The sad thing about being a woman is that you inherently get exposed to some mistreatment, which is beyond unfair. Yes, we're talking about misogyny today.
To be more specific, today we're going to put a spotlight on women who've shared their experiences of misogyny in the wild. Be warned, the stories are quite upsetting and enraging, especially if you can relate to them. Still, they must be talked about, so jump in!
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This has been true forever!
40 years ago my brakes suddenly go out. Scary!
The first place I can roll into tell me I have to replace my master cylinder for $350 and I have pretty good 6th sense and even without knowing anything about cars, I knew it was B.S., I say "thanks, gonna get another opinion" and they are like Nnnnooo you can't drive your car! And I'm like: watch me. I drove like 10mph to the next service station. They look at it and say "oh, your brake fluid is contaminated, we'll drain and replace it" cost? $10.
I hate people who take advantage of others.
It's amazing how much work your car needs when the mechanic has a boat payment coming up.
Again, write them up online, call their bosses, and warn others against them.
I was quoted $300 for a car repair. Mechanic quoted me, 2 family members that were mechanics stated the same. Watched a YouTube video and bought the part for $26. The end of the video mentions making sure to restart your computer systems. I did that first and the issue was fixed. Returned the part. Cost=$0
No, sorry, it IS misogamy. There are honest mechanics and dishonest mechanics. And some of those honest mechanics are also still misogamists. I'd bet 99 percent of the dishonest mechanics are certainly misogamists. They're probably racists, homophobes, and just generally all around a******s, too. I suppose you could envision a dishonest mechanic who was not a misogamist, but that's probably along the line of assuming a spherical cow of uniform density.
See I’ve never had that lol ,cos I take no shite , oh n I likely know more about cars then they do 😂my father was a mechanic, n worked in cars in his spare time , I only saw him off a weekend , as I lived with my grandparent's ,from 8 mth old , so I’d be in the garage either him helping lol so if I ever took a car in for stuff ,rarely cos I’d usually fixed it myself mind ,but if I had to I’d tell the, what needed doing n to do only that end off ,cos I know how they rip us females off,
was the next service station 100% women run? if not, this has nothing to do with misogyny, and everything to do with one shop being scammy and the other not.
Is it safe to presume you are a man John? I'm just hoping your comment is based on the fact that you have been insulated by the experiences others are mentioning. Maybe bc you're a man? Maybe bc you know a few honest shops?
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My husband and I are big baseball fans, especially of our local minor league team, and I'm much more involved than he is. I generally know more about the game and our team's players than he does.
When he talks baseball, no one questions him, and they give him grace if he mixes something up or just don't know something.
When I talk baseball, I get quizzed on my knowledge left and right! I have to "prove" that I'm genuinely a fan. A lot of men assume I'm only pretending to like baseball to make myself more appealing to them or to make my husband happy. God forbid a girl have a passion for a sport she played with her dad and grandpa.
It took my father like 25 years before he finally realised I'm just as much of a footie fan as he is. He spent a good chunk of my childhood trying to get my brothers into football while being totally oblivious to the fact that one of his daughters could kick a football with the precision of Harry Kane. It was very frustrating.
We were in the market for a minivan. I did all the research, found the van and we head to the dealership. It is me, my husband, and our two youngest in a double stroller. While I am working out the deal with the finance guy, my husband was strolling around the lot with the kids to keep them entertained. First time the finance guy comes out he gives me a number, I tell him no, I came in here with this number and it is what I can afford. He says "Did you want to check with your husband?" No actually, he has no idea about any of this... I've worked in lending for over 20 years.
Second time he comes out with another payment quote, says the same thing. Goes back, and finally comes back with the payment I was comfortable with. Again he says "Do you want to ask your husband?" Bro, if I wanted his opinion he would be in here with me. I told him that if he asked me that one more time I was walking.
Always be willing to walk away, OP. Buy from another lot where they treat you with dignity. Make sure the lot with the s****y salesman is informed of the reason they lost your business forever. If the blow is directed toward their wallet, they’ll listen and hopefully make changes. I don’t understand why they thinks it’s good business to ignore 51% of the population who are in the market to buy a car anyway. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. My money is just as green as a man’s, and if you disrespect me, then you’re not getting any of it but your competition, who treats me properly, will, and will not only get my repeat business too, but my word of mouth advertising and recommendations to friends to buy from them instead of the disrespectful place down the street.
Been here, done that. Mom was looking to buy a replacement car. Having brought the current one to be appraised as trade in, with it in her name, they see the 40-something me and the 60-something her and they start talking to me. I tell them "hey, I don't even have a licence, it's her car". So they ask her some rather patronising questions about how much shopping is likely to go in the boot and then they start talking to me again. I say "thank you for your time and thank you for wasting ours" and at that point simply leave. If the guy can't understand a simple directive that goes against his innate prejudices, then he's not somebody to trust and do business with.
My mom is and has always been the one to buy cars in my family. She approaches it like a blood sport. It’s a sight to behold.
OP might have asked the finance guy "Aren't you going to ask your wife what she thinks about this quote?"
As Tabitha says, always be prepared to walk. But also time how fast they can suddenly give you a discount when you start walking. No homie, you should have started there.
We don’t want to sound like those folks who are obsessed with the Joker, saying, “We live in a society,” but there’s no better way to start today’s conversation than by stating this fact, no matter how cliche it sounds. After all, we do, in fact, live in society.
Naturally, this society comes with a lot of its problems, or, in other words, things that in one way or another have negative consequences for large numbers of people. And, oh boy, there are so many of them, if you look closely.
Man, I get so mad when I’m given car repair quotes. At my last appointment, they suggested a maintenance service that was like $300+. I decided to call around to another place (another dealership even, just a town over) and get a quote for it and it was half the cost. 😭 Yeah it sucks to pay more, but it also just feels so incredibly disrespectful for someone to try to take advantage of you like this.
Mechanics are bad for this. They think the "little lady" doesn't know a battery from the windshield wiper fluid.
