No human enters this crazy wide world with a formed personality springing forth from their genes. Of course, there’s part of that plays a role in how we go about our lives, but much of the other half is directly linked with the upbringing we had.
And although it’s hard to determine what “good” and “bad” parenting styles are like, some of us indeed lacked attention and affection and didn’t develop a close relationship with our parents.
So when someone asked “What screams 'You weren't loved by your parents as a child' without saying it” on r/AskReddit, it was destined to stir a thread of thoughtful responses. Below we selected some of the most interesting ones, so scroll down and share if you agree with them or not in the comment section.
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I was going to say this. I had to apologize to my stepmom for breathing loud, for standing somewhere she'd just decided she wanted to stand, for not being in a room when she suddenly decided she wanted to tell me something, for needing to eat and sleep and use the bathroom.
People would laugh about how they could yell 'hey, come here!' and the moment I got there I'd apologize first thing. But it was an absolute survival mechanism.
Poor child. Some people are sadists and should be arrested if they even look at a kid. Imagine the hell this child went through and the struggles she has now.
I agree. Some people really shouldn't be allowed to raise children. The poor guy needs therapy because of her
Load More Replies...I never knew what kind of mood my mother would be in when I got up in the morning. Some days she would be fine, other days, she would be in a mood and literally not talk to me or even acknowledge my existence for weeks on end. I always got up early and had coffee made, make sure my siblings were up and fed and ready for school, basically anything I could to make her morning easier and not set her off. To this day, if I can't read what someone is thinking/feeling, i immediately assume that I've done something wrong and they are upset with me.
No one should have to feel like they have to apologize just for existing. This stepmom sounds terrible and her dad is terrible for not stopping this.
I know. What the heck was he doing? Or, maybe he's too busy with work that he doesn't have time for his child and only believes whatever his wife tells him.
Load More Replies...One of my Dad's ex-girlfriends would get mad when my flip flops made the slapping sound. Tried to punish me for it by hitting me. Needless to say, she wasn't my Dad's girlfriend for much longer.
Can say I do this… everyone gets mad at me for it (or they’re just concerned) but I can’t help it at this point..
I'm 39 years old and I still get a trickle of panic any time I go to move the a/c vent in any car I am in. My aunt slapped me multiple times in a row on one cheek and busted my lip for adjusting the a/c vent when it was chilling me when I was around 11-12. Then she screeched, "You do not touch!" And she put the ac on full blast I guess to teach me a lesson?. Ever since I tend to leave the vents exactly where they are even if I'm in the car by myself. I've tried to untrain myself but I still do it. She was evil. I literally celebrated when I heard my uncle finally left her.
One thing that I know I did a lot is have an extremely exaggerated personality because of how bad your social anxiety is. You constantly think everyone is judging you, so you have this carefully calculated sort of facade. You seem funny and spontaneous and extroverted, easy to talk to and friendly, basically you become that quirky weird kid. You try so hard to be funny and likable, be just weird enough but in a sort of funny way, so that people will like you. Then you get home and are absolutely drained because you really have no social battery but force yourself to have one because that's what your carefully crafted personality calls for. You seem spontaneous and funny but really every move is carefully calculated.
In people on the autism spectrum this is adapting to the people/situation around you is also called "masking"
Yep, I mask constantly, even around people that really know me
Load More Replies...Getting back home and judging yourself for all the mistakes and ‘stupid’ things you said trying to be extroverted.
This always happens to me. As if everything and anything happened that day or weeks/months ago (maybe even years ago), bounces back hard at me. Then, I start feeling like a complete idiot then I disappear from the social scene for a while.
Load More Replies...this is me. my WHOLE LIFE. at the end of the school day I don't even have the energy to talk to people on the bus. i just can't. so i sit there on my phone, and then PEOPLE GET MAD AT ME FOR USING MY PHONE.
To find out just how exactly our upbringing affects us later in life, Bored Panda reached out to Susan Petang, a certified life coach from “The Quiet Zone Coaching,” teaching women how to stop feeling overwhelmed and start waking up happy in the morning again.
“The relationship we have with our parents is super important,” Susan stated and continued: “When we're children, the adults in our lives are our role models. They show us what it's like to be mothers and fathers, wives and husbands, and how to handle problems, stress, and difficulty.” According to her, we emulate their behavior, whether we realize it or not.
You don’t miss them, like at all.
Same. Never even thought about it before, but I have never for even a split second missed my stepfather, who was in my life from 7 to 19. I was away at college when my mom divorced him. Never said goodbye and haven't seen him since. Don't know if he's alive or dead and don't care! It's crazy to realize I care so little for someone who "raised" me.
Load More Replies...Stockholm Syndrome isn’t universal. I wanted to hit 18 and get TF out of my parents’ house from the time I was about 10 or 11. I did it too, and never looked back. You would be amazed at how quick and easy it can end up being to not even think about people whose every mean and nasty whim you had to try to anticipate, like the woman above whose stepmother would get irate at her standing somewhere stepmom just suddenly decided she wanted to stand. I bet stepmom also yelled at her for not just knowing that. You know, read her mind. Those memories will fade, and you will finally be able to become the real strong and confidant you, not the anxious nervous wreck you trying to read some asshole’s mercurial mind.
I wish that wasn't true, and it's not Stockholm Syndrome. It's beaing taught from birth that you are nothing. That you exist to serve them. That their issues are your fault. I never felt like a prisoner who then identified. Form age 12 on, all I did was work/plan to get the f*ck out and stay gone. And I did, and I have ----- but the complex PTSD is real, and crippling at times. If it'd been just my dad, maybe okay, but he and my much-older sis.... Yeesh.
Load More Replies...I think of them sometimes. Usually in nightmares, then I scream awake. Ah, childhood. Please never send me back in time to relive mine.
I can so relate. There’s a wonderful radio host I like to listen to that ends every program with “Remember,: It’s never too late to have a happy childhood”. And every time I think. Nope. It is too late to have a happy childhood- but it's never too late to have a happy adulthood. Still working on that.
Load More Replies...It's ironic. I actually cried more about my mother's passing than my Dad's. I think it was because my Dad had Alzheimer's that robbed him of who he was...and it was a relief when he passed that he was no longer suffering. My mother died suddenly and unexpectedly. I think I cried more because I was pissed that she was gone and that she never came around to realizing what a horrible person she'd been. I was hoping the light would come on before she left this earth.
Mine passed and I was mad I didn't get to strangle the sad b**ch myself.
Load More Replies...When I hear people say that they love their mother,I always wonder what that's like.
I'm so sorry you didn't have the bond and love with your mom. I wish you did. Maybe I e day you'll have a surrogate mom. My neighbour is my adopted grandmother because all my mine died when I very young. She always say Oh, bless your socks sweetheart...makes me laugh everytime.
Load More Replies...Not only, but a lingering feeling of relief when they passed. And I don't feel any guilt over not missing them.
Same. Both of mine are dead, and I felt glorious nothing. No tears, not even sad, just hugely relieved. I contemplated asking for a vial of ashes to flush down the toilet, but decided against it. I didn’t want those f*****s polluting my damn ground water.
Load More Replies...Resonating........................................REALLY resonating.
Load More Replies...My parents always made me aware of the fact that I was a mistake. They blamed me for looking nothing like the rest of the family ( blue eyes & blonde hair for me and dark brown hair and brown eyes for everyone else.) They criticized everything I did, despite me trying extra hard to please them so I would feel loved. It was never enough. In 1997, I left home never to return. I haven't talked to my sibling in 16 years or my parents in 24 years. They don't even know that I have a daughter that's now at a elite college. Raising my daughter (by myself) was all about ensuring that I did the opposite of what my parents did. As a result, she & I are super close. Always have been. No clue if my parent's are alive or not. Don't care either. I've moved past all the insecurities they gave me, but never forgot them. That's impossible.
It is hard to forget them. Just when you think you might have you get into a situation they rear their ugly head. I am so glad that you have made a good life for yourself and your daughter. I'm glad you made the conscious decision to be the opposite. You didn't perpetuate things as so often happens. Congrats to you for breaking that cycle.
Load More Replies...My dad passed away in 2019. Still haven't shed a tear. And yes, he was an abusive, controlling SOB.
I've had two girlfriends who were able to cry completely silently. Not just a few tears, but full ugly, balling your eyes out crying, with absolutely zero noise.
