In the face of 40-year high inflation, you can’t help but watch your wallet get thinner. In fact, more than a third of American adults are tapping into their savings accounts to cover increased living expenses, withdrawing an average of $617 during the first six months of this year. As nearly everyone is feeling the effects of skyrocketing costs of everything from fuel to rent to groceries to entertainment, we could all use some helpful tips and tricks to stretch our dollars.
Being thrifty and finding ways to pay less for everyday goods is generally the way to go. But have you ever heard the saying "I’m not rich enough to buy cheap"? Turns out, some tactics that help reduce spending now can easily cost you more in the long run — whether in time, energy, or money.
So when one user reached out to 'Ask Reddit' inviting people to share "false frugalities" — low-cost things that turned out to be expensive — most people are unaware of, the thread immediately became a hit. We’ve gathered some of the most illuminating responses to share with you, so continue scrolling! Be sure to upvote the ones you agree with and then chime in with your own experiences in the comments.
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There was a sub about how to budget food/living expenses. And the ideas that people had were ridiculous and required you to be financially well off enough to facilitate their idea of what saving money is. I don't think I received advice from anyone who knew what it was like to be poor, or actually truly need to responsibly budget their funds.
One guy wanted me to plant a garden to grow some carrots or other veg. I explained that I have a small apartment, and that carrots are a dollar for a big bag. He actually got uppity with me and became a total shithead when I explained that I live in a small apartment in the middle of the biggest city in canada. There is no benefit to turning half my apartment into a garden so I can grow five bucks worth of veggies in a few month's span. I can't just go outside and plant vegetables. It's also cold here 9 months out of the year.
I got berated out of the sub after pointing this kind of s**t out numerous times.
I spent about $100 once on soil, plants, lumber for a raised bed, etc. to wind up with about $10 worth of a few veges. No green thumb here.
Bottled water. It's marketed to appear that it's healthier and cleaner than tap water, plus the plastic bottles are not sustainable. Just buy yourself a thermos or reusable water bottle and stop buying overpriced plastic with over-glorified tap water included.
It's healthier if you're in a region that has contaminated water, or parasites, like in Mexico, * for example, and other regions in countries around the world that are otherwise developed around the world.
Cheap batteries. They don't last, they don't work well, and many of them are duds. When I was in high school, I always, always listened to my discman. One day the batteries died so I walked up to the gas station and chose between the Duracell batteries and the bronze-colored batteries. I bough the cheaper no-names and they died before the day was over. And I had to go through social studies without music.
I learned two things that day; WWI history, and not to buy cheap batteries.
"Rent is throwing money down the drain"
Owning a home is not always smart. It can be, but not always. It's not just the house cost, but costs in taxes, interest, insurance, repairs and maintenance, etc.
Then there's opportunity costs. I know folks who can't move until they sell, and can't take better jobs cuz they can't move. A house can be a big anchor in some contexts.
Cheap, single ply toilet paper. You end up having to use way more just to get the same effect of the good stuff.
And you generally end up with a middle finger in your bum after it pokes through the cheap paper
Aggressive lane changing while driving.
All that accellerating to get into the "better" lane just wastes fuel, and you save a negligible amount of time.
There was a small TV documentary here in Australia I remember watching that did tests on it. They sent two drivers across Sydney in rush hour traffic: one who would change lanes only when it was absolutely necessary (obstructions, turnoffs, etc), and one who was super aggressive changing all the time.
The aggressive driver got to the destination 2 minutes earlier, though with *80% more fuel consumption than the other driver*.
Actually, I've always wondered about that, but had no way of testing it out!
I once watched a show about extreme penny pinchers. One episode depicted a man who spent about 3 hours a day riding his bicycle or walking around looking for dropped change around pay phones, gum ball dispensers, etc. The whole time I couldn't help but think that even a minimum-wage job would yield him more capital for his time, especially once you factor in bicycle tubes and shoes.
In general, people of this nature fail to realize that the benefits of having money is its positive influence on your quality of life. When your quality of life suffers in order to save money, you've completely reversed your priorities to a mind-boggling level.
This is a hobby for some elderly folks. Perhaps reliving an old past time joy of finding coins on the ground. I once found a $20 bill on the sidewalk. I was just walking, going about my day. I wasn't straining to meet quotas and multi-tasking. A minimum wage job, for the amount of work that you end up doing with little downtime, other than your required breaks, does not lead a great quality of life and the pay does not equal the time and efforts. IF I could make the same amount just walking and looking at the ground as I do at my current job I'd choose coin hunting. And the coins aren't taxed.
