Someone Asks “What Was Loved By Poor People Until Rich People Ruined It?”, 50 People Don’t Hold Back
According to findings by sociologist Matthew Desmond, which he presents in his new book, Poverty, by America, since 1979, the bottom 90% of income earners in the U.S. experienced annual earnings gains of just 24%, while the wages of the top 1% of earners more than doubled.
Looking at inflation-adjusted figures, ordinary workers have seen their pay tick up only 0.3% a year for several decades. So the real wages for many Americans today are roughly what they were 40 years ago.
Still, people have been trying their best to make use of what they have. And they do find ways to enjoy life. That is until the market changes things for them. There's a Reddit thread that asked the platform users, "What was loved by poor people until rich people ruined it?" and it quickly went viral, receiving an interesting archive of replies. Here are some of the most popular ones.
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Farmers markets. When I was a child, we were broke as a joke. The farmers market was where we went to get dirt cheap produce and whatnot. Now farmers markets are super expensive and filled with stalls from out of state farms selling aRtIsInAl cHeEseS aNd nOn-gMO hEiRlOoM tOmaToEs.
We still have an actual farmers' market where people can afford fresh produce, baked goods and coffee from local roasters. The prices are low and the quality is great. Unfortunately, I live in upstate NY and we're at the mercy of our weather, so the season isn't year round.
Remember fruit/ vegetable stands on the side of the road? Always good value back in the day. Stopped at one last month. Wanted $10-$15 for a watermelon, $8 for a pineapple, $8-$10 for a pint of strawberries, blueberries or blackberries. Told him his prices were WAY to high, grocery stores were cheaper.
We just paid $22 CAD for a small bag of cherries. We ended up throwing the bag away 2 days later cause they were rotting! Brutal!
Load More Replies...True. I live in Northern NJ. If you happen to be driving around Sussex County, especially the back roads, you'll find fruit and veggie stands that are very reasonable and eggs are $3 a dozen. It's still early in the season, so prices are still a bit on the high side, but as we get further into summer, those prices will def drop. Absolutely worth the drive knowing those fruits and veggies were picked that morning!!
Load More Replies...Sorry, I hate to be that Australian who contradicts everything, but yeah nah. We’ve got heaps of amazing farmers’ markets as long as you’re not in the inner cities.
I think it's totally fine to share experiences from around the world. The internet is not just for conversations about the USA.
Load More Replies...Same Here. Everything ist organic and expensive as F*ck. You have to go to a cheap Supermarket where everything you buy is wrapped in Plastik, and Despite you want to save the Environment from plastics and garbage, you have no choice, because you can't afford to buy plastic-free.
The farmers markets OP is talking about are taking advantage of the gullibility and stupidity of people to reap higher than normal profits. Most of the people who buy at these high prices don't really know anything other than what some talking head told them. Farm fresh eggs in Colorado generally sold for anywhere between $6 and $10 per dozen. The same eggs in Virginia sell for about $4 to $5 per dozen. The only difference is that the people in Virginia won't put up with the b******t prices.
After several years in France I finally learned to shop at markets and it's nothing like the expensive and pretentious ones I knew from back home. It's much better AND cheaper than in a regular store. I hope nobody ruins it!
in France every single city, town and village has a street market at least once a week. (the picture here looks like it's a street market in Provence).
Load More Replies...When egg prices were outrageous, I called around to several farms, and their eggs were more than the grocery store.
Affordable housing.
I have some affordable housing near me. You can have it too in these fiveteenish simple steps. 1. Be raised by your grandmother. 2.Spend years caring for them while they keep getting cancer. 3. (Emotional trauma because they keep going into recession until they don't). 4. Per step 2&3; turn down promotions, to keep caring for them. 5. Equity is not drained from the house because you chose to take protected unpaid time off via FMLA which is luckily available in your state. 6. Trauma from them passing. 7. Inherit house built in 1957 with tons of issues. 7. Now have house that needs about $30,000 of work. 8. Go into debt for $30000 or sell to not have to go through that? 9. Grandma's ghost haunts you for the rest of your life regardless. And that, my friends, is the only way to own a house in most states worth living in. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Load More Replies...Gentrification is a soul sucking reality for the poor. Capitalism at its worst. Not everyone has the wherewithal to earn scads of cash. Our gov "of the ppl for the people" needs to step up and offer real solutions instead of platitudes
It's highly unlikely it will, anywhere in the world. Governments are made up of people who don't struggle like your average lower class citizen. Those government people - all of them, whether currently occupying an office or not - don't benefit from measures that would aid the general populace. Hence they don't have an incentive to improve the situation long-term "for the people".
Load More Replies...An inner city area such as Pyrmont in Sydney was a slum and decaying until fairly recently. Now you need at least 1 million just to buy a unit there
Affordable housing is what investors buy to rent to people who wont be able to afford the rent
I agree! I'm turning 35 this summer and bought my first home (a 32m² apartment) 11 years ago this August, and my second one eight years ago in March (a two floor house of 60 m² ground surface), and I wouldn't have been able to afford any of them if it wasn't for that I nearly lost my life in a car accident and had to spend between six and seven months in hospital, including five weeks in coma, 13 and a half years ago. And I do pity those who have to buy a home starting from scratch financially.
The only reason I was able to buy my first house was because of the insurance payout after a serious car accident I was involved in some years before the purchase (never so bad it isn't good for something) and I do pitty those who has to pay for new homes without that kind of money when I see the prizes on today's housing market!
There are a hundred different ways to save/finance/move to a different place to get a house. Its not "rich people problem. Also, there a math problem. For every person that comes to a Country, state, city, they have to be housed. If you live in a place that is boomtown, or a country that lets millions in without a thought, expect it to be hard to afford housing. Cant afford a down payment? VA will guarantee your down payment after serving i the military and the list goes on and one. Go find your way! Its out there. Otherwise, yes, you wont ever own a house because you didn't do anything different than your doing this moment. Sorry if its an inconvenient truth
Second hand shopping, there's nothing worse than going into a completely harvested op shop and not being able to find anything in your size / of good quality because hipsters came and raided the place and sold everything at a 150% mark-up on their f*****g depop account.
It is also driving up all the prices at a lot of thrift and second hand stores.
Saw the same thing on auctions too. Went to a few government or business auctions and you used to be able to get second hand but relatively new stuff (cars, PCs, furniture) for decent prices. Now people go to them and buy up everything to resell in their shops. You often see the better cars being bought by people who literally run caryards.
Load More Replies...Saw a post yesterday with a lady showing shoes that she had recently donated to Goodwill. One pair (obviously used, but in excellent condition) was priced at $25. She had only paid $20. Another was marked like $20 when they were obviously cheaper knock around type shoes that cost on average $10. They were charging MORE for used products than they cost new! Employees/mgrs are supposed to look up prices on eBay, etc for items that are in very good/excellent condition so they can price them competitively (meaning less) . Now they are simply getting greedy 🙄
This is why I stopped shopping at thrift stores. I saw Walmart shirts and pants (some of them are actually pretty good quality) being sold for more than they cost new, and just went and bought the new ones.
Load More Replies...I think it’s a good thing if second hand shopping is more popular. Way less wasteful and better for the planet, no?
But if the goods cost the same as new ones, why bother with getting second hand in the first place?
Load More Replies...In Oz we still have shops run by the Salvation Army (Salvos), St Vincent’s (Vinnies), and assorted other Op shops (Opportunity shops). Unless you’re in the inner cities, they are still pretty good value.
Many of our Salvation Army stores closed in my city (US), but I have a St Vincent Depaul's down the street. There are other thrift stores too.
Load More Replies...This is maddening! Always thought what a great thing this has always been for people and a solution to there being too much clothes already but now it’s trendy so it gets screwed up. Now their original customer with a real need is priced out. Who is cashing in? I mean do the proceeds really go to help people through these organizations? It just ruins it for everyone.
You just have to research what charity you're donating to or shopping at. A lot of them are nonprofit. Look for small local ones like those that may be related to churches or definitely independent shops. Basically you wanna avoid the chains like Goodwill.
Load More Replies...My friends and I (from Zambia) have a running joke that if someone sells second hand clothing on WhatsApp it's affordable, on Facebook it's pricy, and on Instagram it's so damn expensive that you're better off buying something brand new from a store. We call second hand clothes "salaula" and once someone brands it as thrift, you know there's a 200% markup.
Well, here's the thing though. Or rather two things. A) How do you know what percentage of the shoppers are rich? Because every country is different, but in my country (America), most of the population cannot afford an unexpected emergency. We may not all have perfect spending habits, but it's not that we're all spending too much on lattes. It's ridiculous to assume that most thrift shoppers are in the 1%. B) The world has a huge pollution problem, and part of that stems from buying everything new. Yes, big corporations are the main problem, but people buying something, throwing it away when it's still perfectly good, then buying a new version is not insignificant. Saying only people who make a certain amount can thrift might help one problem, but it makes the environmental destruction problem worse.
I’m sure someone already mentioned this but CAMPING. It used to cost close to nothing to reserve a camp site (some are still cheap) but now they’ve gone all boujee and some sites charge you ridiculous fees to pitch a tent in the woods. Same with music festivals in the forests. People would go to get away from b******t societal hierarchies and enjoys music and self expression. Then they got all mainstream and it lost its original meaning (think Burning Man).
I remember when I was a kid. $10-20/night for a spot in a provincial campground surrounded by trees, unable to see the other campers, and bins full of free firewood. Nowadays it's a clearcut acre with no trees and, twice the cost, and if you want a fire at night be prepared to spend $50 on wood. A camping trip used to cost a family $300 for two weeks, now it's $100 a day
We've got a few places that literally won't allow us to have fires anymore even if we supply our own firewood. Idiots not putting out their campfires ruined it for everyone.
Load More Replies...Festivals used to be for people who didn’t mind roughing it for a few days while watching music and taking every drug known to humanity. Everyone was equal and that’s what made it a great communal experience. A ticket to Glastonbury 35 years ago was £50 (now it’s the best part of £400). Part of the increase is down to the collapse of music sales so bands charge more. What is worse is that the “everybody’s equal” vibe is gone and “Glamping”, VIP areas and other “exclusive” s**t has made sure there’s a class divide inside the festival caused by the sort of rich bastard who would never have dreamt of attending a festival back in the day. Add to that the ridiculous prices at concession stalls. I know we can’t turn the clock back and there are still a few good festivals about, but I feel that something very precious has been lost along the way.
I hate that you can't just drive and stop at some random campground you found. All the campgrounds around here require computerized reservations and then you have to select your spot from a map of the campground. Most are booked up to a year in advance. So much for the spontaneous camping trip to enjoy nature.
I think, in the US, National Parks are still free to camp. Usually for a maximum of 14 days. The Parks are basically our only redeeming feature as a nation at this point. Well, that and some of the Southern food.
Several years (15 or so), very good friend found a camping place that allowed 1 to 5 tents an area with no hookups for a flat fee of $100 over a holiday weekend (4 days, 3 nights). They provided showers and bathrooms at no charge. Including gas and food,, and our $20 share the fee, we spent about $150-$175. This included alcohol runs, money given to roomie to feed kids, and trip to Walmart for battery operated fan ($40). Same place 4 years later (after bought by a big company), $25 per night, per person (including kids), PLUS a site fee of $50 for 3 days, 2 nights. And no more than 2 tents per site & 8 people per site. Showers cost $5 each & were timed at 15 minutes. Bathrooms (toilets) were still free. Oh, and if you wanted a fire 🔥? You had to rent one of THEIR fire pits for the weekend. Think it was like $25. Absolutely insane! Extortion at its finest.
Festivals was about 30-40€ Entrance, 25 Years ago. Now you have to pay hundreds of Euros and you have to pay extra for shower, for Camping, for parking, even for your waste. I know some Guys who do one Festival a year instead of a Holiday Trip and they have to save a lot Money for it.