The first one I knew about her past, but the second I was completely blindsided. She didn't speak about her past, but had said that other than 'occasionally arguing' with her father she's has a good enough childhood. When I saw it, it absolutely sent chills down my spine, and I immediately knew. When I later asked her about it, and mentioned that people only learn that out for quite narrow reasons, the flood gates opened I learned more about her childhood than I was ready to.
I too, learned how to cry silently for fear of an ex who would get more angry and abusive if he caught me actually crying and making noise. Happily, I have been with my husband for 12 years now, and he loves me, crying or laughing. Also happy to say the latter occurs much more often than the former.
Sheila, this is horrible and I'm glad you have found happiness now.
Load More Replies...Crying at all, even silently, was punishable by pain in my childhood, so you just don't cry. Ever. I still can't cry. I can weep a few tears silently, but a good cry? No. That just got more pain. Not worth it.
I feel like this happens a lot more to little boys, and it's really heart-breaking, no matter who it happens to. Everyone should be allowed space to just have their feelings, without judgment.
Load More Replies...I can also cry completely silently. I learned how to when I locked myself in a bathroom at my abusive dad's house
I cry silently too, and I've never connected it to my childhood before. I never wanted my stepdad to hear me cry because he was relentlessly verbally abusive, and I did everything I could to avoid him and his attention. I spent as much time as I could in my room and tried to make myself invisible when he was home.
Load More Replies...I am now over seventy years old and very rarely through my life have I cried. My adoptive mother would beat me and say that she would 'break my spirit and make me cry' which made me determined not to give her the satisfaction even though it prolonged the agony. She stopped when i was fifteen and gave her a really great right hook!
My brother tries really hard not to cry because when he lived with his bio parents they would get mad if he cried. They wanted him to "be a man".
My daughter cries and she doesn't do it often, but the first thing I want to do is hug her.
I'm only seeing the connection myself now it's been pointed out.
Load More Replies...I’ve learned how to silent cry for reasons in my childhood, but I don’t know if they’re still relevant today. I still don’t want my parents to see all my true emotions, but things are different now and I don’t know if they’d react the same way. Better not to risk it
Im able to do this because my mom would get mad if she caught me crying.
Not liking or loving yourself.
Being able to identify people by their foot steps, the sound of their car outside, how they move around the house, etc.
holy crap I do this, I can tell who is walking down the halls and how angry they are and so my mind goes to danger levels...s**t.
Teal&Pink, do you have someone at school you can talk to?
Load More Replies...I know who is walking upstairs or down the halls. And my parents are fine lmao
Aware, and hyperalert are different. Hyperalert people need to protect themselves from molesting and abusive people and get anxiety each time they hear it. You probably have no physical/psychological reaction to your parent.
Load More Replies...I can recognize the bells on my cats collar, I can recognize people’s breathing. I can recognize the sound the old floor boards make and can figure out who stepped on it and what direction they were moving. I hear it and it clicks and I can become “perfect” in seconds. It’s all out of fear and I know how messed up it is.
Survival mechanism. And this isn't just in abuse situations. Some peope just do notice things ------ but I'm from a military-oriented family, so that may be situational awareness, more than anything?
Absolutely agree. Having awareness of yourself, surroundings, and other people. Does not in anyway equal abuse.
Load More Replies...I used to get in a panic state if I heard a motorbike drive up to our house. (An abusive family member drove one.) Our neighbour now has one, and it took me about six months to stop going into a panic when I heard it. And yet, sometimes I hear it at an odd time and go into a panic all over again.
I have not lived in the same house as my father for 20 years but I still get chills and freeze in panic when someone in my house stomps up the stairs in similar pace as my father used to.
Load More Replies...I can identify these things, and my childhood was loving. While this may be something that people with hypervigilance rely on for survival/safety, it doesn't mean other people don't notice them too.
I agree. I've always known who was walking past by their footsteps, and it wasn't an abusive or unhappy home.
Load More Replies...I learned to recognize my mother's car simply because our cats reacted to it. And I have always been able to identify people by their footsteps. Without any dark reasons. It's just their own personal rhythm, like their voice.
Simple: my mom has slow heavy footsteps, my dad has slight taps, my big brother has faster heavy footsteps, my little brother has slow regular footsteps, my little sister either stomps or has really fast footsteps, my other little brother has slow quiet footsteps, my baby sister (toddler technically) has kind of a thunk.
The bottom line is a defence mechanism. I wouldn't be surprised if you always know all exits the moment you enter a building, and know where the cameras are
Your ability can mean a variety of things: you're very perceptive with sound; you're hyper-vigilant so that you can decide how to react before actually seeing the person.
Load More Replies...Moreover, Susan warned that lack of attention and affection can cause all kinds of emotional dysfunction later in life. “Lack of self-esteem and the inability to communicate, resolve problems, and manage stress are just some of the problems that can result.”It’s important to understand that what “we observe as children guides our behavior later in life,” Susan said.
“If our parents didn't get along with others, we probably won't, either; if the adults in our lives were distant, remote, critical, or negative, the chances are high that we'll do the same.”
Constantly apologising for basically existing.
The physically abused tend to do this. That startled look and an immediate apology. God, the things people do to others, it's depressing.
My mom was verbally and mentally abusive, it’s degrading but my aunt passed it off and told me, “She has anxiety, depression and ADHD. How she treats you is the least of my concern.” That was shattering, it took me months to tell her. She worked at CPS at the time, I saw her as my second mom. And I was thrown aside just like that.
Load More Replies...Sounds like me. Although I believe mine comes from the constant bullying I suffered through school.
Oh no Foxxy. I'm so sorry. Bloody bullies, they damage others too. Bless you.
Load More Replies...I was parentally; beaten, forced to eat soap, starved, locked up, stripped publicly, screamed at, denigrated publicly. I always think everything's my fault and I am not good enough for anyone. When I get in argument with loved one my whole body goes cold and I will do anything to accept them blame. I took beatings for my brother, as he was a rather simple soul and as above I exaggerated my personality to gain attention, using humour to ingratiate myself to people. I always over analyse and can't relax if things are going OK as I fear the monsters of my past. This is the first time I have publicly told this, outside of close friends. kristian-k...3018fd.jpg
If I maintain constant distractions (like I am now), I can usually get through the day without the looping thoughts. Bedtime was the worst because with no distractions my whirling thoughts kept me awake. Thankfully, medical cannabis has solved that problem.
Load More Replies...THIS! Women walk around this world apologizing for basically existing even without having suffered any trauma/abuse. Ladies, stop apologizing for everything. We apologize for bumping into people, walking in the same space as people. Stop apologizing. Start saying "excuse me." It's just as polite but you are no longer apologizing for taking up space that you absolutely belong in. I've been teaching my niece this. I've been speaking to women anytime I hear them apologizing. Stop apologizing for existing.
And then apologizing for apologizing when people mention that you apologize too much.
Comes from emotional abuse too. How can people be so cruel, it's unbelievable.
You make yourself a target by doing this. Some see it as self pity too. The one who's quick to appease. Is the quickest to get a reprimand. They get confused & upset. When others get away with everything bad. People need to learn to not devour their own tail. But to carefully lash with it. With confidence! Be cold, bold to stir envy of you.
My psychiatrist had me buy a counter to push every time "I'm sorry" came out of my mouth in a day and keep a record of it. One day the number was 120 something; my boyfriend says I am in the 50's now. It is humiliating and so hard to break.
Not being able to self validate. No one taught you how to be confident and sure of yourself.
Poor decision making/indecisive.
Insecure attachments.
Ouch I'm feeling called out all over this article. Interesting though
Okay, feel myself here too. Especially this. My parents never, ever.. encouraged, inquired, acknowledged anything we did, in a positive manner. It was always, why not this, why missing that, what more could you be doing? Never, ever.. enough. Never ever sure on what to do, was it worthwhile, was it correct, meaningful? I am at 29 now and FINALLY, have confidence in who I am. Now, it is learning what do I realy want, and how do I get it. Currently college grad working as a sub.
This is a daunting task I'm still working on. Living alone is helping me stay on course.
Insecure attachments meaning...? Like being clingy? Or having attachments to objects?
Theory of attachment -> types of attachment (just google it). From childhood trauma to dysfunctional and insecure in relationships
Load More Replies...For a long time, self-validation was the only validation I got. I had to find it outside the family.
"Normal basic things everyone struggles with" Yeah, thats a sign alright, of a badly researched list of sh1te.
