Someone In This Online Group Asked, “What’s Your ‘That’s Why I Don’t Go Home For The Holidays’ Story?” And 30 Folks Delivered
For some people, Christmas is the biggest, most festive and happiest time of the year because they get to spend some time with their families that they can’t see more often. And even though most often the word family has a positive connotation, causing warm feelings, not everyone shares the same experience.
So the holiday season for them causes more anxiety and stress than happiness. But when you become an adult, you can choose to not go back to the place where you felt unwanted, were abused or not understood.
It’s not a sin to dislike your family or relatives and not want to see them on holidays when doing something else would bring you more joy. That actually happens not as rarely as you would think. Reddit user JustBo-Lieve asked “What’s your ‘that’s why I don’t go home for the holidays’ story?” and people shared what bothered them so much about their families that they don’t want to see them ever again.
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My parents are super religious and only want me to come home if I stop "choosing" to be gay, so I spend the holidays with my girlfriend's family instead.
Proper response: I stop being gay if you stop being the religious twats that you are.
Religion should never be an excuse to not love everything your child is, I'm sorry you have to deal with that
You're welcome at my home any time, holiday or not. I'll be your mom, make you cocoa and bake you cookies.
I am straight, but my family does not understand that being gay is just who someone is, beyond that - why does anyone give a rodent's rump what you do in your bedroom. I have often asked them "did you choose to be straight?" So darn stupid. WHO CARES! Consenting is the only thing that matters.
I had a share house and rented a bedroom to the son of a Baptist minister. Anyway one day we somehow got to talk about 'gay' people. He looked me in the eye and said 'they can be converted back to being normal' by the love of Jesus. He really believed it was a choice.
Perfect time to help him understand and question while he is somewhat removed from that community...
Load More Replies...True, it's not the religion as such, it's those in that community who use the religion to justify their bigoted views. Thankfully there are some churches that are understanding and accepting. My denomination even has gay ministers.
Load More Replies...If being gay is a "choice" why don't those judgmental people chose it for a couple weeks?
Maybe when they choose to stop believing in Bronze Age mythology they can reevaluate what it means to “choose” how to live.
Not my family, but my wife's side of the family. I refuse to attend any of their holiday get-togethers. She's from a small town in Western Missouri named Boonville and I lived in the Saint Louis area most of my life. I guess me being a Saint Louis city slicker was just too much for her family. As my wife was introducing me to her extended family I hear someone say "look at him all dressed up nice and fancy, I bet you're one of those city folk who voted for that n word Obama." I just looked at my wife like "please get me out of this hillbilly hell..." I've never gone back. Yeeeeeehaaawwww!
Well, you brought in yourself, I'll bet you were wearing pants and had on shoes ;-) Shame on you!
I live in Saint Louis and yes Boonville is exactly like that. I see why tornados go through that place on a regular basis. I'm not surprised, never was.
How the heck can she still talk to them? They are racist as hell! Such people are not to be shown to anybody. I hope SHE is not as racist as them.
I like when lower or middle class income ppl are Republicans, it cracks me up, it's like they're too uneducated and / or ignorant to know what voting a Republican into any political office actually means for them.
Same with British Tory voters...haven't a pot to piss in, but are convinced that the Eton educated, rich as Croesus, upper class twits of the year have the interests of the common people at heart...'but Brexit!' they bleat, 'Brexit!'
Load More Replies...I live in Springfield. It's better than Booneville. That's about all that can be said about it. It should be their motto. "Springfield: better than Booneville"
It's why my dad's side of the family has been estranged from us for decades. They are super religious, been arrested for embezzlement & theft, & constantly throw around racial, religious, & ethnic slurs. Back in the 60s my folks were visiting from PA down in FL. They wouldn't stop using the N word. They made sure to use it even more when my dad told them to STFU. They drove back home Christmas Eve. My dad looked at the character of person, nothing else.
The last time I saw my extended family - aunt, cousins, etc. - for the holidays was during college. They told me I was going to burn in hell for dating a Jew, and the men were screaming the N-word at the TV while watching football.
I went to hang out with my baby cousins, who were in middle and high school, and one of them told me that she learned in their school's sex ed that white people can only get AIDS if they have sex with people of other races.
Once my grandfather passed away I cut contact with all my extended family.
Amazing that you can still find people like that out in the wild. Should be put in zoos.
Let's not be naive, we know Canada has racist too, it may not be like the states but you guys have your share of racist. Let's not forget what you all did to the natives over there?
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Being verbally abused while I was digging a grave for my dog on Thanksgiving morning was the last straw I'm pretty sure.
Well, technically you can... But the authorities tend to from upon it.
Load More Replies...Dogs are better than a lot of people. :-( Leave them behind and never look back. I hope you find some better people and eventually another dog.
I don't understand how some people can be so unkind. I just can't fathom it.
I'm so sorry for your loss and the way you were treated. <3
Sadly, had an ex do the same to me. I'm sorry for your loss, and for such awful treatment.
This one knocked me sideways. Unbelievably sad what that child went through.