Glastonbury when it first started cost £1 and you got a free pint of milk now its 100's if you can even get a ticket
I remember camping at the KOA cap stops while we were going places cuz that was all we could afford but nowadays it's just through the roof
There are plenty of places to go camping. They just aren't the idyllic places everyone wants. I live in Colorado and people are constantly complaining about not being able to go camping. I beg you - take the bus up from Aspen to Maroon Bells and see one of the greatest places in the world. Then get back on the bus and go somewhere else to sleep so we don't ruin it for the next generation. There are places out on the plains with no waiting lists. However, everyone wants the spot in the middle of the National Park. Those campgrounds were built during the Depression when there was much less people alive and much less people who could afford to fly from Australia just to visit. The purpose of a National Park is to have place that's not developed and building more campgrounds defeats the entire idea. If the purpose of camping is to get away from people and go somewhere and experience nature, don't be so picky. There are places in Colorado where you can camp and go all day and see hardly anyone else. They just don't have majestic mountain views near a crystal lake. If you want to see those things, get in line with the other 6 billion people who also want to see something beautiful and have as much right as everyone else to see it.
For those of you that are close enough, all Arkansas state parks are free for entry and day use. Camp sites without any amenities are $12-15 per night. Hiking, biking, boating, etc are still affordable.
All types of what was traditionally "poor people food". Pork belly, oxtails, etc. All the things that use to be cheap because they were considered to be the trash parts. Now that people realize how delicious they can be its driven the price up.
I knew when the tv chefs started cooking oxtails that the prices would go up. Prices are outrageous.
Load More Replies...THIS! Briskets used to be dirt cheap. Garlic too. I remember paying $1.99lb for brisket 6 years ago. It's $5.99 lb now. Garlic was five bulbs for a dollar. It's two for a dollar now.
Learn the art of cooking. It's satisfying and a lifelong skill that can save you some serious cash (plus it tastes just how you like it)
You realize you still have to buy the ingredients, right?
Load More Replies...Weren't there prisioners that complained that they got served lobster way too often as meal at some point?
Load More Replies...Too true. Lamb shanks used to be $0.50. Now they are $9! I used to get ox tongues for $5 now they are not available at all. Ox tongues made a really inexpensive corned beef meal.
My mom used to get chicken wings for free from the local butcher when I was growing up. Now they cost so much.
Used to be a 50 Lb case for $50.00 US. Now it $158.00 US for a 40 Lb case!! It's terrible!
Load More Replies...I remember free marrow bones. It helped to know the butcher too.
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Cheap foods - donuts, cupcakes, hamburgers, wings - that have all been given the "foodie" treatment and went from good cheap eats to gourmet pricing without a corresponding increase in quality.
They keep raising the prices and decreasing the size/amount of the product & no person ever gets an increase in their paycheck. I honestly don't know why they think it's okay. 🤔 should I eat this month or should I have lights & hot water this month 😥
Everybody calls it inflation but the rich people are making more than ever their profits are through the roof and we're supposed to sit here and deal with their scamflation the rich are forcing the working class and deeper into poverty and purpose
Load More Replies...I wanted cake the other day. Box mix and icing would vome to about $4 and make 24 cupcakes. But i am single and dont need that many cupcakes. So i went to buy a slice of cake $4.49 .Cupcake? 4.29. wth? Its not gourmet, this was generic grocery store cake.
Cake freezes well. I live alone and when I'm feeling ambitious I'll bake something and freeze part of it for another time. Leave off the frosting and wrap the cake well so it doesn't get freezer burn.
Load More Replies...make them at home . . . it's not complicated and it tastes better too
Load More Replies...Las Vegas buffets. You used to be able to go to Vegas and eat for $10 at buffet that had everything you could think of. Now every damn celebrity chef has to have a place there. You pay $50 or more for a plate the size of a paper napkin with two bites of food on it. Because it is prepared a special way you are supposed to be delighted. What an absolute joke.
I used to work on the bar/restaurant, served wings, when the wing price sky rocketed, the one time before Covid, the owner listed wings a "market price" Can't tell you the amount of comments that we got, like " this isn't lobster these are chicken wings. He got a lot of back lash, but I guess the price of the wings fluctuated so much he had to. I can't believe how much wings are now, just crazy expensive!
We recently had a Five Guys open in our town, less than 5 minutes walk away from a McDonald's. They had a great opening but within a few weeks everyone was back at McDonald's because the burgers tasted better and it is cheaper
Perhaps they've not read enough history books. Times like these lead to revolutions, and the 1% typically don't last long in such circumstances. How long till the streets run red to cries of "Eat the Rich!" once more, I wonder.
The saying "money doesn't buy you happiness" was originally used by the poor towards the rich asking them to share the wealth. Now its used as a statement to shut down poor people who talk about wanting enough money to survive. (BTW studies shows that money does buy happiness but only if its not too much. Around 100,000$ a year is were they found the highest quality of life and emotional stability.)
I would be much happier with lots of money. Pay off my mortgage =Happy, buy a new truck=Happy, do some much needed landscaping = Happy
Exactly. Money definitely buys happiness when you can live without the stress of unexpected costs making you decide which bill can wait to be paid and how much late fees are for what.
Load More Replies...What money does is remove the panic when the "check engine light" comes on...when you get a toothache...when the hot water heater breaks down. It removes the monthly decision of, "Food? Heating? Student loan?", the decision that just grinds you down month, after month, after month.
It may not buy happiness, but it sure as hell can give you peace of mind. When you're not worrying 24/7 how to make ends meet, it's much easier to find what will make you happy.
buy happiness? perhaps not...but it sure as hell helps to get the things that lead to happiness...
I despise that saying. I know everyone has problems but having a lot of money would literally end most of my problems.
As someone else pointed out there is a sweet spot though. Too much money and you start getting people hassling you for money and start having to deal with "false friends" and gold diggers (even outright thieves and kidnappers). That said, I'd love to win one of those 100 million dollar lotteries and have to worry about that :P
Load More Replies...When I began making 75k a year 10yrs ago my family and I were happy. Bills were paid, we had 2 new vehicles, we could afford nice quality Christmas presents, go out to eat ant decent restaurants weekend trips and a vacation to the south every year. Today at $75k per year you can barely buy food pay a mortgage and make a car payment, and forget about extra spending or going out for a nice meal more than once a month.
Studies show that money does indeed buy happiness up to a certain point: (being able to afford necessities (including healthcare) without worry plus a few extras (eating out, vacations, hobbies etc). After that, having more money increases happiness only for a few months. The next big contributor to happiness is health, friends/family and purpose (whatever that may be for you). Of course, with a reasonable income it is much easier to take care of your mental/physical health, socialise and follow your purpose.
So idk if any of y'all in this sub live in rural communities, but big farming industries are killing small farmers. Impossible to own your own farm and make money at this point because big industry pushes you out. A decade or 2 ago you could sustain yourself with your own crops/animals, but now that's become so expensive you need a job on top of caring for your farm. Now with all this s**t going down, rich people are buying up farmland, presumably to make money when the stock market crashes again. I just bought 40 acres a year ago and in the past 3 months I've gotten 15 letters in the mail from various people trying to buy my land for way more than it's worth.
This. Where I am from corporate farms killed the small guy, my family included and every family I knew growing up. Banks were unrelenting and forcing all the smaller guys out. We had around 7500 acres, mix of wheat and pasture, we were small. In the late 90's I was custom farming and sowed one owners land back into grass (CRP Program) in NE Colorado. Roughly 96,000 acres. That's 150 square miles of land. Not sure if Greytaks are still around the Billings MT area, but when I was up there they had a field over 300,000 acres if I recall correctly.
That blows my mind. One family owning all that land. It disturbs me.
Load More Replies...This is why we need some good old fashioned Trust Busting. It's an appropriate brake on unfettered capitalism
I disagree on this one. It's not really "rich people" as most of us know them. These are the top 0.001%, the multi-billionaires, the banks, the corporations, etc. They're doing the same in the housing market.
48 acres, mixed farm, pasture and wooded. Raise my own veggies and livestock, and plenty of wood to cook and heat. Life is hard, but beautiful.
It's the same with packing facilities. Smithfield slowly bought out other producers and then sold out to the Chinese.
Load More Replies...Big business kills the little man in every industry. Where I live, big developer got the bright idea to build a mall, take all the business from downtown. That's fine and dandy but not all businesses can afford your sky high per square foot prices. So now 30 years later, downtown is dead and the mall folded. And there are multiple cases where Wart-Mal moved into an area, killed all the local business with their "falling prices" and then once all competition was gone, raised their prices and then closed because they had no customers because everyone was jobless.
I live in rural Iowa, and this is sooo true! The family farm is going extinct, even the larger ones.
Theater used to be the entertainment for the masses and now it's ridiculously expensive and inaccessible to most people.
Community theater and music is still affordable and I find it more enjoyable.
my local college has really cheap theatre tickets. i saw American idiot there a couple months ago
Load More Replies...Going to the movies, a live play, a sporting event, a theme park and so on has gotten ridiculously expensive. We are a family of five. If we went to a movie it would be over $100 dollars. I don't have an extra hundred to go watch a movie.....I'd rather use that money to buy groceries.
Agree! We are also a five person household. It cost us almost $75 to eat at Subway! It's simply not affordable to take the whole family to cultural events and live shows.
Load More Replies...eh, i want to say this depends more on how the tickets are purchased than the actual venues. *side-eyes ticketmaster* buying directly from the venue at the box office can still be somewhat bearable, depending on the location.
Don't assume it's all expensive. I have been to some fantastic operas and symphonies that cost less than the cinema.
Well, if you have the chance, Shakespeare in the Park (Central Park in NYC) is completely free and very fun!
Concerts too. Two tickets for $1800. How is the average Joe, that actually listens to the artist supposed to afford that. Go without food for the year ? Let's be more realistic with our ticket prices big artists.
Tickets for almost any sports event--not to mention the food at concession stands.
Same with sports. I remember going to a Phillies game for like less than $10.00. Now it costs you near $100 for ticket, concessions and parking. And forget about hockey and football games! Remember seeing Led Zeppelin for $8.50. If they could play now, it would be like 10 Grand! (with most tickets bought up by legal scalper companies!) Movies? 50 cents... now $15.00 and outrageous concession prices.
Reason why it's going to fail. Heard on NPR that many theaters are going by the wayside bc the normal boomers (with money) are dying out and us young people, don't care to spend money on that c**p
A much, much greater contingent of us don't *have* money to spend on any c**p at all...
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The planet.
Sure, it's always somebody else's fault. As part of humanity we all bear an equal responsibility for what's happened to the planet. We've all been reaping the benefits of industrialisation for centuries now, so it's a problem of our own making, not just the fault of the big bosses who take the profits.
Load More Replies...Pretty sure the poor do a great job trashing the earth too. Ever been to SF?
I work for a well known retail pharmacy chain, and what is so disheartening is just how much plastic goes through there...drug stockbottles, medication drams, lids, trash bags, shrink wrap holding merchandise, SO much plastic, and cardboard.
We're headed full speed into another " Silent Spring". Want a shorter life filled with lethal disease? Vote Republicans in and stand back while they work their deregulatory backstabbing. You don't mind if your kids are born with serious birth defects do you. Really what could go wrong?
Birth defects? I though the Democrats wanted to kill the unborn.
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PODCASTS!! The number of amazing podcasts that have been ripped off by celebrities who are so out of touch with the average persons daily experiences is disgusting. They are so starved for attention they have to take over any discussion that’s happening.
See...I have to disagree on one of them. On our way back from vacay my daughter played several episodes of "the Problem W/Jon Stewart". SO happy to see he has not lost it. His "Boring MF award" is awesome.
influencers, instasluts, tokers all those who think they are entitled to attention. they need to make those aforementioned whatevers actual jobs and they have to pay tax. plus people need to stop vilifying these idiots like they are some sort of celebrity, they are lazy entitled shits who should not be emulated
Podcasts videos infouencers should all be rounded up and forced to listen and watch each other
Like Gwyneth Paltrow selling $2,000 face cream on Gloop. I remember reading "O" The Oprah Magazine one time and there was an ad for a dress (a simple sundress) for $2,800 (about 20 years ago!). Yeah, Miss Oprah you may be a billionaire, but some people are still eating Top Ramen & living with their parents. Talk about out of touch!
The outdoors. So many places used to be difficult to get to, required some level of toughness and grit just to see. More and more people argue that they are entitled to see these places without that, and they're flooding in, paving roads, cramming parking lots full, and trampling some of the most pristine, delicate, untouched areas of the world. I'm not trying to gatekeep these places, but nature sure was.
Idaho has lots wrong with it. But they have a huge amount of wildness area. They wont even build roads that they could use to fight fires ( because people would use them for other stuff). Hence smokejumpers.