Most places are corrupt and look for any way to upcharge. An infamous story is putting a coke bottle in the fender or zip tying a harmonica to rhe frame just to bring it in and charge hundreds for nothing. Dont trust the guys that drive up to you on the highway either
Load More Replies...Don't like to admit it, but I always take a man. I know quite a few women who know their way around a car, but that usually leads to mansplaining and frustration. I could bring Jason my strictly bicycle hairstylist friend who doesn't even know that tires should be rotated, and dude will look him straight in the eye to say "You know what I'm talking about. "
I found the best garage after going for a second opinion. Garage 1 told me I needed to replace several very costly parts of the engine - the guy at garage 2 actually let me watch as he did his check, explained everything, and even laughed out loud at garage 1’s suggestion. Saved me several hundred euros - I love that guy.
An ex once challenged me to replace a starter motor on my older car. I did it without any input from him and with no mistakes. Don't tell me I can't do something, because that will guarantee I WILL do it.
Only a few entries in and the vehicle sales and maintenance sector is not covering itself in glory.
On the other hand, i left my car at my cousins for three weeks while we travelled. I went to drive home and ond wheel bearing was loud. I had to take it to the mechanics three times before they would actually change it. I appreciate they didn't want to do unnessesary work, but I also value my time.
They do this to men too. Auto dealer mechanic tried to talk my son into $4000 in repairs. Independent mechanic said most of the repairs weren't needed yet and it only needed about $500 of maintenance and repairs. Technical trades have always taken advantage of people. One of the first written records is a cuneiform tablet complaining about poor workmanship by a house contractor. Regardless of gender, you need to shop around.
I don’t know if I am allowed to comment for my fiancée but we just bought a house. We were not expecting her to have so much trouble being taken seriously by people who work on the house. She works from home so she deals with them most of the time. But numerous times have pest control guys, yard guys, etc. dismiss her concerns as being dramatic and give her the “nothing we can do” until I call.
One guy even told her that the bug problem was because she didn’t keep a clean house which I was shocked.
If you can find them, hire female tradespeople. Generally speaking they are having to work better and more honestly than the men in order to create a name for themselves within a still masculine industry.
Truth. I had friend (sadly, gone.) Who opened a handyman service. He needed help, I needed work. We shared a name, so it was catchy. On my second job, a woman answered the door. All instructions and questions were turned to me. He was the one with expertise. Just the look of relief in her eyes to see a woman at the job site...Other Lee had a serious revelation about gender roles on the ride back :)
Load More Replies...Call their bosses, and write them up online everywhere you can think of. And warn other female householders against using them. Hit them where it hurts, in the pocketbook. And yes, definitely try to find female tradespeople.
Sigh... You are assuming a lot about the bosses answering these calls. I appreciate where you're going w your comment though. There is a commercial for a woman owned contractor business where I live and her slogan is something like next time someone asks you do you know a guy, no but I no a girl! Pretty clever. As a woman who has done a lot of work in the trades, absolutely refreshing!
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Men, only men, ignore me when I speak. And they say they're just distracted or whatever, focusing on something else. But when I speak I don't have their attention. They forget what I say too. This does not happen when they speak to men.
I've gotten bold in recent years: If a woman is speaking and man starts to speak over her, I'll straight up get attention to call the conversation to a halt. The "She was saying...?" Works everytime. (I have a group of friends that get together for debates at the pub pretty regularly. Not a pretentious monster.)
The majority of my bosses over the years have been women, I have had to listen to them. This was probably a good thing otherwise I may have gone down the man talking woman quiet route.
Practice voice coaching to reduce the pitch of your voice and increase the volume level
From poverty and homelessness to a lack of education, and access to healthcare – there’s a whole plethora of them. Sadly, we cannot discuss each of them at one time – it would take way too much time. So, let us focus on only one today – misogyny.
In brief, this term refers to a system that upholds gender-based oppression against women and girls. Basically, it’s a bias against women, which punishes anyone who challenges it in any way. And that punishment usually manifests through discrimination.
My partner’s boss won’t let him wfh while our baby is home because “men can’t multitask” 🙄
Implicitly low expectations of men means higher expectations of women, which means we have to do more.
So men being discriminated against for being men isn't discrimination against men for being men, but rather discrimination by men against women?
I think it's more like that this kind of discrimination is a side of the same coin. Thinking a man is not able to work and taking care of a baby at the same time stem from the conviction that men have a harder time doing a "woman job" (child rearing) on top of their normal job. It's sexist, but sexism hurt both gender not just women, trapping people in doing only what it's deemed right for the gender they belong to
Load More Replies...Men can’t multitask lmao it’s well known ,and proven , I can multitask like a pro ,in fact I’m better when I have a million n one things to do at once ,
This is terrible, but on a side note NOBODY should be WFH while taking care of a baby, not unless you're very carefully tracking when you step away from work, plus an extra 10 minutes for EACH distraction, and then making up all the time missed later.
Um.. you and everyone else here switches off between working and being on bored panda. Are you carefully tracking this to make sure you make up for every second away? Do you time pee breaks? Water consumption?
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My family doctor not taking me seriously. I was struggling with severe pain, fatigue, anxiety and insomnia. I was so desperate that I asked him if I could get a prescription for sleeping. He declined and gave me an entire speech about how addictive it is and that maybe I should try some mindfulness or whatever and that pain is normal during period and that can impact sleep in such. That's part of womanhood. Then my husband went to visit him a couple of days later. He got a prescription, no speech or warnings. No questions.
I went to my ex-doctor about my anxiety and panic disorder, he told me I should go to church and explore faith...my new doctor gave me my lexapro back
You should have made a complaint about your ex-doctor.
Load More Replies...I did almost die in March from it, I’m still dealing with it now as it has emotionally hurt me so bad. I honestly assumed that because in 07 I got set on fire with petrol etc that if I was genuinely dying they would take me serious too, but nope, almost died and somehow made I through the night and I still don’t know how. It hurt so much everything that happened with that mean Dr man. I kept saying I had back pain and hadn’t been able to walk for two weeks (ambo brought me in) so he ignored me - almost died from kidney failure, even had other patients husbands telling me to go home cos back pain wasn’t something you come to ER with etc
Load More Replies...My mother went to the doctor for menopause issues and was told it was normal and she just had to live with it. A few weeks later my dad saw the same doc. Casually mentioned how much trouble menopause was giving mom. He walked out of the office with a prescription for her.
