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When you think of a feminist, it’s easy to picture someone rallying around with bold signs or standing on a stage giving powerful speeches with passion and purpose. While such iconic scenes of activism have a huge impact, feminism isn't just about big actions - it's in the little things, too. It's in our daily conversations, in the way we behave with each other, and in the choices we make.

Recently, many people on TikTok have been sharing tiny changes they have made in their daily lives to make things fairer for women. This new trend started when Ashley Chaney, a producer and host from Los Angeles, shared how she practiced "microfeminisms" in her workplace. Pandas, let's look at how everyone can fight back against misogyny in their day-to-day lives in small ways.

Ashley Chaney took to TikTok to share how she practices "microfeminisms" at her workplace

@iamashleychaney Girl’s girl, corporate edition. #microfeminism #feminist #feminism #corporatelife #girlsgirl ♬ original sound - Ashley Chaney

People continued the trend by sharing their acts of microfeminisms

#1

33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By I put a lot of effort into trying to break my female students from the habit of over-apologizing. If they add to a discussion and say, "Oh, I'm sorry, but I just wanted to add," I'll stop them there and say, "Don't apologize for contributing. Please just speak your idea."

ashley.unfiltered , Kampus Production / Pexels Report

Jcusack
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Please just speak your idea" Great line!

May
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do it all the time unfortunately "Hum well I don't think it's that important but...."....My boss (woman) does what OP is doing but I know I should just stop doing that in the first place.

LB
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1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a good one! It doesn't rely on reversing sexism.

Ari Maranichi
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly this is a lesson I need to learn. It's great that you tell them to not over apologize

Danish Susanne
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I especially liked the "Don't apologize for contributing".

Matthew Barabas
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

does it work? i was trying to stop my girlfriend from apologizing all the time, but it doesnt work.

Queeqec
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This! Plus 'don't tilt your head and wipe of that cute girly smile' stand your ground without trying to look cute.

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Now, if you go to Google and type microfeminisms, you might not find a precise definition. And based on the comment section of the viral video, not many people have heard about the term either. So, what is it?

Feminism itself is about believing in and working towards equality between men and women. It's not about one gender being better than the other - it's about everyone having the same rights and opportunities. It’s about making sure that females get treated the same in society, in politics, and at work.

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    #2

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By As a woman who works in nuclear weapons policy, geopolitics, international security, my favorite thing to do when men want to debate nuclear deterrence theory with me, is to start by complimenting them on their passion for this issue. And it really throws them off because just the idea of their views being connected to emotion really puzzles them.

    beafihn , Jopwell / Pexels Report

    Rachknits
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love this one, its a positive way to challenge sexism

    WindySwede
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get this one? /gen the men think they can't have passion about their knowledge? Or they don't have knowledge, but just a lot of mansplaining?

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    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "complimenting them on their passion for this issue" how does deter men? if i heard that i'd say great, now lets talk about it....

    G A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like being patronising works both ways.

    Pyla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    their passion is "I GOTTA BE RIGHT!"

    Pferdchen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I may have met this woman. When I asked her what she did, she asked "What if I said I worked at Krispy Kreme?" I replied that it brought back many happy memories of going there with my friends. Later, she apologized and admitted that she was a rocket scientist / defense analyst. I worked for a think tank with many such specialists, so I asked her if she knew so-and-so. She laughed and said she had just spoken with him the day before.

    Spring B.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Legit question: How? Does anyone have an example on how to compliment someone's passion?

    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a really good method. Not combative but encouraging with a positive approach. Good way to influence an environment of equality instead of resentment and animosity.

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    #3

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By When a man takes credit for a woman's idea or a woman's work, I will always call this out, whether that's for me or another woman. It's not at all unusual for me to turn around and say something along the lines of, "Oh, John, that's a fantastic point and I think it's really relevant in this conversation. I also really enjoyed when Mary brought it up earlier."

    ellalowgren , Fox / Pexels Report

    arthbach
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's even better to say, "John, that's fantastic. Thank you for reminding us of the point Mary made earlier in this meeting." Then turn and look at Mary, "Mary, do you have anything else to add to your original point? How do you suggest we progress?"

    HTakeover
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Thank you for circling back to Mary's point. Mary, did you have any additional thoughts?"

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    roddy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead of complimenting them, you could say, I believe that's the same point Mary just brought up, and yes, it's a good one. Thanks, Mary.

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm curious if OP does the same thing if a woman takes credit for another woman's work, or if a man takes credit for anther man's work.

    K. LNU
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right? I've had a woman (try) and take credit for my work (I'm also a woman). Of course, she is an equal opportunity jerk and does that to almost everyone, male or female.

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    Ronstantin
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't this topic actually gender-independent? If a woman takes credit for a man's idea it should also been called out. (I know it's a sensitive issue. But I have the feeling that some posts take a general problem and turn it into a gender problem. I think if we talk about “people” instead of men and women, we all meet at eye level and don't make anyone a blanket victim or perpetrator. And I'm not saying that sexism doesn't exist. Just not everywhere.)

    HTakeover
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True that it's a problem that affects everybody and I think the majority of us are aware/smart enough to apply it to everybody. But when it disproportionately affects one gender (or race or legal status, or whatever identifier), we need to spend some extra time pointing out the toxic nature to try & correct. It's not a disservice to someone to not specifically include them in a topic in which they're the far minority. Many of these do affect everyone, but most of these affect women FAR more than they affect men.

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    Tyke
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a male colleague present back to myself and a female colleague a slide that we wrote. He took it, put it in his presentation and presented it back. We were the only people in the room. We were dumfounded. Until I asked him a question on it and he couldn't answer so we both educated him for about 20 minutes.

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My guess is he learned nothing and did it again when he could.

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    G A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Works both ways so why women specific?

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that does nothing. sorry. yes you are calling him out in front of everyone but in the end it doesn't change anything.... i've done this too, and credit still goes to the person who brought it up to the right person. instead of blasting them in front of everyone like a child, go to the right person and set the story straight with them.

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    For instance, many people advocate for a woman’s right to make decisions about her own body, including access to contraception and safe, legal abortion. For many years, women have fought for greater representation in leadership roles, including politics. An increase in the number of women in diverse roles at all levels amplifies their voice in the decision-making processes. Other movements like equal pay, maternity rights, and health access work towards creating a more inclusive society.

    While significant efforts are being made to address these larger issues, we can't overlook the smaller, yet equally impactful, instances of discrimination and misogyny against women. From casual remarks to inequalities in the workplace and public spaces, women deal with microaggressions in their day-to-day lives. And pushing back against these small injustices can be seen as microfeminisms.

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    #4

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By I find in general at work that I'm not interrupted by women in meetings, but I am often interrupted by men. So if I'm interrupted by men, I will then, in turn, interrupt them back, but I will never interrupt another woman when she's speaking. 

    This is one that I am pretty feral for, but I will not stop talking if I'm interrupted by a man. I will keep talking until he becomes so uncomfortable that he stops talking, and then when he finally does stop trying to interrupt me, I will finish what I'm saying. But I'll usually say something that's a little bit uncomfortable for him, like, "Oh. Great. Now that you've finished interrupting me, I can finish my point before you continue." I also do this if anyone interrupts another woman that is speaking. I will ask the man to stop interrupting to let her finish her thought before he continues.

    ellalowgren , Christina Morillo / Pexels Report

    RP
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A simple "I'm not done" or "hold that thought" sends a clearer politer message and doesn't waste everyone's time.

    royal_antelope
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's no need to be polite in this situation.