Nothing wrong with Idaho that couldn't be fixed by throwing out all of the knuckle-dragging militia member Republicans.
Load More Replies...Near where I am from, there is this mighty old beech in the middle of the woods. It's special because the bark has grown around an old crucifix and now the Jesus figurine is enclosed by the bark. It used to be a magical, secret place, all quiet and peaceful. My grandparents lived about a 30min walk away, and when I was little I would go on walks there with my grandmother, sometimes without any other person in sight. But no more. It has become a place of pilgrimage. They have paved the road so that EVERYBODY can drive up there and drop their teddy bears, plastic rosaries, votive candles, etc. People have picnics there and leave their litter behind. It's beyond ridiculous.
So many paths in the woods, nature paths, are being paved so gd strollers bag as rv's can be pushed along them. Just put the kid in a backpack! No need to put a 7 year old in a stroller!
I understand but some paths for the disabled elderly are really nice for the whole family
Load More Replies...It's so true overpopulation of humans in the last 40 Years of skyrocketed disgusting
Load More Replies...100% agree. Several places in CO now require reservations to hike them. That's right - you have to MAKE AN APPOINTMENT to see nature.
I want to see as little impact on nature as well but I’m now partly disabled and would still like to get places. Just because I have to suffer 9/10 pain some days that most people can’t imagine doesn’t mean I should have to stay sitting at home rotting.
Come to mammoth!! We push any of it. But if your rich we have a circle for you. They just don't about the actual town and the actual mountain and woods.
Old ancient footpaths being churned up and now being closed due to mountain bikers etc who take them there in the 4x4
Hawaii. Im Polynesian and rich people have pretty much made Hawaii thiers and im sick of it. Technically not poor people but all islanders.
It wouldn't be so bad if a bit more of the tourist industry income actually went to the service industry people who serve the food, make the beds, clean the hotels. A lot of the service staff in resort areas are not paid what they deserve. I remember many years ago reading about a ski resort where the prices in town were so expensive that many of the cleaning and service staff lived in homeless tent camps outside of town, even in the middle of winter, because there was nowhere IN town they could actually afford to live and still be able to eat.
That place you are speaking of is Sun Valley, Idaho. 🙄
Load More Replies...By rich people, they mean white people. White people decided to make Hawaii a state, and before that it was annexed (a nice word for "taken" or"stolen") after it was invaded by the US Army. It was then, two years later, made into a territory in 1900. The Islands were once ruled by a queen who was thrown in jail.
I’ve seen a mini documentary on the just the fresh water supply taken by big companies, their natural resources are dwindling and tourism just takes up alot of it, and rich people buying up land making it their “summer vacation spot “ all while the natives there are struggling to get decent housing as they are being pushed out basically
Yep but for some reason the repubs always diss on me speaking out against rich thieves
Load More Replies...In New Zealand the ski operators have dormitory housing in a nearby town. Less expensive, I understand transport to work is provided.
But house prices in Queenstown or Arrowtown? And how many are just holiday homes? Similarly on the NI in places like Taupo.
Load More Replies...I read this as I'm Polynesian and rich, people have... And I was confused.
The tourism industry is responsible for a lot of worldwide pollution.
I feel ya, mate. In Maine they're doing the same thing. Stupid rich people come "from away" and love it here - so what do they do? Buy everything and turn it into what they came from. These are people who will literally buy a place for a couple mil then bulldoze it and build some monstrosity of their choosing. No respect for anything, including locals. They act like we're some sort of quaint window dressing for their amusement. My family has been here 5 generations before me - I'm 67 and it just makes me so sad to see things I've known all my life (I'm 67) completely changed. Families that were fishermen/lobstermen for generations having to sell their waterfront property (which they needed for their profession) because the rich people have made anything with even a water VIEW so expensive - taxes especially - that nobody from here can afford them. So sad.
Please add the Greek Islands (Cyclades, Ionians, Dodecanese, North Aegean, Crete). They've become too expensive for us
Outlet malls. Growing up the outlet mall was the place to find slightly irregular items and last years styles for like 50-75% off retail prices. Now they are just another retail store.
That's because as their popularity increased as a place to score deals, the manufacturers realized this was just another marketing channel so they began to make product specifically for it. No longer irregulars, surplus, etc. Just cheaply made versions of the more expensive stuff. https://lifehacker.com/how-to-tell-if-an-item-of-clothing-was-made-specificall-1845761919
Yes! The show “Adam Ruins Everything” had this explanation too
Load More Replies...Depends on where you go. I used to live not far from an outlet mall where I could get genuine Nike sneakers at dirt-cheap prices (best I ever paid was $20 for one pair of women's sneakers. My brother was a Nike employee at the time, and even he was impressed). However, there was a different "outlet" mall several hours away, and their Nike store was no different from any other store--their "sales" weren't worth getting excited about, and most of their sneakers had triple-digit price tags. Unfortunately, the outlet mall with the cheap Nike store decided to raise their rent, which (what a surprise) drove out most of their tenants, including the Nike store. :-(
Have you seen the prices at DSW? Even the clearance racks are expensive
We have several in the Houston area. They used to have wonderful prices and selections. Now most of them are no different than their regular retail stores. Off the wall, little known brands, or small family owned businesses usually still have decent prices, but the selection is smaller since they smaller companies, many with just one, or maybe two,. locations. But with them, the service is normally exceptional. They understand customer service helps their business.
Malls are now non existent in many places, being bought out by Google and Amazon
Living near the coast used to be a poor people thing a long time ago.
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My grandfather bought a house on Cape Cod when he retired from being an airline mechanic in the late 60s. He wasn't poor, but he sure as hell wasn't rich, and a normal middle class person wouldn't be able to do that today. Even if you inherit a house free and clear, the property taxes will eat you alive if you aren't rich.
Depends on value of home & property along with local/state tax rate. For instance, where I live, my home is worth $300,000. I pay 6k in taxes every year. Good thing is, that's a end of year tax return break. If someone has a multimillion home on the beach, that could very easily be a lot. Using the same rate here on a 1.5m home, and that could be a 30k property tax bill. A person with moderate income, say $65k per year, couldn't afford that.
Load More Replies...So funny how Americans always think they are paying less taxes than the « communist/socialist » countries such as Germany, Italy or France and yet they pay astronomical property taxes. 6k on a 300k house is roughly 20 times the average rate in Europe (0.1%). For instance, converted in dollars I pay 3.2k a year for a 2M house in the most expensive country…
Well, most of it will be underwater soon. Conservatives who say, "Well, if the sea level rises people can just sell their houses and move," haven't exactly thought it through. Unless mermaids are buying.
my dreams to live on a beachfront cottage in the north were dashed when I first got zillow
Remember the movie "Sleepless in Seattle"? Those houseboats used to be inhabited by super poor people, they were considered terrible living conditions. Now it's rare to find one, even a small one, under $1 million.
Damn! I pay like $10 a year on property tax... So grateful i dont live in america, i would be homeless. Your guys taxes alone is more than i earn in an entire year
Yup! Traverse City area (Mi). People bought on the bay in the late 60's early 70's. When your assessment goes from 75k to 500k over 20 years? Doesn't take long to get priced out, tax wise as well as having the assessment increase by law pegged at inflation.
For the same reason you don't want to buy a used, affordable, version of a fancy car like Rolls-Royce. The maintenance will equal the price of a nice used regular car every year.
Really, anywhere near the water was poor. High on the hills was where the rich lived. No flooding,
New York City... Mind you, I'm Puerto Rican, from New York and the diversity that once thrived in that city was 10 fold what it is today. Crazy to think right? I mean it's NEW YORK. My grandmother lived in Little Italy for over 55 years before she passed away in 2019. She lived in the same apartment on Mulberry St for that long and everyone knew who she was. She lived there during the peak, and eventual, fall of the Mafia. The streets on a Saturday night would be closed off, you could smell the food the entire block, people among people among people. I remember walking past as a child with my mom and just being in awe of how many people were just having dinner, drinking wine and just genuinely happy. I would go up to my Grandmothers and climb out onto the fire escape and just gaze at them and I would never get bored... ...None of that exists anymore. Gentrification is a real b***h. Most of the hispanic and black minority have moved to places like Queens and inner city Bronx or Brooklyn, you know.. where the "poor" people belong. Truly sad. I'll never forget New York as I knew it.
I really feel this, it makes me so sad. All of our culture is just getting "glossy," nothing is authentic anymore.
"having dinner, drinking wine and just genuinely happy" yet also being bIackmailed by mafia or being in relationships with mafia. so naive to think that people were "genuinely happy" at times when you were a kid and saw everything through kid goggles
Load More Replies...And after pushing us minorities out of the way, they then have the nerve to put up signs and banners saying Black lives matter. Like WTF?? You racist a*s MFers, if you really cared, then you wouldn't have kicked us out, and then essentially masturbate to your own self importance to feel good! I'm latino, btw.
You know Queens & Brooklyn are still NYC, right? Queens is the most diverse county in the USA
There isn't even a Little Italy anymore! It's turned all "yuppie" with boutiques and everything. Even the Feast of San Gennaro is filled with everything BUT Italians and Italian wares! The West Village turned the same. All "yuppies" & coffee shops in the area with barely any tattoo shops, sex shops, bars, etc left.
The mafia never left, they just evolved and the greed of businesses and the government of new York now is really falling apart. Just check out Louis Rossmann on YouTube, he breaks down new yorks corruption and greed pretty well.
So what you really mean is....Manhattan, 'cause Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx are all a part of New York.
ComicCons used to be pretty affordable, and you could chat with celebrities for a while.
Now they are a huge extravaganza, with multiple levels of admission and VIP access and VIP seating. Pictures and autographs with bigger celebrities can cost a shitload, and you wait in multiple lines and are rushed through it.
When I went(pre-Covid) I normally just see/buy art, those folks are usually not super busy and will often sign stuff for free.(unless they are big dudes like Frank Miller)
Agree 👍 The Comic-Con at London's Olympic is more of a con these days. The organisers are ripping off fans with love in their hearts and not much money in their pockets with a cold-eyed attitude that should shame them. Plus there's less interactive/exhibitions to see. Mostly bored stall-holders who beg you to visit with their eyes. The venue is dirty and unimaginative and each year London Comic-CON slips further down the drain.
Stuff at comiccons used to be for a small group of people everyone called nerds. If we play dungeons and dragons we were nerds. Now those same people that called us nerds watch Game of Thrones etc.
Load More Replies...San Diego Comic-con is going to be dead this year, the majority of big companies have pulled out and most have their own fan appreciation cons. This could return them to the way they used to be though before it got so popular and expensive.
The Hollywood bigshots have sucked dry every "geek" genre they could find and now the suits that replaced them haaaaaate comics and want to shove the fans back into the proverbial gym locker. I wonder if they released that turd-tastic Flash movie on purpose just to alienate the masses from comic movies.
Load More Replies...I was 15 when U2 did their original Joshua Tree tour. Tickets for me and a friend, in not-great-but-not-nosebleed seats, were $17 USD each, so $34 for both of us. 30 years later, the "cheap" seats for the reunion tour were $250 USD each. I couldn't afford that--a friend bought my ticket, and I paid him back in $50 installments.
And then there's the people who aren't even exhibiting fan stuff, there just there to sell things like generators or car insurance. That they get overly aggressive about it too makes the experience even worse.
I've heard that they have held panels for not-related-to-comics-at-all shows like Glee and Hawaii 5-0, but car insurance booths at Comic Con? Really?
Load More Replies...These days, about the only reason I go to cons is to see my friends in the various fan groups I hang with.
THIS! THIS! A TRILLION TIMES THIS!!!!!! this1-6498...62686e.gif
We lived in San Diego and not only could we NOT afford tickets for ComicCon, they were sold out almost immediately every single year we lived there (9).
We go as pro artist (so free whole weekend passes) but this year it's a no bc of the obscene hotel costs.
ReedPop ruined MCM. The original creators of MCM (who had to give it up due to covid) are making MegaCon now and it’s rapidly gaining popularity
Converse. When my dad was a kid it's what the poor kids wore now they are like $50 a pair for the same s**t shoe.