Being shocked when a “kid” says how much they love their parent and they mean everything to them and the parent is loving and affectionate
I was surprised to see how loving and caring my boyfriend’s parents are, along with how welcoming of a home they had. And the cool thing is that they’ve treated me as their own, I’ve been able to have the parent relationships that I’ve wanted for so long and I’m very grateful for that
Same here except none of my ex's families were caring either
Load More Replies...Yeah, going to friends’ houses, especially for parties and sleepovers, and seeing how their parents are with the kids and else each other. My parents’ marriage was contentious at best, vicious at worst. I never saw them hug or kiss, and never heard them say “I love you” to each other. So seeing other kids’ parents being affectionate with each other, and comfortable around all the children, was odd to me. In a nice way that I wish I had at home too. That’s when I promised myself to not be just like my parents, and make sure my own husband and children always knew how much I love them and want them happy. I grew up in an unhappy home, I was determined not to grow old in one too.
It's near impossible to understand a loving relationship between parent and child if you've never experienced it. I know it happens, but it's purely an academic understanding for me.
Same! And having to explain it to someone…. Yikes! We’re not alone!
Load More Replies...ah yes, when I see a kid hugs his parent I'am also very shocked. I'am always asking me why he is doing this, better run away from your parents
I was shocked to see adults showing affection to one another. I was 9 years old when I learned that moms and dads would kiss each other and hold hands. Let that sink in for a while.
The good thing is: you can have this loving home if you work on your mental health and do it better in the next generation. I love my hone now. I hug and kuss my kids. I tell them how wonderful and special they are, i have a wonderful husband. We all love each other. And i hope one day my kids will be happyto visit us. Not fear it like i do with my parents.
I'm lucky - I see my sister and her husband being unconditionally loving and nurturing with their little boy, and it reminds me of how my own parents were with us. 🥰
Or when people really do enjoy being with their parents and siblings. "Yay, I'm going to visit my family!" versus "Aw crap, I have to go see my parents."
“It's also possible that we'll become the extreme opposite of our parents. For example, a girl who has an emotionally unavailable mom might decide that she's not going to be like her mother—and might end up being used and taken advantage of emotionally, instead.”
If you’re wondering, Susan assured us that it doesn't mean that you're doomed to a miserable life if your parents weren't warm and fuzzy. “Even if your childhood role models were poor, it's still possible to learn how to have healthy relationships and positive behavior,” the life coach concluded.
My special talent is breaking into full-on hysterics in total silence *with my bedroom open* and then less than 2 minutes later, walk out of my room and nobody has a clue I just had a total breakdown.
I cried myself to sleep most my 26 years so you just get used to it and forget it's not normal.
My habit is to hide in the bathroom and have a silent meltdown, then panic over how I’m gonna fix my face before I leave the room. Usually results in cold water and eye drops being on hand.
And it hits worse when your sibling screams at you after years that inspite of all your efforts everyone knew you were crying all along. That they just couldnt care less. And so now you sit in the living room and cry silently when everyone goes about their day not giving a flying f**k as to why you are breaking down.
Load More Replies...Question for the floor - is this an abuse thing? A friend who was pretty severely traumatised still has the ability to do this even though she's doing great. Anytime something bad has happened in the present, she bawls for 2 minutes then switches off, like nothing ever happened? I worry that she can't process it/is too overwhelmed but I want to understand this better for her ❤️
I've literally gone into full hysterics while I was on the bed next to my bf's computer and he didn't hear a thing
We abused are merely actors on a stage, desperately navigating through life without the benefit of a script.
I do that. But I've had a strong relationship with my parents.
i can do the walk out after two minutes and no one ever knows, you just gotta learn how to make it look like you weren't crying or panicking
Constant need of approval by an authority figure. For example, trying to constant please your history teacher that kind reminds of your dad, so everytime he grades you well you feel like you accomplished something, even though he's just your teacher, not your dad, he won't listen to your problems or be present. He's just grading the tests.
You might be surprised about the teacher listening. Many of us try to provide an ear for kids in need.
true, while i had pretty decent pair of parents growing up a lot of my teachers were basically a second pair of parents helping me through school life.
Load More Replies...Some parents are impossible to please. I know someone who spent half his life trying. It wasn't until he realized that he was okay and he'd never measure up to her. Once he stopped trying he was able to love himself and be proud of his accomplishments. As a result, his relationship with his Mom is much better.
My siblings and I didn't have to constantly please our parents. They just wanted us to do the best we could and that was it.
My parents were like that. However my dad was stoic like his mother. I longed for his affection. I became very much like him. Later when he had terminal cancer, he said "I love you," a lot. I was blessed to have it. I'm now more affectionate in my relationships.
Load More Replies...I married a particular man just to earn my mother's love. I don't recommend this. I divorced him because I couldn't justify maintaining the pretense.
Try having a military dad who was gone more than he was present. He wasn't there for most of your childhood, deployed for your high school graduation and 18th birthday, but YOU never measure up and it will stay with you for the rest of your life.
Addition: when he was home, he raged about anything and everything. If my mom made the wrong dinner, it ended up plastered on the wall.
Load More Replies...What Nate was doing to Ted Lasso 😞 (Also known in psychology as transference.)
Having a huge void in your life where no matter how much love you receive, it’s never enough and you never feel like enough.
… or so I’ve heard.
Many addicts know exactly what you are talking about. Sometimes it's called the feeling of having a "hole in the soul".
That rings a bell. You never feel good enough or that you're worthy of love. It's a horrible feeling one has to carry.
I've relied on animals to fill this void no human is capable of. I've come to accept this at this late stage of life.
More like Imposter Syndrome, where you feel like any minute now, you’re going to be found out and exposed as a fraud who doesn’t deserve to be loved. Like your parents said during your entire childhood.
To me it felt like a huge void in my chest (where others have their parents love) for over 40 years until I found a friend who is like me 99% and that friend's love for me is unconditional.
Having trouble asking for basic needs.
I feel like this all the time. I feel like I'm even forcing my husband to be with me, and asking him for things can be too much much of a bother. Especially if it's for me.
You are worth it Aski. He is with you because he loves you and he certainly thinks you are worth it! Hug for you.
Load More Replies...I usually start by saying "can I ask you a huge favour" even if it's the smallest of things, like asking for a drink.
My father was in charge of me for the last two years I went to high school. He kept noticing clothes wearing out and that I would never ask for things other kids did. When he asked me why, I said everytime I asked mom, she'd have a fit about how expensive it was and that we had no money. Turned out we had no money because my mother was going drinking and gambling 3 times a week. My father had no idea.
My mother always made sure to make it very obvious that whatever I asked for was a burden, even if it was a necessity. She never said it in words, but she would click her tongue and huff. Now I hate asking for anything.
When I was single—-and I was shy of marriage, so didn’t marry until I was 40, after really getting to know my husband inside and out—-it was rare for me to reach out and ask for help for anything. Didn’t help that so many of the people who volunteer themselves to help you (you know, “if you need help with anything, just call me and I’ll be right there”) suddenly disappear from the face of the earth when you actually need them. It’s what made me finally decide the only person I could count on 100% was myself. I now wish I’d felt I could ask for help, as I could’ve avoided so damn much hardship and setbacks if I had. But that’s hindsight.
difficulty trusting others
I trust people... to act for their own advantage.
Load More Replies...If I start to trust someone I lash out at them to make them hate me so I can then be reassured I was right not to trust them. So f’ing upsetting.
It sounds like you've been through a lot of pain and you're trying to protect yourself from more of it, even at the cost of possible rewards.
Load More Replies...Made the early part of my relationship with my husband really tough for him, and it lasted for years. I do trust him now, maybe not 100%—-that’s a helluva lot to ask for, considering all the what-ifs I’ve allowed to roll around in my way over analytical brain—-but nearly.
I like to say that my trust is difficult to come by. It is true, to my knowledge. I'm always waiting for the day when those I trust betray me.
Difficulty in trusting others with my well-being, especially thoughts and emotions. To survive had to trust others to just be who they are trustworthy or not.
I have really good parents, siblings, extended family, and friends. No matter how much all of them love me. I still feel most of these.
Spending every moment of your waking life, all 20 hours a day of it, overanalyzing everything and everyone for that exact moment they are going to snap and lash out at you.
Mine is similar, but instead of lashing out I'm coiled every minute of every day to defend myself verbally. I'm waiting to be blamed. For everything. All the time. For dissapointing.