Both parents have psychological issues. I spent my childhood taking care of the family. Now that I'm an adult and moved away it's time to take care for myself.
My wife is mentally ill but has a heart of gold. She is truly a wonderful person. 34 years of marriage. But we all know that some mentally ill people use their disease to be total schmucks to others.
I was kicked out at 15, and so refuse to go back
So sorry you had to fo through this. I hope you are healthy and with a more loving family!
I hope you are with people that are better family than your biological one
That's so sad. Why do they do that to their children?
Load More Replies...Never go back. Never ever! There are a lot of people in the world that are better than those which you left behind.
I was made homeless at age fourteen simply because my parents didn't want to spend money on me. When I got older, they wanted me to make money for them. Going full no contact was the best thing I ever did for myself.
And then you somehow manage to do well, anyway, and they want you to act like everything's all hunky-dory?
My parents would routinely give me "gifts" like chocolate or some random thing I don't need like a picture frame. Then they'd go "oh you're too fat to eat it, you don't want that chocolate right?" Then they'd regift my "gift" to their friend's kids. My sister who was in middle school at the time got an iPad and a year later, a MacBook.
Yea, I'd rather not go home to a place that constantly belittles me. I make sure I get my sister a good present but beyond that I'm gone.
Toxic people are the worst. Glad you're not in that situation anymore.
This was posted on Reddit in 2017. Your sentiment to them on this site is wasted.
Load More Replies...Hey.. my parents did this too! Except they'd just outright give my brother incredible things... he'd scoff at it because it wasn't "the right thing" that he wanted... and then somehow it would be MY fault for being so spoiled that I dared to be upset. Example: I had laid out practical reasons and a plan to pay for half a thing (think camera, portable music device, etc.). Come Christmas... I'd 'receive' the item... but then... get an immediate barrage of 'guilt scolding' about how my brother, being the second-child got nothing and what a horrible, cruel sibling I am for getting all these things. So they'd take the thing that I had planned for.. and needed... and just hand it to him - which was usually a thing he didn't want or need. Rinse, Repeat, Escalate. The only 'proof' they ever had that I was 'spoiled' was that I was first-born (but I'm the one who got gifts that were bought 'free with points', wore hand-me-downs, etc.).
Just write down everything, and in two years you will be amazed what you have not been aware of at that time.
Load More Replies...wtf? In my family my parents always tried to make sure gifts were equal.
Yeah, I always assumed everyone did. (Except for Harry Potter, lol)
Load More Replies...offer to give them ur savings when their struggling and say, oh wait.. you don't need this do u?
If your parent think you were "fat", then why the F were they buying you candy in the first place if they were just going to go YOINK and take it away? Sounds like they just wanted to be inhuman jerks at a little kid on Christmas. One day they'll burn in Hell and you can have all the M&Ms you want.
My wife's family is all deceased. The only one left alive on my side is my mother. Whenever we see her, she decides it's time to meddle like hell in our marriage. Last Christmas, after she left, we went to a marriage counselor because things got so bad. Counselor said we are both more than fine and to limit contact with nightmare mother/mother-in-law. We no longer see/hear from her anymore.
As bad as this sounds, sometimes you gotta cut toxic people out of your life
That's not bad at all - because it's emotional survival.
Load More Replies...I'm really tired of the "but they're FAMILY!" when someone reveals they've cut off contact with family members. If they're toxic to you, there's absolutely no reason to keep them in your life. You need to look after your own mental and emotional well-being.
I cut contact with my middle daughter because she is a narcissistic sociopath and the way she behaves towards me made me feel so bad I was suicidal. One of her rare visits before I eventually stood up for myself she left with 95% of my clothes. She had come just as I was putting clean clothes in the wardrobe and she immediately took them off me and said these don't suit you, wrong colour, ugly and by the time she was done I had 3 pairs of knickers, Inc the pair I had on, 2 bras including the one I was wearing, 2 tops and two trousers and 1 skirt as it was the only one out of many that was plain black. Fat women are only allowed to wear black
Load More Replies...My daughter is passive/aggressive, as soon as I told her the new boyfriend was a nice guy and I liked him, he was dropped. So she found a guy who was just unlikeable, she coached him to dislike me, he was rude to me in my own home in front of my grandchildren. So the next Christmas she phoned and said they were all coming to stay at my house. I said fine but don't bring the boyfriend, well she went mental. That was 6 years ago, I've sold up and moved interstate, changed my will. I miss my grandchildren but don't miss my abusive daughter or her nasty boyfriend.
My toxic younger sister, whom I had been close to forever, despite other family members telling me tales of what she had done to them, hit me especially hard when I called her out for supporting my former BFF after said BFF stole from me, knew how to hit me hard. She cut off all contact between me and her children, whom I was the godparent of. I have since relit communication with her now adult son, and hope to do the same with her daughter once she turns 18. She told them terrible things about me that will never be true, and promised to ruin my life over this. She failed. And she broke my damn heart. I still can't believe humans are this cruel, and that she turned out to be just like our mother - a lying, cheating piece of trash.