I was a kid in the 70s and only wore Converse knockoffs. We dug through the bin at Wards to get a left and a right of the same size and color. They were cheaper than adidas, but not cheap enough for us
Omg Wards! Haven't thought about them in years. We didn't do a lot of shopping in store, but when that catalog came.... new clothes for the new school year? Wards catalog. Xmas? Wards catalog. New summer toys? Wards catalog. I was "in charge" of circling items and folding down pages. The seventies were a great time to be a kid. Thanks for the flashback!
Load More Replies...Tried on a pair and it was an instant NOPE. 0 arch support and little cushion.
Nope, not s**t shows. I have a pair I bought 2 years ago, I wear them 90% of the time, and they are still going great! I love converse!
Everyone who wears Converse thinks they are being edgy and unique, all 100 million of them....
When I started high school back in '92, I wore a pair of red converse to PE classes because they were cheap then and we didn't have much money. The other kids laughed at me because Reebox shoes were all the rage then. Wish I had gone to HS 15 years later when Converse became popular again!
Anyone remember PF Flyers or Redball Jets? They were the sneakers you bought if you couldn't afford Keds.
Areas before they were gentrified. Gentrification increases house prices and the cost of living. Rawscent added: Cool neighborhoods. The rich move in and eliminate all the diversity that made them cool bit by bit until it’s all just rich people pretending to be cool.
I went looking for a pair of Sketchers. $150 at my local mall. $50 at CostCo
I don't think anything on this list is something rich people 'want'. They just move into different areas to show off their power. If you're rich and buy a jet, someone is always going to have a bigger jet but if you pick something that is used by people on a lower income bracket. You will dominate.
I'd say that in that case, we could, indeed, use the term "want", since they "want to dominate"? Power moves
Load More Replies...Gaming. Hear me out. Somebody is making those f*****g microtransactions profitable for those companies. I f*****g hate this s**t!
And the price of new AAA games has been skyrocketing. Now with all the Ultimate Editions etc, people are paying upward of $200 for games that used to go for $50, and you used to be able to buy a game and play it, but now what you buy is more like a demo, and then you buy the DLC on top of it.
I'll never forget the first time I ran into this, it was Dragon Age: Origins. Someone runs up to you in camp and says"I need your help" and then it opened a modal to pay $15. I had just bought the game for $60...Like it wasn't DLC made later, it was a planned part of the game.
Load More Replies...Publishing a game too early instead of pushing back the release date, then calling it DLC instead of a patch.
yeah, what happened to the 'micro' part of microtransactions? more like drop a chunk of cash to get a few in game coins
Don't forget that they force the games to be on a live service too. So if their servers go down or get attacked oh no your single player game is now unplayable.
I used to play Summoners War back in the day... at least once a week in the channel I frequented someone would go off about how they'd spent four figures on the game in a week and not gotten whatever they were after. I do have to say that period of my life was filled with the best comedy I have ever experienced...
dont buy them. Vote with your wallet. I hear people complain about this but then they still buy the game. The company doesnt give a s**t. You bought it, then dont care if you complain at that point.
I dont, but it seems the majority of people do, so its now become the norm. I have stopped gaming alltogether because of microtransactions
Load More Replies...Trucks, 80,000$ for a truck is nuts.
And this is why I will continue to drive my 06 Silverado. Its paid for, runs great. Don't see any reason to take out a loan for another one.
97 f150 here. Daily driver with over 245,000 miles. That's where the odometer stopped working. Paid for, and runs fine.
Load More Replies...My parents just bought a Ford for what they payed for their house in '89-'90. Insanity.
I'm "inheriting" my dad's old truck, and I'm extremely glad of it. I don't really need a truck, but he has maintained it meticulously and I know I'll never get a better deal on one.
Last time I looked (5 years or so ago) an F150 was more expensive than an F350 4 door dually. Now that is ridiculous. And now a Ranger is $40K? Of course the whole problem with the auto industry are the unions. Eliminate them and pay auto workers a fair wage and watch how fast cars become affordable again.
Ridiculous is right. We only have a '54 Chev pick up (besides a 2010 suv). Had it for last almost 30 years as "daily driver". Sure, it slurps fuel. But other costs are negligible, including insurance. Best of all, it just keeps _appreciating in value_ ! Not many recent truck models can say the same. It now needs a body-off restoration if someone's into it.
To be fair the size of most of the trucks now is getting kinda crazy. Even Japanese trucks are succumbing to expansion. A '97 4x4 Hilux weighed 1565kg, the equivalent '23 model is now 2110kg. They're about 6cm taller, 60cm longer and 17cm wider. The F Trucks are doing the same. Add to that the difference in performance and technology. Multiple airbags, standard aircon, fancy stereos, power everything, computerised everything else it's no surprise they're more expensive.
Lobster - used to be peasant food, served to inmates, and used for plant fertilizer....
This happened once interstates were built, and refrigerated trucks were invented, and planes & trucks made it easy to transport goods. Sellers/chefs were able to get foods that had been unavailable in many areas before. They were the ones who touted shrimp, lobster, etc. And they were only available at very pricey, high end restaurants. In other words, only for the rich.
Same thing with Salmon - in Ireland in the 19th Century, it became illegal to feed your servants Salmon more than twice per week (or so I've been told - didn't actually experience it myself.).
Load More Replies...Until everyone else figured how choice it really is. You pay what the market will bear or not
Prince Edward Island, Canada. When my mom was growing up, eating lobster for lunch meant you were dirt poor.
Load More Replies...Carnivals and amusement parks. $80 for 2 slices of pizza, 2 salads, and 2 drinks at Six Flags. Everything is not just expensive, its obscenely way past expensive. *Everything*. My son n I filled the backseat up with game prizes and a couple huge stuffed animals last summer, but I easily spent over $200 on games (and we're actually pretty good at 'em). It was a $900+ day 💀
Have you ever been to "Legoland" in Denmark ? If you wasn't poor before, after a visit (especially with Kids) you are.
lol it's in Denmark, EVERYTHING here is ridiculously expensive.
Load More Replies...Baseball games, major league. My brother and I used to go to the games regularly. Now you need a second mortgage for the tickets and one beer each ($15 per beer)
When my kids were little, it was $10 entry for adults and $3 for kids, children under 3 were free. Today it costs $50 each adult and 35 Each child, kids under 2 free,
Nevermind sporting events. Used to be a father-son bonding experience to go to a baseball game, because tix/concessions were so cheap. Last time my family of four went to an Astros game, even 30-40 years ago it was several hundred, when you factored in parking, tix, and snacks. And if it was that bad in the mid 1980s, I tremble to think what it is now.
I felt this way 20 years ago when my husband wanted us to hit Busch Gardens with his son. I've got to buy 3 tickets, drinks, food, and then any extras and his son was not really the type who was gunning to go. Sorry if I sound like the evil stepmother but it was a challenge just to afford to have him visit for the summer so this was not a luxury we could afford, we did other fun things like hiking at a state park or swimming at the local pool.
I think work boots and work clothing are being ruined. I want to buy work boots but the good stuff is being discontinued for hipster style boots for people who go to Starbucks and never set foot in a warehouse/construction/trade environment. The same with clothing. Carhartt is a hipster brand. Dickies started doing this flex s**t a while back, although they have sort of remained ok for now.
I luckily live in Japan where there are whole stores devoted to nothing but clothes and boots and safety equipment for construction workers.
Yea but you they are going the same path to gentrification , check workman ワークマン公式 , they used to sell pretty good boots and work wear now is more focused in outdoors , this brand used to be the peanut butter for fishermen and contractors.
Load More Replies...Oh don't even get me started on freaking work boots. At my workplace, we get an annual allotment for boots and uniforms. A "good" pair will cost at least half the total we get. They don't last any longer than a pair costing half as much. About a year is all I get out of them before they start leaking around the seams.
Redwings aren’t even made in America anymore, they’re just some cheap Albanian c**p now but they still want almost $300 for a pair.
Try Red Kap clothing. It's better made than Dickies and less expensive. Try it for 60 days if you don't like it, they will give you a full refund and pay to ship it back. Great stuff. It's all I wear now.
Just shop at farming and ranch supply stores. They [typically] don't cater to the non-physical labor crowd, and even the "fancy" stuff, like showy cowboy clothing for rodeos, is generally much better quality than you would get at a regular retailer.
Dickies tried to cross over into the Skating brands with Vans and the old Airwalk, back in the late 90s. Now its like they still aren't sure about their own brand...
I remember when Dickies became popular in the punk and goth scenes in the mid/late eighties. One year I was just borrowing a shirt from my granddad because it was clean, and I was late. Next year it seemed like they were everywhere. Mine were deemed cooler because they were "vintage".
Load More Replies...Here one get safety equipment as clothes and shoes from the workplace. And it’s changed with no costs when needed. It comes with the job. The worker simply gets what’s needed to do the job. Same as tools are provided. Rules are so strong that in some work fields the workers aren’t allowed to have their own clothes, shoes and equipment. They have to use what the employer gives them, to make sure everything is up by the safety standards.
Sturdy, sensible clothing can still be found at farm supply stores without the insane markup.
Disneyland.
From everything I've read about the guest experiences at Disney parks (including EuroDisney, which is closest to me), the question is not "how can it be afforded" but "why bother wasting an exorbitant amount of money on what will most likely be a very disappointing experience?"
Load More Replies...This is just so sad. My parents watched Disneyland being built, when they were kids, and I grew up going there. You used to be able to get in for free, and just buy tickets for the rides that you wanted to go on. My mom would pack a picnic lunch for all of us, and it was great. All that started to change in the early 80s, sadly.
That was before people sued at the drop of a hat, demanded better amenities and better services. That stuff costs money. A business isn’t going to lose money so you can be entertained.
Load More Replies...Wait, you tell me that you wouldn't spend 5.000$ for two nights in a fancy prision cell and being bothered by amateur actors? (Starcruiser hotel)
With their support of pedophilia and exposing children as young as four to hard-core pornography, why would any decent person want to support Disney?
Football was working man's game. My Dad took me and my cousin to games every week home and away. This is beyond many now
unpopular opinion: College and HS games are way more fun than pro football (or really any sportsball)
Even more unpopular opinion: College football is way overrated and should not be the focus of universities.
Load More Replies......and the conglomerates that own the teams get taxpayers to foot much of the bill for tearing down perfectly good arenas/ballparks.
The average football fan cannot even afford to go to the Superbowl, it is now just for celebrities. I remember going to football games with my dad, $2.00 hotdog, $3.00 coke. I don't get the extravagant food now, who wants a steak dinner at a foot ball game? Get some nachos and go out to dinner after the game!
This may be unpopular but I prefer women's football as well football at the under seventeen level. While not as skilled as adult men, those people are playing because they love the game and it shows. Men's football is played by cynical narcissists playing by rote and for the money. Every contact is claimed to be a violent attack that deserves a red card and must be followed by histrionics which embarrass all but the proponent.
The ticket prices are off-the-scale. Football has lost the plot when it comes to money. Everyone knows this yet the pundits, footballers, sponsors, the FA and FIFA have no idea how to fix it. Just more and more money with the fans underwriting it all. The first billionaire player isn't far off.
That I'd a picture if actual football (soccer in the US) we don't have college football here, but even Lower league games ate beyond a lot of families
As a Cardiff City supporter, when I used to go down with my dad tickets were £2 each for me and £4 for my dad, we used to go weekly. Now tickets are £25 each, and while it doesn't seem much for football, it adds up when you go multiple times a season. The average fan is being priced out. Rugby in Wales is worse, Wales rugby tickets go for £100 +, this is a working class sport in Wales, again in the 90's tickets were relatively cheap, now they are mega.
Sewing and sewing supplies. The new machines are plastic garbage and since its become a hobby rather than for the average person the patterns after the 70s use way too much fabric.
I prefer older machines to newer once’s anyway, as I learned how to sew on them. I also prefer older patterns, as they’re generally not a fussy and complicated. I’m not a professional tailor, so simpler patterns will be used way more often than the more complicated ones. But I will say that the price of the fabric line makes it more expensive than buying ready made, though if you’re halfway decent at sewing, the quality will be much much better.
Load More Replies...Before old enough to sew, I was given "the privilege" of cutting out the tissue paper thin patterns fresh from the package. You made sure to never mess up because that pattern was going to be used again and again.
Old Singers, Juki, and Pfaff, are really the only good ones nowdays. Yeah, I'm an old straight guy, and I sew.
