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We often hear the notion that you should try everything at least once, especially when peer pressure comes into play. But it's not really valid, or healthy. Still, there's some expectation that people should just universally want to do some things that are considered 'milestones'.

Well, one user on Reddit was wondering what people absolutely refuse to try even once, aka their "anti-bucket list" items. There's no need to have an excuse not to do something - "No" is a full sentence - though these people still made some very valid and interesting points.

Maybe they're missing out on the hype, maybe they're protecting their sanity, but over 4k people shared their biggest 'nopes' in this thread, and Bored Panda selected the most popular answers. Scroll down and and let us know if you find these relatable, or maybe they are actually on your bucket list? Either way, don't forget to upvote your favorites, and make sure to share what you would never ever try in the comments below! And if you want to read more stories on a similar topic, here's our post on things people actually did, but would never do again.

#1

29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Having children. I'm not passing on my fibromyalgia or any of my sucky genes. I have my own under control very well, but I just can't put someone else through that. I refuse. Plus I'd rather have freedom, than take care of children. I don't hate them or anything, but mom life isn't for me. Neither is married life.

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    #2

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Climbing mount Everest. Too cold, not enough oxygen, too many dead bodies. I don't get why people feel the need to do it/try, but I sure don't, ESPECIALLY after watching Everest. Nope.

    HigherMind9200 , watchsmart Report

    Daniel Atkins
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m glad I read this cause I was thinking I’d do this but this list changed my mind ;)

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    #3

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Cave-diving. Crawling through very small, dark spaces and chances of getting stuck and suffocating down there. With almost no way of calling for help, if u did it alone. Even if you were with someone there is still not much time to get help if you are stuck. No sir, I am never gonna do that.

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    Stardust she/her
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After hearing about Nutty Putty, I’ll never go underground

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    #4

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Cigarettes. My grandfather passed away from lung cancer and was a heavy smoker back in the day. The fact that he didn't smoke for so long before he was diagnosed really shows how bad smoking is. The thought of cigarettes and even seeing others smoke repulses me and I never want to try one.

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    M Calad
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an ex-smoker, I can say this to whoever feels like trying: don't. It's the stupidest vice ever. You'll be literally paying to slowly make yourself sick and possibly have a gruesome death. All just for a short stress/anxiety/boredom relief. Smoking will always hunt you. It is always lurking around your subconscious mind waiting for the right trigger to come back with full force. It will never leave you; you just learn to ignore it and replace it with something healthier. But it's there. I willingly paid for it to be there. My biggest regret. Get a hobby instead. Learn EFT or meditation or other ways to deal with stress and anxiety peaks. Thank you for reading my TED-talk. Merry Christmas!

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    #5

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Spelunking! I'm so claustrophobic that even thinking about being in a tight cave gives me the chills.

    nownowthethetalktalk , Dave Bunnell Report

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    #6

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What An open relationship.

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    #7

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Not wearing a seat belt

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    #8

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What SURSTRÖMMIMG Or as others know it, the Swedish rotten fish.

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    Gremlan jonnson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It really just tastes salty, smells more foul than I have words to describe though

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    #9

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Casu marzu. You couldn't pay or bribe me with anything.

    AvsMama , Shardan Report

    ShyWahine
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. Nope, Nope. Hard pass. Just Google'd it: translates as rotten cheese in Sardinian including wriggling maggots and their cheesy excretions.

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    #10

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Going on a cruise. I get seasick really easily. Like REALLY easily. I’m also very introverted so the idea of being stuck on a boat with a bunch of strangers while barfing myself to death sounds like torture.

    RackhamJack , Jeff VanLandingham Report

    Stardust she/her
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I also don’t want the ship to sink. I’ve had a fear of being anywhere in or near a body of water ever since I was 5

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    #11

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Balut

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    Kat O.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For those wondering, Balut is a fertilized developing egg embryo that is boiled or steamed and eaten from the shell.

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    #12

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Drunk driving. I live in Wisconsin and the number of people who do it is astounding to me.

    RufRufRufio , why kei Report

    JB
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Illinoisan here, can confirm, but also seems like more drunk driving everywhere since the pandemic.

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    #13

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Anything involvinf height like bungee jumping ect

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    #14

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Drinking alcohol. I don't like saying this because it sounds whiny, but i've had too much problems in my life and i'm afraid i would find alcohol as a solution and get a bigger problem.

    HeavyWeath3r , joyce Mutesva Report

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    #15

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Energy Drinks. Main reason: they smell awful to me. I don't care if they taste better than they smell, they'd still probably taste horrible.

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    #16

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Sky Diving

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    M Calad
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did skydiving twice. You are attached to your instructor's front side. You take off the plane backwards, so the instructor literally "pushes" you out of the plane... like "ok, set ready GO!" And off you are. Yes, terrifying. The first few seconds when your body is registering that is falling are the most violent. You can feel all the cells in your body screaming, and there's nothing you can do to help them. Then... then you feel nothing because suddenly you... float. In other words, you reached constant acceleration so you no longer feel you are falling. And that feeling is amazing, it can't be described. It's like being in a rollercoaster: adrenaline, speed, body sensations, the vacuum in your stomach. But it doesn't last long as the parachute needs to open after a minute or so. Then gliding with the parachute is just... out of this world. You see the world below so big, so magnificent, so green, so pure... and all is silence around you. Pure crystal clear silence.