Load More Replies...I’m all for counselors p/therapists/whatever who encourage people to cut others out of their lives rather than trying to work with those people. Sometimes that’s the best thing to do.
I agree. My sister had a friend from high school who was always immature, conceited, and selfish. She basically drives all her friends away, but my sister kept trying with her because she felt bad. They are in their mid 20s now and her attitude just got worse and worse. I encouraged my sister the cut ties with her because it was tearing my sister apart trying to deal with all the horrible passive aggressive, petty, attention seeking behavior. It was made more difficult though because the friends' parents were were close friends with our parents. Our parents did not listen to the reasons we found it hard to tolerate the friend, and tried to guilt trip my sister into 'giving it another go'. Eventually my sister's psych said it was a good idea to cut contact because it was really impacting her mental health. Unfortunately The friend's bf is a close friend of my sister, so she does occasionally have to see her, but for the most part she is much better off now. It's like a weight has lifted
Load More Replies...Sucks, but I totally get it. I have had to eliminate so many toxic people from my life and it hurts. But my adoptive dad and step sisters get it. I'm not alone, and I wish the same for everyone.
If/when you feel any guilt having to cut off a persistently awful person, remember that it was *their* choices that led to the necessity of cutting them off.
I feel so lucky to have had such wonderful parents, and my mother in law was an angel who welcomed me with open arms.
Some aged care worker will wonder why she gets no visitors in the home. Some people don’t deserve visitors
Cos I want to enjoy the holidays, not spend the entire time listening to the passive aggressivness of my extended family.
Extended family is the worst. We don't go to my grandma's for the holidays anymore because my mom's brother (I refuse to call him uncle) is there. He's got a partner but he doesn't want to spend it with her because he hates her kids (for no reason). He constantly compares me to his partners kids, orders me around and yells at me. Safe to say we hate each other. He's even threatened to kill my dog once. Even my uncle has very limited contact with him for the same exact reasons.
Same. I'm just tired of them and so is my mom. We're in the group of people that have realized over the course of this pandemic that it's not necessarily selfish to put yourself first if a situation really makes you unhappy. So we'll be spending tomorrow with our cat with some good food and happiness, while they're stuck in a loud cramped house with unresolved issues and tension.
You know the jokers we've had in the White House have been trying to destroy family gatherings. When you & your family come together for the holiday, I want you talk about these issues. No, Stick it, Mr. President. When families get together, they are happiest when they avoid politics, social issues, & religion. Politicians are blood sucking parasites who will ruin our relationships with family & friends.
I realised the comments of my extended family resulted in the eating disorder I had in high school.
Despite knowing I was sick due to being hospitalised, when I started eating a healthy amount again they would pick on me and tell me ‘it will all catch up to my figure one day’.
THOSE IDIOTS! I’m so so so sorry you had to go through that.
WOW! Did neither parent step in and shut that s**t down when even a comment just hinting towards such bullshit? I've torn new assholes for way less when it comes to my child.
** I mean if a relative makes a comment that rubs me the wrong way, and nothing remotely close in general to this degree has ever been said.
Load More Replies...if u do go back, as soon as the mashed potatoes touch their mouth, shake ur head and say the same thing.
My grandmother, who never liked me much to begin with because I didn't play hockey, decided to tell my wife, to her face, that she should pass away.
If I ever look in that old b**ch's direction again it will be to spit on her.
I would have poured ice water over the witch. 90% chance that she would melt.
The grandmother is only half Canadian: hockey fanatic; rude as f**k.
Load More Replies...Your old lady should have smacked your Gramma so hard she'd wear out rolling for that remark.
"wear out rolling" LOLOLOLOL - haven't heard that one!!! XD XD XD
Load More Replies...Horrible bitter old witch. Some family members are extremely hard to like let alone love.
My husband's family is just far better at making reliable plans than my family so they usually win out. I can't travel all the way across the country to try and see my sister and brother when they refuse to nail down plans more than a day or two in advance. "Oh you're coming into town. Cool, text us when you get here and we'll try and meet up" the. When I arrive they forgot they had some other obligation half the time. F**ker, you're almost 50 years old. Buy a F**king calendar.
It's not that her family is bad at planning, it's that they really don't give a s**t about her.
I think you're right. If they cared they'd make good plans.
Load More Replies...My siblings are like this, and the same when I invite them to my house. I find it really stressful and rude. I've told them that I need to confirm plans in advance but they still don't, which just tells me they don't respect me.
My SILs has visited us once. The one spent the next 5 years saying she would come visit but never did. After the third time I just stopped believing her.
Load More Replies...My wife's side of the family will ask if they could visit some time next summer. Sure, just make sure to let us know the dates & we will be ready. Summer is almost over & we get a phone call. We are 20 minutes away, can you give us further directions. Yes, to a decent hotel. No warning, no staying with us. They get upset believing a 20 minute warning is good enough.
When people do this, it’s because they don’t want to see you but can’t say that out loud for some reason.
I've refused to beg to see my kids. If I have to ask about holiday/birthday plans more than twice, I don't ask again and then just do my own thing and then refuse to answer text messages "Where are You???"