I was lucky to find a well-maintained Singer Athena 2000 from 1975 in a custom cabinet at a thrift store. $100 for everything. I was exceptionally lucky to find it because it has helped me enjoy my hobby for many years now.
I have an awesome vintage machine, and you can get patterns regularly for 99 cents. But the fabric! And what is sold in the chain stores like the green one is garbage quality. It used to be far cheaper to make your own clothes. Now you have to order from some place like Mood to get good quality fabric and it'll cost you a car payment for enough for a suit.
I blame this one partly on fast fashion -- you can buy clothes for way cheaper than you can make them, so a lot of people stopped making their own clothes -- and partly on the growing trendiness of quilting. Too many wealthy people with a lot of leisure time and a lot of money to throw around got into quilting and jacked up prices on everything. It's ironic, considering that quilting started as a way for poor people to use up every scrap of precious fabric!
I've really wanted to learn to sew but the price of a machine prohibits that, which sucks because if I learned it would be extremely beneficial due to finance for me. I do laundry every three days since for summer I only have two pairs of shorts and a dress lol
Vintage machines are better and still affordable, though some antiques are overpriced. There are a lot of small pattern companies, and decent fabric can be found. Making over clothes, refurbishing clothes, recombinant garments are affordable.
I learned to make a zig-zag stitch on my mom's old Kenmore by holding the cloth fore and aft of the needle and jerking the front hand back and forth. It worked pretty well.
Load More Replies...Timberlands. They used to be good, inexpensive work boots that would last you forever, but once they got popular with celebrities, the price started going up and the quality went down. Now they're treated like a luxury brand and it's easier to find them in pink or with bedazzles than in a traditional color.
I love my doc Martins industrial wellinton boots. Only drawback is they aren't waterproof.
Load More Replies...Caterpillar boots too. I got a pair in the 90's and wore them constantly. Unfortunately they got a brief name as fashionable resulting in the quality taking a nose dive.
yes they used to be single heels now there double heels and way heavier than they were in the 90s!
I still have a pair of Timberland boots from 1990. They still look brand new!
They used to be inexpensive and more comfortable than most other more expensive ones. I wore a pair to pieces with years of camping.
I'm sorry I'm just picturing some burly construction worker with these bright pink work books with glitter...and I love it
Coachella Used to be (years ago) a kick back event with music lovers. It’s now a s**t show with over the top antics and an opportunity for rich folks to party. The music isn’t the main reason they go.
In the nineties it was Lollapalooza, Phish and Grateful Dead shows. Brand new Birkenstocks and clean hair everywhere.
no it wasnt... I toured with Phish in the 90s. It is like that now, it was not like that then. back then the kippies followed dave mathews.
Load More Replies...I'll never go back to Coachella again. The cost of Have over tripled in the last 15 years and it's disgusting.
Mexican food, especially simple stuff like tacos and burritos. It used to be the cheap option, especially where I live as there's a huge hispanic population and lots of great cheap Mexican takeout places. Then all of a sudden tacos became trendy and now places with $5+ tacos exist and everything went up in price pretty quickly. karmagod13000 added: Prolly like ramen noodles or McDonald's. fast food isn't even cheap anymore.
When I lived in Phoenix, I left in 2019 and lived there 27 years…you could always find cheap tacos. Guys would set up a little stand late in the evening and set out a couple of tables and chairs with a tarp overhead…cheap tacos. My favorite places is Filiberto’s and in the 90’a you could huge big fat burritos for a couple of bucks…now they are three times that at least !But damnit. Filiberto’s was so freaking worth it ! Love their carne asada burritos with a large pina flavored aguas frescas. They aren’t here in Montana where I am now. 😢. But next summer I’m moving back to hatch chili country..Las Cruces New Mexico. !!! woo hoo ! Tacos here I come !!! lol
When I can go to the Mexican place and eat with my family for fifty bucks and McDonald's costs the same....
Mcdonalds is SLOP. I'd rather get the Applebee's 2 for 25 and get 2 entrees and and appetizer. Then I'll stop by mcds for a cheap large drink
Load More Replies...OP, have you noticed that the prices of everything have gone up--especially the cost of food--in the last 5-10 years? It's not that "tacos became trendy", it's because the price of beef and pork and vegetables has risen by about 8-10%, and that rise in cost is passed on to the consumer. It's the same with fast food chains. I thought this was common knowledge.
The last 5 to 10 years? How about this past year? How about during lockdown? We’re being unnecessarily gouged by corporations who are making record profits but cutting jobs and not dropping prices. And for what? To buy the CEO another billion dollar yacht? F**k that s**t.
Load More Replies...2005-6 mi goreng noodles were 10-15c a packet, kept me alive in uni etc. Now I’ve seen single packets for $3 😂 it’s stupid. I hate those noodles now but I hate the thought of other students not cashing in on the same deals
Ramen packets pre-pandemic were between $0.15‐0.25 Now, they've been charging $0.39 - 0.50 or more. This is the cheap nothing but noodles to reconstitute and a boulion packet
I miss the taco trucks in Los Angeles. A buck a taco and 3 for a huge burrito and free pickled jalapenos. When I ask for ceviche at the mexam places here they look at me like I'm crazy.
Yeah, McDonald's became way too expensive for the food they offer. Here in Germany we thankfully have lots of other options available
Anything that was relabeled as "communism" so that the rich wouldn't have to pay more taxes / give up their lucrative business models. e.g., Unions, state subsidized healthcare, estate tax, etc.
Affordability health care, affordability housing, affordable groceries, retirement...
Nobody tell the Capitalists about public schools, firehouses, or roads. They'll privatize that sh*t, too.
The biggest thing with state subsidised health care is it actually benefits capitalism more than harms it. You get your workers at a set standard of health, the more workers you have that are actually able to put money back into the system. If people are healthy enough to work they're earning their keep and are going to be able to spend more without worrying about having to pay thousands to make sure they can survive if they have an accident.
Avocados have become so popular that the locals can no longer afford them.
To make it even more perverse: At my German "Penny" supermarket (a cheap supermarket) right in front of my house, avocados cost just 55 cents. Origin: Mexico. They come all the way from America to cost us 55 cents but the locals can't afford them anymore? Something is terribly wrong here. The same with blueberries. We have the cheapest blueberries from Peru here, even in winter. How are the farmers paid?
The avocado fields in Mexico are owned by the drug cartels.
Load More Replies...Apparently the Mexican cartels have taken over avocado farms as they are so profitable.
Supposedly there is a glut here in Australia but that doesn't make them cheaper either
Luckily we live in an avocado area. We pay NZ$4 or $5 for 5 avos at the beginning of the season (when they’re going for a few dollars each at the supermarket) and then we get maybe 7 or 8 once they hit peak season. And they’re just down the road from us so fab! 💕
All produce, where I live, has skyrocketed. . . then again so has EVERYTHING else 😕
That reminds me of the prices for lemons & limes in San Diego (more expensive than in Seattle). I was talking to the produce manager at the grocery store and was like "You know they grow here, right?" Luckily my Dad had HUGE citrus trees and practically begged us to come take some every week.
In the '70s you could get Avocados 5 for a dollar, US. Now they are about 2 dollars each.
In Vegas they are very affordable at the Mexican grocery stores
research the big avocado dump in australia, hipsters and vegan wankers went nuts for avocado now farmers have too many because its become too expensive to buy them, hipsters and vegans cant afford it because, like the avo, they have driven up the proce of veggies so humble worker have to spend half your pay oto eat healthy
Storage shed auctions used to be really cheap until that stupid Storage Wars show came along. Now instead of buying cheap for some furniture, too many people are jacking up the prices thinking that there's some lost antiques worth thousands that they'd find in every unit.
People who participate in storage auctions are vultures. People are storing their stuff and fall behind on payments and instead of allowing them a chance to get back on their feet their stuff gets stolen by scavengers because of shows like this
Ethical implications notwithstanding, the bidders aren't stealing anything. Pretty sure every (legal) storage unit comes with a contract that states failure of payment results in the stored items becoming legal property of the storage facility. Whether the company decides to give the renter time to get back on their feet, donate the items to charity, sell them, or auction them off is up to them.
Load More Replies...I lost my storage unit due to a miscommunication (I had to have some auto repairs done and couldn't pay on time. I called to tell them I'd be in to pay on X date, plus the late fee, but the message was never passed along). All of my Christmas decorations were in there. I'm talking a lifetime's collection, some ornaments were on my Dad's first tree in 1942 & some that came from Norway with my Grandparents in 1881. Sold at auction. I freaked out. I called the Manager absolutely bawling. He agreed to contact the lady who bought it & see what we could work out. I offered to pay her whatever she paid for the unit just for the Christmas stuff. Thankfully she had a heart & I got it all back.
that show was such a crock of s**t, those "antiques" were either c**p or placed in there before the auction, and those who were not part of the show were nto allowed to bid on those lockers, they were for the stars and it caused such a big stir for those who make a living off those lockers and not paid by a tv show
People who overbid and get nothing will eventually lose interest and sanity in auctions will return.
Also garage sales and antique store because of shows like American Pickers. Used to be able to buy things at reasonable prices, now everyone saw the guys on pickers offer $100 for a rusted-out sign and all of the sudden their junk is now worth more than gold. Well then call those guys and have them stop by and purchase your stuff because no one else is going to pay those prices.
The production hides the semi-valuable and interesting items to some lockers. Very rarely are there big wins. Also, some storages are dead people's, either no family or family does not know it exists.
Every little cool mountain town in the American west.
And antiquing! You could find quality, real wood pieces of furniture to refinish or leave natural for little money. I have a mahogany dressing table that I bought and and a cherry sewing table that a friend found on the side of the road that I love. Now, going to look for antiques has become too expensive, and there are too many people with too much money there to enjoy it.
You need to switch to auctions. Our local auction house is super picky about what they sell anymore because they say the younger generation isn't buying. (With the exception of their tool auctions. People discovered those and deals aren't as good anymore.)
Load More Replies...Yes! Please, if you weren't born here, don't move here. We're not built to accommodate this many people.
It would be cool if there was a website tracking when a cool small town was at capacity and direct you to other towns that had half their population leave bc of a factory or mine closing. Balance things out. Feels like some mountain towns get way too big while others die a slow sad death.
Load More Replies...Check out Sandpoint Idaho. Most beautiful place ever - we bought a nice house on acreage with a barn and multiple sheds for $54k in the late 80's. A nice 46 acres with a 4 bed/3 bath home for about $150k in the 90's. Now the average home (smaller end) is $500k - $700,000k. While we are still relatively small by population it's increased way too much, way too fast - and locals are quickly being priced out.
Cases in point: Boulder, Denver, Santa Cruz, SF, LA, Seattle, Coconut Grove... the list goes on...
Uhh, none of those are “little”, and only Boulder could be considered a mountain town. I think the OP was speaking of places like Crested Butte, Durango, Telluride, Aspen, Flagstaff, Park City, St George, Bend, Kalispell and the like that are now so expensive a weekend visit is all a middle class person can afford…. Living there is poverty with a view.
Load More Replies...The champion brand. I remember goodwill and walmart selling their champion stuff for cheap, now it's "designer" and it costs so much more now smh Edit: I'm so glad that other people know what I'm talking about. This was my first comment after making a reddit for myself, also, "designer" is a very strong word. It's more "in trend" and popular. It's not as big as Michael Kors and Steve madden but it's difficult to find a champion sweater for less than $50-100+ when it used to be $10-20
I love Champion clothes! You're right, they used to be inexpensive, quality clothes. I found some Champion t-shirts online last year that were pretty cheap, and they were much more substantial than more expensive ones I bought that were so thin you could see through them.
I despise the cheap, flimsy fabric so many clothes are made of these days. Grrr. I don't want see-through either, nor do I want to wear layers of flimsy clothing until you can't see through it.
Load More Replies...In elementary school I used to get made fun of for wearing Champion clothes from Kmart.
Dang, I saw the name Champion and my first thought was spark plugs...
This happened to me with New Balance many years ago, going from some of the best running shoes to just being overpriced street wear.
