you." Which means she's been looking at the wrong resume for the past 10(?) minutes. "I'm not Cindy, but I DO have a 10am interview with you". Surprisingly, I did not get the job.

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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on who "they" are. If your team is prepared, but say, IT doesn't have your computer, it could be a matter of mixed communication or that IT is overloaded with requests (there could be a number of reasons for this). This has happened one or two times in the four years I've been with my company, but that shouldn't be considered a red flag in and of itself.

    Richard Pennington
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    UK, now retired (ex IT). There was one previous employer where I resigned before Christmas and came back as a contractor in January. When I left in December, they should have removed my access to the building, to the IT system and to the telephones (they had a fancy system where you logged into the phone and your telephone number followed your location). What actually happened was that when I came back in January, all my previous accesses still worked. And then they stopped working in the first week that I was there as a contractor. And then they had to be re-initialised for my new identity as a contractor.

    Black nigha
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In nursing they usually are not Your first day you just awkwardly try to seem useful while being ignored

    Josh
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like first days are always a clusterduck.

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    “Another red flag,” Gleb continued, “to be aware of is a toxic or negative work culture, which can manifest through gossip, backstabbing, and a lack of support among colleagues. Additionally, it's also important to be aware of any cognitive biases that may be present, such as the sunk cost fallacy, which may lead you to overlook red flags in the hopes of making the best of a bad situation.”

    #5

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" I always ask in interviews what the turnover rate is, or why the person I am replacing left the position. Definitely avoided some sketchy scenarios with those questions.

    Pjvie , cottonbro studio Report

    mhoulden
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can get a lot from "how did this position become available?"

    Scott Rackley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...and get up and leave if you sense any evasiveness

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    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was once invited to take a mid-year teaching position. I asked what happened to the current teacher. The moron I talked to basically admitted they were screwing the teacher over and had fun explaining exactly how the were going to cheat him out of his rights. I declined the position but called the teachers' union and filled them in on what I'd heard. The teacher kept his job. The administrator who offered me the job really hadn't looked into my background. In the previous school system I worked in, I was the union president.

    Bleble BlebleBla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have always asked this question, and I highly doubt I ever got the actual true answer to it. Excuses are ready available, done in HR lingo, but they probably will not be truthful.

    InvincibleRodent
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have once gotten an angry tirade about what an awful, inconsiderate person the woman I was gonna replace is as a response- I'll believe that that was the guy's true opinion on the matter, I'll give him that, the honesty was appreciated, but I left very quickly after that.

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    Rosie Hamilton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, but the worst employers are probably going to lie. They aren't going to say 'it's awful here and we can't keep people'. Have to say I've never worked anywhere I knew the turnover rate of my staff! I guess HR might have those stats but we never let them near interviews - they don't know anything about the job. The reason why we were hiring was usually internal promotion by the way!!

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They will often avoid replying this to this question by saying it's a new position, keep digging a bit.

    CanadianaKa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS. Twice in my career I took a job out of desperation that I soon learned I was the third in in less than a year. In the first case I was turfed out in seven months and after being replaced three or four more times, the manager was finally moved to an area without direct reports. The second, she was told if I didn't work out, SHE would be fired. Lucky for her, I worked out and outlasted her.

    Matt Connaire
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for a recruitment agency. The company planned to sell our service as "we help you hire people who will stay!" The problem was that we had a 64% turnover per year of our own staff! What a joke that company was!

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    #6

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Treating you like a child- ie. monitoring the time you arrive/leave, timing your breaks/bathroom visits, dress codes that don't make sense for your role, and any other rules that make more sense for a kid than an adult. If you're an experienced professional in an office setting, you should be basically left to take care of yourself as long as your work is getting done. Obviously, these rules make more sense for jobs where you need to schedule breaks around other people, or service jobs, or jobs with lots of people with little experience - but still, I hear stories of places that give people warnings for being a minute late.

    NixonsGhost , AlphaTradeZone Report

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always arrive late at the office, but I totally make up for it by leaving early.

    Remi (He/Him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Often monitoring the time you arrive and time you leave is actually a good thing. Too many places make people work unpaid overtime by not monitoring the hours. They'll claim they don't monitor, because they trust the workers and then give so much work that it can't be fitted in the normal day.

    Alewa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. At my last job, working hours were recorded so the employer could protect itself and the employees from unpaid overtime. At first I thought it was intrusive, but after a few months I could take two days off due to overtime just because I arrived a few minutes earlier or left a few minutes later on most days.

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    Frando Bone
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is because irresponsible people ruined it for everyone. Just call it what it is. When I joined my company almost 20 years ago, we had casual Fridays, but when people started coming to work in torn jeans, sandals, and sleeveless tops, they canceled it and never brought it back.

    Rosie Hamilton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's wrong with sleeveless tops? Is there something wrong with seeing people's arms that I'm not aware of?

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am unable to work for a micromanager. I essentially shut down, make mistakes, and end up working slower if someone’s breathing down my neck and nitpicking every little thing I do. Train me properly in the first place, so I actually know what the f**k I’m supposed to do and how to do it. Then all you have to do is just put the pile of that day’s work on my desk, tell me what’s the most urgent, and hopefully you’re smart enough to put it on top so I’d know—-never ever EVER expect me to read your f*****g mind—-then leave me the f**k ALONE! If I have a question, I will ask. If something needs to be in your desk ASAP, I will do it first and get it to you when it’s done. Everything else in that “to-do” pile you left me at 9am will be in a “done” pile by 5pm. But ONLY if you leave me alone to do it!

    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not always, depends on the type of job and other factors. Such as you work in a factory, because of how the system works, they need to know the exact time stamps.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Um, I will SH*T for as long as it absolutely takes me. Wanna come measure to see if the time was wasted? Crude, I realize fellow Pandas, but come on. You're actually tracking how long my potty breaks last? I certainly won't, last I mean - there's micromanaging and then there's telling me how long I can use the restroom. Worked in one place where I was stopped and told I'd have to wait for my break to use the restroom. I just looked this dumb b***h in the face and told her, "I am a fully grown adult woman and I know when I have to pee. Now get out of my way or prepare for a puddle". SHE was the one who got fired. Heeheeheee.

    Timbob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t think I’de hire you!

    Ruth Kilpatrick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where my son works if he's 1 minute late he gets 1/4 of a point off. 6 points total and you're fired.

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    #7

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If you constantly get “this is how we’ve always done it” responses to your suggestions.

    regularasslady , Monstera Report

    FakeOptimist
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had that happen to me at the first company meeting when I made some suggestions. A year later they were repeated by someone else and implemented. Another year later I had a more rewarding job/management.

    Katie Andrews
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worked at a non-profit that I really believed in; they did great things for my own and surrounding communities. Everything was going well; everyone was friendly to my face. The day before Thanksgiving break, got pulled into the office, and was written up on 5-6 VERY small, unimportant "mistakes". Included in that was being written up for making a suggestion about health and safety. I was written up for telling a prospective hire what the job was like. You get the drift. Noped out immediately. Miss the work, but clearly do not miss the two-faced people there, who all had very fixed mindsets, and seem to be utterly terrified of losing their jobs, so any place ruled by fear, where people are afraid to make suggestions? BIG NO.

    Toothless Feline
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even with the caveat of working there a while before offering suggestions, if the only response they give is "we've always done it this way", then they don't know why they do it that way. If they knew, they'd say something different from that. If they do know and just won't tell you, then they're being jerks. No matter how you look at it, that response is a red flag.

    Yvette Desmarais
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or we can't do that here. We tried something similar 100 years ago and it didn't work. Likely a different thing that failed for reasons they don't exist now but no matter.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sent a memo to my department head and bcc'd the CEO, CFO & Owner on some revisions I thought might make the office run a little more smoothly. I was told to "just do your job and stop making waves". We went back and forth a few times, each time her basically telling me "that's how we've always done it". The last email I received regarding these issues was from the Owner, the CEO & the CFO. My department head wasn't included. I hear she was given a decent severance package before I was given her job.

    LH25
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree, as long as those suggestions don't come before you've had a little time to learn why things are done as they are. Then you can talk about how to make it better.

    BluEyedSeoulite
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband just had to deal with this mindset and he was hired to change it. The owner didn't want to change things too drastically but eventually changed his mind and his business is doing much better now. If he hadn't gotten on board, my husband would have quit pretty quickly

    sara fulmer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More "this is how it's done" Even when given an alternative....? But? this is how it's done. No "always" no assumptions to a future

    Seabeast
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, up to a point. It's usually necessary to work there for at least a few months before making suggestions, so that you know why they've always done it that way.

    HangryHangryHippo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The infamous "Five Monkeys Experiment"!

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    If you identify one of these red flags, Gleb argues that it's important to weigh the pros and cons before making a decision.

    “On one hand, it may be wise to walk away if the red flags are severe and it seems unlikely that they will be addressed or resolved. On the other hand, it may be worth giving the company a second chance if the red flags are relatively minor and there are good reasons to believe that they can be addressed or improved,” the CEO of Disaster Avoidance Experts explained.

    #8

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" People have either been there for decades or a few weeks. No people in between.

    desertravenwy , fauxels Report

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That could just mean that the company survived some difficult time before and now they are just bouncing back up. This can, but does not have to be a red flag.

    jenjie.newt
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally possible, which leaves the survivors fearful and embittered, leading to defensiveness and poor new hire training. Which then leaves to poor retention of new hires and a downward spiral due to lack of new talent

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    Swati Mohanty
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am writing from a very personal experience here. This became one of the major reasons of quitting my last job. The management was full of employees who had been in the company for decades and ran a mutual appreciation society where they kept praising each other without any visible progress or work being done, berating new joiners and employees and never accepting suggestions from new hires or anything about the new and progressive market practices. Kept talking and preaching a lot about textbook stuff like coaching and mentoring but having zero demonstration of the same.

