Someone Asked, “What Was Normal 20-30 Years Ago, But Is Considered A Luxury Now?” And Here Are 50 Of The Best Answers
Interview With AuthorDespite the fact that our parents love to talk about just how hard they used to have it when we stop and think, it becomes depressingly clear that a lot of commonplace things have fallen into the luxury category without almost anyone noticing.
So one internet user wanted to hear others' thoughts, so people from all over the net shared the items and experiences that used to be downright regular and are now seen as extravagant. We also got in touch with zombiem00se, who made the original post. So read through and prepare a tissue after you weep for better times, and be sure to upvote your favorites. And don’t forget to comment your own thoughts and examples below.
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Being left the f**k alone.
Buying something and just like, owning it.
Playing a video game without an internet connection.
*Not* having to provide your email address for every single f*****g thing you do.
Honestly just create a second throwaway email - it’s free, you can still use it for verification tasks, and it keeps your actual email off so many lists
Load More Replies...I think I've mentioned this before but I had a furniture store refuse to sell me a chair unless I provided an email address. In the end I gave them a blatantly fake one and they finally caved and let me buy the chair. Just stupid to the nth degree.
Needing the internet to make an appointment, needing a phone app to park your car.ARGH
I've just stopped giving out my emails now. Although I feel kinda left out in online gaming, from what I hear goes on it's a good thing I'm not playing with a bunch of immature, unsupervised brats and immature, raging adults who take gaming way too seriously. Miss the old days when you'd play with your friends and it was all good n' fun.
Most online games you can still play with your friends, and in some ways that's even easier. It depends a lot on the game though. Practically every system I can think of has online friends lists. It just depends whether you can play small group or whether it's like fork-knife where you're crammed in with 30 randoms and your friends.
Load More Replies...I recently bought a ps5 and the last system before that was wii, and while the wii had online capabilities like playing mario kart against other players around the world, but now with the ps5, you put in the game and they tell you they need to download a metric f ton of data and your game will be ready to enjoy in 12 short hours. I couldn't believe it.
That's why I'm using a fake email. I never give my personal/work email to private companies. I have a separate "spam email" for them.
Every business, especially fast food wants you to download their app and only give discounts x and specials via the app. Too bad if you are truly poor and don't even have a phone or you are elderly on a limited income and can't manage all this new technology. The ones who really need the help once again are the ones who miss out.
The last point is very annoying. I needed an anonymous email address. All the suppliers say they have super privacy, no log etc., but the very first thing is a rengistration with your email address or Google/Fb account. Nonsense.
Good quality fabric in clothing. I have clothes from the 90s (and 80s from my mother) that still hold up today. These days, I'm lucky if my shirt isn't saggy and misshapen within a year.
Unfortunately most want very cheap clothes and will not pay lots of money for a T-shirt for example. I also think the fashion industry has moved their business to countries where the production costs are way lower - so they can profit more. All we have to do as a consumer is NOT buy too much crappy quality and not be a slave to fashion. It's a simple choice. Even on a small budget you can have a few good pieces of clothing and mix and match.
Sorry but even expensive brands like Patagonia take no responsibility for who is making their clothes. They ask very high prices and claim to be honest made but even their clothes are made by slaves in China.
Load More Replies...Agreed. A lot of fabrics these days are horrible, eg viscose, ( doesn’t breathe and pills). Crinkled cotton that snags easily, pills and fades. Polyester, another fabric that doesn’t breathe, retains odours readily, especially sweat. It is because consumers either don’t know the difference or cannot afford it or want to pay less while companies want to increase profits year after year. Specifically there are now websites catering to ‘one off’ wearings garments! Shein in particular. Things are designed to wear out, poorer fabrics, fast fashions. Better to buy secondhand if good quality clothes are unobtainable.
I like viscose because l don't like ironing. There's better and worse quality viscose as well. The not breathing is not really a problem for the garments l use.
Load More Replies...I think this is mainly women's clothing. You guys seem to be given nylon and polyester everything. If it's not cotton, I'm not wearing it.
I bought mens shorts and a mens shirt yesterday at an putlet store. I am so in love. Good length shorts and sturdy material. It wont work for everything due to bust and bum but these pieces are great.
Load More Replies...This is true, but if you want quality, you have to be prepared to pay a bit more. In Europe, shops like Zara, Mango and Primark, H&,M and their even cheaper offshoots specialise in "fast fashion" - cheap, attractive clothing designed to only last you a season. If you want clothes that will last longer, you need to pay more. I love C&A, which is always more expensive but better quality, but even they are starting to sell clothes that are a bit cheaper, but don't last. Marks & Spencer is usually good, but is more expensive again. But in Spain, even paying more (I'm looking at you, El Corte Inglés!) doesn't always guarantee good quality. Nowadays, you have to be prepared to buy less but better if you want clothes to last.
CundA is not really expensive... what annoys us a lot is Lands End and Eddie Bauer. The sweatshirts and hoodies weigh half compared to 10 years ago and their seams are done worse
Load More Replies...Clothes and "fashion" are one of the biggest environmental problems. How many clothes are literally worn 2-3 times and then thrown away.......? Vanity and wanting new things all the time is a far worse environmental issue than people think, but all we go on about are diesel cars......
That is a valid point. Yet, if companies would make better quality, we wouldn't have to throw it away after 3 times wearing it. I have had shirts having holes in them after only being in the washer (following washing instructions) once - not have been in the dryer.
Load More Replies...True. In the 90s I started to buy T-Shirts from a company who made special clothing for construction workers. Good, solid shirts in plain colors, 100% cotton. Over the years they went from a sturdy, comfortable, soft fabric to a see-through laugh. I still wear the old ones, washed a gazillion times. The new ones get holes within a months. Not buying them any more. Same for sailing stuff - less quality for a not any more reasonable price
Yup. My mom has given me some of her items she never wears anymore and some of them still look as though she just bought them, though they are ten-plus years old!
I buy online and get great long lasting clothes. Now I will make my own. I feel in a conundrum. Slave labour in sweat shops against making my own. Plus landfills are full of discarded clothes, due to short life span and retailers throwing out unsold items.
Calling a company and getting a *person* on the other end of the phone. *edit: Thanks for the awards kind people! I really didn't expect this to blow up like this.*
Also getting a person who speaks clear enough English or your designated language. India service reps take the cake! Sorry!
Those Indian reps speak fluent English, and very clearly by their regions standards. what you mean is someone who speaks your accent and dialect. As someone who worked in a call center, it sucks knowing you speak the same language and the only reason you can't get something across is your accent
Load More Replies...I have called what is euphemistically referred to as 'Customer Service' at the least worst ISP and was told by an automated line that, "Technical support offices are now closed." The line disconnected. Call was made on a weekday, during the day... Also when DSL was down, have called customer service to be told by automatic message, "You can access your account on-line." Company also has user unfriendly site to pay bill online. Again, we have had WORSE ISPs.
Wonder if it is mine? “Our hold times are 60 minutes right now. Please call later.” click. No option to wait or offer to call me back
Load More Replies...It takes so much effort (and multiple attempts) just to get past Amazon's customer service chatbot. And the chat bot isn't that capable - it just repeats the FAQ. I got stuck in the chat loop when trying to get a refund on a 1 litre tub of construction-strength PVA glue that had split during delivery. It kept telling me to post it back to them to get my refund. When I finally managed to talk to an actual person, they agreed that posting it again, when it had already leaked through the original cardboard box, wasa not terribly good idea, and might end up with glue soaked cardboard stuck in places no one wanted it. AI colliding with human malicious compliance is going to lead to some real doozies of unintendend consequences.
Comcast chatbox is bad too. They keep overcharging me. The chatbox keeps telling me i can view my bill online.
Load More Replies...Its either robotic that can't understand you, or foreign with accent or connection that you can't hear or understand them...
The person is a man who calls you to change the company that offers TV, phone network and Wi-Fi because they have the most convenient and cheapest plan for you. This is a person who is alive and you have to get rid of them away as soon as you hear their voice.
Load More Replies...Last week we had to contact our local council/local government, after waiting 40 minutes someone eventually answered and then cut the call, so had to go through it all again, press 1 2 3 4 5 6 for this and that service, eventually got through again and spoke to someone, while transferring the call they cut us off again. This has got worse since lockdown.
I hate not being able to talk to someone!! They can txt you for a hour but they aren't able to talk to you!! Sucks
Bored Panda got in touch with zombiem00se and they were kind enough to answer some of our questions. We wanted to know what prompted them to make the thread in the first place. "What inspired the question was at the gas pump, and I had gotten a small bonus from work of about $50 so I knew I'd be able to just let the pump go without having to watch the meter. Then it struck me that people used to be able to do that all the time, just fill their gas tank without worry, and nowadays the normal thing to do is watch it like a hawk so you could also afford groceries for the week and wondered what else could this same mentality be applied to."
We also wanted to hear their thoughts on what was ultimately causing so many things to become unaffordable. "I think the cause is due to the same thing that's been said many times over now, the cost of living has not kept up with the rate of inflation. The rich get richer by keeping the poor poor. We were told to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps, but those saying that were given boots made of nice Italian leather that was custom fit for them, while the rest of us were given bricks of lead...and the straps are rattlesnakes....very angry rattlesnakes. I'm a millennial, and with millennials, there's of course the same tired participation trophy joke, but the ones complaining about it are the ones who gave the trophies out in the first place and then blamed us for them, all the while they have everything handed to them."
Single income families buying a home
Oh. First house I ever lived in my parents bought for $38,000 (NZD), and sold in 1990 for $95,000. It is now worth $1.2 million. That's $100,000 for the house and $1.1 MILLION for the land. It's not even a large plot of land. When my parents bought it they subdivided and sold off more than half the land. That was 41 years ago. It's in a pretty cruddy area of Auckland. Kind of place where it was getting unsafe to walk around in daylight hours when I was a kid, but it's 104% worse now than when it was the 90s (we moved out in 1990).
Are there really areas in NZ where it’s truly unsafe to walk around during the day?
Load More Replies...One of the reasons is banks interfering in real estate. You have "investment groups" buying up property, and then just SITTING on it to drive up prices. The problem is that you now have cities with a considerable amount of property that is owned ... but nobody actually lives there. It's all vacant property. See, they're trying to do with property what the diamond companies have done with diamonds. Hoard it, sit on it, drive up the price, then sell. The problem with housing is that it's unsustainable: it's a bubble waiting to explode, and honestly: I think it's about to go.
Used cars cost more than our first house on 2 acres. 5 people lived in it comfortably
Its not the price of the homes, btw. Prices of homes adjusted for inflation are not that much different. The difference, is that wages have not kept up with inflation. Companies make a much higher profit and share much much less of that profit with their employees, plain and simple.
Makes me sad talking to my young colleagues, hearing what they have to go through. My parents gave me the deposit, granted, but I was able to buy a two bedroom flat/apartment, in London, on a teacher's salary.
The first house I lived in from 1986 to 2000, my parents sold for $225k, right now it is valued at $1.6mill
New furniture made out of real wood
This is still possible, but most people don't like the price and waiting that comes from well-crafted, hand-made furniture. Chat to your local carpenter, they're worth their weight in gold, our coffee table, book shelf, and tv stand were all made by hand over 10 years ago and with a bit of polishing once a month still look brand new.
So you are saying that this was normal 20-30 years ago but now it is considered a luxury? Like the title of the post?
Load More Replies...Sometimes I think I want new furniture but all my furniture came from my parents and is all solid wood Drexel Heritage furniture when it was made in the USA. Still in very good condition. As the saying goes they don't make 'em like that anymore, so I'm not giving it up. 😉
We are so thankful for all our inherited furniture-me especially since I was an only child. Dressers, dining room set, china cabinets, side tables, bedside tables, coffee tables.and more. They are all wood and built like tanks. Sure it's all eclectic and from numerous styles and eras, but so what?
Load More Replies...On the other hand my aunt was moving recently and the wooden furniture was so heavy:/
Especially dressers that hold up when a kid climbs on it instead of falling over on them >:( (I’m looking at you, IKEA)
I found an old oak coffee table with matching end tables at a thrift store for $150. They were beat up a little, but with some work they look beautiful today.
Second hand is your friend here. As long as you aren't addiction to fashion (in which case, there's no hope) there will be something you can give a little TLC or maybe slightly change. My dining table was put out for the bin men to take, I rescued it, 1930s I would guess, only needed cleaning.
Load More Replies...Furniture doesn’t have to be new. We’ve upcycled many pieces in our house. Our second hand dining suite cost approx NZ$220. The table was excellent quality so didn’t need anything done to it. We painted the chairs as the wood colour was awful and not the best quality. They weren’t original to the table. Hubby reinforced the seats as the strength was questionable. I sewed the chair backs fabric. Imagine a sleeve that goes over a back. There was quite a bit of faffing about but worth the trouble. Then we covered the seats. We used 6 different fabrics and deliberately mixed and matched. They look f’ing awesome. All in all we might have spent maybe NZ$400 but the equivalent might have cost a couple of thousand.
We are losing trees on Earth too far, possibly that is the reason furniture is not made of real wood anymore.
Items not requiring a subscription each month
I do the free streaming. I get lots of old sitcoms, lots of older movies, documentaries, news. I could get sports if I were interested. There are several cat channels for Bouche. We can listen to pretty much any music. If a specific movie is on only one paid stream, well most of them offer free trials. We're both happy with our TV options.
