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Etymology is the term that refers to the study of the origins of words, including how they got their meanings and how words develop throughout history. Some of these words have lasted over a mind-blowing 15,000 years, like “thou” (the singular form you “you”), ”I” and “mother” and have been dubbed “ultraconserved words” by scientists.

But the English language is not finite; on the contrary, it keeps growing at quite an impressive pace. According to Global Language Monitor, around 5,400 new words are created every year; it’s only the 1,000 or so deemed to be in sufficiently widespread use that make it into print.

And while we use words every day without thinking, it’s incredible how little we really know about them. So in order to dive deep into some of them that we take for granted, we look at this illuminating Ask Reddit thread which shares some of the most interesting and surprising word origin stories.

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This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones The word "bear" in many languages in europe (including English) just means "brown thing". There used to be a proper name for bear, but it was taboo because saying it was believed to summon a bear, who would then kill everyone. It was so taboo it was eventually forgotten and the euphamism (brown thing) became the name. Ancient people were scared pissless by bears. The Arctic draws its root from arctus, greek for bear. So its the "land of bears" The Antarctic is thus, "the land without bears"

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David
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Polar bears saying... hey... wait a minute.

setsuriseikou
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Russian, the word for bear (медведь) literally means "the one who knows about honey" (мед = honey, ведь = to know).

Kate Haslam
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah, but! Arctic and Antarctic don't even refer to the fact that there are bears or not! The names refer to whether the constellation Ursa Major can be seen.

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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So... "Bear" and "No Bear". Still makes sense, and serendipitous that it still tracks.

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censorshipsucks
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm skeptical on this one because "bera" was the old english (1000 years ago). Latin is Ursa, and as the OP says greek is Arktos, so "bera" can only potentially mean "bear" in Germanic (Ger: Beer etc.). All three languages (latin, OE, Greek) come from indo-european, an ancient language hypothesised to have arisen in the caucasus region. The reconstruction they give at https://sites.psu.edu/josephvadella/2017/09/15/the-animal-who-must-not-be-named/ which repeats this story is hrktos for bear. The hr/ part can plausibly become fr/br and the -os part is just the nominative. So I'd give proto-germanic *Frh / Prh / Brh. Which becomes Bear quite easily. Sanskrit has Shrktas (obviously close to Arktos). So the basic word in all languages seems to be Urs/Hrks/Brs. Compare Ulpo/Lupo - latin - for wolf (ulf/ulfur in old germanic). Ur/Br/Wr/Fr are common swaps in Grimm's law. So meh, I am skeptical.

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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m a wee bit skeptical a well. The English bear comes from the Old English “bera” which came from the proto-Germanic “bero” (the brown one) and old Norse björn. The only thing I could find was that the Greek ursus retains the PIE (proto indo European) root for bear, however, there are some scholars (can’t seem to find more info on this) they believe that this root was replaced in northern regions due to the ritual taboo of hunters not naming wild animals.

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Little Phoenix
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Now I want to know the forgotten name.

Marla
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never wanted anything more even though I know I'd forget it immediately after learning it

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EvilNob
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also the bear in the slavic and some of the other European languages is medve, medveg, medveya Etc... That means honey eater.

Robert T
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The name Bjorn, which means bear, is slightly less appealing now. Have you seen Brown Thing today? What's Brown Thing up to? Shall I ask Brown Thing on a date? LOL

Auntriarch
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please tell me the famous tennis player didn't translate to mountain of brown thing

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White Wolf
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2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Hungarian it is medve ---> aka 'honey eater'

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    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones The word "quintessential" has one of my favorite etymologies. You can break it down into "quint" and "essential." Quint as in "five." "Essential" as in "essence," or "element." To be quintessential is to be the fifth element of something. To be the thing's *spirit*.

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    (Un)Inspired Aspiring Author
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you hear that sound? That is the sound of a KOTLC fan's brain exploding when they realize why Shannon Messenger chose the name "Quintessence" for the light from the unmapped stars, as in the series, it's the fifth element. (I believe we've gotten up to 7 at this point, earth, fire, air, water, quintessence, shadowflux, and Stellarlune/elysian)

    TD Walker
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was suggested to be "ether," the fifth "essence" and added to the four element: water, earth, fire and air.

    Brenda S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love languages. It truly fascinating how the English language has changed, not always for the better I fear. Listening to a well spoken individual sits like a well orchestrated musical piece.

    JM
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS is really cool.

    Linda Riebel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought it meant that if you boiled/reduced something five times, what was left was the "quintessence."

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    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Wow, good timing. I just learned this one today. Etymology of the word **clue**: The word clue originates with the myth of Theseus, who used a ball of yarn to find his way back out of the minotaur's labyrinth. The middle English word for a ball of yarn was clew (or clewe); when the myth was popularized in England by Chaucer, people started using the word clew figuratively to mean a hint or guide to solving a problem.

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    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew it also meant a ball of string but I didn't know the origin myth.

    N Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, i knew the origin myth but not the word.

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    brukernavn340
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Norwegian, we have the word "ledetråd", literally meaning "guiding/leading thread".

    Mimi Downhouse
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same in Finnish. Clue is Johtolanka = leading thread

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    Jenn C
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love the minotaur peering around the corner

    Untethered Universe
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Clew, clewe shares the same root as "Kluwen", which is Dutch for a ball of something.

    Robert T
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Love the picture with a latinised version of the Greek myth. Surely a minotaurus is only a little bull.

    Nandros M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Minotaurus does not mean mini bull. Minos was the king of Crete.

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    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why does he look like Florence from Florence + The Machine?

    Loretta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Am I the only one who thinks that Minotaur looks kinda cute?

    Milf Memoires
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Dutch we still use the word 'kluwe' , pronounced like clewe. It means a whole bunch tangled up, like a ball of yarn. Usuallly less tidy.

    JM
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is an extremely cool piece of trivia.

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    In order to find out more about how etymologists study the origins of words, as well as how words are made, Bored Panda reached out to Dr. Andreea Calude, the associate dean postgraduate for ALPSS (Division of Arts, Law, Psychology and Social Sciences) and senior lecturer in linguistics at the University of Waikato, New Zealand. Dr. Calude researches various aspects of language, especially language on social media.

    Dr. Calude explained that “language historians study language change by looking meticulously across many language vocabularies to track regular sound changes and sound correspondences and identify cognate classes, that is words and concepts which are inherited with (small or negligible or at least traceable) sound changes.”

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    #4

    English used to have a letter called “thorn” which kind of looked like the letter “y”. It made a buzzing “th” sound like in “the”. It’s why you see signs like “Ye Olde Shoppe”. It’s pronounced “The old shop”, not “Ye old shop”.

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    Robert Trebor
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Printer's fonts didn't usually have the thorn so they used y for th

    Delta Dawn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah it doesn’t really look like a y. More like a |p

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    Bunzilla
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Þ or þ for anyone curious about what it looked like. Honestly, it looks more like the letter P or b than a Y to me.

    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if you see it written in old saxon miniscules it does indeed look like a Y. Screen-Sho...46688b.png Screen-Shot-2022-12-18-at-102011-639ecd546688b.png

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    Robert T
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They had funny esses too. Spelling was somewhat optional too, especially with names. If you take a look at some of the old censuses, where people were often illiterate and the census taker had to write down what he thought, which was often wrong. My family appear with various spellings in different years, even for the same people.

    Remi (He/Him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have the same thing in my mother's side. A dude got misspelled in early 19th century and now some of the family has an u in their surname and some have o

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    wowbagger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So Kanye chose his new name wisely. He is indeed a thorn in the side of polite society.

    𝖊𝖆
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THANK YOU!! This is one of my biggest annoyances, films and tv etc. and people saying “yee” not “thee”. That and “I could care less” 😒

    Roman Hans
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand the hate! Think of it as saying the first half of this: "I could care less ... but it would be difficult."

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    AndyR
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's also the plural for addressing a group of people. So it can mean "the" or "you" (y'all for the Americans).

    LandAhoy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No it's the other way around- "you" was originally the plural/ formal form, it was "thee" that was originally the singular informal form of you, I guess "thee" just died out because everyone just became too polite!

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    Anonymouse
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES!!! And also it might be where "You" came from ("thou"), but I'm not sure. But this bothers me SO MUCH, thank you!

    Id row
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "It made a buzzing “th” sound" - Wouldn't that be a 'zzz' sound? It should be Ze old shop, lol.

    similarly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Close, but Z is an alveolar fricative (the unvoiced version of which is S), while TH is a dental voiced or unvoiced fricative.

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    margaret carradus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a letter from Anglo saxon. I love it, don't know why!

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    #5

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology: Dashboard The dashboard is a board on the front of a horse carriage meant to keep mud from kicking up on the passengers when the horse dashes. And over time it came to mean the front part of anything, even a computer interface is sometimes called a dashboard.

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    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have ridden in buggy with dashboard but did not know where the word came from. Don't think I even knew that part of the buggy was called that.

    Robert T
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, and "trunk" literally came from the wooden box tied to the back of a coach. American car terminology hasn't moved on from this in hundreds of years!

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even the word "car" is just a shortened form of "carriage."

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    Prashant Karnath
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Skipped a few transitional stages here, I think. The initial dashboard transitioned to the dashboard of the car which eventually housed all the meters for reading. Then anything with a set of data to be read became a dashboard.

    Christoph Lindemann
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The german word for wing or fender on a car is "Kotflügel" which means "fecal wing", because it protected the passengers from ... Yes, exactly.

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh gosh. I guess that makes perfect sense because when cars were first invented the roads were full of horse manure. Such a different world back then.

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    Alan Christensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "...even a computer interface is sometimes called a dashboard." Because of all the stuff that gets thrown at us.

    Eb
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe it's dash in the sense of striking something (like a ship being dashed to pieces on rocks), so stops passengers from being hit by stones and mug the horses' hooves throw up, a bit like a mudguard on a bike.

    Jay Cee
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wheels are yellow, the upholstery's brown, the dashboard's genuine leather. With isinglass curtains you can pull right down . . .

    Cuppa tea?
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So dashboard on computer is to keep the dirt from hitting the user?

    Chris Yuen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its the back from the horses perspective though

    2WheelTravlr
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is behind the horse, but still from the horses perspective, the front of the carriage.