    Swati
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also missed adding to the point that many of the new employees kept leaving because they faced similar circumstances as me and were pushed and pestered throughout their tenure in that company.

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    Dolly_of TheCowboy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You often find this in toxic wards. The "stuck" and the "just started about to leave". The stuck know their behaviour will not be tolerated anywhere else so are bitter and trapped in a job they hate, or they are only in the job because of who they know/knew and have no actual skills and just bully other staff because of manager protection, or are so burnt out but will not leave waiting for the ward to change so take it out on everyone else. Or the new staff that get rotated in or started and realise what a toxic hell the place is and either quit almost immediately or mean girl it to become the next generation of the stuck

    JayWantsACat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was how my company was (it was bought recently) and it's the best company I've ever worked for. And I've worked for many decent companies. It was family owned since like the 1926 and they treated us like family (or as much as a company can treat it's employees). We were all devasted when the owner with the largest control decided to sell and not just because of what that meant for our jobs.

    Mel Colley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like a good thing to me. Employees stick around because they're treated good and paid fairly.

    Lara Verne
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or it's company with seasonal work.

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    #9

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" You realize that all of the other people working there are related to the person who hired you or the person who is running the place. Run while you still can.

    adoptagreyhound , fauxels Report

    DennyS (denzoren)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem with family-run business is when...you're not part of the family.

    Clown fish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dam right it is. It's like being invited to a party but you're never really wanted there

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    Mark Melton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You NEVER work for a small family business. You WILL be screwed over every single time.

    JPotts
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Family tolerates incompetence within the family.

    bottomless.abyss.of.bordem
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But a non -family member ordering the wrong paper clips is the end of the world. You owe daddy, uncle Tim, and little crackhead Billy an apology!

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    Hey Kat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like I may be the only one to disagree - I work for a family owned construction/trucking company. The owners daughters and their husbands run the companies and their kids work here - out in the field with the crews. I have NEVER been happier. 2 of the office people have been here 4 years, 1 3 years and 2 25+ years.

    HangryHangryHippo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not necessarily a red flag... the company could've started as a family-owned project and their family members available do not have the knowledge required for that position.

    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, this. I know someone who went to work at a lawfirm, the two senior partners were bothers, and the laywers were their kids, and looking to expand their legal practice. Now it's a huge firm, with many non-family members as partners. They just were small and stuck to family to build it up

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    Amy Feldman
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for one home improvement company that was basically all family from the salesmen to the installers to office staff. RUN FAST, RUN FAR IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.

    Richard Pennington
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    UK, now retired (ex IT). At one of my previous employers, the CEO's wife was the head of HR. Big red flag.

    Lɶwin Von Schatten
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually once worked for one that was lovely. Half the people were related to the founder, but the other half (including me) was treated really well as well.

    Mel Colley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would only work for a family run business if i was being paid under the table

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    #10

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If everyone is trash talking everyone else, you don’t want to work there.

    ijustsmokeok , Yan Krukau Report

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hahaha no but really, you're like the bonus I got this year, nothing! Ahahaha

    Rougarou Cher
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mentioned a certain coworker's behavior to my boss (lifetimes ago at my second job ever so I don't remember the details about it) and apparently someone had been already complaining about them. He asked me more because he acknowledged I never talked about anyone or complained about anyone. It actually helps opinions to hold more weight I guess.

    Peryton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This stock photo is a lot

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    #11

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If they ask you to clock out and then keep working to finish closing or whatever, run away fast. It's never just a one-time thing.

    lilgraytabby , Magnet.me Report

    Cyber Returns
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK when you clock out it not only sets your working hours, so you get the right pay, but it also doubles as safety so that in the event of a fire they can make sure everyone has got out. How can they make sure you are out when it says you were not even in?

    Yoga Kitty
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In addition, it can be an insurance issue if you have an accident on your way home. Here in Germany, you have insurance cover on your way to and from work but only if it is the shortest reasonable route and taken directly before/after work. An hour or two after clocking out this would no longer count.

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    axle f
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's also illegal damn near everywhere, at least in the US.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s a form of wage theft. Don’t let an employer cheat you out of pay. The6 want you to stay late or be on call? Then they ducking well better pay you for it—-regular pay time and a half if it’s ove4 your 40 hours—-or holiday pay tine and a half, ffs!

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was really just a one-time thing, they wouldn't need you to clock out. They could afford to pay you for the extra time.

    Samara Messer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a front desk job years ago where someone was supposed to cover for me at 4pm when it was time for me to leave but more times than not, no one came. I was required to clock out by 4pm, not a minute later. Many times I was stuck helping customers off the clock for 30 minutes or more.

    Richard Pennington
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    UK, now retired (ex IT). One of my previous employers used to do projects for the UK Government. Bids for these contracts tended to be intense, and would run right up to the deadline. On one occasion my entire team (in Farnborough, Hampshire) worked through a weekend for a bid which had to be delivered on the Monday (in Norwich, Norfolk). The saving graces were: [1] everyone pitched in, including the managers; [2] having finished my own section, I was then available - and willing - to do instant technical reviews for other parts as they were completed (again, everybody pitched in); [3] pizzas were delivered to the project at regular intervals; [4] when we finished on Sunday evening we were told to take Monday and Tuesday off and come back in on Wednesday. Incidentally, this employer did not use a clock-in/out system, and we were all salaried (no overtime). "Pizza parties" were not uncommon (for various different teams when a deadline was imminent).

    Andy Frobig
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got in trouble for doing this on my own initiative once--too much liability. Legality probably depends on jurisdiction.

    Lisa H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Crocs! Yeah, those shoes? That company does this. At least when I worked there for two years. They're lucky they have a good product, that's ALL they have going for them.

    #12

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Employers who bemoan the lack of “good employees who want to work”. If everyone who hires sucks then either you are the most unfortunate business owner in the world or you need to look in the mirror.

    YeOldeDingusKhan , August de Richelieu Report

    General Anaesthesia
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just like in relationships, "all my girlfriends have been whackos".

    Dan Holden
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know about that one. I've known more than a couple people who always seem to get together with toxic people. It's not that they're toxic themselves, but that they always seem to attract/go for these toxic individuals.

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    Seabeast
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This usually means "We want to pay you the bare minimum and work you way past the hours you should be there".

    axle f
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the one place i know trickle down works....if leadership is terrible, you *really really REALLY* don't want to work there...

    LeeAnne B
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My former employee. "Just can't find good, loyal staff". Lost 22 people over 3 years. That was turnover. For a staff contingent of 38. Never once asked themselves what they could improve on to retain staff.

    #13

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" My friend got hired at a place that called itself "the family". Nahhh.

    zeroGamer Report

    Mason Kronol
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked at a place that had signs everywhere that said things like we are a family. A disfuncional, lying family maybe so yeah.

    Mel Colley
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like the mafia to me

    Pursuing Peonies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a little mind blown when I learned the mafia is still around

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    featherytoad
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No thanks, that's creepy. Gives me horror movie vibes.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds more like a cult. Or whatever they’re calling pyramid schemes these days. Still a pyramid scheme, no matter the name.

    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whenever they use the word family you know you're in for a lot of stress.

    Laugh or not
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not even A family, but The family ? Run!

    Andy Frobig
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I already have one of those and one is too many

    LeeAnne B
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aah I got the "family" speech last week.

    Theoretical Empiricist
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or "The Village", with the CEO being the "mayor". I certainly didn't elect him!

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    #14

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If they lure you into an interview for a management position, but tell you during the interview that the position has already been filled. Then they ask if you're interested in interviewing for the entry level position instead.

    Wisco1856 , Alex Green Report

    V
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had the opposite thing happen. Applied for an entry level position, got to the interview and asked if I could go for a manager position instead...

    CanadianaKa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Similar - applied for a manager role, got offered General Manager. Googled the guy making the offer. Turns out he ran through employees like toilet paper, firing them when they refused to kite cheques or pay vendors out of their own accounts or... Yeah, I didn't take the job.

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    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take the entry-level job, but don't show. If they contact you, tell them that your interest in the position has been filled, and since they won't give you the management position with them, you've decided to manage without them.

    Cyber Returns
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had this happen and said "No, that's not the job I applied for" and walked out. I let the Job centre know, and they removed the ad

    rspanther
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When into an interview for the shipping and receiving job and they started asking about doing the manufacturing job that wasn't being advertised.

    John Dilligaf
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    interviewed for a company for a job. Recruiter called me back and said they didn't think I was right for that job, but they had another position they thought I was qualified for. They were right, I worked for them for 12 yrs.

    Shannon Hawks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this happens alot to people with alot of exp.

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    #15

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Having a guy saying in the 1st group meeting: this company IS NOT a pyramid scheme.

    masteroftheseas , fauxels Report

    I Am John
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its a three sided square, where we all support the top.

    DennyS (denzoren)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in a meeting with some people once and I asked "would you say the structure of this is triangular....almost pyramid shaped?" The presenter didn't get it...but it was a pyramid scheme

    Adam Zad
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, because a pyramid has a four-sided base. Our base only has three sides!

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That tells you that something sphinx around there.

