“Being Able To Fix Things Yourself”: 30 Things Young People Find Odd That Used To Be Normal
InterviewIt seems like social norms change annually, nowadays. It can be exhausting and confusing trying to keep track of how we’re supposed to behave in various situations, but for young people who haven’t been around to see these societal shifts, what they’ve observed is completely normal. We all have cell phones, we all should have social media accounts, and we should all be available 24/7.
Older generations, however, have a harder time accepting some of the changes that have come along, and recently, Redditors have been sharing some of the things they wish would become normalized again. Below, you’ll find some of their most insightful responses, so enjoy reading through and be sure to upvote all of the thoughts you agree with.
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The art of conversation. Just because I disagree with you on something doesn’t mean I don’t respect you.
As opposed to universities cancelling guest speakers because students don't agree with the speaker's point of view, even if said speaker did not insult any groups, or give dangerous advice, and stated that their opinion was an opinion.
Load More Replies...I admire those who disagree with me as long as they've thought about WHY they disagree. Sadly those with the strongest opinions and loudest voices have no idea WHY they think the way they do..
Yep, just knee jerk reactions from unexamined beliefs
Load More Replies...Depends on what the disagreement is about, to be fair. If, for instance, you think that certain people don't deserve the same fundamental rights as everyone else, then we really won't be able to find common ground. But if you think dachshunds make better house pets than Rottweilers, we can agree to disagree.
As long as your beliefs aren't about wanting to take away someone's basic human rights then I'm fine with others having a different opinion. It really depends on the topic.
This. If someone calls basic human rights 'an opinion,' or tries to both-sides Equality, 🚩🚩🚩
Load More Replies...It's one of my pet hates, if I'm arguing/debating with someone and they get caught out but rather than accepting it say something like "we should stop this now otherwise we're going to have a falling out". Mate, I just gave you a hypothetical situation based on a point you made, just because it makes your point moot you're going to run away and sulk? Maybe consider your point of view migh possibly be wrong and concede it.
One of the prison chaplains was a very good man. He was intelligent, quick with a joke, and he and I think a lot alike. I was an atheist at the time, but I very much enjoyed talking to him, and he to me. I found it fascinating where our thoughts coincided, and how they differed at the end. We had many a good debate.
I'm an atheist and I love talking to people of various religions. It really is fascinating
Load More Replies...Depends on what it is. I recently discovered a close male friend, I considered him a brother, had truly disturbing views on what is consent. I ended the friendship. We disagreed on all kinds of things, like gun ownership, social programs etc. But his idea of consent was a stance I couldn't be near.
Remember when people used to give disclaimers about their beliefs? Someone would say, “I don’t think this is good for your heart, but I’m not a cardiologist.” We were upfront about our naivety and it was okay. Now it’s, “my aunt reads WebMD so she knows that vaccines change your DNA!”
You can disagree on pizza, the football game, how good a movie is-and respect one another. You, by definition, CANNOT disagree about who gets human rights and claim to respect the other person.
At this point I see “people don’t tolerate disagreement about ANYTHING these days!” as a dog whistle for “how dare people not want to hear me say racist c**p!”
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Not being accessible all the time. Just because I have a cellphone doesnt mean I want to answer it at the supermarket, or while cooking dinner. Or while driving. Thats cool that my boss checks emails in his tesla driving 20 mins to work but I would rather not. I need a break
Before cell phones, if someone didn't answer the phone we'd just say, "Oh, they're not home," and that was normal. Nowadays, I wish it was just as normal to say, "Oh, they're not answering their phone," and just leave it at that.
If i dont answer the phone, its because im not mentally home. Im in my happy place, relaxing
Load More Replies...if it goes to voicemail then consider it sent to purgatory.....I simply don't respond, reply or indeed listen to it , 🤔 perhaps I should do a voicemail message " welcome to voicemail, your message will now be lost to purgatory" 🤔.... then again I'll probably not bother anyway 🤔
Load More Replies...Your phone is a tool. You are not it's slave. It's perfectly acceptable not to answer your phone, and if others don't like it that's their problem not yours. And no, it's not cool to answer texts while you're driving. It's selfish, dangerous and every bit as bad as drunk driving. Don't do that.
This. There are a lot of ways that I think people have forgotten they are the boss of their own lives. If you're afraid that you'll forget to get back to it, then talk to the assistant on the phone and have it set a reminder for you tomorrow (or whatever).
Load More Replies...There are a few people that are baffled that I'm not sitting next to the phone, ready to jump and answer their call when in actuality, once I get home after diligently checking it for 10 hours, I leave it on a counter and go into Do Not Disturb mode to zen myself back out.
And if you don't answer, you get an increasingly hysterical series of texts. FFS, I was in the shower. Relax.
Or maybe even get a life without it for, say 30 minutes.
Load More Replies...Ugh I rarely have my phone in the same room as me, why does it upset everyone?
Classes in high school like wood shop, home economics, culinary, machine shop, etc and just trade school training in general for those who don’t want to go to college.
US: standardized test scores are tied to funding, so no time for skill development (either manual or critical thinking). Kids learn that life is only about obedience to ham-fisted metrics analysis.
We can thank George Bush for that and his No Child Left Behind program he signed into law during his first presidency. 😒😒 And that's why I quit teaching. I taught reading and math to the lowest 20%, 3-5th grade at a low income school. My kids weren't learning shìt using the core curriculum so I taught them vedic math strategies and they picked it up IMMEDIATELY! They were suddenly having success in their home room class!!! One of their teachers asked what I did that these kids have done a 180° and I told her "vedic math". I was asked to please stop teaching that cuz it's not on the standardized test. So I let them know that would be my last year teaching; I can't actively stiffle my kids' learning, fùck that! They've created a system to keep the populace stupid and inept cuz stupid people = a cheap labor force.
Load More Replies...EVERY graduate I know who goes into trade school generally has work before completion. Trades are SCREAMING for people. I tell students they can start at 45k/yr with little or no debt and they jump on it.
Vocation and trade schools are important and more are needed.
Load More Replies...I was the first female to take the auto shop classes and autobody classes offered in my high school. I didn't pursue it as a career, just wanted to know the basics and to be aware if someone was trying to rip me off when I took my car in for service that I couldn't do myself. Some people might look down their nose at someone's going to trade school to learn to be a plumber, however even the highest executive is going to panic when that toilet water just keeps rising and rising...
Most Australian high schools have all or most of those? My school had engineering, metalwork, woodwork, home economics(cooking, sewing, etc), business and careers classes, and a lot more, including quite a few classes for certificates in hospitality and other things. That was a rural school as well
Mine too! I don't like that they have removed the Vocational Certificate of Applied Learning out of schools though.
Load More Replies...My teen is in an auto shop class now, and it's their favorite part of the day. I love that they are learning a trade that will always be in demand, pays well, and that they are thrilled with.
Still the commenter seeing this as second best. We should view this as they do in Germany where people are encouraged to do such things and they are respected for doing so. I was told that they so greatly respect engineers (you have to get approval to even be CALLED an engineer) that you use it as part of your name in the same way a professor would. So instead of Professor Schmidt it would be Engineer Schmidt..
Odd. Just checked two different HS systems in two different states and both have vocation programs. One a red state, the other blue.
I have lived in AL, GA, and FL... nearly all tge schools down here have career tech/early trade schools to help transition into adulthood. People who say otherwise are out of touch.
Load More Replies...Maybe the schools in the Midwest United States are different, but all the schools I've taught in or visited during college taught these kinds of classes. They aren't called the same thing they were when I was in school, though. Now they are called Family and Consumer Sciences, Industrial Technology, and Agriculture Sciences.
My school has a trade school attached so you can get a high school and trade a school education
Those classes, in hindsight teach and expose you to many useful things that you need throughout your life. Even just knowing how to use a hammer or sew a button.