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    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology: melon- not particularly interesting in itself, it came from Ancient Greek, through Latin, to Old French, before finding its way to English. All along the way it referred to various gourds. However, and this is the interesting bit, melons was slang for boobs in Greek, and it retained this slang definition as well as its “real” definition all the way to English. Usually in etymology you keep one definition or the other, and never both, which makes it really interesting. Also boobies.

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    Mister Dave
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like and dislike the thought that the male brain, for quite a few years, kept the secondary meaning alive.

    Rune Rosen (they/them)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grecians, and even Romans were actually very open about homosexual relationships. Thus, it wasn’t just the men who kept that lingo going.

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    Natalia Linnik
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never expected to upvote boobs

    goddessgebo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This changes the way I look at women called Melanie forever.

    Bored Retsuko
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Different etymology ;-) it's derived from Greek "mélas", meaning "black".

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    Frank Ropen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait until you find out where the word porcelain comes from

    Chucky Cheezburger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never underestimate the power of the human mind to come up with and use a tremendous number of slang words for anatomy.

    Sarah Stalder
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    no, anyone who ever used a calculator as a kid KNOWS it's boobLess

    Robert T
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Big melons, small melons, would you like to squeeze my melons"

    AndyR
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is there any evidence that they were both in use in English from the beginning? It's not the most subtle piece of visual slang, so I could see how people started using it independently.

    Eris Kallisti
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of how avocados grow in dangling pairs, and the word comes from the Nahuatl word for testicles, ahuacatl.

    patch051
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That explains a scene in Monty Python's "Not The Messiah...". I don't remember but maybe it's also in "Brian's Life"? Kind of an Easter egg there

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    “They compile databases to document these findings, and often share the data with open access so that anyone can look up such histories. Here is one compiled by my colleagues on the Austronesian language family,” Dr. Calude explained. She added that these databases are rich sources which combine meticulous linguistic expertise and document our linguistic past.

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    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones The word "panic" comes from the Greek god Pan who had a blood-curdling scream that induced panic in anyone who heard it.

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    Izzy Curer
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, the word comes from a psychological phenomenon that the ancient Greeks attributed to Pan. People would go into the forest and suddenly have a terrible feeling descend upon them for no discernible reason, which would often cause them to flee in terror. It's actually something that modern people still report today. It's been theorized that the feeling might actually be a result of the body picking up low frequency sounds that the person can't hear, like maybe the wind resonating through trees, but back in ancient times, they didn't know about such things, and so they believed Pan was guarding the forest by making people scared enough to run away.

    pebs
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An interesting thing is that Pan's scream came not at night, when it is normal to be alert outdoors, but during the day, precisely at noon, when there aren't even shadows and everything is perfectly clear.

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    Robert T
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He also played pan pipes, which depending upon how well they are played, may be viewed as a form of torture and also induce panic!

    Steve Robert
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I make the same sound everytime my zipper catches what shouldn't be caught, when zipping up my pants!

    Markus Weiler
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would like to hear Pans' blood-curdling scream

    Elizabeth Molloy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And thus those who encounter him today have a huge rush of blind panic!

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    #8

    The word oxymoron: the word oxymoron itself, appropriately enough, is an oxymoron. The oxy– part (the same as in words like oxygen, paroxysm and peroxide) comes from the Greek word for “sharp” or “acrid”, oxys. The –moron part (the same as in—well, moron) comes from the Greek word for “dull”, moros. So an oxymoron is literally a “sharp-dull” turn of phrase.

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    Luna Crow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now I love the oxymoron of common sense that much more

    January Tempis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interestingly enough when we say that people don't have common sense, we mean that not all knowledge is common to all people. What should be common sense is that all the people don't know all the things.

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    Tiramisu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here’s another interesting one: sophomore. Sophomore is what you call someone in the second year of high school or college, at least here in the States. It comes from the Greek “sophos” and “moros”, so together it means “wise fool”

    Öz Deniz Boro
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It will become my favorite word from now on. Thanks for the explanation.

    #theKingofOlympus
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to think it meant that oxes were morons.

    Markus Weiler
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love oxymorons. isn't life a disaccord in itself?

    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always it had something to do with Oxford University. Like a dumb person in Oxford.

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    Etymology: the word helicopter is a compound word derived from "**helico**" meaning roughly "spiral thing" and "**pter**" meaning roughly "flying thing". As in pterodactyl. The compound word is helico-pter, not heli-copter like everyone thinks.

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    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    " 1861, from French hélicoptère "device for enabling airplanes to rise perpendicularly," thus "flying machine propelled by screws." From a Latinized combining form of Greek helix (genitive helikos) "spiral" (see helix) + pteron "wing" (from PIE root *pet- "to rush, to fly")."

    Luna Crow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, so roughly, pterodactyls were named flying wing-fingers? The meme was right, we were naming them thicc scaley boys, only language has evolved..

    Laugh or not
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look ar the etymology of most scientific names for animals : thing with big teeth, thing with small teeth, things with thick skull, leggety thing, thing that looks like a bear, etc.

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    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the word that is cognate with greek "pter" is english "Feather". Compare "pater" and "father".

    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    P tended to become F in English. Pater to father, patra to feather. Patra was the Indo-European word for wing, which is the same root as the Greek words pteron and pterux. The letter P itself has an interesting history, when you consider how similar P and B sound.

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    Jack S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *best Arnie impression* "Get to the Spiral Thing Flying Thing"

    JaimeeJames WD
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does that mean it’s a silent p and we’ve all been saying it wrong?

    Leeza Martinez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that means the P should be silent and it should be pronounced helicoter

    Billy Maguire
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And all this time, I thought the REAL name was :CHOP-PAH".

    okpkpkp
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or "Batu Batu". We lived near a helicopter base in Germany. When the Hueys would fly overhead their rotor blades would make the sound of Batu Batu. Speed it up and you'll see, My two-year-old boy called them that because of the sounds they made.

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    When asked how words are born/made, Dr. Calude said that “old" words are essentially forms which are passed down, in a modified form, from one parent-language (we call these proto-languages or ancestor languages) to another (daughter-language).

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    “Imagine a language keeps the original form from its ancestor language, then this form may be modified slightly and then it might be replaced by a new form or modified and passed on to the next daughter language. If the form is retained, then we end up with 'fossilized' word forms which we call cognates.”

    #10

    A little late to this thread but my favorite one isn't on here yet. **Mortgage** "Mort" - Death "Gage" - Pledge "Death Pledge", very fitting for a 30 year loan.

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    Riley Quinn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because I knew this, I used the term 'death pledge' when signing my mortgage. Went over everyone's head.

    Jo Davies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Paid ours off in 6 years instead of 20. I am dying young!

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    late 14c., morgage, "a conveyance of property on condition as security for a loan or agreement," from Old French morgage (13c.), mort gaige, literally "dead pledge" (replaced in modern French by hypothèque), from mort "dead" (see mortal (adj.)) + gage "pledge" (see wage (n.)).

    Marie Dahme
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. Glad I sold my house a few years ago so I was no longer under a death pledge.

    margaret carradus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Engaged- together pledge. Which is worse?...

    moeless
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah. It's the only way most folks can kill their monthly (and mostly wasted) rent payment. Interesting how so many hate capitalism even though they wouldn't survive without it.

    JM
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Serious question: does this mean we are trying to get to the death of our pledge (paying it off)?

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    #11

    The phrase "hands down" comes from horseracing and refers to a jockey who is so far ahead that he can afford drop his hands and loosen the reins (usually kept tight to encourage a horse to run) and still easily win.

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    Luna Crow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially since the reins are usually pulled to slow the horse rather than speed it up, IIRC.. been years since I've been on one though. Maybe the commands are different for racehorses?

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    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another fun phrase from horse racing is "dead ringer". A ringer was a horse that was fraudulently passed off as another racing horse. A "dead" ringer was based on the second use of dead, to mean perfect (eg dead center, dead on, etc). A perfect doppelganger was a dead ringer.

    RedMarbles
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't quite right. The reins are kept short with some tension (keeping contact, or a "hold" or "feel") in the earlier part of the race to help the rider control speed and direction. If a horse is too eager to run too fast, the rider keeps a snugger hold of the reins. For the later part of the race, the reins are looser and the jockey will "throw" them (sometimes called "throwing a cross"), along with pushing high on the neck in rhthym with the horse. This is meant to ask the horse to run his fastest. When winning by a large margin, there's no need to further encourage or have the horse expend unnecessary energy, so the rider stops pushing on the neck and lowers their hands, signaling to the horse that he can continue to run, can even slow down, but is not being asked to either stop or run his fastest. The rider then absolutely pulls on the reins to bring the horse to a stop, which sometimes takes awhile if the horse still wants to run.

    H M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Except tight reins means stop, not run.

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    #12

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology: The word “avocado” comes from the Aztec word for testicle. That’s literally the only one I can think of right now.

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    Nadine Bamberger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, there is a resemblance but if they really do look like that you should definitely get them checked lol.

    Another Fool on the Hill
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If one could actually see his testicles a 'check' would definitely not be enough... 😖

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    Eris Kallisti
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do tend to grow in pairs. If BP had picked a photo of them growing on trees it would make sense

    Julie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Orchid is from the Greek word for testicle. Wonder how many other things?

    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was originally Avoguado or Testical Fruit in Aztec, to distance itself from the testical name Guado (Testicle) was made Cado as in Avocado , though Cado means nothing.

    Charlotte Sandoval
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Avoguado is still very much the Spanish influence. If you go back to classic Nahuatl it's Ahuactl, the "tl" ending being a lot more typical of the language, and the Nahuatl word "Atla" meaning testicle

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    Brenda S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one thing I can think my ex could grow …..

    Thomas Ewing
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have 6.02 times 10/23 Avocados, then you have Avagadro's Avocados.

    Evelyn Haskins
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great grey green greasy limpopo fruit

    Salty Wild Hair
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    lol In New Orleans they call these alligator pears.

    Dagnirath
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They were also believed to be such a powerful aphrodisiac that virgins weren't allowed to touch them.

