Hope is an incredibly powerful tool. It can help humans persevere through the most painful experiences, and it keeps many of us going at the end of the day. Even if nothing went your way this week, you can hold onto the hope that everything will turn around next week. None of us can predict the future, so for all you know, something amazing will happen!
But being optimistic can be exhausting at times. And some people have decided that they have to give up on views and ideas that just aren’t realistic. Redditors have recently been discussing things that they just can't believe in anymore, so we’ve gathered some of their brutally honest replies below. We realize that this isn’t the most uplifting topic, but we hope it inspires you to finally let go of anything that’s no longer serving you.
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Edit: as a German just f**k you. You still look at Germany and point your finger at us. Asking us how WWII happened. Now look into the f*****g mirror. THIS is how it happened. If he pushes his project 2025 through then you will have THE EXACT same thing but on a MUCH larger scale.
Often times the leader of a country reflects its character. By electing the Orange Ogre, a convicted felon and horrible businessman, as our POTUS, the voting public - as a whole - have said loud and clear that the USA is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, horrifically ignorant, and dumber than a sack of potatoes.
Yup, and I hope they realize they are on the wrong side of history sooner than later.
Load More Replies...Sorry to say you're right. We're terrified over here. The sane ones, that is.
The sane ones on tiktok saying they wish harm onto Trump supporters?
Load More Replies...As an American with a Dad who was stationed in Germany in the Army in the 60"s I have to say my faamily bears no animosity at all. When someone says Germany I think of a good Lager and a Brat :) not the guy with the toothbrush moustache. We get it here too dude. Ppl point at us and think slavery is still our fault and I was born in 1966 man. I thought the big hair and those big a*s combs were cool lol. Racism is still rampant here though and that breaks my heart. I love my country but I am embarrassed for condition we are in now. You can curse at me but still got nothing but love. We are all human, skeletons all look the same, rich, poor, idiot, genius.
As a german I really appreciate to not get blame finally (in the end it wasn´t up to me since I didn´t live there so I don´t feel shame or anything towards that, still nice to see) So I don´t think you should feel bad how USA is now. It isn´t just up to you - you do what you can do and the rest is also up to others.
Load More Replies...As a Canadian who's always paid attention, watching the slide from Reagan to Bush Sr. to Bush Jr to Trump has been insane. Every year they get a little bit worse. Every year they cut more education and ban more books.
The country is sliding into authoritarianism followed by chaos followed by implosion followed by irrelevance.
Load More Replies...Ignorance is not a blessing! This is why í will never go to the US. Nothing is right there. How can a convicted fellon rapist á traitor child molester a tax fraud and the most stupid person on the planet and so many other bad things get to be a president? There is something seriously wrong with more than half of the US population! Just WOW!! Go be a fascisist country if you really want it so much but leave the rest of us alone!!
The rest of us Americans who never wanted him are scared. The sane of us don't want to be a fascist country. We're going to fight against it the best that we can.
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Load More Replies...As an American OP is 100% correct lolol - we have a prison fruit for a leader so…
As part of the majority of American's, this is not 100% true. You got to look at issues from both sides and not just listen to randos on the internet saying baseless things
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The intelligence and compassion of my fellow humans.
It turns out that decades of catering to the lowest common denominator has reduced our species to selfish, brutish animals who avoid thinking at any cost.
The world is literally on fire, but too many people would rather have someone else do all of the hard thinking for them and then complain about the consequences later.
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I can no longer hold empathy or patience for the willfully ignorant.
I'm tired of living in a world where people willingly avoid any form of critical thinking by having someone else make the "big decisions" for them - only to then whine about the consequences for their actions.
I'm tired of living in a world where people are mocked for being learned. Where literacy is considered a niche interest. Where people deride artists, but demand the fruits of their labor.
I'm tired of being in a world where someone's worth is centered around how much money they have.
I'm tired of people stepping over their neighbors in order to get ahead.
I'm tired of people demanding the benefits of living in a society, while complaining about having to contribute to it.