I remember reading an article that a journalist wrote for a men's magazine. He talked about how he decided to do a piece on men's undershirts. He tried out everything, from the cheap Walmart stuff that's like $15 for a pack of 10, all the way up to a luxury brand that was $300 per shirt. He said that the expensive shirt was *nice,* but his personal "sweet spot" was the Calvin Klein three-pack for $45. $15 per shirt isn't ungodly expensive, he liked the quality and the softness, and they held up well regardless of how sweaty they got or how much he washed them.
Same with FILA here in Denmark. Growing up in the US that brand was what you got when you couldn't afford Nike or Adidas. Now it's just as much if not more.
I have a 17 year old champion t-shirt that still hasn't worn or torn
Almost all of my sleeveless Ts are champion... all of them are also a decade old for this reason.
Colorado. The original locals are being forced out of the state by the wave of Californians coming in, dropping $500k cash on a house, and then voting for NIMBY zoning laws to keep new housing from being built to compensate for the increased demand.
Again, I don't think this is just "Californians". I think there is a trend of banks and investment groups buying up property and then sitting on it to drive the prices up.
I blame the weed. I like the weed. A lot. But I blame the weed for this.
Load More Replies...Californian's are leaving their state in greater numbers than ever before. Texas is also a preferred state for relocating. I'm in the Houston area and I'm seeing more and more articles about it. Those who had homes in California are able to practically buy homes here outright, with little to no mortgage. Plus, they get homes with 3 to 4x the square footage AND a yard. And the fact that we have no state income tax is another reason. So far, they seem to like the Dallas, Austin and San Antonio areas more than us.
Same in Utah. I wish I would have bought a house when they were cheap! Instead I got a townhouse and regret it every day. I will NEVER be able to afford a house where I live
Load More Replies...Can we petition to keep Californians in their own state until they fix it?
When I moved from DC to CO in the early 90s, everyone I met asked me if I was from California and come there to ruin their state, lol. Nice to see Californians still get blamed for it (and honestly, it's largely well earned blame).
How can that be when Idaho, Washington,Oregon and Florida are all claiming that the Californians are moving there 🤔
Florida is the number 1 migrated to state, Texas is number 2. California is the most migrated from state, followed by New York and Illinois.
Load More Replies...He problem with people from Cali is they move to some other state then they wanna turning in to the same sh@t hole they moved away from.
Californians don't want your snobby Colorado shite anymore. You guys got crazy gun toting politicians you can't control. Blame rich red state peeps coming in to ruin it. California's are leaving the country, not the state
In Nevada it is the same. You can’t drive on any road without seeing 14 Californian license plates
Because california is next to nevad. Many drive thror go there to vacation. There are just as many Nevada plates in CA
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Vinyl collecting. It was a dead, cheap to get into industry as a hobby. Now come and get your $50 RSD special jizz splatter Chet Baker EP.
Just grabbed a 50 pound box full of LP's for 20 bucks, no idea whats in there, bought sight unseen, need to start going thru them.
I’ve collected vinyl since the 1970s and must have at least 3000+ LPs and as many 45s (much to my wife’s dismay). There’s no way I’ll ever turn to digital. Buying an LP when I was a kid was a special event and with the artwork, lyrics and info, it felt almost like owning a share certificate in the band.
So many of the covers were amazing art in themselves, let alone, the music inside!!
Vinyl got pushed aside decades ago with digital music, and so a lot of used record shops closed because of it. I was surprised to see vinyl making a marginal comeback. I'm assuming it's some kind of "hipster" fad.
For me it's getting rare stuff that still hasn't been digitised.
Load More Replies...I still have over 8000 LPs! Most are just well taken care of originals. It's insane how a 45 year pld record I bougt for $4.99 is now "remastered, 180 Gram, colored vinyl and going for $45.00! Oh, and the extended box sets that can be like $500 and up!!
I had well over 100 LPs, one had the original poster with the LP house of the holy I bought in 75. I gave them all to my daughter. Even though I love her I still regret giving them away
The re-releases of albums are ridiculously expensive, and often on two records when they were originally on one... and the "original" (used) versions are increasingly difficult to find.
New pressings of old albums at NZ$50 when you can buy a download for maybe NZ$10. Make that make sense. 🤷♀️
Used vinyl is only worth what the market will bear. Other people's garbage is just that. Don't waste your hard earned $ on such trivial things
Vegan food. When it became a trend the label vegan made it 50% more expensive.
There was a huge scandal in the late 2000s when it was reveal most pizza shops didn't use real cheese, because plant based was cheaper.
Today vegan cheese 200% compared to normal cheese.
Most pizza shops? Source please. I've never heard of any pizza place using fake cheese. I looked at Wikipedia and in the 90's there was only one brand of commercial vegan cheese and it cost twice as much as real cheese. I think this one is just a lie.
All cheese made from dairy products is actually just pre-digested vegan forage-based baby food.
Load More Replies...Same with any kind of dietary requirement to honest. Gluten free, low carb, no sugar is all a lot more expensive because of people that eat those things because its trendy now. The people that really need low carb and gluten free (diabetics, celiacs etc) are forced to pay more for food for that won't make them sick.
I question the veracity of "most pizza shops didn't use real cheese." I've had fake mozzarella and I am 100% sure I could pick it out in a pizza.
Just get rid of that mush altogether and add some binder to that deconstructed salad djude
Load More Replies...My sister & her family are vegan. When I'd have a family dinner I'd make spaghetti bolognese and just cook the sausages on the side, or do a "build your own" Greek salad, but always asked that they bring their own sausages or cheese. Ridiculously expensive for foods my husband & I don't care for.
There is 'fake cheese' for pizza. It's not real mozzarella, but a simulacrum created from cheese culture--much like cheap parmesan. Read the label.
Organic grown Vegan is more expensive. Government regulation increases cost of farmland, fertilizer, water, labor, packaging, transportation, … and when demand pushes supply prices increase. Total inflation has increased over 20% since Jan 2021 and it’s still high. Welcome to the new normal
Creating YouTube channels.
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The worst part of this is that they all use the same format. Vlogs, 50 different camera cuts in a span of two minutes, clickbait titles and thumbnails.
you mean when it was easy for YTbers to prey on kids, be creepy to kids, ask kids to tr*k on camera, make them do any labor for free for YTbers...?
Load More Replies...Also pisses me off is the constant 'subscribe' certain channels do every couple of minutes...no I effing won't subscribe
Not just creating them either, but editing to the algorithm. Gone are the days of fun creative youtube channels and videos, now its all forced into a formula to get promoted for $$.
Molly Whuppie remember those fun creative times when YouTubers asked kids to do creepy s*uaI stuff on camera for them? asked them inappropriate questions and force them to work for free for a YouTuber?
Load More Replies...OWEN CASH excessive jump-cuts were popular in 2009 in Jenna Marbles' videos
Load More Replies...DON'T FORGET TO HIT THAT LIKE BUTTON!! Just. Stop. Saying. It. We know how YouTube works you don't need to tell people to like you
YouTube was for stealing anime, and that's all it should have been
Haywood Jablome don't forget YouTube was also about using r*cist sIurs and teaching kids it's okay and makes you edgy and you should just that at school to all your nonwhite classmates. it was so normal 10 years ago. and asking 12year olds about oraIs*x , those videos were gold
Load More Replies...The main problem are the viewers only reactions and reality tv like b******t instead of quality humor and even better productions than most TV channels could dream of. It's just not worth the effort anymore to make quality content if the reactions get more klicks.
Living in the middle of no where like a forest or near a lake.
Back in the 70s living near a river in London was considered the pits. Now thanks to the re-brand of 'canalside apartments' buying a flat next to that same river will set you back a six or even seven figure sum.
Isn't it a plus that the Thames is no longer a sewer?
Load More Replies...My sister's family lived PAST the middle of nowhere. Out in the desert (US), 70 acres, in between 2 ghost towns. Believe me, the middle of nowhere still exists.
I think the difference is in the definition of middle of nowhere. Like in your case it literally is. In the past it'd mean there'd be a nice small town with a diner, gas station and a nice tight knit community of a hundred people within a short driving distance.
Load More Replies...Couldn't PAY me to live near a river here in Mi. Flooding and mosquitoes???I'll pass
I lived near a lake until earlier this year - it SUCKS. It's cold as balls, and the high water table ruins the stumps and foundations. There's always a tinge of damp in the air, and you're very prone to mould. The only upside was the amazing about of native fauna and having a safe place to go when a bushfire threatens.
We got the opportunity to move back to the Pacific NW (Springfield, OR) from San Diego. We live 2 miles from the Willamette River in a pretty decent neighborhood. But - it was actually cheaper for us to BUY a house than it was to find a rental we could afford.
Taking junky old cars and fixing them up as a hobby. Rich people discovered they could buy up loads of potentially very worthwhile project cars for not much, restore them to a level of unobtainable quality and price which drove the price up, now everyone "knows what they have" (eyeroll.png) and holds out for the big buyers instead of the neighbor down the street. They turned a hobby into a billion dollar industry and entertainment conglomerate so they can sell the cars to other rich people since few people can afford a $200,000 restored Mustang or GTO or whatever it is.
Dad and brother overhauled VW Bugs and Buses for fun when I was a kid. They could buy cheap, repair and sell off at a profit. I just saw two overhauled Bugs that were tagged at 18,000 USD last week. Savages!
I had a '65 Bug that someone firebombed. We push-started the burned-out hulk and drove it to the house of the guy that bought it for parts. I still miss that car. It was a fun thing to drive.
Load More Replies...Bought a '66 Plymouth Belvedere back in 1980 for 50 dollars....wish I didn't run it into the ground.Was in great condition to, would be worth 5K today
There was a case in the US maybe 20-30 years ago, where a guy was selling his fully restored show pickup--he was ready to retire from the show circuit and didn't want the upkeep anymore. He wanted to sell it for something like $20K USD. A criminal saw the ad, got in touch with him and his wife, and convinced them to come out to the boondocks to complete the sale. The criminal and his accomplices murdered the couple, and the criminal claimed he legally "bought" the pickup for $6K, or less than a third of the original asking price. The couple's friends/relatives knew he'd never let the pickup go that cheap, so the guy who "bought" it was a suspect almost immediately. IIRC, he's still in prison.
Saw a 67 stang last year go for $17k.The only parts left that could be unbolted and removed was a non-original steering column and the left front fender which was bent beyond repair. It had been hit so hard in the right front that the substructure had been ripped completely off the firewall and the rocker panel under the drivers door was bent to the left. It was just a wrecked shell and had clearly been sitting in the woods where the pictures were taken for decades.
In the mid-'70s you could buy a running used car for under $200, keep it alive while driving it, sell it a couple years later for the same price and essentially have a free car for two+ years. No more, and I'm a former mechanic!
Grunge/punk style clothing - bought for few $$ now designer versions sell for 100s.
They get done to death, they get copied more and more badly and cheaply, for way too long after the style goes out of fashion, and they’re on EVERYBODY’S backs, including people who are nothing like the people who originated the look, and are probably the same people who hate the ones who originated the look. Altogether, it robs it of its originality, its meaning, and its individualism. It’s no longer special and unique. It becomes commonplace, lifeless, and tasteless. Ruined.
Load More Replies...This is so sad. But I don’t know if I can still rock all my grunge clothes from the 90’s. Bought em cheap too. A pair of black chunky mary janes I bought for $20 back in the 90’s…same exact pair is now being sold for $160 because it’s popular now. Who can afford a pair of shoes for that price. ???
…if you can’t wear your clothes anymore I’ll take ‘em? (This is a joke I do not actually expect clothing from you)
Load More Replies...I don’t know, so when I was goth I found it nice when places like supré / bananrepublic style shops had some cheap and different options other than expensive goth punk wear from designers (demonia etc which are awesome companies), you got a few cheap cheap s**t items to mix in that had cute skulls and a pop of colour, it was also super time consuming as well as fun to make your own punk wear too- I love you emo kids for making it more mainstream to be dark alternative etc we were given more options of dress because of it
Food that was cooked out of necessity. Chinese dumplings or pot stickers, for example, was a way to stretch out meat rations over an extended amount of time. A pound of meat can be quickly consumed by a family of five but if you wrap small portions of that meat with carrots, cabbage, and virtually any vegetable in dough and either boil it or fry it, you can satiate the entire household for a longer period of time. When rich people started making it, basically with the same ingredients, the tone of the dish changed. Before, it was consumed because hard decisions had to made to make it through a rough period. Now, at places like Fats, a set of five dumplings will set you back about fifteen bucks and served as an appetizer to a hundred or more dollar meal giving the illusion that you're eating some ballin' a*s dumplings when in reality, it's just dumplings.