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    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone interrupts you, I would suggest politely saying 'Do you mind ? I was not done' instead of interrupting back. Brings shame to the one interrupting in front of everyone.

    Who cares what I think, but...
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But some people, (men AND women), just don't know how to stop talking. Had a guy talk over the phone for 30 minutes straight, taking breathing breaks at odd times (not at the end of a sentence), and no one in the meeting could interrupt him.

    G A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah but some people just won't shut up doesn't matter what sex they are.

    Max Fox
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many cultures have what is called "collaborative overlap" in which it is rare that people wait for the previous speaker to finish. However, if you interrupt, and the previous speaker keeps on talking, you are expected to back down. If the original speaker wasn't finished making their point, the first speaker can either continue or can tell the interrupter to wait a second for them to finish. So I don't know that this would be as effective in cultures with collaborative overlap. However, even in cultures with collaborative overlap discussions, you don't interrupt randomly, and in professional settings, interrupting is less acceptable, but people are also expected to make their points quickly. In my experience, women are better at presenting their points in professional setting clearly and quickly, while I have seen that men are more likely to ramble.

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some women are better, but not all. I was a few months back at a General Assembly and this woman says: I have a short question and then rambled on for close on two whole minutes before even getting to the question.

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    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im the supervisor of a department of 6 employees, 5 women, 1 man. he's not the problem, he doesn't actually interrupt, but when one of my coworkers is talking to me, and she has something important, and then someone from another department walks in and starts talking to me, even though she is very clearly already talking, i keep eye contact with her and say "dude, she was already talking. wait until she's done".... like c'mon

    Danny Haworth
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m sorry the middle of my sentence, interrupted the start of yours!

    Some guy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one strikes me a little funny, only because I (a man) used to have a woman coworker who would interrupt me in meetings to make the same point I was already making. (No hard feelings, though; we ended up marrying each other.)

    Spittnimage
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This happens to me with family. Rude people I live with 🤫

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    #5

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By So I teach a class at a university and the other day I'm walking on campus, going back to my car after class. So I'm on the sidewalk, on the correct side of the sidewalk, only taking up my one little lane, and I'm walking to the car. And sure enough, there's a group of eight young men walking towards me, taking up the entire sidewalk.

    None of them are on their phones. They're talking to each other, but they're all looking forward and they just keep walking forward. Nobody moves over there, taking up the entire sidewalk. And I kept walking in my lane and I literally walked into one of them.

    strategicclassroom , Lina Kivaka / Pexels Report

    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I am in this type of situation, I usually stop walking. I stand stock still facing straight ahead, looking right at whoever is going to walk into me. I have found that the other person usually moves aside.

    EP
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Just stop dead in your tracks. Me the object they have to find their way around.

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    François Bouzigues
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The real power move here is looking past the group as if they were not existing and don´t stop. For some reason they will notice and give way.

    Danish Susanne
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this will work most of the time. If they see, that you do not notice them they HAVE to giv way. It only works on people coming towards you unfortunately.

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    Zedrapazia
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started doing that too about two years ago. I am hurrying to the train station, dumbass, you are just strolling away. Move or I'll run into you

    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I started with that after an old fart started giggling and making shoo shoo noises after I went around him, btw. Some people seem to see that as some sort of power trip when you have to go around them

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    detective miller's hat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this all the time. They hardly ever move over first, so I have crashed into multiple men, and their confusion is pretty amusing.

    Babs McGurk
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work on a college campus, as well, and I'm amazed at the students who feel the need to walk 4 and 5 abreast on the sidewalk. I always continue walking in a straight line at the edge of the sidewalk, and have run into one of them more than once. They always look stunned and say, "Oh!" as if they didn't know I was headed their way. I do not have an invisibility cloak, so I'm sure I'm visible. It's amazing to me how utterly oblivious they are to anyone but themselves.

    Xip Dizc
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this a gender unique issue? Women and mixed groups do this all the time also. But yes like other commenters said, I like to stop and stare at them too.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's not gender unique, I also remember getting elbowed really hard in the face by a popular girl at school, because I, her "inferior" being that I was unpopular and viciously bullied, should have recognised my inferiority and got out of her way, and when I didn't, she responded with physical violence, because how DARE I think she should even slightly move for me instead of just getting out of her way. but, in public, I do find it's mostly men that assume you'll move around them. not always, but mostly.

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    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    one thing I've done lately is stopped getting out of peoples way, like I'm less important than them. when people walk right at me, as they often do. I just stand there. I don't move anymore. don't get me wrong, I'm still aware of people around me, I've just stopped assuming I'M the one in the way. it's different if you're walking towards someone, and you both move to opposite sides of a space to pass each other, or end up doing the accidental dance where you both keep changing direction and blocking each other. but it's the ones that just walk right at you assuming you'll move that I WILL NOT move for anymore. if they bump into me, fine. their fault if I'm standing still. they always look so offended. it's hilarious.

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men and women and mixed groups all do this. The larger the group the less likely they are to be polite on a sidewalk.

    Karina
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I lock eyes and play chicken bowling.

    Jordan Miller
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, shouting red rover throws them off, because you see it as a game at that point

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    #6

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By My favorite form of microfeminism is to bulldoze through life acting like I've never even heard of sexism or like I've never received the messaging that I need to play it small in order to avoid upsetting others. You will be shooketh when you realize how well this works because a lot of modern sexism is upheld by women's willingness to censor and shrink themselves in order to avoid being confronted, challenged, or corrected in any way. Many of us are taught from a young age that the worst thing that you can do is upset or disappoint somebody outside of you. But when you walk into a room with confidence and authority and like God herself sent you and you don't care what anybody thinks about you, you'd be surprised how many people will just fall in line. Because a lot of people depend on women to take the first step of censoring and shrinking themselves so they don't have to be the jerk and do it for them. In fact, what I've learned in my personal experience is that most people are not willing to confront, correct, or challenge me because I moved through the world in this way. Because I moved through the world acting like I've never received this messaging. In fact, most people learn pretty quickly that the best way to deal with me is to get out of my way. So go forth. Be oblivious, my loves. You will not be sorry.

    thriving_imperfectly , Alexander Suhorucov / Pexels Report

    Michelle-Randy Carlson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I joined the Navy right out of high school and this was what I had to learn. It's served me well through the years.

    Rob D
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to gender god a female just to p**s people off (atheist). But upon reflection, no way a woman could've f****d this up this badly.

    Max Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is probably one of the most effective of the entire list, and I have seen how effective it is. Moreover, the more women behave like this, the more effective it is.

    Romy Schneider
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am the same and it works well most of the time.

    Gracie Mae
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    some of the jobs I've had are not generally considered to be for women; basically had to bulldoze my way through (& of course, work harder to 'prove' myself). I might not qualify as a fullsize bulldozer, but being a little bobcat has served me well!

    Rae North
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mostly agree with this point. I always act confidant in public situations, especially at work and people will mostly, 'fall in line' and take you seriously.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    maybe its because of where i work... but we have a lot more women in the office than men. it's a mix of men and women throughout all managerial and director positions... it's very equal, and everyone opinions are considered.

    Julia Mckinney
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My favorite thing to do back when I was much younger was to ask "why can't a girl (be the president of the photography club, run the fundraiser, act as security etc...)" and watch them stammer over the answer.

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    #7

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By I like to always notice when people use passive language to describe actions that men have taken against women. So often you'll notice this if someone gets followed home, then they'll just say it like that. My friend got followed home or my friend got harassed at a bar, when, in fact, the unsaid is that a MAN harassed your friend at a bar. A MAN followed your friend home. 

