“What’s A Common Rule That You Break Regularly Because You Fundamentally Disagree With It?” (45 Answers)
InterviewSome say that rules are meant to be broken, and so broken they will be, be it traffic regulations or the dos and don'ts of playing Uno.
These are just a couple of examples of rules that some people break regularly. And while the reasons for doing that might differ with each person, some do it simply because they fundamentally disagree with them.
Members of the ‘Ask Reddit’ community recently shared what rules they refuse to follow, because of said reason, after redditor ‘RGDJR’ started a thread about it. Covering everything from orders and regulations to expectations and social norms, netizens assembled quite an extensive list of rules that, in their opinion, should be broken, so scroll down to find them, and see if you agree with any of them.
Below you will also find Bored Panda’s interview with the person who started the thread, user RGDJR, who was kind enough to answer a few of our questions.
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“Breakfast foods.” Ive had coworkers walk in on me eating steak and mashed potatoes with asparagus at 7 AM for breakfast. When questioned I always respond “I don’t subscribe to societal norms of proper meal time foods”
Edit: I woke up to a ton of people agreeing with me so it’s clear ive been chosen as the leader of the rebellion. We march on Kellog’s headquarters at dawn
Automatic respect because someone is elderly.
They get common courtesy, but everyone has to earn respect/authority before they can start bossing people around.
My state says I'm not allowed to provide alcohol to my own children until they are 21.
I will not let them be carted off to a bar on their 21st birthday unless they are already very familiar with alcohol and how different ABV% affects their bodies. I do not care what the law says, their first drink will come from me in the safety of their own home.
In a recent interview with Bored Panda, u/RGDJR shared that the thing that encouraged him to ask this particular question was a rule that he himself breaks on the regular. “I had just returned from some travel with a colleague and found that she and I differ on the need to put your phone into airplane mode before takeoff,” he said.
“She obeys this rule religiously. I, on the other hand, have never put my phone into airplane mode. My position is: if it's actually important, the airline wouldn't just ask people to do it, you'd need to show the flight attendant proof… or your phone would automatically switch to airplane mode when it sensed that you were moving at a certain speed. In any case, I don't buy that it's actually necessary. And it was this debate with my colleague that inspired the question. I was curious what other rules people break willingly.”
Tipping everywhere. Not exactly a rule but I ain't gonna tip where I haven't received an actual service where someone has to go out of their way to do something for me. I don't care if I get mean looks for it.
Not this again. US and Europe have very different tipping cultures and we will only get into a fight over this.
Account sharing. I bought the game, service, movie, etc, I get to decide who uses it
What family would not do that? I am not going to buy my son the exact same game I have, just so he can play! What?
The OP admitted that the volume of answers from the redditors caught him off guard; what surprised him even more was how many of them he agreed with.
“In fact, the top response is one that I'm aligned on wholeheartedly,” he said. “The idea that people shouldn't discuss their salary with each other is bulls**t. Talking salary helps to ensure pay equity. I have a team of people who work for me and I would never dissuade them from talking about what they make.”
YouTube TOS says I can't block ads. The day they can stop me is the day I stop watching Youtube.
Edit: 8000 upvotes and yet there's a lot of copium in this thread over me still blocking ads.
I *actually* use my turn signal/blinker.
I eat cookie dough and I eat Nutella with a spoon
Jaywalking. If the street is obviously clear, I'm not going to wait for nothing.
Different rules and expectations in different countries. Germans in particular are very keen on everyone waiting for the man to turn green before crossing, even if they ca see hundreds of metres in each direction that there's no road traffic. I don't follow suit and get some funny looks whenever I'm there.
“Pirating content is also an answer that struck a chord with me,” the redditor continued. “I make every effort to buy media. But if the world won't sell it to me, I'll take to the seas. I also thought there was some great advice on getting scientific papers from the authors as opposed to paying for them.”
Rules about pirating content that I am geographically restricted from streaming legally.
Not expressing emotions to appear “strong/tough”. I had a hard year last year and I couldn’t hold it in and opened up with 3 coworkers I trusted. We have since then developed a very strong friendship and even since we all left out last company, we became really close friends.
If more people normalized mental illness the world would be a much better place.
Despite agreeing with fellow netizens that some rules are meant to be broken—in some cases, regularly—the OP told Bored Panda that he absolutely believes that rules are necessary for people.