Laundry list of bad medical experiences, but the latest may take the cake. I've got some weird gastro issues due to a botched surgery. One of the side effects is gas. Not smelly, but sounds like a moose ate week old tuna casserole. The more important side effect is I h had extreme difficulty swelling anything thicker than apple juice. This guy showed me fart videos, said I could make a ton of money, and asked if I Really wanted an endoscopy. Bro, yes. I can't eat.He says okay, then forgets to schedule it. I sort this ßhit out on my own. Show up for the procedure at an all female practice was amazing. I got grilled on my history, treated with respect, had a secondary procedure which they were astounded hadn't been recommended years ago, and given thorough information about how to move forward. Fart jokes vs. Real care.
Yup, first female doctor I had grilled me because "she did not understand why my kidneys were failing and we were going to figure this out." We figured it out in one visit, whereas male doctors couldn't be arsed for 2.5 years.
Load More Replies...My mother's first words to her new doctor: I'm a nurse, I spent far too much of my working life in the geriatric unit, and I did extra med training on the side because I enjoyed it but didn't want to go as far as becoming a doctor myself because I liked my job. DO NOT BULLSH!T ME and do NOT prescribe unnecessary medications. He tried recommending Xanax for something and she immediately called him on it, referring to it as benzodiazepine just to make the point. He smiled and after that treated her fairly. [I didn't train, but worked in nursing homes, and you pick up a thing or two when your mother is telling the flamin' RNs how to do their job!]
My own experiences in being ignored or told off is why now I will only be seen and treated by women medical workers; even my dentist
My doctor does the same thing to me and my husband. What a misogynistic arsè!
Over due for a new Dr dear. Don't tolerate that. Drs aren't gods. They are people and should be treated accordingly.
Load More Replies...Just for chuckles, say you will get a second opinion and if its endometriosis, you will sue. I went to a new practice, explained my little body quirks and left only to have my pharmacy of choice phone that I had a Rx ready. I had no idea. Asked what it was and refused it. It was something I already took OTC yet I got FOUR MORE PHONE CALLS about taking it, two from HQ in another state. And it was "only" a vitamin supplement but no one had even mentioned it. I checked Mayo Clinic on line, hand ONE symptom (stress - I don't trust doctors and hate women). I started, on my own, meditating, and issue has improved. I will quit if I have to.
I was a director in a tech field. One of the supervisors (male) who worked for me had set an appointment to interview a potential worker (male), but wasn’t back to the office yet. The guy there for the interview asked if I was the supervisor’s secretary. That kind of thing happened all the time.
"Actually I'm his supervisor - how do you think this interview is going to go?"
The most frequent popular expressions of misogyny are things like catcalling, favoring men over women, showing no respect for women’s time and effort, ignoring them, blaming them for conflicts, and things like that. These are the easiest to pinpoint because of how on the nose they are.
That’s why today, we decided to make this educational list of misogyny instances. Since all of these are experiences various women have lived through and went on to tell online, they might be easier to understand than simple theoretical examples.
When I was younger and lived with my parents my dad would constantly talk over me and demean my opinions and feelings, and over time I just stopped trying to make my opinions known. I wasn't conscious of it however until I moved away and married a man who is a respectful conversationalist and I stopped silencing myself. Then we visited for Christmas and I couldn't get a word in edgewise when Dad was in the room, even with my husband trying to give me space to talk. Now that I was conscious of what was happening I was furious. It was as clear as day that my dad was more ready to listen to my husband than he was to me.
The last visit I had with my dying mom, we all decided to have an guitar/singing session like we did when we were young. My friend got up to go to the bathroom and my dad told my mom to shut up because he couldn't hear himself playing and singing. I saw her heart break, and I've never been so more angry. I knew he was a jerk, but it really opened my eyes to how much she put up with her whole life. She deserved someone better.
I'd be tempted to just walk off and when asked say "you guys weren't listening anyway".
Yup my father sorry s***m doner ,as killed my mother when I was 8 mths old and blamed me all my life. Always did this to me belittled me talked over me , told me I was useless etc ,it took till I was 46 having giving him one last chance ,before I had spoken to him since I was 16 ,then tried at 18 ,to tell him to p I s s off out my house n stay the f away from me n my kids , never saw him again ! The week after that I found out the truth about my mum ,it had been his fault , he’s dead now rotting in purgatory I hope ,
Being told to smile more. I didn’t even realize how often it happened until I started noticing how rarely men hear that.
My dad did this a lot even when I wasn't mad just content...so now I do it to him :)
I am having SUCH a day. This whole list is hitting very "close to home". I have had three conversations in the last 48hrs about this specifically. Has a man ever been called sweetheart or babygirl by someone begging for change outside a store? I have! After politely telling someone I don't have anything to spare, I'm called a b***h....
"I smile a lot, so you must be too far away to see. I wonder if there's a connection?"
When we bought our house I put myself as the primary borrower in all the documents since I was the one on top of filling everything out/gathering documents yet in our mortgage account my husband is listed as the primary.
My wife bought a car. All the mail from the dealership comes to me.
Same. Wife just bought a new Buick as she has 800 and something credit, I just signed as secondary. EVERYTHING comes to me, my phone text, postal mail. Literally everything.
Load More Replies...Ugh. Our joint bank account! I deposited the money, I signed everything as the primary, chose the passwords, did everything in the bank personally. Got locked out of the online banking, called and was told that it was the primary online banking account, for my husband, I'd need to request a secondary for myself.
That's when you don't sign. Source: co-signed and auto loan for an idiot. I got all the late notices, collectors, and insurance calls because I was first on the loan. . Ended up paying it off after it was reported stolen and insurance considered it fraud. (Gotta say they were probably right.)
When I went to MY BANK to get a loan to buy my first car, they said I needed my hubby to co-sign. I refused so they GAVE ME A CREDIT CARD and I charged the car on it. It was a looooooong time ago.
But why does misogyny even happen in the first place? Well, it all comes down to the fact that it’s an attitude that develops due to life experiences, upbringing, and social and cultural influences.