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    Dr. Calude gave an example: “in the Proto-Central-Pacific, the word for five is ‘lima’, which in many daughter languages has stayed the same or been slightly modified. In Hawaiian, Fijian and Tokelauan it is the same: ‘lima’, in Māori, Raratongan and Tahitian it is ‘rima’. The sound change from [l] to [r] is well-documented and historical linguists use regular sound changes like that to track language genealogies for hundreds and thousands of years of evolution.”

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    #13

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones The word “barbarian” comes from an Ancient Greek word referring to all non-Greek speakers (including Egyptians, Phoenicians, etc.) This was because to the Greeks, all other languages sounded like people saying “bar bar bar”. This became the root for the word βάρβαρος (bárbaros), which roughly means “babble” or “gibberish”. It was later adopted by the Romans to refer to any culture that did not practice Greek or Roman traditions (even though Latin-speakers were technically classified as barbarians because they didn’t speak Greek). Due to good old xenophobia, it eventually came to mean “uncivilized”, and from there it made its way through the centuries into Middle English.

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    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had heard a folk etymology that it meant the bearded ones since mediterraneans shaved. It appears in "barber".

    Lemaire
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the etymology I learned. But after some "thorough" "research" (5 minutes of Googling), the gibberish/Onomatopoeia definition seems more legit. The greek root for beard is nothing like "barb-", it's γένι (pronounced Yeny). Also, the Greeks loved them some beards, so why would they consider the ""bearded ones" necessarily foreign...so I guess I have been wrong all of this time.

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    StayClassy
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bar bar bar = blah blah blah Blahblahians

    Sarah Stalder
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interesting...especially since you mentioned Babel, which is, of course, where we get the word babble...

    Inge Vavrovsky
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In German, the movement of Germanic tribes southwards and across Europe between 400 and 800 a.C. Is called "Völkerwanderung" (= movement of the peoples") - a positive or at least neutral term, whereas in all languages with latin origin like Italian, French and Spanish it is the "Barbarian migration" - alluding to something negative coming from outside...! This is how language shows an attitude.

    EvilNob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the famous Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbier.

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    Karl Beckstrand
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Heard of the Berbers in North Africa?

    Capo di tutti Capi
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    total nonsense. romans were always close shaved. Barba means "beard" so, barbari means "beardies"

    Aria de Saint-Iuz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's actually pronounced VarVaros in Greek, and the countries around Greece kept it with V in their languages. I don't know why the westerners decided to change the V to B...

    Lemaire
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    v to b was a thing. Linguists, help us out here...

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    Kathy Brooks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I heard it originated from the Barbars onthe north coast of Africa. Their primary source of oncome was piracy.

    Ninni Serio
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wrong!!! Came from berber that are the nomads of north africa

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    #14

    Utopia. I think there is a fairly common misconception that this word means 'good place', possibly because the first part of the word sounds similar to happy words like euphoria / eudaemonia etc. The word was in fact coined by Thomas Moore, and etymologically comes from the Greek 'ou' and 'topos', which literally translates to 'no place', or 'nowhere'. I just like that the unattainability of utopia is built into the word itself.

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    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, the current use does rather follow that because it means: "an imagined place or state of things in which everything is perfect." So yeah, it means a good place but it means an imagined perfect good place - which is --- no place / unobtainable.

    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The funny thing is Tho.s More's concept of utopia was a theocracy where people spent their time praying. Sounds like hell to me.

    Zachary Judd
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moores utopia was a play on words because of the same sounding ou-topos and eu-topos. So it was supposed to be both.

    tullotoe underfoot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What it literally translates to is rarely the meaning.

    Stannous Flouride
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like Erewhon, first published in 1872, "Erewhon" (an anagram for "nowhere") is perhaps the most brilliant example of Utopian novels, taking aim at the humbug, hypocrisy, and absurdities surrounding such hallowed institutions as family, church, mechanical progress, advances in scientific theory, and legal systems. Intelligent, inventive, and wickedly humorous, the classic novel protests the blind acceptance of ideas and attitudes, an aspect of Samuel Butler's work that made his fiction enduring, entertaining, and thought-provoking. His remarkable prescience in anticipating future sociological trends adds a special relevance for today's readers.

    David Evans
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Samuel Butler wrote “Erewhon” describing a Utopian country, it’s (almost) “Nowhere “ backwards.

    Jo Davies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it comes down to perception and illusion. We all no that no matter how hard we dream, there is no place such as Utopia.

    Mark Roeling
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    or "eu", for "good"? Also greec

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    #15

    Sailing terminology is everywhere: "Taken aback" - This happens to a ship when the wind shifts and the sails are suddenly blown backward into the sailors' faces. The ship loses forward momentum. "Learning the ropes" - when a new sailor literally learns which rope is connected to which part of the ship. "Boarding" - Literally getting onto the boards of another ship. We still use this one to describe getting onto an airplane, when very few of them have any wooden parts. Keeping things on an "even keel" - The keel is the lowermost part of a ship's hull. It's the part that runs down the middle and cuts through the water. Sailors want an even keel so that the ship stays on a smooth and steady course. Nowadays the term is used for any situation where people want to keep things smooth and steady. "Limey" - Used as a semi-derogatory nickname for British sailors, who used limes and/or lime juice to prevent scurvy at sea. Nowadays it's a semi-derogatory nickname for all British people. "groggy" - Grog was a mixture of rum and water that sailors drank. If you were groggy, you were either drunk on grog or hung over from the grog the night before. Nowadays we use it to describe being tired and fuzzy-headed. "loose cannon" - Literally when a cannon wasn't secured in place and started crashing into things. Cannons were heavy pieces of solid iron with wheels, and if they weren't secured, they could roll/slide across a ship's deck whenever the ship leaned from side to side, and they could do some major damage to the ship and to the sailors. Nowadays this term describes a person who is unpredictable and likely to do damage wherever they go. Terminology from old horse carriages is everywhere too: "dashboard" - There was literally a board in front of the carriage driver to protect him from mud and gravel that "dashed" up against it from the horses' hooves. Now we use the word to describe any surface covered in controls, including on computer screens. "hold your horses" - Self-explanatory, you hold the reins of the horses to slow them down. Terminology from old machines: to be "keyed up" or "wound up" - Referring to old clocks and clockwork machines that you sometimes had to wind up with a key. "hanging up" a phone - Old phones, you had to hang up the earpiece when you were done. "fired up" - Referring to steam engines, now people use it to refer to people being full of energy or starting up a piece of technology (whether it uses fire or not). "upper case" and "lower case" - The individual metal letters used in a printing press were kept in cases - smaller letters in the lower case so they were in easy reach, larger letters in the upper case because they weren't used as much. "stereotype" - This was a word used for identical copies of the same document, from the same printing press. Now we use it when we describe characteristics that we think are identical across whole social groups.

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What about the sailing expression "(cold enough to) freeze the balls off a brass monkey?" The Brass Monkey was a trolley made if non-sparking brass to carry powder and ammunition (iron could spark and ignite the powder). Brass, however, contacts more in the cold, so if it was well below freezing the contraction of the cart would shift the cannon balls and they'd fall off. Thus, it was cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey!

    Henrik Schmidt
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That explanation is probably false, though. According to Wikipedia, "During the 19th and 20th centuries, small monkeys cast from the alloy brass were very common tourist souvenirs from China and Japan. They usually, but not always, came in a set of three representing the Three Wise Monkeys carved in wood above the Shrine of Tōshō-gū in Nikkō, Tochigi, Japan. These monkeys were often cast with all three in a single piece. In other sets they were made singly. Old brass monkeys of this type are collectors' items.[1][2] Michael Quinion, advisor to The Oxford English Dictionary and author of the website World Wide Words, writes, "it's more than likely the term came from them".

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    Luna Crow
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. NO. Just no.. I mean, the rest of this entry is on point and wonderful.. but I refuse to accept being old enough that "hanging up" needs to be described in a discussion about etymology. Corded phones were still widely used into the early 2000s, surely kids these days know about them.. oh dog, I said the words.. TIL I'm old 😭 Time to hang it up

    Phillip Hart
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But the phrase is from the older ones where you speak into the bit that looks sort of like a steampunk candlestick and the earpiece is kind of a cup attached to a cord. The base has a place to hold the cup when not in use, and the weight of the cup disconnected the call

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    David Phillips
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Three sheets to the wind. Learn the ropes. Shipshape. A different tack. Pissing into the wind. Any port in a storm. Safe haven....Britain is an island, so ships have always been important: politically, culturally, economically... and linguistically

    KittyGotClaws
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm an American living in Ireland now, but sometimes someone will call me a 'Yank'. I prefer to be called an American; however, sometimes I think that it might be interesting to hear someone call a southerner a 'Yank". Might be some interesting fireworks!

    BobTDG
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To Britain and Ireland, you're all Yanks.

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    mayaexists
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The hanging up one makes me feel old and I’m literally a teenager. We had those phones in our house

    Delta Dawn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It doesn’t help that the word limey is usually followed by the word bastard

    Amanda Rose
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tack is another one that can fit in this list. Also used in sewing.

    Dan Bexell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gotta throw this one in: Stonehenge takes it's name from the way the rocks are set up, resembling an old gallows, which was called a hengen (the root word of hanging too) the old word for stone was stane, so putting them together, you got stanehengen, or stone gallows, which gradually became stonehenge.

    Nandros M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also you need a board to board a a ship.

    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Graveyard shift" is also a sailing term. So called because the shift between midnight and sunrise was the most dangerous

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    However, it is impossible to know which are THE oldest words, but we have some ideas where to look for them, Dr. Calude argues. “We suspect they might be everyday words, what we call basic vocabulary which languages have because it is important to discuss such concepts and which languages resist borrowing from other languages (because it is indeed so basic), for example words like mother, sun, mountain, number words like one, two and three, and color words like green and red, but also more grammatical words like that and pronouns like I and you,” she concluded.

    #16

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones The etymology of "tawdry" is a real ride. There was a 7th century Anglo-Saxon saint named Æthelthryth. Now, nobody, not even 7th century Anglo-Saxons, wants to go around trying to pronounce that dense forest of th's, so she was commonly known as St. Etheldreda, and later, linguistically lazier people called her St. Audrey. St. Audrey was the patron saint of a town called Ely, and the folks of Ely held a fair every year in her name. One of the primary products on offer at these fairs was lace. "St. Audrey's lace" was said a few too many times, and got slurred down to "tawdry lace." Over time, the lace fell out of favor. It was mainly made by peasant women, and thus viewed as cheap, and the Puritans looked down on lace garments of any kind as ostentatious. "Tawdry" then began to be used to describe other things that were cheap and ostentatious, and the modern definition of the word was born. tl;dr: "Tawdry" comes from the fact that Æthelthryth is really hard to pronounce.