“Rules often exist for a very good reason. They help ensure a (generally) peaceful society. They deter criminal behavior that might endanger us. They guarantee that my football team is going to move 15 yards up the field if the opposing team is rough on our quarterback. That said, I don't believe that all rules are entirely necessary. And as this post proved, a sizable population of redditors would agree.”
Making the bed. Why would I make my bed all neat if I'm just going to mess it up again at the soonest opportunity? As long as nothing is sliding off the bed then it's fine.
It's better to not immediately make your bed so your mattress and blankets can air out.
My employees dont pay for food on my shifts. we dont pay them a living wage, i’m not about to make them pay for a meal for themselves after theyve given me 8-9 hours of their day.
"Do not discuss salary with colleagues or people outside this company." - F**k that.
Edit: Phew!
To be clear, I am not part of the US and not really part of the EU. The act of discussing pay is not legally protected here. It may be in the future though...
I work in the video games industry and we're open about salaries, but people freak out if you start talking about unionization. Legally we're allowed to say anything except directly tell people they should sign up for a card. But people act like it's taboo cause they're afraid of consequences from leadership
I refuse to use Starbucks sizes and say small, medium, or large.
I'm so tired of the "subscription" world we live in now. I basically just pirate everything. I used to still buy the discs. But many movies don't get released in UHD, so what's the point of even looking.
I don't want to stream compressed 4k. And I certainly don't want to worry about whether or not the company pulls the movie from their service or just stops it altogether.
Where I live, you can still buy blueray and not pay a monthly fee for c**p shows.
There is an outlet mall near us that has designated spaces painted with pink ribbons that are for breast cancer survivors. The spaces are always empty. I am a 2x ovarian cancer survivor. I use the spaces as needed.
That seems really weird. If you survived any cancer and are healthy, why would you need a special parking space? This seems more like PR and lip service to breast cancer awareness than it does practical or meaningful
Do socks really need to match, or is this just a bill of goods sold to us by Big Laundry?
"I met a girl in a bar. She said, you know you're wearing two different colored socks. I said, yeah, but to me they're the same because I go by THICKNESS." --Steven Wright
Dress codes. Dress codes tend to be more restrictive for females than males (don’t tempt him with your exposed clavicles, ladies). Many of them are also racist. And they have absolutely nothing to do with someone’s standards or ability to perform duties, whether it be a job, a school, or even a restaurant.
Like the two ladies beach volleyball teams that were fined for refusing to wear the ladies gear and instead wore what the men wear.
The rule against ending a sentence with a preposition. That is one rule, up with which I will not put.
Grammar rules enables others to avoud misunderstandings AND learn a foreign language. You would not understand my English if I applied the grammar rules of my mothet tongue. That having said, it is very confusing that "they" is not solely plural anymore. I give up on quit ea lot of texts, because it is impossible to figure out how many people there are. You do you with your language, but for me "they" is more than 1.
There is no difference between being at work at 8am and 8:10am. Especially when it’s not shift work and there’s no one waiting for you to arrive so they can leave. In every job I’ve had they always gripe about being right on time at 8am and then you have hovering managers looking at the door to see who’s late at 8:02am. I am always at work but I will not be there at 8am on the dot for the next 25+ years of my life. It makes no difference
Agreed. Luckily, I have flexible hours, so I can basically start whenever I want to as long as I do 8 hours a day (which is also stupid because I don't need 8 hours nor am I able to focus for 8 hours, but as per contract)
Ages on car seats. I think a kid’s age has zero relation and all car seat requirements should be based on weight alone.
My grandson is not quite 3 & weighs close to 40 pounds. Granddaughter is 19 months and weighs 33 pounds. Neither are overweight, both in the 95th percentile. By age, granddaughter should be seated facing backwards, but she's too big. They're both very tall and big for their ages, and pediatrician says very healthy. You have to go by weight and height.
I wear socks and sandals. The people complaining are annoyingly ridiculous. I’m not gonna show my hairy feet if I don’t want to and I can’t stand the feeling/sound of sweaty feet on sandals.
Lying on your resume. I’m not talking about completely lying that you worked at Google for 2 years when you didn’t. That’s a little much.