    Jack Henry Faust
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once showed up for an interview about 20 years ago and it was a straight up Amway pitch. When I figured it out, I lost my s**t. I started screaming at him for wasting my time. I pounded on his desk. I got 2 inches from his face. I'm huge. I was a bouncer at a strip club. I can go from teddy bear to f**k around and find out in a split second. I told him I would be monitoring the ads and if he tried that b******t again, I would have him charged with fraud after I came back with a few friends. I didn't really keep up with it but the look in his eyes told me enough.

    Praecordia
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. Thats a flaming red flag if I’ve ever seen one. I once had a couple try to rope me into a pyramid scheme. They kept talking about this great opportunity and bought me starbucks. After the first meeting I still didn’t know what the opportunity was about. During the second meeting the guy starts drawing tiny triangles in front of me. I say oh like a pyramid scheme. He looks offended and say’s we don’t like to call it that. I respond you may not like to but you are sitting here drawing tiny pyramids in front of me. 😒 Not today satan. I got 2 free lattes out of it tho.

    Mickysixxx
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Has this ever happened? Just saying it would be a terrible way to run a scheme

    #16

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" They like to micro manage you but then tell you off for not having enough initiative to do something.... then tell you off for doing it due to micro managing and the cycle continues

    SwimnGinger- , Jonathan Borba Report

    Headless Roach
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm not micromanaging you, just advising how to phrase that sentence in your email"

    V
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Follows policies & procedure. Gets told off for not being flexible with a client. Goes off p&p to help a client. Gets in trouble for not following p&p.

    Samara Messer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a manager who would go through my emails, deleted emails and even my messenger when I wasn't at the front desk. I wasn't allowed to lock my screen since it was a shared computer..She also recorded our conversation when she would call me from her desk. I found out when a coworker tipped me off so I started clearing out my messenger, inbox and deleted items folder each day of anything that was old and no longer relevant. I had nothing to hide but didn't want to give her the satisfaction.

    Mark Melton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Caused by middle management trying to justify their existence.

    Dawnieangel76
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been at my job for 7 years. Sometimes the office manager gets bored, so she'll overhear what I'm doing then "casually" sidles over asking questions about how I did what I did. I'm like, hello, we have 4 newish people here. Go breathe over their shoulders.

    Mia Hamsa
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This... And the same manager sent me numerous emails of live discussions with factories and team members TWO weeks BEFORE starting work to "Loop you in so you can hit the floor running". Big company, worldwide known.. six pained months I run so fast out of there I didn't stay for goodbyes.

    #17

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" A boss who spies on his employees. With hidden cameras.

    frankramblings , alessandrozocc Report

    FakeOptimist
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only a red flag, illegal too in most places.

    SCP 4666
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. Many years ago there was a scandal with Lidl Germany. Some of the branch stores spied on their employees even in the changing room. They had to take them down in an instant

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    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the Job, say you work at a bank, or a place with highly sensitive documents, I think this wouldnt be a negative, just good security. For 99% of things, yeah, its a red flag

    Yoga Kitty
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The key words are "spies" and "hidden" - a place with highly sensitive documents and stuff would just install cameras and announce that everything is monitored.

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    Michael Bell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    we had a boss who assigned someone as a Spy to monitor Slack for any negative messages about her or the company.

    Killing_Time_At_Work
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    omg, my old work did that. it was fun cameras we're everywhere and it was bugged they heard everything. so, i started playing games with them. messing with there heads and started making them really paranoid leaving me unattended in the office i was so bored

    Cory Tollman
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Visible cameras aren't much better. We have them for security reasons but I got talked to because management checked the camera to see who wrote a comment on one of our marker boards. I was told that "nobody thought it was funny". Funny, all of the non-management who saw it or I told about it thought it was funny. I will grant that it could have potentially contributed to stirring up how people thought about work but not at the checking the cameras level. They had posted on a board about wanting someone to cover a shift even if it meant staying late. I added that I didn't even want to stay for my own shift and that led to checking the cameras.

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    #18

    My workplace has a sign in the employee bathroom that says, “The best way to appreciate your job is picturing yourself without one.” They also don’t pay benefits until after 2 years and have an incredibly high turnover rate. They’re great..

    arguen Report

    HangryHangryHippo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't imagine how happy is the people working there! How awful 🫤

    bottomless.abyss.of.bordem
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My favorite is: If you have time to lean, you have time to clean. Really, a*****e, in 8.5 hours, I can't lean for a minute? I know I can't sit, but, damn, let me lean!

    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. I've heard this constantly. "At least you have your job"....well thank you soooooooo much.

    Mike Fitzpatrick
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for a company who constantly spouted this mantra, "at least you have a job" ... while neglecting to pay the health insurance premium one month so, consequently, the lady who worked on my machine couldn't afford her husband's heart and/or cancer medications. Whoopee! We had a job working for liars, how blessed were we?

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    Zephyr343
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So how many people were let go after 23 months?

    FABULOUS1
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My daughters boss says the policy is you cannot take time off for the first year, and write you up for every unscheduled call out.

    Mickysixxx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now that's motivation! Right next to the "hang in there" poster

    Andy Frobig
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope you're looking for somewhere better

    Praecordia
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Id argue the best way to appreciate your job is to picture yourself in a better one. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Dani Pret
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whhhaaaat. That is so demeaning

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    #19

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" They don't ask you what your wage expectation is, but instead ask you what you were making at your last job.

    SpinPsycho , cottonbro studio Report

    Cyber Returns
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My brother had this happen. He said whatever the average wage was for the job nationally. They said they were asking him, so he whipped out his phone and googled it in front of them and asked for the going rate. They tried to lowball him, and he smiled and said, "Nah. There's a place here that guarantees that rate, and they are looking for staff. Bye" He left and got the other job

    Howl's sleeping castle
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My best friend had to return to his country because of some family issues. He applied for local jobs and was asked the same. He didn't give them any number but told them that they can't afford to pay him even half of what he was getting so it's better that they give him a figure. He was hired and gets good money but yes it is not even half of what he used to get.

    General Anaesthesia
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they are not up front about the possible pay range.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really f***s over freshly graduated college students who worked at McDonald’s to make ends meet while in school, plus those who were lucky, or just really frugal, and didn’t have to work. If they’re truthful, they’ll get a lowball offer. If they lie, it’ll be found out when the prospective employer checks their references. Like I said, f****d over.

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    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The best answer to that question is asking what they're willing to pay.

    Timbob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s when you ask what he’s making!

    InfiniteZeek
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just say I have an NDA. Next question please.

    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had this...they eventually paid me less. Next time I know what to do.

    Zander Porbanda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are regulations against this practice in some parts of the US. It perpetuates pay inequity. A good response is that those were different positions and that the total compensation package met my needs at the time.

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    #20

    "We don't "technically" have breaks. We just take smoke breaks and stuff here and there." No, f**k you. I don't smoke. You can't deny me a meal break, I don't give a s**t how busy you are.

    NavyAnchor03 Report

    Zelda Fitzgerald
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work at Mr. Pickles and the owner would fire people if they took more than 15 mins for their 30 min lunch. I obliged until I got pregnant and had sciatica problems knowing I could raise hell if he fired me and he knew that too. All he could do was talk s**t behind my back 😆 he also once fired a young girl that was sexually harrased while she was wearing the pickle suit outside, just because he didn't want to deal with it. So tired of POS business owners

    Rob Long
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whether you smoke or not you should still take 15 after about 2.5-3 hrs.

    Oliver Coine
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gas stations are the worst for this in my opinion. I worked for Kwik Shop for like...2 or 3 years, never had a break and ate at the till because there wasn't even a break room. There was also a rule that you couldn't buy your own food if you're working with other people (aka, only overnight could buy alone). My manger bought food and I asked to buy a hotdog because I was starving. She said no, and scurried Into our backroom for 3+ hours. I didn't have lunch that day.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey, lighten up! He didn’t say you don’t get a lunch hour!

    #21

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" A side room to nap is probably the #1 red flag

    feartrich , Max Vakhtbovych Report

    Erica Knapp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not necessarily... I worked at a place with an extra room. It was used for customer meetings that needed privacy, it was also used by employees that were breast feeding and needed a clean private place to pump.... And yes, some employees did take naps lol

    Jason C
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is common in healthcare. Employees being able to take a nap when they are tired is safer.

    Dolly_of TheCowboy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Common but only for the doctors that I have ever experienced. Any nurses having a nap could expect an unpleasant conversation/disciplinary letter in file or immediate termination as "you can sleep at home". Have heard from friends of legendary places where in-shift designated nap times and locations for all clinical staff were the norm and they had almost zero turn over and much reduced adverse incidents because happier, less stressed workers

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    Andy Murphy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't agree with this. I have a sleep disorder that renders it impossible for me to remain awake all day long. I would consider a nap area as an accommodation for my disability.

    David Menéndez Hurtado
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Sweden, all workplaces must have one by law. It is very useful for mothers that want to pump milk or if you get a migraine attack. Or are just tired.

    Chonky Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No? I live in Sweden and there is no such law unless it's a really big company. However, we must have staff rooms ofc, but a sofa in that room for people to rest on is enough, not an entire separate room.

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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do not agree. My employer provides "quiet rooms" where folks can spend as much time as they need to take a nap, clear your head, quiet your anxiety. They have a lock on the door with a vacant/occupied indicator to keep folks from disturbing you, a reclining chair, and a lamp to read by or turn off if you need to close your eyes for a few minutes. I've used these rooms when I had a migraine or just need to snooze for 30 minutes. No one judges you if you need it.