For example, if a person constantly observes such misogynistic behavior during their younger years, and their parents, guardians, or other role models hold such beliefs, it’s rather believable that they might develop the same thoughts.
Oh, I noticed it, and it pissed me off.
My dad was getting my grandparents’ house ready to sell after their deaths, and he chose a local property manager that has no business acting as a realtor. I said, “you need to paint.” My dad said, “we’ll see what Guy thinks.” Guy asked, “paint where?” I point out the line of dirt that all walls get when they’ve had appliances or furniture pressed up against them for 60 years. Guy said, “I don’t think you need to paint. It looks fine.” Dad said, “Great. No paint.” Fast forward a few weeks, Guy says, “You need to paint; I have a contractor you can use.” Dad says, “You’re right. We need to paint,” and hires the contractor!
But wait, it gets better:
The painter sucked. Missed spots. Cut corners. Single coat when there should have been two. Meanwhile, I’m prepping and painting the house I’m about to move into. Dad hired the painter to help move stuff out of his storage unit and into my house for me to use. The painter took one look at my walls and said, “You did better than me!” I said, “oh thanks!” I thought, ‘no s**t.’ But you know, what do I know about painting and prepping a house for sale?
Really sad/enraging/fill in the blank when it's your own dad doing it
Recently, I've been thinking about the term "working mom". Forget the fact that all moms, in fact, are working because taking care of a newborn/toddler/child/teen alone is a huge task, apart from household chores.
How come I've never heard of a working dad? Does being a dad mean lesser work than being a mom? Why?
The only term that comes to mind indicating a man taking on majority/all of the childcare is "single dad" or "present father". On the flip side, a "present mother" is just a mother. Do dads in relationship not normally care for their children?
A lot of my gendermates don't care and then shout "parental alienation" as soon as they can use it against their former partner.
The amount of men who whine they're being kept from their kids then suddenly can't make it when they're asked to take them is astounding. It's like they don't think we can see them
Load More Replies...From what I see around me, they don't really care. (my experience and my friend's only of course)
I've never heard of a woman looking after her own children as 'babysitting'. Even in this day and age men simply dont do as much as women. If a man was holding down a full time job as well as doing the lion's share of childcare and housework and looking after elderly parents we'd think he was remarkable. Look how many women do this as a matter of course and are still treated as 2nd class citizens.
Load More Replies...Just the other day, I heard someone refer to a farm wife as "a stay-at-home mom". My grandmother was a farm wife, and let me tell you: when she was well past 80, she could still outwork anyone else in our whole large, extended family. She raised six kids, grew a large veg garden, canned a whole cellar-full of fruit, tended a flock of chickens, cooked and did great piles of laundry for her family and a rotating crew of hired hands (she didn't like automatic washers or dryers, clung to her twin-tub wringer machine and her clothes line). She baked her own bread, didn't need recipes for most of what she cooked and baked, and even made her own butter (they had a dairy herd). And that's not even counting all the church work she did. Nobody ever left her home hungry.
Men are genuinely only friendly towards me if they want to have s*x with me. They can be nice and kind without wanting s*x, but when they are friendly, I have learned it comes with expectations.
Even men in relationships. I can tell like a bloodhound which men would cheat on their partners.
*not gay men*.
But don't forget, if you are even the slightest bit pleasant or friendly with them, some will inevitably think that you definitely are coming on to them. Then get pissy when their advances are rejected.
What exactly is the dividing line between "nice and kind" and "friendly"?
"friendly" men do a lot of "s3x jokes" and compliments and become rude once they understand we're not interested, and "nice and kind" men just treat you like they would treat anybody. (it's more complicated than that but we often just trust our instinct)
Load More Replies...One of the benefits of not being conventionally attractive is that this doesn't happen to me.
But I'm guessing the opposite happens, i.e. him not bothering to be nice or pleasant because you've been deemed not f***able.
Load More Replies...The moment you tell a guy who is annoying you, that you`re taken, they start screaming at you and calling you names.
There is even research showing that childhood exposure to domestic violence can form feelings of sexism and misogyny. Some cultural factors can play a part too. Some religions and cultures uphold attitudes suggesting that women are inferior, sinful, and should be submissive, which can all lead to their mistreatment.
Thus, we should all seek to call out any misogynistic behavior whenever we have a chance. After all, sweeping things under the rug never solves the problem, does it?
Have you ever experienced misogyny yourself? If you feel comfortable, please share your stories, and let’s fight this problem by addressing it, shall we?
SO is praised more for doing less than me when it comes to our child.
The double standards in parenting are WILD. If a mom bring pizza she's lazy, a dad who does it is "fun" and "cool". A mom that bring her kid to school is a regular mom, a dad who does it is "a great dad". A mom who work is "abandoning her kids", a dad who does it is "supporting his family".
A single mother is irresponsible for getting herself and her kids into that situation. A single dad is this amazing guy (and sadly also a creep according to some so it does go both ways).
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It’s pretty benign but my partner and I support the same football team; I have been a fan since I was 4 (photo evidence and everything). The amount of times I’ve head something along the lines of “couldn’t have your own opinion/ such a ‘pick me’/only support them because of your boyfriend” is really really grating.
Apparently it’s inconceivable that I, a very feminine presenting woman, could possibly enjoy football, and support the same team throughout my life without the influence of a fella.
What exactly is this comment trying to state, I wonder?
Load More Replies...Being expected to move out of the way when I'm walking towards a man on the street. Covid was the first time I wasn't ducking and diving around the pavement.
Yeah I also stopped moving and it's kinda crazy how they just walk right into you. They see you from afar, lock eyes with you, keep walking, bump into you and have the audacity of looking shocked that I didn't move away.
Pointedly look away and keep walking straight - they will move. It's what I do and I've found it definitely works.
