When you think of a feminist, it’s easy to picture someone rallying around with bold signs or standing on a stage giving powerful speeches with passion and purpose. While such iconic scenes of activism have a huge impact, feminism isn't just about big actions - it's in the little things, too. It's in our daily conversations, in the way we behave with each other, and in the choices we make.
Recently, many people on TikTok have been sharing tiny changes they have made in their daily lives to make things fairer for women. This new trend started when Ashley Chaney, a producer and host from Los Angeles, shared how she practiced "microfeminisms" in her workplace. Pandas, let's look at how everyone can fight back against misogyny in their day-to-day lives in small ways.
Ashley Chaney took to TikTok to share how she practices "microfeminisms" at her workplace
@iamashleychaney Girl’s girl, corporate edition. #microfeminism #feminist #feminism #corporatelife #girlsgirl ♬ original sound - Ashley Chaney
People continued the trend by sharing their acts of microfeminisms
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I put a lot of effort into trying to break my female students from the habit of over-apologizing. If they add to a discussion and say, "Oh, I'm sorry, but I just wanted to add," I'll stop them there and say, "Don't apologize for contributing. Please just speak your idea."
Sadly this is a lesson I need to learn. It's great that you tell them to not over apologize
does it work? i was trying to stop my girlfriend from apologizing all the time, but it doesnt work.
Now, if you go to Google and type microfeminisms, you might not find a precise definition. And based on the comment section of the viral video, not many people have heard about the term either. So, what is it?
Feminism itself is about believing in and working towards equality between men and women. It's not about one gender being better than the other - it's about everyone having the same rights and opportunities. It’s about making sure that females get treated the same in society, in politics, and at work.
As a woman who works in nuclear weapons policy, geopolitics, international security, my favorite thing to do when men want to debate nuclear deterrence theory with me, is to start by complimenting them on their passion for this issue. And it really throws them off because just the idea of their views being connected to emotion really puzzles them.
I don't get this one? /gen the men think they can't have passion about their knowledge? Or they don't have knowledge, but just a lot of mansplaining?
Load More Replies..."complimenting them on their passion for this issue" how does deter men? if i heard that i'd say great, now lets talk about it....
I think I may have met this woman. When I asked her what she did, she asked "What if I said I worked at Krispy Kreme?" I replied that it brought back many happy memories of going there with my friends. Later, she apologized and admitted that she was a rocket scientist / defense analyst. I worked for a think tank with many such specialists, so I asked her if she knew so-and-so. She laughed and said she had just spoken with him the day before.
That's a really good method. Not combative but encouraging with a positive approach. Good way to influence an environment of equality instead of resentment and animosity.
When a man takes credit for a woman's idea or a woman's work, I will always call this out, whether that's for me or another woman.
It's not at all unusual for me to turn around and say something along the lines of, "Oh, John, that's a fantastic point and I think it's really relevant in this conversation. I also really enjoyed when Mary brought it up earlier."
It's even better to say, "John, that's fantastic. Thank you for reminding us of the point Mary made earlier in this meeting." Then turn and look at Mary, "Mary, do you have anything else to add to your original point? How do you suggest we progress?"
"Thank you for circling back to Mary's point. Mary, did you have any additional thoughts?"
Load More Replies...I'm curious if OP does the same thing if a woman takes credit for another woman's work, or if a man takes credit for anther man's work.
Right? I've had a woman (try) and take credit for my work (I'm also a woman). Of course, she is an equal opportunity jerk and does that to almost everyone, male or female.
Load More Replies...Isn't this topic actually gender-independent? If a woman takes credit for a man's idea it should also been called out. (I know it's a sensitive issue. But I have the feeling that some posts take a general problem and turn it into a gender problem. I think if we talk about “people” instead of men and women, we all meet at eye level and don't make anyone a blanket victim or perpetrator. And I'm not saying that sexism doesn't exist. Just not everywhere.)
True that it's a problem that affects everybody and I think the majority of us are aware/smart enough to apply it to everybody. But when it disproportionately affects one gender (or race or legal status, or whatever identifier), we need to spend some extra time pointing out the toxic nature to try & correct. It's not a disservice to someone to not specifically include them in a topic in which they're the far minority. Many of these do affect everyone, but most of these affect women FAR more than they affect men.
Load More Replies...And I love the term "flapsy attitude". I aspire to have one!
Load More Replies...I had a male colleague present back to myself and a female colleague a slide that we wrote. He took it, put it in his presentation and presented it back. We were the only people in the room. We were dumfounded. Until I asked him a question on it and he couldn't answer so we both educated him for about 20 minutes.
My guess is he learned nothing and did it again when he could.
Load More Replies...that does nothing. sorry. yes you are calling him out in front of everyone but in the end it doesn't change anything.... i've done this too, and credit still goes to the person who brought it up to the right person. instead of blasting them in front of everyone like a child, go to the right person and set the story straight with them.
For instance, many people advocate for a woman’s right to make decisions about her own body, including access to contraception and safe, legal abortion. For many years, women have fought for greater representation in leadership roles, including politics. An increase in the number of women in diverse roles at all levels amplifies their voice in the decision-making processes. Other movements like equal pay, maternity rights, and health access work towards creating a more inclusive society.
While significant efforts are being made to address these larger issues, we can't overlook the smaller, yet equally impactful, instances of discrimination and misogyny against women. From casual remarks to inequalities in the workplace and public spaces, women deal with microaggressions in their day-to-day lives. And pushing back against these small injustices can be seen as microfeminisms.
I find in general at work that I'm not interrupted by women in meetings, but I am often interrupted by men. So if I'm interrupted by men, I will then, in turn, interrupt them back, but I will never interrupt another woman when she's speaking.
This is one that I am pretty feral for, but I will not stop talking if I'm interrupted by a man. I will keep talking until he becomes so uncomfortable that he stops talking, and then when he finally does stop trying to interrupt me, I will finish what I'm saying. But I'll usually say something that's a little bit uncomfortable for him, like, "Oh. Great. Now that you've finished interrupting me, I can finish my point before you continue." I also do this if anyone interrupts another woman that is speaking. I will ask the man to stop interrupting to let her finish her thought before he continues.
A simple "I'm not done" or "hold that thought" sends a clearer politer message and doesn't waste everyone's time.
There's no need to be polite in this situation.
Load More Replies...But some people, (men AND women), just don't know how to stop talking. Had a guy talk over the phone for 30 minutes straight, taking breathing breaks at odd times (not at the end of a sentence), and no one in the meeting could interrupt him.