But in reality i have gaps between many jobs, due to either unemployment or just needing a damn break between jobs. but on my resume i have consecutively been employed with no gaps my entire career. I feel like recruiters see gaps as a red flag, and sometimes your resume doesn’t make it far enough to even explain the gaps, even if they’re completely harmless gaps.
In regard to background checks for new jobs I’ve personally still passed all of mine with no issues. To my knowledge the agency conducting the background checks can only verify information you give them yourself (not the employer). So I simply don’t provide exact dates, just the year I worked at whatever place. Of course this could backfire, but so far so good over here
Edit: I fundamentally disagree with it because employers lie about the job description all the time. What you actually end up doing rarely matches what they pitch you.
I don't put months either, especially if it was several years ago. It's old news.
No putting your elbows on the table. It's a silly rule that was based on the idea of "if you have room to put your elbows on the table, it implies your host didn't provide enough food." We make bigger tables now. And most of the time I'm the one who is buying the food in question.
I'm conscious of the speed limit, but typically follow the speed of traffic first. So if traffic is going faster than the speed limit, I'm going to go faster to keep pace with everyone else.
The rule that you cannot place a +2 on a +2 in UNO I am always going to break that rule no matter what anyone says
I refuse to spell out YMCA with my arms when that song comes on.
Not a rule but i refuse to fill out opinion surveys for service or something i bought. If you want me to provide you with optimization information for your business, i need something in return.
Speeding on the interstate. Get out of the left lane!
This is common sense, which is why people don't obey this rule of the road.
I tip the minimum amount at restaurants.
Places nowadays want a minimum 25% tip and I will do 15% every time. You don’t get to tell me how generous I have to be. And in case everyone forgot, tips are OPTIONAL.
I don't tip by percentage, I tip by level of service. If service was poor, I tip less. If service was great, I tip more. I always take into account if the server is really busy, if they are new, etc.... I have never not tipped but it is MY choice how much to leave, not some random whoever that decided we should all tip this. I rarely eat out anymore because I am so disgusted that this is the 21st century and restaurants can still get by with paying their help less than $3.00 an hour.
They get away with $3/hr *because* of tipping. The only way to stop this, other than through the government, is for everyone to simply stop tipping. Even if that could be organized, that will feel like a punishment to servers who depend on tips. Sure, they'll quit, and then restaurants will be forced to offer better wages, but in the meantime, servers will be unemployed.
Load More Replies...In the US it's totally unfair that servers are paid ridiculously cheap and not livable wages (I've ;heard about $2.50!) because the owner feels they'll make it up in tips. And the waitress usually has to share the tips with the busboy and the chef etc. It's outrageous. there should be a national law about a bare minimum for servers!
Sadly that is the law for tipped employees in the U.S. Directly from the Department of Labor's website it says "Tipped employees are individuals engaged in occupations in which they customarily and regularly receive more than $30 a month in tips. The employer may consider tips as part of wages, but the employer must pay at least $2.13 an hour in direct wages." Each state may have their own rules but that is the federal requirement. I couldn't imagine making $2.13 an hour and relying on my customers to fund me the rest of my pay. Absolutely appalling!
Load More Replies...Tips are NOT mandatory by law, not even in the US. But tipping is frowned upon in Iceland 🇮🇸
Load More Replies...I will tip a lot better if I know I'm going to be returning to that restaurant multiple times, as that often equates to better service (and sometimes freebies) on future visits. But even if it's a place I know I'll only visit that one time, I will still do 20%. I hate tipping culture, but it's not the servers' fault, it's the owners & managers -- and I refuse to penalize the servers for that.
if you think 15% is minimum you have been brainwashed by the US tipping culture. Let's make something clear, the salary of the employees is the employer bussiness, not the patron.
Except generally the employees aren't paid a decent wage and yes it's stupid but you're punishing employees not the business
In the USA there are jobs which are classified as tipping roles… such as wait staff. If your job is classified that way minimum wage does not apply. Many of the people in those jobs are paid as little as $2 an hour because their cheap a** crappy employers are not bound by minimum wage laws. You literally, by tipping, may be helping those people pay their bills and feed their kids.
In the US culture dictates that tips are not optional. The mere fact that you haven't adjusted your tipping shows how old, stingy, and out of touch you are.
Well you’re a right POS then. Lobby the government to abolish the server’s wage, or at least don’t brag about being a stingy fu**.