I can't afford to pay cable or anything like that. I'm deciding which Free streaming service to choose from. Any suggestions???
Load More Replies...Car companies starting to require a subscription to use preinstalled services is ridiculous. Satellite radio is one thing, but to pay extra for the use of heated seats you already paid for is a joke. Come on Mercedes.
What? Paying for the use of heated seats?! Is that for real? :/
Load More Replies...To be fair you did have to pay like 100+ dollars a month for cable (not to mention you usually had to pay for device setup) so if you have a couple of subscriptions to streaming services it's still cheaper
It's not just streaming services though. They make sense to be subscription based. It's software like Adobe. Heck even the Microsoft Solitaire app on the phone is subscription based. And there are literally physical items coming with subscriptions now. BMW started selling cars with an $18/month subscription for heated seats. And that's just the start.
Load More Replies...The rich get richer by owning debt and a subscription is a lifetime of debt.
True enough for software/games, but the photo is a bad example: streaming services have always been a subscription service. Well, 20-30 years ago there were no streaming services but there were premium / cable TV options and they were all on paid subscriptions, and a damn sight more expensive than Netflix too.
I recently downloaded a game app where you draw lines in the sand for your little balls to follow. There are hazards, and some of the levels are difficult. You get an ad at the end of each round. To subscribe, the devs want "just" $6.99 a WEEK!
Load More Replies...I splurged. But, I share my Netflix with a friend and, my daughter and I share Brit Box and Disney+. We don't live in the same country. Works well for us. And Tubi is free (with ads) and has great stuff.
I subscribe to things, but I look at the date when they are going to charge me, put it in my calendar, and set a reminder 3 days ahead. It's 2023. Common sense.
I go back and forth on the software thing. On the one side, a subscription ensures you have a constantly up-to-date version, usually allows licenses on multiple machines and has a mechanism for sharing your work via the cloud. When you buy software, you tend to keep using it and using it, even after its no longer safe or secure and then you are putting your data at risk but you do own it. I think it comes down to value. I dont mind paying the adobe $30 a month and the Microsoft $99 or the google $150 every year. Everything usually works and when it doesn't they will listen to me complain. That said, I feel like there should be a balance between the 2 but I know there wont because money. Now car feature subscriptions like Teslas nonsense or Mercedes/BMW I dont agree with. Ill hack the s**t out of those cars.
In general, when people stop and ask “Why are things so damned expensive now?” Current events tend to dominate the discussion. The global supply chain was hit by a jump in fuel costs, as a result of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. This pushed the price of most things up because most things are not made within walking distance of your home or nearest store. And thank goodness for that, living next to a factory or manufacturing plant seems more hassle than it would be worth.
Regardless, the effect is that the cost of transportation went up. And since everything needs transportation, everything got more costly. And just to hit us when we are down, droughts and disease hit food supplies around the world, limiting supply. Since most of us still need to eat, a reduction in supply without a change in demand tends to mean an increase in cost. Hope this revisiting of econ 101 didn’t trigger any unhappy memories.
That being said, inflation is starting to ease off in many places, so perhaps eggs won’t be a gourmet ingredient like truffles and lobster for long. But, as this article mentions, there are still some things that refuse to get cheaper and have gotten so expensive over the years that most people have given up ever buying them. Yes, we’re talking about housing. The simple answer is that supply hardly meets demand at all, as homeowners aren’t selling and interest rates are pretty brutal for the average worker.
getting things repaired instead of buying new.
Or doing your own repairs. My dad did repairs on our appliances himself. Nowdays a lot of stuff is made in such a way that repairing it yourself is physically impossible even if you wanted to.
I’d actually disagree for most things because now we have YouTube tutorials and online part searches, though they do seem to have designed them to be harder to repair. (Ie more $$$ for the repair tech, hoping you just buy a new one).
Load More Replies...Planned obsolescence. Stuff is made to fail after a time now. So you have to get a new one.
That's the thing. If you fix it, chances that it breaks again soon are very high. And getting it fixed is so expensive it's often not worth it to get it fixed.
Load More Replies...Canada is working on a right to repair legislation, but apparently there's going to be a lot of exemptions for manufacturers. So, we'll see if that actually improves anything or not.
So much better with phone you could whip the back off, change a battery and put the back in place again or even change the whole phone cover.
Getting quality pairs of shoes resoled instead of tossing them and buying new—-especially if the brand changed their manufacturing and what was once lasting quality is now cheap s**t that falls apart the first time you wear it.
Apple is the WORST about this. I had a 5 year old iMac. They make them now so that they're not only really difficult to open, there's a shock danger even if it's unplugged. Burned out the graphics card. Just wanted a new graphics card. They refused. Too old. Wanted me to buy a whole new computer. Just send it back, get a few hundred dollars credit, and buy another. Oh I sent it back. Then had my local computer store build me an old fashioned tower.
I do this. My MBP was originally 512 GB / 4 GB, now 2 TB / 16 GB. Still beautiful, still works, 10 years later. Just pulled the CDROM drive and replaced with SSD. Battery probably needs replacing though.
Just let me change the battery! For God's sake! Just the freaking battery!
Growing up even toasters went to the repair shop. Scissors got sharpened not tossed.
Not being expected to be reachable 24/7
You cannot be expected to be reachable 24/7. If someone says otherwise they are not your friends or not the right fit for work.
I don't think it's necessarily bad to be reachable 24/7 for friends/family. If they're a friend or family and ringing at 3am then it's an emergency and I'd want to know. Maybe other people have friends that would randomly just call when drunk but I know mine don't abuse the privilege.
Load More Replies...If you ever had a job where you were expected to answer every call on a multi line phone AND face customers AND finish detailed work completely and correctly while being constantly interrupted, under threat of bad reviews or firing, you end up f*****g despising phones. When I’m not working, the only calls I answer are from family and friends—-and even then I decide if I want to talk or let it go to voicemail, especially if it’s late or I am decompressing from work. I love being incommunicado when I am not in the mood to socialize. Same goes for social media. I may comment on sites like BP, but I am not on Facebook or any other social media site. Tried Facebook years ago, to stay in touch with family, but it got overrun by teenage relatives and their friends, so I quit. I only had innocuous picture of pets on it anyway. Oddly, when I was a teenager, I was very very social, went out with friends and/or talked on the phone to them constantly. Yeah, the s**t we have to put up with under ridiculous and unnecessary pressure at work can totally ruin stuff we used to enjoy, can’t it?
Your job sounds like a nightmare. Though just because I feel like it would be a nightmare doesn't mean you might enjoy it. I do hope you enjoy it.
Load More Replies...I trained friends and family well regarding that - I’ll answer in my own time. If it’s hysterically important; send me a text and tell me that, I’ll respond to emergencies. Otherwise, I’ll answer when it goddamned suits me. I also won’t expect any different of them, which seems like a huge relief to almost everybody.
I practice 7/24 successfully. I literally swapped the numerator and denominator. Henceforth, I will only be available for everyone on a daily maximum of 7 times a day in 24 hours.
Thank you! My husband and mom get so frustrated with me when I forget my phone and I am like "hey, remember when your phone had to stay home because it was attached to the wall, and we still all survived? Having smart phones does makes things a lot easier, but it is nice to just be out and not connected to a device and who is calling or texting or emailing.
I will only be reachable 24/7 if I have a job that requires it. Otherwise, I'll answer or get back to you when I feel like it. I constantly tell my mother to leave a message saying what she wants so I don't worry that something is wrong. She then constantly says I don't leave a message cuz I don't want to worry you. SO I call back after 3 calls from her. I can't win.
I'm not. We can choose to not carry a phone with us everywhere, or put it on mute, not look at the screen. It's a choice and unless you draw the line, it will keep getting rubbed out
Ads only on TV or the newspaper or radio. Now it's ads EVERY-F*****G-WHERE. YouTube: 1 minute video. Two 15 second ads. Unskippable. Streaming service you pay for: watch promos for shows we want you to watch before you watch the show you want to watch. Music service: pay premium for no ads. Random website: ads + tracking cookies FOR ads. Social media: ad every 3-4 posts + collecting data to show you MORE ads + targeted ads. Amazon: here are some sponsored products you might like.
I'm so tired of everything revolving around ads and collecting data to show you ads that are catered to you. It's like a freaking hell loop.
Sadly that's how free services work. They need to be monetized somehow. The issue for me is when do the ads become excessive. And with ads on mobile, forcing you to click through to the purchase page by dodgy close button tricks.
As it turns out, this can actually become affordable with a beauty called the adblocker. with it, you'll just about never see ads again!
Some sites whine if they can tell you're using it. This adds to the enjoyment.
Load More Replies...I saw a post, probably here, about someone wanting a video of the Heimlich maneuver. There were 30 seconds of ads first. The person trying to watch the video sent feedback that the choking person had died. YouTube suggested that to avoid similar problems, the person might want to buy a subscription. I don't know if it were real or a joke post. I hope the latter, but you never know.
I think that was a hypothetical joke-tweet. The response from YouTube's social media team may have been real.
Load More Replies...I was deeply shocked when I was listening to a non-commercial (?!) classical music radio channel recently and to my horror I heard commercials. Something is irrevocably ruined when a flood of irritation ruined my soft and fluffy bubble and the last ad-free safe haven was taken away from me.
Love the fact that theres an ad immediately after this post, just to prove the point.
I gave up watching "regular tv". A 1 hour show has 25 mins of Adds. YouTube is full of Adds too & Surveys. No such thing as a continuous music play list unless you want to listen to 500 mins of Adds between every single song. North American living at it's finest; pathetic isn't it 😕
I just miss when the ads were about cool stuff, like toys or breakfast cereals or Pepsi. Now, it's almost all about insurance companies, cellular plans, and pharmaceuticals.
When it comes to finding a place to live, it’s really the worst of both worlds. Housing is expensive, and renters are feeling a similar pain as landlords and ladies raise rent to offset the cost of living increases. Which, you guessed it, increases the cost of living for tenets. On average, renters can expect a 15% jump in rent costs, though this will vary aggressively from building to building and area to area.
Being able to dance and have a good time and not have a chance it will end up recorded and put on social media.
This is what I miss about living in Germany. If someone posts a video or photo of you online without your consent you can press charges. As a result, it just isn't done there.
I am so, so glad I was a teenager juuust before social media really got big. I think about it often, actually, my gratitude for that fact knows no bounds. The absolute HORROR.
OMG right!! I could not imagine living my teenage years with prevalent social media. I think the kids know don't know any different, so it is the norm for them, but for those of us right in the cusp of the internet and social media, it is terrifying.
Load More Replies...I am such a shameless person that I dance if it pleases me and if it amuses others all the way to the internet, it doesn't matter, I really don't care at all. Life is too short to be ashamed. I came, danced and gave the middle finger. Besides, when I slipped after sipping wine in the fountain would have been much more viral meme material.
People's employers don't always support you having fun. What BS!!
Load More Replies...Videos of me dancing are not permitted to be seen by the general public. I'm told it's some EPA thing.
Disable tagging on facebook and people can't tag you in the footage/image. And tell your friends to delete images/videos containing you.
I do so miss those days! Thank goodness my parents didn't ever have any hard evidence!
Or dancing and having a good time doesn't mean you want to get hit on/harassed while having fun.
Farmer's markets. You used to be able to go down and get fruit and vegetables cheaper than the grocery store. Now it seems like they charge 3x more than stores do.
I would rather pay the same or a little bit more towards the farmer than to a huge company.
Must me nice to have the luxury of that budget choice.
Load More Replies...In our market here in France, the only produce seller who actually grows the stuff he sells is much cheaper than the others, who buy from wholesellers. Besides, he doesn't have to pay for transport, as his farm is close by. Only sells what's 'in season", though, so no tomatoes in winter (but they're worth waiting for), and nothing that doesn't grow in our climate. Currently he's got strawberries to die for but you have to get to the market first hing if you want some. At 9, they're all gone.
I have a similar experience living in Türkiye. Local pazars are ridiculously cheap for higher quality due to having lower overhead costs.
Load More Replies...Some of the farmers do go grow their own quality stuff that I will find worth the cost, but some are just reselling stuff from the store now.
I saw that once at a market. The stall owner grabbed a sealed plastic bag of carrots and emptied it into a box in his stall ... Never went there again.
Load More Replies...And some of them look like they hit the grocery stores first, then resell the store produce for a markup, as if they just picked it from their garden.
I’m going to the farmer’s market tomorrow. Because I am low income, I get food stamps, my state has a double up snap program where I tell them I want to spend 10 and they charge me that ten but give me 20 to spend. I love it. Almost as much as I love local fruits and veggies!
Over here, farmer's markets tend to be a liiiiittle cheaper than supermarket/grocery store prices, but way better quality in comparison. At least that's my experience.
This is ignorant. The cheap stuff at the stores are heavily subsidized. Farmers eat costs on fruit like plums for example if the store has issues. Apples have been sitting in a cooler since last harvest and even in the autumn you could be _easily_ eating last years apples. Supporting small farmers really is the way to go
Owning the software you purchased.
I've given up on anyone who wants subs. Microsoft and Adobe in particular. They've been replaced with GIMP, Inkscape, and OpenOffice respectively. P**s off with your bloodsucking business model.
Alas, OpenOffice is no more. There is something similar called LibreOffice. I just let all of my Microsoft and Adobe subscriptions expire, and will definitely download it later. Thanks for your post; I didn't even know that there were these alternatives available.