Many cultures have what is called "collaborative overlap" in which it is rare that people wait for the previous speaker to finish. However, if you interrupt, and the previous speaker keeps on talking, you are expected to back down. If the original speaker wasn't finished making their point, the first speaker can either continue or can tell the interrupter to wait a second for them to finish. So I don't know that this would be as effective in cultures with collaborative overlap. However, even in cultures with collaborative overlap discussions, you don't interrupt randomly, and in professional settings, interrupting is less acceptable, but people are also expected to make their points quickly. In my experience, women are better at presenting their points in professional setting clearly and quickly, while I have seen that men are more likely to ramble.
Some women are better, but not all. I was a few months back at a General Assembly and this woman says: I have a short question and then rambled on for close on two whole minutes before even getting to the question.
Load More Replies...im the supervisor of a department of 6 employees, 5 women, 1 man. he's not the problem, he doesn't actually interrupt, but when one of my coworkers is talking to me, and she has something important, and then someone from another department walks in and starts talking to me, even though she is very clearly already talking, i keep eye contact with her and say "dude, she was already talking. wait until she's done".... like c'mon
So I teach a class at a university and the other day I'm walking on campus, going back to my car after class. So I'm on the sidewalk, on the correct side of the sidewalk, only taking up my one little lane, and I'm walking to the car. And sure enough, there's a group of eight young men walking towards me, taking up the entire sidewalk.
None of them are on their phones. They're talking to each other, but they're all looking forward and they just keep walking forward. Nobody moves over there, taking up the entire sidewalk. And I kept walking in my lane and I literally walked into one of them.
When I am in this type of situation, I usually stop walking. I stand stock still facing straight ahead, looking right at whoever is going to walk into me. I have found that the other person usually moves aside.
This. Just stop dead in your tracks. Me the object they have to find their way around.
Load More Replies...The real power move here is looking past the group as if they were not existing and don´t stop. For some reason they will notice and give way.
I think this will work most of the time. If they see, that you do not notice them they HAVE to giv way. It only works on people coming towards you unfortunately.
Load More Replies...I started doing that too about two years ago. I am hurrying to the train station, dumbass, you are just strolling away. Move or I'll run into you
I started with that after an old fart started giggling and making shoo shoo noises after I went around him, btw. Some people seem to see that as some sort of power trip when you have to go around them
Load More Replies...I do this all the time. They hardly ever move over first, so I have crashed into multiple men, and their confusion is pretty amusing.
I work on a college campus, as well, and I'm amazed at the students who feel the need to walk 4 and 5 abreast on the sidewalk. I always continue walking in a straight line at the edge of the sidewalk, and have run into one of them more than once. They always look stunned and say, "Oh!" as if they didn't know I was headed their way. I do not have an invisibility cloak, so I'm sure I'm visible. It's amazing to me how utterly oblivious they are to anyone but themselves.
How is this a gender unique issue? Women and mixed groups do this all the time also. But yes like other commenters said, I like to stop and stare at them too.
it's not gender unique, I also remember getting elbowed really hard in the face by a popular girl at school, because I, her "inferior" being that I was unpopular and viciously bullied, should have recognised my inferiority and got out of her way, and when I didn't, she responded with physical violence, because how DARE I think she should even slightly move for me instead of just getting out of her way. but, in public, I do find it's mostly men that assume you'll move around them. not always, but mostly.
Load More Replies...one thing I've done lately is stopped getting out of peoples way, like I'm less important than them. when people walk right at me, as they often do. I just stand there. I don't move anymore. don't get me wrong, I'm still aware of people around me, I've just stopped assuming I'M the one in the way. it's different if you're walking towards someone, and you both move to opposite sides of a space to pass each other, or end up doing the accidental dance where you both keep changing direction and blocking each other. but it's the ones that just walk right at you assuming you'll move that I WILL NOT move for anymore. if they bump into me, fine. their fault if I'm standing still. they always look so offended. it's hilarious.
Men and women and mixed groups all do this. The larger the group the less likely they are to be polite on a sidewalk.
Also, shouting red rover throws them off, because you see it as a game at that point
My favorite form of microfeminism is to bulldoze through life acting like I've never even heard of sexism or like I've never received the messaging that I need to play it small in order to avoid upsetting others. You will be shooketh when you realize how well this works because a lot of modern sexism is upheld by women's willingness to censor and shrink themselves in order to avoid being confronted, challenged, or corrected in any way.
Many of us are taught from a young age that the worst thing that you can do is upset or disappoint somebody outside of you. But when you walk into a room with confidence and authority and like God herself sent you and you don't care what anybody thinks about you, you'd be surprised how many people will just fall in line.
Because a lot of people depend on women to take the first step of censoring and shrinking themselves so they don't have to be the jerk and do it for them. In fact, what I've learned in my personal experience is that most people are not willing to confront, correct, or challenge me because I moved through the world in this way.
Because I moved through the world acting like I've never received this messaging. In fact, most people learn pretty quickly that the best way to deal with me is to get out of my way. So go forth. Be oblivious, my loves. You will not be sorry.
I joined the Navy right out of high school and this was what I had to learn. It's served me well through the years.
some of the jobs I've had are not generally considered to be for women; basically had to bulldoze my way through (& of course, work harder to 'prove' myself). I might not qualify as a fullsize bulldozer, but being a little bobcat has served me well!
maybe its because of where i work... but we have a lot more women in the office than men. it's a mix of men and women throughout all managerial and director positions... it's very equal, and everyone opinions are considered.
My favorite thing to do back when I was much younger was to ask "why can't a girl (be the president of the photography club, run the fundraiser, act as security etc...)" and watch them stammer over the answer.
In many households, it's common for people to assume that the women will keep the house clean and tidy. Even if both partners work full-time jobs, it's often the woman who takes on the majority of the housework, including cleaning, laundry, and cooking. As per the Gender Equality Index 2021 Report by the European Institute for Gender Equality (EIGE), employed women spend an average of 2.3 hours per day on housework, while working men dedicate about 1.6 hours to household chores. Asking men questions like "Did you clean all this by yourself?" reinforces the stereotype that cleaning is primarily a woman's responsibility.
I like to always notice when people use passive language to describe actions that men have taken against women. So often you'll notice this if someone gets followed home, then they'll just say it like that. My friend got followed home or my friend got harassed at a bar, when, in fact, the unsaid is that a MAN harassed your friend at a bar. A MAN followed your friend home.
