Social norms are the unwritten rules that determine what is acceptable within a community and what is not.
Usually, they are those things we all just "know" to be true, and that are either rewarded or punished by members of that community.
From the way we form a line at a grocery store to the way we look for a partner, they govern both the small details of daily interactions and the major decisions that shape our lives.
But not everyone accepts these customs without question. In fact, some people feel certain conventions are baffling or even absurd. Recently, a post on r/AskReddit invited platform users to share a common social norm that they secretly find ridiculous, and the responses sparked an interesting discussion. Continue scrolling to check out the most popular entries.
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Gender reveals. What a grandiose waste of money, time and resources.
Seaworthiness14 replied:
And really, most people don’t care about the sex of somebody’s baby; they just want it to be healthy.
And baby wipes, onesies, crib sheets, sleepers, bottles, etc
Load More Replies...You know some people just use it as an excuse to get their friends and family in one place for a get together. It is no other real reason than that. Of course most people are happy to have a healthy baby but thanks to the work life balance that most people have they don't just get together anymore so this is a reason. Also if people want to have a party and spend their own time and money on a gender reveal we should just leave them alone. They are celebrating a life soon to be born in their own way, if no one is doing something wrong or illegal then whose business is it. So much darkness in the world then we see pictures of gender reveal parties and everyone is smiling, happy and celebrating. Are we all so miserable in our own lives that we can judge someone for enjoying the little bit of joy they have.
I do agree with you on this one. As long as it's not a damaging party like starts a wildfire or a giant release of balloons, or dying animals colors, I'm fine with it. I don't understand them and think they're dumb, but I also don't like football, or nascar, or a million other things. Doesn't mean people can't enjoy them just cuz I don't.
Load More Replies...Upon finding out that we were going to be parents I asked my then wife if we couldn’t find out the gender, she agreed, the nursery got painted in neutral colours, clothing was all gender-non-specific. We decided that there are too few really joyful surprises left in this world, this was our chance to have a great surprise that was only ours AND to be blessed with a baby. Anyway, the name Dylan shall remain unused and Erin is now a happy 14 year old. 😀
Let's be real. A 'gender reveal' party has nothing to do with gender. It is simply saying 'My baby has/hasn't a pènis.'
Not even just that, is a 'Look at me, I have news nobody cares but still gonna make a party out of it and make it all about myself cause i'm so special'
Load More Replies...There was a gender reveal party with fireworks in my area that burned 20,000 acres, destroyed 5 homes, and killed a firefighter. The father went to jail for a year and the couple are on the hook for nearly 2 million dollars in restitution. All that when they could have just bought a cake with pink or blue filling.
Load More Replies...When you say gender reveal everyone is happy when you says party over my child's genitals somehow you are disgusting
"Look at me & this thing that I did-- so that people I don't know on the internet will validate me--regardless of the expense, consequences, or damage to the environment!--and it's OK if it all goes wrong/I get arrested/ I ruin someone's property because I can follow up with an AITA video for more attention!" yaAAY!!!🙌🥳🥂🎊🎉🎆🪅 /s
Isn't this an American thing ? We don't have those in my country, I only see American do that (honest question)
Wait till someone comes up with 'Conception Party' or "We're trying Party" or 'The Condom Broke Party'.
To learn more about social norms, we contacted Dr. Joseph E. Davis, research professor of sociology and chair of the Picturing the Human working group at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture at the University of Virginia.
"Social norms ... make society possible," he told Bored Panda. "We couldn’t have social interaction and order without them. We would simply have no idea what to do in each other’s presence."
"As the sociologist Robert Nisbet wrote in The Social Bond, they 'are solutions to recurring problems or situations.' Think of something as simple as turn-taking in a conversation. That’s a norm, and it’s not hard to see how, without it, a conversation would be impossible. Norms are also enforced by social sanctions, either positive, in the form of rewards for compliance, or negative, in the form of penalties for violations, such as disapproval, ridicule, or avoidance. We are likely to get annoyed by the person who talks too much, talks over us, or doesn’t say anything when we are trying to have a conversation."