I cut ties with my brother b/c he doesnt care a stitch about me and realizing it once a year when he asked me for my address to send me a Christmas card was just painful. That was pretty much the only time he talked to me (by text, not phone). And he asked me evey year for several years. Like, you cant even be bothered to write down my address anywhere?? I havent moved, Im in the same freaking place as the last 6 years. Im not entertaining your need to feel like you've somehow fulfilled a familial obligation by sending me a card once a year. I'd rather be treated like a stranger b/c that is the truth. So I simply stopped responding and he stopped talking to me altogether.
I mean I'm bad at remembering stuff, but I took a screen shot of the chat with my step daughter when I asked for her address last October. In the past we just visited or her Dad would swing by when his work took him near them. But Covid and the death of our person vehicle has made that difficult.
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Last trip home found out my mother had been indoctrinated into an islamic based sect (read cult) who's all knowledgeable and benevolent leader advised (forbid) her not to associate with her agnostic child and grandchild. So yahh anyway lots of free time and excess cash this December which is nice.
So mom started following the teachings of a child raping warlord
I'm a Muslim and I'm wondering what kind of tool bag this leader is. Sounds like a dangerous wing nut
To be honest in this case the child probably should stick and explain how sects work and manipulate bit cutting them off from family and friends. Anyone can fall victim to a sect in a vulnerable moment.
I have cousin who married into a Christian based cult like that. Most of our family consider ourselves Christian but we are not that special kind their minister makes himself out to be.
My family is a bucket of crabs. I couldn't get away on my own and had to get outside help. My siblings tried getting out and I watched them get pulled down into the black hole of Suck, over and over. As far as I can tell, even the ones living on their own are still hauled back into the bucket on a regular basis.
I can engage with them from a distance; if I get too close, they will try to re-infect me with their stupid, petty, needy, passive-aggressive squalor.
My parents are not bad people, just incompetent at a lot of important life skills. They are mediocre as parents (obvious favoritism, inconsistent rule enforcement), bad with money, and irresponsible in lots of small ways that left me with all sorts of weird baggage.
My aunt tried to exorcise me at a wedding.
Not the - go on a treadmill fat a** kind of exercise
The- I think she has a demon inside of her let's try and get the demon out with fire and prayer kind.
"Beelzebub isn't up to doing laps around you, Aunt Lilith. He and I are staying home this year. However, his brother Asmodeus is single and would love to go to the gym with you."
Yeah, that clarification is super unnecessary in text form. I know when people say either word out loud they can sound similar, but in text? Why clarify?
Load More Replies...My wife had a psychotic break & developed schizophrenia 33 year ago. Her family insisted in driving the demons out of her. I took my wife to a Christian psychologist. Not what you think. A real down to earth guy. Does medication take away the voiced & the hallucinations? Yes. Well, if your daughter really was demon possessed, the drugs would not have any impact. You cannot drug a demon. Touche'.
My equivalent: “you’re not seizing, the demon is controlling you. Don’t let him in your mind, stand up and be a man!” (I’ve had childhood brain cancer since August 2013, which I have MRIs for, and epilepsy since May 2020, which I take medicine every 12 hours for.)
My parents are divorced, as a kid I was lugged back and forth between the two. If I spent Thanksgiving at one parent's home then I had to spend Christmas at the other. As an adult I don't like to pick sides, so I chose neither and had come to blame the long distance, exams, and now that I'm out of university, I have a full time job as my scape goat. I love both of them, but I would rather spend my time alone than worry about hurting one or the other's feelings.
They don't make him feel that way, he CHOOSES to feel that way
Load More Replies...If you do love them, as you say, perhaps you could spend some non-holiday time with each of them. I know this gets old but when they are gone, you will regret the time not spent. My son hates holiday family gatherings but always finds time to visit without the hoopla. It means a lot.
Had a friend who had the same problem. I am often introduced to people by "She has no filter, brace yourself". I had words with her parents, and got to see a vein on her mum's forehead get bigger and start throbbing . Many, many years later they said thank you.
Make them grow up and deal with each other. Invite them to dinner at the same time.
Same here. I grew up hating holidays and any kind of celebration. Now im finally free of that baggage, if they want to come they need to deal with whoever is present.
Super religious parents, brother is a once pastor, now atheist in a poly marriage. Not worth the drama.
I have some family members who are super religious, there's no way I'm telling them I'm in a poly relationship. Actually they don't even need to know I'm in a relationship
My dad is a conservative armchair anthropologist so he will study me with notebook in hand like Margaret Mead observing the Samoans. I've learned never to watch Rachel Maddow in his house, otherwise he'll break out the 8mm and provide annoying 'and now we find the liberal in its natural habitat' voice-over narration.
Conservative Armchair Anthropologista are the reason why all ape species throw their poop.
Because the first thing my dear relatives have to say is either do I have gifts for them or why did I put on so much weight. Can't I eat my pudding in peace?!?
If they pick on you over your weight, p**s on 'em. Go ahead and scream, "You want me to be f*****g anorexic?"