I don't understand this OP's complaint. Anyone can still make dumplings at home to stretch out their "meat rations". How did "when rich people started making it," change the quality of homemade dumplings globally?? If the OP is referring to the cost of buying pre-made dumplings at a restaurant or frozen from a store, sure, it's going to be more expensive than and probably not as delicious as homemade because you're paying someone else to make the dumplings for you, and they will use the cheapest ingredients available so they can make a living selling dumplings. Maybe the OP should get off their butt and just go make some dumplings instead of complaining.
The idea of eating out as a luxury is not the same all around the world. There are many countries and particular cuisines where it is normal for people to have one or more meals at stalls, delis or restaurants after work or on the way over there. These places are also affected by prices rising, making simple food a luxury now.
Load More Replies...Is this why every dumpling recipe ends up making like 10,000 dumplings?
It's the time and effort. I make gyoza from scratch a few times a year. Family secret recipe with secret sauce. It's amazing. But the time it takes... I would be charging $1 a piece. I hate paying for it out, because I know I can make it cheaper at home. But I am also appreciate the effort and not having to sit for HOURS getting finger cramps folding tiny folds. This one is more just something going mainstream
The 'minimalist' lifestyle. You're a multi-millionaire yet for some reason you live in some squeaky clean, showhome apartment with brushed metal everything, and own almost literally nothing. You call this "liberating", when the reality is lots of people genuinely can't afford that apartment or indeed any contents for it.
Unlike a lot of other things on the list though, this isn't hurting anybody. Deciding not to have a house and a life filled with stuff isn't bad.
And anyone can opt to live a "minimalist" lifestyle!! It's free.
Load More Replies...Brushed Metal Everything is the name of my Black Sabbath tribute band
If people pursue minimalism with the aim of surrounding themselves not with clutter but only what they need, then good for them. I don't have many possesions but what I do own is good quality and used extensively because they're essential to my lifestyle (mobile phone and laptop for example) This saves money and stress as well because I'm not thinking about buying and hoarding stuff and to me, THAT is liberating!
Minimalism is for people who know that they can buy whatever, whenever. Poor folk keep stuff just in case.
"Stupid rich person and his stupid apartment filled with unnecessary rich-person things" "Stupid rich person and his stupid apartment furnished minimally." Apparently a lot of you are just jealous, bitter, spiteful, envious fools.
It’s because when you are poor you can’t afford to throw away something you maybe can have use of in the future. You never know if you can afford anything later, so you save up different textiles for repairing clothes. Saving spare parts. Put away for later. And so on. If I was rich I would absolutely enjoy the luxury of having empty spaces and not worrying about how to afford to buy new
It's a kind of HR plot with us peasants. "See, we're just like you! But with a billion dollar's account, mind you. But it's the only difference between us!" No, it's not.
The cost of the raw, unfinished materials skyrocketed. So, we moved onto plywood and then BOOM plywood does the same. Of course, one could argue this is any trend (sadly)
Wood costs more these days, just like everything else. It takes time for forests to grow to the maturity level needed for harvesting. Plywood is an engineered wood product, and many of the chemicals used in creating plywood have been found to be carcinogenic, so new chemicals that are less toxic have been developed for use, but they're more expensive than the toxic ones.
Load More Replies...Hulu, YouTube and quinoa. The first two used to be as free as well as free. I remember we used to find ways to watch Hulu at school on the school laptops. I watched lots of spice and wold and other anime on there. YouTube used to be awesome. Now both are full of ads and not as entertaining because of it. Not to mention they charge you for them just to avoid ads and then Hulu doesn’t honor their word. SMH. Edit to add that a whole civilization used to have quinoa as a big part of their everyday lives. Now big companies have made it a popular health food that costs an arm and a leg. Now they cannot even afford it anymore.
I use quinoa because my body sucks and I can’t eat rice, one of the foods on the lowest end of the allergen scale, because I have a food intolerance to it. I love rice! It doesn’t love me back. 😞
Unrequited food love is the WORST. I miss coffee 😔
Load More Replies...This is where i kind of say this isn't correct. Most people have no ides HOW MUCH it actually costs to run a service like youtube, you can stream up to 4k content for FREE do you know how much bandwidth that costs? Ad's hardly make up for it. So many people stopped hosting their own videos and started using youtube like businesses and personal storage. They can not be expected to just take a huge storage and bandwidth hit at Zero cost to everyone that's just insane.
Spice and wolf is a good series, not an anime mega fan but I loved that one
But ads on YouTube pay for all that free content. People on one hand complain about ads on YouTube, and on the other hand about paying for streaming services...
The problem is paying for streaming and STILL getting ads.
Load More Replies...Alaskan King Crab legs. When I was a kid, we could get a 1 lb box for $.99
Back in the mid sixties, when my four older brothers and I were still living with our parents, we used to be able to afford enough Alaskan King Crab legs to make very filling Sunday dinners for seven people. Of course, back then $25 in groceries could fill the entire back of a station wagon——AND someone bagged them properly for you, then someone else would help you load them properly in your car at curbside. I’m not talking bout a grocery store in a ritzy neighborhood either. We lived in a normal middle class (middle middle class to lower middle class, definitely not at all upper middle class or rich) small town neighborhood.
Blame the TV series, "Deadliest Catch". Popularity (in the US, anyway) went way up. Then they got over-fished. Then quotas had to be reduced to help them recover, then with supply down/demand up, prices went through the roof.
Changing conditions in the Bering Sea (think climate change) has caused the population of King Crabs to plummet and cancel the fishing for them.
My brother was a crabber for years. Every time they'd come back from a run, he'd come buy with an ice chest full of King Crab Legs. I'd have to soak them in the sink with fresh water & lemon slices because they were so salty, but OH! they were worth it.
My husband was on a mission to find some Alaskan King Crab legs last time we went to the coast. We finally found them - for $80 PER SERVING! I couldn't believe he ordered them, he's usually such a tightwad.
Hot springs. Used to be for everyone, and often viewed as dirty or undesirable by the upper class. Now people are buying up land featuring hot springs and making them expensive resorts.
Depends on the hot springs. Saratoga Springs was already hoity toity 160 years ago, but there's still plenty of free hot springs in Oregon
Shhh, we don't talk about our hot springs... it's our secret!
Load More Replies...My only problem with hot springs is people always want to use them naked. I'm not a prude by any means, but I really don't want to see some strange Grandpa's junk.
Pretty much anything retro video game related. For awhile there everyday people used to be able to find quality retro games, systems and peripherals (Atari, NES, Genesis, SNES, Turbografx, ColecoVision etc) at flea markets and garage sales for just a few bucks. Now everything is snatched up by a handful of resellers and pumped up in price on ebay or at conventions. Thank goodness for emulation.
To be honest, it's natural this stuff gets more expensive as more time passes. Things get lost, break, and eventually they get rare. Sucks to be a collector now tho, with people having better access to checking the prices of what they found from the attic, lol.
I used to collect games and consoles and it did get out of control, there really isn’t a supply issue, you’d be surprised the amount of second hand barely used super old consoles out there.
Load More Replies...It's not just Games.The model building community has been hit too. You could go to a Flea Market For a model, and then for paint and glue, Hobby Lobby and get your child a nice start for a $20.00 bill.Now in the Flea market the model is fifty bucks and by he time you do Hobby Lobby you've spent almost a 'C"Note!
Same thing started with the Wii/PSP. People buy up loads of them to sell them online at a higher price. Look at what just happened with the PS5! They were bought up immediately to be sold for double or more and the avg gamer had a hard time getting one unless they were willing to pay double+ from these ciucci.
I just wish companies were more open about emulation. If you've got a 30 year old game then FFS release it on an emulator. Hell, maybe even talk to some of the software emulation people and actually work on licensing deals. We're talking games that have already made their money. So anything extra they get now should be considered cream. No need to do fancy remasters, just support the emu people and sell the original ROM images for a tiny price. Nearly zero work, 99% profit.
I have an emulator from Walmart that cost less than $40 dollars. It plays original Nintendo, Atari, PlayStation, arcade games, Gameboy, and several different platforms. It came preloaded with over 1500 games. Mind you, many are foreign, and can't play in America, or I can't play them because I can't read the languages, but many of them are in English, and work just fine. Many of them that are action, sports, or outer space that are foreign work on my system, and once I get used to them, I'll be able to play them just fine. My absolute favorite Nintendo game series is on it, in English, and able to play. You can also download games for free to play on it. The controllers are battery powered, and I can't stop playing for long.
I dont know what OP is talking about. I see these things selling for pretty cheap on average.
It's a really, Really, Really big world. Just as you can't relate to op's point because it's different for YOU, o t h e r people are having a DIFFERENT experience.
Load More Replies...Yoga. Supernova008 added: Man! An an Indian Hindu, the way western people appropriated and completely ruined yoga is very damn infuriating.
To be fair though, this happens a LOT when cultures meet. For example: A lot of people were copying Maori "Ta Moko" tattoo designs, even though they are sacred. However, Maori, being the awesome people they are, created "Kirituhi", which is similar, but carries no cultural or religious significance. As well, there are people all over the world who wear crosses because they think it's cool, even though they aren't Christian, and it has no religious significance to them. My person feeling is: as long as it's not hurting anybody, and not stealing someone's cultural identity (e.g. Ta Moko, or wearing a particular Clan's tartan) I don't think we should worry TOO much.
In general the people complaining about cultural appropriation always say its racist. But how is it racist to like something from a different culture? We want different cultures to integrate and stop segregation but then some people start arguments like people can't wear braids or dreadlocks when not black...
Load More Replies...How have the wealthy ruined yoga for the poor? Aren't there many different schools of yoga practice among Hinduism, Janism and Buddhism, and that traditional and modern yoga is practiced world wide? I don't understand why the op thinks yoga has been "appropriated" by westerners when it was Swami Vivekananda who introduced the Yoga Sutras to the West. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Vivekananda
I don't agree with it being ruined for the poor, just that the west is profiting from something and not crediting the origins. The other part of it being banned or made fun of when poc people did it as weird, and then a cute white chick starts doing it on you tube and then everyone is into it and it's cool with no reflection or apology to the tons of people they hurt when it wasn't mainstream. And also the loss of the cultural and historical relevance, that is what bugs people
Load More Replies...I don't think it's infuriating. At least they are practicing yoga. I'm an Indian, but I hardly find myself trying yoga. So it's great that they're interested. Everyone is open to try anything they please.
In America's bible belt yoga is considered a religion and some places ban it because Christians cannot tolerate any other religion. Hatha Yoga is really just stretches people! The postures came from observing animals stretching.
I live in the bible belt and I have never heard of this. I don't see how rich people doing yoga has ruined it for poor people. Just do your poses - you don't have to pay for it.
Load More Replies...Fa lung gong - those people are great and the meditation and exercise is so fun, they don’t ask for money, just for your time and openness to their culture
Creativity on the Internet everything seems to be patented or copyright protected.
I remember the early days when the Internet was still like the Wild West, and everything seemed free. Now, everything has a subscription.
Delightfully tacky, and unfettered. You used to have to do your own censoring.
Load More Replies...Unless you are a creator, in which case everything gets stolen constantly and copyright means nothing...
If you, as an artist put an art piece you've spent your energy, time and skill on, onto the internet to show your art for sale, why should you not put a copyright on it so others don't benefit from your labour? We as artists, should protect our art.
People are so entitled these days that they think everything should be free. They don't understand what goes into creating something of value from nothing.
Load More Replies...Ripped denim jeans. They're casual, comfortable, and usually ripped in places caused by typical wear patterns. Then rich people had to make them weird, make them with clear plastic cut-outs. Make them look how an alien would guess what ripped jeans are supposed to look like if you translated it into their language poorly and then had to describe them. And then charged $2000 for the monstrosity.
I refused to buy my youngest those. Why would you pay for jeans somebody ripped up on purpose and is charging you for it? Charging 2x to 3x times MORE than the cost of unripped, decent jeans? Finally agreed to let them have a pair IF they could find them at a resale or thrift store for $10 or less. They found a pair at a local thrift store for only $5. I happily paid for them. They were a designer brand that retailed for $50 to $150.. after showing them that, they happily shopped second hand for expensive items.
