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The National Center for Health Statistics, part of the CDC, shared some worrying numbers in a report published on Wednesday this week: the number of babies born in the United States dropped by a whopping 4 percent in 2020, compared to the previous year. It’s part of a trend that has seen the lowest number of births in the country since 1979. In the long-term, this could spell serious issues for the country (or might be beneficial to the planet, depending on your point of view).

And while everyone—from experts to ordinary Americans—appears to have an opinion as to _why_ the birth rates are declining, not all of those reasons apply to everyone equally. So the women of America took to Twitter and explained exactly why they personally aren’t having children and might not want to start a family in the future. They’re refreshingly honest takes on the question.

You’ll find their candid opinions below, so have a read, and let us know what you think, dear Pandas. Remember, this is a sensitive subject with people likely to have very strong opinions both for and against having kids, so let’s all try to keep it civil.

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Gracie Jay
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This should be higher. So accurate, and I think there are many people in similar situations that feel the same.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You forgot to include the unstable future outlook for the childen-to-be.

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According to the National Center for Health Statistics., the US total fertility rate remains far below replacement. “The rate has generally been below replacement since 1971 and has consistently been below replacement since 2007,” they explain.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Them: "Who should sustain our welfare if there are no kids?". Also them: "Do not complain if you leave colleague with a debt, have no parental leave and cannot afford a house."

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Scagsy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Inaccurate. I'm a married man and I frequently get asked when or why we are not having kids. Since we are unable to have kids, it's really depressing being pestered about it all the time.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'll just say that if my mom hadn't felt pressured to have kids I would have had a much better childhood.

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Last year, around 3.6 million babies were born in the United States. Meanwhile, the number of births was found to have fallen across the board, across all ethnicities and origins. What’s more, the birthrate fell in most age groups and failed to go up in any one of them. And while these unborn Americans could be replaced by immigrants from other nations, if we’re talking purely in cold economic terms, that’s another sensitive political discussion that’s been splitting the US in two.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Who cares" is also a question that people who want children ask themselves. And if the answer is "No one cares for my family" then they might not have children.

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Full disclosure, dear Pandas: this reporter is very pro-people. I come from a fairly large family and I can’t imagine not wanting to have lots and lots of kids (maybe on a ranch somewhere or we could all become amateur detectives in a major city). However, one of my cardinal virtues is the freedom of will. It’s pretty much at the top of my hierarchy of what’s important. So I could never imagine telling somebody that they must or must not have kids, for whatever reasons. It’s down to each and every one of us to decide what we should do for our very own personal reasons.

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Abby Not Normal
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Godexx forbid we have paid parental leave like nearly every other industrialized nation on earth.

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And while the human race has its fair share of problems, from the mundane and irritating to the downright devastating, it’s also full of light. Not to sound too childish, but I like people. So the fact that there are fewer people being born than in previous years means there’s a bit less potential awesomeness and creativity in the world. But, hey, your point of view might be different—and I’m perfectly fine with that.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. We are poor because we had kids - because to nurse them it is impossible to work and then kids get sick, a lot, which means someone has to be home with them - we have minimal sick leave and this makes working and having a child impossible. So one of us is home (me), BUT as a biologist/biochemist who understands evolution I also understand this artificial bottleneck in our population is a genetic opportunity. We're financially poor, deliberately, but banking on generational (non-economic) wealth. There is rich and there is rich, we have a rich life and we also get to go extreme minimal on our taxing the earth (our household is carbon neutral for eg) and we have kids. We'll never be middle class (rich to me), but maybe that's okay, IDK.

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While it’s everyone’s individual choice whether to have children, when we zoom out to the macro scale, there are potentially disastrous implications to society. Simply put, society can’t function without people. Without them, you don’t have a strong country: you have fewer innovators and friendly neighbors willing to lend a helping hand. You simply have a mass of land with very few things going on there.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You also have the right to ask them why they are so concerned with what goes on in your crotchal region. Those are the same types of people who are overly concerned with the genitals of said child (not in a pedo way, just 'is it a girl or a boy'). Of course, that invites more conversation. A good 'none of your fu***** business' is an acceptable answer, too. Just be sure to yell it really loudly and make them uncomfortable. I highly suggest Naruto running the other way after yelling it, maybe throw and iced coffee on them for good measure. Maybe they'll think twice or at least spread it around that you're crazy. Fewer questions.

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So, dear Readers, what do you think about this difficult topic? What’s your view about the declining birth rate in the US and the reasons people give for not wanting children? Do you think that there should be fewer people on Planet Earth or does the problem lie not in the number of people but in our lifestyles and how we view the environment? Share your thoughts below.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gotta ask about the text-censorship in this post. One word largely blacked-out, then the same(?) word not blacked out. Is this a human error, or machine error, or just an overall bad idea?

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Raven Sheridan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Kidnapping. The third option. (Although I wouldn't recommend it.)

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Llama_flower93
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What if you kidnap a kid who needs adopting? Huh huh? Greeey area right? Lol

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Tami
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bugs me how any crackhead can can have multiple kids and be supported by our tax money but responsible, clean-living people can't adopt easily.