All construction.............do you want it done cheap? or do you want it done right?
When it’s done right, it’ll usually cost a lot less in the long term than when it’s done cheap.
Not going to the doctor/dentist!
Wellness checkups are important. Your prognosis will always be better if something is caught early on.
Surprised I haven't seen this yet; using third party hotel booking sites. The sites guarantee you a room and a price but not the type of room you requested. Calling the hotel directly will not only guarantee the room you want but often they beat the price of the websites. On my last trip a particular site favored by an Enterprise captain quoted $129 a night, when I called the hotel they gave me $79 a night.
I don't know where ur staying. I work at quality inn and we can't even match those sites nevermind beat them.
Thank you! Im sick of seeing these just call the hotel c**p.
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It can be either or. Surf in a mode that prevents cookies and look at both sites or call. Sometimes hotel itself has been more expensive then the booking site. Same goes for flights.
Same here, I just book online with the hotel I’m staying at.
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In a lot of cases, Air B&B - which started out as a cheaper option - is way way more expensive. I had a weekend away in one recently which I chose for the location and privacy, but it was $190 a night once I factored in cleaning and fees, while the local pub there has rooms for $90/night.
Going through third party sites creates more opportunities for something to go wrong (see that article a few days ago about the he patient hotel worker). I much prefer to book directly with the company, whether it's for a hotel, flight or car.
I read that article as the customer not booking the correct room type, which is possible on any website.
Load More Replies... Especially with hotel groups where they have reward programs. Going direct to the hotel is often cheaper as they pay a lot too those discount websites to sell rooms for them. Going direct to the hotel saves them money which they can pass on to you. And having their reward membership has its perks. Room upgrades, free breakfasts, executive lounges, complimentary beverages, etc. I always recommend talking to someone either in person or on the phone if they don’t have what you want online and be nice and considerate to the customer service representative or the front desks clerk because firstly, just because you should, secondly they may or may not be able to help you or make your stay better. We’ve receive some incredible, jaw dropping room upgrades. We’ve found out about some great restaurants and attractions. We’ve also made some lifelong friends. All by talking and getting to know the staff.
Exactly! I remember one time I showed up super late and annoyed to my Hilton hotel because the airport messed up, the receptionist took one look at me and upgraded me to an executive suite, full perks, just because she “felt I needed it”! Got free sit down breakfast, access to snack bar and private lounge, and about 200 more sq ft to my room just cuz I was a member and looked sad (and wasn’t taking my bad day out on the receptionist, but she had decided to upgrade me literally as I walked up so she didn’t even “give me the chance”!)
Load More Replies... I've been told more than once that buying direct can't match the prices on booking.com: makes no sense, but there you have it.
Not to mention that if you contact the resort directly, or go through a travel agent, you're a lot less likely to be "bumped" to a less desirable location. Friends of mine went through a third party site and found a "special offer" for a hotel on the strip. When they arrived they had been bumped to a less desirable hotel in the same chain that was well off of the strip due to overbooking at the resort.
You can do the same with flights. And some airlines don't sell through 3rd parties so you never see what they are offering of you only look at 3rd parties. Been a long time since I had to fly but at least 10 years ago southwest didn't sell 3rd party. I would check them out directly and they almost always beat out the 3rd party booking sites
SW still doesn't. you have to go to their site.
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If you belong to a reward program for a hotel chain, a third-party booking doesn't count towards your reward benefit. A "discount" room can cost you a free stay in the long run.
One thing on the other side - if you work for a big corp, check what their policy is with private use of their booking systems. I work for a massive corp and as long as I pay for it with a private card am permitted to use their booking agreements for personal use. I get hotels and hire vehicles, flights etc way way cheaper than I’ve ever managed to get privately. What’s also good is the standard of customer service is usually way higher too (our hire car provider has special phone numbers and booking desks for business for example) because as far as the company sees it’s you company booking not you.
Most hotels have an online price guarantee that their will be the lowest price. Use that to ensure you get the best price.
Everyone, don't get overwhelmed by the 79$ a night. We have no idea where they are staying. It could be Afghanistan for all we know (no offence Afghans, it's just the war.) If your spending time in a less affordable country don't look for this price. Besides there could be bugs in these hotels.
I ALWAYS make my reservstions directly with the hotel. I get the room I want and usually $100 cheaper than those 3rd party sites.
I use booking.com to find good places to stay, then I call the hotels directly looking for deals. Every time I've been able to find a better price.
