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What does it mean to be a "real" man? Well, masculinity is one of those topics everyone has an opinion on, as gender norms remain a delicate subject that tends to spark heated debates online. And even though public attitudes are becoming more accepting in many ways, stereotypical patterns of masculine behavior are still deeply rooted in our society — according to the age-old cliché of the masculine guy, men are expected to be strong, brave, and dominant.

But in reality, when people are telling everyone that a macho man doesn't cry, takes risks, makes money, fears nothing, and — heaven forbid! — never shows any signs of emotional vulnerability, it can spark some pretty warped ideas about manhood.

Thanks to one illuminating corner of Twitter called 'Hot Masculinity Takes,' we get to see a galore of absurd cases when this happens online. "Welcome to the Alpha Zone," says the account’s description, and you already know it’s gonna be a wild ride. So continue scrolling to check out the absolutely ridiculous opinions about men on the Internet, and don’t miss the chat we had about masculinity with licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Jesse Matthews right below.

Psst! After you’re done with this list, more madness awaits in Part 1 of this feature right here.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna punch the idiot who wrote this put down. And I’m an oh-so-estrogenic woman. My crushing lack of testosterone must be making me so irrational to say something like this. Isn’t it?🙄😤😡 Who is this misogynistic weirdo, to think he can be rude to the ladies and gentlemen like that? Bet he’s an insecure neckbeard.

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It’s hard to avoid encountering the term toxic masculinity these days. But as the person behind the account, who preferred to stay anonymous, told my colleague Rokas in a previous interview, this social media project is not purely about that. The philosophy of the page is to post the takes and let people make their own conclusions. "I do draw a lot from the manosphere but a lot of the takes are from women speaking about men, and I include left-wing hot takes too," the creator added.

A brief scroll through the list proves that harmful stereotypes about what it means to be a man are abundant in today’s society. But what exactly urges people to share their absurd statements without any second thought? And how can these ideas affect men seeking out their masculine identity?

To gain more insight on the topic from an expert, we reached out to Dr. Jesse Matthews, Psy.D., a licensed clinical psychologist based in Chester Springs, PA. According to him, ideas about masculinity have become quite polarized in our society.

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"As masculinity has moved away from the 'manly man' or 'tough guy' definitions, many people have not only clung to these stereotypes, but they have made them more extreme," Dr. Matthews told Bored Panda. This usually stems from people rejecting the changing views, and "social media in particular creates echo chambers for this, with various influencers carrying the flags for those who identify with their views."

While we all bear different perspectives on the world around us, masculinity especially can be a very deep rabbit hole with a variety of different viewpoints. But Dr. Matthews raised an important question: why do these ideas matter so much to people?

"Obviously, it’s part of life for any guy or anyone who identifies with masculinity, but the obsession with being a 'real man' is more based in insecurity. The person essentially needs to ensure that they present a masculine enough identity to avoid judgment or being called out as not masculine by other guys," the psychologist explained.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or tell me you’ve never been within a mile of a woman without telling me you’ve never been within a mile of a woman.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The profile pictures that these guys have speaks so loudly that oftentimes the text isn't even necessary anymore.

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Jordi Sharpe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The real pussy is the one terrified of being a complete human being with a personality and tastes.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why the hell was this man listening to a random kid talk to their friend?

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Lucas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People can't help overhearing things sometimes, they CAN help judging them.

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Valden
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well let's hope his neckbeard toxicity keeps him from having his own kids to pass on his asinine thinking.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How they want nothing more than pussy yet use it as an insult at the same time is beyond me

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Dolevaal
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude its a KID. Also flowers are great could u stop ur b******t

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Christoph
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YAY for PUSSIFICATION!!! Just trying to uproot the assholification Bubba

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TheQueenZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh this one makes me see red. Little boys want proof that someone cares for them? They enjoy the fauna on our amazing planet? And someone just randomly decides this is bad? Do us all a favor and sign up for a stay in a padded room the rest of your existence.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I personally never saw what was so romantic about someone giving something that's about to die but I really don't see how wanting flowers affects your sexuality.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't usually do flowers, or if I will usually go for ones that are planted and will continue to grow. But when I have done the 'traditional' roses or bouquet, the girls I give them to will often dry and press them. One made them into bookmarks. So that way it still lasts.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So America is becoming super strong? Because male genitalia is the one that can't take a light hit but ours pushes out tiny humans. Pussies ain't weak, dudes. D*cks are.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every time I have ever given men flowers, they have absolutely loved it. I remember when I sent my husband a huge gift basket for his bday when he was on active duty here in the US. He was down on the border and couldn't come home, so I sent a bunch of snacks, balloons and flowers to his hotel and he called me in tears because no one had ever sent him flowers before. This was his 47th birthday. Dude went 47 years without ever getting flowers. Some won't get them until they're laying on his casket. Flowers are not just for women!!! Men love this s**t too!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

theres nothing wrong with a girl getting a guy flowers! *if* i had a bf i would def give him flowers! because of comments like this so many men are ashamed to admit they like things like flowers, or getting chocolates for valentines day, etc. the world needs to realize that flowers and chocolates are not only things women like!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Broo, come on!! Guys can love flowers!! What's wrong with that?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For example, this guys comment was the beginning of his journey to utter and complete Pussification.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pussy is the strongest muscle of the human body.. it literally creates life. Stupid reference spoken from an insignificant person