    Shannon Hawks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wish we had a nap room. green flag for me

    Ralph Kretschmer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, in the contrary. I once had a workplace where they had a large room with a long couch. I sometimes used for a 15 minute power nap when I couldn't concentrate anymore. After the nap I was able to work until the end of work.

    Best Behave
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apart from anything it would be gross as.

    Wondering Alice
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the best places I have worked for had one. People only signed in and out for fire safety, everyone had about the right amount of work to do, but chose own hours. This resulted in lots of people working some really long hours so they could take extra days off

    Dawnieangel76
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have a "zen" room. You can nap, do yoga, etc. if you're feeling overwhelmed or feeling ill.

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    #22

    Being hired for a specific job and then having additional duties tacked on after you are hired. The company doesn't follow it's own employee handbook or whatever rules and guidelines they have. Work hours and days change after you are hired. Telling you which holidays you have off, then not giving you those holiday's off. Every employee is talking s**t about every other employee. Poor or non-existent training time. Management with no management training or knowledge.

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    Icecream Sarang
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better yet, their Handbook is a live document they edit on the fly.

    Amy Feldman
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My last place didn't even have a handbook. I was young and dumb, but that should've been red flag #1 - and a very big one. Also no HR dept.

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    Demongrrrrl
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When the job description ends with "Other duties as assigned."

    Praecordia
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they don’t keep their word just leave. There’s always a better job waiting in the wind.

    Poppy
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The agency that hired me for the role I have now said it was for a different role. But I kind of lucked out because not only do I like the job I have now better than I would have enjoyed the role specified (I'm still in the same role I took when I was hired), I've resisted all attempts to encourage me into that role, I now have a permanent contract. I like my job, I certainly couldn't have coped with the job I applied for had I been given that now that I know what it actually entails.

    Cory Tollman
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "And other duties as assigned". That was in my job description at one point. This last year it wasn't but it did look like it was still in the job descriptions of jobs slightly below mine in grade.

    Zachary Gillette
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was hired as a software engineer for Walmart and heard rumblings that my manager was going to ask me to do service calls for IT troubleshooting. I made it very clear that I would quit on the spot if asked to do that. That was not my job, and I hate talking on the phone.

    FABULOUS1
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We get additional duties each week, our management team love to delegate stuff from other depts to us also. I laugh every time they send out the company job openings and it doesnt even list a quarter of the stuff that we are required to do on a daily basis.

    axle f
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hey, you've worked at PTI, haven't you?

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    #23

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If they tell you overtime is voluntary, then get mad when you never volunteer.

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    axle f
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sure. because they're liars.

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Point out to them that showing up for regular hours really is voluntary too.

    #24

    Places with truly great culture don’t have management teams constantly gushing about how great the culture is. If management talks about the culture ten times in the first week you’re there, run. Don’t look back.

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    axle f
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if you have to sell yourself....you're not really what you're selling.

    Poppy
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I applied to work at Asda (which is in the UK and was owned by Walmart at the time) they kept going on about 'colleague culture' about how everything is about the colleague, how they have colleague appreciation days on the last Friday of the month and have free food for us, Asda Stars where someone who went above and beyond got special recognition and £20 to spend in store and a nice meal etc. They took all that away from us bit by bit. We used to get a Christmas breakfast supplied and made by our managers, but that was stopped (well, changed to just a croissant and a coffee which we had to take during our break rather than allow additional time off like previously). We had our subsidised canteen taken away from us and replaced with vending machines with sandwiches in which was never refilled. We weren't allowed to buy anything from the supermarket unless the store was actually open so on Sunday when they didn't open until 11.45, if you needed anything, tough luck.

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They’re talking about YOU - Humana !!!

    #25

    If they say they are family-friendly. It mean that as a childfree person, i will have to pick up the slack of parents. No thank you.

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    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am child-free in a mostly child-having environment and while I understand the strains that come with it...it is clearly biased when you hear in a meeting "well x doesn't have kids so x can...."

    Samara Messer
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also be wary of places that let parents come in late and leave early as much as they want but get mad at a child free employee for being late due to traffic or an unforseen road closure or for asking to leave a few minutes early for a doctor's appointment.

    Erica Knapp
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have kids and I agree that this isn't ok, but it goes both ways. Yes, I've been passed over for promotions, projects, after hours meet ups and the like bc I have kids. Something bigger needs to change in the work force to accommodate EVERYONE!

    Cory Tollman
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was going to comment that I've missed far less work over the years than my co-workers who have children. It has helped my progress because my lack of absences made me look better in comparison.

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    Dawnieangel76
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Both my last & current jobs are legitimately family-oriented and if you have a family emergency or anything remotely family based, you take care of it. Paid time off, no questions asked. And holidays are either everyone is off, or we take turns, kids or not.

    J Bo
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Suddenly, because school started, all of the 8:00 meetings were starting at 9, but I couldn't leave at 4:30 to go to the gym. If you accommodate one, you should accommodate the other. They had their priorities, I had mine.

    #26

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If you work in manufacturing, the company buys cheap and s****y machinery to save money. If they don’t even value their equipment, they definitely won’t value their people.

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    FakeOptimist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree : in my best job ever the boss said : I'd rather have expenses (tools etc.) than make more profit.

    Larry XK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or they don't want to spend money for maintaining the machine so after a while it keeps breaking down and then they don't want to spend money calling a qualified technician from overseas so they expect me to fix the broken down machine ASAP to keep the product flow.

    axle f
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if they don't have enough parts for the number of machines they run regularly...and have to swap parts from machine to machine on a regular basis? like...oh coolers for injection molding machines....yeah...you might want to leave..

    LeeAnne B
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My previous job. My PC was from 2007. Ran the same Windows version for like 6 years before any upgrade. Used a free antivirus.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or, one I've seen many times, they do not factor in PM, consumables, or general upkeep into their purchases. I've sat in disbelief in meetings when they showcase this new machine they are getting and respond negatively if they knew what the cost of running it per year. "So, you have not included back end expenditures to your purchase plan?" "We accounted for raw materials and energy" "What about downtime, PM, consumables, ammortization, training, duty cycle?" "Crickets" "We saved a lot of money purchasing this brand of machine" "I'm sure you did."

    #27

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" The look of defeat on the faces of their employees. When a place is good to work, their employees seem to be excited to be there. There are smiles, there are jokes, there is enthusiasm. When a company screws over and abuses their employees? The employees get that look of defeat in their eyes. Their job has no enjoyment, it is merely about survival. When I say survival, I don't mean working to make some money to get food to eat, I mean that you are trying to make it to the end of the day, just to go home and repeat the cycle, each day a bit worse than the next. People don't joke and if they do, it seems to be morbid jokes about the workplace. People aren't social. You can feel the lack of joy. The company has managed to defeat their workforce.

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    Craig Walker
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interviewed at a big health company for an IT position and as I walked through the work area with maybe 30 employees I noticed that there was no sound, nobody was talking. Not a good sign. Possible clue for it came during the interview when I was randomly informed "I don't care if your son has a soccer game, if I need you to work OT, I need you to stay". I don't do slave work, so informed him I'd be looking elsewhere.

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow ! Was that big health company Humana by chance ? (I don’t love their culture anymore and I spit out the Kool-aid!)

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    liam newton-harding
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was working on one TV show, and was asked to deliver a tailor's kit to another show. I walked into that work space, and...silence...it was lunchtime, everyone sat at separate desks...and not a single word, and Costumers gossip, and laugh, and chat like Fish Wives. I later heard, from a Teamster friend, that the entire Production was like this. Heads down, grind on through, get it done.

    Poppy
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I interviewed at a big IT company and as soon as I walked on the main office floor I felt nauseous. Nothing had happened, but no one seems happy or content. They just seem resigned to their fate. I actually got the job but I told them I had had a better offer closer to home as I just got a bad vibe about the place. Everything just seemed grey and lifeless. I got another job a few weeks later and it meant I was unemployed longer not taking that job but I'm glad I passed on it.

    #28

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" They have literally everything in the building. I interviewed at a place where they had the cafeteria and a nurse station (not healthcare related) in the building. I was pretty desperate for a job so I overlooked this, but was glad they didn't call me back. They didn't allow missed days, and I was told by one of the ladies who let me listen in on her phones that she had missed a day of work so she didn't get any sort of raise that year. If you're sick, they expect you to be in there and doing the job. Worst case scenario you need to visit THEIR nurse.

    ImAPixiePrincess , Carlos Magno Report

    Howl's sleeping castle
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had accidentally rubbed a piece of cloth on my face that had little insect poison. I was already in office when the actual burning started. I went to the nurse at the office's medical room and told her everything. She asked me to go to a dermatologist for my white spots (I have vitiligo). I just rolled my eyes, went to the washroom to wash my face, applied some aloe gel and went back to work. Never went for medical assistance there again.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At large factories it is vital to have a nurse. Ours saved a couple peoples digits and defibbed one in just the last 5 years.

    Con O Cuinn
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is Google's schtick. Gym, doctor, dentist, karaoke room, etc. But don't pay as well as they make out and are incredibly anti-union for a company who's motto supposedly is "do no evil".

    CJ Gallagher
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don’t realise how much time you save when everything is on site until you work somewhere that doesn’t have that provision and your entire 30min lunch break is spent getting to and from, ordering, paying, etc. By the time you get back to work, you’ve got a lunch you can’t eat - if you managed to get lunch and didn’t have to run another errand like going to the bank or gym or doctors or pharmacy - and the rest of the shift to get through.