We reached out to the Reddit user who posed the question, "What things are seen as weird by the younger generation that we need to normalize again?" and lucky for us, u/Kvassalskaren55 was happy to have a chat with Bored Panda.
As far as what inspired him to start this conversation, he shared that he was just bored on a Saturday and decided to post something on Reddit. "I thought of a question to post in r/askreddit, but I had no idea that it would get this popular," the OP shared.
Can we re-normalize using headphones while listening to music or watching videos in public? Please? I should be able to study on campus without having to listen to someone else's s**t. I can't even go to the campus library without someone blasting their s**t.
Obviously not old enough to remember 'ghetto blasters' (yup, REALLY called that) These were extremely large radio cassettes with big speakers played at full volume everywhere from the 70s onwards until personal stereos became a thing. Before that it was 'portable wireless radios' These go back to the early 60s. Again, people have ALWAYS been a******s..
Let's not forget the ubiquitous car stereo blasting bass at every intersection in metropolitan cities. The Murhy's Law corollary that says " The louder the car stereo, the worst the taste in music."
Load More Replies...Omg please I don't understand how people aren't embarrassed - I've only listened to music out loud as away from others as possible and only because my friend wanted to listen too
Agree! And old enough to remember ghetto blasters and the previous ones... But I'm more horrified here that Music is being blasted in a library!! 😮😮😮
Also love the people that scream to each other on speaker phone with the phone up to their mouth. #1 just because the world can hear the person on the other side of the phone, doesn't mean you have to raise your voice as well. #2 I really don't feel everyone needs or wants to hear what Felicia and Brad did behind the dumpster...🤷♂️
Ohhhhh.....this makes my blood boil. What makes people think we all want to hear that? And what if we all did it? At work there are quite a few people who talk on speaker phone or listen to music. I have a fantasy...that I go over and sit next to them, turn on a gospel-y praise worship service with lots of "Amens" and speaking in tongues, and engage in the service. Nothing wrong with that, for sure! So not knocking it, but it would be a kind of busy, noisy distraction and a good example of what these fine lunch ruiners do to me!
For old people sometimes they have to do it and Bluetooth headphones can be kinda janky to set up
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Being able to fix things yourself-sew hems and small holes, fix a toilet or garbage disposal, etc
We NEED to bring back home economics and wood shop as required classes in high school or middle school for ALL students. This would help so many young adults get their first steps in basic life skills.
Back when I was in school, Home Economics and Sewing were only for girls and Woodwork and Metalwork were only for boys. My very first Home Ec class was "How to iron a Man's shirt". I kid you not.
Load More Replies...Being poor forces one to learn how to fend for oneself. With so many Youtube how to do it videos, there really is no excuse for not being able to fix a running toilet.
I see these as choices. You can either stare at your phone or a tv or you can learn to be self sufficient (and, inadvertently, save yourself money). Shìt, you can actually learn to do practically everything just from YouTube videos.....so you can learn something AND watch some cute critter videos simultaneously!
How to videos with a cute animal animation style. Now we're onto something.
Load More Replies...I don't think kids are encouraged to do things for themselves anymore. Growing up and even now, it is so much cheaper to repair your own vehicle than to take it to a shop.
How about a "Moving Away From Home" class? How to read a bank statement, patch the jeans, sew a new buckle on a leather strap, check your hot water heater's pilot light, unclog a toilet, change a tire, change a baby's diaper (nappy), peel carrots, drive a nail, the names of basic tools and how to use them, scramble and/or fry an egg, hand wash dishes, scrub a bathtub or shower walls, how to safely wash your clothes, and other basic life skills we folks over 40 can remember how to do, and still do to this day.
My task for today is sewing elastic into my son's new pants so they fit him better. I may not be anywhere near good enough to make clothes, but at least I can do that!
What we call utility sewing, next come holloween costumes. My mom started teaching her son's basic sewing when we were under ten. We taught our kids. We thought our kids. Some of my teen friends could mend and repair. Some of my kids friends could mend and repair. Nothing has changed.
Load More Replies...Home Ec, wood shop, cooking, metalworking, auto shop - should all be combined into a DIY class for all students. Teach them basic mends/repairs and household skills.
I agree it would be great to have these classes available but aren’t some of these things they can learn at home?
It's stuff you *should* be able to learn at home, but some people don't have a helpful home life (or even a home). If my dad had won custody in the divorce, I wouldn't be able to boil water.
Load More Replies...We were also curious what Kvassalskaren55 would answer to his own question. "I think we should normalize talking to each other more," he shared. "I think today’s generation is missing out on getting to know people face to face. You never know who is behind the screen, it could be anyone."
On the other hand, the OP is appreciative that homophobia has become much less socially acceptable. "Everyone should be able to love whoever they want without facing backlash," he told Bored Panda.
Not having everything you do in public recorded.
Two random people arguing? Gotta record it.
Bad car wreck? Don't help. record.
Natural disaster? Don't run, stay and document it until someone has to rescue you, then get the rescue for maximum likes.
Same with concerts. I don't understand how people can't just watch a concert and enjoy it. Does anyone ever go back and watch their phone footage anyway?
I follow / like musicians who play mostly small, local gigs but they have international presence thanks to social media. I’ll record a song or two, I’m a dab hand at steady, decent filing from sneaky positions so I don’t disturb others enjoyment of the gig, I’ll then upload them for folk who have no chance to see the band / artist live. On the other hand I went to see P!nk and only took a couple of photos, there’s plenty of top quality gig footage of her!
Load More Replies...This right here, Saw the Waters concert in Portland OR, idiot twit in front of me (30 minutes late to show) proceeded to hold their phone and record the entire concert. Blocked my view, waste of 160 bucks on the ticket.
My niece had to post a picture of their meals on facebook whenever her family went out for dinner.
Soft disagree; everyone having a camera has exposed things that should never have been allowed to happen (ex. police abusing their authority)
Concerts today are ruined by hundreds of bright screens shoved high in the air, typically they are all young..
This has also helped a lot of people, like against bad cops. I am perfectly fine with keeping to the fact it is 100% legal to photograph or film anyone in public. Only despotic governments prohibit that. How about people just not do things they would be ashamed of in public?
This is why I don't like social media like tiktok. This s**t is getting ridiculous.
Also, selfies. Are you that arrogant or conceited that your mug has to appear on EVERYTHING, with the thing that you are photographing only being some afterthought? Or are selfists just really scared that they forget how they look like?
Affordable housing.
Wall Street investors have been buying up housing all over the country just to make money on excessive rents and the tight housing market, which they contributed to making.
They really are gonna make us pick a random one to eat just to scare the rest into behaving and stopping f*****g up society (worse than it was, I mean)
Load More Replies...I live in a duplex and rent the other apartment out for 950 a month - 4-bedrooms with heat, hot water, electricity, and parking included. I don't pay for the internet or cable. A single mom with little kids lives there so I won't go up on the rent until she wants to go. I did that with my previous tenant - she paid $450 a month for years and was able to save up and buy her own home.
My field doesn't pay the best (linguistics), but I thought that I would at least be able to find a cute little place within my budget. I wanted to cry a couple days ago when I was shown an apartment that was about $1,550.00 USD (not including facilities) that didn't even have a damned oven or stove. I asked if it would be installed and the rental agent said that she could just get me a hot-plate and a small confectionary oven. I was appalled. And I thought that flats in the UK were high-way robbery. I honestly wake up with anxiety anymore and feel like I've failed for working my a*s off in life yet not being able to afford a nice apartment in my area. Christ, I have to be a doctor, lawyer, accountant, or work in IT to find something...
Load More Replies...We JUST got our rent paid. It was so stressful not paying it. I was afraid.
Housing has never really been "affordable" for your average American. I'm 47 and I remember my parents struggling, both working 2 jobs struggling to pay rent. The same with myself....