In SA most of our people are fuckoff poor so I give about 12-15% minimum (our standard is 10%, so this is generous). Basically on a smaller bill (under R 200), I give ZAR 50 (which is equivalent to a hamburger and chips). 200-500 I give ZAR 50+10%. Over ZAR 500 I give 10%. Basically they always get between 50 and 100 ZAR, which would feed their family one meal. Assuming they have 10 tables per night, and two major shifts (lunch/dinner), it gives about ZAR 1000 per day, or ZAR 20 000 per month, which is a middle-class salary. Base salary is about 5000, so that brings it up to 25 000, which is about what a teacher gets.
In oregon card tips are taxed 8%, so I'll never tip less than that, but almost always more. I don't think you should have to pay to serve me, and you've gotta do something pretty bad for me to only tip 8%. I usually tip between 20-30%...depends on how rich I'm feeling and if someone gave exceptional service
I tip based on whether or not the server is being paid an acutal wage or is being forced to live off of tips
Sorry, but I never understood tipping your hairstylist/barber. You are paying them to cut/style your hair and tipping them to ... what ... not cut your ears off?
Corporations are screwing both their employees and their customers by underpaying the employees, so customers feel like d***s if they don't tip. F--- corporations.
When I still lived in the USA back in the 1990s, my entire life up until then, a standard tip was 15%. Good service? 15%. Great service? 20% or MORE. Bad service, maybe less. I didn't do less than 15% because most of the time, it's not the server's fault, and I won't punish them for something someone else did. However, I noticed in the early 2000s, people started saying that the standard was 20%. I said "What? When? Why?" They said "Well, the cost of living is going up, so tips should too!" I said "That's not how percents work. If a meal that was $15 in 1990 is now $20 in 2000, your tip increases with it." Nobody wanted to hear that. Tips are a scam.
Unless its a street vendor/walker or other independent employment
Load More Replies...The reason there is a percentage is because the servers do get taxed on their tips, so, if they don't get enough in tips, they don't make enough money to live. That being said, servers should still do the job well. If they consistently suck, they should try a new job.
Where do you live? If workers don't make enough in tips, the business isn't liable for paying them out of pocket to make sure the take home pay is the equivalent of min wage for the hours worked?
Load More Replies...I give two tips. One is pay your workers. Two is change jobs if you are underpaid
I don't know what country this comment comes from, but In the US, employers are allowed to pay FAR below minimum wage for restaurant servers. I get not tipping for counter service etc, but if you can't or won't tip your server, stay the F at home
10% is my limit. Do not ask for or expect more. You are lucky to get anything, and I never tip the owner, never tip drive thru or at a coffee place or any place where I stood in line for you to fill my order. I don't tip the bartender either - it is a beer, you pulled the tab and it came out, you didn't perform surgery.
Don’t date where you work.
You spend nearly a third of your waking hours at work. You learn about the people you work with over weeks, months, years, and have a much better idea of compatibility than with a random club or dating app meetup.
Taking slightly longer breaks at work. Two 10min breaks and a 20min lunch on a 10hr shift. Nah
I used to work at a DG store so close to my house that you could holler and I'd hear you from my porch. They tried to tell me that, as the only key-holder, I wasn't allowed to leave the premises on my mandatory unpaid breaks. Nah, I'm going home to kick off my shoes and play with my dogs. Holler if you need me.
I ignore margins in notebooks and write over them. Why waste space? I use the whole page.
In 1950s New Zealand they used to have six o’clock closing for all the bars by law. My dad was barely of drinking age but he used to line up with everyone else and hand over his cash while the publican sold flagons of beer over the back fence.
He told me this story to teach me this axiom:
“You don’t obey the *stupid* laws.”
When I grew up Sunday's were a no-no for serving alcohol. EXCEPT if you were travelling. So everyone would drive 40+ miles to a distant pub. Essentially you were encouraged to drink and drive.
Maybe not totally on point but if I have a device that breaks just out of warranty I will often buy a new one and just return the old one. I know two wrongs don’t make a right and it’s fraud but as far as I’m concerned selling me something that breaks within 1 year for the price of something that should last at least 5 years is legalized fraud so I’m just cheating them like they cheat me.
I do try and give the company a chance to honor their device regardless of the stated warranty but if not returned it goes.
How do you do this?? Oh... you... pretend the 'new device' you just bought broke? Wow... OP must be VERY careful with their stuff... doesn't show any signs of wear...?