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    #17

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Deep sea diving. I know whats down there, and id rather not go say hi.

    CLTalbot , Kris-Mikael Krister Report

    Ivanh
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a diver...i'm going to say that you don't know what's actually down there. It's amazing, peaceful and just another world. I've introduced so many people to diving and even just snorkeling that regret ever having the view that the ocean is a terrifying place and that they would never dive and they couldn't wait the go again. But yeah yesterday's dive with sea turtles was truly terrifying and horrible experience 😛

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    #18

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What That stupid amusement park ride where you look like you're bungee jumping to your death. No, thank you.

    Lulu_42 , momentcaptured1 Report

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    #19

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Weed. My roommates are major pot heads and they're always trying to get me to smoke with them. But I'm just not interested. That's some of the grossest s**t I've ever smelled in my life. To each their own, it's just not for me.

    troysplay , Matthew Brodeur Report

    JB
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's an acquired taste, just like alcohol and coffee. I'd posit it's healthier than alcohol. (All should be done in moderation)

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    #20

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Instagram

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    Tams21
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why Instagram in particular? All social media has its downsides but I don't think think Instagram is worse than any other.

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    #21

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What A quiji board

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    DC
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... issued and sold by a board game company. And that tells all that is to tell about these.

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    #22

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Chitlins

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    Natasha
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is this? I’m too scared to Google it (edit) thanks so much for telling me…..I did not want to have to look for it. I just knew it’d be bad!

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    #23

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Lobster. Not vegetarian but the thought of how its cooked and breaking it open to get to the meat gives me the heeby jeebys.

    MostlyInTheMiddle , David Todd McCarty Report

    Alison Lover
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's delicious. Crab is delicious 😋 too

    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its horrible how they are prepared tho

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    Janet C
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't eat anything that is boiled alive. I think anyone who does is cruel and heartless.

    Karl Baxter
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t care for performing an autopsy on my food before aI eat it. Also, lobsters are very intelligent long-living creatures and (along with Squid & Octopus) are not on my dinner menu.

    Rena
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wouldn't expect someone to think like me here - thank you!

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    Ace
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are other ways to kill it, and in fact I think boiling them alive is now illegal in many countries.

    WindySwede
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, please do if you gonna eat them.

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    DuchessDegu
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All I see it's a giant sea cockroach

    tuzdayschild
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was nine years old when I saw how crabs were cooked. I haven't eaten one since.

    Virgil Blue
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll tasted a bit to satisfy my curiosity and it's nice, but not so nice something should be boiled alive and then broken apart by a maniac with hammers and nutcrackers..

    Helen Jane Witten
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember going to a Japanese restaurant and these fellow patrons were eating a lobster raw and still alive. It had been chilled to a degree where it could barely move but just the memory of seeing that poor creature being devoured and trying to move it's pincers to get away haunts me to this day. What a nightmare for any living creature to endure :(

    Diana Pahule
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also they are over fished, and they take 5-8 years to mature.The female lobster carries the eggs inside for 9 to 12 months and then for another 9 to 12 months attached to the swimmerets under her tail. When the eggs hatch, the larvae will float near the surface for 4 to 6 weeks. The few that survive will settle to the bottom and continue to develop as baby lobsters. If lucky they can live to be 100 years old. I refuse to eat lobster no matter how tasty they are.

    Mariele Scherzinger
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was on a trip to Long Island, and I tried lobster there for the first time. Perhaps it was not the best restaurant, but the taste was disappointing. Considering how much the animals suffer, it's a flavour I can do without.

    Cara G
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not just that they are boiled alive, guys. That's only if you're eating the entire lobster. If you're having, say, a broiled lobster tail, the lobster is dismembered while still alive because the individual body parts are cooked differently. And there's no way to euthanize a lobster other than driving a spike through its head.

    Noelle R
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an islander and former bartender in a restaurant, fresh caught lobsters are put in the freezer or quickly stabbed through the head. No one boils them alive, not because they care about it being in pain, but because it makes a mess and is noisy.

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    Daphne Dear
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not all it's cracked up to be 😂

    similarly
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never cared for crab or lobster, to be honest.

    Grudge-holding Treefrog
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Giant sea cockroaches Edit: no offense Headless Roach

    Edison Michael
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It might be the weirdest reason, but for me it is the fact that they could live for AGES in nafure. The thought of eating a lobster is as "not for me, thanks" as the thought of personally ordering someone to cut down a milenia old tree just for toothpicks.

    pat hayes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    same here...for me its an ethical thing....just not worth the horrid death of a creature for a meal....and no, i am not a vegan, i do enjoy meat but there is just something about lobster that gives me pause....

    Noelle R
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can’t eat pigs, cows, chickens, et al then claim ‘ethics’ over the way lobsters are killed (which is not boiled alive btw)-. If you think those animals get a calm death you are mistaken. In fact, it’s worse than lobsters, way worse.