“I did have a nice gift for you, but I ate it on the way here because f*** you and, oh, look at the time. I’ve got to be somewhere where people love me. Happy Merry!”
And if you dare say something back to them you are disrespectful / rude / sensitive.......
i once had a distant relative come up to me and say "why are you still so fat? You should lose weight." I stared at her and said "speak for yourself. Why are YOU still so fat and why haven't you lost weight yet?" She got angry and said I was being rude to her. I said "I was being as rude as you were." She went to complaint to my dad about my rude behaviour. My dad said to her "You started it". Guess who avoided me for years after.
If they ask you ''did you gain weight?'' ask them ''That's funny, I was just about to ask you the same thing!''
Tell them you tried a diet, but failed at it, and ate their presents.
I don't really have a home to go back to. My dad passed away when I was eleven, my mom when I was fourteen. I was living on my own before I'd even turned sixteen.
There's my grandparents who took me in for a year until I got my own place, but they're both 85+ and have countless other grandchildren and great-grandchildren, so it sometimes feels like I'm just another grain of sand in the desert.
This breaks my heart. Find your own new family- and let them all love you. Go visit your grand parents at other times. And if you need a Grammy hug at the holidays- my arms are open.
Go tell them that on Reddit in 2017 when and where they posted it.
Load More Replies...Same. I have no one at all. No family or extended family, no family home, no hometown (moved very frequently). I've gone without holidays for so long that being around people and their families is very unpleasant/uncomfortable for me. It's like watching an alien reality show- the people are awful and I don't understand the language.
The desert is made of single grains of sand. As a parent,grandparent and a great-grandparent, I can tell you that every one of my people is important to me and missed dearly when I don't see them.
Simply put, my family is full of grudges and alcohol. Holidays are supposed to be full of good feelings but every time one comes around someone mysteriously pulls up drama from 1992 and just ruins everything. So I'm just going to work.
What happened in ‘92? Did you get drunk and puke on granny? Did your brother get caught with his SIL?
Both. And you forgot about her father coming out of the closet after 30 years of marriage.
Load More Replies...Life has so many different facettes. I had to think of an indie movie I found incredibly honest and art wise in the line of John Cassavetes, "Krisha" by Trey Edward Shultz. It is exactly about what is described in this post. The cast is himself, his aunt and his family. I recommend this film for anybody who is trying to understand life through art.
Jesus. My parents are Opus Dei, the intolerance to other ideas is why I left home at 17. That level of "Jesus" is too much to take on anything other than the phone. I will call, I wont visit.
Jesus isn’t a fictional person. And like Viviane said, the problem is intolerance, not religion. People who aren’t religious can be intolerant just as much as people who ARE religious CAN be tolerant. Intolerance is the problem, not Jesus. Especially since Jesus taunt about tolerance.
Load More Replies...A made-up Roman religion with a made-up savior. Yesu or Jesus meant "servant" 2,000 years ago. It's all about control!
Well, religion is society's accepted and encouraged mental illness
Yup. One of the reason for it's recent rise in popularity - that, and one of its significant members was sainted by Pope John Paul II, I believe.
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For some reason my brother and his wife and super unfriendly towards us and my extended family including my parents.
Just for example my parents drove 8 hours to come see them and they ended up sitting in their hotel room all weekend because he would never make plans or would cancel at the last second. Note my parents supported him financially well into his 30's.
So basically every family function consists of my folks coddling to my brother and having him either blow them off or showing up briefly and being a complete a** the whole time.
Plus I have a psycho aunt who attacks me at every moment she gets. I think my family has a lot of mental problems....
Family is mostly passed away (I'm in my 20's). No parents no brothers/sisters/uncles/aunts that live in the area. No reason to visit my hometown other than my in-laws live there. Going back gives me panic attacks.
Very understandable, we live in the same town as most of my husbands family that never gave an f about him growing up, all the people that did care for him passed on, this this time of year does bring more heartache then happiness to some
That is why I do not like Christmas, pleased when it is all over.
Load More Replies...Take cars of yourself and dont go anywhere that make you feel uncomfortable!
SAME! I have no one, and no connection to where I was born. It's fine.
Me as well...my parents are deceased and I have no brothers or sisters. So yes, I am alone for the holidays
Not as interesting as others, but it's just about the location. I moved to San Diego from Indiana about 3 years ago. I hate Indiana. Last time I was there, it was flat as hell (don't expect that to have changed), cold, dreary, and boring as f**k.
I coined a term for the way I felt; Sudden Onset Seasonal Affective Disorder: SO SAD.
I'm afraid that, unless you are Norman E. Rosenthal you didn't coin that phrase.
I had a roommate once proclaim proudly that Indiana, his home state, had the highest number of KKK members. We didn’t stay roommates for very long.
If here is love to share, you can tolerate anything for a day or two.
Moved 1000 miles away from hometown to go to college. Mom told me before I even graduated from high school that I'd better make some friends my first semester, because a round trip flight at thanksgiving wasn't in the budget.