Also you usually can't cancel as easily or make requests as well. Plus you don't get loyalty points from the hotel chain. Pick a chain and stick with it, you can get so many perks it's absurd and you're more likely to get chill service if you need to make last minute changes. I switched from comfort suites to tru by hilton like 2yrs ago and even though i don't travel as much a i used to, i already get free nights and random perks.
Same happened to me but with a rental car. After years of booking direct, I followed the advice of many and went through a well-known third party vacation booking site. A comparable rental was a steal compared to what I usually paid. I snagged it. Unfortunately, once at the rental car company, they accepted the third party rental.....then proceeded to load up on countless fees and taxes!! Costing me considerably more than I had ever paid before. First and last time using them.
Calling the hotel absolutely does NOT guarantee you your requested room type, especially when the agents see you booked through a third party like Expedia or Orbitz.
I always compare the hotel website to those websites. The websites are always cheaper and l have always gotten the room l paid for.
This is so true. I have even seen hotels and car rentals the exact same. Also, if something goes wrong you have to go through that 3rd party to do anything.
For sure this is great advice. I once got a room on a booking site, then the trip was cancelled and it was HELL trying to get my money back. NEVER DO THAT AGAIN
Since AirBNB got so awful, I've been using booking.com more to travel in Europe, and I always check the accommodation's own website: at best it's the same and sometimes unfortunately far more on the hotel's own site than on booking.com.
right? I wonder if folks, aggressively claiming third parties are always worse, have US in mind maybe? Or perhaps that's all about some high end places? My experience outside Europe is modest, but in here every time I had to book directly in a hotel, got to overpay big time, and when booking online, you naturally check hotel's website to compare, and it might have been one or two times where i opted for original sites, but price difference was minor, and it only came out better directly after creating an account on their website and joining specific loyalty program. All other times, not necessarily booking.com, but third party websites had better deals, occasionally - significantly better. Also, does anyone still call hotels? Like, use their phone? Why? It's time consuming and requires give all necessary information out loud while some other person fills it in?
Load More Replies... There may be exceptions, but generally speaking hotels do not *often* beat the price of wholesalers, by any wildly stretched definition of the word "often".
I read this all the time, but I always check both and never once has the hotel site been cheaper, and I have always gotten the room I booked.
I always compare, sometimes i.e. the booking side looks cheaper but don't jave breakfast included and it is for a fee, when you take this into account it suddenly is not cheaper
Booking with me direct (I have a holiday let in France) will always be cheaper than the websites -- because they charge booking fees, they charge hosting fees etc etc. No booking fee when booking direct, and since I don't have a hosting fee deducted I knock that off as well.
Those third party sites buy the unsold rooms for the day and charge what they want.
This can go both ways. I am staying in two hotels this week, in two countries. Hotel 1 was cheaper when booking directly and I got a voucher for the bar. Hotel 2 added my genius level and a mobile booking discount (I checked, was more expensive on laptop), and I ended up with a nicer room (think private terrace) for 40€/night less than basic room when booking directly.
My wife traveled a lot at her last job. She was a frequent flyer with a couple of US carriers, and an "honors member" of a couple of different US hotel chains. She always got better deals using her miles/points than she'd get if she went through one of the discount sites--largely because the discount sites won't let you redeem your miles/points, they expect you to use cash or card only.
I went to school for hospitality and for an assignment we had to call a hotel and find out their rates for a certain scenario. I asked how much a room was $350/night or some such and said okay, the agent then said okay, okay I can do $99. I was baffled as I knew people that stayed there for $350. From then on, I always call to make reservations and I always get them for a great deal without doing anything. Something about my voice maybe?
If you are set on a SPECIFIC hotel (esp 4-star and higher) Nobody will EVER beat Direct prices. The "deal" is to lure you. Get a FULL quote.Overall, direct has no hidden fees: the quoted price is the binding offer. We experienced this at a very upmarket hotel at a prestigious Casino: NOTHING beats the price calling bookings counter at the hotel itself. The hotel will be upfront with availability and why rates change. Booking companies always have the disclaimer "Subject to availability, E&OE, Additional fees and charges may apply". At reception, after paying for 3 nights, I pushed for a 4th night, after some phone calls, I guarantee you, a tentative online booking, was booted off our room. We paid a small premium extra for our sins. A guest who has already paid, insisting, with cash-in-hand, for another night, is a million times better than a booking, weaving through online 3rd parties..Fact.