Load More Replies...Me, woman, alone, in line to pay my groceries. There was a father daughter in front of me with the same amount of things, more or less, and a woman with a teenager behind me with just as much groceries. A guy comes with 5 cans of energy drinks. I noticed and I was going to let him pass in front of me... once I was closer to the cashier. But then I noticed that he was forcing himself so that I let him go, walking around, entering my line of vision. I noticed this and turned my head every time. There was someone in front of me. If he was in a hurry, he could have asked them, or he could have asked the woman with the teenager behind me. No. He reminded me of a predator, prowling, Then he starts mumbling, insulting me I suppose. Why? He had to other options, better options even. Why me? Because I was a woman alone.
I've stopped moving for people. Some teens tried it on last week, yeah - sorry you got knocked sideways. And am thoroughly enjoying knocking phones out of people's hands - should have been looking up in a crowded station.
Huh, I'm always deferential when out and about. But that's how I was taught.
I wanted to buy a car. I did the test drive, filled out the paperwork, organised the loan under my name. My husband was there on the last day when we took the car home and was listed as a second driver on my insurance. Turns out the dealership put the car entirely under his name.
The times we have bought a car I have been the one with the Kelley Blue Book, and I have been the one who haggled with the salesperson. Or tried to, if they were a man. The worst ones get this pained expression on their faces and turn to my husband looking for him to step in. He doesn’t, because he knows I’m the better negotiator, and I always get better deals. If it was left up to him, we would always pay too much for everything, because he’d take the first—-and way too high—-price the salesman offered. He is not the natural—-and aggressive—-haggler I am. I stay cool, and am always willing to walk away or stop talking and let the salesman talk himself into a corner. I also strategize and pick the reasonable price I’m willing to settle at long before getting to the lot. The only salesperson who talked to me as the principle negotiator, once they saw that dynamic, was a woman, and an older woman at that, so you can imagine the absolute puerile horses**t she had to put up with from salesMEN when she started out selling cars back in the day, as that used to be a completely male-dominated field. I liked that she spoke to and negotiated with me, so we bought cars from her for years until she retired.
I usually go to buy a car on my own. I get a reapproved loan online through my own financing, go to the dealer and give them the paperwork and get my car. In and out in an hour.
The rarity of baby changing stations in men’s washrooms while they are in nearly EVERY women’s washroom.
I have noticed that some airports have separate baby changing rooms, maybe this will catch on elsewhere.
Tell me about it. My wife was disabled, so I had to take the babies to be changed, and most times couldn't get to it. It's really annoying!
and it’s OK for mothers to take their male babies and toddlers into the women’s room, but WTF are fathers, especially single dads who don’t have a female partner or friend to help them, supposed to do? Yes. Take them into the men’s room, but there are connotations of that which, in the opinion of certain sections of society, aren’t good. But what the hell is he supposed to do? No one seems to offer any alternatives, like separate UNgendered baby changing rooms with sinks but not toilet facilities, or maybe just one toilet if the parent has to go but can’t take their baby into the bathroom.
I was in Walmart one time. (Don't judge; I'm poor.) I came out of the ladies to see a dad and his 6-7yo daughter looking hesitant. Of course, I immediately grasped the problem. I said, "There's no one in the ladies, so take her in there. I'll stand here in case another woman shows up." He looked so grateful and thanked me profusely. I told him it's not a good idea to take her into the men's room, for obvious reasons, and you really should let her go into the ladies by herself. But for future reference, there's a family rest room at the front of the store.
Load More Replies...I know one of the founders of Old Country Buffet. All of the men’s washrooms had baby changing stations.
That was the one thing I (male) was never able to share in the household : change diapers. I could simply not do it without gagging over a loaded diaper, wife did not blink an eye. And no, it was not weaponized incompetence.
What would you have done if (God forbid) your wife had died and you were the only one left caring for the baby?
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When I worked a corporate job I was given a name badge for a conference that said “assistant” I was a product manager.. I also was asked many times if I was my boss’s assistant when I managed my own portfolio of projects worth 500 million a year 😭.
Sounds like Al Murray the comedian where he does his but asking women in the crowd what job they do. Then dismisses whatever job it is as nurse or secretary.
I was applying for a job, went to the interview and they offered me the position. Manager asked me if I needed to check with my husband before I took the job?
I used to say "I'm just doing my job. If you don't like it, here is his phone #."
Not going to say who
But earlier in my teen years i said i wanted to be sterilized without kids and the person i was talking to about it said
“99% of doctors will refuse you because you dont have kids” i know what they were hinting at because of my “future husband sake”.
Never wanted children. Could not find a doctor who would sterilize me; like a 30 year old cannot possibly know what she wants in life. Had two kids before that last doctor finally ""allowed" it. Why don't we start a movement to regulate men's bodies the same way they control women's? yeah, right...male privilege over women's autonomy.
Doctors can be a******s. I talked to the doc about a tubal ligation after 3 kids. His take: " You're too young/don't know your own mind." Three kids, and I know. "What if husband wants more?" Well, *I* don't I get a bigger share of the vote or a divorce. "What if your husband dies, and your new man won't want to marry you if you can't spawn?" What makes you think I want to marry an a*****e?" Eventually, there's a new doctor, a bipolar disorder diagnosis, and another pregnancy. This time I demand a tubal after giving birth and get it, because as a defective woman, I shouldn't be reproducing. Whatever, I'll lean on it. One of the doctors was concerned that I might feel "less of a woman." Maybe husband should get a vasectomy? Nope, THIS body is never, ever going to be prego again, whether it by a failed vasectomy, a one-night stand, r**e, or immaculate conception, just cut the d**n tubes. Endometriosis, 4 kids, age 35, a complete hysterectomy. Hooray, sweet sweet certainty.
Load More Replies...My gynaecologist used/ exploited an epileptic seizure that left me with a broken nose (and therefore, impressive "right after" photos) to call in a few favours, do a few tricks etc. to get me a sterilisation at 23. I never wanted children, 30 years later I still don't want them. It even could have been turned back or IVF used. But hey, better we force the young woman to be able to bear children, eh? I hope the guy is still alive and knows how proud he can be of what he did. He's a good'un.
The fact that a hypothetical man's wishes are taken more seriously than a real live woman never fails to astound me. I'm 57, childfree from single digits. never sterilized, but married two childfree men. And got lucky I never needed an abortion while they were still legal. REINSTATE ABORTION. Abortion is healthcare.