    And by taking the man out of the sentence, you are basically just leaving the unsaid that it is a man to be normalized. Because if a woman followed your friend home, that would be the first thing that you said. Like, "Oh my God, a woman followed my friend home. That's so weird."

    Like, "Oh, this woman was harassing my friend." And the fact that it's so normalized that we can use the passive tone and know what's happening shouldn't be normal.

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    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for pointing this out.

    Trillian
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not only that it normalizes it, it also takes out the man as the acting subject. And therefore as the one who is responsible for the act.

    C W
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same with racism. We leave out 'white' man, but always include 'black' man.

    Tyke
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of this that I read a few years ago. The bit that hit hard was "Even the term VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN is problematic, it's a passive construction.... it shifts the focus off men and boys and onto women and girls" PHOTO-2020...4b0a06.jpg PHOTO-2020-11-02-12-18-03-663bd464b0a06.jpg

    RabidChild
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right?! I think this is part of women's conditioning to always take the blame when men target them, too. it's definitely something to be aware of.

    HighNMightyBigshotBossOfWorld
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So true, works the same with white people. It’s always Black this that and the other, Latinos, Asians but rarely white when it’s a negative occurrence especially. So now when people identify white criminals, white people yell “reverse racism”.also, look how white crime is described by background to not say white, I.e. Italian mob, Irish mob, Russian mobs against the Eastern front, Dixie mafia, Serbians, Czechs, motorcycle gangs, militia, and all this is in the states not Europe!

    Karina
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We should all start asking when this happens.

    Natalie Kelsey
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My daughter had a stalker harassing her all through her senior year of college and we had to stress that it was a woman every time it was reported because security always assumed it was a man. But it was this small, innocent looking woman who was in actuality quite feral and frightening

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    #8

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By Whenever a man calls me like, sweetie or darling or gorgeous, I will call them THAT back.

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    DB
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting. I've found that women usually address me that way first.

    Ronstantin
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I honestly wonder if the sex/gender really matters here. Bc if a person adresses me inappropriately I will ask to refrain from that. (I don't mean to be rude, so if I'm missin something specific here, I'm happy to hear about it :) )

    Adira Bennett
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the piece you might be missing is that many women have experienced being called "sweetie", etc, in a demeaning and/or inappropriate fashion everywhere from a stranger on the street to a superior at work. Those terms are used sometimes by men with relative power to make women feel almost like children. When you fire it back on them and they get unsettled, it's because they knew on some level that their use of the word was belitting, and they're startled to be made uncomfortable with a reminder of how those words can feel from the other side of the table.

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    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This has come up before here and I've pointed out that these terms can be regional customs. In parts of the south (US) darlin' is not unusual at all.

    BWC
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would make me smile. I was at a restaurant and, throughout the meal, the wait person, who was a woman, referred to me as "sweetie", "honey, and " darlin'". Same thing at a bar that I used to frequent. Sometimes it's just a local thing and not meant as condescending, though, I do recognize that there are times that it is intended that way. "Bless your heart" 😉🖖

    Cammy Mack
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You will find that the men won't mind. Like, even a little. This is not the "own" you think this is.

    Noproblem
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to host regular conference calls for a team with two Steves. One day just jokingly, I told them that in order to cut confusion, I would call one “Peanut” and the other “Kitten.” They loved it. They started introducing themselves on calls with their new pet names, and signing emails with their new pet names. The other guys on the team wanted pet names, too. That year I got a Christmas card from Peanut, Kitten, Tater, Champ, and Sweet Pea.

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    Zophra
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I haven't had this work for me . I've had men think I'm flirting. Ugh.

    HTakeover
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call them baffling pet names that will make their brain reset in place. Like "muffin juice", "burrito supremo", "Tom Jones", "squeaker". Or go with the condescending standbys like "champ", or "slugger".

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sweetie doesn't seem to do much, but "princess"...oh man.

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    JK
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I address *everyone* like this, irrespective of gender. I honestly dont get the big deal??

    DippityDooDerp
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from the south. I don't care if you're 8 or 80, man or woman or anything in between I'm gonna call you sweetie, dear, darling, sweetheart, etc.

    Janet Martinez
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from north US but I do the same 'xact thing, I think it adds extra personality and character and just makes you seem more interesting.

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    Auntriarch
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sweet pea. Not that it happens much these days. Partly because I'm an oldie, but partly because chaps seem to be be rather better informed

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    #9

    When I'm in a position to be introducing people who are part of a couple, I always introduce the woman first, talk about her job, and then introduce the man as her husband or boyfriend or whatever. "Oh, have you met Dr. Jane? And this is her husband, John." That one always earns a smile from the women and kind of a baffled look from the men.

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    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just start with the one I know best.

    Max Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been a trailing spouse for a few years, so you'll never get any baffled looks from me.

    cerinamroth
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can never remember anyone's name so I always get my husband to introduce himself first so I hear their name again.

    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ooo smart, I am terrible with names. I'll know your dog's name, your cat's name but forgive me I just can't remember yours.

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    Lynette Hannan (Lyn)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have known this to end up with arguments between the couple back home on two separate occasions. Also, I'll introduce someone by name (usually the one I know best first) and then their partner by name. I just leave off talking about jobs - I'm not into that scene. After someone has been introduced, that's a free-for-all for interrogations of all sorts, which I prefer to stay out of.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah, I hate that jobs are such a big part of small talk. I once saw a meme saying that one of the first things people ask you is what your job is, so they can decide how much respect to give you, and that rings very true. my husband can't work because of his disability, and I've SEEN the difference in how people talk to him as soon as he says he can't work. I think it's far more interesting to ask people about their hobbies, if they have any pets etc. it tells you a lot more about them and what makes them tick.

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    MushroomHead22
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    ok and if they aren't a doctor? what if she's mean and rude to everyone but you, and the SO is a doctor and a respected individual in his community... you people make me laugh with how childish you can act and think it effects the people you're trying get a reaction out of... i guarantee more than half the reactions depicted here are over exaggerations.

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    #10

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By Not asking women about their relationship status.

    I assume women are single by choice in the same way that we assume men are single by choice. I had a grandmother who would grill everyone about their relationship status and it made me cringe, so I vowed that would never ever be me.

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    Just Another Girl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When asked I say I’m happily single. That’s unexpected and leaves no room to doubt that it’s my choice.

    Mrs Irish Mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had a doctor appointment for my mental health with a woman doctor and she told me i may be stressed because im a single mother, she just assumed.. Im married to my kids father, she really pis$ed me off...

    Jayjay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Somehow single men are "tough good guys" and single women need to be felt sorry for. Still not getting it :). Too many people are like your grandmother and especially childless women get grilled and are not seen as full worthy women.

    HTakeover
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pandas of the world, how does it currently stand in your part of the world? It seems like the crappy assumptions, or at least the nosy questions, have lessened greatly in the midwest US (still there, but nowhere near as bad) while in central Europe it's still really bad.

    random username
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, do we assume that men are single by choice? I was rather under impression that, socially, "single man" = "immature looser"?

    May
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on you social status and looks. Either you're indeed the immature looser, or the 'independent man who has overnight conquests and doesn't want to get attached'. For women it's usually (but that depends on your culture, at least in mine) 'all women want to have a family and children so if you're single: poor poor you, no prince charming has selected you'.

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    G A
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Happens to blokes too.

    Max Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, but making any assumption at all is ridiculous. Assuming that they are single by choice implies that this is important information, and it shouldn't be. Moreover, this is also a harmful assumption. I mean, the fact that they are single may be the result of a traumatic event and saying anything under that assumption can be very hurtful.