Pre-ripped clothing and 'distressed' furniture drives me nuts. If I'm getting something new, even if it's just new to me, I want it to LOOK new. I have pets that'll wear everything out fast enough, no reason to hurry it along.
Load More Replies...When I worked in a warehouse I was almost proud when my knee finally ripped through a pair of jeans. Like, yeah: this is genuine!
Tybee Island, Ga. Aka the Redneck Riviera used to be a place where one could get a house close to the beach for a relatively low price, until rich movie stars started buying there.
I'm pretty sure barbecue was created by poor people as a way to make bad cuts of meat slightly edible. Now those same cuts are as expensive as the rest because barbecue isn't the last option before starvation.
Carhartt equipment. Used to be for people who do work. And now the beenie costs $35. (LPT: the same carhartt beenie you see everyone wearing is still $7 at the Home Depot, and like I said, about $35 in stores at the mall!)
Beaches, a bunch of country clubs and families bought up most of the public lakes and now if you want to swim at a beach you either have to drive out of your way to the few public areas left or pay out the a*s to a country club
Every public piece of nature is owned by either the town, county or state in NY. On Long Island, You have to pay for passes to get in or get a reduced entry price for parking. There’s an empire pass for all state parks, and county pass for all county parks and a town pass for all town parks. It’s crazy to have to look up who a natural area is owned by in order to determine whether or not you should go, or buy a pass for it if you frequent it.
Living in cars. Maybe not so much "loved" but with housing being the way it is - living out of a car/van is one of the only ways people can get by. The rich trying to capitalize on the boho lifestyle and how "freeing" it is to go so minimal is gross when the people in the car beside them are just trying to get by. People can't afford rent and a car to get to work, somehow rich people stepped in to make that look appealing.
I spent much of my 20's working sh*tty jobs and living in an old VW bus on the side of the road that was held together with zip-ties and voodoo. Now I see trust fund kiddies whose parents pay for everything posting videos making it look like a hip lifestyle and congratulating themselves on being so unconventional and quirky.
But they also have the luxury of calling those same parents up if the gear box dies on that car 😆 they don’t even know
Load More Replies...I haven't heard of rich people doing this. The only way I might be able to see this affecting the poor, though, is if rich people suddenly decided it was hip to camp in a car, van, truck etc., and started driving up the prices in parking areas to "drive the riff-raff out", and started using their money to push out the people who NEED parking because they don't want to park next to poor people. THEN, I could see it being a problem. Otherwise, if they want to live in a car, who does it hurt?
Target. I don't have a Walmart by me, so a while back, this was the cheapest store next to the dollar store for us. Now thanks to all the rich people on social media hyping it up, it's not as inexpensive as it used to be. I've even heard some rich moms complain that it's 'not as cheap as people said it was'. Yeah, because you guys won't leave it alone.
I've worked in retail comparison shopping for a while now, and Target and Walmart prices are pretty on par with each other, so I don't really get this. There are some areas where Target costs notably more, like clothing and home furniture/goods, but on average, those items are better quality, not to mention the far better experience of shopping inside a Target than a Walmart. Walmart is the most overhyped cheap goods store. They usually have the lowest "standard" price on things they sell at any given time, but if you are a savvy shopper, "sale prices" at other retailers and grocers will often be less (and you can usually find that item on sale at least once a month elsewhere). Target "sale" items are almost always better deals than Walmart, especially on household supplies. The best things to buy from Walmart are items that rarely go on sale elsewhere.
We had a K-mart, then Walmart came in and built right beside it. K-mart closed within a year of Walmart opening.
I miss K-mart, I remember growing up in Philly and doing our back to school shopping there, and getting a hot dog from their lil eatery, I believe most closed down
Load More Replies...They tried to come to Canada. Wife went to the new store, said the clothing was c**p. The store closed within a year.
My understanding from Canadian friends is that no "real" Targets were opened in Canada. They just tried to rebrand Zellars, and they were quite different than U.S. stores.
Load More Replies...The Internet - Remember back when all of the things that now have outrageously pricey subscription fees or are locked behind paywalls were all freely available and there was a variety of competing sites innovating and experimenting with new ideas. Not saying things were perfect and there have been many QoL improvements since but the core ability of people anywhere in the world having free and equal access to a huge variety of content has now been segregated to those who can afford it. Also many of the features of sites that do have free offering levels, have had services (once offered for free), now behind a paywall as they are considered desirable and very little new features that add meaningful value are added.
Remember when you actually bought and owned technology, like with the discs to download internet sites and programs like Microsoft Office?
Yup. Almost everything has paywalls or subscription tiers now. Anything digital now really...websites, games, software. Some things I would be willing to do a one time purchase for, but now the subscription model has really become ridiculous and overused, easier to make money if the consumer doesn't actually own the product after all. -_-
Graphics Cards.
Fam my monitor is more expensive than the 3060ti in my desktop. My laptop with a 3070 was 710 used from fb marketplace. It's not expensive if you buy second-hand lmao
Living in Brooklyn.
My mother grew up in Carroll Gardens, in a cold water flat that cost $35/mo. The last time that 3 story brownstone sold, it went for over $3M
Chicken and waffles. Got some at a place recently that bragged they used hand-breaded chicken strips (aka microwaved nuggets). wtf - just put a piece of fried chicken on there and call it good.
I am not sure I understand this one. I live in the Deep South, home of chicken and waffles. And Fred chicken. And fried okra, and greens and all the yummy stuff. Most places use tenders and not bone in. True story, we were craving this and after a freezer scan, we had mini frozen waffles and chicken nuggets. Viola! Cheap imposter chicken and waffles. They did in a pinch.
Hunting in my area it use to be a way to get some cheap meat.
What has added to the cost of hunting? The licenses, equipment? Curious.
There are a lot of hobbyists taking up hunting because it is trendy and cool. Very dangerous. A lot of people do not know basic safety procedures and go out into the woods with guns.
Load More Replies...Public hunting property greatly diminished. You must pay exorbitant attention of money to go on expedition hunts. These hunts are on private properties and include guides, firearms and ammunition. Along with this one can stay in a hunting lodge with food and drink provided.
Rap music!
I want to know your opinion on scat music 😂
Load More Replies...The Goodwill bit is very true but I don't blame rich people. I Blane trashy people scouring Goodwill to resell every thing and try to make a fortune and they come from all economic backgrounds. Except the very poor who can barely afford their own clothes and now especially can't afford them at the only store they used to be able to- Goodwill.
Yes. People should consider the ethics of buying in thrift shops and then upcycling.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I really think this is the fault of greedy capitalism. We can't fault people buying what they like. Supply and demand has existed forever.
People are greedy, whatever the system they are in. Not just rich people can be greedy, but you just can't do much problem when you are poor and greedy.
Load More Replies...Most of these are because the [product] became popular. The blame should be placed on capitalism and those that profit off it by saying oh it's popular now, let's jack up the price.
Maybe in a few cases, like the ripped jeans (which you can make your own at home, so why buy?) , but most of the consumer price increases are due to the rising cost of production. As the cost of materials to make goods increases, it is reflected in the cost of the manufacturing which is passed on to the vendor who must sell the product at a price that also pays the expenses of the venue (rent, taxes, wages, insurance, electricity,) as well as (hopefully) enough revenue to live on. Add in that consumers have been demanding "eco-friendly" and "anti sweatshop" products causes the price of production to increase to accommodate these values.
Load More Replies...This article may have contained a lot of truth, but it's also anxiety-inducing. As it is, when I go grocery shopping, I feel like I can't afford to eat. My son needs new shoes and clothes, but that's not gonna happen any time soon. And reading this just reminded me of the hole I'm trying really hard to not fall into.
If I could answer that in just one word? WATER … to the poorest of people in the world, clean water is one of the most precious things they could ever wish for. Sadly, the rich people of the world who are corrupt & don’t care about the poor. They have no problem polluting water sources with toxic waste, plus there are companies like Nestlé who say “water is a privilege, not a right”. Then there’s the more recent story of the government official in India, who drained an entire reservoir just to get his mobile phone back; all that drained water (now deemed unfit for irrigation) was meant to help with severe water scarcity, crop losses & forest fires. He didn’t care that many people would suffer as a result, but he cared about the phone & he cared about the eventual loss of his job. Just goes to show; even something like water can bring out the greed/selfishness in humanity. 🚰 🤷♀️☝️
Many of these complaints are mere sour grapes and ignorance. Don’t like it when people upsell Goodwill stuff? Then shop at Goodwill. The rich ruin tacos/dumplings/ramen? Eat where they’re cheap (e.g. Chinatown) not chain restaurants. Yoga is still yoga—just not affordable at fancy clubs you are not required to join. Scarcity is critical: yes, salmon was cheap; in Colonial times they were over- abundant; creeks and streams had to be cleared with pitchforks; labor contracts often specified that laborers could be fed salmon only so many times a week. Got a beef with gentrification? Try this: young couple marry, save, work hard, raise kids, put ‘em through college, meanwhile pay mortgage, utilities, insurance, repairs for 30 years. Then the nest is empty and the old folks dream of Arizona—but you say no, don’t sell, forget warm retirement, remain in freezing north. A lot of you moaners have a lot of growing up to do. You don’t recognize your own entitlement.
The Goodwill bit is very true but I don't blame rich people. I Blane trashy people scouring Goodwill to resell every thing and try to make a fortune and they come from all economic backgrounds. Except the very poor who can barely afford their own clothes and now especially can't afford them at the only store they used to be able to- Goodwill.
Yes. People should consider the ethics of buying in thrift shops and then upcycling.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I really think this is the fault of greedy capitalism. We can't fault people buying what they like. Supply and demand has existed forever.
People are greedy, whatever the system they are in. Not just rich people can be greedy, but you just can't do much problem when you are poor and greedy.
Load More Replies...Most of these are because the [product] became popular. The blame should be placed on capitalism and those that profit off it by saying oh it's popular now, let's jack up the price.
Maybe in a few cases, like the ripped jeans (which you can make your own at home, so why buy?) , but most of the consumer price increases are due to the rising cost of production. As the cost of materials to make goods increases, it is reflected in the cost of the manufacturing which is passed on to the vendor who must sell the product at a price that also pays the expenses of the venue (rent, taxes, wages, insurance, electricity,) as well as (hopefully) enough revenue to live on. Add in that consumers have been demanding "eco-friendly" and "anti sweatshop" products causes the price of production to increase to accommodate these values.
Load More Replies...This article may have contained a lot of truth, but it's also anxiety-inducing. As it is, when I go grocery shopping, I feel like I can't afford to eat. My son needs new shoes and clothes, but that's not gonna happen any time soon. And reading this just reminded me of the hole I'm trying really hard to not fall into.
If I could answer that in just one word? WATER … to the poorest of people in the world, clean water is one of the most precious things they could ever wish for. Sadly, the rich people of the world who are corrupt & don’t care about the poor. They have no problem polluting water sources with toxic waste, plus there are companies like Nestlé who say “water is a privilege, not a right”. Then there’s the more recent story of the government official in India, who drained an entire reservoir just to get his mobile phone back; all that drained water (now deemed unfit for irrigation) was meant to help with severe water scarcity, crop losses & forest fires. He didn’t care that many people would suffer as a result, but he cared about the phone & he cared about the eventual loss of his job. Just goes to show; even something like water can bring out the greed/selfishness in humanity. 🚰 🤷♀️☝️
Many of these complaints are mere sour grapes and ignorance. Don’t like it when people upsell Goodwill stuff? Then shop at Goodwill. The rich ruin tacos/dumplings/ramen? Eat where they’re cheap (e.g. Chinatown) not chain restaurants. Yoga is still yoga—just not affordable at fancy clubs you are not required to join. Scarcity is critical: yes, salmon was cheap; in Colonial times they were over- abundant; creeks and streams had to be cleared with pitchforks; labor contracts often specified that laborers could be fed salmon only so many times a week. Got a beef with gentrification? Try this: young couple marry, save, work hard, raise kids, put ‘em through college, meanwhile pay mortgage, utilities, insurance, repairs for 30 years. Then the nest is empty and the old folks dream of Arizona—but you say no, don’t sell, forget warm retirement, remain in freezing north. A lot of you moaners have a lot of growing up to do. You don’t recognize your own entitlement.