It's not bad. I went home with my roommate last year, and this year I'm staying with my boyfriend. I'm involved with the Macy's parade, so that keeps me busy too. I think if I really wanted to my mom would find a way to fly me back, but I don't mind waiting a few weeks till winter break starts.
I guess she never looked at the price of a plane ticket during thanksgiving.
I never went home for Thanksgiving when I was in college (900 miles from home). I was going to be home three weeks later for Christmas. Why would I expect my parents to pay that expense to fly me home twice in a month?
We paid $700 for our kid to fly home for thanksgiving having no idea we were flying him back for the month 1.5 weeks later. (First one in either of our families to actually go away to university, learning as we go) We love him but work humble jobs and aren't flush with cash. It's not lack of love if it is lack of funds. He is so privileged to have room and board. If he would like to come back more often than we can afford, he can get a job.
I guess if you really wanted to, you could find a way. I know it is hard to believe but, some parents love their kids but seriously cannot afford the "back and forth".
It’s college. You’re an adult. It shouldn’t be up to Mommy to pay for all your travel at this point.
A) You don't have time for a real job while in school. B) She was answering a question, not whining. She said she is fine with it, since she is going home for winter break 2 weeks later.
Load More Replies...People are making it seem like this person is a brat. They literally said they can wait to see their family. It’s the way the parents told them that was a little much. And, kids go to college as young as 16/17 nowadays. “They can just get a job.” Yeah, what job are they working that they can save a lot in a little time at that age?
We've had the holidays by ourselves for around 11 years. My husband, two young adult children and I. All the grandparents have passed on. We used to get together with my husband's brother and his family, but after he divorced, it was too hard to set up plans, since the kids were with their mother some of the time. Everyone is adult now and it's even harder to arrange, since some are now married or involved and have other places to be.
"Home" is now us. My kids miss their cousins. They've missed them for over 10 years and now it's just a happy memory. I hope some day we'll be able to change it, but I don't know how, exactly, to do that.
We had the same issue. Lots of cousins all over the place. We remedied that by having a huge family reunion every year. It wasn't Christmas but that's not the primary goal. We got to spend time and catch up with our aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. The date/holiday didn't matter as much as just being together.
Was going to say that if the kids miss their cousins they should invite them for a get together sometime in the summer, way in advance.
Load More Replies...When your kids have kids of their own, and everyone comes to Grandma’s and Grandpa’s house for the holidays——and it is a warm, happy, joyous gathering. In other words, you have already broken the dysfunctional cycle, and the next generation will never know how bad it had gotten before.
It's always dangerous to romanticise old friendships. People change and the person you knew and appreciated back then, may no longer exist.
Fist fights Killer funny! "Festivus for the rest of us!" Hey I wish we had fist fights! Instead they talk to each other about what they''ll "take" from my house. Maybe they know more about my health than I do. I have to check for their names written on the back of my stuff. Also how they would furnish my house "differently" They are never getting back in! Loading a shotgun from my side of the door (that sound is universal) usually gets rid of everyone.
My father and my step brother's like getting into fist fights every holiday. Oh I also tend to get yelled at a lot but I'm not sure if that has changed seeing I moved over 300 miles away after getting married. I refuse to go home for Christmas even though my husband has tried to convince me. Would much rather go too this state lol
Hope the husband stopped trying to convince her. It's not right when you try to make your SO do things that you know she really doesn't want to do.
Sounds like a loving SO to me. He’s probably concerned that she’ll regret not spending more time with them if they die. Like, what if her mom dies tomorrow and she hadn’t seen her in 3 years because her dad and brother fight. A SO sometimes challenges you, and that’s ok if communication and respect are there.
Load More Replies...Fist fights?! That's funny "Festivus for the rest of us!" (Seinfeld) I wish mine had fist fights! I'd love a little of that action! My relatives stand around deciding what art they would take of mine, how they would furnish my house differently. I'm gonna check for their names written on the back of my stuff. It isn't going to them! They are never getting back in! From my side of the door I don't say anything and the slide on the shotgun is a universal sound and even religious people get the hell off my doorstep.
Fist Fights I love it! I wish we had fist fights! Festivus for the rest of us, (Mr Costanza) The one time I had them over the relatives stood by my paintings deciding what they'd take. 'I'll take this one'-points, 'you like that' one-points. Maybe they know more about my health than I do? Can you imagine the conversation on the ride over? They think they are talking over my head, I'd never guess what they were talking about. Guess what? You aren't getting any art or anything else.
Because they come to my home? Am I doing this right?
Glad you all get together for the holidays. Hopefully it's a good gathering.
Because everyone is now spread out over a massive state that gets insanely cold during the holidays. They can come see me where it's still 70 this time of year.
That or they can wait till I visit in the summer.
My husband doesn't like to go home back east because his parents are now housing his grandmother, who spends her fixed income on all kinds of garbage. They are literally having trouble keeping the house from being overrun by useless junk due to the hoarding. His brother just got married, but due to high cost of living in metro NY they are also living at home. And his brother's new wife? Of course - his ex girlfriend.
