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Memories make for a risky foundation: as events recede further and further into the past, the facts get distorted or augmented by entirely new details. So we have to keep ourselves in check! And there's a thread on Reddit that's perfect for that.

It started with the question "What historical inaccuracy is still taught often?" and people have been sending in their replies ever since it was posted. From famous people's lives to wars and government decisions, here are those that have received the most upvotes.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time That Mother Teresa was a saint but in reality she was a racist money loader. Information about this topic can be found even from the New York Times archives.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She also let sick people suffer, convinced that they were suffering for their sins and pain would give them redemption.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time Tuskegee experiment.

The government did not inject men with syphilis, they took men who already had syphilis, and pretended to treat them so they could study how it ravaged the body over time left untreated.

Still just as cruel though.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And then they denied people the proper treatment once treatment was discovered just so they could see what would happen

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That the loss of the American colonies was a devastating blow to the British. As an American, I was taught this multiple times. In reality, the loss of the Revolutionary War was a minor blip in British history. The loss of India and Singapore after WW2 was a devastating blow. But the British didn’t and still don’t care about the loss of the 13 colonies.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The general view in Britain of the American colonies at the time of the Revolution seems to have bee that yes, they have their uses, but they really are becoming a dreadful nuisance. If the Americans had been prepared to wait 15 - 25 years, Britain would have probably gladly let them go, no fighting necessary.

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Generally when it comes to the slave movement in the United States most people have the impression that slavers just went over and kidnapped the natives, which although did happen, wasn't the only way slaves were acquired. Quite a lot of slaves were actually bought from African chiefs, who'd sell their own and captured people to the Slavers.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time There's definitely this thought process that normal Germans (and Poles, Austrians, Hungarians, etc) didn't know about the camps at all during the holocaust that gets pushed as fact in schools, which is b******t. The concept of the goings on at a KZ was absolutely something people knew. When my grandfather was growing up it was normal to 'hire' people from Dachau satellite camps to build fences or work in fields or whatever. The industrialization process and scale of it was news to them, for sure, but if something happened to you and you were sent to a KZ, everyone knew it was a death sentence, and you were going to be forced into labor until you died. By the time 1944 rolled around they were pretty aware of the gas chambers too, though most people didn't believe it.

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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My grandma was a teen and young adult in Nazi Germany. She said "Everybody who says they didn't know is lying." Even though she agrees most didn't know about literal death camps, but they were aware that work camps were really really bad and most people died there.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time That only Europeans were colonizers or imperialists.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People really should understand this one by now, and I think the majority actually do so, but the done thing is to pretend they have no idea what you are talking about. Take South Africa. The original inhabitants were largely peaceful. No, I'm not talking about the people who were segregated and underwent the horrors of apartheid. I'm talking about the tribes that the ancestors of the people who underwent apartheid killed. The original inhabitants were wiped out by the more warlike tribe of the Bantu which spread down the coast, killing and enslaving other tribes as they went. Then, the Europeans showed up with superior technology and weapons and did the same to them. Point this out though and you get called every type of bad person synonym in the book.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time That Native Americans were one homogenous group who all agreed upon who could live on which bit of land and always had peaceful arrangements with one another before the Europeans arrived. In actuality, there was tribal warfare often. Culturally, there was so much variety. People should learn more about the Cahokians who were unique in that they built a city rather than just a village or being nomads.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just think about how huge the North American Continent is and how different the landscape is. Of course native people living won't be an homogeneous group!

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#8

For some reason, people still seem to think that Marie Antoinette said, "Let them eat cake," when she said no such thing. History has not treated her well.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time My mother and all her siblings were taught at a Catholic school that men have one less rib than women and that's to origin of the Adam and Eve story. Completely untrue. Men and women have the same number of ribs.