This has worked for me on a few occasions where I have been upgraded free or got a cheap deal. The only time that it's worked though, is on the day that you want to stay. The hotel knows that their room is 'perishable' meaning that they can't sell that room for tonight after tonight. Their goal is to sell every room, every night. Even if they give you the room at cost, they can still make money from you with secondary spending - in the bar or room service, for instance. So if you ring up and haggle with them a bit, they usually relent. I've had anything from a 30%-40% reduction in price to a free breakfast. The flip side is that if all the hotels are booked up, you're sleeping in your car. Thankfully, I've never been in that situation.
these 3rd party sites don't guarantee you seats on the plane if buy your plane tickets that way. they're basically stand by tickets, which you can also buy directly from the airline
Not always true. Worked in a hotel in a busy city for four years and the sites were always cheaper than our own rates.
The last time I booked through an aggregate site we pulled up to the hotel and it was now being used as a homeless shelter!
It probably depends on the time of year (season) whether you get a good price on a hotel or not.
These hotel sites used to save you a ton, but they got bought out and now that they're all saved by the same company, and everyone's on to it, I usually do better just calling the hotel directly.
I've called the hotels direct and never gotten as good a deal on as nice a hotel room as I do with Priceline.
I would say this can be true if you're travelling with a large party or with kids as the hotel may be able to book you more efficiently into rooms.
Just join the rewards programs! They’re free, they don’t solicit you hardly ever (I think I’ve gotten maybe 2 advertising emails from Hilton Honors in the 10+ years I’ve been a member), and in the past few years they’ve been doing cash back/rewards that are super helpful, like Amazon cash points! AND they are always cheaper than the 3rd party sites with membership, I’ve even tried it 3rd party and nope membership was much cheaper for a room I got an automatic upgrade on because I was yup, a member!
Totally don't agree with that. Just recently we were looking for a long stay in the same city we live in. Booking pages, in some cases, had at least 30% lower prices than the actuall hotel prices stated in their website or while called. We also had one instance, where there was a mixup with the booking and the place we rented was not prepared at that time. The only thing that saved us in a smaller town with limited places to stay was because we have booked it on the platform and they were able to find us new place in like 20 mins.
Hotel management has some discretion on pricing. Contact the hotel a d you will have a way better experience with no or negligible price difference
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i’m curious, i haven’t really heard of these. what do these third-party booking sites do??
They are just sites where you can find hotels, if you buy through them, then they get money.
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Doing the dishes by hand vs. using a dishwasher. The dishwasher requires a lot less water, time and energy.
Or in my case, doing the dishes by hand vs. not doing them at all (no dishwasher, and no space to install one).
When it comes to tools, buy nice or cry twice.
I saw a popular comment here a couple weeks ago talking about reusing those little handwarmer packet things by slicing them open and adding more magnesium flakes obtained by shaving down sparklers.
For f**k's sake, just buy some new handwarmers.
I knew a fellow who owned one of the most expensive houses in town, but was too cheap to run his swimming pool filter except when he was actually swimming. With virtually no filtration, the water would get thick with debris and algae. He would then by stuff to kill the algae, but then he would have water full of dead algae. And the crud would stiff on the pool bottom, making it very hard to clean off. He spent way more on chemicals than he would have spent on electricity. The owner of this cement pond was a retired rocket scientist.
i have always been told that the smarter a person is, the less common sense… because they’re focused on their whatever
i went to greggs, a well known bakery in the UK. I bought a sandwhich and a drink. as i went to pay, the guy offered me the meal deal. "a sandwhich a drink and crips (chips) for only £1.99. a sandwhich and a drink was £1.59. the sandwhich was £1 and the drink was 59p. by themselves, crisps (chips) were 20p but as part of the meal deal they were 40p. this means that the SPECIAL MEAL DEAL OFFER was more expensive than buying each item individually. CLEVER F*CK***
Heating and air-conditioning. Being uncomfortable, irritable, and unproductive isn't worth the few hundred dollars you save by lowering the heat or not turning on the AC.
Depends. You don't need an industrial central air conditioning system in a tiny bungalow, as my my ex's parents installed. They like to be freezing in the summer. Nor does it have to be sweltering in your home in the winter. And they don't need to be kept on all the time.
In many cases, buying a name-brand product with a coupon is *still* more expensive than buying the store-brand.
Or, buying something just because it's on sale, but not necessarily because you need it.
Mobile phone contracts with a free iPhone etc.
You think you're getting a good deal with a free phone but with 35 pounds a month contact for 2 years, they really screw you.
Buying heavily used cars, sometimes. There are exceptions, but all of my friends who religiously buy the cheapest car they can find are always having trouble. Very expensive trouble, that sometimes adds up to close to the cost of a new car, or at least a better maintained used car.