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    #11

    Whenever somebody comes to ask me if they can borrow some big strong boys to do something helpful around the school, I have always made it a point to send them some strong girls. Because usually the job is really fun, everybody wants to do it, and we all know that girls are just as capable of doing any job that a boy can do.

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    kath morgan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still have a hangup about this, how “big strong boys” got to get out of class. I can lift things, it won’t cause hysteria

    Upstaged75
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once had this obnoxious Russian coworker lose his mind because I used a screwdriver to put a mailbox on the office door. He acted like I had just cured cancer. It was so insulting.

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    Blue Bunny of Happiness
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don’t assume that just because someone is male that they can move furniture/whatever. Men can have bad backs and not be physically strong etc too!

    GettingCereal
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My friend once asked me if I can send out "the guys" and I asked what for. Turns out she wanted some cases of beer moved. I went out with her and moved the cases of beer. "These do not require masculine muscle."

    Karina
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do Boys really have much more to go on compared to girls, before puberty anyway?

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd say pretty equally matched. I was the fastest runner in elementary school. But by highschool the guys were faster, by a lot.

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    Squiffle Noses
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to be a retail manager - although bio males average stronger than women it's foolish to think that even small bio females cant wrestle a few heavy boxes around... being weaker by comparison doesn't make them weak in the absolute sense. Bio males will all soon be replaced by robots and people in powered lifting suits anyway!

    Matthew Savestheworld
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As one of the big strong boys I totally endorse this. Just because I am tall does not mean that you have to call me every time you need to move boxes of books or furniture. There are female athletes in the class who would be happy to do it, and I could stay here eating my snickers

    Distinguished Gentleman
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    when i was in primary school and a teacher came in asking this i'd put my hand up (I'm genderfluid but was fem presenting at the time lol) it was really funny cause I was actually probably stronger than most of the boys in my classes cause I did swim squad and martial arts every week

    SirWriteALot
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh I hate that. It's mostly just an excuse to be lazy. "I need strong boys to set up the chairs over there". (garden chairs. so heavy.) Or "I need a strong man to help me move my computer." (it was a laptop and a monitor)

    MushroomHead22
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    so someone comes in and asks for boys and you just send girls instead.... i mean maybe you spoke up, but you should have put the person in their place and say "i will send you my best students"....

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    #12

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By If everyone is on the same level in a meeting, I will ask any follow-up meetings that need to be booked to be booked by a member of the team that is male.

    Just because women typically get asked to do it all the time and it's just assumed, so I will go out of my way to ask one of the men on the team to book any follow-up meetings and to make sure that that all happens.

    ellalowgren , fauxels / Pexels Report

    Debbie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We just ask the one who brough a laptop or is logged into the pc in the meeting. Purposely asking men isn't the way to select who books it. Just take turns, or ask who wants to book it.

    Squiffle Noses
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dissagree. I have picked up a few key points in life - here's one! -------> I heard a Harvard (or was it MIT?) psychology department head say that, whenever they had a meeting to discuss a new appointment they would take a few minutes at the end to assess whether they had accidentally missed out any female or minority group candidates - because as experts in how the human mind works they knew that this might not have happened. Th4ey almost always came up with 1 or 2 prime candidates that have been left out - they knew that even their expertise did not stop them from doing this. SO... I suspect that following YOUR method would disproportionately result in a woman doing it.

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    Leigh James
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did this, too. I, and my female colleagues, are not males secretaries, cleaning ladies, etc

    Jo Slatermill
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my old workplace I was single male with 8 female workers, and I was the only one asked to go upstairs and get new paper for the copy machine. I always asked why send me all the time, and they said, well, you are a man, easier for you to carry it!

    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I think the issue is that when there's one person of a specific gender, the rest being of the other, that person is going to be asked some specific tasks for some unknown silly reasons. Like organise the 'retirement party' for the colleagues for the ladies (including the food), and go start the video projector for the males. I'm glad it doesn't work like that in my current office.

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    Trillian
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have a rota for that, also for who is in charge of taking notes

    Cat_Whisperer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t know why it’s so hard to just treat people the same regardless of gender. I was under the assumption that ‘feminism’ meant that women should be treated the same way as men. A lot of these ‘examples’ just read like petty acts of revenge for centuries of being treated like 2nd class citizens. In this case, either rotate or choose someone that you know to be reliable. Having a clearly biased boss/manager is still going to breed resentment in male employees over time, just as the same is true for women with a biased male boss. A toxic workplace is still a toxic workplace regardless of what your boss does or doesn’t have between their legs.

    MushroomHead22
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    so instead of just letting someone speak up and do it, you purposefully try to make a man feel small? you're just being a douche. the fact you don't even give someone a chance to say "hey, i'll do it" you're still a problem. you set you bar off of a generalization "Just because women typically get asked"

    BWC
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You, completely, missed the topic of this post. Next you'll be saying, "not all men".

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    #13

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By I don't give body-specific compliments positively or negatively.

    I grew up in a family with a lot of men and this is something that I've actually learned that men do a lot. A lot of times when they see somebody has made improvements to their health, their compliments are like, "You look great, bro, like you look really strong," and so I thought of giving compliments to women in a similar way and saying, "You're really glowing, you look really radiant." Even if they've happened to lose a lot of weight. But I'm not affirming that the weight loss is the thing that made them beautiful, but like that they're beautiful and maybe they happened to lose weight. I don't know. Maybe they changed their skincare. It could be anything.

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    random username
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Oh, you lost so much weigh, you look great" - "Have you just told me that I was fat and ugly?" Also, so many negative things can result in weight loss (depression, major diseases) it's really not a good idea to bring it up in a casual talk as something unequivocally good.

    cerinamroth
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always learned to compliment things that aren't a physical characteristic because it puts too much emphasis on our outer selves and not as much on our inner selves. So, I will say: "I love the way you said that - you have such a good way with words." "Or those colours look great on you - you always seem to have an eye for what looks good on you." "You're an excellent cook and always make me feel so relaxed when I'm at your place."

    Angrykitten
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, I go out of my way to not compliment loss or gain. You're looking happy, your skin is glowing etc. Compliment the color of clothing not the fit.

    Justme
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Mom would do this after I had a non-weight related stomach surgery. I lost maybe 5-10lbs and was really cold. She would get all happy and say I’m cold because of the weight loss. I had to repeatedly tell her that NO it’s because it’s Summer time and for some reason that prompts Dad to crank up the AC and your house becomes a freezer.

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Be vary. A man in my family lost 10 kg and it suited him, so I was pleased, until he lost another 40 kg and looked terrible. And only then his doctor thought to get him tested properly. Turned out his pancreas had stopped working.

    Shaunn Munn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Commenting on appearance, even obliquely, isn't a good idea. Ask them something pertinent to the reason you're meeting. Keep personal views to yourself. That glowing radiance might be the beginning of a fever.

    MushroomHead22
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    "You look great, bro, like you look really strong" no they do not say that, like ever... they will never "you look strong" that is the lamest thing i've ever heard..... they say "lookin' good bro" and thats it.

    Bexxxx
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My male friends definitely do tell each other stuff like that though 😂 your tiny, individual, personal experience doesn’t dictate how life is for the other 8 billion of us, fyi.

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    #14

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By If somebody says I have to talk to the board, or I have to talk to the chairperson of the board, or I have to talk to the CEO or CFO or whoever, I will say "Let me know what she says." Always "she." Like, my default is she or her instead of he or him. Obviously, unless I know the person and I know that it's a man. I don't go out of my way to be wrong.