Unpopular, but this topic is complex. Especially when going all "ok boomer, it was easy in your time". One needs to compare the location, the wage/rent ratio and the type of housing the average person foubd acceptable to live in back then and wants to live in now. And this relies heavily on social class, what is seen as acceptable living circumstances and the living space available. Whenever possible, consider if moving to a different town or even area can solve that problem. In some cases this opens new opportunities
But why should we have to move to another city for affordable housing? Everywhere should have affordable housing.
Load More Replies...This is a big one for me my husband and I have been looking for a year. Everyone wants 8 or 9 hundred dollars a month. That may sound cheap but we are both disabled so that rent means we have a place to stay but probably no food or bills.
Should be number one!!! It's just disgusting the price of housing and such low quality at high prices as well. ...when I think about my grandparents ordering their house,basically, for $10k from sears catalog. And Grandpa n his friends built it on weekends for 6 months. These houses 70years later that were built then in that way still standing are for sale for $300-400,000. It's just sick.n then here around those they just keep building super high end apartments or condos,(n so many cannabis shops) with no affordable housing going up! For every high end building they should have to have subsidized units mandatory. Should n law everywhere. So sad
As far as his thoughts on the responses to his post, Kvassalskaren55 says he agreed with many of them. "There were a few that surprised me," he noted. "Those were the ones where people said that they were tired of people thinking that they are available at all times. That they need a break."
Having the decency and manners to verbally cancel plans or say you’ll be late in a timely fashion that’s respectful of the other person’s time and effort, instead of framing ghosting people as some kind cute personality quirk.
Being stood up or ditched on a date are as old as dating itself, but the RSVP was a contract that could only be violated at the peril of never receiving any future invitations
I love the way you worded this. Sounds like a narrator of Good Omens or Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy.
Load More Replies...Sometimes, though, ghosting is your only option. I recently ghosted and blocked a guy after he completely ignored the boundaries I'd set multiple times. My ghosting him wasn't rude; his behavior was.
That isn't what's being spoken about here. They are saying if you are going to be late say if you can know longer show upto a event, date, meet up with friends say so people don't worry where you are.
Load More Replies...We've invited people over to cookouts (after they'd said they wanted to be included) and they either hadn't shown up or canceled at the very last minute. My SO loves cooking for others and goes to a lot of effort and spending for his cookouts, so if our guests decide to gives us the modern treatment, they get the old fashioned one: they'll no longer be invited. Simple as that.
People who normalize "personality quirks" are the problem. It shouldn't be a thing.
Being quiet at the movies.
Yes! I went to Ghostbusters Afterlife, and there were people talking the. Whole. Time. A person even answered a phone call.
😯😑 they do need a message in the beginning, do not talk or do any sounds.. 😝
Load More Replies...Its not the talking its undisciplined children kicking seats and misbehaving
Same here. Last time I went to a movie theater was 30+ years ago. I just couldn't stand all the chatting that went on throughout the movie. Waste of my money.
Load More Replies...SERIOUSLY! WTF is wrong with people these days?! I almost got in a fist fight at the movies with this rando chick because I had the AUDACITY to tell her boyfriend who took a call in the middle of the movie to take it outside! That was ten years ago and I'm still at a loss.
Actually owning the things you buy. Having the right to tinker with your devices.
Too damned many companies jumping on the product as a service bandwagon and it needs to stop. For instance, you pay (typically dearly) for a option on your new car, but you then need to pay a fee/subscription to use it? Not in this world, that's absurd.
The subscription thing? Yeah, dumb as s**t. The fee? Think about it for a bit. When you buy a new car, there's a base price, and then you get to add the features you want, which increase the price. This has always, always, always been the case. The number of people that opt for luxury features is comparatively small, and even among those that do there are still variations. Leaving manufactures to either guess as to which feature to stick in a given number of cars, or having to customize based on order, which ups the manufacturing cost, which....raises the price of ALL the cars they make. Making every car fully loaded, simplifies the manufacturing process which lowers the price, and those opting for the extra features subsidize the cost of those that don't. It doesn't matter if there's a disabled feature there, if it wouldn't have been included in the config for the price you paid. You're not losing out on anything, because you never would have paid for it.
Load More Replies...I still want hard copies of my favorite books, music, and films if at all possible.
Digital music and books. Can't pass it on when you read a book, costs about the same even though there's no cost to print or have a place to sell it.
Costs the same because the person that worked on it needs money for creative effort even without the costs of distribution.
Load More Replies...I read BMW recently gave up on making heated car seats a subscription service--which is great--but I am sure they'll find some other way to nickel-and-dime people.
You had to subscribe to heated seats?? I hate this timeline.
Load More Replies...Subscriptions to software is ridiculous. At least when you had a disk of some kind you could install the software without all the hoops and could do it without an Internet connection. They had air gapped computers (purposely not connected to the internet) that could still do things. You bought the software rather than renting. And now they are doing the same to cars and other products.
I used to have an iPod Touch, and with all the apps and stuff stripped off, the back-up of the device exceeded the storage space on the device, forcing me to pay $0.99/month for cloud space to store the back-up. It was such a petty and stupid thing to have to pay for.
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Not having social media. Apparently now not being on whatever sites is a red flag.
You can quit when exercising self control and genuinely admitting to yourself how wasteful and harmful "social" media is to your life. People quit using hard drugs...you can quit diddling your phone, I know you have that much will power.
Load More Replies...Same. I think people who have multiple social media accounts are a bit weird
Load More Replies...I hear you! As someone who has ADHD and anxiety, Facebook was toxic. I was constantly comparing myself to other people who were married, having children, or going on fancy vacation. I felt like it was a constant competition and just got so burned out from it. I tried going off it for a couple of months and that couple of months turned into five years. I did really use to love Instagram as there were some amazing photographers that I followed, but now I feel like it is just a bunch of advertisements. If I'm not posting reels of every moment of my life, nobody seems to give a damn which is pretty sad...
Load More Replies...Neither me nor my husband has social media. We used to but it caused so much drama we both agreed to quit. Which all I had was Facebook anyways. I never could get into the other's.he had everything under the sun. Once we quit using them though 99% of our problems disappeared as well.
I can proudly say I haven't had social media accounts since MySpace. No FB, Insta, Snap....nada....and I love not having that self-created drama in my life.
I guess I'm a huge red flag. I ditched ALL forms of "social media" 5 years ago. Then 3 years ago, I ditched my cell phone. I have an email address that I check twice a day and I have ZERO regrets. 🚩
I guess some Gen Zs and Millennials see it as weird to not be on social media? Whereas lots of us over 40 see it as unnecessary. Definitely a generational difference.
I'm a Millennial I am 41, 1981 is the year Millennial generation began. I don't have any social media accounts. I have 0 interest . I don't think it's a generational difference. My aunts are all over 60 years old and all our on facebook and ask me why I'm not on it. It's just a people difference not generational.
Load More Replies...I have been called weird many times when I have asked what certain websites were, I remember asking what Snapchat was and the other kids probably thought I was stupid
Or, they just thought it was a little odd since so many people know and they didn't think that someone their own age wouldn't know. Not that deep.
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Repairing and looking after clothes and shoes!
And stop the piles of clothes going to landfill. Throwaway culture needs to cease.
To be fair, throwaway culture is more a result of "fast fashion" which is absolute trash quality, if any of it lasts a year it's an incredible feat, most start falling apart inside 6 months. But people don't care because they're spending $5/10/20 on some trendy PoS that's going to be "out of style" in a few months anyway. Garbage cloths for garbage people. Meanwhile, i a large portion of my wardrobe has been in circulation since i was 15....25 years ago, and all of it is in better condition after that 25 years then something new is after 6 months.