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    Robert Trebor
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Æthelred Redeless has been taken to mean Æthelred unready but it really means Æthelred no counsel.

    Cherry Knobloch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The earliest patterns for making lace appeared in the 1560's. Until machines for making lace were invented in the mid-1800's, lace was incredibly expensive. Handmade lace still is.

    Rob Chapman
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Aethelthyrth isn't pronounced the way it appears. Old English had two letters representing different vocalizations of the "th" sound. The letter thorn represented the modern sound as in the word "the" or "they", while the letter eth represented a sound similar to modern "dh", as in Dhaka, but is usually transliterated to a modern "d as in dog" sound. Aethelthyrth is actually pronounced "ethel-dred". Note: Even though the vowel sound precedes the consonant "r", it is never pronounced "ethel-dirth" or "ethel-dird"

    margaret carradus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fave Ely quote- about dodgy clerical behaviour Non sunt in caeli quid fuccant waves in Ely

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    #17

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology: Nimrod was originally a compliment referring to one's hunting skills (Nimrod being a biblical figure known for his ability to hunt), but the definition changed because people didnt understand Bugs Bunny was calling Elmer Fudd a Nimrod *sarcastically*

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    Elwood Schwartz (it/that)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are a lot of people on bored Panda that don't understand sarcasm, as well.

    N Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have to find the cartoon to verify, but Bored Panda has the excuse that sarcasm is damn near impossible to accurately convey through text alone. It is a communication method that relies on tonality. Hence /S.

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    Christof Irran
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kinda like calling somebody an "Einstein" - it's not to be understood as an endorsement of that person's intellect. As in "Hey, listen Einstein. That's not how you ..."

    Julie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ahhhhhh, there was that list of odd names for boys and someone posted Nimrod. Now we Pandas know....the rest of the story....

    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    False. Nimrod is actually ancient Aramean for "He will rebel", this was first written down in Babylon 1800 years ago about the name Nimrod

    Atreïdes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That’s what it means, but the Bible lists the hunter having Nimrod as his name, as seen in Genesis 10:8.

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    Alex Olinger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    what we learn from cartoons . . . there's education everywhere!

    Marion Banks-wilkinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nimrod is the name given to one of Elgar's enigma variations. It’s probably the most famous because it’s stately and solemn sounding and is used at Remembrance Sunday and funerals.

    James Peters
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the BEST! I love me some Bugs Bunny!

    Michelle Lauer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FACT: Bugs Bunny thought Elmer Fudd was a terrible nimrod!

    Spooky Scary Skeletons
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine being an RAF pilot and you tell people that the plane you fly is a Nimrod.

    Liliko
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Hungarian folktales Nimród is a king great at hunting.

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    #18

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology: Nightmare. The “mare” part of the word “nightmare” comes from Germanic folklore, in which a “mare” is an evil female spirit or goblin that sits upon a sleeper’s chest, suffocating them and/or giving them bad dreams. So basically the word comes from a description of sleep paralysis.

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought it was from the belief that spirits, demons, or witches would use the sleeper as a horse/ride, giving the sleeper bad dreams - thus night (time of day) mare (female horse). Also the origin of hagrid/hagridden (ridden by a hag), but not haggard.

    3 Owls In A Coat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “The word nightmare is derived from the Old English mare, a mythological demon or goblin who torments others with frightening dreams. The term has no connection with the Modern English word for a female horse.”

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    Bored Retsuko
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fun fact: the painting in the picture is "Der Nachtmahr" by Swiss painter Füssli. "Nachtmahr" is the German equivalent to English "nightmare", but it refers only to the demon itself, not to a bad dream as such.

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To add to that: a nightmare is Albtraum in German. Traum means dream and Alb is another word for Nachtmahr.

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    Kim Steffen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The night hag is an unhappy spirit the tortures us in our sleep.

    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "mara" is an old verb for "to crush".

    Senjo Krane
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't sleep on my back. Guaranteed to have a nightmare

    Nele H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's so interesting that this is the reason. I get nightmares when I get too warm. Bet our bodies want to "save" us somehow.

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    Dorthe Schou-Nielsen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Danish it's 'mareridt' which roughly translates to 'being ridden by a mare'.

    Annett Nyrud
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Norwegian too, of course. "Mareritt" = "mare ride" (where "mare" Is the female demon who is/was performing the "ride")

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    Kim Steffen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's also the description of a night hag.

    Amanda Rose
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Similar origin for the Morrigan of Celtic lore. It's believed to be a cognate with the mare portion of the word.

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've never had sleep paralysis, but from the descriptions I have heard it sounds terrifying. Imagine how much more terrifying it must have been to people before modern science came along to explain it. They really thought that they were being tormented by demons.

    Tyler
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I recently read "Little Thieves" by Margaret Owen, in which this same concept is used! Creatures called "nactmaren" are evil spirity things that climb in and cause bad dreams, and then ride you until you die of exhasution

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    #19

    In French the phrase “lion teeth” is “dent de lion”. A long time ago someone saw a flower and thought its petals looked like lion’s teeth, so they called it the dent de lion. Dent de lion = Dandelion.

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    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    someone throwing shade on lions by saying their teeth are yellow

    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're welcome to try and brush them so they're not!

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    EvilNob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In German it's still called Löwenzahn lion's tooth.

    Bonnie Buttons
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny. In French it's called "pissenlit" or "p**s in the bed". Dandelions are supposed to have a diuretic effect which is why many "weight loss" herbal teas has dandelion in them. It helps lose retained water.

    Nadine Debard
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. And when you're dead you eat the dandelions from their root (manger les pissenlits par la racine).

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    Melody Johnson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Spanish, dandelion is called "diente de león," which translates to "lion's tooth."

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    late 14c., a contraction of dent-de-lioun, from Old French dent de lion, literally "lion's tooth" (from its toothed leaves), a translation of Medieval Latin dens leonis.

    Laura kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it refers to the leaves which are jagged like teeth.

    Jihana
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sane flower is called Löwenzahn (lions tooth) in Gernan.

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The name comes neither only from the flower, nor from the leaves. It‘s the whole picture. Lion for the lions mane which is the flower and the teeth are the leaves.

    AZ SheltonSaladin
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe the name is in regard to the jaggedly sharp leaves of the dandelion

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    #20

    Etymology: Why do we raise chickens (animal) to eat chicken (meat) but raise cows (animal) to eat... beef (meat)? Because in England, French used to be the preferred language of the court, whereas Welsh was commonly used by the, well, commoners. The Welsh word for cow, cwe, was pronounced "coo", and the French word for the meat from said animal was boeuf, pronounced "buf". Poor people raised "coos" so rich people could eat "buf". (Chickens weren't widely eaten by the upper classes until much later.)

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    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn’t Welsh, but old Saxon.

    AndyR
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was coo or cu in Old English, so the pronunciation was broadly the same.

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    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is kinda right but gets the details wrong. Not Welsh, but Old English. Not French, but Norman Frankish. It was the Norman noble class over the Saxon peasants, following the conquest of William the Conqueror.

    Penny Fan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Welsh for cow is "buwch "... cattle is "gwartheg"

    Khavrinen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same story for sheep vs mutton and deer vs venison.

    Shyla Bouche
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I call them dinner. *nudges her empty food bowl*

    Alan Christensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And thanks to the French speaking nobility, various four letter words which were perfectly proper among the Anglo-Saxon non-nobility were classified as low-class or, as they say in Latin, vulgar.

    Russell Tilling
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe the Latin "vulgare" means the generally-occurring or wild variety. It has changed its meaning in recent history to mean "vulgar" or derogatorily common.

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    Phil Green
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Welsh spoke Celt, the English spoke a variety of languages, mostly Germanic or Norse.

    Russell Tilling
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't believe the word Celt existed before the 18th century. It was coined to describe Cornwallians, Welsh, etc but is a made-up word.

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    Abner_Mality
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually you raise a hen (Huhn - Anglo-Saxon) but eat poultry (Poulet - Norman French)

    Sawdust
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And chicken used to be poultry, similar to the French poule.

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    #21

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Malaria Malaria is an infectious disease characterized by chills and fever and caused by the bite of an infected anopheles mosquito. This word comes from the medieval Italian *mal* (bad) and *aria* (air), describing the miasma from the swamps around Rome. This "bad air" was believed to be the cause of the fever that often developed in those who spent time around the swamps. In fact the illness, now known as malaria, was due to certain protozoans present in the mosquitos that bred around these swamps, and which caused recurring feverish symptoms in those they bit.

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    Riley Quinn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family learned that 'mal' meant bad in Italian after the fact. We adopted a rescue dog named Maly who had some serious behavioral issues. Took us a while, but that 'bad' dog ended up being a very good boy. Just needed some loving.

    Jihana
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TIL the origin of the word malaria, and that mosquitoes poop blood.

    Luna Crow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's clear the air - kill all mosquitoes!

    Nandros M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And anopheles is greek for non-useful/useless.

    Agnes Jekyll
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Malady is from Middle English maladie, from Anglo-French, from malade (sick), from Latin male habitus in bad condition.

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    #22

    In my language that is Bengali, the word for honey is "*Madhu*" and wine is "*Madh*". They both sound the same, because they came from the Sanskrit word *Madhu* which means honey or alcoholic drinks. And that comes from Proto-Indo-Iranian word *Madu* which means the same thing. From that, the Persian word *May* comes, meaning wine. If we trace even further, the Proto-Indo-Iranian *Madu* comes frm the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European word *medu* or *medhu*, which means honey, intoxicating drink or sweet drink. From that PIE word *medu*, comes: - Greek: *methi* (drunkenness) - Germanic: *meduz*, from where the English word "*mead*": an alcoholic beverage that comes from fermentation of.....you guessed it....honey. In Dutch, it's still *medu*. In German its *met* meaning mead. - Celtic: in Cornish its *medh*, in Irish its mid, and Gaulish its *medu*, all meaning mead. - Balto-Slavic: *medus*, from where *medus* (Latvian) and *medus* (Lithuanian) in the Baltic branch, and miod (Polish), med (Czech, Bulgarian, Serbo-Croatian and Macedonian), and Mjod (Russian) in Slavic branch, all meaning Honey. now here's the most interesting part: - Tocharian: *mit*, from where it got burrowed into Chinese. Thus in Chinese, *mit* means honey, since it got from the Tocharians.