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It bothers me that the women in my office get flowers on their birthdays but the guys don't. I think a bouquet of flowers brighten up any room and I want them too

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell people. The most likely reason men are not getting flowers is because your co workers are worried about offending them. A fairly safe opener might be saying that you fancy some flowers in your front room and asking people what they recommend right now. My husband loves flowers more than I do, so I get him more often than he gets me. However when a female co worker of his bought him roses for his birthday, he was really worried how I might take it. Luckily I knew she had done it because he had previously talked about his preference for roses with a great smell over something with a great look, but you can see why it might cause trouble in a marriage. In the same way when a female co worker gets me flowers no explanation is needed, but when a man at work gives me flowers I do have to explain to my husband who it was and why - because they are thought of as romantic.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a sad fact that the only time most men receive flowers is at their funeral

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm surprised that this guy spends time posting about not getting something from women he doesn't want in the first place. I would think that he be whining about all the things he's wanted from women and been refused, over and over.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have gotten all my boyfriends flowers. They'd always seem so surprised.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just the US it seems. Rest of the world is safe to continue loving their partners and being loved.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Back in high school my girl gave me a card for valentines that had a dried flower inside. She had very carefully picked and dried the flower herself. Over twenty years late, it is still one of the coolest gifts I ever got.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meanwhile, give this guy a playstation and it's like Christmas, lol.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone gave me a flower once and now I'm transgender. The men who are afraid of this happening should lock themselves indoors and just drop out of society. Flowers are everywhere and can happen to anyone.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Give this guy a flowering cactus... He's a foooking prick.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Flowers are amazing and smell good. This guy sounds like idiocracy incarnate whose speed is ow my balls

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks for using female genitalia slang as a derogatory word. Really shows how you truly feel about women.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it interesting some men take anything female-related (pussification) and turn it into an insult. Any man with half a brain and eyes in his head has seen women having to be a lot tougher than any man in just about every aspect of life - exactly for this reason. The stuff we have to put up with. 🙄

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I taught my son to ARRANGE flowers. He always has a beautiful bouquet on the dining room table. And his wife thinks it's HOT.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I once heard the Magliozzi brothers on NPR's CarTalk state that the automatic transmission is the symbol for the wuzzyfication of the American male. The minivan is just the cherry on top.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the funny thing is i am on the weird s***post side of twitter (@dril, @SkinnyTuna, @boygrrl) and theyre all silly and such and this looks like something they would tweet.we've come full circle

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get my husband flowers every once in a while and he loves it. Men can appreciate the beauty of things like flowers too.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So a kid was able to verbalize all your hopes and dream??!! I'm sorry that a real man took away your dreams.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone find it a bit ironic he’s making these remarks with a big fat cigar in his mouth?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am a straight man, and I have received a lot of flowers through my life. And I love it

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read somewhere recently that the most flowers men ever get is at their funeral. Kinda sad, no?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Flowers are awesome. I just bought some lilies because of my late grandmas birthday to put them next to her picture. You know, f**k these people. They dont deserve your attention.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love if my girlfriend got me flowers. (Assuming I had a girlfriend). My favorite are blue morning glories, though you can't really make a bouquet from them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

please don't tell me it's your kid if it is yours he's never going to visit you

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna give a man flowers, wth is this man taking about??? Who ever I happen to date - he's getting flowers at least once gosh dang it

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean dude. If you want flowers get some flowers. Do t be afraid to treat yourself. I take myself on dates every once in awhile. Last time was to the zoo. Self care man. Self care.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I met a guy who took his wifes last name!! Talk about permanent points

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've never been given flowers but I would be over joyed if it happened and I'm a man in his 40s I guess I'm a pussy

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can someone explain why the word p u s s y is used by straight men to insult each other when it's also something they profoundly enjoy and are constantly trying to gain entry into? Shouldn't it be a compliment?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Every single person, men included, loves tokens of appreciation. Every. One. (I lean towards mixed bouquets, 46(M) )

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wayyyyyyyy back in collrge, I received flowers from my GF. My friends were jealous

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Men who are insecure about their manliness exhibit behavior that is often exaggerated and even caricature-like. But Dr. Matthews says there’s also irony at play here. "Many of these individuals would tell you that being a real man means just doing your thing and not caring about what anyone thinks about it. However, one can’t simultaneously obsess over portraying an ultramasculine image, yet claim to be unconcerned about judgment. It just doesn’t compute."