Load More Replies...I used to own the Microsoft office suites. Then I needed to do a factory reset on my old laptop. Wiped all the Microsoft programs off my pc. Since my aunt gifted and set up my pc for me, she used an email address I didn't know about and she has since been, unrelatedly, ostracized from the family, I have no way of retrieving any info to get those programs back. Microsoft wants subscriptions now. It's just not worth it.
I don't agree. I have a very small graphic design business. Before subscription I couldn't afford even the three program Adobe suite. If I used the old software I had, the printers I used wouldn't accept the older files. As soon as subscriptions became available, I could pay $60 a month and have not only the three programs I use everyday but all the programs which allows me to offer sound and video to my customers as well as print. Without the subscription model, I was too small to afford to keep up with software changes.
most people dont disagree with having the choice to do this however it is this forced sales model that people dont like
Load More Replies...This is so infuriating. I have Office Small Business Edition 2003 and Adobe Acrobat from the early 2000's and I swear I'm going to make them work forever.
Back in '07, I bought a lifetime subscription license to Malwarebytes for $25. I wish I bought several other licenses for that price because they stopped allowing you to use a license on multiple devices. Now I'm paying another 90 bucks every two years for other computers I have it on.
I'm probably violating some obscure BP policy by saying this, but subscription software can be cracked to bypass the subscription requirement.
And of course, if you are paying more for rent (and eggs) you probably have less to save to make a down payment on a home. This has not stopped prices from continuing to rise. In 2021, the median US house was $369,800, a pretty penny. In 2022? $423,600, which is an entire 53.8 thousand more, for those curious about the math. Of course, wages have generally not risen to match inflation, so the buying power is running in the opposite direction of prices, making it harder and harder for millennials and Gen Z to ever picture owning a home.
Legroom on an airplane
No. Flight prices and fees have continuously increased for 30 years, while service quality and comfort have decreased. What planet are you living on?
Load More Replies...The first time I flew was in January 1979. LAX to RDU. United Airlines. The plane wasn’t full, and I ended up with a row of seats to myself. I put the armrests down, and my legs up on the other two seats. The meal was sirloin tips, and served hot, with dessert too. Unlimited beverages, of course. Though people could still smoke everywhere, on that flight it wasn’t bad. Everyone, including myself, was dressed up because flying was still a special occasion back then. Flight Attendants were very poised and attentive—-they even gave me a little United Airlines flight bag as a souvenir. Used it for traveling until it fell apart decades later. If you were a child, you could visit the pilots in the cabin if you wanted and get little “future pilot” wing pins for it (I was 18 and not interested). Though I now know a lot of that, especially distracting pilots, is a horrible and incredibly dangerous idea, back then we didn’t know any better, and thought it was cool. And yes, there was plenty of legroom, even in economy. Because air travel back then was relatively expensive, flights weren’t as overbooked as they are now, so they didn’t have to load planes up with as many seats as they can—-yet still leave ample room for business and first class passengers—-so they can stuff us peasants into economy like sardines. Remember, my cross country flight left LAX only about 60% to 70% full of people dressed up for a special occasion and following proper etiquette on their best behavior, not jam packed with loud, unwashed, sloppy, uncouth people in their pajamas, acting like they’re at home, and encroaching upon everyone else’s space. In economy. Bet it’s way nicer in Business and First Class, which most of us can’t afford.
Did you know that the reason why on an air plane you only get half/no window is because airlines keep pushing the seats up so more people can be on a flight so the airline gets more money 🤯🤯
There is still leg room, but they charge you extra for it. Book your own seat. Each booking will be an additional cost.
The legroom you get is minimal at best. Still risk your safety by reclining your seat, even if done politely.
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household products that didn't break within the first few years of use. My grandma had the same fridge from 1993 for a good while before deciding to swtich to a newer, bigger one 2 years ago, yes, it broke within those 2 years; my mom's wedding cookware is still going strong 25 years later, but whenever she needs new pans they start flaking teflon into the food within a few months
Yup, bought a house that was built in 95 and giant built in fridge freezer in kitchen. Refrigerant leak caused it to start to fail, cheapest replacement for same dimensions was 9k+ USD. Did some research and found that R12 refrigerant was outlawed around the same time, so guessing contractors who built house got this massive unit on the cheap. Ended up hiring a commercial firm to do a full sealed system replacement for about $2500. Best decision I could have made I think.
That's why planned obsolescence needs to be outlawed. Companies make things cheaper so you have to buy more
If they're genuinely cheap it's not so much of a problem. It's when the product remains fairly expensive. Take fridges as an example. If it cost $100 to buy a new fridge I wouldn't be so upset if it died in 2 years. But if it's $1000, or even $500 you'd expect it to last longer. This is where warranty rules need to change. I don't know about the rest of the world but there is a thing called consumer guarantees and reasonable life. Slight oversimplification but basically the more expensive a product is the longer it should last. So this is essentially a warranty above and beyond express warranty. https://www.qld.gov.au/law/laws-regulated-industries-and-accountability/queensland-laws-and-regulations/selling-your-products-and-services/guarantees-warranties-and-refunds/providing-a-remedy-to-meet-guarantee-standards
Load More Replies...I once rode an elevator with Gillette executives and listened to them discuss the planned obsolescence of a new product coming out. I was young and appalled.
We just had our 22nd anniversary. We got a big Rival crockpot for a wedding gift. We just had to replace it because the ceramic pot finally broke and we can’t find a replacement. That’s the catch. The unit might still work forever, but the parts get discontinued and/or they change the shape just enough so it won’t fit older units, like big oval crockpot ceramics that fit an old unit, or coffee carafes for older model drip coffeemakers that would still be useable if you could find a glass carafe to fit it. F*****g shame, you know?
The nascent Right to Repair laws dictate that manufacturers must continue to make replacement parts for their products. I don't know how many years they must do this, but it's a promising development.
Load More Replies...I had a deep freezer that was passed on from mil and it finally quit working after 35 years. The new one lasted seven years and a compressor replacement would have cost the same as a new freezer.
Amazing, isn't it? My mom's deep freezer lasted 51 years before finally needing to be replaced last year!
Load More Replies...Worked with a fellow who sold switch components in an earlier career. According to him, switch contactors were once plated with sufficient metals to last many years. Then the manufacturers cut back on the thickness to the point where the contactors burn out in maybe a fifth of the time. This is now standard practice in industry. And that is only one example of why appliances die so quickly.
Yep, just had that happen this morning, the product....a hose pipe, split along its length thanks to just turning on the water......Nothing like a refreshing cold shower outdoors first thing.
It depends very much what you buy. All the appliances in my kitchen are 16 years old and work just fine. Only had to replace the washing machine last year, which was older than the kitchen. The dishwasher did need a new control board a little while back, but it was fixable for a lot less than the price of a new one. Most appliances come with warranties longer than 2 years, so getting a replacement or fix out of the manufacturer shouldn't be a problem.
I wished all companies made the replacement parts for such a long time! My friend has a washer-dryer bought mere 3 years ago, when it broke the repair guys told her it needs the control panel replacement, but it was no longer available to buy anywhere. She found some electronics afficionado who fixed the panel, but he's one of two guys in our 800k people town who does such repairs. Other mechanics know how to exchange the broken part for a new one, so they are limited by the availability of spare parts.
Load More Replies...Our O'Keefe and Merritt stove stays with this house forever. Built in 1978, works just as well as the day it was installed.
paying no more than 30% of your income in rent
And the mortgage company just raised amount I have to pay. Because of an shortage of escrow from last year.
Me too. And they raised it again for property tax increase. I am so glad we bought back before prices went insane and my husband and I both got promotions since, because we can still comfortably afford the increases, but it still sucks to have to pay $200 more a month out of no where
Load More Replies...30% of your income is relative. I make $1000 a month on SOC SEC. I pay 30% of my income. That leaves me 700 for everything else. I'm drowning. I've got a car but can't drive because I can't afford car insurance.
Right now, due to a disastrous plan to "revive" an already rebounding economy through the Federal reserve buying assets, mortgage rates are very high, and housing costs are at a peak. This MAY not be a great time to buy. But please speak to a loan officer about how to buy a house. I didn't buy because when I was a kid I learned very falsely that you need 20% down in the U.S. The truth is that a long time ago, they created mortgage insurance. It's expensive, but dirt cheap compared to throwing your entire rent check away every month. If you can even afford 2.5% down (including borrowing from other sources!), you probably can afford a home. Once you lock in a price, over the years your costs stay the same while rent soars... and you may well pay less even to start... and 30 years later, you can sell for much more than you bought, funding your convalescence.
FHA loans you can buy w $1000 down. There's also WHEDA, Fannie May loans. Ask your bank.
Load More Replies...That was the recommendation touted but it wasn't often possible.
Oh no but capitalism is good! 🙄🙄🙄🙄 It's sick how these rednecks suck up to the rich is ridiculous
I'm looking for a place that only cost one job to pay for rent.
And while we are on the topic of annoying expenses, many of the items here boil down to the incredibly annoying modern trend of “services and subscriptions.” Remember paying for things once? Unlike mortgages and inflation rates, in many ways, consumers only have themselves to blame for companies charging us monthly. Over the last ten years, subscription services have grown by roughly 300%, meaning that no matter how much we might dislike them, enough people will happily pay month to month.
Retirement plan built-in to your job.
I was just reading that the inventor of the 401k regrets it. He wanted it to be a supplement to a pension, not a replacement.
Yes, and FDR created social security for the same reason. It wasn't supposed to be your only retirement income.
Load More Replies...Thankfully I have a pension plan. However the newer employees don't at my workplace.
I am grateful that my company has a retirement plan and I will retire with a pension. I know how rare that is nowadays.
Not in the US. The “improvement” of 401k plans had companies eliminate pensions in the US.
Load More Replies...Gawd I'm old. I have a smallish pension from my job with State government.
Yes, I was lucky to retire from a place with company pension. But we also had a union.
Being able to afford having only one person working in a relationship
Even with two people ,we are barely making it, from paycheck to paycheck.
Or, making it but then something happens and you spend a good year trying to catch back up. We had our main water line to the house break, and of course, homeowners insurance wouldn't cover it. It cost $30,000 to replace (it went under our driveway, so we had to tear that up and repave it) and it put us from actually being ahead, with saving, lots of available credit, to living paycheck to paycheck, no savings and maxed out credit.
Load More Replies...We are a 1-income family of 5 and live comfortably; own a home and have decent savings. We also live in a US state where the cost of living is super low. (Kansas)
I am curious as what the person does and what the average cost of living is where you are? I know there are affordable places to live, but no offense,I would not want to live in Kansas. I have nothing against Kansas, it is just to flat, landlocked, and red for me.
Load More Replies...Yeah, but what if that relationship falls apart? Then you're left with probably years of not working, ergo a time in which no money was put into your pension plan - then, when you retire, that money is missing. Got this from an interesting input about money management and being financially independent (primarily focused on women, though men could participate too). It's partly the reason why I don't really see myself flat-out not working, though perhaps if I do get a partner, I could do part- instead of full-time... (Living is expensive, right up till the end)
We live on 1 income. I am very blessed my partner does make a great salary, but we also moved to a state that has lower taxes, downsized from a 4200sqft house to a 2800sqft house. We are hardly suffering, our house is beautiful, we have a little pool, we live in a fantastic town. We have worked really hard to get here, taking promotions that weren’t ideal, working lots of hours (he still does and a ton of travel). That said, I know I am privileged and I don’t take that for granted.
One person being at home while the other worked was more of a traditionalist lifestyle, or one parent had no choice due to having a young family, taking care of ailing parents, etc. It wasn't all relaxing and doing the odd chores every now and then. It was daily housework that was expected to be done with high standards. If that person was in a good relationship they could've been content and not fret too much. But too often these housespouses were in abusive relationships. If one thing was out of place or not cleaned then all hell would be unleashed. Couples were not all happy couples. Divorce was more taboo and a heavier financial risk. So, some married couples stayed together in bitter marriages. There was still resentment in relationships with one spouse working and the other not working. If you worked in the banking industry you'd be surprised at how many senior wives have hidden accounts their spouses don't know about.
I stayed at home for the 1st 3 years of my Son's life and hated it. I loved being a mom, but I needed more and really did not enjoy homemaking at all. I am much happier working outside the home. My mom and her mother were the same. They both worked, my mom has multiple degrees, and they felt they were better parents because of it. I also know people who love being a SAHP (stay at home parent). They are happy and fulfilled and feel like it makes them a better parent. One is not better than the other, and whatever works for a family is best. The problem is when people don't have a choice anymore. SAHP can't afford to stay home, and I have seen parents who would rather work, but have to stay home (especially when kids are young) because child care is ridiculously expensive
Load More Replies...You have to have a ridiculous salary to afford this. Currently I can afford it but it is tight. And that's not even in the States. As soon as I have to get a new job I can see for sure we won't make it.
All depends on where you live. I haven't worked in over 10 years. The first few years we struggled and lived pay check to paycheck. My husband now makes a little over 100,000 a year. We own a almost 2,000 sq ft house on a large lot in a small town. We raised two kids and live comfortably. Bought both of our kids non expensive cars. Multiple vacations a year, dinners out at least once a week, designer items. A lot of it is where we live and how we budget.