Believe it or not, some people would like to buy a new car, but can't afford one. Crazy, I know.
Travel and times: A lot of people take the cheapest flight they can find, but to me, saving 50 bucks on a $500 ticket isn't worth a 7am flight or a red eye.
"Buying that rent-to-own laptop Consumer Reports checked out is equivalent to paying 311% interest, which is far worse than the 30% interest rate you see on crummy credit cards.
Buying a big cheap house far from your common destinations.
You will pay with time, petrol, housework, sleep, your relationships, and/or career
Instead:
1.Buy or rent a small house with a 10-30 minute commute.
2. Let happiness ensue.
Home brewing beer.
It's a wonderful hobby and I highly recommend it, but don't think you're going to save money.
My ex like to make apple cider moonshine. He had to buy mason jars and a s**t ton of alcohol, apple juice and whatnot. Thought he was going to make all these underground sales from his friends. Pfft. He sold nothing and I got to keep most of the mason jars. Those come in handy for many things.
Extended warranty
You think you are saving cash on the off chance the product you bought doesn't hold on and you need repairs, but I don't know anybody who has ever been happy about this choice
On the opposite end of the spectrum, car insurance for rental cars. My father and his colleagues used to travel the world and rent cars for several weeks at a time. It would only take one car accident in all those years of renting cars to justify the cost. Many of these rentals were for off-road use. The rookies thought to save cash passing on the insurance and would eventually shell out thousands on repair
Cloth diapers. You still have to buy special (expensive) detergent, and run so many loads in the washing machine. I worked it out when we started cloth diapering 3+ years ago, and it cost the same as if we just did disposable diapers.
Plus all the TIME put into washing/drying/assembling.
I like cloth diapering, I do recommend it, but I hate when it gets lauded as a cheap alternative.
(Edit: Yes, really, you do have to use specially formulated detergent. You don't? That's cool. Your diapers are getting build up of both ammonia and detergent. Good luck with that smell and the leaks, and that is coming from experience.
Also, nowhere did I mention the upfront cost of the diapers themselves. When I talk about price, I'm talking about water and electricity bills.)
people don't do cloth diapers for the nonexistent convenience or the not-so-cheap price. they do it because it's more sustainable & better for the environment, & usually far more comfortable for the baby.
Being cheap with anything you’re going to use a lot or over a long time. Better to spend $180 on a single frying pan that will last 10+ years than buy a $40 frying pan each and every year because they c**p out so easily no matter how careful you are with them. This metaphor, of course, fits the bill for almost any frying pan that is non-stick or costs less that $100 to begin with.
Leasing a car instead of buying one. I'm not gonna get into the specifics but it's pretty much always more costly
Only if you plan on keeping your car for longer that's two/three years. But if you plan on getting a new car every couple of years then paying only the depreciation seems like a better deal. But if you keep your car for 5-10 years... then buying is definitely cheaper. Longer than 10... might start looking at costly repairs.
Justifying the purchase of anything solely because it's a "good deal." I hear this misconception all the time.
If you spend $100 on shoes, even if you bought it at 99% off, you're still out $100. You haven't saved a penny, and that'll be a real problem if you needed that $100 to pay your utility bills.
Edit: clarity and $10,000 shoes.
http://www.luxist.com/2010/02/26/louis-vuitton-offers-10-000-alligator-wingtips/
It's all in the intended budget of what you were planning on spending. If you're expecting to buy $200 shoes and had allowed room in the budget or saved for them, and then the shoes are found to be $100 on sale, then, yes, you saved $100.
Professional home repair services. Real companies have insurance, you can sue if things go wrong. Some handyman that someone knows is likely going to do something that violates a warranty, will be judgement proof, and won't get a permit.
I do construction defect claims and this is partly true. A contractor's work product is not covered by insurance. That's if you hire a guy to install Windows and they are defective, insurance does not cover the replacement of defective windows. Not unless they are installed in such a way they cause damage to other parts of the home. I.e. Leaks and damages the interior drywall
People with flex fuel vehicles buying E85 instead of gasoline. The reduced mileage you get out of E85 eats up any saving you get at the pump.
I know people that skip going to the doctor until the last minute to save the office visit payments. It's a terrible idea since by the time they get there the simple cold turns into pneumonia and costs much more to heal.
bad example. going to the doctor for a cold is a waste of time & money. there's no cure for a cold, nothing the doctor can do other than say "you have a cold." so if someone has a cold, yeah they're gonna wait until it turns into something bad to get help; it would've been a needless expense & it's not like they could've known beforehand that this particular cold would be pneumonia...