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    LB
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could just use 'they'

    Angrykitten
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hearing she in these circumstances can be jarring and some people will realize they default to he and might make the change. Correcting with they, or pointing out could be a she I find isn't as helpful as it can create defensiveness. Where as the jarring feeling can be more profound and effective.

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    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "She or he" is always an option.

    MushroomHead22
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    they never implied it was a male. they said CEO... not the man, or the big guy upstairs. just say "let me know what they say"... like is it that hard to just be normal.

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    #15

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By On every rental application and lease we've ever had, I've put myself as the primary contact, and every time a real estate or a tradesperson gets in contact and defers to my partner, I make him then re-loop me in.

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    HTakeover
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hopefully the S/O is involved. I would totally back my S/O up on something like that; "Did you talk to the primary contact first?"

    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a good thing to do. It's rude and unprofessional to ignore that you are the primary contact.

    Mrs Irish Mom
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like when sky rang because our internet wasnt working and i got asked to put the bill payer on the phone, yes that be me 🙈 think they ment the account holder but that be me also as its in mine and hubbys name.. was a nice way of telling me to put hubby on phone

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    I let my wife do all this as she was good at it. Don't get me wrong I loave feminism as is just a narcissistic excuse to be an a*****e but fair and reasonable relationships are where it's at.

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    A study from the Harvard Business Review showed that female Supreme Court justices are more frequently interrupted by their male counterparts and advocates during oral arguments compared to their male peers. Such incidents undermine a woman’s expertise and contribution to the discussions at work.

    In this situation, a microfeminist action would be for others to let the female justice speak without interruption. This not only lets them have a chance to fully participate but also gives them the same respect and attention as their male counterparts.

    #16

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By When I'm at work and I am speaking to an owner-level CEO, high-level individual, oftentimes a man, and they will give me no handshake at all.

    Literally last week, it was a high level, he shook my husband's hand, but not mine. I called him back to shake my hand and then he did and it was a bad handshake and then I made him redo it.

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    Debbie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure how this helps, but I know if this would happen it would infuriate me. My ex and me once went looking for new windowsills (is that the word?) and the salesman was talking to my ex about all the technicalities. Then he turned to me and said: And it's very easy to clean with just green soap! (That is the moment he lost the sale).

    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Took on a loan to buy a half million flat, my banker of 20 years kept addressing my boyfriend, even though he wasn't buying the flat, wasn't taking the loan, and wasn't even a client of the bank. Went to the competition.

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    Squiffle Noses
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES! I once got complemented by my girlfriend because a colleague's (large breasted) girlfriend told her that I was the only man she knew that looked her in the eyes when talking to her... I mean the bar is just set way to low am I right!?

    Jill Rhodry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought the pandemic took care of handshaking but to add another layer of old-fashioned habits - many men are still not sure whether or not to shake a woman's hand - some do, some don't - so if you want to shake hands, then offer your hand first.

    Back in St. Olaf
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I, too, had hoped that we had dispensed with handshakes after 2020. But alas, no. The worst handshake is the "boneless" handshake that men often give women. It feels like I am squeezing a bag of frozen fruit left on the counter all day. And it's perfectly gross.

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    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shake everyone's hand. That's professional. If they decline to shake hands then so be it, nothing wrong with it.

    Angrykitten
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really wish we did away with the handshaking. It's kind of ridiculous.

    MalP
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had someone (a nice man) teach me how to do a proper handshake back in the early 80's. To this day I still get the occasional surprised look from men. Never give a wimpy handshake. Though the practice is less common since covid.

    Max Fox
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One should also be aware of cultural nuances. In some cultures and religious sects, men and women are not permitted to touch. So demanding specifically a handshake can be a cultural faux pas. On the other hand (pun intended), there are ways of respectfully acknowledging somebody without a handshake.

    CaptainFluffy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once went to sign a lease and hand over a considerable sum in cash. I took a male friend with me who had nothing to do with the lease (he was just there as I didn’t want to go on my own with so much cash). The leaser shook his hand but refused to shake mine in religious grounds. I was furious. 20 years later I still am. If hand shaking is not allowed for one sex, you should not offer your hand to the other, especially if they are not the one doing business with you.

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    DavZell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then there is the HR class and legal departments telling him to never a woman for any reason, especially as he is in a senior position. I'm with the other poster that said if you (a woman) is OK with any kind of contact, you need to make it clear. It's an unfortunate side effect from the actions of men that led to the me too movement.

    MushroomHead22
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    ok and you're point is? you look like an idiot...

    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Point is Business is Business. In the Western world, either you shake everyone's hands, or you don't at all. Don't be upset, us women didn't make the rule.

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    Sure you did...

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    #17

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By I'm a waitress, and my form of microfeminism is every time someone pays a check, I give it to the woman. And then the guy just looks at me all weird.

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    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just put it in the middle of the table or hand it over to the closest person. I don't see the feminism there. We adults can figure out who gets to pay the bill.

    Jill Rhodry
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't know where this person's from so you don't know the social attitude - this could be overt feminism in a lot of areas.

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    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    every place I go to, they give it to whomever requested the bill or if you are finished and they are trying to get you moving, they place it in the middle of the table

    Ace
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All very well, but a better way would simply be to give it to whoever asked for it, surely? What if there are more than two people at the table?

    Angrykitten
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband once pointed out that every time we go to dinner he is always the one who gets handed the check. I hadn't even realized. Now I make it a point to take the check. Joint account so doesn't matter, but it's the point of it.

    Jon Stuart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not feminism its narcissism.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you know in todays society this doesn't really work anymore... there are more and more men who do not give a flying f**k who pays the bill... and if anything you might be putting the woman in an awkward position. what if it was agreed upon that the man would pay; maybe this is a birthday supper, maybe its to celebrate something.... again you're just being a douche for no reason. put it in the middle of the table like a normal person.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not been in this line of work, but I would give it to whoever asked if they could have the bill.

    Some guy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I worked a lunch cart in college, if a man and a woman said their orders were together, I would make a point of looking at BOTH when I gave them the total if I didn't know who was buying.

    Power puff scientist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i think this puts most women in a weird position because often they dont want to pay for the check on a date so handing them the check means they need to hand it over again making it more awkward. i wish girls would take the check and immediately just pay but never works that way in my experience.

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    #18

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By My favorite form of microfeminism is that when I send an email, let's say to like a CEO, and you have to copy their assistant for scheduling purposes, if the assistant is a female, I will always enter their email address before the CEO's. So if like the CEO was Bob and the assistant is a female named Jane, I'm always going to put Jane and then the CEO. Like nobody probably notices, but it makes me feel like I see you. Another thing that I do, kind of along the same lines, is if I'm emailing a team, I will always address the woman first in the actual email. So I'll be like, "Hey Kathy and Joe."

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    CanadianDimes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always do it by alphabetical order (first name). Removes any hierarchy

    bElLa sTairZz
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that sounds so excessive! how much time do you spend going over it?

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    Jill Rhodry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The recipient goes into the to: field and the assistant goes into the cc: field - regardless of genders.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah. And I order the email address by hierarchy, like boss is first, their second is second.... And if they're the same position, alphabetical. Same in the cc line, by hierarchy and then alphabetically.

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    Ace
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just silly, pointless and poor use of communication media. In that scenario you should be using cc to whichever one is not the actual target of your communication. If you're talking to the admin to arrange something then you may just cc the CEO so s/he's kept in the loop, if your email to the CEO just contains a couple of things that the admin may need to be aware of, then vice versa. And it should be the same regardless of the respective genders of CEO and assistant.