I'm just done with people in general.
It turns out that actual intelligence is such a rare quality in humans that it's practically a rounding error at this point.
I agree with Matthew McConaughey's character on True Detective: human consciousness was a giant misstep in evolution.
I've been noticing compassion and consideration are going up a bit. A bit.
Yep. I've decided to become a total recluse. I no longer leave my house. Just me & my dog, eating some popcorn, watching everything burn.
This is all so common in the US. I just can't understand why. When did we decide to hate so much?
Karma. Bad people do bad things and get away with it.
Technically(according to the teachings), karma doesn't follow our timeline. A lot of people get the concept of karma worng. The westernised version is not what it is. To have Karma enact "justice" according to our calendar so that we have some semblance of normalcy is not how it works.
Absolutely correct. The entire point was that karma defined your NEXT incarnation, it wasn't intended as a self-correcting mechanism in the here and now.
Load More Replies...My Name is Earl is a great show, but TV != reality.
Load More Replies...Getting away with it is bad enough but we have so many people in politics who fall upward.
Aren't we seeing that on an absolutely global scale now. IT's only going to get worse.
Yeah, that doesn’t exist. You think people would reap what they sow… but no.
My sister was defrauded by a con man of over $80,000 and lost her car too. She was damned near suicidal. She was angry that people like him have such a good life while people like her suffer. I noted that he had alot of enemies, alot of nefarious friends, alot of court cases, a long rap list and he was losing friends daily because no one was safe from his con's, his family had long disowned him. But, he doesn't care, he just takes and always comes out on top. No, he looked over his shoulder every day, he slept with one eye open and had to run and hide constantly, he was constantly having to plot and plan to keep a roof over his head as he wasn't welcome anywhere. The toll? I told her he would never make old bones, he didnt, he died of a massive heart attack at 47. We perceive the lives of these types as perfect, we can't see from the outside looking in how deep and ugly the hole they dig, how pointless and useless their machinations are.
Oh, Karma is definitely REAL. You rarely get to find out how Karma punished someone, but it sure is satisfying when you do. Remember, kids, Karma is a B*tch, but only if you are!
I've seen it many times and no one is outside it, actions have consequences, pay attention, do good deeds to pay your debts, we all have them.
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America.
They are not to be TRUSTED. When people fear the politicians instead of the politicians fearing the people you're in trouble.
He's been the "sheriff" once before and made a mockery of the country. All we're going to see is how badly he can screw it up again.
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That hard work alone ensures success. I've seen too many cases when the appropriate timing and connectivity are required.
And lots of rich people are lazy bums whom the would would never miss.
Load More Replies...I'm known at work as a hard worker. I get the most s**t thrown my way and spoken to like c**p. Lesson learned. I've toned it down a notch and now I'm "being too slow". You can't win in a work place unless you play your cards right in the beginning.
I’ve been there too, but now I just give bare minimum, I only excel and go above and beyond if it is customer service for the customer directly.
Load More Replies...It's tough to unlearn but after decades of working hard all I received was more work.
Working hard does pay off - just not always for the person doing the work.
Hard work is just one part. Being clever about it, and being lucky getting opportunities, there is a lot more to it.
It's at least 50% network. You can work on your network anywhere you meet people. I worked in a store and made new contacts there that helped me further. Just be kind to others, listen and never be scared to share what you want out of life. Make a 5 year plan and inform people around you about it (the grand scheme), people will want to help you reach your goals.
I assure you, many people have success due to the hard work of others, not themselves.
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Right now? On election night? I've stopped believing in America. The dream that was America that was drilled into me as a child of the 70s and 80s. That all people actually had an equal voice. That justice ruled the land. That we were a UNITED States.
Thats all gone.
Its every man for himself and "f**k you, I've got mine".
Maybe my blinders are finally off. Maybe its always been that way.
In any case, my belief in the "Shining City on the hill" is dead.
Its all over, and I will mourn its loss.