Load More Replies...People did this because clothes were horrifyingly expensive. The amount of clothes owned by a normal person were way less than half of what we would have now. You can still repair clothes and shoes now but it WILL be cheaper to buy new. This is of course unless you are rich enough to buy the very best of clothing and footwear..
The standard best will do, and not wanting to go with every fashion hype. I still wear clothes that are 30 to 40 years old (yay for loving the oversized look back then), and every 10 years I am hip. These are not mega-fancy things, nor were they very expensive. And they went in the washing machine and dryer at least once a week.
Load More Replies...The fact is, while you can repair some clothes and shoes today, most of them are literally made to be disposable and can't be repaired. If you do repair them, I can pretty much guarantee the repair will end up lasting longer than the rest of the garment around it.
That's what I was thinking. The clothes back then were probably worth the time and money to repair.
Load More Replies...I grew up poor learning how to fix and make things yourself was a necessity. All of my school clothes in elementary were sewn on an old sewing machine with fabric gifted to my mom from my great aunt. I learned how to sew and mend at a very young age to this day I would rather fix things than throw things away.
I can repair clothes, and when I'm done with clothes or they just don't fit anymore I give them to a thrift store, then someone else can wear them
Hrowing up dirt poor has given me the brains of a 1800's pioneer. 😂 haha poverty trauma (if I don't laugh, I'll end up crying.)
I wear my shoes and clothes until they're literally falling apart lol
Still do it.. Youth just keep buying new, while crying about the environment, rich.. Lol
That's not new. My older cousin throws away stuff for missing buttons or if it's too wrinkled. Not even kidding. She says she has more money than time. I say she's just lazy.
My grandfather was a tailor, my grandmothers sewed clothes, fixing stuff - even creating things like quilts - is second nature.
Being able to handle the slightest bit of social interaction. I’ve met some Gen Z who damn near have panic attacks when making a call for delivery, let alone speaking to people they don’t know in public. Some seem to think every interaction with a stranger is potentially life threatening. The anxiety levels in that generation are off the charts.
I find the introvert memes tendency horrifying and relatable at the same time. Being an introvert myself I understand the struggle, but it seems to me it's getting worse and worse, triggering anxiety if you just let it be your lifestyle.
This is because they no longer have to have the regular conversations and interactions that used to be a part of life - even if you were shy, you had to speak to the lady in the local newsagent's if you wanted anything, the bus driver, the neighbours... and you had to phone for so many other things, now it's all online. Now you can pop into a supermarket, pick up what you want without having to talk to anyone, and pay by card without saying much at all. We were shy kids, but these little things build up your confidence, especially when shopkeepers are generally nice to you and build your trust in older people. My kids were also a bit shy, but if we were out, I'd get them to ask the waiter or shopkeeper for something, not do it all for them
It's simply more acceptable now to be introverted. It used to be considered a character flaw. Extroverts were considered the ideal and many people tried desperately to appear that way. But extroversion is no more common that introversion and most of us are somewhere in the middle but being accepted a little more than we used to be..
Remember introversion, that means recovering in private not in a group or distressing in private not any group, is not the same as social anxiety
I am awfully introverted myself and hate making phone calls for example, but there is an alarming tendency in young people to shun any kind of interaction, other than on the social media and texting.
This is when they should be in therapy, this isn't the majority of people
As someone with social anxiety I understand both sides. Just staying in your safe bubble don't help in any way, but being forced to suddenly do too much unfamiliar social things can also make it much worse.
There have always been people with these issues, but I think it's worse now. We grow up being taught to fear strangers, to be cautious of social interaction, that anything outside the four walls of our home is a potential danger. It's not only parents, either, but TV, schools, books, even strangers that we do interact with.
It also seems to apply to making a decision; a few weeks back at work I asked a girl (Gen Z from the looks of it) a simple "option A or B" question I ask anyone I deal with, and she began to mildly freak out and quickly walked off. Took her a full TEN MINUTES to make a choice. This is what happens what you spend all day locked indoors on the internet and not actually socializing with people. It's really sad.
Normalize again, you say? That implies older generations were better at it then nowaday youngsters, but were they really, though? Or was it just that people openly admitting they feel uneasy having to interact with strangers were few, because that kind of confession would certainly cause significant backlash, since people didn't know or care much about things like neurodiversity?
Knowing how to cook, even if that knowledge exists so you don't starve.
Agree knowing how to cook is a learnable skill you don’t need to be a chef.
I work for a foodbank and the amount of people who come in saying that they can't cook so need microwave meals. And no sadly I don't just mean that they have a lack of facilities either.
Load More Replies...My mother is 70 this year and she doesn't know how to cook. She heats or defrosts in the microwave. She dislikes cooking and her family suffered for it until I took over at 12. I only realized later on that it was ridiculous to expect her to cook every night because she's the woman or the mom. She was tired and unenthusiastic. I enjoyed the kitchen so I used that to cook properly. She could probably put together a baked potato these days but it would be best if you don't eat it.
Makes me think of the Danish queen who said (translated) "You may survive my cooking, but i doubt you would survive my driving". I am sure a lot of peopel didn't think that she would be cooking herself.
Load More Replies...Everyone who dates should have one dish they can do well. If you want to impress invite them over for you signature dish. Much better than proving you can drive through a fast-food restaurant or order GrubHub.
Only if you are honest up front that its the only thing you know how to cook. I told my husband when we were dating that I HATE cooking, but love to bake. 25 yrs later he knows not to ever expect dinner but he knows there will be dessert.
Load More Replies...Well, that what recipes are for. Give me one and try my darndest to follow it. But the clean up is what makes it not worth it to me...
For recipes, Google is your best friend. I consider myself lucky that I was able to find diabetic websites that help me to control my blood sugar levels.
Easy to get delivered fast food (well, easIER) Microwaved food. But back then it was being able to cook a whole dinner out of tins - took a few mins longer. Tins have been with us for over a century. When we look at the past we look at OUR experience of it - ie being fed food cooked from scratch - rather than the experience of a single adult who cooked from tins every day..
I'm a picky eater, Meat, pizza, potatoes, a salad, a sand which that's the extent of my food interests. My wife, loves food, has no interest in cooking, and grew up dirt poor so didn't experience much in the way of variety. So i learned to cook so as to cook for her at 30 years old.. Things that i will never, ever eat. My first undertaking? A turkey/chicken soup that takes 14 hours to make, and once it's sat in the fridge overnight, solidifies into jello firm enough that you can cut slices out of it. Of all the things i've cooked for her, and there have been....just so many, that is by far her favorite.
People believe I'm a great cook, 'cause I know how to bake bread...
I feel like u can't just talk to random people anymore. No one seems approachable. My mum talks to anyone wether she knows them or not. I notice alotnof the older generations are much more open to random chit chat
Some people just don't want to be bothered when they're trying to go about their day.
That's the problem. Neighborly chitchat is considered a nuisance. Sigh.
Load More Replies...I still talk to random people. Sometimes it ends up being a full blown conversation
Oh f**k, you go up to people just to ask a simple question about the area you're in or ask them where they got a cool item they have and they look at you as if you're about to murder them. Wish people could just chill tf out a tad.
I'm 50/50 if I agree with you. On one hand, I will make conversations with anyone that returns a smile. If stopped and asked how to get somewhere, I might recommend a restaurant or a cool store to check out. However, more people are acting as if the world revolves around them and everyone else is using their oxygen. Like, OMG my neighbor's flowers are yellow, I hate yellow so I'm coming at both the flower and the residents with a hoe. So on the other hand, "are they about to murder me?" is in the back of my mind. Some ppl just can't hide the fear part as well.
Load More Replies...Since I've got my own babies 👶 now, I often get stopped for a conversation about them. Mostly it's the older generations, and I honestly kind of enjoy being held up for 20 minutes in a store aisle by a grandparent. Some people just need someone to talk to, I've heard so many amazing stories :') it's crazy what someone will tell a complete stranger.