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    Kat
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Dutch it's 'mede' not 'medu'

    the Return of Bruno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Weird that methanol is the deadly alcohol, and ethanol is the good one.

    Marek Čtrnáct
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not related. Those words are derived from "methane" and "ethane", the simplest hydrocarbons. "-ol" means that one hydrogen atom was replaced by the -OH group. So methanol is chemically very similar to ethanol, which allows it to fool your body into trying to metabolize it... but it's also different enough that it won't quite work.

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    Ami Tokuda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And "mitsu" is honey in Japanese, came from Chinese. Never knew the origin, thanks OP!

    Diane Hirshon
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn’t “Mitsu”also mean “Three”??

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So where did English get "honey" from then?

    Sruthika Karalmarx
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One more interesting fact the word 'Madhu' in Tamil ( one of languages spoken by people in state Tamil Nadu located in southern India) means alcohol

    Timmy Pillinger
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially since Tamil is not a relative of the languages mentioned, but of Finnish and Hungarian

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    Blueplanet
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hi chinese here. honey is pronounced the same way as "me". i never knew its origin so this is rlly cool

    София Харитонова
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    2 years ago

    Thank you!

    margaret carradus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love PIE. Comes from Kurgan people who spread it around like butter

    Timo Mesimäki
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And in Finnish it's 'mesi' and in Hungary it's 'mez' one of the oldest loans from Indo-Europian languages to Fenno-Ugric family. I should know, my surname is Mesimäki, meaning Honey Hill.

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    #23

    I love the origin of the word "Company." It's roots are latin--"cum" (with) and "panis" (bread), because your company are those **with** whom you break **bread.**

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    Delta Dawn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    go around saying “cum" and "panis" at work, I dare you

    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better is comfort: com (with) fort (strength). So someone can offer you withstrength

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    mid-12c., "large group of people," from Old French compagnie "society, friendship, intimacy; body of soldiers" (12c.), from Late Latin companio, literally "bread fellow, messmate," from Latin com "with, together" (see com-) + panis "bread," from PIE root *pa- "to feed."

    Debby Keir
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cum is pronounce 'coom' from the latin. Used often in medico speak and written in the notes a '/c - eg this prescription is'take this '/c water'. Absolutely nothing rude - it's all in your mind.

    jimmy pop
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These days companies feed you crumbs while they keep the loaf.

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    mid-12c., "large group of people," from Old French compagnie "society, friendship, intimacy; body of soldiers" (12c.), from Late Latin companio

    Jack S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not touching this one... That's what she said?

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    #24

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones The word *apron* was originally *napron*. But when people said "a napron" it got gradually transformed into "an apron".

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    kathoco
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In French napperon still is used but means tablecloth

    Sara Nobre
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In portuguese we use the french napperon, but only for really small tablecloths, to place under a jar on the table, for instance. Old ladies put them under old TVs, as well :)

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    Yeah, okay.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Related to napkin, a smaller version of the napron, which didn't change to "apkin". Go figure.

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    Shyla Bouche
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've heard an orange used to be a norange, but I don't know if it's true.

    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also an adder / a nadre. (Old English).

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ""apparel for covering the front of a person" (especially while at work, to keep clothes clean), mid-15c., faulty separation (as also in adder, auger, umpire) of a napron (c. 1300), from Old French naperon "small table-cloth," diminutive of nappe "cloth," from Latin mappa "napkin."

    Ray Heap
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something to do with „nappy?“

    Henrik Schmidt
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "An adder" (a type of snake) was originally "a nadder". It's still "natter" in German.

    Ash
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something similar happened to the word "cherries", which originally was singular with an -s on the end, and English speakers started to think the s meant it was a plural, so they recreated a new singular of "cherry".

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    #25

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Roger is just the modern English equivalent of the Old English and Old Norse name Hrothgar. Additionally, Hrothgar means "famous spear", and is the name of the Danish King in the medieval epic poem Beowulf.

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    JoyfulZebra
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mr. Rogers sounds a bit intimidating now.

    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mr Hrothgar's neighborhood.

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    Gabriel Proulx-Jalbert
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So in Skyrim, High Hrothgar is actualy High Roger or High Famous Spear.

    Atreïdes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine climbing all the way up the mountain to find a single cracked-out Greybeard named Roger praising a spear

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    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    masc. proper name, from Old French Rogier, from Old High German Hrotger, literally "famous with the spear," from hruod- "fame, glory" + ger "spear" (see gar (n.)). "The name was introduced from Norman where OG Rodger was reinforced by the cognate ON Hroðgeirr"

    Delta Dawn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can’t remember the last time I met a Roger. I know a Magnus, which is unusual in the US.

    Marc Booker
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This explains the common British slang term "rogering" as a synonym for having s**. The man is using his "spear."

    Empresslockness
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't forget variations of the name i.e., Roderick, Rodrigo and Rodriguez.

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    #26

    The word ‘vaccine’ comes from the Latin word ‘vaccinus’, which means “of the cow”. This is because the guy that first popularized the treatment and term prevented smallpox in children by exposing them to material from a cowpox blister, a milder form of smallpox.

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    Karen Weiss
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jenner first used matter from cowpox, a complaint of cows which transferred to milkmaids. Previously Turkish women would use matter from smallpox sores to innoculate their children with Geraldton positive results. This form of innoculation was introduced to England , called variolation (variola-smallpox) was introduced to England by Lady Mary Wortley Montague , the wife of a diplomat posted in Constantinople , now Istanbul. Previous to the use in Turkey, it was used in China and Africa.

    rodger coghlan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Milkmaids and many others used cowpox to prevent small pox (there is a large pox) long before Jenner did

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "matter used in vaccination," 1846, from French vaccin, noun use of adjective, from Latin vaccina, fem. of vaccinus "pertaining to a cow" (see vaccination). Related: Vaccinal; vaccinic.

    Mary Kelly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and small pox is small in deference to the "great" pox, syphilis

    Mario Strada
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cow = Vacca, in both Italian and Spanish (Cowboy = Vaquero)

    Christian Lainesse
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, vaccine is the French name of cowpox. The French "vaccine' is the word derived from the latin and the treatment is derived from the French.

    dev mehta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So where does 'anti-vaxxer' come from?

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    #27

    So the origin of the seemingly mundane word "thing" makes for a surprisingly interesting story! It dates back to 930 AD with the founding of the *Alþingi* (anglicized as *Althing*), which is the national parliament of Iceland. In Icelandic/Old Norse, it's *al-* (“universal, general”) + *thing* (“assembly, meeting”). Fun fact: The Althing is the oldest active parliament in the world! Icelandic being a fairly literal language, the Althing met at *Lögberg* ("Law Rock") in the middle of *Þingvellir* (anglicized as *Thingvellir* and meaning "Thing Field" or "assembly field"). Then, in Old English (Middle Ages), *althing* was borrowed as the word for parliament but was shortened to just *thing*. Over time, the meaning of *thing* was broadened to any place where people got together and decided on laws. Then, *thing* became the issue you brought to the parliament. For example, "my neighbor is stealing my goats." Finally, *thing* simply came to mean any object, hence the meaning we have for it today!

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    Marek Čtrnáct
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have visited Thingvellir -- a nice place, not just for the historical meaning but also because two continental plates meet there. There's literally a plain, then a tall rock face, and when you get on it, there's another plain.

    Shyla Bouche
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *hisses at the goat-stealing neighbor*

    Trond Hermansen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There were "thing" before the Icelandic "All-thing". The settlers in Iceland just brought the old ways of the laws with them from their homelands; mainly Norway.

    Dorthe Schou-Nielsen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Danish parliament is called 'Folketinget' translating to 'the people's thing'.

    David Paterson
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. We also get the days of the week from old Norse. Each day is named after a Norse god.

    Roald
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will call my garage with stuff op to the ceiling Thingvellir from now on. 'where is the screwdriver?' 'somewhere in the thingvellir'

    Gypsy Lee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So it’s like a whole thing..

    Rob Woollard
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also the hand from the addams family lol

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    #28

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones While making stone sculptures, it was highly likely that the carver will make a mistake which cannot be undone. Especially if he was not very skilled. To hide their mistakes, they used to apply wax and shape it accordingly. The sculpture with wax was seen as impure and with flaws representing dishonesty of the carver. The Spanish for wax is cera, hence the sculptures without wax were called "sin cera" in Spanish. From there came the word sincere i.e. without any flaw or pure as archaic meaning and now meanimg honest.

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    kathoco
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In linguistics, we call this a folk etymology. It sounds plausible but it’s really just made up. Another one is that asparagus comes from « sparrow grass » because sparrows liked to eat it.

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    pebs
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In reality "sincere" comes from the Latin "sincerus", propr. «not mixed, made of a single element, of a single substance», and therefore «pure» (from the same root *sem-, *sim- «one, only one» of semel and simplex)]

    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not accurate. Sincere comes from the Latin sincerus, meaning clean or pure. This may itself comes from the Latin sin (one) and crescere (growth), having one root. But the last part is debatable. "Sin cera" (without wax) and "sincera" (sincere) are often used as examples of homophones in Spanish, but they do not share a common origin.

    Mavis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The photo is Michelangelo's David. Absolutely stunningly beautiful.

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And detailed, apparently. I was just admiring the anatomical detail in the hand.

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    Apatheist Account2
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My favourite sculpting advice: How does one sculpt an elephant? Take a very large piece of marble, and chip away anything that doesn't look like an elephant.

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And that advice would still do nothing for those of us that don't have the artistic talent, unfortunately.

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    Elizabeth Elliot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wax was added to cheap pottery, not statues in ancient times; the potters used the phrase sine cera not sculptors.

    Phil Green
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Latin - sincerus, meaning genuine.

    Fernando Álvarez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I made some research, and it seems that the Latin adjective sincerus existed long before Spanish was born. Sincerus meant simple, not mixed, and was said about milk, for example. Later, it was also used to describe someone who is honest, sincere.