Not paying off your mortgage to save the tax breaks...
While it is nice to save taxes, the long term financial benefits are astronomical when you free up a mortgage payment.
Completely stupid assertion because it obviously depends a lot on the situation. If the interest rate is very high and the property value not increasing then yeah, pay it off early if you can. If you have a low rate, if the value is plummeting, if you use the extra money to invest in anything with better returns then no, don’t pay it off early and keep it for as long as you’re in the second situation. Never heard of leverage or gearing?
Dining Plans at college. I literally could go out to eat for every meal for the price of them. And I often did. I saved a ton of money because I don't eat that much/snack more often .
Supermarket specials.
Next time you go shopping, grab a calculator and work out the cost per 100 grams (or whatever equivalent weight) and you'll almost invariably find that the products with the big 'Sale!' signs are not the cheapest.
Of course it's impractical to do this with every item so you can of course estimate, or shop at a store that all ready has the cost per 100 grams of the price tag like I do.
In Germany (or the entire EU?) the store needs to put the price per 100g on each item, so you can easily compare.
Shaving with a straight razor. It's a larger down-payment to start into it (simple but nice razor, strop, and brush cost me about $100), but I recouped that in less than a year just by not buying more cartridges. In theory, a razor will last pretty much forever, for free.
Here's the problem, though. I nicked my blade and had to repair it, so I bought about $80 worth of reworking stuff (much less than I could have spent). Then I bought a fancy 1930's blade and restored it. Then I bought a better brush, and a better stop, and a better shave mug, etc.
I started because it appealed to my practical side. Then it quickly became a ritualistic money hole.
You could also split the difference and buy a double edge razor, where you just need to replace the blades, which are cheap.
A $5 pair of sneakers is not a deal, no matter what your wallet says.
Maybe consider them if you only need shoes for another month...
$5 isn't gonna be great quality, but most $20-30 shoes are just as good as $100-200 shoes. so don't go to the other extreme either. depends what type of shoe & how much use you'll get out of them. i've been wearing a $30 pair of off-brand converse that i actually got for half price at $15. they've lasted five years & counting, & they're my go-to everyday shoes.
Where I work, we do price adjustments on products that have gone on sale since the customer purchased them. Most of the time, the refund isn't worth the amount of time, energy, and gas the customer uses driving to the store.
I can't even imagine making the effort to go get the adjustment. It's on sale now and I bought it last week? Oh well. My bad timing.
Steam sales. You think all these games are a great deal, but you end up playing very few of them and proceed to buy new games you would buy anyways. Remember, you didn't save $7.50, you spent $2.50.
Stopping at Costco for just one thing because its cheaper than the grocery store. Sure I save 3 dollars on the initial item that I went in to get, but the bill at the till always seems to average 400 bucks.
Lol this is dumb. I get that it's easy to spend a fortune at Costco (I love costco) but I regularly go in for a couple things and spend less than $50
Cheap legal services.
A good lawyer that takes 3hrs at $300 an hour will do a much better job far cheaper than a shitty lawyer that takes 5hrs at $200 to do the same job.
This is partly why good lawyers are so expensive - because they're cheaper.
People overinflate the hell out of their tires to get better gas mileage, then have to spend much more to get new tires when they wear out far sooner.
Don't mess with air pressure in tires period. Those numbers are not just a suggestion. It may cost you more than just a new set of tires. Does not matter what your dad's nephew's uncle's hairdresser's dog's ex roommate said, keep your tires properly inflated. Also the air you put in tires is already 78% nitrogen, don't pay for the other 22%. Edit: Sorry for any confusion. I am referring to paying for 100% nitrogen in your tires.
Rewards points. You are paying for them.
Not necessarily true. I’ve had a rewards points credit card for 10 years now, and they haven’t gotten a dime out of me. My card carries absolutely no fees, and no interest because I pay it off every month. I get the convenience of paying by card vs cash, and I receive between $200 - $400 back each year in Amazon gift cards. (I purchase from Amazon anyway, so it’s as good as money in my pocket). If you have the discipline to pay off your credit card every month, you can be the person credit card companies hate.
Restaurant specials. It's rarely cheaper and it's typically food that is about to go bad and needs to be sold instead of thrown out.
But then people complain when food is thrown out, and if it's still good enough to be consumed without much difference then it's all good.