Absolutely understand where you’re coming from - afraid, coiled, and an unrelenting barrage of hate. Please know that you were never and are never a disappointment - it’s their own self hatred, and disappointment but an unwillingness to accept accountability for themselves, so they make sure someone else pays the price for them. I’m so sorry you have had this in your life.
Load More Replies...Every time someone doesn't reply to a message I have sent (for various reasons, like simply not being available at that specific moment), I immediately assume I said something I shouldn't have said, that that person is mad at me and that, most certainly, that person is "angry" and will never talk to me again. So I feel bad, I have panic attacks, I overanalyze my message and then ... some time later, that person replies super normally and I realize there was absolutely no problem whatsoever.
OMG! I thought, I was the only one. Then you stew over it for days on end, mulling over it, wishing that you didn't say or do what you said or did - or, maybe you should've rephrased it better. Then, self-deprecation starts kicking-in. What a relief it is, when they finally reply.
Load More Replies...I managed to get past this one with help, but I'll never lose hypervigilance entirely. It's a survival mechanism from birth onward, so .... I just try to talk myself down *quickly*
It either feels like 20 hours or some have insomnia form the anxiety.
Load More Replies...Turning in assignments at school or finalizing projects at work. Constantly tweaking them, because you’re trying to second guess how they’ll be received by the instructor or boss—-because you desperately want them to like it.
That can be a tough one. I had that problem for a long time. I didn't hand in assignments because they were incomplete and then I would fail the course. The turning point was when I started studying again, handed in an incomplete assignment, and got a really good mark! It turned out the instructor really liked what he read and felt I had covered the material thoroughly.
Load More Replies...I am basically asexual because I can't feel attracted to someone unless I feel emotionally safe with them.
Absolutely! Kids who grow up in chaotic or violent households tend to do that. This is why I hate confrontations and avoid them at all costs.
They can't mention any achievement without "balancing" it with a mistake.
Your whole family sees you as nothing but a punchline.
The only reason you fear them outliving you is that they'd use your funeral as an excuse to humiliate you even further in front of people who actually cared.
This is awful. You deserve so much credit for every achievement and accomplishment.
You are obviously modern minded and not part of the "participation awards are stupid" group many of us had as kids.
Load More Replies...Never mentioning achievements, b/c you're trained to think you don't have any.
When I announced to my mother that I was choosing Anthropology for my major, she laughed. I asked why it was so funny. She said "You almost failed 9th grade science and you choose a science field for your major. Good Luck with that." It pissed me off enough that it motivated me to show her up. I graduated with a 3.5 in Anthropology. I was shocked when she actually said she was proud of me...no other comment.
Sounds like my family/relatives. Now that I'm gazillion miles/kilometers away from them, I don't tell them much anymore. Good for you for showing them what you can really do; and I am more prouder for you than she. 🏆
Load More Replies...My mother illustrated this PERFECTLY yesterday, when I told her that her grandson was nominated for a very prestigious award...one that is accompanied by a black tie gala and statuettes...(I'm so proud of him I could burst) and not one second passed before she says, "oh it's a Junior category" SMH. Thankfully, he wasn't in listening distance of the great dream killer
you only need youe own validation for what you achieve. You did the work for you.
I've had suicidal thoughts in the past and, will not lie, my death not being a source of sympathy and spotlight attention for my father was a motivator to stay alive. I've watched him milk other deaths in the family.
If my mom ever said anything that resembled a compliment, you *always* had to wait for the punchline - there always was one.
Seeing your phone ringing with your parents name and having an anxiety attack about answering.
Honestly, I think this one is a lot broader than having had a troubled childhood. My parents were great, but I still get anxiety when they call because I know they're going to want me to do something for them that's probably going to be at best inconvenient. I love my parents deeply, but sometimes they expect to be my top priority regardless of anything else—because my sister and I were always *their* top priority growing up. It's hard to live up to that kind of expectation.
Always, always let their calls go to voicemail. That way, if you feel you should call them back, you can at least prepare yourself.
Anxiety, cold sweat, shaking hands, all the while your mind racing for the right answer before you’re even asked a question or say hello. Usually kicked off with “So. I’ll give you three guesses why I wish you were never born. Wrong!”…. To anyone reading this and needs to hear it - it doesn’t matter if “but that’s your mom” BS. Hang up, cut contact, and live your life for you. It’s worth it.
Absolutely! Anyone who treats you with cruelty or abuse needs to be removed from your life. Yes even, and maybe especially, parents!
Load More Replies...Yes..this. I always wondered what rumors my mother had gotten out of siblings or friends and wanted to confront me with. No normal conversations. It was always gossip and bad mouthing. I just got sick of it and stopped calling her and taking her calls. Then she's constantly asked my sister why I never talked to her. Because you're tiring..that's why.
My mom keeps calling me in the middle of class. This is why I've been sent to the nurse 4 times last week (for anxiety attacks that i couldn't calm down from). Then she called for something stupid like "did you get my text" (about like buying tickets for something)
Flinching up and closing everything out when someone yells or gets mad at me or something I did.
Yep, I do this. Shouting at me causes an instant shutdown. Left overs from an abusive marriage, even though I've been divorced for 20 years.
Congrats for getting away, there’s more steps to get fully away but I’m hoping you’re getting the help you need. No one should go through something like that alone.
Load More Replies...Even sudden movement, like someone beside me putting on their seatbelt
They missed a key item: In a serious relationship, needing to press someone until they snap very early on because you have to know what happens when they lose it. You can’t relax until you know what to expect.
Any prolonged stress results in PTSD, not just war or sexual assault. Having someone constantly yelling at you for things that aren’t anybody’s fault, or twisting every little detail so it makes you look like the bad guy when the reality is they are the bad guy, or punishing you for not reading their mind, especially when they change their minds constantly, and often seemingly on purpose after you try really hard to anticipate every single one of their wants and needs, just to make sure you are always wrong.
I think you just answered why my husband sits and stares at the floor when we argue. His father was the type of person that would lose his crap on anyone that showed any weakness around him. It might have been the way my husband learned to cope with it.
Or just when someone yells in general. I spent a lot of my childhood either being yelled at, or listening to my family members fighting, and now conflict makes me incredibly anxious. Even a contentious meeting at work can make me break out in cold sweat.
This from a parent and after therapy wen I hear it I just walk away and go away
I do this. I FEEL the shutters just closing up inside. When I finally told someone (who would screech-owl into the phone to me all day) the response was to *yell more* about how that's not their problem.
Constantly feeling like everyone has a problem with you even if you have no reason to believe such thing. I have great roommates and they're some of my best friends, but at times I feel that they hate me. I know they don't, I have no reason to believe such things, but when I wake up I sometimes believe that my friends absolutely hate me. In response to these emotions I tend fo work very hard to try and get them to "like me", I'll buy them food, or surprise them with things I know they'll like. It eats away at me but even more I tend to believe everyone I meet for the first time hates me. Constantly I need people to tell me they're not mad at me, I need to be reassured, it's a dreadful feeling.
It’s tiring, too. For both you and those you love. But you can’t help it. I know because I can’t help it either. But those who care about you will be there to reassure whenever you need it
I assume everybody thinks the things about me that I think about me
Giving all kind of gifts to everyone just to make up for them to stand you...
Does this originate from bad parenting alone? It's horrible for sure but some are more insecure than others. I don't know...
Maybe more than just 'bad parenting', perhaps more like child abuse (emotional, psychological, verbal, physical). I've gone through life with this exact feeling, that is, of knowing that everyone absolutely hates me. Even if I've just had a really nice time hanging out with friends, I'll come home and have this absolute certain feeling that all those people, and everyone ever, absolutely hates me (I know, it's not exactly rational). I still struggle with these feelings on the regular. My father was emotionally and psychologically abusive.
Load More Replies...I always have the feeling that my friends talk behind my back about how fed up with me they are. I talk too much and hardly let them get a word in edgewise, how could they not hate me?
I had that problem for a long time. I had to train myself to ask people about themselves. I still interrupt with my own thoughts, but less than I used to.
Load More Replies...I'm really sorry... I know one or two people like this and it makes me so uncomfortable if they are trying so hard to please all the time. Makes me feel like I'm a dangerous monster.
I wonder if reassuring them that they're fine could help. Perhaps saying, "I enjoy your company". Being easy-going and patient can help. I know someone who will ask me questions that I can't answer because they're afraid to ask someone else (I think they got put down a lot as a kid). I try to encourage them to ask other people. They've gotten better about that.