Hypermasculinity — or toxic masculinity as it’s usually called — is also based on the false belief that masculinity needs to be saved, Dr. Matthews argued. "In the same way that some people seem to be afraid that racism or homophobia might one day die out. So they embrace stereotypes, or how they think things 'should' be or were in 'the good old days.'"

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, so a man drinking a fruity drink sounds like a great way to filter out super shallow people. Drink up men, the fruity drinks are the best.

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But putting men (half of the world’s population!) in a box can seriously harm their well-being. "It’s limiting at best, and at worst it leads people to play into these stereotypes." For example, hypermasculinity often makes people act in ways "that are sexist or homophobic, or at least not challenging others on this kind of behavior."

"It also has the power to create toxic environments, uncomfortable for women or men viewed as not masculine, and of course to lead to situations involving sexual assault," Dr. Matthews continued. "As well, if these men carry on these thoughts and behaviors through adulthood, they may pass them down to their children or other young people they come into contact with, like kids they are teaching, coaching, and so on."

According to the American Psychological Association (APA), instilling elements of traditional masculinity into men and boys can be psychologically harmful, as it has been shown to limit their development, constrain their behavior, and result in gender role conflict. What’s more, it can negatively influence their mental and physical health.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This screams red flag all over. Anyone under that height is usually underage (with the exception of naturally petite women).

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And men wonder why we women have a tendency to come off as cold, closed-off, and wary with men we dont know. Obviously, even the men we DO think we know can be a danger to us.

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For men who try to seek out their identity and find a healthy relationship with their inner guy, these societal pressures and expectations can be especially burdensome. "It can be hard for people to stand out or to be seen as going against those around them. For example, a male raised in a family or in a community with traditional masculine stereotypes may find it hard to explore or adopt a less stereotyped identity," Dr. Matthews said, adding the person is likely to be criticized, punished, or excluded for it.

Unfortunately, most people who are raised in stereotyped environments tend to internalize those behavior patterns. Psychologist Matthews explained this happens because they don’t know anything else and it feels right to them, or they feel pressure to fit in.

"This can mean demonstrating extreme or toxic masculinity, as not only could one fit in that way, but he could be praised or more highly valued in the group for it." And, alarmingly, "in places like prisons where this applies, it could actually help you to survive."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only the most insecure men use words like alpha and beta males. Do they not realize how it makes them sound?

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Extreme views like the painfully ridiculous ones featured on 'Hot Masculinity Takes' are rarely a positive thing. But as the modern world now teaches us, the subject matter is much less black-and-white.

"Masculinity is not simply the opposite of femininity, just as it is not synonymous with heterosexuality," Dr. Matthews noted. "Many people today see being masculine as being calm and controlled vs angry and reactive, being a good problem solver rather than one who relies on brute force to solve everything, or standing up for other people or what’s right vs trying to control or overpower others."

What people see as healthy masculinity may differ, but generally, we can all foster it by not judging other people. "This means not being worried about what other men are doing and giving people the space to be themselves," Dr. Matthews added. "We can all do what we want to do and believe what we want to believe. Masculinity isn’t going anywhere, so people don’t need to try to be the protectors of it or to act in stereotyped ways to let people know they exist."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mmm, yes, let's never stop living with perpetual brutality, chaos, and death.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

High blood pressure, obesity, high blood sugar, malnutrition, but I can't think of any real reasons.

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Many men in Dr. Matthews’s practice have never gone to therapy before, and some wouldn't even be expected to be found in a psychologist’s office at first glance. But they are sure glad they did. "This idea of what it really means to be a man and the positive and negative ways in which they have lived this is a frequent topic of conversation."

"I would encourage anyone concerned with issues of identity, including ideas about masculinity, to start reflecting on it in some kind of organized way. Don’t just watch videos by your favorite IG or Tik Tok influencers, but start journaling, reading books, or going and seeing a therapist. It really can change your life," Dr. Matthews concluded.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Picturing this guy putting together flat-pack furniture without instructions ('cause those are for girls) and when his shelf turns into a table, he just throws it through the wall. Because bro

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BREAKING NEWS: WORK COLLEAGUES OFTEN ENGAGE AS FRIENDS WITH EACH OTHER. MORE ON THIS AT 11.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Say you're insecure about your masculinity without saying you're insecure about your masculinity

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

James Butler is a septic tank guy on TikTok and YouTube who has a 'manly' job, but also decent general advice about being a boss of a company. It's not all dancing and "challenges" on TikTok.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else think that the whole alpha, beta, sigma whatever is just dude bro astrology?

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