Hybrids. Sure, you save $200-$500 dollars a year on gas costs. But every 5-10 years you will have to replace the battery pack, which can go from anywhere from $2,500 to as much as $6,000, especially on some of the new electric cars with larger packs. Not to mention the initial bump in price you pay with most hybrids. You add a small cost for low rolling resistance tires every time you change them.
Furthermore, the so called point of a hybrid car is saving the environment. The materials used in hybrid cars, specifically the batteries and other components that require rare earth elements, not only require more energy, but put out more harmful types of chemicals than traditional processes. The story gets worse if you go with a plug in hybrid, as 60% of wall power comes from coal plants, a less cleaning fuel than gasoline.
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Sounds like a wealthy person that has no idea what it's like to be poor. I disagreed with most of the examples they gave.
Agree. I’d like to see the math behind some of these claims.
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We also need to consider how saving money is much easier when you already have some. Yes, good-quality products are costly and save you more money in the long run. But if someone is poor, they can't afford to buy the more efficient product. And they have to buy the cheap, low quality one, changing it often and being forced to waste money. Financial wisdom is useless if you don't have the money to apply it
Have you read Terry Pratchett? Look up Vimes’ boots theory of economics
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Several of these rely on the assumption that poor people can just - for example - spend 100 dollars once a year instead of 20 dollars every month. But always remember Captain Samuel Vimes "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness: A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
One thing I read that makes a lot of sense is that if you can afford a quality pair or jeans (example) that fit well and you know you’ll wear them often, the math can pencil it out for less cost per wear than something that doesn’t fit well you don’t enjoy wearing. I wear my Birkenstocks almost daily until they are literally falling to pieces ever 3-5 years so I feel ok splurging on a new pair when I need one. This only works if you do t get the poorly fitting ones too.
If your winters are extreme, please invest in good, good coat and boots, if possible.
Buy a good bed...not a cheap one. You will spend at least a third of your life in it, after all. It may take awhile to save up the money, but it will be worth it.
I had a much younger roommate awhile back, and I remember him explaining to me that he would rather drive to his dads house to fill up his tires for free than do it at a gas station for a couple dollars. I pointed out that his dad lives 20 miles away, so he'd be spending 40 miles of gas money to save that couple dollars...but his expression stayed blank...
Didn't see Black Friday mentioned. I mean, there are definitely deals but very often there are also "deals" that, if one kept an eye open throughout the year, are not actually new or even a deal. Another one is those "going out of business sales", where everything gets discounted... Except, it's often over the initial suggested price. I've seen things being sold at prices higher than they were at a competitor that was still in business, yet people thought they actually got a deal out of it. Guess I should say: look around, don't blindly buy based on that one discount.
"High interest savings account" Banks in my area pay One Cent per One thousand $$ per month
People who have the money to buy a gas heating system in their home, but choose to remain on firewood heating because "the gas central is very expensive, wood is cheaper". However, on the long term, wood is usually more expensive
Wood burning is also catastrophic for air quality, both inside and outside the home.
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Dr Phil, before he got Jerry Springerish and I quit watching him, did a show on tightwads who were costing themselves more in man hours, if not actual money, by doing such things as going from one fast food place to another, stealing packets of mustard and catsup and squeezing them into an old store bought bottle. It would take him two hours to gather the packs and fill one bottle. At $5 and hour which was minimum wage at the time, he was expending $10 to save $2.50.
Susie that's true, but some people have more time than they know what to do with. Maybe they don't care about minimum wage.
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How about supermarkets that add barbecue rubs to meet. Don't buy it, that meats going bad!!!!
For the first time EVER I have a dishwasher and I have only used it 3xs I used to say if I had one I'd never wash them again- so much for that one lol
Poor people know that being poor is expensive. We need things now but can't afford a good one so we get what we can. And the result is endlessly replacing crappy stuff and never getting to have nice things. Look up the Vimes boots theory of economic inequality.
People, for the most part, these are general examples, not specific to your particular situation, and yes, subject to some caveats, but most of the replies start "not always". No, not always. And, yes, it's also true that sometimes you don't have the money for the better stuff, no matter how much is saves in the long run. I still wouldn't throw out a lot of these suggestions.
Check youtube for extreme cheapskates (especially look for title: cooks lasagna in the dishwasher)
I encourage you all to join me for “NO BUY JULY”!! For just one month, don’t buy ANYTHING but essentials (food and gas, etc) Borrow big items, clothes for special occasions, etc from friends: If you absolutely need something, buy it second hand, or with old gift cards (I save mine up for lean months). Cook at home, and forgo the delivery services. Many low Income households live this way, and it’s pretty eye opening to see how much you don’t really need.