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    Nightshade1972
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like lobster tail by itself with drawn butter, but I do like lobster bisque, lobster alfredo, etc. Lobster alone, I don't particularly like the taste of, but when it's an ingredient in something else, that's fine.

    Lara Verne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never had lobster, it's not exactly usual food here. I would try it, but to be honest, I have no idea how to eat it and I don't wanna make fool of myself.

    Fay Furness
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are bottom feeders. The thought of what they feed on puts me off. They used to be poor man's food.

    Oops
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But the living animals are so beautiful - dont laugh - i mean it. Watch them in an aquarium.

    Linda Riebel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I hope anyone who has ever eaten lobster now wises up. I used to, then I saw them while scuba diving. Majestic creatures in their own home.

    EJN
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But it is sooooo delicious!

    Dawnieangel76
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work for a food wholesaler, mainly seafood. I do & will not eat nor suggest Lobster, Crab, or Foie Gras...the cruelty is too much. I can't recommend oysters either, because they're just disgusting.

    Jane W.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So breaking open a shell is worse for you than running an animal through a slaughterhouse? OK.

    the Return of Bruno
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I eat lobster, but I understand the revulsion to food with a face. I have a lot of Phillippino friends, and a few think it's funny that I never liked the practice of serving the fish with the head still on it.

    Rick Seiden
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't eat at a table where whole lobsters are being served. They stare at me.

    David
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love lobster. and crab. But tour just about any butcher plant and it might put you off other meats as well. I've watched cows being slaughtered close up.

    Jessica J.
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    Alicia M
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You guys can keep the bug meat. I'll never try it. Crab either.

    Susan Betz
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cockroaches of the sea! (I love lobster, shrimp, crab, etc).

    Lucinda Speer
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a big testure person. Lobster is like eating a loogie. A loogie that you dipped in butter. No. Thanks. Never. Again.

    Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find interesting the fact that we eat lobster which looks like a big cockroach of the sea but we find the idea of eating earth cockroaches disgusting.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I personally don’t like the lemon.

    Sachi Knight
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even prior to becoming a vegetarian, I'd never considered eating shellfish. Not only due to the suffering they go through after capture, but the fact that (to me) they are insects of the sea. Nothing will sway me from that belief, lol.

    Okatango
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Boiling a live animal to death after days of it likely by terrified after taken from the only world it ever knew. No thank you. How can we be so kind and loving to our pets but utterly heartless towards other creatures?

    Deb Dedon
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want clean oceans, stop eating the janitors. Slow growing crabs and lobsters and other shellfish are filter feeders.

    Noname
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly, I'm allergic to lobster shrimp and crab, but I'd like it if for one day I could eat any or all of these without being hospitalized. Recently learned I'm also now allergic to joels which is a small fish. Hives, projectile vomiting, in a restaurant. I didn't know I was also allergic to these fish.

    Telepathetic
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well then I won't tell you it's related to cockroaches

    Violet Smith
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't try lobster until I was an adult, and I found it t be just....meh. And the sights and sounds of other people eating it (crack, slurp, crack) are truly nauseating. Prawns and calamari are much tastier.

    Violet Smith
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't try it until I was an adult, and it is just....meh. And the sound of people eating it (crack, slurp, crack) is truly nauseating. Prawns and calamari are much better tasting.

    Nancy T
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bottom dwellers, as all crustaceans are. No thank you.

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Overrated. I've had it and it was more work than it was worth.

    Patrick Wilson
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's delicious. Once you get around the fact that they're deep sea scavengers. Like a Sea Cockroach.

    Jack Holt
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These days it is recommended to use a brain spike to kill it instantly. Much more humane.

    Best Behave
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Much more humane would be to leave these beautiful sentient animals in the sea….

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    Robert Trebor
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tend to hurt myself eating this from the shell. I let the cook do it.

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    #24

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Karaoke. Not enough alcohol in the world. To be clear, I have nothing against karaoke, I just know full well that I would suck at it. Ergo, not on my bucket list.

    dr_tess , Brandi Alexandra Report

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    #25

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Tattoo

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    JB
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just can't commit to something permanent on my skin for life. Nothing is that profound or meaningful, I change and grow

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    #26

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What A durian fruit. I can't get past the smell.

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    Jay Son
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bought one once when on vacation in China. Stank like hell but though the taste was pretty good.

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    #27

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Contact lenses. Eyes are not meant to be touched.

    FatherDuffy , איתן טל Report

    ShyWahine
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IKR? touching my eyeball creeps me out - I can't do it.

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    #28

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Work on stage somehow like an actor or singer.

    anon , Joe Pham Report

    Jay Son
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This can actually be really cool and leave you very energetic.

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    #29

    29 People Share Their "Anti-Bucket" List Of Things They Will Never, Ever Do, No Matter What Coffee, I hate bitter things and I know by the smell I won't like it.

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    Kimba
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love the smell of coffee, but I hate the taste of it. Every since I tried a moccachino, I can't start my day without one of some sort.

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