Its a nice break from the monotony of life thats for sure
Load More Replies...Wife and I Southerners born and bred (UK). Just moved to Lancashire, people are so much more friendly. Walk along the seafront in Thornton Cleveleys, everyone says hello. Walk along Hove seafront in Sussex, they ignore you with passion and dedication.
Lol. When you said “Southerners” I thought you meant the American South. We don’t have this problem here. We talk to everyone. You can always tell a “transplant” as they won’t talk to you! Takes no effort to be kind. If you’re in a hurry simply say “I enjoyed speaking with you but I have to run, I’m in a hurry “. Other person will smile and wish you a good day.
Load More Replies...Come to the awful and terrible USA where most anyone is friendly and willing to chat with ya!
The hustle culture needs to go. We need to normalize working while keeling in touch with family and friends, not working yourself to death. Also, how about lowering house price, eh? It’s a dwelling, not a money making machine.
A house used to be a home not an investment for profit. It annoys me when real estate agents talk about selling a home, it is the house not the home being sold.
This is really not true. Buying a house was always seen as an investment, with a reasonable expectation that its value would increase over time. I first bought a house in 1981 and it's really not changed very much in the 40+ years since then.
Load More Replies...having hobbies without monetizing them. I should be able to knit without "Starting an Etsy store" or "selling on Facebook".
I read an article the other day from Realtor stating Millennials should be the dominating housing buyers, but it is an average of people 59. The house my parents bought in 2013 cost them $280k, the current market values it at $600k+ The median house price in AZ where I is roughly $400k. How are the younger generations supposed to make it in this world?
Lmao if we were actually set up for success sure but we definitely were not
Load More Replies...The future for this seems very depressing. I shouldn't have to work 24/7 just to SURVIVE. I live in a society to get all of its benefits, but those benefits are going away and society wants to suck the money out of its members and work them until they die. Excuse me, but I want to work some of the time and enjoy my life for the rest of the time. I want balance. I don't want to be a wage slave, barely hanging on, living paycheck to paycheck. I want free time for myself and to spend time with my loved ones. Capitalism is sucking the souls out of people and turning into husks that churn out money for them but don't get to enjoy the fruits of their labor.
I paid $50,000 for my house. It was the reasonable market rate at the time. The same stupid house is worth 350,000. Huh. Not of my money it's not. I would sell it, but then trying to find something else is ridiculous.
Forget just going - Hustle culture should be Reversed. We need the opposite. Science validates that we are more productive, and even more profitable, when we work LESS. 3 - 4 8 hour days should be the most we have to work in order to be able to live.
Of course that is true. I don't know where you are but in Australia people are encouraged to sell their house and buy another as soon as the first rises even slightly in value. People used to buy a house to live in and make it a home for their family not move every few years.
Load More Replies...It's a dwelling AND a money making machine. Lowering the home prices is not the problem. Low salaries are what the problem is. Trickle down economics did not trickle down. All the money stayed at the top to create billionaires. Had those billionaires not been so greedy, we would all be able to afford to buy a house.
Pensions. The ability for current and future generations to retire.
All that has happened is the companies have shifted the risk from them to you. If you can get such good returns, they can too. Of course in most plans you do not contribute. Just more evidence of poor money management on their part, and how criminal underfunding is.
And in transferring the risk *and asset* to you, they have also set up a situation where, if you're lower income or have a big family (causing the need for aid), you probably won't be allowed to save at least in the US. Pensions are excluded for most assistance programs. Retirement accounts are not. You can be forced to wipe them out to eat while making so little you otherwise qualify for help.
Load More Replies...I am GenX. I tore my BB relative up one side and down the other when they started with the "nobody wants to work" s**t. THEY had tuition that was reasonable enough to be able to work to pay for it. THEY retired at 65 because they had a pension. THEY had affordable housing, yet when someone today wishes they had the same they are lazy and don't want to work? They are communist? NFW
I mean thats on the government being garbage and companies having basically legal monopolies and noone seems to want to actually do anything to stop it. But they make it seem like people are lazy and dont want to do anything. Perspective is weird
Load More Replies...The state pension age was set with the expectation that the majority of people would die within ten years of retiring. LIfe expectancy at 65 has jumped in the last century, and now most people would expect to be retired for about 20 years. It's not reasonable to expect people to be retired for a quarter or a third of their adult life, unless you're going to fund it by paying in proportionally more.
I started work when I was 16 took "early" retirement at 63, almost 50 years paying into pensions and income tax. Never claimed a penny for anything. I think I've earned my retirement.
Load More Replies...How are these companies supposed to pay hundreds or thousands of people to not work for 20 or 30 years, especially if they only worked there for 10 years? They all do the same thing, file bankruptcy to offload the pension debt. The pension system only worked with lower life expectancy.
Life expectancy hasnt changed all that much most of the lower life expectancy we see in books is because of infant mortality which is why we hear that people only lived until their 30s in the middle ages which isnt true. If you made it to 20 you were most likely to live into your 70-80s
Load More Replies...Companies in the 70s began to take 'pension holidays' and borrow heavily from employee pension funds. Such was the rate of growth they were allowed to do so - weirdly it was never anticipated that this would not continue. Hence the pension 'black holes' that are in so many funds now. Of course the companies are never expected to make good on these by dipping into their profits but rather the pensioners have their pensions cut and the types of pension available to new entrants is much less enticing..
Talking to people in-person, and asking people out, and not being a f*****g weirdo if they say no.
Apps and social media have caused so much headrot.
If anything this was worse years ago. Social media is doing us all a service by letting people know this is not acceptable. Imagine a world where no one told these a******s they were out of order. I grew up in it..
yeah, this is definitely not a head-rot from social media issue. 100% this has always been a problem and now people are being confronted with the fact that it's NOT okay, and about damn time.
Load More Replies...Yeah, nothing has changed about how people approach other people. It's just harder to get away with being a garbage barge when everyone has a camera.
One more? Please stop expecting women (I don't know if men experience this as well) to sleep with you after offering to pay for dinner. I can pay my own way, I always offer to pay for my own meals but if you decide "you've got this" and then act mad when I refuse to go home with a total stranger that means there's something wrong with your head. Even if I liked you, I certainly wouldn't after that. Women are not that cheap. Can we go back to times when first dates were just that? Getting to know a person you think you might like with no other hidden strings?
EXACTLY!!! I got asked out by someone and they wouldn’t take my subtle hints that i didn’t want to date them (i didn’t even know them, they and their friends walked up to me and tried to set me up)
And sending an unsolicited d**k pic is apparently not seen as the sexual harassment that it is. It's just modern day flashing, which is very illegal, but a lot of men think it's normal and okay behavior. There's a time and place, and most importantly, consent is always needed.
Online dating is good for some people. As a secere introvert I could never meet a woman in public, like at a bar or someting. It wasn't until I could meet them online more comfortably and gradually rhat I really started to date.
My daughter is currently dating the only guy who asked her out in person at university. She's been on many online dates, hated all of them. You're going to get dumped in person (well, if she does it), you might as well get rejected in person. Stop being so sensitive. I've talked to countless older couples where the husband says he got turned down the first time he asked her out.
Upvote for the part about not being weird if the person who was asked out says no. I am pretty glad that people do not ask out anymore as much in person, but just because their reaction to a no almost is unacceptance, f*****g weird or even threatening. At least on social Media they can be blocked.
Holding your phone to your ear when talking.
I have hearing issues and same. Although I do sometimes do it outside of the home but that's more when A. I'm running late and a taxi isn't here and B. I can't hear them because even though there's no people walking/around there is so many cars going up and down the street (its a through road to other suburbs - always busy).
Load More Replies...If you put your phone on speaker in public, I take that as a sign that you want me to join in the conversation.
I still hold my phone to my ear, I don't like doing it any other way.