United States always had the disinformation problem. From the American Exceptionalism myth to the shining city on the hill to the greatest country in the world, is propaganda. Instead of dealing with the problems head on, there was this delusion created to keep the masses dis/misinformed and vote against their interests. George Carlin and other comedians and philosophers have spotted it and tried to inform.
To quote a maxim 'Empires rise and empires fall.' I suspect we are whitenessing the US empire falling.
Roman Empire outlasted them (length wise). Then again, if you look at all other empires, most last between 200 and 300 years so it's right on time there.
Load More Replies...The most frightening thing to me is not realizing the source of some of that disinformation.
I am so sorry for you. Unfortunately here in Canada we seem to be going down the same path. There is a wee bit of hope though: our federal government is a multi party system, and there is a moderate middle of the road choice.
The federal election is less than twelve months away and right now, the Tories have a massive lead in the polls. The Tories have been slowly mimicking the US Republican Party lately. The summer by-election of Toronto-St. Paul's is proof of that, what was once a safe Liberal seat going to the Tories is a sign that the tide is turning.
Load More Replies...How you gonna do with climate change in the next 30 years? I don't imagine Australia would fare well. I think a lot of Americans would love to move to Australia in general. You seem the most like us (us, the "normal" people, not us the government or the quack jobs), although of course they are very different countries.
Load More Replies...Amazon, Xitter, Facebook and tik tok rule the world. I would recommend a listen to a BBC pod cast. 13 minutes to the moon. Listen to the characters that came out of the deep America and used science to land the man on the moon and then reflect on what the doork has gone wrong.
'Back in my day' and 'when I was a kid' are the same thing. You don't remember the bad stuff because you were a kid. Your parents shielded you from worrying about bills and you didn't watch the news, it was cartoons all the way!! The world was always this awful, if not worse. The ONLY difference 'these days' is that due to smart phones you can see, in real time, the horrific destruction that men (it IS always men, isn't it?) inflict on civilians around the world..
Oh, no, sometimes things get much worse, and they are much worse right now in the US. Much, much worse.
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I no longer believe the United States will remain a democracy.
"A demagogue who is elected POTUS after fomenting fear and promising drastic economic and social reforms while promoting a return to patriotism and "traditional" values. After his election, " "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." -- From It can't happen here by Sinclair Lewis in 1935
And don't forget the Russian influencers, hackers and more who spread around misinformation on the elections, because Trump is a Putin-lover, and wants to give up Ukraine to Russia.
Load More Replies...The United States has never been a democracy. It was established as a republic and has remained one.
Finished reading It Can't Happen Here before the election and gave up all hope. Funny though it was Democrats in the book. The long decent has begun.
The oompah loompah might be the very last democratically elected President of the USA..
This past July 26th he told Christians that they won't have to vote after this election.
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Faith in my fellow human beings. LMAO what a joke. I thought we were better than this but here are.
Yeah, but, like, why would you think we were better than this? Humanity has done terrible things, including slavery and genocide. This doesn't go against our track record.
Because for quite a while we were admitting that these were horrible things, not defending them and trying to get back to them.
Load More Replies...Honestly, everyone is an a*****e sometimes, and other times those same people are awesome. For me it's more the placing of you trust in the wrong people and those people (in power) abuse this trust.
I'm in Asheville NC. Im often saddened by my species too, but what I saw from my fellow citizens after Helene was a BEAUTIFUL It's disappointing to me that it takes being on the precipice for people to be openly compassionate, but it can/does happen.
I no longer believe that integrity matters, or that laws have meaning, or that the truth is important.
"laws" are just rules that the rich may break and the poor may not
Everyone knows the system is broken, how do we fix the damned thing
Load More Replies...Yes, these are dark times, and I can't control what anyone else does or thinks. The truth is important to me. Integrity is important to me. Kindness and compassion are important to me. I will do my best to treat people with decency, with compassion, with kindness. Because it matters to me, and I need to be able to live with myself. Let's treat ourselves with kindness and compassion too.