And by taking the man out of the sentence, you are basically just leaving the unsaid that it is a man to be normalized. Because if a woman followed your friend home, that would be the first thing that you said. Like, "Oh my God, a woman followed my friend home. That's so weird."
Like, "Oh, this woman was harassing my friend." And the fact that it's so normalized that we can use the passive tone and know what's happening shouldn't be normal.
"Violence against women" instead of "men who are violent toward women."
And then come up with “well women rape too!”
Load More Replies...Reminds me of this that I read a few years ago. The bit that hit hard was "Even the term VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN is problematic, it's a passive construction.... it shifts the focus off men and boys and onto women and girls" PHOTO-2020...4b0a06.jpg
Right?! I think this is part of women's conditioning to always take the blame when men target them, too. it's definitely something to be aware of.
So true, works the same with white people. It’s always Black this that and the other, Latinos, Asians but rarely white when it’s a negative occurrence especially. So now when people identify white criminals, white people yell “reverse racism”.also, look how white crime is described by background to not say white, I.e. Italian mob, Irish mob, Russian mobs against the Eastern front, Dixie mafia, Serbians, Czechs, motorcycle gangs, militia, and all this is in the states not Europe!
My daughter had a stalker harassing her all through her senior year of college and we had to stress that it was a woman every time it was reported because security always assumed it was a man. But it was this small, innocent looking woman who was in actuality quite feral and frightening
Whenever a man calls me like, sweetie or darling or gorgeous, I will call them THAT back.
I honestly wonder if the sex/gender really matters here. Bc if a person adresses me inappropriately I will ask to refrain from that. (I don't mean to be rude, so if I'm missin something specific here, I'm happy to hear about it :) )
I think the piece you might be missing is that many women have experienced being called "sweetie", etc, in a demeaning and/or inappropriate fashion everywhere from a stranger on the street to a superior at work. Those terms are used sometimes by men with relative power to make women feel almost like children. When you fire it back on them and they get unsettled, it's because they knew on some level that their use of the word was belitting, and they're startled to be made uncomfortable with a reminder of how those words can feel from the other side of the table.
Load More Replies...This has come up before here and I've pointed out that these terms can be regional customs. In parts of the south (US) darlin' is not unusual at all.
That would make me smile. I was at a restaurant and, throughout the meal, the wait person, who was a woman, referred to me as "sweetie", "honey, and " darlin'". Same thing at a bar that I used to frequent. Sometimes it's just a local thing and not meant as condescending, though, I do recognize that there are times that it is intended that way. "Bless your heart" 😉🖖
You will find that the men won't mind. Like, even a little. This is not the "own" you think this is.
I used to host regular conference calls for a team with two Steves. One day just jokingly, I told them that in order to cut confusion, I would call one “Peanut” and the other “Kitten.” They loved it. They started introducing themselves on calls with their new pet names, and signing emails with their new pet names. The other guys on the team wanted pet names, too. That year I got a Christmas card from Peanut, Kitten, Tater, Champ, and Sweet Pea.
Load More Replies...Call them baffling pet names that will make their brain reset in place. Like "muffin juice", "burrito supremo", "Tom Jones", "squeaker". Or go with the condescending standbys like "champ", or "slugger".
Sweetie doesn't seem to do much, but "princess"...oh man.
Load More Replies...I'm from the south. I don't care if you're 8 or 80, man or woman or anything in between I'm gonna call you sweetie, dear, darling, sweetheart, etc.
I'm from north US but I do the same 'xact thing, I think it adds extra personality and character and just makes you seem more interesting.
Load More Replies...Sweet pea. Not that it happens much these days. Partly because I'm an oldie, but partly because chaps seem to be be rather better informed
Load More Replies...When I'm in a position to be introducing people who are part of a couple, I always introduce the woman first, talk about her job, and then introduce the man as her husband or boyfriend or whatever. "Oh, have you met Dr. Jane? And this is her husband, John." That one always earns a smile from the women and kind of a baffled look from the men.
I can never remember anyone's name so I always get my husband to introduce himself first so I hear their name again.
Ooo smart, I am terrible with names. I'll know your dog's name, your cat's name but forgive me I just can't remember yours.
Load More Replies...I have known this to end up with arguments between the couple back home on two separate occasions. Also, I'll introduce someone by name (usually the one I know best first) and then their partner by name. I just leave off talking about jobs - I'm not into that scene. After someone has been introduced, that's a free-for-all for interrogations of all sorts, which I prefer to stay out of.
yeah, I hate that jobs are such a big part of small talk. I once saw a meme saying that one of the first things people ask you is what your job is, so they can decide how much respect to give you, and that rings very true. my husband can't work because of his disability, and I've SEEN the difference in how people talk to him as soon as he says he can't work. I think it's far more interesting to ask people about their hobbies, if they have any pets etc. it tells you a lot more about them and what makes them tick.
Load More Replies...At work, when female colleagues present an idea during a meeting, they might be interrupted and offered a detailed explanation of the same concept, as if they don't know what they are talking about. "Mansplaining is rarely intentionally vicious; it's far more likely to arise from a place of patronizing. Because the mansplainer assumes they know more, it increases the chances of viewing a co-worker as less knowledgeable and, thus, less competent," said Jessica McCall, Ph.D., an English professor at Delaware Valley University, in Pennsylvania.
Not asking women about their relationship status.
I assume women are single by choice in the same way that we assume men are single by choice. I had a grandmother who would grill everyone about their relationship status and it made me cringe, so I vowed that would never ever be me.
When asked I say I’m happily single. That’s unexpected and leaves no room to doubt that it’s my choice.
Had a doctor appointment for my mental health with a woman doctor and she told me i may be stressed because im a single mother, she just assumed.. Im married to my kids father, she really pis$ed me off...
Wait, do we assume that men are single by choice? I was rather under impression that, socially, "single man" = "immature looser"?
Depends on you social status and looks. Either you're indeed the immature looser, or the 'independent man who has overnight conquests and doesn't want to get attached'. For women it's usually (but that depends on your culture, at least in mine) 'all women want to have a family and children so if you're single: poor poor you, no prince charming has selected you'.
Load More Replies...I'm sorry, but making any assumption at all is ridiculous. Assuming that they are single by choice implies that this is important information, and it shouldn't be. Moreover, this is also a harmful assumption. I mean, the fact that they are single may be the result of a traumatic event and saying anything under that assumption can be very hurtful.