This is because they've convinced people that responsible adults have a bunch of credit cards and debt from college, cars, house Etc. My husband has worked for 20 years while I stayed home. We were able to do it because we had no credit cards or debt to pay off
When I lived at home, only my dad worked (he still does) and we got:private school, big ish house, exotic vacations, flying first class, a Porsche, a BMW for my 16th, designer purses. It really depends, not all families with one source of income are living in a box on the side of the street. I don't mean to offend anyone pls I'm not trying to be rude🙂
You may not be in the 1% but you're probably in the 5% then. Most people can not afford those things on two incomes, let alone one. Even 20 years ago...
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Getting a hand written letter
I used to have penpals so that I'd still get handwritten mail instead of all bills/spam. They all either fizzled out or wanted to email instead of writing because they had no patience for the post.
It might be only in Australia but there is a group that connects pen pals I heard about recently and there are probably others out there, if you want get started again: https://connectedau.com.au/letterbox-project
Load More Replies...I'm 36 and still write letters to family & friends the old-fashioned way...it's a fun way to show them that I love and appreciate them!
That's wonderful! I love to get letters! My kids write letters, I gave them stamps and sealing wax for the envelopes. It's a beautiful expression of yourself and the great esteem you hold them in.
Load More Replies...My handwriting has always been bad, even when I was a kid. Taking notes from fast talking instructors in high school and college only made it worse. I also get writers cramp really easily, and I didn’t take typing classes, because I wasn’t going to be a secretary, I was going to have a secretary. So believe me, for some of us, Microsoft Word is a godsend. I can type (well, my version of typing)—-and edit and correct—-legible letters to family and friends, for the times I send letters instead of emailing, texting, or calling them.
I think that's a great way to do it if handwriting isn't for you! It's more about the actual putting thoughts on paper, putting that in an envelope, getting a stamp and mailing it. That's a lot of steps to people these days. My uncle had rheumatoid arthritis so he would record his "letters" on cassette tape and mail those. (Jeez I'm old) whatever works!
Load More Replies...Years ago, there was a knock on the door and the postman was outside. "What do I have to sign for?" "Nothing." He stares at me, then hands letter from a friend. "I just wanted to see who gets these awesome handwritten letters. You're the only person on my round who regularly, or at all, gets handwritten letters, and they are AWESOME." (Handwritten, ink, and often handmade paper closed with a wax seal.) Me, going "Oh, cool. Well, since you're here, could you take this with you to post?" and hand him a handwritten, in ink, ribbon and wax seal closed letter. He nearly fainted. :) "OMG you write them, too???" Sadly my friend passed away, so no more letters. We actually made a point NOT to email each other, ever.
I would do that if I had friends. If the closest mailbox was closer than 1/2 mile away. If the nearest post office to get stamps was less than 2 miles away. I'd also have to go 1 mile in the opposite direction to get a card and/or envelopes.
I taught my nieces and nephew how to write letters. It’s the only way we communicate. They got nervous when I introduced cursive, but eventually picked it up. It’s how my grandpa and I used to communicate, due to his heating loss. I’m hopeful they see it as I do and keep it up. It’s a lost art. I even sent them some nice pens when they were old enough to respect them.
At the same time, people still hate it and what it stands for. Owning things, from houses to music, feels like a concept from the past. Enticed by a quick buck, or a high share price, to be accurate, many companies have dabbled with offering a subscription over a one-time fee. The result is that many actually fail and fall apart. Even the current giants, like Netflix, once a huge industry disruptor, are struggling. So maybe consider looking through your active subscriptions and cutting the ones you don’t need.
Being a stay at home mom. I’m all for women having the option to work a career and be a mom, but I’ve met so many who hate having to drop off their babies or small children with grandma or at a daycare because it takes 2 incomes to survive because wages haven’t kept up work productivity for the last 50 years.
It would be great if one income would suffice - it should be a choice within the family who wants to work and who wants to stay at home. I know a few men who would be the most amazing SAHD given the chance. Unfortunately 1. That's still looked down on and 2. Until the pay gap is erased most women's salaries are still not enough to pay the bills alone.
I am a SAHF and the number of people who openly tell me I'm lazy and drain on society is astounding
Load More Replies...My mom was/is a stay at home mom, it was always so nice coming home from school and she would be in the kitchen making some sort of snack for my siblings and me.
Be thankful for free and loving babysitting by the grandparents. Most actually have a busy life outside being grandparents, and can get taken for granted as if they have nothing else to do.
I sympathetic with this however you must keep in mind that is our (yes I'm a boomer) fault for believing the propaganda and letting business take control of the government. If you want to regain control become involved in politics. It won't be easy or quick but it will be the only way things will change. The rich and corporate world are doing very well with the current system.
Sure would save on daycare when the kids are little, and women wouldn’t have to worry about maternity leave that is way too short, as well as unpaid. The daycare alone can be as expensive as a part time salary, even some full time salaries. Paying out that much actually IS like trying to live on only one salary.
Unpaid ? Jeez. That is extremely 3rd world.
Load More Replies...It's not (only) about being able to make it on a single income, it's about financial independence. Women should not be forced to become dependent on their partner bc they choose to have children.
Our family has always pooled our resources; there is no "his money" and "her money." If you're not in it together, why are you together? Just saying.
Load More Replies...We went from a two to one income house hold so the kids cld have a SAHD. What was interesting was that the loss of the second income didn’t hurt near as much as we thought. Turns out, working is pretty expensive and we don’t really think about it.
Going to work is expensive--gas, car payment, clothes, insurance, etc. When we retired, we we amazed and how much money was suddenly avaliable to us, even on a retirement income.
Load More Replies...In my country you can stay home with your child until their 3rd birthday on government subsidies if you want. Maternity leave is 12 months. It is very rare to be a SAHP after that though, I don't know anyone who's done that since the 60s.
A pension you could retire on
How about having holidays off. And stores being closed on holidays. If you didn't fill up or get the ingredients for your recipe before the holiday- you were out of luck.
customer on dec 24: "Oh I'm so sorry you have to work today. They should be closed. It's Christmas Eve for goodness sake!" WORKER: "......it's not like you and your ilk arent the REASON we stay open on days like this. $13.29 please. Paper or plastic?"
Load More Replies...Companies are counting on you getting Social Security to make up the difference and cutting back on theirs.
Companies are switching to a401k instead of pensions. Even though 401k was meant to supplement a pension, not replace. They don't give a s**t about social security. It'll be gone by the time most of the current workforce reaches eligible age anyway
Load More Replies...Jobs like police, firefighters, teachers, and local government workers are not parrticularly attractive or well-paying in everyone's eyes, but the pensions and healthcare you get at retirement might be worth the aggravation later on. Thank you, Baltimore. Thank you, Dad, for telling me this as a teen.
Word used to be just installed with your microsoft software. Now you have to pay each month/year.
yeah but it kind of sucks compared to office 365. Its great for a free package but its lacking.
Load More Replies...It comes with every mid or big cloud storage package with OneDrive tho. I pay like 9 dollars for a terabyte and sync my data folders with it from my pc. Any time s**t hits the fan and I have to reimage my computer, all data is there. This is not a horrible part.
Google Workspace for me. Anywhere, any pc, any mobile. Free (which means I am the product and pay with my data).
workspace isnt bad. I still pay $99 a year for an office 365 license though. I cant live without proper excel.
Load More Replies...Leaving your family behind to start your life at 18 or even younger. Now, folks be livin' with their parents until they're 45, saving up for 100 sq. ft. closet that costs $2000 a month in what barely passes as not a slum.
Mostly USA. Rest of the world always had the kids living at home until they left with new partner… very rare (but not unheard of) to move out on your own.
i dont know where you live but thats uncommon in the Netherlands.
Load More Replies...That was a terrible situation those young adults and teens were put in to be kicked out 16-18, or younger. There was still school to go to. Some didn't graduate because they had to work full time to pay the bills. There's many people in other areas of society where living at home into adulthood is normal and acceptable. There should be nothing wrong with that.
Thirty years ago, young people would buy houses in their parents’ neighborhoods. Now they can’t afford to.
Load More Replies...It used to be generations of families stayed together. Grandparents raised the kids while everyone else worked. Now they brainwash us into all living apart and going into debt.
It depends on culture. In SA it's common for some groups to have extended families living in the house even if they are not poor, e.g. our indian diaspora community. White folks here however tend to keep the kids at home till about 23-25 ish. Then it's shape up or ship out.
I moved out at 18 I thought that was normal, at least we're I live
My friend moved out the day after graduation. I thought that was so weird. Kids don't make appointments 6 months in advance to get their license the day they turn 16. I've seen 20 something who have never bothered to get their license.
I actually moved back home at 38 because my mum is just getting that much older. It's been almost 10 years. I live in my childhood room. At first it was weird to say I live with my mom but I wouldn't want to be anywhere else now. She's 78 and we have my 12 year old niece 2-4 nights a week. Generational living is awesome. We immigrated to the US when I was 2 but generational living is perfectly normal in our culture.
Load More Replies...Wait, I got rip off. When I turned 13 gramps said I was old enough to survive. Been working since then.
Attention spans lasting longer than a lightning bolt.
Oh I just busted out laughing!! Thank you, I needed that!
Load More Replies...Did you catch the squirrel? Did Bouche catch the squirrel? I need an update!
Load More Replies...Yes, most of that is sound bites on TV and the internet, but a part of it is simply lack of time. We’re too tired to read long articles when we get home from work—-and at work, we’re constantly interrupted, and have bosses who think we can read a 50 page detailed report in ten minutes, so really can’t concentrate and read and just lose that habit. Why do you think I started disconnecting when I was off work? Don’t call me for anything work related when I’m not in the office. Back then that was considered a huge sin, and is probably why I was passed by for a load of promotions. F**k it. At least I never burned out like coworkers who didn’t disconnect. Now my husband and I own our own company and can make our own rules—-and we have a load of experience with what NOT to do. I run the office from home. I am not chained to my desk. My husband and our one employee (so far) can set their own schedules. We’re generous with holidays and vacation time. We don’t require anyone to have to work a full year before they can have them, they’re immediate upon hire. We don’t yell or berate. We request. We don’t guilt trip when someone is out sick or takes their vacation time. We try to be the opposite of all the a*****e management we’ve both put up with for decades. Funny thing is, even though past managers thought being a******s made people more productive and the company grow, our company is very productive and growing by leaps and bounds without that kind of behavior. We started January 2, 2023 with one customer. It’s not even mid-June 2023, and we’re going to have 200 customers by the end of the month, many of them very large corporate accounts. So yes, you CAN be a decent human being AND be successful.
Don’t know either… the text was too long and there was a squirell behind my window… and… what was the question again?
Load More Replies...Over the last 20 years I have seen children's attention span in lessons reduce greatly.
It honestly upsets me and I've tried to fix this. I used to get a new book and be so into it that I would ignore the rest of the world. I haven't dedicated myself to a book in years. I could finish a large one in a couple days. Now an average sized book takes well over a week because I can't seem to pay attention. Same with all my art projects, so many are left half done because of my attention span. I was never like this when I was younger.
Privacy
I can still hear Zuckerberg say that 'privacy is a thing of the past'. What was that guy thinking?
He started with Facebook to rate college girls on 'doability' with stolen data. Hasn't been less of a sociopath since.
Load More Replies...Now only criminals will kill because they thought they were disrespected. FFS
Load More Replies...A good start is letting your loved ones know you're going to X Y Z and leave your phone at home. Unless you're hiking, if you urgently need a phone you can access one and make that call if you need it. It also requires a good ol' paper agenda. And a whole new mindset. But it's doable at least at the weekend.
More than anything! Privacy is more precious than some think. Being so easily doxxed can be dangerous to you and your families.
And people who wanted privacy - instead of vomiting out their whole life on-line.
Being able to pay your bills without being charged to make a payment, you want it on paper $2, pay at post office $3, pay using debit card 70c. It's ridiculous that we have to pay to pay. Also getting away with doing some really dumb or embarrassing s**t, no phones anywhere to capture and upload the moment you slip on dog s**t or walk into the most beautifully cleaned glass doors that are so clean you don't see them, it's just you and those who witnessed the painfully embarrassing moment, not millions of people around the world seeing it.
My internet company charged me $1 for a paper bill in the mail and wanted me to “go green”. I finally cancelled with them for other reasons and now they send me ad mailers at least once every two weeks- usually once a week. Infuriating.
Pretty sure they will be required to provide at least one method of payment that does not incur a charge, but that may not be how you want to pay, such as by direct debit from your bank account. In the UK (and most likely all of Europe) it is illegal to charge a different price according to the method of payment. Any processor fees must be absorbed by the business and not charged directly to the customer. In reality it means everyone pays slightly more, but the price is the price whether you pay by cash, credit or debit card or cheque.
It’s because the vendor is a middleman who has to pay the processor to take your payment. It’s a vicious circle, and the processors dictate fees. Companies who try to make it convenient for customers are just as screwed. Though it IS a real d**k move to pass the whole cost on to customers as a hefty fee. We don’t do that, we just file it under cost of doing business. We looked into it when we were setting up our business. Thankfully, the software we chose for our small business accepts credit cards for a discounted rate when you subscribe to the whole package, which we need for our business anyway.
You have to pay to pay your bills? That doesn't happen in Australia that I've seen, which is good because that's crazy!