Kakistocracy /kăk″ĭ-stŏk′rə-sē, kä″kĭ-/ noun 1. Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. 2. Government by the worst men and women. 3. Government under the control of a nation's worst or least-qualified citizens.
I no longer believe in the idea that 'everything happens for a reason.' Sometimes, things just happen—random, unplanned, and without deeper meaning. I've found it more comforting to focus on making the best of what life throws my way rather than trying to search for some cosmic justification behind every tough moment. Sometimes, life is chaotic and unpredictable, and that’s okay. It’s what we do with it that matters most.
Yeah. And "God won't give you more than you can handle." F*** you and f*** your god.
Load More Replies...Everything happens for a reason... from a physics standpoint. From a philosophical standpoint, sometimes that reason is that you're stupid and made stupid decisions.
I keep hearing this from my mom, and then she asks why she has the life she has. It's not even that bad, her life, as she makes it out to be. Maybe when she was growing up she had it tough. But that's when she was younger, and then she tells me that the past is the past whenever I bring up past stuff in my life. So, I view people who say everything happens for a reason are the martyrs in the society and they are annoying af. That person thinks they have it worse than everyone else, but if bad happens to others it's in the benefit to them. It makes them feel better other people have it worse then give the silver lining speech. I hope that makes sense.
I hate that saying with a fiery passion because I don't see the reason behind women and children being raped and/or beaten. I don't see why someone like my stepdad who was a very healthy man had to get cancer and die at a young age or my uncle who also died of cancer. I don't see the reason for hundreds of children being shot in schools. That is the most absurd saying ever.
Sorry, Nikole ... I'm religious and have never believed that, nor do many other people. If you don't like having people make assumptions about you, maybe stop doing it, too?
The Mormon church. I was a member for 21 years. I hated it. I hated what I had to believe. I hated the kind of person I had to be. I hated everything about the church. But I believed it was 100 percent true. So I lived it for 21 years. The day I let myself accept it wasn't true was one of the most freeing feeling I've ever experienced.
Yup! Once I started learning about world religions, it was impossible to believe that only one belief is true. Also, about how much God sounded like a petty human more than an all-powerful/knowing being.
Religion should give joy. It should have some simple rules to live by that help you in your life and to become a better person. It should teach tolerance and love for those who are different to us and to those who believe differently. I've yet to hear of a religion that ticks those boxes..
I am glad for OP. It is funny - religion is believe. And you can literally believe what you want. So you would think this is ultimate freedom. But then churches want control. And all the bad things happen.
That I was supposed to know what I wanted to do for the rest of my life at 18.
Maybe you'll never figure it out. Just be open to learning new things. Enjoy the scenic route.
Yeah, I did not either. I am 58 now. Made my career, though. And I am as happy as I can be with my life's choices.
good for those who already know, the rest of us :D ... well we can try out things till we die I guess
I no longer believe there is a singular purpose for each person. Nor a "meaningful job" every person should do. At the end of the day, there are too many people and we need more and more people to fill menial jobs that people think is beneath them, except foreigners and teenagers. This mentality is hurting society.
People, Justice, and Common sense.
Justice isn't real. I remember growing up thinking that bad people will eventually get caught and punished and only a few would get away with it. As an adult I now know personally that it isn't true. Twice in my life I've had to defend myself against different people literally trying to murder me. Both times I managed to fight and survive. Both times when hauled in front of a judge my attempted murderers cried and begged were just "so sorry". Both times the justice system made them super-duper pinky promise they won't ever do it again and let them go with no court ordered rehab or monitoring or community service or any real consequences at all. Just a restraining order to stay away from me. I've spoken to other victims in support groups and they've experienced the same things, at least those of us who were attacked by white people. The people of colour of course got sent to jail.
Common sense does not exist due to the access of knowledge depends upon geographical location and financial ability. To me, it's basic knowledge to know that not everyone has the same experiences ... and yet, many people still think their experience is the definition of the experience.
The decency of my neighbors. Trump won this round decisively, the American people have spoken and they want... *That*.