City animal limits. YES if you can't take care of them they need to be removed, but in my city the limit is 4 cats/dogs total. Down the road in the next city it's 10 cats/dogs.
I have 8. It's b******t. It's my space and I'm taking good care of them, they dont roam. The only interaction with neighbors is if they see them in my window.
It really doesn't affect me much as most people around here ignore the rule too
5 second rule. If it falls on the floor I just throw it out. That’s gross.
Depends on the floor and what it is. If I drop a piece of candy or whatever on my floor at home, I'm gonna pick it up and eat it. If it's outside on the sidewalk, the candy is for the streets
Sharing meds. My oldest and I had several of the same prescriptions and would use them interchangeably as needed between refills. It’s the same prescription. But I imagine some medical professionals would lose their minds.
Adding garlic and onion to the pan at the same time to soften. Do you want burnt garlic? Because that's how you get burnt garlic.
I throw away the mail of the people who lived in my apartment before me rather than taking it to the post office every. Single. Day. If they wanted their mail, they would have filled out a change of address form.
That you need to wait for other people to start eating, eat your food before it gets cold, I’ll just talk while I’m waiting
A good restaurant will bring all the food at one time, although it may take a waiter a couple of trips to serve everyone. In such a case it's still considered rude in most places to start eating before everyone else just because your plate came first. In less formal settings, especially at a larger table where it's clear that it may be more than a minute or two waiting it would be common courtesy for someone else to say "Oh don't wait for us, don't let it go cold" before starting to eat.
Telling white lies to your SO is good.
No. I'm not carrying the baggage of lies. I'm always kind, and I'm always honest. Don't want to know thing? You better not ask me.
Using knife and fork to cut your food. If the food it's soft enough, why I can't use my spoon?
I will occasionally eat a KitKat across, instead of finger by finger.
There is a roundabout intersection near me that also has stop signs. I refuse to stop at the stop signs as it defeats the purpose of a roundabout (assuming no other cars or pedestrians are present). The roundabout is near a small strip mall so not a ton of traffic
But aren't you supposed to stop when you get to a roundabout? Or are the stop signs for the cars going round?
Using a VPN when traveling to China.
Technically it's illegal though many people, especially visitors from other countries could care less. And there's no way I'd play nice and obey that law and not be able to use Reddit and virtually every major US site and service when I'm there.
Wearing clothes.
Ill be naked in my own home and in my own backyard as often as I want.
If im on public land camping/hiking and don't expect to see anyone except the group of friends Im with? Im being comfortable and getting naked.
If others want to wear clothes, more power to them. I prefer not to and don't like that its become a fairly general concern that someone being naked in public means they're up to no good.
Go back 50 years and almost everywhere in the world casual nudity was much more normal and not the big crime north america seems to think it is recently.
Naked bodies are one of the very few things that literally every one has!
If someone decides to peek while I'm skinny dipping, I refuse to pay for their therapy.
I’ll start. I’ve never used airplane mode on a flight. I just don’t believe that if there was a risk, they’d leave it up to passengers to do it on their own.
Maybe look into exactly why they ask to do that, and then make up your mind. You're not getting a connection up there anyway so what's the point?
Paying for the trolley. Straight up, the entire world is better off if I bum a trolley ride than if I pay to fill my car with petroleum and join the rest of you in traffic.
Some rules are not for the individual, but for population level risks. Putting oil down your sink appears to do no harm, but then everyone does it, and there's a massive fatberg. You think going 10km per hour over the limit harms no one, but everyone sticking to the limit reduces deaths by hundreds over the entire nation. You think you're not at risk so you don't get a vaccine, but then everyone does that, and we get polio back. We live in complex societies with complex results from simple actions.
Bruh. Bored panda. I l9ve scrolling you page while I am at work but it's getting very difficult with the pop ups. You don't need my email, I already have hulu. Relax.
not discussing proper body part names and function like periods. all of my kids had the body parts and period talk from about the age of 2 when they would clamor to get into the bathroom with me. i refuse to raise girls ashamed of their body and i refuse to raise a son to think periods are gross or some big cosmic mystery. i will not gatekeep knowledge.