Also, even if you're not using the speakerphone, keeping your voice at a reasonable level instead of shouting your personal business to the whole room. I don't need to know what you and your ex are fighting about this week, Jan.
I only use loudspeaker when with another person so we can all talk to them
This one I'm guilty of. I put it on speaker then hold the speaker to my ear because I can hear better. I have a horrible time hearing out of it normally and headphones hurt my ears if I can even get the stupid things to stay in my ears in the first place.
Sounds like you need to go to an ENT or ear doctor. Or maybe get the earwax removed from your ears. There might be a solution to your difficulty hearing. I don't mean to sound rude by suggesting this, I am just trying to help 😀
Load More Replies...I hate these morons who have their phones on speaker. It's bloody annoying and rude AF. I call them out every time .
I can't wait for you to be humiliated when you and all these people on here hating, find out that the person you're "calling out" is HARD OF HEARING and uses HEARING AIDS that you LITERALLY CANNOT PUT THE PHONE TO YOUR EAR WHILE WEARING. If I put a phone to my ear, it bumps a button on my hearing aids that change the setting, so all I hear is a male voice in my ears saying, "Crowd- Outdoor- Normal". I have three options: 1. USE SPEAKERPHONE 2. Try to connect my aids via Bluetooth- this only works in areas where I have crystal clear reception, otherwise in my ears it sounds like an old radio with the dial juust a hair off of the actual radio station, you can kind of hear it but it's broken up, and often the other person can't hear me at all. or 3. Take a $3,000 dollar tiny piece of equipment out of my ear (a piece that isn't covered by any insurance policy I've ever seen), pray that I don't lose it, and have a hellacious time trying to hear the other person.
Load More Replies...My phone has a Bluetooth connection to my hearing aids. So don't need to gold it to my face.
The Bluetooth connection with my hearing aids only works about a third of the time. I thought it'd be fantastic, I insisted on the fancy aids with the Bluetooth and the connection to the app and all.....and they only work when I have a perfect signal.
Load More Replies...If they made cell phones like old landline phones - with internal speakers that didn’t cause massive pain to my eardrums - this would make holding the phone to my ear easier.
Eating dinner as a family round an actual table.
With my parents while growing up, yes, until the teen years. After a certain age, everyone had stuff going on and all being home at the same time for dinner was a rarity. That status kept going into adulthood and marriage and a kid of my own, so while we actually had a dinner table, the only time the whole family sat down to eat together around it was basically holidays.
Load More Replies......we do this unless we physically can't. No phones too
Way too judgemental. Some people just don't want to do it, PERIOD.
Plus lots of people still do it. I live alone so I'm not gonna eat at the table I'm just gonna eat in my room where I'm comfortable
Load More Replies...My husband & I have dinner at the table every night. We actually hold hands and say grace, too. I don't think there's been a single night in 16 years that he hasn't kissed my cheek and said thank you for dinner.
this is unfortunately not common in many families 😢 a lot only dine together on holidays
We have always done this about 95% of the time. There are a few times here and there when it doesn't happen due to schedules or whatever. But most of the time we do. It's different than when I was a kid. My brother and I sat at the kitchen table while my parents ate over tv trays in the other room so they could watch the news and nightly game shows.
Just working out in a gym without the need to record yourself
Again, it's not an abnormal thing to go and not record. Going to the gym without recording is normalised.
I've never seen anyone recording at the gym I go to.
Load More Replies...That should be the rule at every gym (or have a private area you can film or not be filmed.) I am already mortified enough and that's why I don't got to the gym (plus I hate working out) but knowing I look stupid and someone might be live recording me looking stupid with a screen of invisible people laughing at me? Worst nightmare.
Load More Replies...Odd, I've been going to the gym a couple of days a week for over 20 years, and never see anyone recording themselves.
Says someone who obviously doesn't go to the gym very often. Nor do I, these days, but I'm pretty sure that only a small proportion of gym users regularly record their workouts on camera. Recording what you did, times, weights, reps, whatever, be it on paper, a spreadsheet, an app or just in your head, is a different thing entirely and has been considered normal ever since gyms first existed.
You can do that? Go to a place and not "check in"? Or eat without posting pictures of every dish? Aren't those tik tok challenges mandatory?
I drive bicycle every to every other day (about 4...5 times a week in the last few weeks), regardless of just around, somewhere between 10 and 30 km each cycling day. No sportitious ambitions whatsoever, but my speedometer works still, and records, among other stuff, average speed. When I started out riding only my recumbent bike, I recognized that every time I lubricated the chain, the average went up by 3 km/h a few times after about two weeks each, but stagnated during - training progress EXACTLY outweighed dirt accumulation in the chain tubes (it's about 3.25 or so standard chains put together due to long distance between crank and wheel, therefore needs guidance that the tubes may provide). Of course, this slowly ended, as I cannot become 3 km/h faster on average every two weeks for too long...
Recording a live stream, or something to post on social media? Yeah, that's the behavior of insufferable garbage people. But for some who are actually training for a specific goal, they could be trying to track their form, and look for ways to improve.
**Getting to know your neighbours and connecting with the local community.** How many of us actually know or have talked to the people next door?? It used to be so common to introduce yourself at least, nowadays it’s just weird and considered off-putting, making it much harder to build a strong sense of community.
This generation tends to be very isolated generally, and considering how actively hostile modern urban design is, it tends to discourage people from going outside and meeting people. This is also coupled with the rise of social media and a general sense of paranoia about feeling constantly watched, since everyone basically has a miniature recording device in their pocket. It decentivizes people from striking up more friendly conversations, due to fear of being recorded being cringe or whatever and going viral. Honestly the pandemic has f****d social skills beyond belief, but let’s get real here, the loneliness epidemic predates Covid by a long shot, quarantine just put it into hyperdrive.
I think knowing your neighbours should make a comeback. Along with neighbourhood block parties and potlucks. And for gods sake, can we please make less suburbs and anti-homelessness benches, and more free/affordable public infrastructure while we’re at it??? It’s been said already, but look at the outside we built, no wonder kids don’t want to go outside anymore.
Again depends on country and background. Low income areas in my country have good social networks and high income areas have neighbours who barely interact and mostly hate each other.
Nah, grew up low income and we weren't buddy buddy with the neighbors just because they happened to move in next door.
Load More Replies...I've met them. I don't have anything in common with them. I prefer to socialize with people I like.
I live in a sweet little neighborhood...a cul de sac...with a lot of Pakistani people. There are a few Asians and blacks, as well as as a few white households, but the majority are Pakistani. There are about thirty houses in our neighborhood. Every day after school all the younger kids run around the neighborhood and ride their bikes. Little kids of all colors and faiths. You know where they are because there's always a pile of bikes there. The big kids take care of the little ones. In the evening after dinner the men walk around the block together, and the women walk around the block together....these are the Pakistanis. The talk and meander. At the same time you'll often see the teens doing the same. I'm not particularly close with any of them, but they are all friendly and sweet. There's a little group of older and younger boys, though (all ethnicities) who frequently visit my yard to play with our dog...so sweet and innocent and respectful. Should be like this every everywhere!
Have you seen Fear Thy Neighbor? Getting to know ypur neighbors is like playing the lottery with a jackpot of ruin your life. The friendliest neighbors I've had came over with wine and cookies and super friendly "welcome!!" They were PSYCHOS and we had to move because of them. I do not want to know my neighbors. It would be nice if my daughter had kids to play with nearby, but besides that, ny home comfort and privacy is valued 1000 times over making friends next door
I've lived in my house for over 20 years, the neighbors on either side of me have changed (moved out/in) at least a half dozen times. I have never known any of their names and one of them I currently have a "friendly head nod" relationship with, when we see each other mowing the lawn. It's perfect this way.