    Trophy Husband
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Oxford English Dictionary and most scholars state that sincerity from sincere is derived from the Latin sincerus meaning clean, pure, sound (1525–35). Sincerus may have once meant "one growth" (not mixed), from sin- (one) and crescere (to grow).

    Leeza Martinez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ironic that these fact aren't really sincere

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    #29

    The Egyptians had a really big temple in Memphis, which they called _Chawitkurpitach_. When Egypt got big, the Akkadians assumed the word was the name of the country, but they gave up on trying to say it, so they just called the country _Khiku'upta'akh_. When the ancient Greeks started learning about Egypt, they found the Akkadian word. They _also_ gave up on trying to say the name so they started calling the country _Aikupitio_. A few centuries later the Greeks decided _again_ that this was too hard to pronounce so they changed it to _Eguptos_. A few hundred years later the Romans decided _Eguptos_ was too hard to pronounce so they started calling the country _Ægyptus_. This continued for centuries until the French decided it too was too complicated and just called the place _Egypte_, which the English then borrowed without the second 'e' to form _Egypt_. So basically "Egypt" came from "Egypte" which came from "Ægyptus" which came from "Eguptos" which came from "Aikuptio" which came from "Khiku'upta'akh" which came from "Chawitkurpitach" _which was never the name of the country in the first place_

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    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    also; coptic. The script and christian egyptian group, comes from eguptos.

    NakNakNak
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Yucatan Peninsula is so named because when settlers arrived, they asked the natives the name of the land. Yeeeeeeeeeah "Yucatan" is actually loosely based on the natives' words for "I have no idea what you're saying to me."

    David Phillips
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And from "Egypt" we get Gypsies, who aren't Egyptian.

    NakNakNak
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One step further, the (now offensive) "getting gypped" to describe getting ripped off or tricked.

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    Tiramisu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if the Arabic name for Egypt, “misr” is more reflective of the name.

    Ricardo Ferreira
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, how the Egyptians called their country before we begin calling it Egypt?

    El Dee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    AFAIK the word 'gypsy' comes from the word Egypt. Unknown foreigners were simply referred to as Egyptians then morphed into gypsy..

    LizzieBoredom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Allegedly, there is graffiti in the Great Pyramid (put there by the workman while building it) such as "Pharoh Sux" and "Tut On This".

    Leeza Martinez
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and all of this happened on Beale St... neat

    Jay Weigel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But today's Egyptians call their country "Misr".

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    #30

    The first computer "bug" was an actual bug, and that's where the computer-program sense of the word comes from. A moth got into the electro-mechanical Mark I computer at Harvard (built in the 1940s, and considered in some sense to be the first real computer) and gummed up the works. So there's a twofer.

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    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first computer was built in Manchester, UK. Not Harvard.

    Bleau
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first computer (not todays version )was 2,000 years old and found in Greece on a Roman era ship and they still don't understand how it works

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    Henrik Schmidt
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not quite true. The word "bug" for "error" was in use before this. From Hacker's Dictionary: "The text of the log entry (from September 9, 1947), reads "1545 Relay #70 Panel F (moth) in relay. First actual case of bug being found". This wording establishes that the term was already in use at the time in its current specific sense -- and Hopper herself reports that the term `bug' was regularly applied to problems in radar electronics during WWII."

    angied4liberty
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The world's first electronic digital computer was built on the Iowa State campus from 1939 through 1942 by John V. Atanasoff, a professor of physics and mathematics, and Clifford Berry, an engineering graduate student

    margaret carradus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mind, what is a computer? An abacus? An analytical engine?

    margaret carradus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Edison is quoted as writing he had a bug in his phonograph system that he had to work out, apparently

    Evelyn Haskins
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WEL!! Moths aren't bugs!! Bugs are sucking insects. So in ENGLISH one must say a moth got into the works!

    Catherine Spencer-Mills
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Coined by Grace Hopper who removed the bug and thereby fixed the computer.

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny they say „build in the 1940s“ , because it was build between 1943 and 1944, while the Z3 by Conrad Zuse was build in 1941.

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    #31

    Bingo comes pretty directly from the "I counquered" part of "veno vidi vici". Vici is "I conquered", but vinco is "I conquer". Going from Latin on to other languages, v often turned to b and c often turned to g, so Bingo literally means "I conquer" (or "I win", the more relevant translation) Colonel is pronounced like kernel because we use the Italian spelling (colonello) and French pronunciation (coronel) The Latin word for giraffe was cameloparus, literally "camel leopard" Roman men could add nicknames onto their legal names. Caesar means "curly" and Caligula means "little boots". I don't know that it was anything to do with a nickname, but Cicero means chickpea, and he would draw a chickpea next to his name Sinister is literally "left handed". Dexter is "right handed". A peninsula is an "almost island" (paene insula) Circumference means "carry around" Lesbian comes from the Greek island Lesbos, home of Sappho, but Lesbia was an actual name in ancient times. Ridiculous comes from ridere, "smile, laugh", so ridiculous means laughable Ululate means to howl or wail, but it comes from ululu, meaning "owl" Best of all: Latin didn't have any real words for yes or no. One of the most common ways to say yes was "sic" which basically meant "it is so" or "thusly". This is the origin of the Spanish word si.

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    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you have every heard an owl screech at night that is closer to the mark than you might think. Cartoons only give you the pleasant "who-who" noise. But some of their other calls can sound like a portal to hell opened up and something crawled out and is pissed.

    jimmy pop
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The genus "screech owl" (megascops) bears its name for a reason.

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    Sara Nobre
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Colonel is pronounced like kernel because we use the Italian spelling (colonello) and French pronunciation (coronel)" Thank you! Since English is not my 1st language, I didn't know if I was spelling wrong, listening wrong, or something else wrong. Now I understand why.

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are so many foreign words incorporated into the English language that the rules don't always apply. It must be very confusing to learn our language.

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    Bec
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember a story I was reading as a child and had the words colonel and lieutenant and reading them phonetically, I think it was a few years before it clicked what the words were

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1680s, "make ridiculous" (a sense now obsolete); c. 1700, "treat with contemptuous merriment, make sport of, deride," from ridicule (n.) or else from French ridiculer, from ridicule.

    Jrog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, the french word came from the latin though, so this definition is not wrong.

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    e gads
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Draw a chickpea?a circle?

    Senjo Krane
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Sic' : I see this where something is quoted incorrectly or someone states something as fact when it isn't so I'm a bit confused here.

    Luna Crow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Sic' is used when the text is quoted verbatim. The purpose is to tell the reader that it was the writer of the quoted piece of writing who made the error, not the writer of the current article. So basically the current writer is saying that 'it is so' of the person being quoted, and not their bad.

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    kathoco
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Latin teacher claimed that Cicero had some mole or growth on his face in the shape of a chickpea and that’s where the nickname came from.

    Jrog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "bingo" one is wrong (as many others, according to comments here). Bingo is an american word, first attested in the 1920s, stemming from the onomatopoeia of the ring of the bell that marked the win in a game of luck. The bell sound was commonly referred as "bing", thus "Bing-o!". Traditionally to win the game one would have to call "House!" or "Tombola" (in the original Neapolitan game). Later on the term "Bingo" took hold in America and became used interchangeably, until it became eponymous for the game itself.

    Rob Dietrich
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry to say it, the Caesar name is wrong though. It's way cooler: It's a Cognomen (by-name) passed down in the Julian family. It was thought to stem from caesus=(being) cut, alluding to Caesar being born via caesarian section, giving him superhuman abilities by not being "born" the traditional way. Today it is believed to stem from an ancient carthagian word meaning war elephant, making "Caesar"= slayer of a war elephant, an honorific that was then passed down the family line

    Nevid
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Colonel is not an Italian spelling with a French pronounciation, it's a French spelling with the pronounciation of an other version of the same word. The spelling comes from the French word "colonel" which is pronounced "colonel" in French. The pronounciation kernel comes from an alternative form of the word in middle French, which was couronnel (most likely a misinterpretation of "colonna" (column) into "corona" (crown)).

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    #32

    My favorite has to do with the similarities between Portuguese “obrigado” (thanks) and Japanese “arigatō” (thanks). While it's true that Japan had a lot of Portugese influence, arigatō has been found in written records dating well before Portugese contact. In other words, it’s a coincidence!

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    Delta Dawn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ok but how does rigatoni play into all this?

    NakNakNak
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oo oo I know a fun one about this! Portuguese and Japanese naval vessels had a lot of contact with one another way back when, to a point where the Portuguese "Não, e?" or "Isn't it?"--not a question, more like the Canadian English "Eh?"-- was adopted to the Japanese "Ne?" which is used in much the same way today. "Sou desu ka?" is a question: "Isn't it (like that)?" "Sou desu ne?" is more like a British "It's like that, innit?"

    Nitka Tsar
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And these coincidences are called „homophones“. Don‘t tell that to homophobes though.

    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Arigato comes from two other Japanese phrases. Arigatashi "to be" and Katai "difficult". It derives from the idea that "living is difficult".

    Nandros M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I found strange coincidence the fact that the japanese goddess/mother Amaterasu is similar to the greek in laconic dialect "A matera su" (your mother)

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    #33

    Shenanigans! It is derived from the Irish expression, “I play the fox” or “sionnachuighim”. Eventually, the word became anglicized to become shenanigans, but had carried the same connotation in Ireland previous to its propagation in the English-speaking world.

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    Chewie Baron
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My all time favourite word!

    Pangoro
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine too! I came here to say just that!

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    Christian Fuller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, "What Does the Fox Say?" is a song about shenanigans?

    Stannous Flouride
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another is "Hooligans" -The Oxford English Dictionary states that the word may have originated from the surname of a rowdy Irish family in a music hall song of the 1890s. Clarence Rook, in his 1899 book, Hooligan Nights, wrote that the word came from Patrick Hoolihan (or Hooligan), an Irish bouncer and thief who lived in London.

    Riley Quinn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This word aptly describes US politics, so we need to bring it back into regular usage.

    El Dee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is lovely, it can mean anything you want it to mean..

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    #34

    "Disaster" Comes from 'dis' meaning bad, and "aster" or "astron" meaning star. It comes from the days of astrology and such where scientists believes events were foretold in the sky and stars.