Yes, but...he says he has a mandate, but just north of 50% does not a mandate make.
I think a lot of people went with the process of elimination on this one. Obviously the majority of Americans have reached their breaking point with woke liberal nonsense.
Americans know what they want, and the choices presented are not what they want.
I am beyond heart-broken over the election right now (and I'm saying as someone who doesn't think highly of the Democratic party by any means). I don't know about now, but when people would say half the country voted Trump in in 2016, I would remind them that he only got a vote from 24% of the eligible voters. I am very angry at the non-voters right now.
Proof that not only can you not fix stupid, but you can elect it to office. Twice.
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I dunno. I don't really believe in anything anymore. Life in general is an empty, meaningless slog. I admire those who can enjoy it because it's impossible for me.
If you are not able to feel happiness anymore, please go check for depression/ anhedonia. I wish I would go for treatment much earlier instead of listening to my mother claiming praying is answer for everything. Praying is not gonna treat a sickness. Doctors will.
No amount of anti depressant d***s will help when you are in a bad situation.
Load More Replies...Girly I'm holding on by a freaking thread the only thing that's keeping me going is T.V. and video games.
Same. And mostly games 'cuz the TV is mostly trash.
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That most Americans are not stupid.
They are not. But they have lost the ability to think critically & analytically. That's by design. Defunding education will let you keep the low informed even less informed or push a lot of disinformation, they'll listen to simplest story. And they'll do it again by getting rid of DOE.
And don't even let you read certain books. Yeah, banning books that certain people don't like further limits critical thinking.
Load More Replies...More than 50% of those eligible to do so, voted for the convicted orange narcissist rather than the woman.
Load More Replies...There is a difference between being stupid and willfully ignoring your intelligence for the sake of your own greed, bigotry, and shallowness.
I*d say they are massively uneducated. Which serves the powers that be just as well. Unfortunate, this.
Get on some medication Manny. You are basically scanning every comments which opposes Trump and try to slot in some backhand comment. I am not American. However, you did vote in a felon, a mysoginist, a coward ( what poor kid went in his place to Vietnam) and nine times bankrupt. You wonder why people are appalled?
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I no longer believe in 'finding the right time'. If you wait for something to happen, you can always find an excuse not to start it.
The future of our Constitutional Republic. Clearly this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.
Clearly some people here don't get the Star Wars reference. Amidala's words have made me shiver then and now
America. America is a Republic. If it were a democracy, the Electoral College wouldn't exist.
Load More Replies...You don't get it, do you? It's not feeling sorry for themselves, it's realising the bigger picture of electing an imbecile into office. Again. At best, he achieves nothing. At worst, he destroys American democracy. Trump doesn't care about the US, he cares about Trump. He's not president because he wants to serve, he's president because it's good for his ego.
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Democracy. I no longer see republicans as people.
When one person can do all the horrible, inhumane, illegal, cruel, hateful, despicable, repugnant things, get away with them AND people love him for it, that's a Republican. Those people that can say democrats do those things are liars, fools and cultists.
If you don't see them as people than what options do we have to solve our issues but war. If you can't see another human for a human, if you can't discuss with them that is what will kill democracy.
Elvira394, How can you say you don't see GOP represented here. There are plenty of posts supporting trump and his cultists. Have you read all of the comments? It's not like they are banned books, you are allowed to read them.
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the fallacy that one can function with less than eight hours of sleep. People, coffee can only do so much.
I get 6 hours a night. I wake up naturally and I feel fine on that.
Different people need different amounts of sleep, and how much sleep you need is determined by the BHLHE41 gene (also known as DEC2) which regulates circadian rhythms. The ADRB1 gene also influences sleep patterns, and how your body responds to the hormones that regulate sleep, though ADRB1 has negative impact on other aspects of health, where DEC2 simply allows you function on less sleep (known as short sleeper syndrome) I sleep on average 3 hours per night, been that way since i was 15 years old and the only health issue i've had in recent memory was a gallstone, 6 years ago. That YOU cannot function on less than eight hours of sleep is relevant only to YOU. Those with SSS also tend to live longer lives, on top of having more productive hours in their days.