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- Not knowing how to take a compliment, because you're waiting for the other shoe to drop like, "you're so smart. So, why aren't you doing better in school?" It's better to deny the compliment.
- Feeling a constant need to placate, mediate, intervene, and concede to avoid arguments. You don't like to see other people fighting or for them to be angry at you, so you do your best to make other people happy, to reduce your anxiety.
- Learning to walk silently, avoid interrupting people, talking softly, and just generally avoid sticking out because you fear that confrontation is the first step to abuse.
- Doing kind things to people, but being unable to say kind things. Love means providing things like food and shelter and clothes, but not gentle words, because you didn't learn them.
- Surrounding yourself with toxic friends, because that's "normal". Your loved ones are supposed to take advantage of you and be mean, if they follow it up with something equally nice after.
- Having an abusive or neglectful significant other because you've learned to associate love with being hurt or neglected. You don't deserve constant love all the time from your partner. People hurt you sometimes, but you still love them. Being uncared for when you need to be comforted isn't the worst thing, when negative attention means feeling worse than being alone.
I'm so sorry oddkiddo. We are here if you want to talk. Big hug for you.
Load More Replies...“Feeling a constant need to placate, mediate, intervene…” I was the one in the house who always tried to get, and keep, my parents and brothers from fighting. Maybe that’s the reason why I got a Masters Degree in Conflict Analysis and Dispute Resolution. Might as well be certified.
Some of these are found in the Four F's of childhood abuse survival: Fight, Flight, Freeze & "Fawn".
I know fight, flight, freeze very well for adults... What is fawn in this context, something like the child fawns over the parent? That doesn't seem right but I can't work it out, very curious, I have a friend that was abused like this by her parents it would be good to understand more
Load More Replies...It means there is no shame to see a counselor and work through what others have conditioned you to expect and perform for their comfort.
Load More Replies...I relate to all of this minus the surrounding myself with toxic friends. I do all of this. I avoid confrontations at all costs. I placate people, apologize incessantly and try to be extra sweet to reduce the tension in people whom I know have emotionally scarred me with screaming and saying some absolutely horrible things to me. The lack of self worth is so true and so is the fact that we stay in relationships where we're running after our partner in constant fear that they'll abandon us. The fear of abandonment has been sown by our parents and we carry it with us throughout life. We're the ones who try to keep our relationships working 90% of the time and when we're less than perfect, those people we value so much simply leave so our parents have in many ways set the template for our lives in how we feel about ourselves, how we give and receive love and what is our perception of love itself. It's easier for other people to tell us to get over it because they never endured that trauma
I do kind things for people, but I can't accept when people do kind things for me. It feels wrong and I don't know how to respond.
I struggled with this too. I learned to think of it in a different way. When you do something kind for someone, it usually makes you feel good, right? Well, when someone does something kind for you, it probably makes them feel good too. So accepting kindness is a way to also make others happy. I had to think of it this way, until I started to believe I was worthy of kindness.
Load More Replies...I’m glad only a few of these I relate to. But the ones I do hit real close to home. The first three are a definite yes, but luckily my life hasn’t been all bad and I still manage to find nice words to say to people, even tho it’s difficult sometimes
Taking any negative thing ever said about to as gospel and completely and immediately dismissing any complement.
I seek the empathy I didn't have, I try not to overshare but it's hard when you're starving, but I do have good boundaries otherwise.
The verbal diarrhea is real. Inappropriate oversharing. Sometimes for empathy and sometimes trying to explain some reaction you've had or action you've taken. Even though, nobody wants to know.
I feel seen by this comment. I hope it gets better for you soon x
Load More Replies...I constantly worry about over-sharing, because even casually talking about my childhood makes it sound like I grew up in a soap opera. I distinctly remember telling an ex a story that I thought was funny, and looking over at him and seeing a look of absolute horror on his face. Apparently, these are not things normal people laugh over. I'm kind of fascinated by people who say they had a happy childhood. It's why I try so, so, so hard to make sure my kids' childhoods are happy and thankfully, I married the right partner for it.
It's easier to tell a random stranger then someone you know. You don't have to look them in the face afterwards.
i over share... and then if people are actually paying attention to what Im saying, I get flustered and rush to get all the words out faster, and stumble and stutter and finish as quick as I can. So they stop. I dont even know why I start in the first place
Empathy is more important than love. If I'm not worthy of at least your understanding, then there's no where to turn.
I think the opposite is my problem. I never had anyone to give empathy too so I tend to really misplace is as an adult. If you're one of my cats, you will be spoiled and adored. I'd rather have a family and friends close like that but I don't.
People pleasing
The people who want you to please them aren't good people, they're takers and users so not matter how much you do, it will never be enough ❤️ but you, you are enough and you deserve not to feel like this ❤️
Load More Replies...Trying to anticipate every possible want or need. Making sure everyone is comfortable, has enough to eat or drink, likes your house that you spent hours scrubbing and dusting and making sure was perfect, and trying overly hard to be the perfect host, when in reality your guests just want you to stop obsessing and hang out with them, because they genuinely like being around you so much.
I tried this in my youth, but finally realized this was a foolish way to live. I'm still very generous, just not a people pleaser anymore.
They said” I have to love you, but I don’t have to like you” I was 7
Is "I always love you but I don't like you right now" similar or different? (Why?)
For my parents it was, I will always love you, no matter what you do, but I won't always like your behavior.
Load More Replies...Argh - I heard this soooo much as a kid, but it was "I love you, but I really don't like you." Such a shi**y thing to say.
i recall being 4 years old, on my knees crying and begging for my mom to tell me why she didn’t like or want me… 41 years later and i will never know
I’m so sorry you have to endure their hatred and emotional abuse.
Load More Replies...Ouch. I was 4 when my sister said I was why her life was "ruined". (She was 9.) It didn't get better fro there.
I grew up knowing my mother didn't like me. I spent most of my adulthood knowing she didn't like me. Interesting though, my dad died 2 days after New Years. But on New Years eve we decided to do what we always did and I bought a small bottle of champagne. At midnight we toasted. She said "Here's to our time together". I just about fell over. At his funeral I had the minister read a passage from a book that talked about losing your spouse. "This can make you harder, or this can make you softer. Who you are going to be is your choice". She chose softer. I was stunned, but so greatful that the woman who had made my life miserable "woke up". We actually became best friends. She liked me and I liked her. We loved each other. Somehow I was able to just let it all go. We talked about stuff. She knew what she'd done.There were medical reasons for her behavior. I haven't forgotten. I managed to forgive. I have peace.
This really hurt me as a child (I was a pain in the a**e as a kid and my Mum sometimes said this), but as I've got older, I really understand it.
Oversharing. Not being able to set boundaries.
Or not setting boundaries in relationships. I learned early to never tell my boyfriend to just be himself. When I was young, that seemed to mean never minding his Ps and Qs again, and becoming the grossest person he could be. You know what I mean. Just think of the state of most frat houses and apartments of guys in their late teens to early twenties. Yeah, that. Gross. Then again, if that’s him being himself, it helped me dodge several bullets by breaking up with them PDQ. (Old slang acronym, means pretty damn quick.)
I didn't even know what boundaries were. Crushed as a kid for the first time. Took me for over 40 years to learn and had a loving friendship first.
I worked with a women that stated she was never disciplined as a child. And she definitely overshared to gain friends. There were several stories she told that I advised her not to repeat. I didn't realize with was a symptom of poor parenting. I mean her mother gave her everything. But never set boundaries.
If anything I'm the opposite and I don't understand why some people are so willing to tell you their life story within give minutes of meeting a total stranger. Of course, since I don't share, people call me bitchy
I can be faulted for this because I always assumed I wasn't the only human being who ever experienced whatever was being discussed. I think this is more about reading the room and acknowledging others have boundaries I shouldn't cross.
Uhhhh....so that's where this comes from? I always kind of thought it was something I picked up when I was a hairstylist. I knew other people didn't do it but I've always said I'm an open book. I think I may have issues with setting boundaries politely...they usually come after I've blown up at someone.
I work in schools and I find often kids will purposely get themselves into trouble to get attention from the staff because they're starved for attention at home
Nah, this is caused by much worse behavior than just parents looking at the phone.
Load More Replies...Im a teacher and i can totally approve this. The most troubled students are always the ones that have problems in their family.