I had one kid. I was 25 and was refused by every doctor I saw. My husband was also 25. He got a vacectomy the first doctor he saw. And yes. they told me my husband may want more children.
SO disgusting! A man isn't going to potentially DIE from bustn a nut. Men just know better right? They have autonomy over their bodies bc they just know better. We are fooling ourselves if we think things are different. The patriarchy exists.
Load More Replies...That's absolutely true. I was early 20s when I said I never wanted kids but was not allowed to be sterilised; I asked again in my early 30s & was refused. I'm now 60 and never did have those kids I never wanted in the first place
"You aren`t an adult until you have kids"- guess I`ll stay teenager forever, then?
I’m trans (mtf), and I’ve had a front row seat to this, including from coworkers I’ve known for more than a decade. The other day one guy I’ve known since 2017 tried to explain how units of measure work. I’m Senior Director of Master Data…. 🙃 He never pulled that sort of thing before.
Look on the bright side, if he's mansplaining stuff to you, it means he's fully accepted your transition.
One of my mtf buddies is 6'3".witty as all get out, and shockingly good with both makeup and chess. She invited a guy to play her,, and dismissed with "I don't play chess with giirls." Her very loud response "Oh my God! Lee, this is wonderful! That a*****e just upgraded me to misogyny!"
Load More Replies...I was an engineer at a tech company that made applicants give a tech talk to the engineers as the final stage of the hiring process. When I walked into the room, dressed in shorts and a t-shirt like every other engineer, and carrying my laptop, he looked at me surprised and said “I thought the audience was supposed to be technical”. It was so wild I didn’t even under what had happened; my teammates got offended on my behalf and I had no idea why. He didn’t get the job.
The prospective employee only noticed the female engineer's attire, which was exactly the same as that of the male engineers.
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I broke my car key while on a weekend away with my bf and didn't have a spare, so we had to walk to a nearby garage with the two halves of my key to see if they could copy it. I explained it was my car and what happened, the guy asked my bf loads of questions all about the make, model year etc of the car, all which I answered as it was my car. When we came back an hour later to collect the copied key, I paid and he handed the key to my bf and wished him good luck. I grabbed the key out of his hand and said, it's not luck he needs to get it's a drivers licence.. the cheek of him after I doing all the explaining and paying to still assume it musssst be the man's car 🙄.
Then grey rock Dad. When he asks you why you tell your Mom everything and tell him nothing, be brutally honest with him and tell him it’s his own fault he’s not told anything. Then lay out everything you said here about how he treats you. Just say your peace and go silent. Leave the room if you have to. Let him stew in his own juices for a while, and see if he’s self-aware enough to realize he’s been an insufferable a*****e to you your entire life just because you’re his daughter and not his son. Of he does and truly makes amends and changes, great. If not, then continue to greyrock him. If he can’t be open to listening to you without talking over you and dismissing everything you say, then he’s going to be OUT of the loop. Forever. Old misogynistic a******s from that generation need to have the lesson be the roughest, coldest, and hardest (ie most “man-style”) lesson you can shove down his throat, and MAYBE it’ll finally sink in. Maybe. I’m 64, and had to do this with certain male members of my family. Some saw the light and became better people, but others didn’t and immediately were told they’re dead to me, and stayed that way. Sounds harsh, but some people only respond to harshness, sadly.
Oops, I think you meant this for the post above this one. ;) Yeah, dad sounds like a bit of a díck. You'd have thought he'd have had a little more respect for HIS OWN DAUGHTER but, well...
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When men are surprised that I’m funny.
I don’t even get this one. I would be so enamored of someone with a great sense of humor. Are these men somehow of the opinion that she’s faking the innate funniness?
It's generally just jealousy, especially if she's quick with a witty retort
Load More Replies...There is a French Youtuber named Natoo who was one of the first women (I think the first actually) to do humoristic videos on Youtube back in 2011. She even made a video talking about how men and women's humor was treated very differently (with a disadvantage for women)
I'm sure Jenna Marbles was earlier.
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There was a period of time where I was not working and I didn't have a vehicle so I decided to keep myself busy by reading books. Book after book, the female characters would make unbelievably brainless decisions. And they were female authors. I saw it countless times. I can't say it technically crept int *my* life unnoticed, because I'm not typically a reader and thankfully never had that in my life before, but it was an area of life that I had been unaware of before that.
Frustrates TF out of me too, when otherwise strong and capable women make the most d*****s mistakes or decisions—-or defer to an idiot male character to help them when they could damned well just push forward and help themselves a lot better than he ever could. Yes, I KNOW it’s fiction, and I KNOW it may be a plot device, but FFS, why can’t we have more female heroes, to get their numbers more even with male heroes? There are countless male heroes, but only a handful of female heroes? WT Actual F? Women are responsible for more heroic acts every day than men. They may not be big ticker-tape parade acts of heroism, but if you add up all the smaller ones we accomplish, there’s a hell of a lot more consistent heroism in women’s quiet subtle bravery than in the men’s once in a while splashy showy “look at me” OTT heroism, which a lot of them don’t even do all by themselves, yet never share the credit for.
I've been reading a lot more the last couple of years, and to my mind, reading stuff from 'young adult', or 'fantasy' genres tend to have more acknowledged, good decisions by women (and more LGBTQ+ characters), I guess it's necessitated in those genres as they're mostly read by younger generations. Hopefully the tide will continue to change!
Most of my favorite authors are those who write strong, capable female characters. Heinlein, Dean Koontz, Spider Robinson, Terry Pratchett, Jack Chalker... Funny, they're all men.
I'm currently re-reading the Discworld series. Adora Belle Dearheart came immediately to mind.
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Working in a kitchen means I hear all sorts of misogynistic s**t. Lots of machismo. And despite being there nearly 6 years, since the place opened, I find myself behind a lot of my coworkers who haven’t been there nearly as long. Maybe I’m just that bad at my job, I would hope it was this instead of just being a woman.
If it's a task done at home and without monetary compensation, it's women's work. That same task, in a professional setting, is somehow a man's job. The cognitive dissonance is staggering.