You're misinformed. Children need much more than 8 hours, but most adults can function just fine with 6.5 or 7 hours. The problem is some people claim to be "short sleepers" who only need 3-4 hours. Those people are incredibly rare.
That facts matter. narrative is more important.
Upcoming liar-in-chief just proofed this. Or let's say, he did proof he is a great sales man.
I saw a news story (reported across the world by major outlets) which wasn't fact checked, didn't give the context and brought down the reputation of an entire group. With the facts checked AND the context given it turned out that entirely the wrong group of people were being blamed. Too late - the story was already gone..
The idea that humans are basically good (in the sense of morality) and intelligent (in the sense of wisdom).
Historically, and as events over the last couple years have continued to highlight, culminating with the election results in the US...humans are simply a more advanced form of primate. We are - in general - tribal, selfish, and greedy. And emotionally stupid.
Contrary to our religious aspirational ideals, our complex philosophical navel-gazing or our grandiose self assumptions, humans as a whole contain no inherent or ingrained virtue beyond that of any other animal. And in certain areas of our behavior, such as with our wars of political expediency and the choices demonstrated in the USA election, we are abjectly f*****g pathetic.
Humans still are apes. Apes with nukes. You see how that was a bad idea
The decency and intelligence and sense of ethics of the vast majority of humans.
Most people are not bad, but indifferent to evil and they refuse to learn, to understand the world around them, to understand cause and effect and to have at least the basic empathy.
Most people are not bad, but they want bad people to govern and they don't care about evil unless evil and bad policies affect them directly. And I mean directly them, not their family their friends, their community. Them.
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me.
The survival of the human race in the face of climate change.
Humans are tough critters, and some of us will survive. I doubt that the rich hogs (my apologies to pigs) will, though. Even if they get to their bug-out bunkers, they'll have to come out eventually - and they have zero survival skills.
The human race will survive. We may reach a genetic bottleneck as we have in the past, but the species will survive. Our attachments to how that will unfold only cause us angst. I only hope they evolve spiritually at the same pace as they do technologically.
It's getting to be mid November and I'm sitting in +4C weather, no snow, in the middle of the prairies. I remember going trick r treating in the 90s and 00s, in my costume stuffed over my snowsuit, wading through mountains of snow. Mount Fuji has no snow on it's cap yet.
Wow, you manage to prove the veracity of many of the statements in this list, I have to admit I'm impressed by you limited understanding of everything.
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Remember when we were all little kids and it was drilled into our heads how we were the best nation in the world? Welp.
Well, make you super proud, leave you mostly uneducated so you never learn critical thinking, etc. Works for those in power.
That humans are good by default. This election result was the final nail in the coffin.
Sorry people, but have you dealt with children? They have to be taught to be kind.
Not really. They are both very kind and very cruel. How and in what kind of environment the child grows determines which trait prevails
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That adults have everything figured out and their life is a smooth journey on a fixed path.
My wife had her life planed since she was a teen. I was just along for the ride.
Humanity.
“I frankly don’t give a f**k how it all turns out in this country—or anywhere else, for that matter. I think the human game was up a long time ago (when the high priests and traders took over), and now we’re just playing out the string. And that is, of course, precisely what I find so amusing: the slow circling of the drain by a once promising species.” - George Carlin. The sad part is that a lot of selfish, greedy humans will also cause the extinction of other species.
The ironic thing is, because I love history, I'm a lot calmer about the recent US election. Yes, it's really bad for the people currently living in the US and it might even be the beginning of the end for the country as a whole, at least in this current shape, but everything ends at one point. There's an excellent podcast out there called "The Fall of Civilizations" by a guy named M.M. Cooper and after listening to a few episodes, you realize that's how history goes - every country has had a birth, a life, and, eventually a death. And I include in that changes of governement - the French Monarchy, the French Empire and the French Republic are different countries, even though they continue one another. Sometimes that death took centuries, but eventually it was gone and replaced by something else. To think the US is somehow imune is simply hubris.