I had a kid like this in my class when I worked as a substitute. She would even provoke other children to get attention, ANY kind of attention. Then when they reacted badly, she'd cry. She didn't understand her own behavior since she was only seven.
Load More Replies...Because even negative attention is better than no attention at all. Odd logic, but it happens more than you think.
I absolutely did this as a child... just enough trouble to be sent to the principals office, so I could talk with her (she was really nice). It stopped when My father told me to straighten up or I was "cruisin' for a bruisin'", a threat I didn't take lightly. I look at this now and see how F*caked up it was....but back then it was absolutely normal.
Retired teacher. Completely agree. Students who get in trouble in school were not taught boundaries, were bored GT kids, or were kids who were so starved for affection any attention at all negative or positive was welcome and sought out. Any interaction at all.
I used to work with kids with psychiatric and severe behavioral issues. I found it hard to comprehend doing something that they knew would get them into trouble just to get attention. I tried so hard to let them know & hope to believe that they didn't have to do that here. We want the best for them and give them everything that is. They're safe now. I remember one little guy. I called him the Artful Doger. He had come to us after he set his mother's drapes on fire. If my mother had done it to me, I'd have set her drapes on fire too. They would get their own room the first month for evaluation. Somehow got some scissors. Cut great big holes in the drapes. "If I wreck the drapes, will you send me away too?" was his question. No, we won't. You're safe.
I'd love to know who got my school records! Always got straight A/B's, but my conduct/effort scores were the worst. Guess who got punished.
I had a friend in high school like that. She was always kind of loud and over-the-top and a lot of people made fun of her for it. None of them realized the reason she was always seeking attention was that she had a sh*tty home life.
Insecure attachment (both avoidant and anxious). Love and/or sex addiction.
Sex addiction when I was younger. Hated myself so much that I thought the only things I had going for me were a pretty face and a body I was willing to give away.
Insecure attachment, but yearning for real love, which I never got, because I was trying to find it from cold and unempathic people.
Yeah, guilty of this one. How do you express love when you've never been taught how to love? At least sex gave me the impression of intimacy.
Overly defensive about everything. Always trying to defend yourself for things you know are in the right. I.e (My room is already clean why are you even yelling, or stop telling me to do things I already do) I only know this because I’m always put in situations like this and allow other people’s words to have power over me
Then they get even madder because you’re defending yourself by explaining what you’ve already finished doing. Yeah, I know this one all too well.
YESSS! Life feels like a perpetual court room drama as if you're a criminal facing the prosecution at all times. It's beyond exhausting.
My 2nd husband was guilty of this, and no matter how I tried, he wouldn't or couldn't break this habit. His child abuse trauma and mine just didn't mesh.
Another trait where it's often mistaken for "She's trying to show off". I've learned to *PRE* defend myself before I say things to assure others I'm not just pulling this sh-- out of my rear end.... eg: "I remember my chemistry prof showing us why ice is 'larger' than the water put in the freezer. The PROF drew this diagram" then I will proceed to talk about it... because all too often growing up, Eeeeverything I said was "utter garbage, from that idiot child"... which would open the door for someone (classmate, siblling, coworker) to take my words, use them as their own, and be congratulated for being 'so smart'. So I pre-defend... and now I'm treated like sh-- because others think I'm being pretentious.
Please, for the love of God, laugh at my [lame] jokes and listen to me talk in circles for way too long while I try to kid myself I’m making an interesting point
When I hang my hat on that, I apologize for getting my horn stuck. Ta da!
As an opposite, I barely ever talk just to avoid saying something stupid, which would haunt me for the rest of my life...
feeling the need to create a false, altered version of events to tell to people, and then realizing that the actual version of events was A) perfectly acceptable and B) makes more sense than the fabricated version of events. so f***ed up
Telling truth can get you into trouble. You don't do it. Abused people become excellent story-tellers.
*looks at the sheer amount of books I'm writing* heh...oops.
Load More Replies...Never tell anything to anyone. They could use it against you in the future.
I know a lady that all her stories match her need to be on top : if you went to a country, she went there too. If you are sick, she is more sick, if happened something to you, it happened to her too but bigger, better, deeper or happier.
A friend has an in-law similar to that - she wins the envy event of the suffering Olympics: "You got a root canal? You're so lucky - you can afford to go to the dentist!" She'd probably tell a refugee "You were in a re-education camp in your old country? You're so lucky you got to live in there! I can't afford to even visit."
Load More Replies...I know another person that tells stories like happened to her when in reality she read it somewhere or someone told her about. Sometimes she tells ME stories that actually happened to ME.
Always had to have a cover story readily available. You also learn to look like you believe your lies, so you could be convincing during the inevitable third degree interrogation you’d have to face when you got home. Maybe this is the kind of situation where some great actors first honed their craft.
The constant white lies. A'la it was cold you're not supposed to eat ice cream, you do it anyway and then lie about where the money went (because they know how much money you're supposed to having and might send you to buy something with exactly the amount you're still supposed to have). Or the other extreme, never tell it was your fault, even if it was or even if it was something really minor. Because if something or someone else screwed things up for you it is bad but kind of tolerable, but if it was your fault it is oh so very intolerable. Even over the tiniest tiniest things.
ooooooh i'm great at this. i can lie like the best of them if i feel it necessary. honesty gets you in trouble with parents
Yeah, my cousin did this until her late 20s. Horrible abandonment issues.
Oh my goodness! That is definitely my co-worker. and in every story she comes out on top. She worked the hardest. The longest. She comes to work sick to show everyone that 1. she is sick and 2. that no matter what, she saved the day all while sick, smh. She had the best this and that without directly saying it. Someone else always tells her this and she is eager to go on and on about it.
Having a parental unit tell you multiple times that they "never wanted kids"
having them yell at you for not understanding how to do math problems when you're just learning them.
Having them talk more to the father of your child than they do to you.
Praising themselves for your accomplishments that have nothing to do with them and any hobby or activity is because "you take after me".
Ugh. The "you take after me" thing...my biological mother does that and it drives me CRAZY.
Mine is so full of herself, that she assigns positive characteristics that my daughter has...to HER....skipping over ME and her father as if we dont exist! "Oh, you have such long, pretty legs, just like your grandma!"..."You are so smart!! You get that from me!"...it is SO annoying.
Load More Replies...Having them tell you they only had you to avoid getting divorced. My mother never told my father she got got him drunk when she knew she’d get pregnant with me, because he wanted to leave and she had no clue how to get a job and support us kids, even with him sending her child support, so was scared shitless at the thought. Thing is, she was still very pretty and looked 10 years younger than she was, so she wouldn’t have been a divorcee very long. I thought about that recently. I realized that if she hadn’t schemed and got pregnant with me, she would’ve maybe married a truly nice normal man, and us kids (if it included me) could’ve had a shot at having a wonderful fun stepfather instead of our miserable asshole of a biological father. And maybe she would’ve finally dropped all the coping mechanisms she’d had to develop over the years from being married to him, and go back to the normal woman she had been when they were dating, engaged, and first married, before his shitshow started.
"having them yell at you for not understanding how to do math problems when you're just learning them." Ah yes, fun times. Did wonders for my maths anxiety, as you can well imagine.
Oh, this one is too close to hoem, minus "never anted kids". Wanted kids other than us, yes.
I’m sorry you have to go through that.
Load More Replies...My mom wasn't abusive, but she never acknowledged my accomplishments. Her friends were always bragging about their children, but my mom never say anything or downplayed my achievements. She did it because she thought praising her own children is self-praise. Like I'm not different person than her.
When you marry into a family and you completely shut down at family gatherings because you don’t know how to insert yourself into conversations because this family actually loves each other. And all you know is that you were told that no one wants to hear about you and they only want to talk about themselves so you have to be the giving person but then feeling sad that no one took the time to ask you about yourself. Feeling bad for feeling sad or lonely but thinking you also deserve it because you must be selfish if you feel negatively about people just not asking about you even though you put so much effort into talking about them that you know good and well they likely never had the opportunity. Censoring your own art because you had to do that where you grew up, but if someone stumbles upon your art and praises you for it you freeze up because you have no idea what to do about it.
You know, my ex sil had (was) borderline ... she couldn't handle being with our loud and goofy family. She would sometimes hide in the loo the poor girl. Once she got to know us we heard some stories that even today still piss me off.
"Borderline" is the name psychologists made up for clients they didn't like because they didn't understand them or help them. Dr Judith Herman Lewis, in her classic "Trauma and Recovery," says that these people actually suffered from Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD).