Got a job running the line at a major local pizza chain. I had 20 years experience in kitchens. They hired a couple teenage boys who had no clue nor ethic. I was let go, because I was "too aggressive" showing them the ropes. Bro, I'm from Southern Georgia.... my aggressive is "Would you Please scrape the cold shelf?"
I joined a church. A church elder was asking me some general questions for their records.
He asked me my husband's name. I replied that my husband wasn't joining the church.
He said they just needed a emergency contact person. I provided my husband's name and phone number.
A week later I received my tithing envelopes and the new church directory.
Both of them listed Mrs. Joe Smith. My name is nowhere to be found.
**fake name for privacy**.
Why assume it's Mormon? "Elder" is a term used in many denominations.
Load More Replies...Why would a church need an emergency contact person. Exactly what are they expecting to happen? In fact, why would they need any information about you?
I read this and say to myself, "Oh no...a Mormon convert?" i was born into it but haven't had any ties with it for decades. One of my sisters converted to Catholicism decades ago, and I asked her: "Why would you exchange one church run by old men for another?" I never got much of an answer.
Religion,the printer of all even ,and the worst for misogyny,and hypocrisy, going for a fictional book lol
My father in law commented that my husband is the “head of the household”. I lead several teams in a large company and earn much more than my father in law ever did, but well….
Why should the household have a head ? I mean, a household is at least 2 people so why should one of them have more importance ?
fil's opinion on the question is irrelevant, no matter what it is.
I always get my step dad to help with car stuff especially getting work done because if they hear I’m a woman it’s immediately more expensive.
Use women for all trades; it will cause men to step the f**k up & put their lying s**t straight too
Car mechanics. I cannot deal with car mechanics talking down to me especially when in my household I'M the one who knows the most about cars.
Also, I'm a photographer. When I have a man working with me I constantly have to see and hear other people on set refer to the man as "the photographer" and me as either just [my name] or be mistaken for an assistant *even when I have a camera in my hands in front of them*.
When my partner and I moved into our last apartment, I met our upstairs neighbor and got his phone number. I texted him in a group with my male partner. From then on, he never texted me anything house related, only my partner.
Looks like he thought you were single and when he saw you had a hubby decided to talk to him out of respect. He was worried about looking like a creep for talking to married women. Not saying it's not silly and out dated. Just my perspective.
Yes, that's exactly what it is. But it's more creepy that he shows that of course the woman will think he's interested in her. Of course he would only talk to her because he's interested her. He won't talk to her because she is not single and therefore not free to speak to another man. It's creepy in many, many ways.
Load More Replies...Always being minimised and likened to a child in my work, my 'appeal', my opinions. I'm sick of it.
Not that it would be ok anywhere, but it would help to know what field/profession this is.
I live in a country where misogyny isn't usually an issue. I don't know how but it really isn't. The only part of my life where I sense it is when I need some part for my car (a little project of mine). I can buy materials for home renovation and be active in the IT sector etc and no problem, but apparently cars are still an undiscovered land for women.
It is a little dumb & I don‘t know if that counts? But the three major german Haircare-Influencer are men. One has a wig for his videos.
Never questioned that until a friend of mine asked me how i can take his advice for testing Shampoo/Haircare when he has Short Natural hair and mine is super long and bleached?
I just trusted his expertise (he was indeed a hairstylist, but is Not anymore, so when he is testing Products he does so on his wig).
So he doesn't trust his own product on his real hair? If that's the case, why should anyone else trust it?
Which brand is this lol n is it available in uk, cos if it is IM NOT BUYING IT !!
Most of them are very noticeable, like for male relatives its okay for them to travel abroad and study, but if i want to, I should have an older family member with me.
I did have some misogynistic views growing up that i hate myself for now, due to other school students around me, i believed women are almost always more dramatic, more superficial, weaker than me(im a girl, but a tomboy who was hated by other girls my age, boys protected me, and i also fought physically with other boys, sometimes girls, i mostly won until some point where bodies change and boys become stronger than girls and real life started to hit) I now avoid hurting any female, and avoid jokingly hitting a guy but im ready to throw punches if a guy is about to be aggressive even if i will get my a*s handed to me
Thankfully my mom and dad were always open minded and believe in equalism compared to any family members(religious family) and I didn't grow up with much misogyny as my mother has always been active in human and womens rights and built a life and strong career all by herself for her and me.
She didn't grow up with misogyny. Soooo, she just determined on her her that girls were less than boys. Boys were better. Girls hated her "because she was tomboy", not because she was a snotty little brat who made it clear she thought they were dramatic, whiny, unpleasant to be around. Yeah, it was because she liked sports.
Load More Replies...Sometimes it goes the other way too. For a good few years in the UK (back circa 1998-2002ish), I worked as a Care Assistant in nursing homes. I actually started doing it because my mother was doing it and she roped me into volunteering for an afternoon at a place where most of the staff "called in sick" coincidentally on the day of a football final, and I liked it so decided to keep on doing that. Pretty much everybody just assumed I was gay because no straight man would ever do this job... uh, why? Because it takes a gay one or a woman to know how to care for somebody? JFC.
Sexism is not damaging only to women, it's damaging to all people. Like women can't be interested and capable in mechanic, construction work and all the fields and topics that usually are associated with men, men can't be interested and capable in all the fields and topics associated with women. If you are and it's not in line with your gender, you must be homosexual, obviously/s.
Load More Replies...I wasn't allowed to read or play with trucks in pre-k, as they were for the boys. Mom got me out of that school. Was told I could take ap history and English, but not math or science (despite having the highest scores) because they were for the boys who would one day provide for their families. Mom had none of that either. When I went to college later than most, my writing prof did a thing for women's awareness. We'd been studying the uneven portrayal of men and women in literature when the prof stops and ask who has been married, and did you notice anything interesting about the vows. Myself and one other woman raised our hands. Prof grinned and said both of you answer.togwther.... did the officiant say husband and wife? "No." They got to continue to be men, we got to be wives.