My family lives in Brazil and I live in the US. If you didn't already know, Brazil is a predominantly Christian country. If you're not Christian, you're a Satan worshipper. Being a newlyfound atheist, those are not conversations I want to have.
Never argue with idiots. It's like mud wrestling a pig. You can't win and the pig has a great time.
Also, you get dirty, and the pig enjoys it.
Load More Replies...Lot of kids who grew up with religion forced upon them end up being atheists. I'm not necessarily an atheist but I was forced to go to church as a kid. As an adult, I don't go near one.
We stopped having holidays with extended family when I realised that 1) I had cried two xmases in a row, and 2) my SO has never had any input in how all of us celebrate xmas together even when it was at hour place. Oh and 3) It makes sticking to our toddlers' schedule way easier if you celebrate on your own. Can recommend.
I work in the ski industry. That’s why I don’t go home for the holidays.
Sometimes it's best to be home for Christmas. People can be so hurtful, mean, and toxic. Merry Christmas and hugs and love to all
Child of divorce here. Raised by my mother. After my dad's mom passed, my aunt on that side made it pretty clear that I wasn't wanted at the bi-annual Christmas party. I don't know why. All the cousins have moved away from our home town. So every other year my aunt would host a Christmas party and all the cousins would come. I called one year to check on the Christmas party plans for that year, as I was in town and I heard her whisper to her husband something to the effect of I wasn't wanted at the party. I ended the call and essentially cut off all contact. I have enough people that do love me and want me around that I've no need to force that relationship.
Well done! Their behavior reflects very badly on them. Good you’re out.
Load More Replies...Last year (2020) was the first year my parents (mid-70's) didn't host the traditional Xmas for me (single, early 30's, no kids) and my sister (married, late 40's, no kids) because of Covid. It was the best Xmas I've ever had. I went to see them the day after, and the 3 of us just exchanged gifts and had lunch at the house, very low key and mostly no different from any other weekend day. Normally my sister, BIL, and I go there on Xmas Eve, sleep over, and do a big Xmas, bc my sister loves it. The rest of us hate Xmas for a variety of personal reasons. There are so many people that are alone or without extended family by choice that I really wish we could have that "normal" and stop glamorizing the "perfect Xmas" and the "cheery, happy, holiday" that tv wants us to believe is real.
Dad remarried when I was 12, she had two kids from previous marriage. They went on to have three more. Long n short, I was packed off to second rate boarding school, her kids went to an exclusive boarding school. Now they're all married, kids the works. Meet one of the kids once, dad won't invite me or my hubby for Christmas because I had a divorce... HELLO!! He divorced my mum and married a divorcee... hypocrite
My family overall is fine, but I do have this one aunt who is a fountain of negativity(she bitches nonstop) and entitlement. She's a 69 year old woman who has never grown up or had to be responsible for anything. Nothing is ever her fault, it's your problem, not hers, and she's always the one who was wronged. Today is Christmas and I dread knowing that I'm expected to swing by for a visit. I can only take the woman in small doses. If I could get away without seeing her today, I would.
here's one that didn't show up in the lists above... a friend just told me he had been "un-invited" from the big get-together at his sisters'... I asked why, and he said this behavior of getting rid of people was increasingly common with his sister. I asked him if alzheimer's ran loose in that family. "Yes, it does", he said, "her husband died of it a few years ago & his dad several years before that." My take on it was that this was sad evidence of the early-early stages of pre-alzheimer's. The symptoms are unexplained psychological changes, abruptly getting rid of old relationships of family & friends, bad business decisions, and other bizarre behaviors.... "hmm, yes, he said, check, check, check, on all of the above". My reply was "sorry, friend, but your sis is in big trouble. Alz for someone her age runs its course fairly rapidly. Don't over-react & take it mean or ugly, she really doesn't know what she is doing, or what is going on. I know this is sad. I'm sorry. Let me know if I can help in any way" And yes, she needs to go to a shrink for diagnosis & treatment if this is what's going on.
Ummmm, Alzheimer’s may run in families but her husband’s family isn’t blood related to HER - or are they?!
Load More Replies...My entire family doesn’t accept me for who I am, they’re toxic and love love love to guilt trip and my extended family gets very amped about politics, my uncle is blatantly homophobic and transphobic and I’m panromantic and agender, so he thinks I’m the worst of the worst, my cousins are altogether b*tches except my one male cousin and I can always just text him. And that’s just my mom’s side of the family. My dad’s is full of drug and alcohol abuse and they’re altogether dysfunctional. My mom’s asked how in the world my aunt and uncle are still married and my younger cousin is probably gonna move out and never look back, same as me. My grandparents are ALL split up and constantly fight, my grandmothers are passive aggressive with each other and I’ve never met my grandpa on my dad’s side. Because drugs. He got a DUI charge recently and I overheard my dad screaming at him over the phone about it. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to get all that out.