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    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "anything that befalls of ruinous or distressing nature; any unfortunate event," especially a sudden or great misfortune, 1590s, from French désastre (1560s), from Italian disastro, literally "ill-starred

    JB
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Romeo and Juliet's relationship was a disaster

    Kishku
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So distopia for instance: bad place.

    Dan Flo
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I belive the modern term for that kind of scientist today is "influencer".

    Mary Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, that belief pre-dates modern science by thousands of years. But it was astrologers who first took a huge interest in the heavenly bodies, and so that's where astronomy eventually branched off from.

    Cal the dragon (she/her)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew this from school, but it's still pretty awesome

    #35

    The word *cue* (meaning a long stick used in billiards) comes from the French word *queue*, meaning 'tail'. The English word *queue* also comes from the French word. The Latin word *cauda*, from which *queue* ultimately derives, also brought us English *coda*, but that comes via Italian instead of French. The word *cue* (meaning an indication that it's time for something to happen, or as a verb, to give such an indication) comes from the letter Q. It was written as an abbreviation for *quando* (Latin, 'when') on actors' partial copies of play scripts. To save on paper, your copy of the script wouldn't include every line—just the ones right before your lines, marked with Q. So you'd have to learn your *cues* to know when your line was coming.

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So we should mind our Ps and Qs...er... peas and queues, uh...cues and pees...

    Hey!
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I started primary grade 1-2, we had to say "Q" as the "unmentionable letter" because it sounded like "cul" "butt in English. A nun was teaching us. My father started an upraising with the school board and won after 2 years. I was too young to know what he actually did but my older brothers talked about it once in a while.

    Steve Zagieboylo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So 'cue' comes from 'queue' but 'cue' comes from 'Q.'

    Alan Christensen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the word *queue* is a Q followed by four silent letters.

    Kris92
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those four letters are way more polite than people when it comes to waiting in a line.

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    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also interesting. The letter Q comes from an egpytian hieroglyph which was a picture of a monkey with a tail. Pronounced qof. The arabic letter Q still looks the same (lowercase q).

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    #36

    I love the origin of "Berzerk." It comes from old Norse for "bear-shirt", where vikings would put on shirts made of the hide of skinned bears and I guess get possessed by the spirit of the bear and just go absolutely apes**t on whatever

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    Hugh Cookson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sort of the same as Amok - as in 'run amok' - In Malay or Tagalog. Basically going nuts and going on a killing spree, although Berserkers would, according to myth, wind themselves up with a concoction of psychadellic mushrooms, beer and strong spirits before launching into battle - scary s**t.

    Jane Alexander
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've heard that 'assassin' comes from hashish, same idea.

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    Dan Bexell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Norse used what they called "kennings" in their sagas. For example, rocks in the ocean were called "sea bones, a sword might be called "wand of wounds", a shield might be called a "net of spears". My personal favorite is the hero in Beowulf. Beo means bee, wulf meant Wolf, which itself what a thief was called, thus Beowulf meant Bee thief, which is a bear, so Beowulf's name really means Bear.

    Trond Hermansen
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another explanation of the word "Berzerk" is that it could mean "bare" and "serk"—the latter being the undershirt (worn under a tunic). Thus the Vikings would fight in the "bare shirt"; i.e without chainmail or armour.

    brukernavn340
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1. Berserk. 2. It's pretty much a myth.

    Dan Flo
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of the stories about beserkers are probably myths, but they are mentioned in very old writings and were most likely a real thing. I find the Úlfhéðnar more interesting though. Not sure if it was like this: Berserk= bear men, Úlfhéðnar = wolf men, or if the Úlfhéðnar was the OG beserkers. Might been like The School of the Bear and The School of the Wolf in The Witcher lol. But no matter what, they did seem bat-sh#t crazy enough to cause myths about werewolves in Europe long after they were gone.

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    Eris Kallisti
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🎶 My love for you is ticking clock...BERSERKER! 🎶

    Squilmo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is exactly what I came here to say! 🤘

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    Duncan Rogers
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, they ate certain ground fungi and hallucinated. And then went apes**t on anything near by with a pulse.

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    #37

    Soccer! Started off as "Association Football" then became "Assoc Football" or "assoc" for short. "Then it got the nickname "assoccer" (they called rugby "rugger") and eventually just "soccer."

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    Yeah, okay.
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I see why "football" is used everywhere else.

    Rahul Pawa
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sure if this is right, but when I read this before it was claimed that this (meaning "association football", and thus "soccer") was the British term for the sport.

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    Mihai Mara
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is some "Hold the door! -> Hodor!" attempt of explaining the origin of soccer.

    Boreddd🇺🇦
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought it came from socks tbh. You know, cuz they had super long socks?

    El Dee
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And rugby is actually 'Rugby Football' named after the school where it was first played..

    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not according to the official MLS definition, where in the 1800's there were two sports called Football in the UK. Rugby Football and Soccer Football/Association Football (Association had no connection tot he word Soccer), the US used both terms as well, but over times dropped Rugby from Rugby Football as the game took a different trajectory than its British origins, and dropped football from Soccer Football. In the UK they went the other way. I will trust the official MLS explainition which is accepted by FIFA

    AndyR
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rugger is different sport.

    Huddo's sister
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Similar to the use of AFL in Australia. The game is officially called Aussie Rules Football and AFL is the Australian Football League, but AFL has now become the accepted name of the sport as well. The VFL, which was the largest state Aussie Rules league remains the name of the league, but also can be used synonymously with the 'reserves' as most reserve teams for the AFL are linked with a VFL team. Also, Aussie Rules was the only football we really had in Australia for much of our history, therefore we of course use soccer as it became popular later.

    Sheena Leversedge Wood
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    instead of just continuing to call it football, like everywhere else. and then saying we're wrong for continuing to call it football, even though they're the ones that decided to call it something else, not the other way around

    Marion Banks-wilkinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So while the word soccer began in the UK we say football more, because the USA insists that their strange version of rugby (when almost no one kicks a ball )is football.

    Evelyn Haskins
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Soccer is (according to my English Father) just slang for Football. And all the wretched rugbies and "footballs" are really just "handovids".

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    #38

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology : Cliche, is derived from the sound of dapping ink on typeface - anyone who has used an ink roller will undertsand the sound of sticky ink - so its the repeated sound of regularly and therefore overused piece of type ...

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    Ash
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And a "stereotype" was a piece of writing that they copied so many times that they created a specific single piece with the text on it rather than re-setting the letters every time. So a stereotype is a piece of printing you can make look the same over and over and over again.

    brukernavn340
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One also use cliches in printing.

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And you roll the ink over strong (stereos or stereo) -type.

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    #39

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones Etymology: calcium, calculator, calculate, calculus, abacus all share an origin in the word 'calx', Latin for stone.

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're learning French, a "calque" is a stubborn bit of your first language that holds over in French, like how I'm always mixing up the genders of objects despite being otherwise bilingual. The best translation for "calque" is "a pebble in your shoe you can't get rid of."

    Nevid
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More generally "un calque" is a traced reproduction (when you copy an image through transparent paper). The resulting image is identical to the original, but on a new support.

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    Bill Swallow
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just had treatment for kidney stones. The doctor's report said they found a 12 mm calculus in my left kidney. There was also a 6 mm calculus and a 4 mm calculus in there.

    Richard Henderson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because stones are hard and so is calculus.

    #40

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones 'bad' in English apparently comes from an old word for 'hermaphrodite', but what is also interesting is that Persian has the word 'بد' (bad) which means the exact same thing but developed independently, despite the fact that the languages are related. And funnily enough, 'بهتر' (behter) looks a lot like 'better', and it means 'better' too.

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    zububonsai
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And in Hindi it's "behtar" ( =Englisch "better"/ German "besser").

    censorshipsucks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well that's not surprising since persian is indo-european.

    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    English "bad" comes from a different root than the Persian word, in spite of similar sounds and meaning. English "bad" derives from like words meaning weak and ugly. The reference hear baeddel meant effeminate. The Persian word likely derives from "vat" which I think related to stinkiness. I did a whole bunch of research on the roots of the words "evil" and "mal", and this came up, but now I don't remember it exactly. But the OP is correct, in that they evolved independently to mean the same thing.

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    Mario Strada
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a Iranian girlfriend once. She answered the phone and said, clearly "Chi e?". That means "Who's this?" in Italian and while not many people would answer the phone like that, one could. We answer with "Pronto" (ready). I asked her what she said and while the spelling is wildly different, what I heard did mean "Who's This" in Persian and she confirmed it. Identical to the Italian.

    Dan Flo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The word bad was also combined with the word wrong by the The Chosen One in medieval China to form the word badong as an alernative word for killing, since killing is both bad and wrong, and thus needed a stronger word for it.

    Leigh Jones
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wars are to blame here - anyone who wasn't a soldier got saddled with a misnomer.

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    #41

    This Online Thread Is Dedicated To The Coolest Origins Of Words And Here Are 45 Of The Most Interesting Ones **Orange** The word for the fruit came long before the word for the colour. We just called things which were the colour *orange*, yellow-red. Additionally, William of Orange (William III of England) has nothing to do with either the colour or the fruit.

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    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    late 14c., in reference to the fruit of the orange tree (late 13c. as a surname), from Old French orange, orenge (12c., Modern French orange), from Medieval Latin pomum de orenge, from Italian arancia, originally narancia (Venetian naranza), an alteration of Arabic naranj, from Persian narang, from Sanskrit naranga-s "orange tree," a word of uncertain origin.

    Auntriarch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yellow red? I have just been reading a book with a quotation from Dumas where he describes mandarin oranges as "yellow, verging on red, in colour". I wondered why he didn't just say orange.

    Abner_Mality
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about oranges from Morocco? The tangerine from Tangiers

    Marla Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Spanish word naranja is both the color and the fruit and comes from the Arabic naranj.

    Dan Flo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Sweden (and some other countries) it is called apelsin, that means something like "Chinese apple". Im suprised the same people didnt name bananas as "South East Asian Cucumbers".