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one who needs to take action as a result of the email should definitely come first. For the boss it's just an fyi.

    LeMurierBonjour
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone sends me an email starting with 'Hey...', I would ignore or delete. It is a wholly impolite form of address and I am not a horse.

    Michelle-Randy Carlson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I 100% do this. I work in academia and these little things matter.

    detective miller's hat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always send to the assistant and cc their boss because usually the assistant is way more on top of things.

    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I address the woman first as well, thought it was a polite thing to do

    Lyone Fein
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every woman who is listed first notices.

    MushroomHead22
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    you realise men do not care. you do. you care. this affects you more than it does them. in the end, you work for the CEO and sending that email was part of your job. why should he give a s**t who's name is first? what are you 9 years old?

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    Casually making unsolicited comments about a woman’s body is also not acceptable on any occasion. Imagine you are attending a family wedding and your aunt comments on your weight, saying things like, "You've put on some kgs, haven't you?" in front of other relatives. Not only does this make you feel embarrassed but also self-conscious. We should refrain from commenting on women's bodies, whether it's to give positive or negative compliments.

    #19

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By Playdates. I'm making a point to schedule as much playdate time as possible. A lot of times I'm dealing with other moms. Moms of other children. But I force the dads to be involved. I'll text them first. I'll email them first. If I run into them, I say, "Hey, here's my number. Let's set something up for our kids."

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    K. LNU
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate the wording here and will probably get down voted but "force the dads" by texting them? How about asking both parents or the parent that is there with said child/children "hey, can I contact you both and set up something for our kids?" Otherwise, it could turn into a Reddit story.

    Giraffy Window
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, no to this. I make sure if there's two parents in the picture, that they are in a group text with me so that I'm texting both of them.

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    cerinamroth
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Germany's pretty progressive in terms of fathers being very involved with childcare but this is one area where there is room for improvement. I am added to the WhatsApp chats for birthdays and kindergarten, even though my husband is the one who takes our son to kindergarten every day. I'm also the only one in the WhatsApp chats for school for our daughter. I've tried changing things, and they are - slowly - but this is still certainly the default.

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    This is actually an example of misandry, given that from context we must assume that the other group members are mostly or all female and it's they who are assuming that your husband must take second place to you in matters of childraising.

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    Debbie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are you a man or a woman? Just thinking that (another prejudice) is that a women always seeking out the men is kinda sus. Here at our kids schools we just deal with the parent that comes to pick the kids up. (we usually then arrange playdates).

    Fairytails From Other Worlds
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Me too! I keep asking the dads questions like “where did you buy that jacket from? Looks functional.” and “is Jane available for playdate next Wednesday?” Some of them actually can even answer the questions. I used to ask my husband things like “what did you get for [child’s friend] birthday gift and when he replies “I didn’t know it was my task”, I reply “well who’s then? It’s day after tomorrow and we haven’t talked about it yet.” Now we speak more about tasks like this.

    Matthew Savestheworld
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dad here. Gald to be included. Thank you for that. No need to force me. But definitely we should set something up

    WhatEvenIsLife
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband is a SAHD and has tried for years to join stay at home parent groups and schedule playdates for our kids. These groups were all exclusively made up of women. Let's just say a lot of the moms have been less than enthusiastic about making him feel welcome. And part of me gets it; there are men who would definitely try to infiltrate a moms' group just to be skeevy. But my husband genuinely just wanted to find friends for our kids and it upset him that he was met with constant suspicion and not really included in the chatting at the playground. He did eventually find one group for dads in our area, but there weren't many members and they weren't very active.

    Papa
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    So if the father works full-time, while the mother stays home with pre-school children, OP will reach out to the father first to set up play dates for the pre-schoolers? That sounds like a great plan. (Yes, the sarcasm was intentional.)

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    "Moms of other children" can mean soo much in this paragraph 😂

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    #20

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By If we're in a group and a man and a woman talk at the same time, I am 100 percent going to listen to the woman.

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    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dunno about you, but I am absolutely incapable of doing that. It's sometimes very very awkward in parties, at the restaurant etc, if the people next to me are just a little bit loud, I will be absolutely incapable of focusing on what my interlocutor is telling me, and stare in the void. Brain automatically tries to pick up on both conversation and is confused and ends up understanding none of them. I hate when it happens.

    Justme
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have this - for me it’s a mix of ADD and auditory processing disorder. If more than one person is talking - or if someone is talking during the movie 😡 it all just becomes inaudible and I can’t pick up on any of it.

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    Ronstantin
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't help but think: does this count as (micro)feminism? Because here the men are basically excluded. (Again, honestly: If I miss something here, please let me know.)

    Graham_Illegal
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, you right. This one counts as (micro)sexism by definition.

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    Dread Pirate Roberts
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should really depend on the situation and each speaker's personality. If one is a douche and the other is nice, I'll listen to the nice one, regardless of gender. Or I would just straight up say, "Whoa, one at a time, please!" 😖

    DavZell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At meetings, it is very affective to say "hold on John" or at different times call on specific women for their input. It doesn't take long for people (male or female) to learn how *your* meetings are run. Men arr less dominant and women tend to speak up more.

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    #21

    I always use female-identifying language.
    So if you're telling me you went to the doctor: "What did she say?"
    "Oh, you've been consulting with your lawyer. How did she advise you?"

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    EP
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I say They when I don’t know as not to assume, period.

    Jeevesssssss
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So do I, it works just fine. And yet some people get so worked up by the use of 'they' as a pronoun for someone LGBT!

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    VOTE if you live in the USA
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES! I do this too, especially around my young children. Like if we see a bug on the sidewalk they want to pick up I'll say something like "oh let's be very gentle with her!" I default to female for everything.

    Funhog
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to work with a woman who'd told me that she'd regularly used female-identifying language with her 5-year old son. For example, whenever they were in the car and see a person working high up on a telephone pole, road construction, or any other job, whether or not she could tell that the person was a man, she'd say something like: "Look, son, there's a woman up there doing maintenance on the telephone pole." or "Look, there's a woman driving that bulldozer." She then told me that she must've done it too often because one day her son asked her, "mommy, don't any men do these jobs, too?"

    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I say he or she instinctively depending on the job to be honest. Then the person corrects and we're good.

    Min
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that's the issue OP was pointing out. Making a pronoun assumption based on the job is in itself sexist. Teacher? Librarian? Nurse? Must be a woman. Plumber? Lawyer? Doctor? Must be a man. That mindset is literally the problem.

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    MushroomHead22
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    this works in english.... any other language words are gendered.

    Calane E. Vanya
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not any other, but many. Sometimes I'm really annoyed that I can't use something like "they" in my first language.

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    Lyone Fein
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    Always assume in the female

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    Other instances include assuming that all women have motherly instincts, thinking girls love the color pink or accusing a woman of being a bad driver. Change begins at the grassroots level. And changing how we perceive and respond to these small, unintentional acts of misogyny can make a big difference. What are your thoughts on “microfeminisms”? Do you currently practice it, or do you plan to start now?

    #22

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By When I've just had a baby and when people come to my house, like a man and a woman or like relatives or whatever, I will always thrust my baby in the direction of the man first. So I'll be like, "Can you hold my baby while I have a shower or something?"

    Because women are always holding babies. We always expect it. So men can get used to it.

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    Matt Du
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are child free by choice if someone thrust a child at us, when it wasn't an emergency neither of us would like it.

    François Bouzigues
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is it even related ? You are child free means you cannot hold a baby ? I have no pets, means i cannot hold / pet a cat ?