Whenever somebody comes to ask me if they can borrow some big strong boys to do something helpful around the school, I have always made it a point to send them some strong girls. Because usually the job is really fun, everybody wants to do it, and we all know that girls are just as capable of doing any job that a boy can do.
I still have a hangup about this, how “big strong boys” got to get out of class. I can lift things, it won’t cause hysteria
I once had this obnoxious Russian coworker lose his mind because I used a screwdriver to put a mailbox on the office door. He acted like I had just cured cancer. It was so insulting.
Load More Replies...Don’t assume that just because someone is male that they can move furniture/whatever. Men can have bad backs and not be physically strong etc too!
My friend once asked me if I can send out "the guys" and I asked what for. Turns out she wanted some cases of beer moved. I went out with her and moved the cases of beer. "These do not require masculine muscle."
Do Boys really have much more to go on compared to girls, before puberty anyway?
I'd say pretty equally matched. I was the fastest runner in elementary school. But by highschool the guys were faster, by a lot.
Load More Replies...I used to be a retail manager - although bio males average stronger than women it's foolish to think that even small bio females cant wrestle a few heavy boxes around... being weaker by comparison doesn't make them weak in the absolute sense. Bio males will all soon be replaced by robots and people in powered lifting suits anyway!
As one of the big strong boys I totally endorse this. Just because I am tall does not mean that you have to call me every time you need to move boxes of books or furniture. There are female athletes in the class who would be happy to do it, and I could stay here eating my snickers
when i was in primary school and a teacher came in asking this i'd put my hand up (I'm genderfluid but was fem presenting at the time lol) it was really funny cause I was actually probably stronger than most of the boys in my classes cause I did swim squad and martial arts every week
Oh I hate that. It's mostly just an excuse to be lazy. "I need strong boys to set up the chairs over there". (garden chairs. so heavy.) Or "I need a strong man to help me move my computer." (it was a laptop and a monitor)
If everyone is on the same level in a meeting, I will ask any follow-up meetings that need to be booked to be booked by a member of the team that is male.
Just because women typically get asked to do it all the time and it's just assumed, so I will go out of my way to ask one of the men on the team to book any follow-up meetings and to make sure that that all happens.
We just ask the one who brough a laptop or is logged into the pc in the meeting. Purposely asking men isn't the way to select who books it. Just take turns, or ask who wants to book it.
I dissagree. I have picked up a few key points in life - here's one! -------> I heard a Harvard (or was it MIT?) psychology department head say that, whenever they had a meeting to discuss a new appointment they would take a few minutes at the end to assess whether they had accidentally missed out any female or minority group candidates - because as experts in how the human mind works they knew that this might not have happened. Th4ey almost always came up with 1 or 2 prime candidates that have been left out - they knew that even their expertise did not stop them from doing this. SO... I suspect that following YOUR method would disproportionately result in a woman doing it.
Load More Replies...I did this, too. I, and my female colleagues, are not males secretaries, cleaning ladies, etc
In my old workplace I was single male with 8 female workers, and I was the only one asked to go upstairs and get new paper for the copy machine. I always asked why send me all the time, and they said, well, you are a man, easier for you to carry it!
Yeah, I think the issue is that when there's one person of a specific gender, the rest being of the other, that person is going to be asked some specific tasks for some unknown silly reasons. Like organise the 'retirement party' for the colleagues for the ladies (including the food), and go start the video projector for the males. I'm glad it doesn't work like that in my current office.
Load More Replies...I don’t know why it’s so hard to just treat people the same regardless of gender. I was under the assumption that ‘feminism’ meant that women should be treated the same way as men. A lot of these ‘examples’ just read like petty acts of revenge for centuries of being treated like 2nd class citizens. In this case, either rotate or choose someone that you know to be reliable. Having a clearly biased boss/manager is still going to breed resentment in male employees over time, just as the same is true for women with a biased male boss. A toxic workplace is still a toxic workplace regardless of what your boss does or doesn’t have between their legs.
You, completely, missed the topic of this post. Next you'll be saying, "not all men".
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I don't give body-specific compliments positively or negatively.
I grew up in a family with a lot of men and this is something that I've actually learned that men do a lot. A lot of times when they see somebody has made improvements to their health, their compliments are like, "You look great, bro, like you look really strong," and so I thought of giving compliments to women in a similar way and saying, "You're really glowing, you look really radiant." Even if they've happened to lose a lot of weight. But I'm not affirming that the weight loss is the thing that made them beautiful, but like that they're beautiful and maybe they happened to lose weight. I don't know. Maybe they changed their skincare. It could be anything.
"Oh, you lost so much weigh, you look great" - "Have you just told me that I was fat and ugly?" Also, so many negative things can result in weight loss (depression, major diseases) it's really not a good idea to bring it up in a casual talk as something unequivocally good.
I always learned to compliment things that aren't a physical characteristic because it puts too much emphasis on our outer selves and not as much on our inner selves. So, I will say: "I love the way you said that - you have such a good way with words." "Or those colours look great on you - you always seem to have an eye for what looks good on you." "You're an excellent cook and always make me feel so relaxed when I'm at your place."
Yes, I go out of my way to not compliment loss or gain. You're looking happy, your skin is glowing etc. Compliment the color of clothing not the fit.
My Mom would do this after I had a non-weight related stomach surgery. I lost maybe 5-10lbs and was really cold. She would get all happy and say I’m cold because of the weight loss. I had to repeatedly tell her that NO it’s because it’s Summer time and for some reason that prompts Dad to crank up the AC and your house becomes a freezer.
Be vary. A man in my family lost 10 kg and it suited him, so I was pleased, until he lost another 40 kg and looked terrible. And only then his doctor thought to get him tested properly. Turned out his pancreas had stopped working.
Commenting on appearance, even obliquely, isn't a good idea. Ask them something pertinent to the reason you're meeting. Keep personal views to yourself. That glowing radiance might be the beginning of a fever.
My male friends definitely do tell each other stuff like that though 😂 your tiny, individual, personal experience doesn’t dictate how life is for the other 8 billion of us, fyi.
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If somebody says I have to talk to the board, or I have to talk to the chairperson of the board, or I have to talk to the CEO or CFO or whoever, I will say "Let me know what she says." Always "she." Like, my default is she or her instead of he or him. Obviously, unless I know the person and I know that it's a man. I don't go out of my way to be wrong.
Hearing she in these circumstances can be jarring and some people will realize they default to he and might make the change. Correcting with they, or pointing out could be a she I find isn't as helpful as it can create defensiveness. Where as the jarring feeling can be more profound and effective.