It does happen in Australia, you just don't always realise it. There are credit card fees on most transactions. Sometimes the seller absorbs the cost (but realistically they include it in the price) sometimes they literally charge you an extra fee. My ISP charges me to use a credit card to pay. A couple of the utility companies are charging a fee to get paper statements and I'm pretty sure a couple banks are too.
Load More Replies...In SA our post office is incompetent and we only use digital payment methods. You only pay extra to pay someone if they are on a different bank AND you want the payment to go through instantly. We have a banking intermediary called BankServ. The money goes nightly between banks. If you want to overrule that you ask for instant transfer and it's like $0.5 to do it. Invoices etc., even from government now come via email only. No-one bothers to post.
On top of that, I understand privacy of accounts, but going thru hoops and ladders proving it's YOU paying on your account. I mean, frfr, if somebody else wants to pay my bills....I mean, I can pay my own, but uhhhh....ya know? lol
Went to a brick and mortar store yesterday to pay phone bill. Charged me $5 to pay in cash. Make it make sense.
I had to pay a $10 processing fee to file my local taxes so I could pay what I owe plus the required payment of estimated taxes for next year. I had to pay all in one lump sum even though it was hundreds of dollars in estimated taxes and made it hard to cover my bills, because if I paid in installments I would be charged interest on my taxes, plus a processing fee for each installment. I won't get any of it back as a refund however, because it always rolls over to the next year's estimated tax or to cover some fee or other. Frustrating!
Clothing and shoes that last more than a year with regular wear
Shoe-wise I always buy skechers. They are comfortable, I still have 2 pairs from 2016, they look beatup however they're still comfortabe. Just for the record I work in a warehouse I'm on my feet all day.
Skechers are not cheap. I'm lucky that we have an outlet that sells slightly older stock at reduced prices near me. The padding in the sole makes a big difference to me, as the nerve endings in my feet were damaged by chemo and I find walking on hard surfaces quite painful after a while.
Load More Replies...I put very few of my clothes in a dryer because dryer drying wears things out too fast. Since I live by myself, having a laundry rack (or two) in my living room is worth it for 20 year old cotton sweaters that still look good.
A shoe repair shop is unheard of now. Used to get new soles or heels because the leather of the shoe was great quality. Now they're plastic.
I always buy military surplus boots for work. Navy ICW boots to be exact. They are waterproof to the top, slip resistant, have a safety toe, and come with two pairs of gor-tex booties that you can switch out and wash, so they take a while to start smelling. Another benefit is that I can get them in my size(14.5 wide), but they usually last about 3 years. Also, they can be found cheap on eBay.
I have a half life shirt that came with a preorder of Half Life 2 that's still good to this day. Oh s**t, that was 20 years ago.
My shoes last me years and years even when worn regularly- though that's because I can't stand or walk so they're purely for decoration when sat in my wheelchair. Always getting people asking if my shoes are new but being shocked when I say they're 1-2 years old+! Clothes wise, I prefer to spend a bit more money and buy better quality that will last a longer time and wash well, than buying cheap stuff that ends up thread bare in weeks. I was shocked when a friend said she doesn't expect stuff she buys from shein to last more than 4-5 washes and if it makes it to 6-+ she's shocked! The number of items that must end up in landfill must be ridiculous
Getting prescribed opioids when you need them for pain. 'War on drugs' zealotry has created a landscape where even terminally ill patients on hospice are routinely denied the mercy of pain management because of 'addiction risk'. Acute pain patients are being told to take OTCs for severe injuries and major surgeries, and chronic pain patients are being tortured to death. Those precious few doctors with enough compassion to provide quality pain care are persecuted by drug cops at the DEA who know nothing about practicing medicine whatsoever. It's all sickening and depressing. Every year I think it couldn't get worse, and every year I'm proven wildly wrong. And there is zero upside - the addicts who can't get scrips just switched to fentanyl and are dying in record numbers.
This needs to be higher. Opioids have been completely taken off the market here, even codeine.
Not sure where you are, but they're still prescribed in the UK. Had to clear out my FiL's house last year, both he and his wife had died within 6 months, and both of them had huge stocks of codeine, amongst others, prescribed for chronic pain, and quite recently. Why they'd got so much was beyond me and we returned most of it to a pharmacy. Some we kept and brought over to France/CH, as I occasionally (once or twice a year) use it for my own chronic pain issues (fybromyalgia). I could get it (re-)prescribed if I needed, but it's a cost and hassle issue, so... The risk of 'accidentally' becoming addicted is hugely overblown,
Load More Replies...If someone is in acute pain and just trying to function, the correct dosage of an opioid will be so busy addressing the pain it won’t make them wasted. They aren’t addicts, they’re patients precisely prescribed specific dosages by educated, qualified, and licensed professionals, the best of whom will do their best to keep them functioning without crossing over to addiction. Too bad that best isn’t the norm, and so many doctors fall prey to payola schemes from Big Pharma. BTW, I thought payola was illegal.
Yes this, the few times post surgery that I have needed opioids I didn't get high, I just felt an absence of pain. When I started to get affected I knew it was time to back off myself and was right each time I switched back to paracetamol.
Load More Replies...I take opioids to manage my chronic pain and I have no intention of stopping. It's literally a choice of life and death for me because without them life would not be worth living. I'm dependent on them for any quality of life and yes I know my body is addicted to them but I'm very strict with my own medication management and luckily I have an understanding doctor.
Same for me. I take them for severe back issues (Spina Bifida and Scoliosis) and I am grateful that my Dr. understands the need. I take as prescribed and do not abuse them but I hate feeling that I am doing something wrong when I go to the pharmacy every month to pick them up and I shouldn't have to feel that way :(
Load More Replies...I was told to take Tylenol after cruciate ligament replacement, so yes doctors think everyone is a drug seeking addict nowadays…
When we do cruciate sx on dogs they get fentynl patch that lasts 3 to 4 days,gabapentin,and meloxicam for 2 weeks,none have had to go into rehab
Load More Replies...It happens to me. I have chronic pain syndrome, and I am made to drive 35 miles one way to see a pain clinic every month. Then I have to jump thru hoops finding a pharmacy that even carries the meds, let alone having them in stock. They treat people like me like a criminal, while the junkies get their dope handed to them free every day.
Chronic pain syndrome is a red flag to drug abuse. There are so many other routes to work with pain. I broke my back in several places. Prescribed opioid. Refused to continue to take them due to possibility of dependency. Best choice I made. Now get acupuncturist, deep tissue massage every week. Much better than drugs.
Load More Replies...Happening in the USA. I snapped my ACL and tore my meniscus (knee) and basically got handed ibuprofren.
Load More Replies...I fortunately haven't needed opiate pain meds, but when I was having bad panic attacks, it was almost impossible to get benzodiazepine meds.
benzos are the devils medicine. Xanax is pure evil. I went cold turkey and still had withdrawal symptoms for 8 months on and off.
Load More Replies...Affordable Healthcare
Australia, free healthcare in emergencies and other problems. Private healthcare though is needed, but costs are significantly reduced.
We just need to get dental added into it and we're set as aussies. Can't believe it hasn't happened yet, tho probably never will. But even still, thank someone's god chemo is available through our PHS. Also, it still boggles my brain that insulin was created and the creator/ patent holder made it free and available, but in America, people go without due the the inflated price and its frackin legal to do so. If I'm out of line or wrong, please correct me gently. I've finally got 2 days off, finished my chores and running around and now day drinking, flubbing on BP while listening to tunes.
Load More Replies...We’ve got free (and before anybody says anything, yes, I am aware it’s paid for by taxes and not by healthcare fairies, I pay those taxes and it’s a bargain) universal healthcare, and I’m fυcking outraged on behalf of those who don’t. Seeing to the needs of the population is the whole entire purpose of a society; if it fail to do that, it’s not a society - it’s a goddamned failure.
Healthcare has never been affordable in the U. S. At least now you can't be denied coverage of you have a health issue.
Denied, no, but insurance companies can price it beyond your ability to pay (and you don't always qualify for any sort of subsidy/assistance in paying). That was the case for me before I married my husband (for his insurance, as we joke).
Load More Replies...Babies whose births and Mom’s recovery were 100% paid for before they both left the hospital.
When was that? I’ve been hearing the “$100 for one pill at the hospital” complaint for ages.
but insurance used to cover that nonsense. Now they come back with, “you didn’t medically need that aspirin. We are not paying.”
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Family vacations.
I remember going on road trips regularly and even flying once or twice as a kid. Now that I have kids there's no way I can afford a week-long trip to the Badlands, Grand Canyon, Disney/Universal Studios etc. Best I can do is a day trip to the Dells maybe once a year.
Ah, must be talking about the Wisconsin Dells. The best description I've heard is "imagine every roadside kitsch place imaginable all concentrated in a one location." Love the place but I need to get up there more often.
Forget it in the summer. All filled with people from Illinois clogging up 39/90. Same with Devils Lake. You have to get a campsite a year in advance
Load More Replies...For me, when I was a child my parents could only afford to bring me to some places in Slovakia where I am originally from. However, when I was a bit older and could access scholarships and earn later also own money, that is when my journey across Europe started. Now I am in my early 30s and still continue getting to know places ^^
You would be delighted to know how many intersting things are within an hour or two of home.
Load More Replies...im 50 and when i was young it was exeptional to know kids that would take a plane on vacation, Spain was a luxuary, Southern France by car as well! (im in europe) Now my clients and friends etc are flying to different continets multiple times a year. Unheard of in the 80's
And yet the economy section of the plane keeps getting fuller and fuller. Now first class is also getting really small(not unless you fly emirates) but seriously though those seats are so tiny even I feel squished. I am 4'11.
Why do people pay extravagant prices for amusement parks and other destinations? You work hard for that money. Don't give it to rich people!
Same. I was born in 73 & i have 2 younger brothers. Dad and mom owned their 3 bdrm house paid off in full, we went on 3 week long vacations across the usa every single summer as long as us kids lived there til we moved out post highschool/college, dad always got new cars every couple of years, and mom stayed home. we always had a full fridge, freezer and one of those big a*s freezers in the basement to keep tons of meat inside. deep freeze, I think it's called. We all got new wardrobes for each new school year; and dad was working at a factory. That was the only income. Hell, they paid for my college in 92. I went to the local Community college first, it was $35 per credit hour (now a days it's easily $600 - $1500 per credit hour and ONE class may have 3 to 5 credit hours) and then the StateUni that was $6k a year. Unlike today where it's 20k - 80k per year. Times have changed and not all for the best.
Being able to buy a decent standard home on one modest salary.
When minimum wage was created, it was meant for a man to support his family in a home with 2 cars 2.5 kids and a white picket fence. It no longer does this.
Minimum wage was created so employers could not take advantage of their employees and so there was a standard hourly rate across the board. It was definitely noy meant so families could afford 2 cars. The 1950s American family life with the wgite picket fence featured a working dad and a SAHM who either did not drive or did not have a car. A 2nd car was a huge luxury.
Load More Replies...I saw an illustration which shows how the cost of living has increased a lot but the average salary has increased by a small amount when comparing present day with a few decades ago.
Depends on country ... our country you generally get CPI inflation linked increase regardless of promotion or performance due to our strong union culture... trouble is our inflation exceeds the increase. CPI is typically 10% but the increases are typically 3-6%, so you are gradually sinking, yes.
The problem is, builders are forcing these ridiculous McMansions down our throats. Build bungalows and ranchers. Government agencies who approve the buidlings of these humongous houses should restrict how many oversize houses can be built and encourage the building of smaller, sensible houses instead.
Avoiding people by simply not answering the landline phone, this would make the person calling assume you are just not home. We introverts no longer have this luxury with cell phones, texting, "online" status when logged into a PC so co-workers can IM you, etc.
I can still ignore my mobile if I'm not feeling like answering and at least now you can see who is calling before deciding whether to answer.
I have this sorted, absolutely nobody expects me to answer straight away. I get texts saying "can you call me sometime today or tomorrow" cos I never fell for the trap of being constantly available when mobile phones began.
Load More Replies...Your phone is your servant, not the other way around. You don’t have to answer it.
This harks back to the online gaming point too. There are times I don't want to socialise. I hate when a game client (eg: Battle.net/Steam/Epic/etc) doesn't let you appear offline. There are times it'd be nice to be able to just spend half an hour blowing up zombies without friends hitting you up to do stuff.
Just don't answer the dang phone! What makes you feel that you must answer then?
You can still ignore it. Just train your people that they cannot just call you. My policy is that ONLY my boss and my partner can call. Anyone else must drop a text first.
If you are not in my contacts list in my phone, your call goes straight to voicemail. I also don't keep my phone with me all the time, and most days I forget where I last put it down!
Concert Ticket prices
They are ridiculous! I want to go to a concert for $50 a tix but with the all the effing fees, it comes to $150+
I wish there were more small venues that bands played at. One of the best shows I saw was Sammy Hagar in one of the clubs in Fortitude Valley. Maybe a couple hundred people. Could sit at the bar and still see and hear the show or walk up front and be practically touching distance. So much better than going to a 50,000 seat venue and being 100 metres from the action.
Sammy Hagar is awesome in concert! Saw him solo and when he as with Van Halen.
Load More Replies...I refuse to go to a concert now. Price gouging for s****y seats. Nope. I’ll just hang on to my money.