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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason that the Adam and Eve story is told that way even though all humans have the same number of ribs is that it was the cleaned up version of a nsfw myth that was around the Middle East at the time. This myth was meant to explain why certain rodents, dogs, monkeys, and other mammals have a bone in their penis (The baculum) but humans don’t. Where did this bone go? This myth was originally a way to explain it that later got cleaned up.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time That Napoleon was very short. He was slightly taller than an average Frenchman of his time. Around 168-170 cm. It was English propaganda. He was also often surrounded by his Imperial Guard who used to be a  lot taller. Still, alot shorter than average Europeans these days.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please covert that to how many bananas... 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time I don´t know if this is still up-to-date, but my history teacher always pointed out it was often falsely taught that the pyramids and temples of the ancient egyptian period were build by slaves. They were build by respected people that helped voluntrily.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, there was whole communities of skilled labourers, artisans, and 'technicians' involved. There's records from those times of how it was proper employment, like construction workers today.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time I don't think it's taught but the general American seem to believe that cowboys were mostly White people. When in actuality it was Mexicans and even Black people after they were freed. It was considered a lowly position in the Wild West. If a cowboy was White, he was a very poor White. White people were on the frontier farming and such. Asians (the Chinese) did laundry and were cooks. That's where a lot of Chinese-American foods originated from. People also seem to forget that this time period, which was maybe only 30-50 years, had three pinnacle events unfold in US history—the Transcontinental Railroad was completed, The Chinese Exclusion Act went into law, and slavery was abolished. I may be wrong but I believe in that order too.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The cowboys were Mexicans who continued to do the same work they did before in the Mexican territories annexed by the United States.

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The myth of the Alamo and birth of Texas vs the real story of why Mexican army attacked. All the illegal immigrants from the US breaking laws on Mexican land (Texas), not paying taxes, and still pushing things like slavery even though it was against Mexican law. 

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They were trespassing on Mexican land, and were given multiple opportunities to vacate the Alamo but stayed until it was too late.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time "Only 8 percent of U.S. high school seniors can identify slavery as the central cause of the Civil War." So 92% of students are taught an inaccurate account of one of the most critical and defining parts of US history.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering the continued move against education and knowledge by both idiot parents and idiot party, as well as as topic-related pushes since at least the early 20th century, that is not surpising.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some contend that the issue was States rights….the option to choose slavery or not. Such an interesting study…

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This again. The assemblies of the seceding states published statements of cause, saying that they were seceding in order to protect slavery. They even did this before Lincoln was inaugurated. In a number of seceding states local militias raided federal arsenals and forts, and in the case of South Carolina fired on a ship bringing supplies to Fort Sumter, again before Lincoln was inaugurated. Finally, even though Fort Sumter would have soon been evacuated due to a lack of food, Confederate troops in South Carolina fired on the fort itself. So much for the "War of *Northern* Aggression."

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Jennifer Ness
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine if reading comprehension was still a goal of our education system

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It wasn't slavery as such that was the cause. It was Lincoln's position that the United States had to be either ALL slave states, or ALL 'no-slavery' states. He could not tolerate the first, and the Southern states could not countenance the second. As Lincoln said, 'a house divided against itself cannot stand': there was no place for one country/two systems. Southerners would not accept something which threatened the underpinning of their economy, and so desired to secede. I'm Australian, and i learned that.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There’s a saying I like: Those who know nothing about the Civil War think it was about slavery. Those who know a little about the Civil War think it was about states’s rights. Those who know a lot about the Civil War think it was about slavery.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's a little history tip. Any time someone asks what the reason for any war was, the answer is always resources. Without fail. In this case, the resources were slaves.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's only listed as the first and most important reason in all the states' secession documents. 🤷‍♀️

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like we have the most ill-informed citizens in the US compared to any "first world nations".