    S.P.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have to disagree also. I work at a big box retailer's corporate headquarters which has held around 7000 associates at at time, and we have cafes, gym, CVS/clinic, Starbucks, dry cleaners, museum etc but are still pretty liberal with days off and benefits aren't too bad either. Just convenience factors for such a large place without the pull to be on site all of the time. I'm not heavy into the koolaid but still have to appreciate it for what it is.

    Chonky Panda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What company has that many employees at one place?? 😮😮

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    Bruce Horton
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So having good health care is now a negative?

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    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't necessarily agree with this. I worked at two companies located on large campuses. It's not so easy to drive to urgent care or grab a bite to eat. I also worked for a large bank situated in a building in Charlotte, NC that was connected to other buildings via underground tunnels. You could go shopping, eat lunch, pick up your prescriptions - all within walking distance.

    #29

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Everyone has their own best way to do something and they all tell you in private. It sounds like their helping, but it’s really a symptom of bad management.

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    axle f
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    which is a variation on...oh, just do your own thing. we'll b***h at you when we think you're wrong.

    DC
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh yes.............

    #30

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Toxic work environment such as refusing to address issues and becoming passings aggressive about it.

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    Lisa H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes the toxic work environment is due to low to mid level management and if the company has ANY morals whatsoever, that management will be gone quickly after it's brought to their attention, even in large corporate chains. I've watched it happen at least a couple of times and it was SO satisfying! With enough formal complaints, there's a good chance the higher ups will listen, especially if a lot of complaints are from customers. I once worked at a hardware store and one of the managers was so bad that employees would run away whenever she came near them. One cashier was listening to customer after customer complain about her, so this cashier started keeping complaint cards at her register. It wasn't long after that that this manager was demoted twice over and transferred. Don't know why she didn't get fired, but at least we didn't have to deal with her anymore!

    Tess
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish that happened in more companies

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    Icecream Sarang
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My boss to the only other female in the company: “You better watch out. We hired a real woman this time.” My response: “are you insulting her or me, because that was just offensive all around.”

    Mickysixxx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Passing aggressive people are the worst

    #31

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" The person interviewing you doesn't seem to have any idea who you are. I don't mean your name, I mean the stuff in your CV/application. If they don't know who you are, that means they don't *care* who you are. They just want a warm body for as long as they can have you. Also, an overly complicated bonus schedule based off a large number of metrics. That's the sign of a company that will be doing everything they can to screw you out of bonuses while simultaneously using the promise of future bonuses to retain people. I can guarantee you that at least 2 of those metrics are all but impossible to hit simultaneously.

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    DonS
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That! Did a recent interview where my soon-to-be boss didn't seems to have any idea of who I was and what my job was about. When I started asking question about the job (technical stuff and turnover rate), she had absolutely NO clue about the basic technical stuff and never answered the turnover rate question. I bailed out and will stay away from that place. I felt she was looking for employees who will do their job and her job at the same time while she retains the salary and title of department manager. Also got an interview, where they tell me I can get the demanded salary if I count the yearly bonuses. Yearly bonuses depends on good faith of the bosses, so that's a no. Furthermore, the company, despite existing since 2016, had almost no exposure online (risk-management company). It was sketchy.

    Beth Vega
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Overly complicated bonus schedule based off a largenumber of metrics...sounds like many of our school districts.

    rspanther
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They set up a bonus program using averages from the last year, if you processed 35 pieces in a week you get $50, if you do that all month they will double the total. And then they raised the number the next month, and the month after that, until it gets to the point that no one can make the numbers. It gets to the point that no one even tries to make the numbers.

    #32

    Disagreements on procedure. If the book says one way, manager tells you to do another, and a coworker suggests differently all on the same situation - red flag, especially in retail. I like working somewhere where there's consistency in rules and how things are done mostly because I don't want to look dumb doing it the "wrong way" for the same situation another time.

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    Tams21
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A good gf general rule is that if someone tells you to do something outside of normal procedures then get it in writing. That rule is just as important in a high-level corporate environment as it is in a minimum wage job. Cover your back!

    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Usually there would be non-conformance procedures to follow in a case like this but that's if it's even addressed when submitted.

    #33

    When it turns out you have more than one manager. And they have different ideas about what/how/why you should(n't) be doing.

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    rspanther
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And one manager doesn't have a clue about how to do your job.

    LibrarianJanet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or senior employees who think they're a manager...

    Sarah
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they all blame the day's problem on the one manager who has the day off ...

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again are we working where I work

    Katie Andrews
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First job at 17 was at a major burger place. One night, there were THREE managers on duty, and none of them were talking to each other. I was bounced around like a p**n, constantly re-directed. Finally around 10pm, after hours of this, I was so tired I was fried, and AH manager that was left on duty told me to do something when I had JUST started something else. Flipped him off, he said you're fired, i said THANK YOU. Stripped down to shorts and shirt, left my uniform on the floor, walked out. Parents were "disappointed" in me that I got fired from my first job... but I was so busy beating myself up at 17 I didn't tell them what actually happened. Now I know I should have spoken up more, talked to all the managers, hell, even called their managers, or just quit on the spot. Love time, maturity, 20/20 hindsight.

    #34

    Started a new job 6 months ago. Coworker took me out to lunch and warned me not to trust anyone. He repeated it again. **DON'T TRUST ANYONE**. Turns out he was the one that I wasn't supposed to trust.

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    Mickysixxx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have trusted just that one time when he told you not to trust ANYONE

    Mike Fitzpatrick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    tbh, he TOLD you not to trust him you don't need a Magic 8 Ball to decipher the message!

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    Clown fish
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are there to work with/along side not to be friends with don't tell anyone anything you don't want others knowing

    #35

    When the atmosphere really relaxes when the big bosses are gone. People start to actually talk and not just whisper to each other. People get up from their desks and walk around the room, not having a particular destination (bathroom or someone else’s desk). People stop pretending to work when they are waiting on stuff to do

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    Lisa H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there. Sometimes, but only sometimes, there's a lull where there really isn't anything to do. Relax, but stay alert in case something comes up. I call this active relaxation. You're still on the clock so stay alert, but go grab a coffee or whatever. Breathe! If upper level snotbags don't allow this, start looking elsewhere to work. You should be allowed to occasionally chill while on the clock as well as off. This is not slacking off. This is taking care of yourself.

    FABULOUS1
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My direct supervisor would always stand up and stare across the room if she heard laughter and us talking to each other.

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are we working with me? All theses sound like my work

    #36

    A good one I heard was to check the state of the employee toilets. If they were well kept that meant the employees had a certain amount of pride in their work place, but if it’s pretty trashed looking employees don’t like their job or workspace. When I contemplated on this with my own employment experience it was fairly spot one

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    liam newton-harding
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Along these lines I heard about a female CEO whose job was mergers with other companies, one of the things she did was ALWAYS check the women's restrooms. Free Sanitary Products? No? Then this company is cheap, and upper management is only interested in themselves. Not worth acquiring.

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, they have a good cleaner! Take it from the cleaners

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe it means they have a bad janitor!

    rspanther
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey they finally got new automatic paper towel dispensers, after the one stopped working for the last year.

    #37

    If your future manager insults the team in any way, run. I once interviewed with a manager who made 2 very brief "jokes" with a bitter edge implying her current team was incompetent/lazy. It gave me pause, but I brushed it aside as "well, of course I'll be awesome!" and took the job. It only took 1 week for me to see she cruelly berated her entire team and other staff on a daily basis, and within 2 weeks I was enjoying the same treatment. That job killed my mental health. Never ignoring those screaming red flags again.

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    Frando Bone
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We had a VP once who did that. We ran HIM off. All of us complained to HR one by one and he was fired.

    #38

    This may not be something that bothers others, but for me I see red flags when there is a steep, obvious, and unquestioned hierarchy separating levels of staff. I've worked in places where the lowest-level staff had nearly no way to hold bad managers accountable. Led to some serious workplace bullying, harassment, and in at least one situation, sexual assault by a senior leader to his assistant. I don't want to work someplace where whole classes of employees are treated like shit, even if I'm personally not.

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    #39

    Christian company. God shouldn't be a selling point for their clients or employees. Most the time it's horses**t to seem like they're going to treat you right or have some values. Instead they will use it to excuse pushy Chaplains as their HR reps and several fundi obnoxious employees who drank the koolaide. Subtle religious stuff is fine but it shouldn't be "Hi we are X-Company, we're a christian company that does Y." The last company that did this used $15,000 to put up some s****y looking painted metal boxes with bible verses on them. I wouldn't doubt that it cost them $250 bucks and the that CEO's nice Audi was just a gift from Jeebus. Also, personal bias perhaps, but fat upper management. I mean obese, not just hefty. Something about the CFO at my last job just stank with "I indulge myself at every opportunity." When they were so gracious as to pay us a few dollars above minimum wage and ensured no one felt overworked by being fulltime.

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    Geoffrey Scott
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ahhh yes...the "prosperity gospel"

    Katie Andrews
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    which, by the way, is a heresy dating from the Middle Ages. AVOID!

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religious employers say "You'll get your reward in Heaven. Well, rent is free in Heaven. It's here on earth where I need the money.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, beware of the “christian” company if you’re not a member of their same version of “christianity”. It’s bad enough to have the gaggle of church ladies/men who constantly proselytize/tell people who aren’t christians that they doomed to go to hell, badmouth you to management so they’ll give you bad reviews and/or pass you over for promotion because of your beliefs/non-belief. It’s illegal as hell (pun intended), but if the perps have tribal solidarity, they’ll cover it up and make it hard for you to prove it. Imagine all that being company-wide, and you were only hired just long enough to prove to the labor board that they don’t discriminate against non-christians, then fire you for all those fake bad reviews. Yep, happened to me.