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On every rental application and lease we've ever had, I've put myself as the primary contact, and every time a real estate or a tradesperson gets in contact and defers to my partner, I make him then re-loop me in.
Like when sky rang because our internet wasnt working and i got asked to put the bill payer on the phone, yes that be me 🙈 think they ment the account holder but that be me also as its in mine and hubbys name.. was a nice way of telling me to put hubby on phone
A study from the Harvard Business Review showed that female Supreme Court justices are more frequently interrupted by their male counterparts and advocates during oral arguments compared to their male peers. Such incidents undermine a woman’s expertise and contribution to the discussions at work.
In this situation, a microfeminist action would be for others to let the female justice speak without interruption. This not only lets them have a chance to fully participate but also gives them the same respect and attention as their male counterparts.
When I'm at work and I am speaking to an owner-level CEO, high-level individual, oftentimes a man, and they will give me no handshake at all.
Literally last week, it was a high level, he shook my husband's hand, but not mine. I called him back to shake my hand and then he did and it was a bad handshake and then I made him redo it.
I'm not sure how this helps, but I know if this would happen it would infuriate me. My ex and me once went looking for new windowsills (is that the word?) and the salesman was talking to my ex about all the technicalities. Then he turned to me and said: And it's very easy to clean with just green soap! (That is the moment he lost the sale).
Took on a loan to buy a half million flat, my banker of 20 years kept addressing my boyfriend, even though he wasn't buying the flat, wasn't taking the loan, and wasn't even a client of the bank. Went to the competition.
Load More Replies...YES! I once got complemented by my girlfriend because a colleague's (large breasted) girlfriend told her that I was the only man she knew that looked her in the eyes when talking to her... I mean the bar is just set way to low am I right!?
I thought the pandemic took care of handshaking but to add another layer of old-fashioned habits - many men are still not sure whether or not to shake a woman's hand - some do, some don't - so if you want to shake hands, then offer your hand first.
I, too, had hoped that we had dispensed with handshakes after 2020. But alas, no. The worst handshake is the "boneless" handshake that men often give women. It feels like I am squeezing a bag of frozen fruit left on the counter all day. And it's perfectly gross.
Load More Replies...Shake everyone's hand. That's professional. If they decline to shake hands then so be it, nothing wrong with it.
I really wish we did away with the handshaking. It's kind of ridiculous.
One should also be aware of cultural nuances. In some cultures and religious sects, men and women are not permitted to touch. So demanding specifically a handshake can be a cultural faux pas. On the other hand (pun intended), there are ways of respectfully acknowledging somebody without a handshake.
I once went to sign a lease and hand over a considerable sum in cash. I took a male friend with me who had nothing to do with the lease (he was just there as I didn’t want to go on my own with so much cash). The leaser shook his hand but refused to shake mine in religious grounds. I was furious. 20 years later I still am. If hand shaking is not allowed for one sex, you should not offer your hand to the other, especially if they are not the one doing business with you.
Load More Replies...Then there is the HR class and legal departments telling him to never a woman for any reason, especially as he is in a senior position. I'm with the other poster that said if you (a woman) is OK with any kind of contact, you need to make it clear. It's an unfortunate side effect from the actions of men that led to the me too movement.
Point is Business is Business. In the Western world, either you shake everyone's hands, or you don't at all. Don't be upset, us women didn't make the rule.
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I'm a waitress, and my form of microfeminism is every time someone pays a check, I give it to the woman. And then the guy just looks at me all weird.
Just put it in the middle of the table or hand it over to the closest person. I don't see the feminism there. We adults can figure out who gets to pay the bill.
You don't know where this person's from so you don't know the social attitude - this could be overt feminism in a lot of areas.
Load More Replies...My husband once pointed out that every time we go to dinner he is always the one who gets handed the check. I hadn't even realized. Now I make it a point to take the check. Joint account so doesn't matter, but it's the point of it.
you know in todays society this doesn't really work anymore... there are more and more men who do not give a flying f**k who pays the bill... and if anything you might be putting the woman in an awkward position. what if it was agreed upon that the man would pay; maybe this is a birthday supper, maybe its to celebrate something.... again you're just being a douche for no reason. put it in the middle of the table like a normal person.
not been in this line of work, but I would give it to whoever asked if they could have the bill.
i think this puts most women in a weird position because often they dont want to pay for the check on a date so handing them the check means they need to hand it over again making it more awkward. i wish girls would take the check and immediately just pay but never works that way in my experience.
My favorite form of microfeminism is that when I send an email, let's say to like a CEO, and you have to copy their assistant for scheduling purposes, if the assistant is a female, I will always enter their email address before the CEO's. So if like the CEO was Bob and the assistant is a female named Jane, I'm always going to put Jane and then the CEO. Like nobody probably notices, but it makes me feel like I see you. Another thing that I do, kind of along the same lines, is if I'm emailing a team, I will always address the woman first in the actual email. So I'll be like, "Hey Kathy and Joe."
I always do it by alphabetical order (first name). Removes any hierarchy
that sounds so excessive! how much time do you spend going over it?
Load More Replies...The recipient goes into the to: field and the assistant goes into the cc: field - regardless of genders.
Yeah. And I order the email address by hierarchy, like boss is first, their second is second.... And if they're the same position, alphabetical. Same in the cc line, by hierarchy and then alphabetically.
Load More Replies...Just silly, pointless and poor use of communication media. In that scenario you should be using cc to whichever one is not the actual target of your communication. If you're talking to the admin to arrange something then you may just cc the CEO so s/he's kept in the loop, if your email to the CEO just contains a couple of things that the admin may need to be aware of, then vice versa. And it should be the same regardless of the respective genders of CEO and assistant.
The one who needs to take action as a result of the email should definitely come first. For the boss it's just an fyi.
If someone sends me an email starting with 'Hey...', I would ignore or delete. It is a wholly impolite form of address and I am not a horse.
I 100% do this. I work in academia and these little things matter.
I always send to the assistant and cc their boss because usually the assistant is way more on top of things.
Casually making unsolicited comments about a woman’s body is also not acceptable on any occasion. Imagine you are attending a family wedding and your aunt comments on your weight, saying things like, "You've put on some kgs, haven't you?" in front of other relatives. Not only does this make you feel embarrassed but also self-conscious. We should refrain from commenting on women's bodies, whether it's to give positive or negative compliments.