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Jennifer Ness
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a disgrace perpetuated by an unlikely coalition of Evangelicals and greedy sleazebags both focused on control. Stated in the 80s and has worked out very well for them.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's not just bad, that's DANGEROUS. You know the old saying, "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it"? Not keen on repeating the Civil War.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unfortunately, the white nationalist party is determined to start one, regardless of what anybody else wants. They will likely use the (fingers crossed) impending incarceration of their leader as the pretext to start the shooting.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

US ugly history is made as pretty as possible in US schools. That's why we're a bunch of stooges and it's only getting worse.

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Jennifer Ness
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where'd you go to school? I relayed my experience above. We weren't spared the ugly truth where I come from. We were allowed to take it in and and feel the heavy weight of of silence as we lost our blissful ignorance.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lincoln's foremost thought was keeping the Union together, although slavery was a good chunk too.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

90% of people outside the US can identify that the cause of the Civil War was slavery 🤦‍♀️

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

10% of Americans think they've been abducted by aliens. They're not the sharpest tools. Remember Joan Rivers' assertion that intelligence decreases the further one gets from the coast. Hi Kansas!

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6 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Slavery was not the central cause of the Civil War. It played a big part but with the North expanding faster than the South, they were losing their control of Congress.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is not completely true. The North was missing out on all the revenue from the Souths cotton crops. Granted the slavery issue was a major factor in the Civil War, but usual...it was about greed and that almighty dollar.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We were ACTIVELY taught that it wasn't really about slavery where I lived in AR and TN. And I graduated in 2008 so there is no excuse.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What? I don't even live in the US but I thought that was completely obvious.

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Jennifer Ness
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There has been a major propaganda campaign across the South to keep their kids from knowing the truth. I kid you not there are white people here who don't want their kids to feel bad about it. Feeling bad about atrocities is called empathy. In the North we've been taught about slavery. It was a gut punch to me as an 11 year old that I remember to this day to learn how badly humans can treat one another. Learning about the Holocaust felt the same way. Devastating. I'm glad for those lessons.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They have it in their textbooks in public school! I've learned about it on tiktok from people who have lived it. I live in the North and had no idea it's like a different planet down there. That naivete existed for many of us from the coasts and liberal states. We grew up without hearing slurs used in day to day life, thinking it was cool when Michael Jackson and Madonna went to the Grammys together, watching the Huxtable family on Thursday nights. It has been devastating to learn the truth. Since Trump the racists in the North no longer hide and the n a z is in the South are marching around in public. Since mobile phone videos captured the disgusting truth, we no longer misunderstand. It's been soul crushing to learn about the dual system hiding in plain site. We've been fooling ourselves and are complicit. We're at a crossroads. Never would have believed it in a million years but were on the brink of becoming a Fascist state. Hoping the bubble bursts.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's disturbing. That can't be real yet, can it? When I was in elementary school, pretty much every kid knew that slavery was a central cause of the civil war, much less high school.

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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

According to Lincoln himself, the war was to squash a tax rebellion and reunite the country. He also said that he was indifferent to slavery. If he could have ended the war with or without ending slavery, he would have. These are facts in his own writings. So maybe, just maybe, 92% are being told the truth. The truth is that the civil war was over taxes. Succession may have been over slavery and state's rights, but the war was over taxes. Now watch how many people downvote this because it's not a fact they like.

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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that Lincoln wasn't all that bothered about freeing enslaved people has nothing to do with the fact that the war started to preserve slavery in the south. Lincoln didn't start the war: it was started by the slavery supporters down south. Lincoln's points of view and the views of the ones who started the war are quite separate issues.Taxation was arguably what brought about the US rebellion and independence, but it wasn't the reason for the civil war.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, it IS taught, however we cannot make students listen, study OR remember

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think this stat necessarily means 92% were taught an inaccurate account so much as that about 70% don't know what caused the war, and don't care, no matter what their teachers tried to teach them

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That can’t be real. We learned this in my AUSTRALIAN school!?!?!?