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    Linus Nilsson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this is a good thing, but not in the weaponized way that OP suggest, but since a lot of men get to hear that kids are not for them when growing up. There are loads of men that would love to hold your baby, but won't ask since it's "inappropriate".

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm always happy to hold a baby, and often ask if I can hold him or her.

    Tyke
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband would be elated to be handed the baby first

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    Upstaged75
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm childfree but I always want to hold babies! Feel free to pass them my way. :) I used to be a professional nanny, so I'm good with kids.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so you use your baby as a prop? what if they are very uncomfortable and haven't held a baby before? you do know there are people out there that are scared of holding a baby.... you're a bad mother for using your child as a political point.

    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was scared sh1tless to hold a baby before I learned to hold my own. It was more I was afraid of dropping the baby.

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    René Sauer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I would directly say " NOpe, not touching it!". That is, if I ever get into that situation in the first place.

    Restless panda 🇫🇮
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same. I'm not touching those, not sorry. 🤮 (Edit, just in case: I'm a woman)

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    Becca not Becky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't feel like this totally stems from sexism though. People have always been more trusting of women than men when it comes to children, and do I really need to elaborate on that? Also, this can be straight up unsafe for the baby or disrespectful to the other person (man or woman).

    Min
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your 2nd sentence is literally sexism.

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    Max Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would love that. I'll take that baby any time. Interestingly, though, women are physically built to hold children more easily. It became obvious when our kid was a toddler, that I was actually strengthening the muscles in my upper arms and shoulders far more than my wife was, since she could balance our kid on her hips, while I had to rely on just holding them. So when you're handing your baby to a man, you are actually doing them a favor by helping them exercise...

    WhatEvenIsLife
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of these assume a little aggressively. I wouldn't shove my baby at anyone of any gender without first asking if they wanted to hold them. I definitely wouldn't ask them to *watch* the baby while I went off and did something unless it had already been discussed that they were coming over with that intention in mind.

    Squiffle Noses
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people are revolted by them... and never touched one in their life - so why not ask who will hold it? Or is accidentally f****n@ it up not possible?

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    #23

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By I literally got comments on when I was printing stuff for my wedding. I always list the woman's name first. In my head I just think of it like we're entering a room and guess what? Ladies first.

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    DavZell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This post is ironic. You want the invite to be non-male-first, but you are happy to leverage ladies first?

    Matt Du
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one sounds like double standards to me.

    Justme
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Old fashioned etiquette for addressing invitations is to note the woman’s name first. Doesn’t apply with for all couples so it’s not relevant anymore.

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't agree with this. It seems to me the old fashioned way was: 'Mr. & Mrs. John Smith.' Definitely sexist and thankfully gone.

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    Daniela Lavanza
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I for one would choose the best sounding order if I had to make wedding cards. If it makes no real difference, then it would a random choice.

    Přemek Marek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want to be precise, there are some rooms when men enter first (mostly for safety) and some rooms when women enter first (etiquette). However, that was largely dependent on doormakers/builders using correct type of doors so that is possible - if the door are opening inwards and have strong self-closing mechanism, it is really awkward to reach around and hold them open if you are letting someone in first... So in thst case I go first and then hold the door open, because to me, that is the point.

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    Carole Deem
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    DavZell I found your comment to be disquieting and unnecessary.

    #24

    If a woman says something in an email, like they do some research and they have an opinion on something, and I think it's right, but I think more needs to get added, I will say, "I think Jessica's 100 percent right. This is correct." I'll affirm and then continue. But like, if a man says it, I'll just say, "I want to add," and I'll just go into whatever I'm going to add. And I think that part is just important because it's important to like, cement, especially for women, to like, boost confidence and just be like, "Hey, they're f**king right. They're f**king smart and they're f**king right."

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    May
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, but that's bad management. You need to be fair with all colleagues. Clearly not all men are confident. Just do what you say with over-confident employees, and support the less confident or more junior staff.

    Theora Fifty-five Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    May I introduce you to the concept of affirmative action? I'm old, I have been discriminated against because of my gender. Women are still not heard. Acceptance of the status quo allows it to remain.

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    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    how about just be a good boss and manage your people properly. this is why people like you shouldn't be in positions like that. and notice i said people... no woman, not man, people. you are a person and human first and foremost, and you are not a nice one.

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not microfeminism. This is straight-up sexism.

    KL Harrold
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this doing the women a favour? OP is giving men *better* feedback than women- if she thinks "more needs to get added" to something in a woman's email, but says it's great, you're not helping their professional development and you're coddling them. It might just be me, but that doesn't sound like great feminism to me???

    Binky Melnik
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I, like, never, ever want to, like, email, or, like, text, or, like, speak with this, like, person who, like, likes “like” everywhere. I’d strangle her in no time flat, and people around her who hafta listen to her “liking” everything will be muy grateful.

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    #25

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By If I compliment a man on his shirt, I love to say, "Ooh, I love that top."

    They always look so confused, like, "What, thank you for complimenting me, but also, huh? This is a shirt."

    meghatiktoks , Brooke Cagle / Unsplash Report

    Ace
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, cos a man is going to be really confused and upset by you referring to his shirt as a top. Now if you called it a blouse it would have some effect, sure, but would 90% of the time be taken as being petty or snide, even as an insult and not a genuine compliment.

    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmm we need to do an experiment with the "Alphas". Record their response to each word lol.

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    Porribix
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well we don't recieve that many compliments. i can recall 2 in the last 10 years.

    Min
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love your user name.

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    Definitely a Human
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get this. I love getting compliments on my shirts.

    Přemek Marek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, for a large percentage of men, using "top" is a safe way to identify that piece of fabric... Is it a shirt? Is it a blouse? Is it a camisole? Is it something I have not ever heard about?

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It just seems to indicate you don't know the difference.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "What, thank you for complimenting me, but also, huh? This is a shirt." how many... how many actually have said this to you? be honest cause the answer is probably 1 guy, 1 time, and now you do it every time expecting this reaction and you get mad when they just say "thanks"... not all men give a c**p about things like this.

    Binky Melnik
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, the post seems to have gone over pandas heads. It seems not to be a good day for comprehension. This post is about referring to a man’s shirt as a “top,” a word usually used for women’s shirts.

    David Beaulieu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't this 99% that men are stupid and don't know what to call things, so they try to conform as best they can?

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    #26

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By Sometimes in the lift, if a man is waiting for me to go, I also stand and wait for him to go.

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    Marcos Valencia
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Courtesy is for everybody, of course.

    Debbie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indeed, this has nothing to do with feminism but common courtesy. You let the ones who are nearest the doors off first.

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    David Fox
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Letting someone go first is common decency, men do this to men too......it's not always man/woman thing.

    May
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like when some male colleagues let me first, it makes me feel like some kind of royalty haha. And I do go otherwise the people behind waiting in line are going to be pissed about the wait.

    Kel_how
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was driving in a parking lot and 3 male pedestrians were waiting to cross the street. I stopped and waved them across. Two began crossing and the third kept waving me on. Um, hello, there are now 2 people in the road, just f*****g cross already. Stop trying to be polite; you're being a nuisance.

    Falcon on Dizzy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ok so what you want me to do is be selfish and not hold the door for you even though you're close to getting on?

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ok... then he goes. good job, you were a decent person?

    Israel Martinez
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to comment on this because this also goes with holding a door open ... IDGAF if you're a man or woman, if I feel like it, I'm holding the door for you ... and I'm saying "you're welcome" whether you thank me or not ...