My parents died when I was a teenager. My moms family is too large for christmas get togethers, they all do it with their own families. My dads family doesn't talk to me. My step-dads family, any time I show up for a holiday or anything, it is wicked awkward. He remarried, and our strained relationship became weird and strained and my aunts/uncle/grandparents on that side never know what to do with me. i'm already a nervous, socially anxious person, I avoid it so I don't have to feel horrendous going back knowing i'm not wanted. So I sit alone knowing I'm not wanted. But I have the pets that like me and projects to keep me busy. So that's nice.
When I was a kid Christmas was a huge thing in my family, on my dad's side. Long over with now because of inheritance. Surprise, surprise.
Sometimes it's best to be home for Christmas. People can be so hurtful, mean, and toxic. Merry Christmas and hugs and love to all
Child of divorce here. Raised by my mother. After my dad's mom passed, my aunt on that side made it pretty clear that I wasn't wanted at the bi-annual Christmas party. I don't know why. All the cousins have moved away from our home town. So every other year my aunt would host a Christmas party and all the cousins would come. I called one year to check on the Christmas party plans for that year, as I was in town and I heard her whisper to her husband something to the effect of I wasn't wanted at the party. I ended the call and essentially cut off all contact. I have enough people that do love me and want me around that I've no need to force that relationship.
Well done! Their behavior reflects very badly on them. Good you’re out.
Load More Replies...Last year (2020) was the first year my parents (mid-70's) didn't host the traditional Xmas for me (single, early 30's, no kids) and my sister (married, late 40's, no kids) because of Covid. It was the best Xmas I've ever had. I went to see them the day after, and the 3 of us just exchanged gifts and had lunch at the house, very low key and mostly no different from any other weekend day. Normally my sister, BIL, and I go there on Xmas Eve, sleep over, and do a big Xmas, bc my sister loves it. The rest of us hate Xmas for a variety of personal reasons. There are so many people that are alone or without extended family by choice that I really wish we could have that "normal" and stop glamorizing the "perfect Xmas" and the "cheery, happy, holiday" that tv wants us to believe is real.
Dad remarried when I was 12, she had two kids from previous marriage. They went on to have three more. Long n short, I was packed off to second rate boarding school, her kids went to an exclusive boarding school. Now they're all married, kids the works. Meet one of the kids once, dad won't invite me or my hubby for Christmas because I had a divorce... HELLO!! He divorced my mum and married a divorcee... hypocrite
My family overall is fine, but I do have this one aunt who is a fountain of negativity(she bitches nonstop) and entitlement. She's a 69 year old woman who has never grown up or had to be responsible for anything. Nothing is ever her fault, it's your problem, not hers, and she's always the one who was wronged. Today is Christmas and I dread knowing that I'm expected to swing by for a visit. I can only take the woman in small doses. If I could get away without seeing her today, I would.
here's one that didn't show up in the lists above... a friend just told me he had been "un-invited" from the big get-together at his sisters'... I asked why, and he said this behavior of getting rid of people was increasingly common with his sister. I asked him if alzheimer's ran loose in that family. "Yes, it does", he said, "her husband died of it a few years ago & his dad several years before that." My take on it was that this was sad evidence of the early-early stages of pre-alzheimer's. The symptoms are unexplained psychological changes, abruptly getting rid of old relationships of family & friends, bad business decisions, and other bizarre behaviors.... "hmm, yes, he said, check, check, check, on all of the above". My reply was "sorry, friend, but your sis is in big trouble. Alz for someone her age runs its course fairly rapidly. Don't over-react & take it mean or ugly, she really doesn't know what she is doing, or what is going on. I know this is sad. I'm sorry. Let me know if I can help in any way" And yes, she needs to go to a shrink for diagnosis & treatment if this is what's going on.
Ummmm, Alzheimer’s may run in families but her husband’s family isn’t blood related to HER - or are they?!
Load More Replies...My entire family doesn’t accept me for who I am, they’re toxic and love love love to guilt trip and my extended family gets very amped about politics, my uncle is blatantly homophobic and transphobic and I’m panromantic and agender, so he thinks I’m the worst of the worst, my cousins are altogether b*tches except my one male cousin and I can always just text him. And that’s just my mom’s side of the family. My dad’s is full of drug and alcohol abuse and they’re altogether dysfunctional. My mom’s asked how in the world my aunt and uncle are still married and my younger cousin is probably gonna move out and never look back, same as me. My grandparents are ALL split up and constantly fight, my grandmothers are passive aggressive with each other and I’ve never met my grandpa on my dad’s side. Because drugs. He got a DUI charge recently and I overheard my dad screaming at him over the phone about it. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to get all that out.
My parents died when I was a teenager. My moms family is too large for christmas get togethers, they all do it with their own families. My dads family doesn't talk to me. My step-dads family, any time I show up for a holiday or anything, it is wicked awkward. He remarried, and our strained relationship became weird and strained and my aunts/uncle/grandparents on that side never know what to do with me. i'm already a nervous, socially anxious person, I avoid it so I don't have to feel horrendous going back knowing i'm not wanted. So I sit alone knowing I'm not wanted. But I have the pets that like me and projects to keep me busy. So that's nice.
When I was a kid Christmas was a huge thing in my family, on my dad's side. Long over with now because of inheritance. Surprise, surprise.