My partner is a big fan of Pink, she’s wanted to see her live for a long time. When her latest tour went on sale she moved heaven and earth to buy tickets. We are off to see Pink tomorrow night, the cost? Over £300 for two tickets that are ok but not front row or exceptional. The last gig we went to was £8 each at our local Labour Club, Pink had best be amazing, she’s charging nearly 20 times what we paid to see Johnny Campbell and he was great! 😀
When I was a teen in the early '80s, you could pay for a ticket, a band shirt, and the gas to get you to the concert and back with one 6-hour minimum wage shift. You can't even afford the ticket on that amount of work today.
Me and a friend wanted to go a concert last minute, prices on line for two tickets were $150.00. I said it is not sold-out, and the place were going had a pavilion and lawn seats, i said lets just buy them there, the two tickets bought at the venue were $70.00, it is ridiculous
Depends on the concert. I had a very busy three weeks and saw concerts ranging from 18 euro to 85. 18 euro was a fun gig of one of my favorite bands in a small room of a theatre and the 85 gig was standing at the very front of a John Fogerty concert in a 15.000 capacity venue. Im very glad John Fogerty is my most famous/expensive artist. My BF sawhim in Paris last week and paid around 150 euro for a front row SEAT, but there were seats in the back starting at 70 i think. edit: yes i do think other concerttickets can be ridiculously expensive!
I just made a similar comment. There are still a lot of great shows happening. We may just have to accept the fact that we won't be able to see [insert favorite massively famous pop star here], but that doesn't mean we have to stop seeing concerts. Take a look at who's coming to a venue nearby that you may never have heard of. It's easy enough to listen to some of their songs and see if you enjoy them. I've been introduced to some really great bands this way.
Load More Replies...There are some artists that I love but will NEVER be able to see live. It breaks my heart.
Right now, I'm struggling just to own a dog. Decent dog food is insanely expensive right now. Dog parks are not for every dog, but they're the only space to let your dog play if you don't have a yard or can't walk due to the pavement being too hot (providing the park has shaded areas and water access, which is hit or miss). Vets keep raising their prices to keep up with inflation, which is making it so much harder to keep up with basic care. Same with licensing. Quality dog toys are at least $20 and often don't last as long as I would like (except MonsterK9 and King Chew, very well worth it) for my heavy chewer. Grooming is costly, flea and tick protection is costly, treats are costly, everything about owning a dog is so much more than it used to be, even though canine care wasn't as quality as it is now. Heck, my first dog didn't cost this much to care for and he was a frequent flyer at the vet for his health issues
We adopted a dog with our teenage son not knowing what a money pit she would be. We adore her, but Trefexis and insurance is about $90 a month, her yearly exam is about $400. She just injured her back playing with the sprinkler and that cost us over a $1000. We live paycheck to paycheck so I understand how tough it can be.
I have a wellness plan thru Banfield. Worth paying $45 a month which includes wellness visit every 6 months.
Load More Replies...We live on a dead end road. People periodically dump animals here, mostly cats and kittens, and the few houses by us, and ourselves, are the suckers who take them in. We’ve had as many as five cats and a dog at the same time. We loved each and every one while they were with us, and cried every time one died. We’re down to two youngish cats now, after three seniors died within a year (very very tough year). Costs have gone down, of course, but sometimes it’s just too quiet in the house. Know what I mean?
I read that first sentence as a commentary on our economic future.
Load More Replies...My kid asked me why I don't want a dog. And I simply replied "It's not that I don't want a dog; I would love to have a dog. I just can't afford to have a dog"
"It was a dog or a kid. We can get a dog, but we'll have to trade you in."
Load More Replies...I have 8 cats, 4 are seniors (7 years and above) and I have no idea how I’m going to care for them as they age. It used to be a simple teeth cleaning was about £300 at my vets, now it’s £550
We want to get our cat's teeth cleaned but the vet required an annual checkup first, so $55 for that, then we are waiting to get the appointment and charged for the cleaning. I get that she needs both but geez
Load More Replies...Standard care is one thing, but then there can also be emergencies. One of our little dogs just developed hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, which required emergency care and an overnight hospital stay with medications sent home for continued care. $3,000 USD. But thankfully the little guy is well now, and is currently zooming around the yard with his brother. 😊
I adopted a senior dog. It cost $1200 right off the bat for the sever tooth decay and teeth removal. Not counting the $400 adoption fee.
Load More Replies...Where I live there are no doggie parks. We walk our dogs down the street. We buy toys for our dogs at the Dollar store and learn to groom our dogs ourselves. Yes it's time consuming but when you weigh that against the cost of paying someone else to do all that for you... it's worth it.
My dog had two ear problems. I made an appointment with the vet to get surgery. I show up they take me to the back and give him a rabies shot then they say he's all done. I got confused and asked about his ears. Apparently they forgot about his surgery and the actual vet wasn't even there. I make another appointment. The poke his ears and squeeze them till the fluid was gone sent him home. Fluid came back I had to schedule another appointment. They cut open his ears, didn't put a drain in, and sent him home. Of course that didn't work. Ending getting advise on how to actually help him from a local feed store and took care it. I'm still angry but his ears are great now.
The only thing I can think of is to go on every review site and put your story on it so somebody else can avoid that vet. Also, a letter of complaint to the actual vet. Maybe some of the screw up was the front office?
Load More Replies...It really is a privilege. I don't know what would be the answer here. Adopting a dog immeasurably improves my quality of life as someone who has struggled with her mental health and I'm willing to let other things slide to afford a dog. But im very grateful to be in that position.
Electronics coming with free headphones and chargers
Universal charger and universal accessories required by law. You’re free to buy whatever you want/need from whoever you want. Less waste, better prices.
Prices didn't decrease when they stopped including a charger and headphones. Who are you kidding?
Load More Replies...I think there should be packages including charger, headphone and other that do not, if someone already has enough.
S**t, I remember when video game consoles came with a free game. They called it a pack in. 👨🏻🦳
A charger was not necessarily a bad thing, as many newer phone came with higher capacity chargers that delivered faster charging. The headphone I do not miss, as I bought a set of noise cancelling headphones and used those. The free ones just sat around in drawers, unused.
When I got my latest phone I was shocked to discover I couldn't use it, no charger. It wasn't even mentioned online where I bought it that there wouldn't be a cord.
To be fair, aside from absolute high-end products, the included headphones have almost always been c**p you replaced anyway, even 30 years ago.
When I had one laptop, one portable radio, one whatever, that would make sense. But I only have one set of ears. I don't need more than one set of in-ear and one set over-ear headphones for my phone, tablet, or one of two laptops. I cheer when I get another rechargeable gizmo and it does Not have another USB cable to store. I got a couple of rechargeable camping lanterns that came with 6-inch USB cables just in case, you know, you didn't actually have a large box of USB cables. The 6-inchers got tucked into my emergency kits, in case someone else ran out of their house in an emergency without one.
People making friends with one another purely because they enjoy their companionship and not because of networking
I'm hung up on the way perception has changed. 30 years ago *incompetent John is promoted to shift lead because he's dating the CEO's daughter* People: "That's disgraceful! Everybody knows Bill was a much better pick for that position, he knows the work and safety procedures by heart and is popular with his co-workers. This is a blatant case of nepotism!" Now *Jack has just finished his BA and is hired as factory manager because he's dating the CEO's daughter, despite never having set foot on the factory floor and having no idea what needs to be done* People: "Now, that's brilliant networking!"
Are you being sarcastic? If not, I assure you it was perfectly normal to make friends based on liking each other, and not based on what you could get out of the other person. People even made friends from wildly different social classes.
Load More Replies...That still happens. It's harder when working remotely, but I've never "networked" in that sense.
Nope. Never stayed friends with anyone I worked with. Friends and work don't mix.
Something like this has never happened before. Finally you better take off your heart shaped pink unicorn glasses.
Knowing and being friends with your neighbors. Looking after each other’s children, pets, houses when one of us is away. Knowing if your kids are down the street playing, a neighbor is looking out for them, and will call you right away if something happens like an injury or fight. Hell, my mother always knew when I did something I shouldn’t long before I got home, because the neighborhood grapevine had already ratted me out. Didn’t appreciate that until I grew up and realized just how safe and secure I was because of it. If anyone had tried to hurt me, or drag me into their car, there would’ve been an army of neighbors coming to help me, and beat the s**t out of the bully or perv. I am now eternally grateful for having that protection.
Boredom. There's always something to take your attention nowadays. There's literal lifetimes of entertainment on a single streaming service. Phones. There's tons of free and cheap games that can just eat hours of your time. Social media. YouTube, etc etc etc. 20-30 years ago, if there was nothing you wanted to watch on TV, you either sat through it or found something else to do. Games had to be bought in stores, so it was more of a process buying them. Once you had them, you committed to it or bought a new game. Sometimes there was just legitimately nothing to do. You had to get creative with your downtime. Make your own fun.
I remember whining to my mom about being bored. She'd threaten to find me something to do.
I've played endless games of Scrabble with my mom when there was nothing on the telly.
Load More Replies...Yes! I wondered why nobody had mentioned this! I used to read ALL the time, now I am busy looking at my phone instead. At least I have this quality website with my fellow pandas for company! 😂
Load More Replies...Plenty of things to do back then, they were just a different type- knitting, sewing, painting, woodwork, tinkering on cars, basically any hobby, as well as doing more things in person with family and friends.
All of these things are still available for most people, with the possible exception of doing things as a family.
Load More Replies...I don’t know - I was never really bored. And I mean, I was a teenager before we had internet or smartphones. I read, or built stuff, or hanged out with my friends. Can’t remember boredom much.
If not games, then a hobby, or you could just take a walk, or reorganize your kitchen cabinets or that closet you’d been meaning to clean out. There was (and still is) always something to do that didn’t (doesn’t) entail sitting on your a*s in front of a screen. I’m reading this article while drinking my coffee. Once my cup is empty, I’m going to tackle that closet.
Boredom leads to creativity. We are all too over scheduled, especially children.
House ownership and being debt free. Everyone has accepted debt as parts of their lives.
I've never allowed debt to be a part of my life. No credit cards, no indebtedness. The Army doesn't charge rent, and when I was honorably discharged I had a truck and camper that I maintained and traveled around the country. Staying single meant no clingy kids; I was free to travel and do as I liked. I would park my truck wherever I worked--no commute. No wife and rent meant LOTS of money saved year in and year out. For fun and friends I'd go to church. My modest investments added to my social security and now I'm retired in a very comfortable care home with even more friends and professionals. Life is very good and God is making it better. With 8 billion people on this planet, I'm so glad I didn't get stuck in the clingy, insecure rat race. Stay away from Satan and false appearances. Blow up your TV and cell phone! Never spend a dime you don't have to. Be real honest with solid integrity. Learn how to do right in church, not from TV. Owe thanks, not money.
I don't understand. The only debt I have is my house. If I can't pay cash for it I don't need it. I'm 63 and I've never had a credit card.
Agree I'd like to know when and where people weren't going in to debt to buy,
Load More Replies...It's at least as old as the old testament, which bans charging interest as usury.
Load More Replies...Not really, in SA those who do not carry debt live in "informal settlements" aka squatter camps. So ... yeah. If you want to not have a house or car, sure, you can be debt-free.
Just because the bank will loan you half a million dollars doesn’t mean you have to take it! People are so status driven! I work with people that make less than me but drive cars and live in nicer homes! I always bring them a souvenir from my vacations
Load More Replies...We have a 4 figure debt due to a recent OS trip for 2 months, but we will pay that off within months. Apart from that, we don’t have any debts and we’re a single income family. We don’t live the more materialistic type of life of our friends and neighbours but they have what they have along with enormous debts.
And in the US, you will NEVER own your home! You will always owe the government taxes, fees, and more taxes on it - always!!!
Make a detailed budget is the only advice I give. It's too easy to ignore the ridiculous amounts we pay in fees & interest, especially credit cards. Those are a necessity, so I'm not in the team of living cash-only lives. I've been careful w/$$$ all my life, but charged freely for emergencies. I'm nearing retirement & in preparation I've paid off all my cards (again! 3rd or 4th time in my life). I'm now monitoring every penny & it's amazing having a little bit to spare for savings, even w/a minimum wage paycheck. It's not possible for everyone, especially if there's kids & no life insurance, but do try. It's very freeing not having to struggle because you called out for pizza twice this month.
Free driver’s education classes taught in all high schools.
Yeah not a thing in most places outside of the US. In the UK we've had to pay for out own driving lessons. I had to stop learning 20 years ago because I couldn't afford them after my parents stopped paying. At 18 I was still in school and my wages from my part time job went on other things like food and clothes.
When I learnt to drive, I only had about 10 lessons, plus a lot of practice in my mum's car. There is a move now towards lessons only being with a qualified instructor and not just someone with a driving licence. If it becomes law, it is going to make it even more expensive to learn to drive.
Load More Replies...We have to pay for it in Germany. There's even a law of how many hours you need to take. So in the end you have to pay three thousand dollars or even more for a driver's license. When you fail the test for the first time, it costs you even more.
37 states still require high schools to teach driver's education.
Easily 30 years ago we did it in the summer at my US highschool but we paid something for it
Load More Replies...My birthday is at Christmas, and my 17th birthday present was weekly driving lessons until Easter after which it was down to me. The only reason my test wasn't until August was because my instructor thought he'd entered me when he hadn't.
We didn't have this. Our parents taught us or if you had an older sibling they did.