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Helen Haley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been trying to adopt out of fostercare for over 3 years. I don't fit their 2 parent, already raised a kid, christian suburban ideal.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right, like shouldn't the pro-life people be all over making adoption more accessible?

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Bender Bending Rodríguez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anti-Choice is better name for them, since they don't care about baby's life after birth. Same people who are against right to choose are for no welfare.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WHAT?? You have to PAY to adopt a child in America? Are you freaking kidding me?? Why the hell is America such as a mess.

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Michał Jastrzębski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not just in US. Protip: being an adoptive parent is not something that everyone is capable of, and should be gated behind as much obstacles and tests as possible. You only want THE best prospective parents to raise children.

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C.S. E.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It costs so much because you have to pay for attorney fees, document preparation fees, agency application fees, adoption consultant fees, advertising or networking fees to match with a birth mother, birth family counseling fees, health care and/or travel expenses for the birth mother, personal travel expenses to meet with the birth mother or pick up the child, and post-placement expenses. I'm assuming that's if you want an infant and it's not a child already in the system.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do question the responder, though. It seems they went through a private adoption agency, which can go between $20,000 and $45,000 (including international adoption) or wanted an infant. If you foster first, the costs to adopt a foster child are closer to $2600. The bulk of that fee is the home study fee. It covers a court appointed case worker who visits several times to observe both the parents and child to make sure they're a good fit.

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Josh Tall
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

adopting American kids is never that expensive! Quit adopting out of this country! There are hundreds of thousands of kids, here, that would love families!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually cheaper to adopt internationally than domestically. In South Africa, adoption fees comes out to about 18k. Domestically, 20k to 50k for non foster adoptions.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Foster care adoption is free or cheap, but generally a very different experience from raising a child from infancy.

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Vicky Zar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

20k??? Wtf? In Germany it is 75 to 100€ for a child born in Germany and about 800€ for children not born in Germany (but there may be fees from other countries to be payed if the child is not from Germany).

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Lindsey Judd-Bruder
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This should answer the question of the gentleman whose comment I commented on above, who said, "Why not just adopt?"

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop being so entitled and adopt a local foster child instead of demanding you get a baby from a particular place.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to adopt/foster badly, but can only afford it if my husband and I work like crazy to afford a better living situation. If we work like crazy (I used to work 80hr weeks for over a decade with more pay and decent benefits) our mental and physical health decline to making it a bad situation for those around us including each other... So we found jobs that pay less and have better hours but can't afford to bring another being into the fold (we both almost 40, educated, and no current debt )

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, it WILL maim you permanently. Some get away with small, easy to ignore problems, but that little parasite will leave you with some permanent damage that you will then be routinely ignored or gaslit for. And make no mistake, a fetus may not be a parasite in it's full definition, but it is absolutely parasitic on the host's body.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not counterintuitive at all. This relationship is well-known. Education and privilege mean more choice, general, and given real choices in life, women in almost all cultures will choose to have fewer children.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

well most parents are doing the "counting on a lot of people to not have kids and make the world a better place in a generation"

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

𝐼 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎 𝑘𝑖𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒𝑠 𝐷𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑜𝑠, 𝑡𝑜𝑜.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ask them why *they* think that you should have a child. That will be a riot.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally true. I wouldn't have 3 kids, a fulltime job and great career, be with a fulltime working partner, if my (European) country wouldn't have provided support, as it does for any family here. Fully paid parental leave, "free" health care, free education, a guaranteed nursery and kindergarden place in your vicinity and financial support for parents who need it (not to be repaid). That's what it takes to get the middle class to reproduce, too.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right, and millennials are trying to tell everyone that they are not confident about the future.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was in line to pick up a uniform etc. at a job fair at our local baseball stadium last year. The majority of the jobs were part-time. The man directly in front of me was older and telling his friend how he was raising his grandkids (couldn't help but overhear). I got the impression that he wasn't too happy about that but had no choice. Also he really needed the extra income from this little part-time job with relatively few hours. Then of course the pandemic hit, no baseball! I often think about that man and his family. I hope they are doing okay...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of us just hate children and that’s #1 why we won’t have kids. Plus being too busy and preferring vacations and sex more.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know families with more than two kids who are definitely not wealthy. They make it work and it’s worth it to them. It also requires huge sacrifices in other areas. It’s not right or wrong, it depends on priorities and most people will decide it isn’t worth it for them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you don’t want to be judged for not having kids, extend the same courtesy to those who do have them. Having children is not abuse, and the lives of children born today will likely be better than those of 99% of humans who have ever lived. Don’t have children if you don’t want, but don’t be a judgmental asshole while complaining about other people being judgmental assholes.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My reasons why I never had kids - all of the above. And then some hard honesty... 1. they're noisy. 2. they cost a lot of money to raise. 3. I'm selfish and want all my money for ME. 4. they make a lot of messes. 5. they carry a lot of germs. 6. they're just downright annoying - the talking, the crying. 7. I just can't stand to be around them. There, I've said it. Call me a b*tch, but I don't care. I won't even date someone with kids.

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