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, idiot. The point is that they didn't pay attention in history class, FFS.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where did this claim come from? It sounds made up. I don't believe that 92% have never read a book or seen a movie or TV show, never had any inkling that slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It wasn't just slavery. State's rights was a big issue.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The war was to preserve the right of states to continue to permit slavery. Calling it about "state's rights" is correct, but the only right that they were concerned about in the south was the right to own slaves.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Slavery was not the central cause of the Civil War. The central cause was to keep the country intact. Lincoln issued the Emanciation Proclamation only to garner support from the north to continue the war. Lincoln said that he would retain slavery if it meant keeping the union together. Get your facts straight!

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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

N....no. There was a growing movement for the federal government to abolish slavery coming from the northern states, who had already done so and had become a safe harbor for freed and escaped slaves. The south....whose labor force consisted mainly of slaves, didn't want that...arguing that states had the right to govern themselves, and that they would never adhere to such a law. Slavery was the cause of the civil war, and while claiming "states rights" isn't technically wrong, it's omitting the root cause....of slavery. By the time the emancipation proclamation was issued, the war had already been underway for 2 years, claiming countless lives in the process. Abe was desperate to end the war however possible. But that doesn't mean the root cause was "keeping the union together" So you need to get your facts straight, because the only ones attributing anything other than slavery as the cause, are the one who've popped up over the past 15 years or so looking to re-write history.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I si not believe this is true unless legitimate proof is provided

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As was already established further up the list, there's a competition taking place as to which inaccurate history is taught. One side wants to deny slavery had much importance, while the other wants to paint it as a uniquely american creation, which resulted in millions of Africans being stolen away in the night to be slaves in the US. The reality is that of the 13 million Africans taken into slavery, only 388,000 went to the US, and many were willing sold by Black Africans, as those people were already slaves. That said, those who "can't identify slavery" as the root cause, usually cite "state rights" Which is missing the point....but also not completely wrong. Much the same the federal government says Marijuana is a no good, very bad and evil drug....but states have said "nah, smoke up" A state can enact their own laws, to choose which to follow and ignore, doesn't prevent the federal government from enforcing.Inconsistency in this was a factor. But again, missing the point

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody teaches that Slavery was uniquely American. This type of "both sides are equally bad" BS is tiresome. 60% of us or more recognize people are just people. A good poetion of that group want what would best for all. The 40% who only care about a subset of people have control through flaws in our Constitution and institutions that give too much power to the minority.

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Not so. Like all things in history and the present, there were several issues going on. The primary one was states' right - meaning whether the state or the federal government could decide certain issues for that state. At the time, the state issue was slavery. The difference between what the federal government versus the state governments control has always been the issue. Like now, gun regulations and abortion. For example, the (unconstitutionally political) US Supreme Court ruled that individual states could determine abortion rights in their borders. So now blue (democratic, equal rights, modern) states are trying to preserve abortion rights while red (white, "Christian," male worshipping) led states are curbing those rights. (My opinions).

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If it was "about slavery", then why did Lincoln only free slaves in the Confederate states? Northern states still had slaves until the 13th amendment was ratified in December of 1865, some 8 months after the war ended and Lincoln was killed.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those are some intersting half truths you're comforting yourself with. The Northern states all abolished slavery on their own long before the war via their state legislatures. The last was in 1804. The Amendment made it uniform federally.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time Christopher Columbus discovered America. That’s been bs for a long time and still gets taught in schools.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The part of this myth I hate is that he is often given credit for figuring out that the world is round, when ancient scholars had known that for a long time and had actually calculated a fairly accurate circumference of the Earth. People in Europe didn’t sail West to get to Asian, not because they thought the world was flat and they would fall off, but because the journey was much too long and you wouldn’t know if you could restock clean water and food along the way. Columbus was willing to go because he had done his own calculations which included several math errors that meant he thought Earth was much smaller and that Asia would be right where the Americas actually are. https://www.history.com/news/christopher-columbus-never-set-out-to-prove-the-earth-was-round

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time Corsets aren't meant to be painful and tight lacing was only practiced by a few people.