Our HS actually had a driver's training course in the school parking lot. Had those big ol' driver's ed simulators in the driver's ed classroom. Those were the days.
Doctor coming to visit you at home when you were sick
Depends where you live I guess. Regular GPs haven't done housecalls here in decades. But there are housecall services where a doctor will come to you. It just won't be the GP you normally see. From memory it costs more too. edit: Damned typos. Why can't I spell anymore?
They do still just about if you are housebound. Our idiot practice has an online booking system which is never working due to too much demand, so you have to phone up at dead on 8am and sit in a queue for half an hour to get an appointment. Once you get past that, it is not too bad, but everything is same day, so you can't book an appointment for something routine later in the week and tie it in with work.
Or, once the doctor comes in to see you, they stay more than two minutes and then push you out the door. I used to have a doctor who would ask about my family, sit and talk for a few minutes. Actually, cared about you. Now it's how many patients can we see in a day to get that insurance money. You are treated like cattle going through the slaughterhouse line.
Geeze, that only happened in the 50's, right? Been the current way for a LONG LONG time.
I remember that, but honestly seems like a poor use of a doctor's time.
I think they sometimes do it in Aus if your really sick and your unable to go to a hospital.
$1.15 average per gallon gas prices in the 90s
I remember the "gas wars" in the early 1970s when prices at off-brand stations like Clark and Redhead were under 20 cents a gallon. I thought it was outrageous when only a year or two later, prices went above 50 cents. ;-)
Load More Replies...American gas has always been ridiculously cheap compared to European pricing.
Was trying to work that out. I asked for petrol prices from 1990, and it came back with 40p/litre, which is £1.51/US gallon. Considering that there used to be about $2 to £1, that makes it about 75 cents. But yes, generally there has been a lot more tax on fuel in Europe than the US has ever seen.
Load More Replies...Please factor in inflation before you quote old prices, like for gas. I remember 75 cents a gallon in 1979. Adjusting for inflation, that’s $3.13 a gallon in 2023. Not really such cheap gas back then, in reality.
Gallon is what, 3.75L? We currently pay about $1 per Litre, so that's about 4x cheaper. Our petrol price is set by government and roughly tracks the USD, so currently it's 20:1 ZAR:USD so about ZAR 20 per L. I remember in the 1990s when petrol was about ZAR 2/L, so it's about 10x more expensive now.
Prices 1990. Stamp-$.25 Gas-$1.16/gal. Eggs-$1.00/dz. Milk-$2.78/gal.
This one's missing the point of the list I think. It's about goods that were common then and luxurious now. The prices themselves can't fit that requirement. This is just inflation nostalgia.
Groceries to last you the week, like nothing fancy or bougie, just enough food to just permit grocery shopping once a week
I remember, back in the mid sixties, $25 to $35 in groceries would fill the back of a station wagon, and that includes stuff like a roast for Sunday dinner. $25 to $35 in groceries today won’t even fill a bag, much less a station wagon. Of course, inflation makes $25 in 1965 into $250 now, so not much difference I guess.
When groceries were naturally organic instead of spending double for what use to be non big pharma garbage
Our household was 2 adults and 6 kids ... this would have been 1969-1970. Mom's grocery budget, every two weeks, was $40.00. We had meat-and-potato meals - roast beef, roast pork, sometimes spaghetti with meat sauce ... always vegetables and salads. Also homemade bread, baked beans, stews and soups. Can't imagine what I'd have to buy for $40.00 to stretch for two weeks for two people! Maybe Ramen noodles ...
This. Me not using it because I have no clue what it means.
Load More Replies...Eye fillet steak instead of rump (or worse blade/chuck). Gourmet sausages instead of home brand. Magnum icecreams instead of icy poles. The list goes on.
Load More Replies...We have monthly payments, soooooo I'm still buying for a week, i just cry little bit more because of price :D
Working hard to put yourself through college, buy a house, and a truck. Surviving on entry level wages
Especially when you had to do an unpaid internship instead of entry level job, and after you get your education and five years of experience—which used to move you from your entry level job (which you went into fresh out of school with zero experience) to a mid level position and wage—-you still end up paid entry level wages, and have to fight tooth and nail to be paid more. Of course, once you’ve made your mark in your field and become established, then you can get the goodies. But that can be a long haul if you or your family are not already well-connected.
These days it's not WHAT you know, but rather WHO you know.
Load More Replies...Nobody EVER bought a house on entry level wages. But it was possible to work your way up.
@Edward Dwyer. You have a pretty smug sense about yourself. An unearned smug sense. Trucks are utilitarian. Tell me how I am supposed to tow my tool trailer from job to job? with a prius?
I wouldn't buy a pickup truck either unless I actually needed one, but I also wouldn't be so condescending and judgmental toward the people who like them.
Load More Replies...Being able to go out every Friday after work and being able to afford it
If I saved all my free Cash every day till each paycheck i could do this, but i Also work for the scum called Walmart and only make what i do because they're desperate
We don’t go out every night, but we do go out a lot. I have to wonder again about the types of places being referred to here that are so insanely expensive. Tonight’s meal for two plus a good tip was only $28, and it is good food in a large US city. Are the people complaining about prices going out to fancy steakhouses and the like? Two burgers, two fries, and two drinks plus tip. $28. Most nights we look to see what places are holding specials. Taco Tuesday, $5 burgers, bogo entree, couples prix fixe, and so on. It doesn’t take much effort. The deals tend to be prominently displayed on the website.
This is not about things they *miss* but about things that were normal and are now a luxury. Awww, go home. Rethink your reading skills.
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I remember as a kid, where I live they would allow people to just visit an area of the airport from where they could see the runway and flights take off - they didn’t have to pay anything for it - people would spend hours just looking at flights take off and land ❤️
EDIT: To everyone saying this is still doable in many parts of the world - that’s great, I haven’t been to those parts of the world yet and where I come from one would still need to pay a certain amount to get in and watch from a glass cabin or so. Back in the day, there would just be a gate on the airport ground, a small barricade where you could just stand for hours and nobody would bother.
Plus before 9/11 kids were invited to see the cockpit and talk to pilots.
True, and they were asked if they enjoyed gladiator movies or if they had ever been in a Turkish prison
Load More Replies...When I was a baby I was taken to see the prototype Concord at Yeovil. When Concord made her last trip in to Manchester I took my baby to see the last Concord. Didn't have to pay anything
Still in a hangar at Manchester airporrt in the new aviation viewing park (now called the Runway Visitor Park). You only pay for car parking. There is a small charge to take the Concord tour and actually sit on it and see the cockpit. We used to do a classic car show there, which was free for display vehicles, so it made a good day out. I have a cracking photo of mine and a friend's car with a jet on the taxiway in the background.
Load More Replies...On hot summer nights, there was always a breeze at the airport. I used to park at the private aviation building, which had an unobstructed view of the runway. I’d sit or lay down on my car hood, enjoy the breeze, and watch the planes take off and land. I was always joined by other people—-lots of families with kids too. Good clean fun, nice way to spend an evening, cooler than in town, especially since not every house or apartment was air conditioned back then, and no one, not one single person, ever even considered climbing over the fence to mess with the planes.
Lol, where on God's green earth is this still doable??? I know it's not doable anywhere in North America. If it was we would have to watch 25 mins of Adds first. 😕
In most countries, it's just too dangerous. Portable antiaircraft missiles and firearms. You'd be surprised how many aircraft are hit by gunfire every year.
Yes! I remember we'd drive to Malton Airport near Toronto back in the '50s and spend the afternoon watching planes take off and land.----Propellers!
As a child, our family would go to the airport in Atlanta to watch the takeoffs and landings. The airport was the size of a gas station and had a flat roof for Spector's!
Pork Belly. Used to be a bad cut of meat that was disposed of or given to the poor for dirt cheap prices. Then rich people realized that the poor made it delicious, which then caused prices to skyrocket.
and have you met fajitas? skirt steak is a poor cut of meat that was dirt cheap. It would get marinaded within an inch of its life and then cut thin against the grain to make it easier to chew... then Mexican food became popular and its price shot up. A lot of 'poor man's food' had this happen to it.
Yeah this has happened with a few cuts recently. Even soup bones are getting expensive for some reason.
Fish heads too... suddenly collars and cheeks are a thing. Can people with no money have something?!
Load More Replies...Crab, lobster, scallops...all "poor people" food... suddenly the rich "discover" them, and you are paying $50 a lb.
I have yet to see a cycle where a cut ever gets cheaper. I've been watching the prices steadily rise for over 50 years. I've seen a few cuts stop being sold.
Load More Replies...If you have a "secret" cheap foodstuff then hope and pray the celebrity chefs don't start pushing it. Belly pork and monkfish used to be really cheap until the celebrity chefs started pushing them
Understandably so. They might be tasty if done right, but you're paying for a lot of bone and very little meat.
Load More Replies...Meals on domestic flights
I wish. I fly regularly in the US between the East Coast and West Coast. (In fact, I just did last week.) The flight is 5-6 hours non-stop. No meal. Just a beverage, a small bag of pretzels, and a cookie. I remember in the late 90’s they would give you a meal even on 2 hour flights.
Load More Replies...Not that I fly any more, but I did miss when the stopped serving a cooked breakfast on the morning flights. I used to do a weekly commute and there was just time to get breakfast in on the 1 hour flight, which back then was much quicker than the 4 hour drive. Next to no security on domestic flights, handbaggage only, in and out of the airport in no time.
eat just before the flight. You will survive the three or so hours it takes.
I think people don’t realize they paid for it, it wasn’t a gift. I’d rather not have meals on a 2 hour flight, pay 20whatever less and use the money to buy decent food.
Maybe I'm older than you, but meals on flights used to be part of the ticket price. They didn't cost an additional fee. Whether a meal was on a flight was usually based on the length of time the flight would take, and what time of day it was. There were no baggage fees, either. You were told "you can bring this much and put it under the seat, and this many more things that you have to check."
Load More Replies...Domestic flight in Thailand (Bangkok to Chiang Mai). newspaper/magazine service. Drink service. Full meal. one hour flight
Apartments. I could get a one bedroom apartment in the state if Wisconsin back in 1997 for under $500. Now that same apartment $1800.
The rent on my first one BR one BA apartment in an established historic neighborhood around the State Capitol Building in Raleigh, NC in 1979 was $195/month. Adjusting for inflation, that’s only about $815/month today, so still cheap. In 1979, I was making $3.45/hour, or about $14.40/hour now, and was perfectly capable of living lone. I didn’t need to have multiple roommates or squeeze into an apartment the size of my bathroom to live alone. My kitchen even had a good-sized walk-in pantry for dry goods, bottled goods, and other storage—-something I have wanted to find again ever since.
I had an apartment in Tacoma, Washington that was $275. with utilities back in the early 1990's.
You must live in one of the cities . You can still get that apartment for $500.
So, I don't know where in WI this person lives, but shopping around for apts, I found a 2 bdrm in a quiet neighborhood in MKE for 1150 all utilities included.
PC games coming with physical media, manuals, and "swag" as standard. The maps, trinkets, toys, and sometimes even novels came with games. It made the game an event. Now people just download games and they sit unplayed in a digital library until the urge to try them comes along.
I was thinking about this the other day. My Atari STe games had manuals like books with the story of the game in it. Even on PC, SimAnt had a manual section and another part dedicated to ant facts and was really interesting to read
To be fair I bought counterstrike source for Garry's mod And for like a year never played it, its a fun game too
As a Gen Z gamer this is completely foreign to me, was that a thing?!
Oh yeah. If you bought a RPG, you'd get a little map, sometimes made of cloth. Sometimes a little trinket. A manual,. Sometimes there'd be an extra book(s) for spells. Maybe a small poster type thing. And these were standard editions. Special editions could have even more.
Load More Replies...Photographs on actual photographic paper. I know its still possible but oh so rare.
I disagree. It’s not just possible, it’s incredibly easy and cheap. You can order online your printed pictures, choose the size, the quality, the material, even photo albums. You just have to do it..
Exactly! I find it much easier to do this than take them down to get them printed, but even then it is on photo paper. In fact you can get photo paper to print from your own printer (I got a heap when buying a printer).
Load More Replies...I find that digital pictures just aren’t the same. Digitalis often make people not look like themselves. Facial features don’t always look right, and people are virtually unrecognizable. Film always caught features more realistically. But that’s just my opinion.
My mom had photos up the wazoo. Then, we had a fire, long story short. I restored most of them and saved them all digitally across several backups. So, if something Fs up again, I have copies elsewhere. This is preferable in my biased opinion.
Dropping off your film roll and waiting a week to get your pictures back.
even in my small town you can print pictures in every drugstore, and bigger supermarkets.