    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see these ads on TV all the time. Not only it strikes me as phony but I would never give them any of my business, specifically because they are pushing their "faith" forward to make money... money is the root of all evil, they say... well ;)

    Sarah
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Working in retail, I can say management tends to get the desk work bod. While not an end all, be all (esp in the USA hello obesity epidemic) you can usually tell who is the least stressed/passing the damage on to the next boss

    #40

    Anti-union indoctrination videos...

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    Frando Bone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We had these almost 20 years ago. But that's because our benefits were better than any union could offer. They still are. And we still aren't unionized.

    Dan Bexell
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unions are only necessary if they treat you badly. Unfortunately, most of the time they are necessary.

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    #41

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Be concerned if they have outside consultants doing "analysis" and looking into departments, processes, systems, etc. They may be preparing the company for sale or bankruptcy and heads will soon start rolling.

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    Headless Roach
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Consultants can also be advising on a bigger transformation for the better. They are not always a bad sign on their own.

    CultOfBambi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed - I've worked in the past as a consultant analyst on big transformation programmes - none of which resulted in redundancies or 'negative' restructuring. It does happen, but not enough for that to be the most likely outcome, like OP suggests.

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    Frando Bone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Consultants work both ways. We had them 15 years ago, and our brand/marketing departments ran 100x better; they opened up several new positions and completely re-did our ops strategy.

    #42

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" Hearing coughing. People should be encouraged to stay home with minor illness to prevent spreading contagious diseases.

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    ᶜʰᵃᵒᵗⁱᶜ ˡᵉᵍᵃˡ
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    unless they're choking, I do this all the time. With my water.

    Frando Bone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People cough and sneeze all the time without being sick. You've just been newly conditioned to think that any minor bodily function is contagious.

    Mickysixxx
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People cough for all kinds of reasons, they're not necessarily contiguous

    Jan Schweikert
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of us have chronic sinus/allergy issues and aren't actually sick but we cough a lot...

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sad thing is in some workplaces that don’t offer health insurance (US)…take a day with no sick leave offered and lose pay to pay a doctor you can’t afford or go to work to try to afford over the counter medication and hope for the best.

    #43

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" When they want to know about private accounts or even some asking straight up for social media log in information.

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    Cassandra Hager
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope! It's against the T&Cs of most social media sites.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They want to stalk you online. Creepy f*****s. My off time is my own, so butt the f**k OUT!

    Lola Atkinson
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or demanding you to fill in a form telling them ANY side job that you do that "may take focus and energy from THIS job"... Ughhh... *roll eyes* Pay us enough and we won't need a side gig.

    #44

    Specifically the management's turnover rate. The employee's is important too, but in every job I've worked there's always people who think it's an unfathomable hell hole. Some folks just don't like working, so I take it with a grain of salt. Management is a different story. If you've got new bosses every few months, you know there's a real problem.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had this with an apartment I lived at, management turned over 5 times in a year and a half. Red flag.

    #45

    No talking.

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    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once worked for Chinese company. (Workplace was in Czechia) We normally talked as much as we wanted, but then Chinese owner of company came to see how we worked. And started bitching that employees cannot talk. Didn't give any other explanation besides "that's how they work in China". Well, we weren't in China. We did not have any law, that would forbid talking. So everyone ignored it, including bosses. I would leave, but no one enforced such a rule and they paid pretty well.

    #46

    Pay is production based only with no base pay. Meaning if there’s no work available, you’re not getting paid.

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    UnicornSnotRules
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The entire auto technician/dealership industry in the US...techs are paid flat rate. No work, no pay. And some (read many) service managers play favorites, giving their favorite techs more work/better paying work.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same goes for commission only sales pay. Means you’re going to be selling from hunger. Trying to hard to get someone to buy something really turns people off, but you know, when you’re starving because you’re not getting any base pay…

    #47

    Group interviews. If you are being interviewed alongside anyone else then just walk out. Its a huge sign of massive employee turnover rate that they need to group interview to "save time" since they probably pull the stunt once a week. The group interview spells poor management, poor working conditions and poor company moral.

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    Andy
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the role. I have done group interview sessions before for roles like team leaders or managers, where the role involved very close work with the team. Since they needed someone who could work well with others, handle opposing viewpoints etc, makes more sense to look at the potential candidates CVs, get a shortlist of those who could do the job, then get them in a room to do some group tasks before the individual interview stage

    Wondering Alice
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on field too. A large school might have large turnover once a year for support staff, this would not raise any flags.

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    sturmwesen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once went to IKEA for a job while at university. 10 people and so much toxic positivity. If I remember correctly I did not stay the whole day.

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    #48

    Lack of fire extinguisher and other equipment

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    FakeOptimist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shows they don't care about laws and their staff. Same with dirty toilets/fridges etc.

    #49

    How about this: your lunch time isn’t respected and cut short because “we’re too busy today.”

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    FakeOptimist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. Had a decent boss once who chewed me out for not taking enough time off. Didn't réally know how busy I got so followed me an afternoon and ordered a few colleagues to take over part of my responsibilities.

    Howl's sleeping castle
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. I had jaundice and still kept going to work. (I know I know my bad. I was workaholic. No longer though) My immediate manager was glad but my AVP found out. He first scolded me , arranged for a cab to drop me home and then told me if he finds me at work the next day, he will personally see to it that I am suspended.

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    FABULOUS1
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, yes, yes. When we are in our busiest period they will decide last minute they are cutting our lunches in half. It doesnt matter what plans for your lunch you have made, you better cancel them. We pay for the fact they are short staffed every year.

    #50

    I worked at a place where the guy training me wouldn't share any special tips or tricks. He gave the base training and anything else I had to figure out myself. I worked extra one night and the third shift manager showed me some magic and shortcuts. The whole place was like this. Everybody hoarded their skills. Anything you said or did spread throughout the plant. Rumors mills, backstabbing and pitting production against the Q.A. Lab. Because of my skillset being an IT guy that could also get dirty in the production area, they called me a unicorn and praised me. Then constantly threatened to let me go - then back to slapping me on the back the next week. 12-16 hour days and - no s**t, seven days a week sometimes. I've never worked in a more toxic environment before, or thankfully, since. I sensed something like that at a place a few years later. I told the manager I'd worked in a toxic environment before and wouldn't again. He put his head on his desk and asked if I would at least stay past lunch and I promised I would. I'll never forget how grateful he looked when I actually came back - but that but the nail in the coffin for me and I put in notice that night.

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    #51

    When I first started at my job before the one I’m working now, I saw tons of very talented, smart, qualified individuals working in roles that they excelled at. Normally you would think that this would be a good indication of a great hiring system and application process. The longer I worked there, the longer those same people stayed right where they were when I was first hired. At first I just thought they liked what they were doing as these people always were very kind and helpful to me, which I appreciated because I was so new and the job really was a lot to learn Then, as time went on and I got more comfortable in my role, those same people also stayed in their roles. Maybe they just have a long time frame before you can be promoted, or so I thought. Then a few people were promoted, but it wasn’t the people you’d think it should have been. Many of them were people who refused to help us newbies out. A lot of them were people I’d hardly spoken to, or straight up didn’t know who they were or that they ever worked there. People who seem to deserve promotions who stay in their roles isn’t always a bad sign. But when 95% of the promotions are people your entire department feels shouldn’t be promoted, it is a sign of a bad workplace. Shortly after those promotions, a lot of people left. Upper management also changed. New policies were put into place that didn’t make sense for the work we were doing. Beloved managers were let go. I left shortly after being told for several weeks that I would be promoted, seeing other, less qualified individuals being promoted ahead of me, and then being told I would be part of a “new department” which would entail less work than I was currently doing (a demotion). People being highly qualified in their roles isn’t always a sign of a bad workplace, but if you look for other indicators, like why so many people seem to excel in their roles but never move up, you can definitely see that it’s often an indicator of a workplace that doesn’t value loyal and hardworking employees.

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    Kharyss
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being good at your job or having amazing technical knowledge doesn’t always equate to being a good manager. Different skill set

    Erica Knapp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Valid point! Despite me seeing this exact same thing happen at a place I used to work, although it's due to mostly nepotism and that's a story for another day lol

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    #52

    Everyone is taking about high turnover, but I think you should check out corporate culture as well. If the culture is toxic, or otherwise incompatible with your lifestyle, you should find out asap. If 60+ hour weeks are the norm, and you want to raise your family, it might not be worth the paycheck/stock options/bonuses that kick in after 3 years.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you hearing this Elon ? You’re workplace is toxic and you’re working people to death.

    #53

    Shoot. I started a new career last spring and a month before graduation I Googled all of the companies in my area related to the field and brought them my resume in person. This one particular company gave me a job offer without even looking at the resume and only asking a couple questions. It went something like this: "So you're getting ready to graduate?" He glances at resume. "Ok, I'm going to hire you. Where are you working now?" *"I'm working at X"* "Alright. I want you to start immediately, can you come in at 6am tomorrow?" *"Well no, I've got to put in my two weeks."* "So you can't start tomorrow? That's fine. I don't even do the hiring, that's what Karen does but she'll be gone for a few days. We usually start people at $x/hr but I can probably get you going at something higher, how's $x/hr sound?" *"Not sure, I've had better offers from a couple other places that called me back."* "Well that's ok too, you can discuss that with Karen. She takes care if wages. I just really need someone to start immediately. **I had a guy walkout last week and my own son quit this morning.**" Right there is when my gut extinct went into overdrive and I got out as soon as I could.