Playdates. I'm making a point to schedule as much playdate time as possible. A lot of times I'm dealing with other moms. Moms of other children.
But I force the dads to be involved. I'll text them first. I'll email them first. If I run into them, I say, "Hey, here's my number. Let's set something up for our kids."
I hate the wording here and will probably get down voted but "force the dads" by texting them? How about asking both parents or the parent that is there with said child/children "hey, can I contact you both and set up something for our kids?" Otherwise, it could turn into a Reddit story.
Yeah, no to this. I make sure if there's two parents in the picture, that they are in a group text with me so that I'm texting both of them.
Load More Replies...Germany's pretty progressive in terms of fathers being very involved with childcare but this is one area where there is room for improvement. I am added to the WhatsApp chats for birthdays and kindergarten, even though my husband is the one who takes our son to kindergarten every day. I'm also the only one in the WhatsApp chats for school for our daughter. I've tried changing things, and they are - slowly - but this is still certainly the default.
Me too! I keep asking the dads questions like “where did you buy that jacket from? Looks functional.” and “is Jane available for playdate next Wednesday?” Some of them actually can even answer the questions. I used to ask my husband things like “what did you get for [child’s friend] birthday gift and when he replies “I didn’t know it was my task”, I reply “well who’s then? It’s day after tomorrow and we haven’t talked about it yet.” Now we speak more about tasks like this.
Dad here. Gald to be included. Thank you for that. No need to force me. But definitely we should set something up
My husband is a SAHD and has tried for years to join stay at home parent groups and schedule playdates for our kids. These groups were all exclusively made up of women. Let's just say a lot of the moms have been less than enthusiastic about making him feel welcome. And part of me gets it; there are men who would definitely try to infiltrate a moms' group just to be skeevy. But my husband genuinely just wanted to find friends for our kids and it upset him that he was met with constant suspicion and not really included in the chatting at the playground. He did eventually find one group for dads in our area, but there weren't many members and they weren't very active.
We don't live in 1950s American suburbia. Women work too.
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If we're in a group and a man and a woman talk at the same time, I am 100 percent going to listen to the woman.
Dunno about you, but I am absolutely incapable of doing that. It's sometimes very very awkward in parties, at the restaurant etc, if the people next to me are just a little bit loud, I will be absolutely incapable of focusing on what my interlocutor is telling me, and stare in the void. Brain automatically tries to pick up on both conversation and is confused and ends up understanding none of them. I hate when it happens.
I have this - for me it’s a mix of ADD and auditory processing disorder. If more than one person is talking - or if someone is talking during the movie 😡 it all just becomes inaudible and I can’t pick up on any of it.
Load More Replies...I can't help but think: does this count as (micro)feminism? Because here the men are basically excluded. (Again, honestly: If I miss something here, please let me know.)
No, you right. This one counts as (micro)sexism by definition.
Load More Replies...This should really depend on the situation and each speaker's personality. If one is a douche and the other is nice, I'll listen to the nice one, regardless of gender. Or I would just straight up say, "Whoa, one at a time, please!" 😖
I always use female-identifying language.
So if you're telling me you went to the doctor: "What did she say?"
"Oh, you've been consulting with your lawyer. How did she advise you?"
So do I, it works just fine. And yet some people get so worked up by the use of 'they' as a pronoun for someone LGBT!
Load More Replies...YES! I do this too, especially around my young children. Like if we see a bug on the sidewalk they want to pick up I'll say something like "oh let's be very gentle with her!" I default to female for everything.
I used to work with a woman who'd told me that she'd regularly used female-identifying language with her 5-year old son. For example, whenever they were in the car and see a person working high up on a telephone pole, road construction, or any other job, whether or not she could tell that the person was a man, she'd say something like: "Look, son, there's a woman up there doing maintenance on the telephone pole." or "Look, there's a woman driving that bulldozer." She then told me that she must've done it too often because one day her son asked her, "mommy, don't any men do these jobs, too?"
I say he or she instinctively depending on the job to be honest. Then the person corrects and we're good.
I think that's the issue OP was pointing out. Making a pronoun assumption based on the job is in itself sexist. Teacher? Librarian? Nurse? Must be a woman. Plumber? Lawyer? Doctor? Must be a man. That mindset is literally the problem.
Load More Replies...Not any other, but many. Sometimes I'm really annoyed that I can't use something like "they" in my first language.
Load More Replies...Other instances include assuming that all women have motherly instincts, thinking girls love the color pink or accusing a woman of being a bad driver. Change begins at the grassroots level. And changing how we perceive and respond to these small, unintentional acts of misogyny can make a big difference. What are your thoughts on “microfeminisms”? Do you currently practice it, or do you plan to start now?
When I've just had a baby and when people come to my house, like a man and a woman or like relatives or whatever, I will always thrust my baby in the direction of the man first. So I'll be like, "Can you hold my baby while I have a shower or something?"
Because women are always holding babies. We always expect it. So men can get used to it.
We are child free by choice if someone thrust a child at us, when it wasn't an emergency neither of us would like it.
How is it even related ? You are child free means you cannot hold a baby ? I have no pets, means i cannot hold / pet a cat ?
Load More Replies...I think this is a good thing, but not in the weaponized way that OP suggest, but since a lot of men get to hear that kids are not for them when growing up. There are loads of men that would love to hold your baby, but won't ask since it's "inappropriate".
I'm childfree but I always want to hold babies! Feel free to pass them my way. :) I used to be a professional nanny, so I'm good with kids.
so you use your baby as a prop? what if they are very uncomfortable and haven't held a baby before? you do know there are people out there that are scared of holding a baby.... you're a bad mother for using your child as a political point.
I was scared sh1tless to hold a baby before I learned to hold my own. It was more I was afraid of dropping the baby.
Load More Replies...Yeah, I would directly say " NOpe, not touching it!". That is, if I ever get into that situation in the first place.
Same. I'm not touching those, not sorry. 🤮 (Edit, just in case: I'm a woman)
Load More Replies...I don't feel like this totally stems from sexism though. People have always been more trusting of women than men when it comes to children, and do I really need to elaborate on that? Also, this can be straight up unsafe for the baby or disrespectful to the other person (man or woman).
I would love that. I'll take that baby any time. Interestingly, though, women are physically built to hold children more easily. It became obvious when our kid was a toddler, that I was actually strengthening the muscles in my upper arms and shoulders far more than my wife was, since she could balance our kid on her hips, while I had to rely on just holding them. So when you're handing your baby to a man, you are actually doing them a favor by helping them exercise...