I know my apartments tenants, we help each other out when needed.. I got that atleast
Really lucky where I live. Our house has 10 rental units, and even though there has been some fluctuation over the 19 years I've lived here, old and new tenants are mostly friends. Right now a few neighbours are firing up the barbecue together for no reason ( no birthday etc, just community get-together). It's a big-ish city in Germany.
Just because I don't know my neighbors doesn't mean I don't have social skills. Maybe I just don't want to know them and I'm allowed to not know them. I already have friends. If you wanna get to know your neighbors, that's fine. But don't judge me for not wanting that, especially with annoying a*s neighborhood associations and watches that make you follow a bunch of dumb rules. I don't want to get to know those people when they won't let me paint my house or have a statue or something.
Or there are those of use that don't care about social media and wouldn't even know if they went viral doing but also just don't care to or want to know our neighbors. I like people to leave me alone when I'm just trying to walk to my car or go about my yard.
Taking your clothes to a tailor instead of getting new clothes
Most cleaners have tailors or can direct you to one.
Load More Replies...If you buy good quality clothes, repairing them is normal and better option. With fast fashion industry it's not worth it, because the low quality clothes are harder to repair and cheaper to replace.
You can do this but it will cost you MUCH more than new clothes will. Tailors aren't overcharging but clothes used to be horrifyingly expensive. I remember buy a SUPER cheap pair of jeans (less than half what they'd usually cost) in the early 90s. About 5 years ago I was able to buy a cheap pair for half of that. Jeans today (cheap ones) cost the same as they did about 40 years ago. This is the difference..
The difference is also that they won't last very long. Buy cheap, buy twice. Clothing quality has steadily declined.
Load More Replies...We used to have a local tailor, lovely Polish lady, did great adjustments. Her rent going up combined with Brexit meant she went back to Poland.
Or fixing them yourself. Very few people these days can even sew on a button (something I can at least do). My other half is a dabhand with a sewing machine, and will often buy things several sizes too large and alter them to fit.
I've been called an old sew and sew, but it's got nothing to do with wielding needles and thread.
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That individuals matter, not what groups people can be pegged as belonging to.
This is only true of individualist (ie western) culture. In Africa our community is the most important thing.
I think the OP means that the person matters - not what box you can shove them in to so that you can forget they're a person. ie- it's not their gender, sexuality or whatever hobbies they have. I hope that the western paradigm learns that you can value and respect individuals without needing to destroy the cohesion of the community. But since the real purpose of western individualism is division and alienation for the purpose of empowering the few to control the masses by rendering us all desperate and isolated and hopeless, that probably won't happen until the Earth itself makes capitalism unable to survive its own b*llsh*t.
Load More Replies...Ah group mentality is the new norm. Not individuals or individual thinking allowed
Yep and it's told as of its to be more individualized except when someone thinks differently than you
Load More Replies...I'm bisexual so I'm a part of the lgbt community and people always expect me to be annoying or something. They're always surprised when I'm a regular and rational person. The crazy people in the lgbt community have ruined it for the rest of us and are setting us back so far because we were finally gaining rights and stuff and now we're back to being despised. I'm tired. I just want to live my life without being called slurs or being threatened or called a gr**mer for no reason. I didn't do anything wrong by existing.
Sorry, but I remember the idea of "being yourself" as an ideal way to be, yet it never was actually respected. It seems to me that being unique is both encouraged and discouraged, at the same time. Labels, social classes, categories, and stereotypes seem to be required by a civilized society.
America is f****d like that. We are simultaneously trapped in monolithic think and toxically individual think. Like how can some many people think me me me, I'm different and special me me me and then see another person and think all of you are the same.
Yes, aligning yourself with __________ doesn't make you good, correct or kind, and criticizing or disagreeing with _______ doesn't make you a racist/sexist/phobic. Their are stupid, unhinged people everywhere, you don't get to cloak yourself in identity politics as a means of elevating your views and actions.
That falls apart when certain communities actively endorse bigotry. It's more complicated than sorting people into good and bad, but it's also more complicated than saying that people's alignments don't matter.
Load More Replies...This is what makes an individualist society you are all so sick of.. Gosh... Can this thread be more stupid? I am looking forward to see :D
Indeed! People nowadays unfriend you based on one post they don't agree with.. Pathetic way to live, you'll end up in a echo chamber, and never grow
But apparently above, individuals who don't like small talk with random people are bad.
Vulnerability. Sincerity. These things seem to get lumped in with "cringe" when they shouldn't be.
Yet again - NO! This generation are far more accepting of people's struggles with mental health, sexuality, bullying and so on..
That's how I see it, too. The younger generations seem to have a much better attitude about openness towards their emotions imho. But of course, there's always room for improvement.
Load More Replies...Same. Whoever came up with it needs a fist in the mouth.
Load More Replies...Vulnerability is definitely not considered "cringe" by most younger people, at least not based on the people making a big production of sobbing dramatically on TikTok and Twitter/X.
I think this is becoming more acceptable not less surely
To be open and honest, we are told by mental health professionals, is the best way to behave. Yet, emotional unavailability and emotional immaturity are very common in our American society. Being authentic (behavior consistent with values) versus being shallow and superficial (pandering to societal expectations). That goal is a genuine struggle, and one we may have to pursue on our own. I think the primary goal is to feel good about yourself, without knocking down people who are different than you. Making someone feel bad, such as calling them fat, will not make you any thinner, for example.
Yup! They only care if the person fits into their ideal world view, anyone else they want dead, literally.. Nasty creatures..
Texting back too quickly is apparently a thing to younger folk? Whereas I see it as the ultimate sign of respect and interest when you're having an engaging conversation. There's so much second guessing about presentation and interest levels that many forget that it's cool, fine, and normal to just be honest with feelings and pursue them as long as they're reciprocal.
What kills me is "punctuation is aggressive" and "ok means you're mad." WTF kids?!?
"Texting is a brilliant way to miscommunicate how you feel and misinterpret what other people mean." From a meme I saw years ago. Felt it was spot on.
Load More Replies...Every generation has their own way of speaking and their own etiquette. But people expect those of a different generation to respond in their own particular way that is normal for them..
Being able to adapt to the communication type of a different generation is a general form of etiquette. However, the kids of my friends (14 - 22) would be mortified if I talked to them entirely in their style. They prefer that I address them in the style of my generation, because that means I see them as a grown-up, responsible, serious person.
Load More Replies...I've had *1* person complain about this. I called him weird for it cause he is
A few years ago I thought of this too. If I reply too quick it's seen as caring too much or not having a life and if I take too long I don't care. I know that's not true but that's how it seemed to be perceived
If I get a text that requires an answer, you'll get one, provided I notice one has been sent. And I always use punctuation. Always.
I mean I like when I can keep the convo going easily but if you text back before I’ve had a chance to finish reading what you’ve previously sent I get overwhelmed. That’s a me thing though!
I also disagree that answering back fast is a form of respect. People have lives and responsibilities, they have jobs or kids or pets, and while another human might be initiating an interesting conversation, sometimes answering fast followed by a long pause could just mean that maybe a kid had a tantrum, or they are having a fun moment, or that person may be at work and break has finished, maybe a shower happened or they are cooking and the next minutes require full attention.
Telephone skills, not fearing making phone calls
Emails and texts are too easy to ignore. I feel it takes twice as long to communicate via email.
I've always been afraid of making phone calls or answering unknown numbers. I've learned to do them anyway, but the anxiety never goes away no matter what I do. So iI think it's not about being afraid or not, but not letting the fear limit you.
I like texts and emails because it means I have things in writing that I can always reference back to, plus I have a crappy memory. I also never answer unknown callers, since it's usually spam. If it's important, they'll leave a message
If it’s work, I always try to get stuff in writing as it’s a good paper trail if something goes tits up
Load More Replies...I don't really like phone calls and usually do what I can to avoid them, but sometimes there's just no avoiding it.