Load More Replies...That level of comfort around family was always so foreign a concept to me. Until I finally got to have my own, and do my best to be the exact opposite of my parents. What an aha moment.
I do this with my own family, and dread meeting up with other family members as I really don't know what to say to them. As for meeting others outside my family well this just fills me with so much dread.
been told my life is boring and they didnt want to hear about it, also been screamed at after i HAD to drop out of highschool cause of my seizures (caused by stress ironically) thanksgivings with my biological familys are stressful this year im having thanksgiving with my BF's family and im anxious but i know no one will yell at me.
Knew a person from a huge extended family that actually loved/liked one another. First time I was included, I sat there with my mouth open in wonderment. This was as unreal to me as the Marvel Universe is. When I think of the holidays, I think of this family, not mine.
Yup.. no one wants to hear about me. I've been TOLD that verbatim: "Wow, so that's ALL about you. You know no one wants to hear about you, right?" - followed by chuckles and laughs around the table... so now... I ask people about themselves... and if no one asks me anything about me... I 'spare them' having to know... since no one wants to hear it.
Working extra hard to get your parents attention (getting good grades, making their favorite food, etc) just to get acknowledge that you too are part of the family and you are also important as well.
I was doing this till last year. And then at last i accepted that whatever i do they would never appreciate.. then i relieved, yes really :) Because just after that i started to focus on myself, my own beauties and abilities
I was a good student in school while I was growing up, but my weakest subject was Math. Not the basics, but the higher math classes, especially Geometry. So I had to work extra hard in those classes to get a B or C. An A was asking for a miracle. I remember coming home with a report card that had an A in six classes and a B in Geometry, which I busted my ass for, and was even prouder of than the A in my easier classes. Showed it to my father. Now, a normal dad would be just busting with pride at a report card like that. Not mine. He zeroed in on that B like it was written in neon and ten feet tall. He said (insert foul language) I ruined a perfect report card by only getting a B in Geometry. Then he threw it back at me. He always posed as some kind of genius Mensa member. It was a lie. Our paternal grandmother showed us kids our father’s report cards. He was never more than a C student. It was his sister who was the real brains of the family, and that just ragged his ass.
Thank goodness for your dad's dad debunking the brilliance. My mother made herself sound brilliant as a child. It's possible she was, but trauma and illness during her teen years may have changed that. I had to explain to her that most children are not as perceptive and observant as she might have been then. Her not realizing that may explain a few incidents in my own childhood where she thought I should know better and got upset at me.
Load More Replies...I just gave up doing this and accepted that I will never be apart of their family.
All my friends are constantly talking about their grades, and how they got 3 A’s and got a reward. I got straight A’s all year last year, and I got nothing. It was shrugged off as if there were no grades
Within days of high school graduation, I was gone. I even married a man of science to win their approval. Eventually, I grew tired of trying to get my family to accept me. My mother has a large, framed, professionally shot family photograph prominently displayed. I'm not in it.
or it could be the opposite... they tell you to do stuff saying it's for the good of the family and it'll be your benefit as well as a part of the family, but it's a stupid, trivial and/or futile pursuit such as helping extend a room by 3 feet and add in a door and concrete flooring for a so called rented guest room only used by non visiting family on maybe 3 or 4 occasios ever since the 7 plus years since it was constructed to extend the house... still very much in the red area of debt if counted as a business.
Dr Ramani, who has a YouTube channel about narcissism, calls these people "handmaids."
And after knocking yourself out for them you don't even get a thank you. So you stop and then get criticized for not doing what you didn't get acknowledgement for.
No activities or visits
Being lonely is horrible. We should be more aware of people around us. The neighbour alone needs a visit and if elderly a visit and a quick check to see if he/she is ok. I live 5 hours drive from my elderly mum and I can't always visit. She is lucky to have friends and good neighbours who pop by for a cuppa or phone for chit chat. They pick her up for shopping. I am so grateful for these kind people.
U must live ina dystopian society. The goal of life is to be able to live in solitude. All the great beings go for solitude. In my culture it's told to leave home when ur old & die at a place away from family members & familiar places , so u don't die in attachments. It's the best way to die if ur a a average being . The great ones of course can leave at will. U people have created so many attachments , that u can't even breathe, from things that exist & which don't. The old ones have left because humans r not willing to change How can u people do this to urself. Live in cages of ur own making. So pathetic & weak.
Load More Replies...I grew up with no interests or activities or friends. So now as an adult I still don't. Which means I dont know how to have any hobbies or to do self care. I just watch too much tv instead. I wish I had something....... Anything.
Start with what interests you on tv. Look into the subject in real life. Try them. A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step- old adage.
Load More Replies...I just have to post this because I blubbed about my mum: If you know a younger person who seems lonely, do something. They need you too.
Same here as well. Thank you for bringing attention to the younger people too - they do need us!
Load More Replies...My biological mothers husband- I refuse to call him my stepfather- would purposely keep me home during important times of the year. He would come in Christmas morning and tell me I was not going to my aunt houses to open gifts. It was some sick game of his to see me excited about anything (volleyball, book club, bowling) and take it away.
I sometimes wonder if I died how long would it take for anyone to notice I wasn't around and come check on me.
THIS. Even immediate family did not come to the house. NO ONE CAN KNOW. Not like the house stood up and said, or we did, but my dad needed that control, so....
Rarely was I allowed to bring anyone home. On the rare occasions I risked this, I had to endure listening to my mother degrade my friend on every little perceived infraction after they went home. Just not worth it.
Compulsively apologizing for minor/non-existent transgressions, just so people don't lash out at you. Perceiving every compliment as back handed. Eating as quickly as possible because you know someone is gonna throw your plate on the floor and force you to finish eating it.
Abuse and neglect as well. People should take a test before being allowed to become a parent.
Yes. A whole long battery of tests, of all kinds.
Load More Replies...The other day my friend called me pretty and i expected her to follow up with "When you wear makeup" Something my mom would always tell me because she wanted me to be girly.
Force-feeding isn't fun even if the food didn't get thrown to the floor.
Or having your mother spit on your food then making you eat it.
Load More Replies...Instantly distrusting someone when they give you a compliment for something that "doesn't deserve one" because it is not EXTRAORDINARY. Because, who would compliment you on something like that unless it was because they are trying to manipulate you?
As the oldest, not only did I apologize for my minor transgressions, but my younger siblings' as well. They were my responsibility to guide.
could also be eating fast to avoid getting called to help with a task invented on the spot just because they see you and suddenly feel to have you do something "to be helpful around the place" or because such a task is already lined up to be done or continued.
I frequently tell my mum "thank you for putting up with me" and I can tell it kills her inside to hear me say that. She looks sad everytime I tell her that. I didn't live with her till a year ago up till than I lived with my dad who acted as if I was the worse person in the entire world. I know I shouldn't have to tell her thanks for staying when others left me but I feel like I should.
Stealing - my sister was always told she was 'too expensive' to take care of now she literally will steal even if she has money in her pocket.
the too expensive thing...a friend of mine was suicidal and was in and out of therapy as a teenager, but every time their parents put them back in therapy, the parents would comment and complain about how expensive it was even though they could DEFINITELY afford it. Thus, a month later my friend was out of therapy again.
Assuming your friend is still in their teens and living with their parents: Is it the parents cutting your friend off or is it your friend voluntarily quitting because the parents complain? If it's your friend, they might want to discuss their feeling about this to the therapist. It's an awkward topic, but the feelings around it are important.
Load More Replies...My dad cheated on my mom when I was 30. They were separated for 10 years before they finally signed divorce papers. However, when it first happened he wrote me this long letter for my birthday...that was not actually my birthday...basically saying that because "I cost so much that it's my fault." Um. I had a really good job. Yes, I went back to school in my late 20's and they paid for school as well as my living expenses the whole time but that was because they wanted me to focus on school. I'd been a hairstylist, it's not like I would have been working a minimum wage job. I wouldn't have actually made it through school with a job. I have a degree in Fashion Design and honestly did about 40 hours of homework a week. My neighbor at the time was getting his masters and I did more homework than he did. Anyway, yeah. My dad blamed me for his cheating.
this is actually victim-blaming, please don't do this, I hope you get better <3
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All my childhood memories are with the cleaner and her husband
I was the cleaner for a while. I had lost control of my life and was being dominated by an abusive husband. The only thing I felt that I had any remaining control over waa how clean my house was. I learned later that it was a way to cope. Thank God I didn't have children at the time.