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    #54

    Your bosses bringing in “help” from overseas. Just to help the company get caught up on projects. Yet you are sitting there wondering what projects are you behind on.

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    #55

    I mentioned my mom had surgery and I would be using a vacation day to take her to the doctor for a follow up. The owner of my company asked if she could have any left over pain pills.

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    #56

    Hiring you on the spot. There's a reason and it ain't your skills.

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    #57

    "We're like a startup" is usually bad. Everyone has to wear every hat and is completely overworked

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    #58

    Passive aggressive sticky notes everywhere.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All the way up to framed glossy, similarly passive-aggressive “artwork”. Absolutely yells “Yeah, we’re abusive a******s, and damned proud of it.”

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey, sticky notes aren’t passive aggressive, people are!

    #59

    When they require a 2-week notice for days that you would need off but, once you place the request they say there is no guarantee. Insult to injury is when they schedule you on the day anyway with no reason as to why. They have a lot of people they can call in to cover (my favorite is when my boss does this and then complains that he scheduled too many people.). I drew the line on Christmas day. I requested the day all the way back in October so that I could make the trip over to my mom's house and celebrate with her. Unsurprisingly I was scheduled for the day. I waited until 1am to call off so that he had no time to find anyone for my opening shift.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this. I remember I had to have dental surgery not by a dentist but by an oral surgeon. I scheduled it three weeks in advance but I had to schedule my appointment three weeks in advance too. They kept dinking around and refused to give me confirmation of my two days off (rest the next day after surgery). I had 120 hours of PTO time and on my surgery day, they scheduled me to work, those twats. So I called them and I had an appointment scheduled. Scheduling said I never requested it to them in ample enough time. Emails in writing are gold. And when you have a back and forth chain of follow ups, made the scheduling dept look petty, malicious and vindictive. They were great about working days off for people they liked but not anyone else. Then they tried to call me the second day and ask me to come in because the appointment was the day before, what are you doing today? PRICKS ! (US)

    #60

    - High Turnovers - Bad mangement - Coworkers seem annoyed most times. - When you feel like you have to walk on eggshells so you don't get written up for the littlest things. - When getting trained if you get a coworker that is showing you how to get through the day. I.E places to hide. That's a bad sign. - If you are the quiet type then you will be surprised about what you may hear from the other employees. I've heard so many things. I'm surprised HR isn't busting down the door.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Half of these comments are from people who have anxiety inducing jobs. No wonder our mental health is lacking. Hope none of these managers cause their employees to bring a gun in the workplace.

    Erica Knapp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That last one though lol The quiet one is ALWAYS the one that knows!

    #61

    The owner or CEO doesn't have a long-term business strategy. During an interview, you should **always** ask where they see the company going in both the short and long term future. If they can't at least provide a simple answer, don't accept the job.

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    #62

    Seeing a department head fired on your first day and then having your job description nonchalantly changed completely in a group meeting 2 days later with no private conversation, explanation, or warning.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s scary. When I worked we had to sign a job description list or scope of service paperwork…beware when they don’t have you sign one and they just keep tacking on more and more responsibilities to your job description.

    #63

    Getting chewed out for doing a good job but not going fast enough. Then when you speed up the quality consequentially goes down and then you also get your a*s chewed. WHAT THE F**K DO YOU WANT ME TO DO!!!

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    Na Schi
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same goes if you insist on time to do proper documentation (after the actual task is done) and your manager don't give you time as a new project is rolling in. Only to later scold you why documentation is lacking.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Expected to be a fast at a brand new job as someone who’s been there so long it’s second nature. No. Let me f*****g LEARN what to do first. I promise I will get faster at it with time. Especially if it’s extremely detail oriented. It isn’t that I would take a week to do something that an experienced employee can get done before lunch, but don’t get all pissy with me if it’s turned in—--complete and correct—-at 2pm instead. I mean, do you want it done fast and messy, and have to waste time sending it back several times to be corrected because it’s full of mistakes, or do you want it done neatly, thoroughly, and correctly, as well as checked and doublechecked then checked again, the first time? Some of us take pride in our work being neat, correct and complete before we hand it in, even if it takes an additional hour to check it over first—-and they better give us enough time to do it accurately, or it’s not going to be in their desk until it’s done right. Because it has our name on it. If a boss tries to force us to turn in half-assed work at a moment’s notice, We. Just. Can’t. Do. It.

    Mabelbabel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We had a d******d of a manager who would time people doing a specific task, and every week would put a list on the noticeboard of the quickest team members (the A team) and the slowest (the B team). He rewarded the A team with extra break time, but it was only when he attempted to force the B team to cut short their break and lunch time and work through that people complained. The quicker workers weren't necessarily the best, and some of their work was shoddy, but the dept was told that auditing how much of the A team work had to be repeated because it was rushed would be bullying. But timing staff and putting up slow lists in public wasn't bullying, that was just "teasing" and "having a laugh." The workplace from Hell...

    #64

    They screw up your orientation/begin inconveniencing you before you've even officially started. I showed up for orientation at the 'corner of happy and healthy' only to be greeted by the store manager who cheerfully informed me there's some glitch with my name in the system and I'd have to come back the next day. It was because during the application process, I'd placed a period after my middle initial. So not only did they know this was a common issue that I could fix from home, they let me drive 12 miles instead of just calling me and telling me. I gave it a shot anyways, and proceeded to get scheduled 10 hours a week, after being assured I'd get at least 28, and at a dollar less an hour than what was promised. Got the 'baptized by fire' treatment and was treated like a huge inconvenience when I had a question; they tossed me on pharmacy drive through with next to no training. Got called on almost every one of my days off and despite needing the hours, it was still annoying that they expected me to come in at the drop of a hat. Christmas eve with my family? They were calling wanting me in. Sitting on the couch heartbroken because I'd just had my dog euthanized? F*****g Walgreens calling me. They got mad when I quit without notice after getting a job that paid $6 an hour more.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew it was a Walgreens too. I got paid more working for a mail order pharmacy from home. Even though Humana is the epitome of not caring for patients…Walgreens is the 9th circle of hell.

    sofacushionfort
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knew this was Walgreens before they said it. A few years ago their pharmacists went on strike over the 300 Rc fill per day minimum. I moved to an area with overs a dozen pharmacies in a realistic commute zone, but gave up when they expected applicants to complete separately store by store, including an insulting Briggs-Myers style personality test.

    Megalodon Meg
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for them when I was 16 and they'd have me work until 11pm, then clock out and continue to do whatever they wanted me to do to avoid getting in trouble having me work way past what was legal on school nights lol Then when I brought that and bullying from a supervisor to my manager they told me I was terminated for "causing drama" then proceeded to ask me to finish the rest of my shift that night 🤣

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should have had a sign there that reads: “Abandon hope All Ye Who Enter Here”. Even Dante would agree.

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    #65

    No break room where you can sit down for a little if it's a standing job. Then again I dont have much experience with jobs but this seemed like a red flag to me when I was trying a 2nd job out. The other workers just stood around on their phones when there weren't customers. And as someone who faints easily I can't stand for super long without a break.

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    #66

    Lack of direction, either scope creep or being shifted onto new projects quickly with no direction. People either work all hours of the day or you never see them. Cliques and favourites trump ability and achievements

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    #67

    This may not apply to new workplace. If the contacts you make at work leave and are suddenly making lots of social media posts about how much better life is now. That huge red flag.

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    #68

    Workers are surprised you showed up for your second day.

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    FakeOptimist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not always a red flag : worked as a garbage man ( before wheelie-bins, so picking up bags and throwing them in the truck ) during a high school holiday and was totally beat after the first day. They were pleasantly surprised, and after a month I was the most muscular I ever was before or since.

    #69

    If during the interview they emphasize how things used to be bad, but they are so much better now. It most likely means they have a reputation for a bad work environment, and its probably still a s**t show.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Beware the dumpster fire workplace ! Can someone create a dumpster fire meme ? Lol

    #70

    They have insufficient funds to cash your paycheck.

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    FakeOptimist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or don't pay the pension fund. Glad I had a lawyer then.

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happened to a friend of mine, a LOT. When she left it took well over six months for her to chance down her last patch and even then they didn’t pay her everything she was owed. Some employers are just douche bags.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or just went out of town, and didn’t think anyone needed to be paid—-or just “forgot” to make the bank deposit to cover payroll. In top of which, never reimbursed employees for NSF charges because their f*****g paycheck, that they paid their bills from, bounced because of their worthless a*****e boss. Yep, happened to me. Luckily it was my “moonlighting” job, so I had enough in the bank to cover bills, but a lot of my coworkers weren’t so lucky.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where the hell did you find employment that has a pension fond?

    #71

    Their training you for your specific duties is limited to screaming at you when you have done something wrong.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean non-existent “training”, where you’re just dropped in it to figure it out for yourself. Or the “trainer” assigned to you says “Just tell me what you need to know”, then f***s off somewhere else where you can’t find them. FFS! I’m new here, I don’t know what I need to know. That’s why YOU were assigned to train me.

    #72

    Being asked to create a presentation to justify my "high" wages... They hired me about 4 weeks previously. Lasted 18 months before getting the hell out of that place.

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    #73

    “Unlimited vacation” policy. It means they have structured their policies around the most cost efficient way to lay their employees off (no vacation payouts) and they also will likely frown upon you taking more than 2 weeks without raising eyebrows.