I’m from Ohio, in the heart of “The” Ohio State University’s fandom, and I refuse to say “I-O!” after someone yells “O-H!”. Sometimes I’ll yell “Oh No!” In response to an “O-H!” specifically because it annoys people. I won’t do the O-H-I-O gestures either.
I ignore registering my dogs, especially if they are small dogs. My dogs, when I had them, never left the house unless they were being walked, on a leash. They don't pose a danger to anyone. Why do I have to pay the town to tell them I have a dog?
I don't wash my recycling (cans and bottles). I've got enough to do without washing my rubbish, and years ago I knew someone who was put into an asylum for doing things like washing her rubbish. It gets washed when it gets to the recycling centre anyway.
I got told ff once for not standing for the national anthem. I didn't want to stand up for the Queen. I like Liz but do I think she was somehow born superior?? Nope.
"No right turn on red". Unless a police car is literally right behind you, the rule is unenforceable.
I keep my bananas in the fridge. I like them cold. And still a little green. I hate room temperature fully ripe bananas. I've been told that I'm doing it wrong, but damm it, it's the way I like them, why does it matter to anyone else?
I do the same. The cold makes the skin brown quicker, but the fruit inside remains fresher for longer. They will look absolutely vile from the outside, but when you open them, fresh as a daisy.
Load More Replies...No buying alcohol before noon on Sunday. Absolutely ridiculous. I tried to get the ingredients for beef burgundy for Sunday dinner. Nope.
Leaving one urinal open between 2 men? Why? If the closest one to the door is occupied, I'll take the second. If you're afraid I'll see your junque, take a stall. Or the owner of the place should have put dividers between them, as is the common thing in Europe.
If I'm at an intersection waiting to make a left hand turn and there's a red arrow and nobody is coming the other way? I'm so running that red arrow.
Some rules are not for the individual, but for population level risks. Putting oil down your sink appears to do no harm, but then everyone does it, and there's a massive fatberg. You think going 10km per hour over the limit harms no one, but everyone sticking to the limit reduces deaths by hundreds over the entire nation. You think you're not at risk so you don't get a vaccine, but then everyone does that, and we get polio back. We live in complex societies with complex results from simple actions.
Bruh. Bored panda. I l9ve scrolling you page while I am at work but it's getting very difficult with the pop ups. You don't need my email, I already have hulu. Relax.
not discussing proper body part names and function like periods. all of my kids had the body parts and period talk from about the age of 2 when they would clamor to get into the bathroom with me. i refuse to raise girls ashamed of their body and i refuse to raise a son to think periods are gross or some big cosmic mystery. i will not gatekeep knowledge.
I’m from Ohio, in the heart of “The” Ohio State University’s fandom, and I refuse to say “I-O!” after someone yells “O-H!”. Sometimes I’ll yell “Oh No!” In response to an “O-H!” specifically because it annoys people. I won’t do the O-H-I-O gestures either.
I ignore registering my dogs, especially if they are small dogs. My dogs, when I had them, never left the house unless they were being walked, on a leash. They don't pose a danger to anyone. Why do I have to pay the town to tell them I have a dog?
I don't wash my recycling (cans and bottles). I've got enough to do without washing my rubbish, and years ago I knew someone who was put into an asylum for doing things like washing her rubbish. It gets washed when it gets to the recycling centre anyway.
I got told ff once for not standing for the national anthem. I didn't want to stand up for the Queen. I like Liz but do I think she was somehow born superior?? Nope.
"No right turn on red". Unless a police car is literally right behind you, the rule is unenforceable.
I keep my bananas in the fridge. I like them cold. And still a little green. I hate room temperature fully ripe bananas. I've been told that I'm doing it wrong, but damm it, it's the way I like them, why does it matter to anyone else?
I do the same. The cold makes the skin brown quicker, but the fruit inside remains fresher for longer. They will look absolutely vile from the outside, but when you open them, fresh as a daisy.
Load More Replies...No buying alcohol before noon on Sunday. Absolutely ridiculous. I tried to get the ingredients for beef burgundy for Sunday dinner. Nope.
Leaving one urinal open between 2 men? Why? If the closest one to the door is occupied, I'll take the second. If you're afraid I'll see your junque, take a stall. Or the owner of the place should have put dividers between them, as is the common thing in Europe.
If I'm at an intersection waiting to make a left hand turn and there's a red arrow and nobody is coming the other way? I'm so running that red arrow.