Unfortunate, but still far better than some of us on here. Hope your memories suffice.
Grandpa. He loved me but when he passed, I realized I hadn't seen him in years while I had lovely memories of sitting on his lap and chatting and reading stories. I wasn't allowed to attend his funeral even tho I was probably 15. He came to me in a dream and told me he would always watch out for me. It caused me to question my family (rhetorically). My mother always kept us isolated from the world, no close neighbors, no kids to play with, no friends. I still wonder if there was something wrong with me; or her. I have always seen grandpa's hand in my life but it wasn't until when my mother passed that I began changing into the person I feel I should have always been.
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Acting like a bully as a grown adult
Honestly Fxnglhl? You're ahead of the game if you have that self awareness at 13. So... you can see that in yourself. Next time, try to be aware when it's actually happening. And if you are able to, stop. Maybe even let the person know. "Dude. I'm sorry. That was a crazy reaction and I apologize. You'll be amazed at what some accountability and an apology will do. And then the next time, maybe you can stop yourself before you go there. I think if, at 13, you really make an effort. And it will be AN EFFORT, you will be able to change this about yourself. No matter what family you come from. I'm 50 years old, and just went to a funeral this weekend where I ran into my 7th grade bullies. And I spent a good chunk of time avoiding them because now, I'm afraid I would let loose and it wouldn't be pretty. I harbour some pretty negative feelings toward them. You don't want to be THAT person. You can do it. I'm super proud that you have the insight you do. You've got this!!!!! <3
Load More Replies...Thankfully, this isn't one of my many problems. I was a damn good boss, co-worker, and neighbor. Oh, it feels good I can end this stream on a positive note. Little steps...
No, I promised myself I wouldn’t do that, ever. I prefer to be authoritative, not authoritarian, when dealing with people. There’s an old saying, “you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar”. Well, you can get people to follow your house rules by being kind and reasonable about them and allowing them to have some input about them, instead of draconian and “my way or the highway”. Kind and reasonable will get you people who are happy to follow your rules. Draconian get you people who lie, keep secrets, hide stuff, and sneak around behind your back, not because they want to follow your rules, but for no other reason than to avoid your OTT harsh punishments—-and they’ll end up resenting you to the point of leaving as soon as they can, and cutting you completely out of their lives forever. Because you’re a f*****g bully.
Death penalty for the mean kid in Grade Three? Patience, my love, it'll happen in a few decades. Try to remember and outlive them at the old folks home if you want to indulge in a little schadenfreude. It will be deeply satisfying to utter those last words, "Joey, you bastard, see you in Hell!"
Load More Replies...Hugs to all the pandas who found themselves on this list in some form or another ❤
Hugs to all the BPs here that suffer from bad families (parents, spouses etc) or bad mental health.
Some of these resonate with me, but I have to say they aren't all necessarily indicative of an unhappy childhood. I was loved, encouraged, respected as an individual who had their own thoughts and feelings. There was no abuse or neglect, my sister and I were both treated equally. Unfortunately I c*apped out on the genetic lottery because mental illness and personality disorders run on my dad's side of the family (he is absolutely ok, it's like it affects at least one person from each generation going back about 120 years. We can actually trace a path through the family tree based on anecdotal evidence). Sometimes you can have all the love in the world and still feel alone.
Hi Sian. Aspergic, dad's side. Depression? could be either side. Dad's 90, I love him with all my heart and more, why? Because he's my dad, but also, he's gone through everything I’m going through now. My dad had no support for autism, neither have I (Caring for Mental health has a long way to go in the UK, it's appalling). I'm proud of him having to deal with a condition that is challenging. My dad's 90, he is unaware that he has autism, I won't approach this subject with him, as it'd be callous of me to try at this stage of his life.
Load More Replies...I’ve always been a disappointment. Affected me then, affects me now. Never encouraged by my parents nor any teachers. Don’t get me wrong my parents love(d) me, I never wanted for anything. It’s just that, I was never given any positive feedback from anyone whilst growing up. Maybe, if I just received the right encouragement, I could've done more with my life.
Steve, you are not a disappointment. I think you are lovely, really.
Load More Replies...Maybe this is to general, but I think that being suspicious of someones motives when they do something kind towards you, and feeling like you "owe" something if/when its genuine. And feeling like you should never need help with anything,no matter how much you struggle with it.
These broke my heart. Some people don't deserve to have kids, because everyone matters and everyone deserves to be loved. Kids have such pure hearts, and it's horrible some have to be exposed to this from a parent. Posts like this remind me to be grateful, and not take my upbringing for granted.
What a contrast between this posting and the one about spoiled, entitled kids. There is a happy medium between coddling your crotch goblins and tyrannizing them.
Load More Replies...Give yourself permission to grieve over the wrongs done to you. (Best advice I got in therapy.) Don't punish yourself for reactions you were taught to have before you could speak. Like any other habit, you can break it, with time. You may never 100% do so, but the victory is in the trying, IMO.
I relate with most of these, but always felt that my parents are kind people, although they can get angry over nothing and make me feel a lil guilty. 🤔
Being a parent is hard, and despite love and care for the children, you can never be sure what a throwaway comment or trivial behaviour can cause, unless you're a trained psychologist, I guess. If you feel loved, forgive your parents the little mistakes they might be making. They're just human. I'm sure my parents loved me, but I still have some issues that I think I can trace back to their behaviour. I'm sure they never wanted to influence me in a bad way. (Of course, if shitty behaviour is deliberate, forgiveness is definitely not required.)
Load More Replies...Hugs to all the pandas who found themselves on this list in some form or another ❤
Hugs to all the BPs here that suffer from bad families (parents, spouses etc) or bad mental health.
Some of these resonate with me, but I have to say they aren't all necessarily indicative of an unhappy childhood. I was loved, encouraged, respected as an individual who had their own thoughts and feelings. There was no abuse or neglect, my sister and I were both treated equally. Unfortunately I c*apped out on the genetic lottery because mental illness and personality disorders run on my dad's side of the family (he is absolutely ok, it's like it affects at least one person from each generation going back about 120 years. We can actually trace a path through the family tree based on anecdotal evidence). Sometimes you can have all the love in the world and still feel alone.
Hi Sian. Aspergic, dad's side. Depression? could be either side. Dad's 90, I love him with all my heart and more, why? Because he's my dad, but also, he's gone through everything I’m going through now. My dad had no support for autism, neither have I (Caring for Mental health has a long way to go in the UK, it's appalling). I'm proud of him having to deal with a condition that is challenging. My dad's 90, he is unaware that he has autism, I won't approach this subject with him, as it'd be callous of me to try at this stage of his life.
Load More Replies...I’ve always been a disappointment. Affected me then, affects me now. Never encouraged by my parents nor any teachers. Don’t get me wrong my parents love(d) me, I never wanted for anything. It’s just that, I was never given any positive feedback from anyone whilst growing up. Maybe, if I just received the right encouragement, I could've done more with my life.
Steve, you are not a disappointment. I think you are lovely, really.
Load More Replies...Maybe this is to general, but I think that being suspicious of someones motives when they do something kind towards you, and feeling like you "owe" something if/when its genuine. And feeling like you should never need help with anything,no matter how much you struggle with it.
These broke my heart. Some people don't deserve to have kids, because everyone matters and everyone deserves to be loved. Kids have such pure hearts, and it's horrible some have to be exposed to this from a parent. Posts like this remind me to be grateful, and not take my upbringing for granted.
What a contrast between this posting and the one about spoiled, entitled kids. There is a happy medium between coddling your crotch goblins and tyrannizing them.
Load More Replies...Give yourself permission to grieve over the wrongs done to you. (Best advice I got in therapy.) Don't punish yourself for reactions you were taught to have before you could speak. Like any other habit, you can break it, with time. You may never 100% do so, but the victory is in the trying, IMO.
I relate with most of these, but always felt that my parents are kind people, although they can get angry over nothing and make me feel a lil guilty. 🤔
Being a parent is hard, and despite love and care for the children, you can never be sure what a throwaway comment or trivial behaviour can cause, unless you're a trained psychologist, I guess. If you feel loved, forgive your parents the little mistakes they might be making. They're just human. I'm sure my parents loved me, but I still have some issues that I think I can trace back to their behaviour. I'm sure they never wanted to influence me in a bad way. (Of course, if shitty behaviour is deliberate, forgiveness is definitely not required.)
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