    Ronstantin
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really like this one! If we want to overcome sexism and an outdated image of politeness, one way is to turn the corresponding "rules" around until they are like neutralized. Like in this example "ladies first", which still seems to be common practice for some. Be kind to everybody and don't exclude. (Btw: Nothing wrong to let a woman go first. But only because we are equals and I want to be nice to everybody. Not because some rules of etiquette.)

    MalP
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just like holding a door.

    Manana Man
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I lived in the north (US) I stopped dong things like holding doors for women because I was just as likely to get a dirty look as a thank you. Now I live in the south (again, US). People are much more polite here. It's very common to offer to let someone else go first, especially women.

    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'll get whacked with a cane if you don't hold the door for an elderly woman down here though lol 🤭 (south US). Speak from experience...In my defense, she was around a corner by the door and couldn't see her at all.

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    #27

    When I send an email, my natural impulse is to say, "Hey, just checking in."
    "Hey, just checking on that brief."

    And I always delete the "just" and say, "Hey, checking in. Give me the brief."

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    May
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like you're in a hurry or annoyed. My two very nice and shy female team members would believe I am upset at them.

    Raquel Mencke
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Give me the brief'? Give me a break. Being polite is not weak.

    René Sauer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sounds kinda rude. some pleasantries don´t hurt anybody.

    JammaCoast2Coast
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the use of 'just' to take up even less space or inconvenience of an ask. Being to the point isn't rude, but taking out the 'just' for reaching out and asking for an update also removes the implication of being a nuisance.

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this: "Hey, just checking in." "Hey, just checking on that brief.".... sounds forced. like you are patronizing me. ""Hey, checking in. Give me the brief."".... this is good.

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    #28

    You know how the art that men like is seen as universal and the art that women like is seen as girly? Well, my form of microfeminism is addressing girly music or TV or movies as the norm, while whatever men like is niche and unknown.

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    May
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What's 'art that men like' and 'art that women like' ? Genuinely asking. I think Britney Spears, Katy Perry and Taylor Swift are quite universal at this stage.

    Theora Fifty-five Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men and the art world usually like and promote art by men. Women artists routinely get backlash and harassment.

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    Ace
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What now? Where on earth does that idea come from?

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    dafuq are you talking about? you have weird friends.

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dafuq are YOU talking about? Friends aren’t mentioned in this post.

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    #29

    If I'm on an email with a bunch of people who do not outrank each other, obviously, this is like, if there's not a secretary, not an assistant, anything like that, and someone has to send like a calendar invite or a Zoom invite or something like that, I will, um, ask the men in the group to send it, or like a specific man in the group, like, "Hey John, do you mind sending that?"

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    Papa
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I, like, found that really difficult to, like, read.

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and the John says "nope" what do you do?

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell him he's an a$$. It's not like it's hard.

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    #30

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By If a male and female student in my class either raise their hands at the same time or begin speaking at the same time in the course of a discussion, and this happens a lot, um, I will kind of pause them and say, "Oh, I can only hear one of you at a time." And I'll ask the female student to go first.

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    May
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You should let the shyest (or less participative) one first. I had very shy, yet very smart male students who often didn't dare participate, so I let them first as a way to encourage them. Otherwise they'll politely put their hand down and won't raise it again.

    Linda Riebel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    May, get over yourself with telling women to stop using their clever interactions. Or maybe you're a man and you just want to hassle women?

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    Biofish23
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, I do not like this at all! While she does not specify age range theis sounds like the sort of thing you might say to fairly young kids. these little boys are definitely going to notice that their teacher favors the girls. And the only thing they are likely to learn from it is there is no point in them trying to participate in class.

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    um um um um um um um um um um.... like, you know you don't like, need to write the way you, um, talk, right... jesus christ these are getting worse as the list goes on

    Giraffy Window
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are so many people typing "um" into these stories?

    #31

    33 "Microfeminism" Practices People Swear By Anytime you're being told a story or someone recounts an article or something that happened and doesn't identify the gender of the main character of that story, like: 
    "Oh hey, did you see that drunk driver crash into the hospital?" 
    "Oh my god, what was his name?" 

    "Did you hear about that firefighter that saved three kids?" 
    "Oh my god, she sounds incredible, that's great, good for her."

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    Polterbean
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does no one here like the word "they"

    Noltha
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would sound incredibly strange in my mother tongue.

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    René Sauer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, if it´s something bad, it was a guy, but if it was good, it was a woman? Isn´t that called sexism?

    May
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    1 year ago

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    That's cringe. The odds are both were male. Just say he and you might be corrected, and that's it.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago

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    not for nothing... but the amount of times i've had the firefighters around my house, or even in my house, not once have i seen a woman. im 100% certain they exist. but in my experience, its mostly been on TV.

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    #32

    This isn't one that I get to engage in anymore, because I left working for the federal government to teach a couple of years ago. But when I did work for Uncle Sam, part of my job had me dealing with minors, and I had to verify parental relationships, confirm parental identity, and get parental consent.

    And in cases where the parents were both a man and a woman, I always spoke directly to mom. I also documented her paperwork first on forms and got her signature first.

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    Debbie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sure about this. This is "default parent is mom, eventhough DAD is listed as the one to be called when things happen, school still calls mom."

    Ms.GB
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah this is the opposite of feminism

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    Joanna
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one is reinforcing the stereotype rather than challenging it lol

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everyone defaults to the mom! That's not feminism.

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah most people would default to the mom. in fact to make a point you should have spoken to the dad.

    Rob D
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some (many) of these are not microfeminism examples. Just gender-targeted pettiness. I know the world has been net unfair to women (understatement), but some of these aren't helping the cause. And more importantly diluting more important issues.

    Dread Pirate Roberts
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This just seems kinda sexist. The dad is no less of a parent than the mom.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't feminism. It's assuming that mum is the default parent. Which just lands the woman with the majority of the mental and emotional labour, and a greater share of childcare duties.

    WhatEvenIsLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See, I always find it a bit annoying that doctors and the like automatically address me more than my husband when discussing our kids. When my son got stitches, the doctor directed me to sit next to him to comfort him without even looking at my husband. I don't need them to pick one us; it's a simple question: "Who'd like to sit next to him?" Or, better yet, ask our son. Just making these things a conversation instead of an assumption would address the problem. Inverting the assumption is just you making a different assumption that could be just as wrong.

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    #33

    I'm a server in a restaurant, and if a man and a woman come in together, and they're like, "We're just gonna split this one thing," when I bring the food out, I put the full plate of food in front of the woman, and I put an empty plate in front of the man. And then I say, "This is for if she decides to share with you. Enjoy your lunch, sweetie."

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    roddy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem with this is you're asking the woman to be mom and portion out the food. And she'll skimp on her own portion. Just put it in the middle.

    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is blatant sexism. Are we going for EQUALITY? Equal. Put that food in the middle

    Ace
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Sweetie'? Really? And you're claiming to be feminist?

    MushroomHead22
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you're a d**k. and the woman at the table probably doesn't appreciate what you did.

    René Sauer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, really rude of the waiter. They already said they split, so put in the middle of the table.

    May
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, put it in the middle, we'll figure it out ffs.

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    May
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So we're supposed to appreciate you being quite rude to our male companion ?

    Raquel Mencke
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't call me sweetie or any other pet name if you do not know me. You are actually showing you are disregarding my preference and therefore me. Most of these are just ridiculous.

    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife would love to have a word with her if she did all of this to us. lol

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    kath morgan
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I respect not defaulting to putting the food in front of the man (which is a thing), but the comment is cheeky, didn’t need to add it.

    Rob D
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I'm serving a table (waay back when) splitting a meal, I'm not even going to put the effort into that much conversation.

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