Some of these assume a little aggressively. I wouldn't shove my baby at anyone of any gender without first asking if they wanted to hold them. I definitely wouldn't ask them to *watch* the baby while I went off and did something unless it had already been discussed that they were coming over with that intention in mind.
Some people are revolted by them... and never touched one in their life - so why not ask who will hold it? Or is accidentally f****n@ it up not possible?
I literally got comments on when I was printing stuff for my wedding. I always list the woman's name first. In my head I just think of it like we're entering a room and guess what? Ladies first.
Old fashioned etiquette for addressing invitations is to note the woman’s name first. Doesn’t apply with for all couples so it’s not relevant anymore.
Don't agree with this. It seems to me the old fashioned way was: 'Mr. & Mrs. John Smith.' Definitely sexist and thankfully gone.
Load More Replies...I for one would choose the best sounding order if I had to make wedding cards. If it makes no real difference, then it would a random choice.
If you want to be precise, there are some rooms when men enter first (mostly for safety) and some rooms when women enter first (etiquette). However, that was largely dependent on doormakers/builders using correct type of doors so that is possible - if the door are opening inwards and have strong self-closing mechanism, it is really awkward to reach around and hold them open if you are letting someone in first... So in thst case I go first and then hold the door open, because to me, that is the point.
If a woman says something in an email, like they do some research and they have an opinion on something, and I think it's right, but I think more needs to get added, I will say, "I think Jessica's 100 percent right. This is correct." I'll affirm and then continue. But like, if a man says it, I'll just say, "I want to add," and I'll just go into whatever I'm going to add. And I think that part is just important because it's important to like, cement, especially for women, to like, boost confidence and just be like, "Hey, they're f**king right. They're f**king smart and they're f**king right."
Sorry, but that's bad management. You need to be fair with all colleagues. Clearly not all men are confident. Just do what you say with over-confident employees, and support the less confident or more junior staff.
May I introduce you to the concept of affirmative action? I'm old, I have been discriminated against because of my gender. Women are still not heard. Acceptance of the status quo allows it to remain.
Load More Replies...how about just be a good boss and manage your people properly. this is why people like you shouldn't be in positions like that. and notice i said people... no woman, not man, people. you are a person and human first and foremost, and you are not a nice one.
How is this doing the women a favour? OP is giving men *better* feedback than women- if she thinks "more needs to get added" to something in a woman's email, but says it's great, you're not helping their professional development and you're coddling them. It might just be me, but that doesn't sound like great feminism to me???
I, like, never, ever want to, like, email, or, like, text, or, like, speak with this, like, person who, like, likes “like” everywhere. I’d strangle her in no time flat, and people around her who hafta listen to her “liking” everything will be muy grateful.
If I compliment a man on his shirt, I love to say, "Ooh, I love that top."
They always look so confused, like, "What, thank you for complimenting me, but also, huh? This is a shirt."
Right, cos a man is going to be really confused and upset by you referring to his shirt as a top. Now if you called it a blouse it would have some effect, sure, but would 90% of the time be taken as being petty or snide, even as an insult and not a genuine compliment.
Hmm we need to do an experiment with the "Alphas". Record their response to each word lol.
Load More Replies...well we don't recieve that many compliments. i can recall 2 in the last 10 years.
To be fair, for a large percentage of men, using "top" is a safe way to identify that piece of fabric... Is it a shirt? Is it a blouse? Is it a camisole? Is it something I have not ever heard about?
"What, thank you for complimenting me, but also, huh? This is a shirt." how many... how many actually have said this to you? be honest cause the answer is probably 1 guy, 1 time, and now you do it every time expecting this reaction and you get mad when they just say "thanks"... not all men give a c**p about things like this.
Again, the post seems to have gone over pandas heads. It seems not to be a good day for comprehension. This post is about referring to a man’s shirt as a “top,” a word usually used for women’s shirts.
Isn't this 99% that men are stupid and don't know what to call things, so they try to conform as best they can?
Sometimes in the lift, if a man is waiting for me to go, I also stand and wait for him to go.
Indeed, this has nothing to do with feminism but common courtesy. You let the ones who are nearest the doors off first.
Load More Replies...I was driving in a parking lot and 3 male pedestrians were waiting to cross the street. I stopped and waved them across. Two began crossing and the third kept waving me on. Um, hello, there are now 2 people in the road, just f*****g cross already. Stop trying to be polite; you're being a nuisance.
ok so what you want me to do is be selfish and not hold the door for you even though you're close to getting on?
I had to comment on this because this also goes with holding a door open ... IDGAF if you're a man or woman, if I feel like it, I'm holding the door for you ... and I'm saying "you're welcome" whether you thank me or not ...
I really like this one! If we want to overcome sexism and an outdated image of politeness, one way is to turn the corresponding "rules" around until they are like neutralized. Like in this example "ladies first", which still seems to be common practice for some. Be kind to everybody and don't exclude. (Btw: Nothing wrong to let a woman go first. But only because we are equals and I want to be nice to everybody. Not because some rules of etiquette.)
When I lived in the north (US) I stopped dong things like holding doors for women because I was just as likely to get a dirty look as a thank you. Now I live in the south (again, US). People are much more polite here. It's very common to offer to let someone else go first, especially women.
You'll get whacked with a cane if you don't hold the door for an elderly woman down here though lol 🤭 (south US). Speak from experience...In my defense, she was around a corner by the door and couldn't see her at all.
Load More Replies... When I send an email, my natural impulse is to say, "Hey, just checking in."
"Hey, just checking on that brief."
And I always delete the "just" and say, "Hey, checking in. Give me the brief."
It's the use of 'just' to take up even less space or inconvenience of an ask. Being to the point isn't rude, but taking out the 'just' for reaching out and asking for an update also removes the implication of being a nuisance.
this: "Hey, just checking in." "Hey, just checking on that brief.".... sounds forced. like you are patronizing me. ""Hey, checking in. Give me the brief."".... this is good.
You know how the art that men like is seen as universal and the art that women like is seen as girly? Well, my form of microfeminism is addressing girly music or TV or movies as the norm, while whatever men like is niche and unknown.
What's 'art that men like' and 'art that women like' ? Genuinely asking. I think Britney Spears, Katy Perry and Taylor Swift are quite universal at this stage.
Men and the art world usually like and promote art by men. Women artists routinely get backlash and harassment.
Load More Replies...Dafuq are YOU talking about? Friends aren’t mentioned in this post.