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Hope for the future.
Of all things we no longer believe, believing in the better future is something we all must do. Seriously, we ought to believe in this. Immediate future may be bleak, but having the hope that it will get better later keeps our spirit alive. It keeps humanity alive. The survival of our own species depends on it.
The belief that people can influence others. I've learnt that people must want to improve themselves, you cannot do it for them.
You can't influence someone by telling them they're wrong. You can't influence someone by telling them they're right either. You CAN (maybe) influence people by asking them what they think and then asking them why they think that. Ask them to fully explain it to you (without judgement) When the explanation makes no sense - ask them to explain it further etc. If they say 'just because' then ask them when they first realised their opinion and what made them decide they thought that way..
When people say they care about you. Love you. Will always be there for you. F*****g liars.
This is very sad. I understand why they feel this way though. A very good way to tell if people truly care and love you are by their actions, not just their words. But, there is always a chance that the actions and words match but after time, feelings change and the love is no longer there. It's the risk everyone takes when loving someone (in any capacity; romantic, friendship, familial, etc)
That apathy won't prevail. 81M people came out to vote for Biden in 2020. At the time of writing this, only 64M voted for Harris and Trump is a mere three seats away from the presidency, despite everything we know about him by now.
Even Trump didn't reach his 2020 high of 74M though: at present, he's sitting at 69M. So even when you account for voters who switched sides, or Republicans who abstained, or whatever other scenarios might exist whereby people aren't just blindly choosing red or blue, 22M-odd people chose *not* to vote this time - most of them, in all likelihood, would-be Democrats.
Whatever their reasons, that's their prerogative. But for all of us outside of America, we're scratching our heads wondering why the turn-out was so weak considering the stakes. It's not like Trump increased his turn-out either; so the only answer is that, ultimately, a shitload of Americans are OK with it. They might not have voted for it, but they didn't vote against it either.
Y'all need compulsory voting, or at least forcing people to rock up and tick their names off. And change the voting date to a weekend. F**k your historical reasons for it being on a Tuesday. Fight apathy by forcing people to at least show up. If that still means Trump won, then so be it - but at least it'll be a group decision, and not merely the will of a quarter of you.
I think making election day a federal holiday that mandates employers give employees time off to go. Vote is a great way to do that. Pretty much like Trump has been proposing and says he might do for us.
You and I will be lucky if we still have the right to vote by the end of that things 'presidency'. You may be for him but he will screw you over just like every other woman.
Load More Replies...National holiday for voting, like every other civilized nation?
Load More Replies...People should have shown up for a yellow dog if it was running against Trump.
Load More Replies...God.
Anything the media says.
No. Do not give up. Somewhere there are young idealists starting a fact based information dissemination service. You/we have to find it, and support it. The stakes are too high to give up. The first steps are teach our kids: "what do I believe, and why do I believe it".
The problem is that conservatives are the people having the most kids. They pass their narrow minded beliefs on to their kids. So ignorance and close mindedness will have more human members. And they promote removing anything in schools that teaches compassion and understanding by calling it "woke". So if not from their parents and not in the schools, where will kids learn compassion and tolerance?
Load More Replies...Don't give up on true journalists. They have rules and regulations. Just ignore the talking heads- they're the ones stirring the pot and are not bound by fact-checking.
Downvote.. NPR, PBS, and voices like Fareed Zakaria and Chris Wallace who can present a reasoned thought. You still have to have an open mind and see SOME value in an opposing view.
That Humanity will survive to see 2080.
"Liberty and Justice for All".
I don't believe in perfection any more. Chasing it just left me fatigued, so I'm now settling for 'good enough', which has been much healthier!
Good enough usually is, while perfection is a pain in the a*s and generally is not rewarded by the extra effort.
Santa :(.
Democracy.
Everything occurs for a reason." Sometimes things just happen, and trying to make sense of it all can drive you insane.