Corsets originated as "stays" or "a pair of bodies" (sometimes "bodice", though that word is used for other types of tops as well). They were originally basically like wearing a camisole with a built in bra. They were made of stiff canvas and has baleen (whale teeth) used to give them shape. I haven't worn any with whale teeth but I have worn some with the plastic alternative that is said to be very close to the baleen. If they're made correctly, they are snug but not tight. Your body heat will actually slightly melt the baleen or plastic into place and if you don't gain or lose too much weight they become like memory foam after a while.


The reason we think of corsets and tight lacing is because a few women did it in the late Victorian and early Edwardian eras (late 1800s/early 1900s). But for most of the time that corsets were popular, the goal wasn't to have a tiny waist, it was to have an hour glass figure. So you just padded out your bust and hips and bam! There were some women (and men) who hurt themselves achieving some impossible idea of beauty but a good modern equivalent would be: most women aren't out here trying to look like Kim Kardashian. If they are then most of them are using non-invasive ways to look like her (like make up, hair dye, clothing). Some women are getting plastic surgery to look like her (butt implants, etc). But the women getting surgery to look like her are the minority.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THANK you! I'm big into historical fashion and it always really irritates me when someone goes "corsets bad!!! Oppressive!!! They deformed women!!!". Like, it's true there was a very small minority of upper-class women who deliberately over-constricted their waists, but every other woman had custom-built and comfortable corsets which supported their bust better than a bra and formed the base shape for the fashions of the era. One historical fashion influencer to check out is Asta Darling; she's lovely, makes a lot of her own incredible cosplays and explains all the layers of her outfits. TLDR: corsets not bad.

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That Frankenstein is the monster, but in actuality Frankenstein is the doctor not the monster. The monster is actually called Frankenstein’s monster.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree - Frankenstein was the monster. The creature was as much victim as villain

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time The Vietnam War started in the mid-sixties when it started in the fifties.

apocalypse_chow replied: And lasted into the 70s. Good God, that was a disaster

SHIELD_Agent_47 replied: Some misinformed people still teach that the USA did not lose the war (by using the red herring of a slow withdrawal) when in reality North Vietnam succeeded in their goal of kicking out the occupying foreigners and reunifying Vietnam.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vietnam was a colony of France after WWII. But the French got their butts kicked at the Battle of Dien Bien Phu. So the US said it would help in 1954. Initially just sending a few troops the number gradually increased over time. 1960- 900 US troops. 1964- 23,300. 1966- 385,300. Peak troop strength in Vietnam was 543,482, on 30 April 1969. So, while the war for US started in the 50s, most of the US involvement was in the late 60s and early 70s.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time Albert Einstein didn't fail his classes.. He succeeded very well.

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Sometimes it's repeated by adults trying to uplift younger kids who struggle in school. 3rd grader having trouble with long division and is crying because he thinks he's stupid? "Aw, don't worry, even Einstein failed math. Math is hard. You're smart you just need to keep at it." The "keep at it" part being the point (because in this legend, Einstein eventually stopped being bad at math)." But yes, that is something that older kids take and run with to argue that their crap grades are in fact evidence that they are brilliant geniuses, and it's the school's fault for not challenging their genius.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And here's the story on how that wrong "fact" came to be: Einstein was born and raised in Germany first and moved to Switzerland later. Switzerland and Germany both have a Grade System, that gives grades between 1 and 6 (with halfs and sometimes quarter grades). The thing is, In Germany, 1 is the best Grade and 6 the worst - But in Switzerland, 6 is the best grade and 1 the worst. He aced Math, but it looked like he failed miserably, if one didn't catch that the Grade was from another country.

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No so much inaccurate but heavily downplayed. The American labor movement from 1880 - 1920's was so bloody that my Anthropology professor referred to it as the second civil war.