I encourage *you* to join me for 'stop telling other people how you think they should live summer*! Simply stop 'inviting' people to 'join you' for various things to change how they live. It's pretty eye opening to see how much advice you don't really need.
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Sounds like a wealthy person that has no idea what it's like to be poor. I disagreed with most of the examples they gave.
Agree. I’d like to see the math behind some of these claims.
Load More Replies... We also need to consider how saving money is much easier when you already have some. Yes, good-quality products are costly and save you more money in the long run. But if someone is poor, they can't afford to buy the more efficient product. And they have to buy the cheap, low quality one, changing it often and being forced to waste money. Financial wisdom is useless if you don't have the money to apply it
Have you read Terry Pratchett? Look up Vimes’ boots theory of economics
Load More Replies... Several of these rely on the assumption that poor people can just - for example - spend 100 dollars once a year instead of 20 dollars every month. But always remember Captain Samuel Vimes "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness: A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
One thing I read that makes a lot of sense is that if you can afford a quality pair or jeans (example) that fit well and you know you’ll wear them often, the math can pencil it out for less cost per wear than something that doesn’t fit well you don’t enjoy wearing. I wear my Birkenstocks almost daily until they are literally falling to pieces ever 3-5 years so I feel ok splurging on a new pair when I need one. This only works if you do t get the poorly fitting ones too.
If your winters are extreme, please invest in good, good coat and boots, if possible.
Buy a good bed...not a cheap one. You will spend at least a third of your life in it, after all. It may take awhile to save up the money, but it will be worth it.
I had a much younger roommate awhile back, and I remember him explaining to me that he would rather drive to his dads house to fill up his tires for free than do it at a gas station for a couple dollars. I pointed out that his dad lives 20 miles away, so he'd be spending 40 miles of gas money to save that couple dollars...but his expression stayed blank...
Didn't see Black Friday mentioned. I mean, there are definitely deals but very often there are also "deals" that, if one kept an eye open throughout the year, are not actually new or even a deal. Another one is those "going out of business sales", where everything gets discounted... Except, it's often over the initial suggested price. I've seen things being sold at prices higher than they were at a competitor that was still in business, yet people thought they actually got a deal out of it. Guess I should say: look around, don't blindly buy based on that one discount.
"High interest savings account" Banks in my area pay One Cent per One thousand $$ per month
People who have the money to buy a gas heating system in their home, but choose to remain on firewood heating because "the gas central is very expensive, wood is cheaper". However, on the long term, wood is usually more expensive
Wood burning is also catastrophic for air quality, both inside and outside the home.
Load More Replies... Dr Phil, before he got Jerry Springerish and I quit watching him, did a show on tightwads who were costing themselves more in man hours, if not actual money, by doing such things as going from one fast food place to another, stealing packets of mustard and catsup and squeezing them into an old store bought bottle. It would take him two hours to gather the packs and fill one bottle. At $5 and hour which was minimum wage at the time, he was expending $10 to save $2.50.
Susie that's true, but some people have more time than they know what to do with. Maybe they don't care about minimum wage.
Load More Replies... How about supermarkets that add barbecue rubs to meet. Don't buy it, that meats going bad!!!!
For the first time EVER I have a dishwasher and I have only used it 3xs I used to say if I had one I'd never wash them again- so much for that one lol
Poor people know that being poor is expensive. We need things now but can't afford a good one so we get what we can. And the result is endlessly replacing crappy stuff and never getting to have nice things. Look up the Vimes boots theory of economic inequality.
People, for the most part, these are general examples, not specific to your particular situation, and yes, subject to some caveats, but most of the replies start "not always". No, not always. And, yes, it's also true that sometimes you don't have the money for the better stuff, no matter how much is saves in the long run. I still wouldn't throw out a lot of these suggestions.
Check youtube for extreme cheapskates (especially look for title: cooks lasagna in the dishwasher)
I encourage you all to join me for “NO BUY JULY”!! For just one month, don’t buy ANYTHING but essentials (food and gas, etc) Borrow big items, clothes for special occasions, etc from friends: If you absolutely need something, buy it second hand, or with old gift cards (I save mine up for lean months). Cook at home, and forgo the delivery services. Many low Income households live this way, and it’s pretty eye opening to see how much you don’t really need.
I encourage *you* to join me for 'stop telling other people how you think they should live summer*! Simply stop 'inviting' people to 'join you' for various things to change how they live. It's pretty eye opening to see how much advice you don't really need.
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