People's ability to find common ground. I want the best for my fellow humans and if they feel the same then we can move forward.
“the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” No, no it doesn't. That arc is straightened out and heading away from the truth at an alarming rate.
Sick of people privileged enough to complain about political talk.
Load More Replies...So mostly, this thread is about America (<5% of the our planets population), it's perception of it's own values. Still, it will have a new President in January x
The US began to emerge as a globally significant country in the C19th century. It became a superpower after WWII. Its slide downwards became apparent with the credit crunch, with its acceleration to decline and collapse just starting. Asia's rise will continue. The World is changing ; as it always does. Nothing is constant.
Please don’t abandon those of us who try every day to fight against this. We need your support. :(
I understand the bleak outlook of the future and humanity based upon the events in the US. However, I caution all that don't believe: apathy will let things get worse. I'm not saying have hope, I'm saying don't let people with dangerous passion (of hatred and greed) beat you and keep you down. Find your own passion to make yourself, and perhaps others, believe again.
How many different ways do you have to say America is garbage? We get it. You hate us. You hate us more than Russia, North Korea, and Afghanistan combined. We are the literal worst. Can we please go back to celebrating art, humor, and cute animals?
Please link to a comment or post about hating the US more than Russia, North Korea and Afghanistan.
Load More Replies...I'm going a different route. Residual hauntings being from actual spirits trapped in their past lives, and doppelgangers being evil demons. Doppelgangers are probably the most common reports of the paranormal. I don't believe they are bad omens. I believe they are tied more to residual hauntings than demons. I don't believe residual hauntings are necessarily spirit related. There is a theory I have been expanding on in regards to environmental materials, like granite, limestone and marble, and water, can hold energetic vibrations and frequencies, such as sounds, smells and visuals, just like a camera, or tape recorder. When the environmental conditions are just right, repeated from when these events were captured in the same conditions, you'll see, hear and smell them again. People have reported seeing "apparitions" of those still living. Living people have seen their doppelgangers. We call it paranormal, demonic because we don't know how to explain it.
“the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” No, no it doesn't. That arc is straightened out and heading away from the truth at an alarming rate.
Sick of people privileged enough to complain about political talk.
Load More Replies...So mostly, this thread is about America (<5% of the our planets population), it's perception of it's own values. Still, it will have a new President in January x
The US began to emerge as a globally significant country in the C19th century. It became a superpower after WWII. Its slide downwards became apparent with the credit crunch, with its acceleration to decline and collapse just starting. Asia's rise will continue. The World is changing ; as it always does. Nothing is constant.
Please don’t abandon those of us who try every day to fight against this. We need your support. :(
I understand the bleak outlook of the future and humanity based upon the events in the US. However, I caution all that don't believe: apathy will let things get worse. I'm not saying have hope, I'm saying don't let people with dangerous passion (of hatred and greed) beat you and keep you down. Find your own passion to make yourself, and perhaps others, believe again.
How many different ways do you have to say America is garbage? We get it. You hate us. You hate us more than Russia, North Korea, and Afghanistan combined. We are the literal worst. Can we please go back to celebrating art, humor, and cute animals?
Please link to a comment or post about hating the US more than Russia, North Korea and Afghanistan.
Load More Replies...I'm going a different route. Residual hauntings being from actual spirits trapped in their past lives, and doppelgangers being evil demons. Doppelgangers are probably the most common reports of the paranormal. I don't believe they are bad omens. I believe they are tied more to residual hauntings than demons. I don't believe residual hauntings are necessarily spirit related. There is a theory I have been expanding on in regards to environmental materials, like granite, limestone and marble, and water, can hold energetic vibrations and frequencies, such as sounds, smells and visuals, just like a camera, or tape recorder. When the environmental conditions are just right, repeated from when these events were captured in the same conditions, you'll see, hear and smell them again. People have reported seeing "apparitions" of those still living. Living people have seen their doppelgangers. We call it paranormal, demonic because we don't know how to explain it.