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The Battle of Blair Mountain, over 1,000,000 rounds were fired in a battle with workers who'd been fed up with 14 hour days in coal mines and living in tents and being brutalized by "private investigators," thugs hired the Capitalists." "Lots of good music came from it too. The IWW, communist Party, socialist party, and so on feature heavily here." "The National Guard was called in by the Capitalists, who shot or imprisoned anyone who didn't immediately get back in the mines."

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep, this is why we celebrate Labor Day. It's to honor the deaths of all the workers who sacrificed themselves for our 40 hour work week and no child labor, among other labor issues that once were rampant and no longer are. They stopped teaching this in school when Rockefeller's school programs were adopted by the US.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time I always seem to see some school teachers talking about Pearl Harbor, and some of them say that thats how WW2 started, I remember when I corrected them once, then i got to sit in the timeout corner.

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Man, that must have been frustrating.

To be fair, that's how WW2 started for the americans, but yes, it was already in full swing in other parts of the world.

There's this ubiquitous photo of german soldiers removing the barrier that marked the german-polish border in 1939. It's everywhere. It's in documentaries, it's shown in schools, it's in history books etc. etc. and, correctly so, always in connection with the beginning of the war.

Almost every german has this photo drilled into their brain, and that it was taken in 1939, when the war started.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1939 too is wrong and way too western-centric. The war started in 1937, when Japan attacked China. The invasion lasted until Japan surrendered (actually longer, as some soldiers refused to accept the surrender), and the allies did support China

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time Cortes and 500 Spaniards conquered the Aztec empire. It's true that he only had a few hundred Spanish soldiers but he had tens of thousands indigenous allies who did most of the fighting.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And tens of billions of little microbes that weakened the population, by killing the majority.

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So many!

The Titanic disaster has rooted itself firmly in pop culture as one of those things we think we know the general story of, but the history is quite different. A few-

-Titanic wasn't speeding

-The fourth funnel wasn't "fake" or "a dummy", it just served a different purpose than the other three. It was *not* purely aesthetic.

-Titanic didn't go out with too little lifeboats... by 1912 standards. She actually had more than she was legally required to take, and was designed to take many, many more. The idea they were so sure of her reliability they cut on safety is very false. Also, no one ended up dying due to lack of boats, but lack of time. Titanic sank before she could launch all 20. While yes, it was inevitable that people would die due to lack of boats, they hadn't reached that point by the final moments. The idea of people trapped on board waiting to die with no way off isn't *quite* true. They were still trying to launch them within the last 5 minutes.

-Third class were not purposefully locked below and certainly not because of classism. This one requires a bit of a lengthy response but the short version is, it seemed to be all simply a matter of confusion and/or miscommunication. There was no active attempt to hold back passengers according to ticket- in fact, it was the exact opposite.

-There was no 300 foot gash. The damage was made along *roughly* 300 feet but it was a series of incredibly small indents and holes.

-Lack of binoculars- There was no such thing as "no binoculars". They had plenty - I think we have three sets from the wreck alone. While it's true that a last minute staffing change didn't give the crows nest access to a pair, it's incredibly important to understand it didn't matter match. Binoculars were not favored especially high, and were not required. The closest thing we can get to blaming them is testimony that states that binoculars *maybe* would have been just enough to avoid the collision. Maybe- but certainly not for sure. Titanic was almost on top of the iceberg by the time it was sighted, binoculars would have done nothing to see it earlier. A reading of the testimony shows us wishful thinking and hypothesized hindsight, not blame or condemnation.

All of these are centered around the theme that Titanic was the victim of hubris. The history, however, shows that that narrative is a consequence of post tragedy press and not reality. Titanic was an incredibly safe and advanced ship with some absolutely horrible luck. It's easy to nitpick to try and find reasons "why", but the reality is Titanic was very safe on a normal, boring (albeit famous) and over cautionary sailing.