OP, may i intrest you in fujifilm? or perhaps a disposable kodak? you can take the film roll to walgreens to get it developed when you're done whining 😍
Ooh I love this game! * Having a hot tub * Having a boat * Also: having one boat for lake fishing and another for sea fishing * Having one working parent and one parent staying home with the kids * A four bedroom house on a lake in the countryside * Having a ‘game room’ or ‘play room’ in your house * Having a bar with a pool table in your basement * A home cooked meal every night * Also, getting most of your veggies from the garden because one of your parents has enough free time to spend most of the day gardening * Situations where the parents take random classes in geology or calligraphy or whatever, just to get out of the house because they’re bored and have too much time * Every adult in the family has their own car, and sometimes one adult has a ‘project car’ * Having “shopping” or “home improvement” as a hobby. Just buying a bunch of new stuff because you can’t think of anything else to do I grew up lower-middle class in the 90s, and we had all of these things. My dad made $28-32k depending on the year, and my mom stayed home. The biggest difference was the sheer amount of free time everyone had. Edit: The biggest thing I personally miss from that era was the culture of taking classes or going to school just because you want to learn something cool. One time my mom took a six month course on how to make those glass signs with neon gas, for no reason other than “because they’re cool”. Another time she learned how to weld, and there was a solid two year period where she and a bunch of her friends from the PTA took finance/economics courses at a community college just for fun. My aunt got a Masters from RISD when she was in her 60s just because she wanted to. About a year ago I signed up for a course in auto mechanics just because I think cars are cool and wanted to know more about how they work, and the guy teaching the class was *really* weirded out and didn’t let me join because I didn’t want a career as a mechanic. This whole “education is for a job only” thing is really weird to me.
Lol, having a 10+ room house on a beautiful lake, with 5+ cars, and not one but two fishing boats has never been lower middle class. This person is delusional. And by the way, wealth and revenues are two different things.
They said a four room house. My grandparents had a three bedroom house, helped both of their children buy houses (and sent them to college), had a small fishing boat, and my grandfather was a construction worker, and my grandmother was a waitress. That was middle class back then. And I'm not that old, I was born in 1970. What the poster described was wealthier than that (who TF needs two boats and two houses?), but that's easily something I could see accessible for a college graduate back then. I think people have a different idea of what "middle class" was before, because what people think of as the "middle class" today is what we used to think of as "poor." And what "poor" is, is much poorer.
Load More Replies...I grew up in the 80s/90s and none of these things seem normal. I feel the OP was extremely privileged.
That material stuff was not normal. The experiences like eating from the garden and having a parent at home cooking meals are still common for a lot of people, though maybe it has dropped a bit.
Don't know about the extra house or boats, but this really reminded me of my mum, who took courses because she always loved making things with her hands. We have a long coffee table in our living room that's as solid as a rock thanks to her carpentry class, and numerous other projects of hers around their house, from flower arranging to macramé and then painting. My Dad used to come home at 6, and after dinner, have the whole evening free to read, watch TV or garden in summer. So many of us are working longer hours now to make ends meet that that type of free time has just disappeared.
I grew up living below the poverty line. I had none of those things except for a garden. It was the only way we could afford to put food on the table.
That really sucks. Your story immediately reminded of an episode of Frasier where Frasier and Niles take an auto mechanics course. It's the funniest one I ever saw in the entire series.
I made that much in the '90s and couldn't even afford a 2br house in Massachusetts. I had to work 20-40 hours of overtime every week for nearly a year to afford the down payment and closing costs, and I still wouldn't have been able to afford it except for an extremely strong, brief buyer's market which depressed house prices.
Living without a roommate.
Ahhh roommates. Someone always eating your food but not owning up to it. Of owning up to if but not giving a s**t.
Roommates, the people who : steal you laundry detergent, lose the TV remote, have their obnoxious friends over, eat your food,never clean up their room and "borrow" your stuff. My roommate was my BROTHER, I love him and all but being roommates was the worst.
Load More Replies...8 hours of sleep per day.
I think this just got easier. For research I don't have to go to the library anymore, for handling my stuff I don't have to be physically in the bank/post office, I even can order my shopping on similar prices. I sleep 3-4 hours more than 10 years ago and still have s**t done faster and easier.
16 hours OFF. No calls, texts, or emails demanding you do something for a fabricated “emergency” NOW, even though it could easily wait until 9am the next work day.
This! This should be number one!! Sleep is SO underrated, and SO vital to our wellbeing!
Bulls***ting your homies on the playground. Had this revelation last week when talking to my nephew. His friend told some blatant lie I guess (9 year old) and everyone pulled out their brand new iPhones to Google his lying a*s.
Remember when someone would say something and you just believed them? Even if you didn’t, you were in for an hour long argument on how it wasn’t possible for Marilyn Manson to remove his ribs to suck his own d**k.
It is a luxury because it takes either credit or popularity to just be believed these days. S**t, I doubted half my professors just because they were old.
“It takes a village” mindset. It does take a village, but unfortunately that’s all the further people will go is telling you, they aren’t actually willing to help out. It’s always “it takes a village, you’re doing great, you got this”
* Games that released mostly complete (stable) * Games that didn't have microtransactions * Games that are not live service garbage that dies less than a year later * Games that you unlock content/cosmetics through actually playing the game, and not by excessively grindy progression systems (to entice you to buy xp boosts - i.e. time skips) or by microtransactions
How about games that you put on the table and you roll a dice and move markers around the board or games that you use cards to play? Whatever happened to table games?
Have you seen the prices for tabletop war games such as Warhammer 40k or D&D these days! The more popular they become, the more expensive they become.
Load More Replies...Once I was like "Can't wait for that game to be released!". Now I am like "A new game? Is it a new Souls-like or a new Assassin's Creed?"
I think a more accurate phrase would be "Is it a Souls-like game, or an open world game?" In every period of gaming, there's always a trend that people capitalize on. The 80's and 90's had the Mascot Platformer (thanks to Sonic and Mario). The late 90's to 2000's had an abundance of first person shooters. Don't get me wrong, there are some diamonds that usually get brushed aside in these oversaturated markets, but I always crave originality with these genres.
Load More Replies...I miss that! I used to feel satisfied and can show off to my friends and parents that I have completed the whole game. Nowadays games made me losing interest in them because of above explanations in the post. For instance, Halo joined Fortnite’s culture with endless seasons/ challenges/ skins etc… that makes you feel like you are working for forever to get them all. Honestly, it kinda destroys relationship and family because those games need a lot of attention. Ugh.
Stop gaming then. I’m serious. I used to like it, not anymore for these reasons, so I stopped.
In most of those cases, those are tied primarily to online games, or games with a heavy online option. But in the case of 3 out of 4 of those listed above (minus maybe the live service games), most of those are done by stock holders or executives who pointlessly insert them into the game.
Lots of people are saying owning a house but owning anything is at this point with how much subscription services are pushed.
No idea how this wirks at your place, here (Netherlands, Germany,...) these taxes pay for waste collection, sewage, sewage treatment, salting the roads, maintaining roads, street lighting, fresh water installations and dozens of more communal services
Load More Replies...These property taxes pay for the road connecting your house to the world, and so much more. They are used for a service you definitely need.
Do you really need to be negative on literally every submission?
Load More Replies...Drinking water from the tap without filters and softeners.
Woohoo drinking from the water hose when you and your friends are playing outside! Always the best water!
Great if you like the taste of rubber! I understand the chemicals in the rubber leach out into the water, but it is not like kids are drinking from the hose everyday all day long. How bad is it really if just a few times in the summer? It can't be worse than the public drinking fountain at the park or in the schools.
Load More Replies...In the Netherlands it is not uncommon that the bottled water you buy in the supermarket is exactly the same that comes out of your tap. One can buy often two types of water, water and mineral water, the criteria for the latter are quite strict. Sparkling mineral water has to be sourced as it is, so no "artificial" sparkles
Load More Replies...I'm quite sure the water was always s**t. We just know more about how s**t it is because of technology/tests/etc.
A company-funded pension plan in the private sector. My wife's grandmother retired from one of our local health insurance companies over 30 years ago with a full pension. She's 91 and still receives her pension, although the insurance company was acquired by a larger organization a few years back. It's a modest pension, but it allows her to live a comfortable and independent life. Nowadays, companies only offer 401k or similar retirement plans. Outside of education/government, very few private sector companies offer pension. I'm fortunate enough to be employed by one that still does.
Yeah. They were great. Until execs saw free money lying around and thought, “the company needs it over here, but we will earn it back. And the scumbags who flat out pilfered them. Government had to step in. Now we are all forced to invest in the stock market for retirement and hope when you retire, the market isn’t on a downswing, cuz you’ll be stuck. So many people who retired in 2005-09 had to “in-retire”, get a job and work to make smoggy money to get by.
Going to the doctor. I’m 28 but even when I was a kid you could go to the doctor when you were sick or hurt. Now I won’t go to the doctor unless I’m dead.
If you need the doctor, go to the doctor. It could be more serious than ot looks. Doctors are smarter than Google 👩⚕️
Why? There may be some delay if you need a specialist but it’s completely free. Why won’t you go if you need it?
It is still possible to do this in Australia, if you are in the city/suburbs. If you are in a rural area it is harder, I have to book roughly 6 days ahead, but I have a second doctor in the suburbs I can go to if I need to go in on the day generally, if I can make the 1.5hr drive. Otherwise there is telehealth appointments if you don't need a face to face appointment.
Been trying to get health insurance myself. Without any luck. Need it badly due to my health declining. Health care is outrageous in US.
Canned soup. It used to be super cheap but now it’s $5/6 a can.
I have seen more expensive canned soup, but it's always the "fancier" stuff. Plain old tomato soup, basic chicken noodle or cream of mushroom is still cheap as.
Where do you buy your soup?? Amazon: Campbell's Condensed Chicken Noodle Soup, 10.75 oz. Can Price: $1.26
Friggin wings... They had 25 cent wing nights all over the place. Not only that they were extremely cheap. A huge bag was < $10 if you wanted to smoke them. $20 was more than enough for a party where people at 20+ each.
As with fajitas, they became popular and thus there was money to be made... no longer poor man's food...
Chicken wings used to be $.10/lb back in the 1980's. I used to buy 40 lbs of them at a time. My wife & I would make chicken & dumplings from them, or bake them in the oven for dinner. Nowadays, wings are $4.50/lb on sale if you're lucky.
well chicken farts and all that so now the cost eighty bucks a wing.
Not getting felt-up at airports.
And after that, getting felt up at the airport is kinda fun.
Load More Replies...Nothing - 30 years ago the stores were empty, so even if you had money - you needed connections to get what you wanted. You needed access to the black market for dishwasher liquid. Chocolate and oranges were Christmas presents for almost every child born in the late 80s and bananas were such a luxury when they strted appearing year round people were acting like they're insane wen they saw them. If you wanted to travel, you needed to apply for visas for literally everywhere. 30 years ago life was a horror show! Now, you don't even need a passport to travel to almost 40+ countries - just pack your s**t and go... Vacation in Greece? Start the car and you'll be on the beach in 4 hours. Venice carnival? No problem, just get the plane tickets while they're cheaper than the petrol to the airport...
This! I remember going to the black market in Warsaw (behind the fire station) to buy fresh carrots and tinned tuna brought in from West Germany. SuperSam supermarket only had pickled squashes and candies guaranteed, usually potatoes, milk and butter; anything else was a bonus.
This was life under communism! I have a friend from Bulgaria who said growing up she didn’t know if there would be food to eat that day. Money is useless when store shelves were empty. Russian defectors to the United States were convinced the US government was lying to them when they saw grocery stores loaded with produce and food and demanded to see where the real people lived.
? I was a teenager in the ‘80’s and none of this applies….I went to Europe in ‘85, no problems 🤷♀️
Where exactly in Eastern Europe were you? I was in Poland and this definitely all applied.
Load More Replies...I am confused. You could everything at the supermarket & shelves full. Today it is overloaded with a lot of different brands.
It was reality in Comunist Union countries. Production was planed for 5-10 years, not for actual demand and western goods were in special shops buyed for "coupons" not for money, which created black market focused on it.
Load More Replies...Having your own row on an aircraft.
My first flight I was so nervous- I was a 15 year old flying alone and as an afab person I was scared some creep would sit next to me. I got lucky, there was a seat between me and the guy in my row... I don't see why you'd need a whole row to yourself to be honest. Having one seat between me and the other person was more than enough- though I suppose it does depend on who you're sharing the row with.
Customer loyalty. Rewarding long term customers instead of offering better deals to new customers. Companies focusing on product quality instead of increased profits. Looking at you Apple! You abandoned your own philosophy about providing quality products ahead of profits. Music artists being artistic, creative and individual. Cornbeef and spam.
I honestly didn't know about a lot of these things, thanks for opening my eyes 🤯🤯
Furniture that is made with not only real wood, but solid techniques. The last time I saw a drawer that meet the corners with dovetails it was at an antique shop. The only thing I can think of is companies want to make it just shoddy enough that we can question if it fell apart so soon because we did something wrong putting it together.
It really annoys me that items are posted as 'wood' on FB marketplace when they are clearly particleboard. Can these people not tell?
Load More Replies...Why do these blasted spammers keep posting on BP, when they get downvoted so quickly?
Customer loyalty. Rewarding long term customers instead of offering better deals to new customers. Companies focusing on product quality instead of increased profits. Looking at you Apple! You abandoned your own philosophy about providing quality products ahead of profits. Music artists being artistic, creative and individual. Cornbeef and spam.
I honestly didn't know about a lot of these things, thanks for opening my eyes 🤯🤯
Furniture that is made with not only real wood, but solid techniques. The last time I saw a drawer that meet the corners with dovetails it was at an antique shop. The only thing I can think of is companies want to make it just shoddy enough that we can question if it fell apart so soon because we did something wrong putting it together.
It really annoys me that items are posted as 'wood' on FB marketplace when they are clearly particleboard. Can these people not tell?
Load More Replies...Why do these blasted spammers keep posting on BP, when they get downvoted so quickly?