    Lizz
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always find it funny that the rulers of the Netherlands originated from France ( van Oranje -> de Orange in French ) whilst the English and Belgian rulers originated from "Von Saxen-Coburg". ( Germany )

    Marion Banks-wilkinson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Hanovers inherited the Crown because they were descended from James VI of Scotland who was also James I of England and Wales. He in turn was descended from Henry VII the first Tudor monarch. He had a distant claim to the Lancastrian branch of the descendants of Edward III

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    Robert Trebor
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Orange is a place in southern France

    Kat
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. And through trade with the Orange, oranges were imported in the northern areas of Europe.... The Dutch royals originated from there. Carrots were bred (correct word?) In an orange colour, because they wanted everything orange to honour the royals ...

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    Sonia M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Swedish they are called "apelsin" which means "apple from China" 🍊

    Michael Largey
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, is William of Orange significant because he's the only British monarch you can't rhyme with? Well, at least that may be more dignified than having a name people can rhyme with - like Victoria Regina.

    Delta Dawn
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Orangutans are orange. Coincidence??? …. Yes.

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    #42

    Here are some of my favorite recent ones, summed up very basically. I can expand on any of these as well! First of all, etymology facts: **"Scuttlebutt"** was first a nautical term for a cask (butt) of drinking water with a hole (scuttle) for drawing it out. The term came to mean "rumor" or "gossip" because sailors would gather to idly chat around the cask. It is the predecessor of the term "watercooler talk" for workplace gossip. Before 1860, the word **"pollution"** commonly meant "semen," specifically semen released somewhere other than during conjugal activities, or "defilement" or "desecration." Also, the words "seminal," "disseminate," and "seminary" derive from the Latin "semen." **"Meteor"** comes from the Greek metéōron, literally meaning "thing high up." In 15th c. English, "meteor" could refer to any atmospheric phenomena, which were differentiated by various classifications of meteors. Hence "meteorology" as the study of atmospheric conditions, rather than just meteors. Classifications included: - aerial meteors – notable winds and tornadoes and such - aqueous meteors – water-based atmospheric phenomena such as rain, snow, hail, dew, frost, and clouds - luminous meteors – auroras, rainbows, and other light-based phenomena - igneous meteors – fiery-looking phenomena such as lightning and shooting stars Around 1590, the English word began to take on the more specific, fiery extraterrestrial meaning we use today. **"Ambivalence"** was first a psychological term, literally meaning "strength on both sides." Paul Eugen Bleuler, the psychologist who coined it in 1910, also coined the terms schizophrenia ("a splitting of the mind") and autism (from Greek autos, "self"). **"Feisty"** ("spirited, lively") arose in 1896. Before, feist meant "small dog," a shortening of "fysting curre" ("stinking cur"), wherein fyst meant "to break wind," supposedly conflated because ladies would blame their gas on their lapdogs. In sum, "feisty" = "farty dog." **"Alchemy"** is from the Greek khemeioa, which was either from Khemia, a name for Egypt meaning "land of black earth," or the Greek khymatos "that which is poured out." It was often used as a scientific term until the 1600s when "chemistry" arose from it, leaving "alchemy" with its more mystical sense. The word **"tabby"** came to refer to cats in the 1690s due to their fur pattern, which resembles a striped silk taffeta also called tabby, originally (via French) from the name of the Baghdad neighborhood Attabiy, where rich silks were made. The area was named after the Umayyad prince Attab. **"Clone"** as a term for the production of genetically identical individuals was coined in 1963 by J.B.S. Haldane. It was predated by the horticultural sense of "clon" or "clone," the process whereby a new plant is created using cuttings from another. Both are from the Ancient Greek klōn, "twig." **"Jargon,"** adopted from French in the 14th century, originally meant "unintelligible talk, gibberish; chattering, jabbering." It wryly took on its current meaning, "phraseology peculiar to a sect or profession," in the 1650s due to the fact that such speech was unintelligible to outsiders. **"Moxie,"** (general use from the 1930s) comes from the brand name of a bitter syrup first marketed as the medicine "Moxie Nerve Food" in 1876, then sold as a soft drink starting in 1884. The brand may be from a Native American Abenaki word for "dark water," from Maine lake and river names.

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    Senjo Krane
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I ever get another dog, I'm gonna call it Feisty!

    NakNakNak
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd appreciate this one: Cerberus' name in the original Greek was "Kerberos", from their word for "spotted". Hades, lord of the dark underworld and king of the dead, named his gate dog Spot lol

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    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1630s, "striped silk taffeta," from French tabis "a rich, watered silk" (originally striped), earlier atabis (14c.), from Arabic 'attabi, from 'Attabiyah, a neighborhood of Baghdad where such cloth was made, said to be named for prince 'Attab of the Omayyad dynasty. As an adjective from 1630s.

    Dan Flo
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is why you dont wanna choke up on all the pollution in the air. So... heavy smog in Japan would be called bukk... Nope, I wont go there. Sorry.

    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "and "seminary" derive from the Latin "semen."" Insert inappropriate Catholic priest joke. Also, "farty dog" made me laugh.

    Richard Henderson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I now choose the word “metéōron“ to describe my freinds who’ve smoked too much weed and start doing dumb sh¡t.

    Dan Bexell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're a wordsmith after my own heart.

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    #43

    Ampersand (&) used to be a letter in the English alphabet. It came after Z in the in alphabet. In the alphabet song, after you finished with Z, kids would sing: “and per se and” which is where the name ampersand comes from. “And per se and” basically means “also and as itself”.

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    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, it's a stylised Et (french/latin for "and")

    RafCo (he/him)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is awesomely not true. Ampersand was never a letter. It was a stylized versión of the Latin "Et", and in some Roman documents it was sometimes reduced to a single symbol. But it was never formalized into the English alphabet, or any other alphabet.

    David Phillips
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understood it was " a per se = and", & it was never a letter.

    LAWLAWLAW
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought @ was an ampersand not &

    Richard Henderson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now if we can just sort W out into a nice, concise sound too. I mean, wth is one letter named after another letter? Let’s just call it “wu”.

    Nadine Debard
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's called esperluette in French.

    #44

    Etymology: Shibboleth was a Hebrew word for a part of a plant. But at one point it was used to determine whether someone belonged to one cultural group or another because the groups pronounced the word differently. Now, it refers to words and phrases like those that "out" someone as part of a particular group whether it's by pronunciation or understanding. For example, get a native German speaker to say "squirrel" and they almost definitely won't be able to.

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    zububonsai
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An Ucrainian tried to teach me (German, speaking basic Russian and a little bit of Polish) the Ucrainian word for bread, "pal'yanitza". We ended up laughing on the floor. It's the one word no Russian is able to articulate correctly, she said, and by this some Russian invaders trying to mimick Ucrainians (to avoid POW) were captured.

    JB
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Dutch resistance used the word "Scheveningen."

    EvilNob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's because Oachkatzl (oak cat) sounds waaaay cooler than squirrel.

    Pizzagirl 91
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it's much more fun to get Russians, Brits or French people to say "Eichhörnchen"!

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    k sand
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What does it sound like if a native German speaker tries to say 'squirrel'? What's an equivalent type of word a native English speaker can't say?

    Laura Mende (Human)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm German and I can tell you the "s", directly followed by "q" is impossible to do for us. Also the double "rr", this is a combination we can't do. It sounds like "swirrel", "skriwwel" or something like that...

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    Kathleen M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like the Irish trying to say "purple burglar alarm." There are YouTube videos of some amusing attempts.

    zububonsai
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or a Spanish person to say the German "Straße" ("street"). Made my Spanish roommate almost cry.... 🥹

    VonBlade
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get a native Frenchman to say pas de capitulation. (obviously a joke based upon British stereotypes of our trusted allies the French)

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    #45

    Sophomore! It means "wise fool" in Ancient Greek I also like: • "hazard", which meant "the die" in Arabic, because gambling was considered risky • "trivia", which meant "three roads" in Latin, because patricians looked down upon such intersections with disdain, as being insignificant and full of commoners • "candidate", which means "white robed" • "avocado", which in Nahuatl shared a definition with "testicle" • "orchid", which in Greek meant "testicle" • "testify", which is a cognate of "testicle" • "porcelain", which means "pig's vagina" • "vanilla", which means "vagina" • "girl", which could once refer to either gender • "toilet", which used to mean "closet" in French, and many, many more!

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    Dan Flo
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now I can neither serve guacamole in a porcelain bowl or use an orchid/vanilla scented body wash without blushing again.

    Hailey Strong
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a wise fool apparently

    Joshua Russell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have fun with it! Pretty sure "wise fool" strikes anyone who has ever known or been a sophomore of anything as being very accurate. :)

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    zububonsai
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "testify"and "testicle": both from "testes" ="witness". ---- "testiculus" literally "little witness (of copulation)". Source: I'm a Latin teacher and learnt that fact from my Latin teacher ☺️.

    Nevid
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Toilet does not mean closet. It comes from toilette which is a small cloth (from toile + the diminutive suffix ette). It was then used to designate the cloth you use to clean yourself and by extension the act of cleaning yourself. This is actually what "toilette" in the singular mean in French, "grooming" or "cleaning". "Un cabinet de toilette" is a grooming/cleaning closet (the closet part being "cabinet" and not "toilette"), which became an euphemism for the place you poop, similar to how you say the bathroom in English. In modern French, the act of cleaning/grooming is called "la toilette" in the singular, and the toilet is "les toilettes" in the plural. That's why "eau de toilette" is called like that. It's grooming water.

    Huddo's sister
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At one stage the term Water Closet (or just WC) was used in English to mean toilet, which maybe where OP got confused?

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    Analyn Lahr
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So instead of call a group of mixed gendered people "guys" like a lot of folk do, we should call them "girls".

    Ann T
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This post seems a bit fixated.

    Henry Russell
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so im going have some vagina in a pig's vagina bowl. maybe with a side of testicles. one testicle on the top for extra measure. but first i got to poop in the closet

    Senjo Krane
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does testify come from testicle? Maybe the interrogator would squeeze them until you spoke the truth...

    Bonnie Buttons
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The word "porcelain" seems to come from an Italian word for a type of shell ("porcellana"); the "c" is pronounced as "ch" as in "China". The porcelain was shiny and smooth and reminded people of the shell etc etc boom "china".

    gerard julien
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    toilet (n.) 1530s, earliest in English in an obsolete sense "cover or bag for clothes," from French toilette "a cloth; a bag for clothes," diminutive of toile "cloth, net"

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