I've tried to hit some of the bigger, famous ones here. The more nerdy you get and down the rabbit hole you go, the more there is to unpack :)

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7 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here's the thing: Having enough life boats for all crew and passengers and having enough life boats to fulfill a legal requirement are two separate things. The Titanic had enough life boats to fulfill the legal requirement for the number of life boats. They didn't have enough life boats for all crew and passengers. Today, a ship has to have enough for everyone. Mainly due to the Titanic.

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r/askhistorians can teach you a lot more about these, but one thing that seems to be kind of implicitly taught is that since medieval Europeans were white, therefore they never saw or interacted with anyone who wasn't. I'm not saying there were a *lot* of people of colour in Europe at the time (there weren't) but Europeans did travel to other continents and had contact with Africans and Asians going back to the classical era and before.

Also foreigners did travel to Europe sometimes and there were the Romani people (who are from India) living all over Europe. The Mongols invaded Europe in the 13th century or so, and the Arabs once colonized Spain. So a work about the Vikings or something that has a few people of colour in it wouldn't necessarily be inaccurate.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'A Day in the Life of Ancient Rome' by Alberto Angela is a great read. Imperial Rome was for centuries a very metropolitan and diverse city. Give it a look if you're a history nerd.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time The Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776. No, it was signed on July 2, it wasn't announced until July 4 but regardless even Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, and others, wrote that they expected July 2 would be the date that would be celebrated with great festivities. That got lost to history.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From now on I'm starting celebrating on the 2nd through till the end of the 4th

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time In New Zealand, they sometimes seem to be taught that they had the highest casualty rate in both World Wars. I worked with a New Zealander who got genuinely angry when I said that it wasn't even close to being true. I put it down to him being misinformed, but then I saw another NZer making the same claim on the Guardian website.

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They got confused.. They had the highest rate of deaths per 1 million people in the commonwealth (not the world). "Post-war calculations indicated that New Zealand's ratio of killed per million of population (at 6684) was the highest in the Commonwealth (with Britain at 5123 and Australia, 3232)."

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#27

That William Wallace was a poor uneducated farmer that grew up in some small village and not a literal nobleman and that Robert the Bruce betrayed him. See tbh a lot of braveheart is complete hollywood b******t which is sad since we don't get taught much of our own history in scotland my only memory of studying it in school was literally being made to watch that stupid movie and take notes.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Braveheart the movie did a good job of actually bringing some of the real historical facts to public attention, simply by getting so much so glaringly obviously wrong.

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time This one is actually a common one: England’s king Ethelred was not nicknamed “Ethelred the Unready” because he wasn’t ready for a viking attack. His nickname was “Ethelred Unred”. Unred translates to ill-advised, while his name means well-advised. Nice one. It was mistranslated by some historians and stuck around.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also King Canute didn't go to the sea shore and try to turn back the tide, because he thought he was godlike. He did it to prove to his adoring subjects that he was just a normal man like them and wouldn't be able to do it.

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Marsha P Johnson did not throw the first brick at the Stonewall riots. You’ll often hear variations of “a black trans woman started Stonewall/pride” and while she was a prolific activist, she did not start it, she came later. That’s not to diminish her accomplishments and role in the riots, she was still there just not the one who started it, she came later when she heard people were rioting.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I. Was told it was a parking meter thrown through the window - not a brick?

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30 False History Facts That Were Really Taught In Schools, But Did Not Stand The Test Of Time Watch any kind of medieval docco or book on brewing and they will likely trot out that the people drank small ale because the water was not safe.

This idea was printed in some woman's book published in the 70's and everyone just kept repeating it and still do, it was never true.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, it is true. People didn't know WHY drinking water from most sources made you sick, and drinking something fermented or distilled (even a weak brew) meant you didn't get sick, but they knew that that's how it worked. So, that's what they did, most often 'small beer', which these days we'd call 'lite' or 'extra lite'.

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