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    Andy
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't speak for other countries where there are additional reasons, but in the UK and Europe when a company says unlimited holiday leave, the reason they do it is because it has been shown to actually reduce the number of holidays taken. If an employee knows they have 25 days holiday a year, they will will usually make sure to take the full 25 rather than miss out. If you have unlimited, majority of people will just take them when they need them, and on average it works out as a lot less

    Frank H
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany you have a minimum of 24 days by law and you have to use it. Employers have to make sure you take it.

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    Howl's sleeping castle
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My last organization actually had a 'Leaves are not rights, they are a privilege.' thing and that you need to earn them and will be granted as per the management's discretion policy. This was the only thing that made me NOT sign a bond with them. I know I need money but if I don't get the time to spend it what is even the point.

    #74

    Vagueness, if you cant get a answer to a simple question then...

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    Na Schi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...means noone wants to take responsibility to make decisions. From my experience this is more an issue for large companies, where the (responsible) managers can send you on a totally useless merry-go-round tour: ending up with still having the same question/problem at hand but now having involved 5+ departments.

    #75

    When you arrive on your first day and there are a lot of recently vacated desks. Or if there are a lot of junior people recently promoted to senior positions that seem a little beyond their reach. At my last job this happened. Got there and my manager "generously" let me pick out any desk I wanted because we recently had several people leave and I could choose from any of those desks. Several of the people I was supposed to be working with directly (and I made sure to screen for competency before accepting the offer) had left so they then introduced me to the people who would be replacing them... and were *way* more junior.

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    #76

    My wife got a job selling art. On the first day they told her to show up "around 9." When she got there, most of the employees were drinking beer. Monday morning. She noped outta there in a hurry.

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    I'm Kid A
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please. For the love of God..... Where do I submit my application? I wake up at 3:55 a.m. and perform 8 hours of backbreaking manual labor that I was never trained for and am honestly not really being compensated for, right now. If I can show up "around 9" and casually drink with my coworkers... the amount I'd put up with is incomprehensible.

    #77

    Somebody once told me to pay attention to the cars parked in the employee lot. Says a lot about A) what the pay is like and 2) what kind of people work there.

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    Tams21
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people like to prioritise spending money and time on their car over other things, others don't. That's the only thing it will tell you about the people that work there.

    Arcady Royzen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    only true to a point... sometimes, people make those purchases because they believe that their future with the company is solid

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It can also tell you who’s making bank and who isn’t. If the cars parked in the assigned management spaces are all high end, and the cars parked in the general lower level employees’ parking lot are s****y or very low end—-and management just cried poor so couldn’t give anyone a raise this year, but the assigned parking spaces all have BRAND NEW high end cars parked in them—-well, draw your own conclusions. If your conclusion is: F*****g lying, cheating suits, thinking they’re some kind of business wunderkind, and patting themselves on the back for figuring out a way of screwing over the hardworking employees, who are the REAL reason the company’s doing so well. Then it’s the same as mine.

    Na Schi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This also is indeed a helpful advice when moving to a new city. Did this every time and always landed in a decent quater. (Okay, I also took other facts into consideration like advice from colleagues, prices...).

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Company was less than Chiro Two!

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wife was getting a chiropractic treatment. I wandered around the parking lot, admiring the owners cars, the names of which I couldn’t even pronounce!

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    #78

    An old friend of mine worked for a certain coffee shop chain. One day he had terrible food poisoning and wasn't at all fit to work. When his dad called him in sick the manager threatened to "write him up." Needless to say, he quit not long after. When I interviewed at that same location, they had to reschedule my interview because the manager had a personal emergency and had to leave. I can kinda understand, but a phone call would've been nice. When I interviewed at a different location, the same thing happened TWICE (see edit). Then when I told them I was 17, they immediately turned me away, despite my birthday being on my application. I love the food and coffee there, but oh my god their management is just atrocious. Edit: I don't think I was very clear. At the second location my interview was initially cancelled because they got busy all the sudden. That's understandable. The other time though, the manager took the day off!

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Starbucks by chance ? The anti-union of coffees ! Lol

    #79

    Just started my new job. I swear to god, one of my new coworkers said, “My one piece of advice? Keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer.” I just blankly stared sort of nodded my head. I don’t think I’m going to enjoy the environment at work...

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    Erica Knapp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imo I wouldn't trust the person that said that to you, on your first day...super sketch of the person, not necessarily the work environment or other employees.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had he just taken over his father’s business? Was his brother recently deceased near a toll booth?

    #80

    If, within the first month, your boss complains to you about your peers. Get the f**k out.

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    #81

    The boss being 30 minutes late to an interview and/or going to the wrong building.

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    FakeOptimist
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends : happened to me once, the bosses secretary came to me and took me for a walk around the company. And he apologized in person.

    #82

    A lot of people telling you who you can trust and distrust, and asking your opinions on people you just met. They'll make it seem like they're just befriending the new person, but really they're trying to draw you into their side of the company's factions (or gauge if they should bring you into their faction), and get some dirt on you to turn others against you if need be. That's not to say there's anything you can do once you see those red flags, except go ahead and figure out how to get out with as little damage as possible.

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Never share personal information about yourself that can be used by anyone against you. Keep that shite out of the workplace.

    #83

    The first thing that's said is "Your only limit is how much you can sell."

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    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well some people are good at selling. Knew a guy so good at this, I swear he could sell a ketchup popsicle to a lady in a white coat.

    #84

    An open floor office with rows and rows and rows of headsets. Edited to clarify: "Rows and rows and rows" of headsets generally means call centre. Yes, there are cool places to work that have open floor offices. No that does not make open floor offices inherently good. No, there are no good call centres to work at.

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    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call centers need, at the very least, to have cubbies dividing work stations. FFS! Even with headsets on—-cheap headsets, of course, never the noise-cancelling ones—-it is f*****g LOUD! Too loud to not get distracted or even hear yourself think, much less hear everything the customer on your phone is saying.

    Tams21
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I spent years working as a waitress, in retail and in call centre ls first while I was a student and then while travelling. While I agree there's no such thing as a good call centre, much depends on who you're working for. I don't think it's any worse than retail or waiting, tbh.

    Howl's sleeping castle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely correct. I have worked in call centres for voice profile. Hated every second of it. Stuck around because the pay was really good and there were massive incentives (sometimes incentives were double the paycheck). However the impact on health is always negative. Never doing it again, no matter the money.

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never ever work a call center. Your entire day is a metric down to the minuscule. How many minutes on the phone, seconds off the phone, minutes to the restroom, don’t be one minute late from lunch or anything. And everything has to be perfectly said per script sometimes. It’s soul sucking.

    Neuridivergent
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Used to work call center. As a customer, if i can hear another employee's voice on their call, i flee.

    Karl Baxter
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call centres are the 21st Century sweatshops - usually overseen by nasty little empire builders who have been given enough power to abuse (if my experience is anything to go by).

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Spot on. Call centers cause physical problems too. People were not meant to be sitting for 8 hours a day and only up for 30 minutes of the day for lunch. Damages your back. Well, that’s what happened to me after many many years working in call centers.

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    Bleble BlebleBla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Strongly agree with the last statement!

    #85

    In an interview I once asked my potential new employers, “What is your company culture like?/Can you describe your company culture?” They responded, “What do you mean?” HUGE red flag. I did end up working there for six months and there was massive turnover but I left on a good note.

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    Karl Baxter
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In many places “Company culture” has taken a quasi religious turn that verges on brainwashing cult-like behaviour. When I worked at a well known UK telephone bank, my warning bells rang loudly during a training day where we were told to close our eyes and think about what the CEO had said in the latest newsletter. This is not a prayer meeting, the CEO is not God and the company “values” are definitely not the f*****g 10 commandments. Run away - quickly!

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with this. We actually had to do company retreats where we had to do a personality test. The test determined our color ! Oh yay !! And then they proceeded to pair us up with our appropriate personality color coworker. If that ain’t some damn b******t. I work for you, I get along with you. I don’t have to adore you.

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    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bulls** t! It’s a damn job, not a cultural retreat!

    #86

    Not being given a copy of the work contract you sign even after asking

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    Frando Bone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then again, many BP posts clearly demonstrate people don't read them anyway.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Contract? You people get contracts?

    Frando Bone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're probably referring to the employee agreement that most companies require you to sign before starting official employment.

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    #87

    One of those inflatable tube guys in the parking lot

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    Eris Kallisti
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-flailing Tube Man? https://youtube.com/watch?v=rHXvMcLrLSY&feature=shares

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    #88

    No personal touches anywhere.

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    #89

    When new coworkers as you "How do you like working for *new manager* so far?" and laugh and laugh. You don't get the joke yet, but you will soon.

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    #90

    A**hole coworkers who give you annoyed look when you ask for help.

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    #91

    People Share 30 Workplace Red Flags That Just Scream "Working Here Would Suck" If all of the employees are young it means there’s no opportunity for advancement.

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    Headless Roach
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm struggling to see the logic in this statement. It can certainly happen in VERY flat organisations. But then, they may be flat for a reason....

    Tams21
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Start-ups are often filled with young people not for the lack of opportunity but because of the risks - they're not necessarily risking a mortgage or feeding their family if it goes bust. There are lots of other reasons why there might be predominantly younger (or older people) in a place of work - the kind of work, the level, the location etc. I don't think it has to have anything to do with lack of advancement and I also don't think it's a red flag.

    Kharyss
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Probably more of a red flag if there are no younger employees, especially in a manufacturing or engineering company. Potential indicator of a lack of investment in training or growing their own talent/succession planning etc