Load More Replies...If I'm on an email with a bunch of people who do not outrank each other, obviously, this is like, if there's not a secretary, not an assistant, anything like that, and someone has to send like a calendar invite or a Zoom invite or something like that, I will, um, ask the men in the group to send it, or like a specific man in the group, like, "Hey John, do you mind sending that?"
If a male and female student in my class either raise their hands at the same time or begin speaking at the same time in the course of a discussion, and this happens a lot, um, I will kind of pause them and say, "Oh, I can only hear one of you at a time."
And I'll ask the female student to go first.
You should let the shyest (or less participative) one first. I had very shy, yet very smart male students who often didn't dare participate, so I let them first as a way to encourage them. Otherwise they'll politely put their hand down and won't raise it again.
May, get over yourself with telling women to stop using their clever interactions. Or maybe you're a man and you just want to hassle women?
Load More Replies...Oh, I do not like this at all! While she does not specify age range theis sounds like the sort of thing you might say to fairly young kids. these little boys are definitely going to notice that their teacher favors the girls. And the only thing they are likely to learn from it is there is no point in them trying to participate in class.
um um um um um um um um um um.... like, you know you don't like, need to write the way you, um, talk, right... jesus christ these are getting worse as the list goes on
Anytime you're being told a story or someone recounts an article or something that happened and doesn't identify the gender of the main character of that story, like:
"Oh hey, did you see that drunk driver crash into the hospital?"
"Oh my god, what was his name?"
"Did you hear about that firefighter that saved three kids?"
"Oh my god, she sounds incredible, that's great, good for her."
That would sound incredibly strange in my mother tongue.
Load More Replies...So, if it´s something bad, it was a guy, but if it was good, it was a woman? Isn´t that called sexism?
This isn't one that I get to engage in anymore, because I left working for the federal government to teach a couple of years ago. But when I did work for Uncle Sam, part of my job had me dealing with minors, and I had to verify parental relationships, confirm parental identity, and get parental consent.
And in cases where the parents were both a man and a woman, I always spoke directly to mom. I also documented her paperwork first on forms and got her signature first.
Not sure about this. This is "default parent is mom, eventhough DAD is listed as the one to be called when things happen, school still calls mom."
yeah most people would default to the mom. in fact to make a point you should have spoken to the dad.
This just seems kinda sexist. The dad is no less of a parent than the mom.
See, I always find it a bit annoying that doctors and the like automatically address me more than my husband when discussing our kids. When my son got stitches, the doctor directed me to sit next to him to comfort him without even looking at my husband. I don't need them to pick one us; it's a simple question: "Who'd like to sit next to him?" Or, better yet, ask our son. Just making these things a conversation instead of an assumption would address the problem. Inverting the assumption is just you making a different assumption that could be just as wrong.
I'm a server in a restaurant, and if a man and a woman come in together, and they're like, "We're just gonna split this one thing," when I bring the food out, I put the full plate of food in front of the woman, and I put an empty plate in front of the man. And then I say, "This is for if she decides to share with you. Enjoy your lunch, sweetie."
The problem with this is you're asking the woman to be mom and portion out the food. And she'll skimp on her own portion. Just put it in the middle.
This is blatant sexism. Are we going for EQUALITY? Equal. Put that food in the middle
you're a d**k. and the woman at the table probably doesn't appreciate what you did.
Wow, really rude of the waiter. They already said they split, so put in the middle of the table.
Don't call me sweetie or any other pet name if you do not know me. You are actually showing you are disregarding my preference and therefore me. Most of these are just ridiculous.
My wife would love to have a word with her if she did all of this to us. lol
Load More Replies...I respect not defaulting to putting the food in front of the man (which is a thing), but the comment is cheeky, didn’t need to add it.
Feminism is NOT about putting men down, what a lot of these acts are apparently.
Some of them are just rude, or evidence a lack of teaching or management skills. Which would cement the idea that women are poor managers in the workplace, and that's really not what we want.
Load More Replies...Today I learned that microfeminism exists and it's apparently nothing more than small and petty acts that do nothing whatsoever.
Some of these are very petty but I found that some of them make sense. This list was all over the place though, some people are confusing feminism with misandry.
Load More Replies...Many examples were about diminishing the man, not empowering the women. There were some that were, though. And some that raised more awareness to an issue - women being more interrupted or ideas being stolen, is more common and people who do that aren't aware of it. But it should not be solved gender-specific. Just if someone interrupts someone else, call them out on it. Same as idea stealing.
TIL that to some people, feminism means not trying to fix the problem, but just reversing it
I have a problem with most of these and with racial/religious issues as well - I want equality. Equality means: same rules apply to ALL. It isn't about turning tables and stepping on whoever is on the other side of the equation. I am not here to belittle or emasculate anyone. I refuse to promote bigotry or sexism no matter what coat it wears - in this case, feminism. Many of the posters above are petty.
I used to work in a hardware store, and SO MANY (usually older) men would not let me help them. They would straight-up ask, “Isn’t there a man here who could help me?” So I would smile at them, “Sure, no problem,” then go & get for them the most useless guy working that day.
Feminism is NOT about putting men down, what a lot of these acts are apparently.
Some of them are just rude, or evidence a lack of teaching or management skills. Which would cement the idea that women are poor managers in the workplace, and that's really not what we want.
Load More Replies...Today I learned that microfeminism exists and it's apparently nothing more than small and petty acts that do nothing whatsoever.
Some of these are very petty but I found that some of them make sense. This list was all over the place though, some people are confusing feminism with misandry.
Load More Replies...Many examples were about diminishing the man, not empowering the women. There were some that were, though. And some that raised more awareness to an issue - women being more interrupted or ideas being stolen, is more common and people who do that aren't aware of it. But it should not be solved gender-specific. Just if someone interrupts someone else, call them out on it. Same as idea stealing.
TIL that to some people, feminism means not trying to fix the problem, but just reversing it
I have a problem with most of these and with racial/religious issues as well - I want equality. Equality means: same rules apply to ALL. It isn't about turning tables and stepping on whoever is on the other side of the equation. I am not here to belittle or emasculate anyone. I refuse to promote bigotry or sexism no matter what coat it wears - in this case, feminism. Many of the posters above are petty.
I used to work in a hardware store, and SO MANY (usually older) men would not let me help them. They would straight-up ask, “Isn’t there a man here who could help me?” So I would smile at them, “Sure, no problem,” then go & get for them the most useless guy working that day.