I'm about to be 47 and I still hate making phone calls even though I spent much of my youth on the phone.
Telephone manners and common courtesy. When my fiancé moved in with me I needed to have extended interaction with the IRS on his behalf . ( he was using the ever popular ostrich method). I learned that if you are nice to them they will be nice to you. The rules are the rules and some things might be a little flexible but the person on the other end of the phone did not personally make these things up. Therefore if you fuqed up your own situation they are there to help you, even if the outcome isn't what you want.
For personal calls yes, although the iPhone doesn’t have the acoustics of classic phones. Business calls only go to a maze of press # options and being put on hold. Why bother?
I grew up before texting and cellphones and have always been anxious about the phone.
Go to the park and join a bunch of strangers in playing a game whether it be touch football, throwing the Frisbee, even a game of TAG.
Uhh no. I would never walk up to strangers playing a game and join them.
So of you never talk to strangers how the hell can you function...they dont mean just jump in and start playing...you ask if you may join....its called actual socialization....
Load More Replies...It's completely normal to join in with others in play. As long as it's not something organized, everyone is always welcome. Just follow playground rules that you remember from being a kid and you'll do fine. If people are kicking around a soccer ball, just walk up and silently raise your hand to indicate that you want the ball. Someone will kick it to you. Pass it to someone else. Run around for a bit. Get warmed up. Teams will get picked eventually and you'll be in a game. No words need to be exchanged. You're all just playing.
When I was a teen(47m) I would ask folks playing soccer if they needed 1 more. If they did, I’d join. If not, wait for another so the teams could be even. On the basketball court, I’d call next and pick 2/3/4 from the team that just lost and play. If people were playing catch, I’d ask if i could join. Most would say yes. The only sport the older folks would be playing was soccer. Believe it or not, playing with them made me a much better athlete and ran circles around the kids my age with how I was learning to play. I don’t understand how today people are more enclosed to be a******s behind a computer and not have a positive interaction in the real world.
Why not? When I was in college I was camping on the Gudalupe River with a friend of mine and I took her out for a nice dinner and then she wanted to see what was going on in the area. We found a group of locals playing beach volleyball in the park by the river....and one happened to be the park Ranfer we had spoken too at the camp. I said let's go play and she said bit I'm in a slinky dress....I said take off the heals and let's play. A couple hours later having a drink by the campfire she told me that was the most fun she'd had in ages and that I was so fun and random beef anke to walk up to complete strangers and immediately becoming part of the grouo.....but this was 35 years ago when people were actually human and not robots dumbed down by the internet and electronics.
Internet privacy
Nope - never intended. In the US, as with most corrupt countries, there is NO expectation of privacy...NONE!!
Every single thing you do on the internet, every text or message and every phone call are intercepted by - in the UK, NSA and in the USA, GCHQ. They do this in a reciprocal arrangement because in both countries it is against the law to spy on your own population. They spy on each other's and swap the information (really) See the PRISM documents for more information..
My father and my stepfather both had lifelong espionage careers with the CIA. Trust me, the government doesn't give a flying f**k what you're doing, and if they do decide you're interesting they're going to find out regardless of how careful you think you are.
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Not bringing your phone into the sauna/steam room.
People do that? I wouldn't know I don't go into saunas. I wasn't aware that this was such a big issue lol
Then don't bring yours in and mind your own business in regard to everyone else. I want to listen to my music in the sauna and there's nothing wrong with that.
I am so sick of all of this "generational divide" b******t. "The boomers are this!" "The Millennials are that" "Gen Z is blah blah blah" can we all just please stop and reflect and realize there there and bad Apples in every single bunch and that doesn't mean the whole barrel is bad? I know PLENTY of "boomers" who are some of the kindest more understanding people around and I e met some Gen Z who would soon slit your throat than give you a kind look. It has nothing to do with what year you were born! It's how you're raised. And truthfully I will never consider myself a Gen Z. I am simply a younger person who will hopefully live to become an old person some day. That's it
Once again Generation X is forgotten. That one is true.
Load More Replies...SO much of this is really Boomers reminiscing about their childhood and not realising it seemed better because they were a child. Then there's the inherent criticism of the 'youth of today' I'm Gen X but even I can see that the current generation are the very best of us. Who saw us all through the pandemic doing all the frontline jobs? Not my generation, that's for sure. Who is more accepting of people for who they are? Again it's the 'young people of today' Good on them, nostalgia is a lie..
I hate to tell you this, but where I live, it was both the middle-aged and young transport drivers, supermarket cashiers, chemists, street cleaners, rubbish collectors, and above all health workers who got us through it. The less experienced younger people need the older workers' experience and stamina, or do you think that a whole bunch of 20-somethings just rolled up one day and took over? Enough with the generational labels, every workplace needs a mix of younger, creative, energetic people, trained and supported by more experienced staff.
Load More Replies...Listen, y’all, the economy is shot, corona ruined our social skills, and you can’t be anywhere without spending money, we would way rather be doing things in the world but we’re broke and many of us are disabled
I used to think our species would die from pollution and global warming, but reading these comments makes me think, the the extinction will come from nobody daring to get to know anyone, så no children will come to take over. I am a bit sarcastic here maybe.
Working on my own computer. Before windows, I could ask Doss what was wrong and it would tell me and I would fix it. After windows I could go to Microsoft help and always get trained answers. Now, I go to Microsoft help and they let any idiot on the Internet provide answers. One has the weed the actual help out from the junk.
Better title would be old people complain and suggest what they think young people must find odd because it's no longer the only acceptable option.
Sorry but gen z and alpha rule nothing. Most can't even make a phone call without experiencing crippling anxiety.
I am so sick of all of this "generational divide" b******t. "The boomers are this!" "The Millennials are that" "Gen Z is blah blah blah" can we all just please stop and reflect and realize there there and bad Apples in every single bunch and that doesn't mean the whole barrel is bad? I know PLENTY of "boomers" who are some of the kindest more understanding people around and I e met some Gen Z who would soon slit your throat than give you a kind look. It has nothing to do with what year you were born! It's how you're raised. And truthfully I will never consider myself a Gen Z. I am simply a younger person who will hopefully live to become an old person some day. That's it
Once again Generation X is forgotten. That one is true.
Load More Replies...SO much of this is really Boomers reminiscing about their childhood and not realising it seemed better because they were a child. Then there's the inherent criticism of the 'youth of today' I'm Gen X but even I can see that the current generation are the very best of us. Who saw us all through the pandemic doing all the frontline jobs? Not my generation, that's for sure. Who is more accepting of people for who they are? Again it's the 'young people of today' Good on them, nostalgia is a lie..
I hate to tell you this, but where I live, it was both the middle-aged and young transport drivers, supermarket cashiers, chemists, street cleaners, rubbish collectors, and above all health workers who got us through it. The less experienced younger people need the older workers' experience and stamina, or do you think that a whole bunch of 20-somethings just rolled up one day and took over? Enough with the generational labels, every workplace needs a mix of younger, creative, energetic people, trained and supported by more experienced staff.
Load More Replies...Listen, y’all, the economy is shot, corona ruined our social skills, and you can’t be anywhere without spending money, we would way rather be doing things in the world but we’re broke and many of us are disabled
I used to think our species would die from pollution and global warming, but reading these comments makes me think, the the extinction will come from nobody daring to get to know anyone, så no children will come to take over. I am a bit sarcastic here maybe.
Working on my own computer. Before windows, I could ask Doss what was wrong and it would tell me and I would fix it. After windows I could go to Microsoft help and always get trained answers. Now, I go to Microsoft help and they let any idiot on the Internet provide answers. One has the weed the actual help out from the junk.
Better title would be old people complain and suggest what they think young people must find odd because it's no longer the only acceptable option.
Sorry but gen z and alpha rule nothing. Most can't even make a phone call without experiencing crippling anxiety.