I honestly never caught that. Thanks for sharing. (Man and wife)
Load More Replies...I found this out early in my marriage when my wife and I talked to a contractor about replacement windows. He started talking down to my wife and wanting to know when her husband would be home. First, it was her house. Second, she and I had renovated our kitchen and two rental units prior to ever meeting that clown. I was certain she knew more about construction than that clown did. There was absolutely no way he would sell anything in our house.
I am a guy and I worked for a quickserve chain a long time ago... hell, it was Panera. Why am I trying to protect them, they were awful. I start as a manager-in-training. I came in on one of my first training shift to an opening manager in tears. The computers were down and she called the IT department for help and they treated her like she was stupid. While they were on hold, I asked what she did and tried a couple things (I had been building computers since the early 80s), nothing worked so somewhere the hardware had bonked. I picked up the phone and he got snotty with me. He started telling me things to try and I said "We already did." to everything he was saying, soI talked over him and said what else we tried. He shut up and sheepishly said he would have a tech out immediately and I hung up on him.
Another time, I came in to MY BOSS upset. She had called the IT department and they couldn't fix the issue over the phone and this guy asked her, again MY BOSS, if there was a male manager available for him to talk to. I told her she needed to report it, but she was in a higher position and didn't want to be seen as "difficult". Tbf, most computer guys I know are arrogant pricks in general, but I know they wouldn't have talked to me that way.
Load More Replies...I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the way that, in politics, the male is referred to as "LastName", while the female candidate is "FirstName".
My wife applied for a job at a local financial management office, and was basically overqualified, so they hired her on the spot. They just needed me, as her husband, to drop by the office and confirm in person that she had my permission to work outside the home. Seriously, in the 21st century, not the 19th! Needless to say, she found a job elsewhere!
No way that story is true. Not in 2025. There would be serious consequences if a legitmate buissness did that.
Load More Replies...Old lady. Own my own home. Young man selling yard maintenance. Part of my wall along drive had fallen onto yard and I just hadn't dealt with it yet (long story), He said he''d give me a $50 discount because wall was down. I said I'd pay him the $50 if he fixed it. He ended up giving me $100 off. Part of the wall was just misaligned. I said do you want to use my mallet? I opened my garage (with a work bench and tools hanging all around, including a "real" rubber mallet. I thought he would slobber he was so excited as I told him about laying flooring, building screened in porch and the jobs I helped my non-misogynistic dad with as a kid.
Don't argue; just say no. Period. No thank you. Close the door.
Load More Replies...Sometimes it goes the other way too. For a good few years in the UK (back circa 1998-2002ish), I worked as a Care Assistant in nursing homes. I actually started doing it because my mother was doing it and she roped me into volunteering for an afternoon at a place where most of the staff "called in sick" coincidentally on the day of a football final, and I liked it so decided to keep on doing that. Pretty much everybody just assumed I was gay because no straight man would ever do this job... uh, why? Because it takes a gay one or a woman to know how to care for somebody? JFC.
Sexism is not damaging only to women, it's damaging to all people. Like women can't be interested and capable in mechanic, construction work and all the fields and topics that usually are associated with men, men can't be interested and capable in all the fields and topics associated with women. If you are and it's not in line with your gender, you must be homosexual, obviously/s.
Load More Replies...I wasn't allowed to read or play with trucks in pre-k, as they were for the boys. Mom got me out of that school. Was told I could take ap history and English, but not math or science (despite having the highest scores) because they were for the boys who would one day provide for their families. Mom had none of that either. When I went to college later than most, my writing prof did a thing for women's awareness. We'd been studying the uneven portrayal of men and women in literature when the prof stops and ask who has been married, and did you notice anything interesting about the vows. Myself and one other woman raised our hands. Prof grinned and said both of you answer.togwther.... did the officiant say husband and wife? "No." They got to continue to be men, we got to be wives.
I honestly never caught that. Thanks for sharing. (Man and wife)
Load More Replies...I found this out early in my marriage when my wife and I talked to a contractor about replacement windows. He started talking down to my wife and wanting to know when her husband would be home. First, it was her house. Second, she and I had renovated our kitchen and two rental units prior to ever meeting that clown. I was certain she knew more about construction than that clown did. There was absolutely no way he would sell anything in our house.
I am a guy and I worked for a quickserve chain a long time ago... hell, it was Panera. Why am I trying to protect them, they were awful. I start as a manager-in-training. I came in on one of my first training shift to an opening manager in tears. The computers were down and she called the IT department for help and they treated her like she was stupid. While they were on hold, I asked what she did and tried a couple things (I had been building computers since the early 80s), nothing worked so somewhere the hardware had bonked. I picked up the phone and he got snotty with me. He started telling me things to try and I said "We already did." to everything he was saying, soI talked over him and said what else we tried. He shut up and sheepishly said he would have a tech out immediately and I hung up on him.
Another time, I came in to MY BOSS upset. She had called the IT department and they couldn't fix the issue over the phone and this guy asked her, again MY BOSS, if there was a male manager available for him to talk to. I told her she needed to report it, but she was in a higher position and didn't want to be seen as "difficult". Tbf, most computer guys I know are arrogant pricks in general, but I know they wouldn't have talked to me that way.
Load More Replies...I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the way that, in politics, the male is referred to as "LastName", while the female candidate is "FirstName".
My wife applied for a job at a local financial management office, and was basically overqualified, so they hired her on the spot. They just needed me, as her husband, to drop by the office and confirm in person that she had my permission to work outside the home. Seriously, in the 21st century, not the 19th! Needless to say, she found a job elsewhere!
No way that story is true. Not in 2025. There would be serious consequences if a legitmate buissness did that.
Load More Replies...Old lady. Own my own home. Young man selling yard maintenance. Part of my wall along drive had fallen onto yard and I just hadn't dealt with it yet (long story), He said he''d give me a $50 discount because wall was down. I said I'd pay him the $50 if he fixed it. He ended up giving me $100 off. Part of the wall was just misaligned. I said do you want to use my mallet? I opened my garage (with a work bench and tools hanging all around, including a "real" rubber mallet. I thought he would slobber he was so excited as I told him about laying flooring, building screened in porch and the jobs I helped my non-misogynistic dad with as a kid.
Don't argue; just say no. Period. No thank you. Close the door.
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