Over the top weddings. What an incredible waste of money.
merc0526 replied:
It seems absolutely wild to me that people who may not have enough for a house deposit are okay with spending lots of money on a wedding. Hell, even if I owned a house, I’d rather spend the wedding money on traveling around the world.
This is a myth. For first marriages its about 32% after 20 years
Load More Replies...I'm fine with an opulent wedding if it's within your means. If that's what you want & it's affordable, not my business.🤷♀️ It's the ones that plan a lavish wedding and expect everyone else to pay for it that really get me.
Our wedding was $600 (including her dress and my tux)... it will be 25 years in two weeks.
My wedding was really inexpensive. I found a prom dress for about $100, my sister, maid of honor wore a dress she had worn at a previous wedding. Only immediate family, and we just went to a restaurant and each individual ordered what they wanted off of the regular menu. And they let us bring in a small wedding cake that my mom made.
Load More Replies...I don't like it when people have extravagant show off weddings that cost tens of thousands so they can show off on social media and then demand money instead of a gift.
I'd so much rather have an amazing honeymoon than spend the same amount of money on a wedding that I probably would barely remember anyway. Most married people I know say they have little memory of their own wedding because they were so busy and, by the end, exhausted.
I've noticed that most of the young people getting married only want the big fancy wedding when they are not the ones paying for it.
Job adverts posted without information on the salary. Are we really pretending as if the money isn’t a big factor as to why I’m applying?
It's like the only one LMFAO 🤣 I love my job but I go because I need to pay bills so even though I like it I'm there because of the money that's the whole point of a job if I wasn't there for the money it would be called a hobby people are silly
Load More Replies..."Why do you want to work here? " For money. I want to exercise a skill, and then you pay me.
A lot of those are ghost jobs. The valid postings just want to rip you off by saying "based on your experience..." and pay you less than they can truly afford.
Naturally, the employees they most want to attract are those who aren't assertive about pay.
Also posting jobs when they are not really hiring. Or not even acknowledging that they even looked at your resume.
This is more of a problem than personal spending on weddings and gender reveals that don't affect other people.
Author of Chemically Imbalanced: Everyday Suffering, Medication, and Our Troubled Quest for Self-Mastery, Davis said it's hard to talk about which people are better or worse at following social norms in a vacuum, but "some part certainly has to do with one’s upbringing. There are norms, like carrying yourself with ‘ease,’ that are better performed if you grow up learning how to do it. Or think of what used to be taught in ‘finishing school.’ Or how you are likely to perform better in school if your house is full of books."
"But many factors play a role in conformity—the rewards available, coercion, different personalities, role models, the nature of the social group, and so on. And we should remember that all normal social members adapt their behavior to others and even the ‘deviants’ are conforming to some consensus—delinquent group, gang, cliques—though it might be at odds with the dominant culture."
Scheduling workplace events outside of normal working hours. If you want me to attend, pay me for it.
Any event outside of working hours is optional. If you don't want to go, don't go.
not attending holds such a stigma that it can cost you promotions, projects, and pay raises in my industry. it's really disrespectful of people's time and personal lives. it punishes people with responsibilities outside of work. it doesn't feel optional when it negatively impacts your ability to support yourself.
Load More Replies...I spend enough time with those people, I don't want to have to do outside of work time.
Probably because of my company but when the holiday party is at a very expensive restaurant with an open bar that to is like getting paid. A lot more per hour.
I feel it depends on the company and the frequency. An IT company did them right IMO. They did not happen often and nobody other than perhaps management was expected to attend. An example is a BBQ at a park on a Saturday. Food, pleasant weather, some silly games like those padded Sumo wrestler suits. I can't recall if that one included prizes, some did. I honestly had a good time and we could not have done it during our normal work time or in the evening after we closed.
At a religious school, they switched from a Christmas party at the school (with the school paying for everything) to one at a restaurant (you pay for yourself). This change in the meaning of Christmas occurred when they brought in a theology teacher as principal.
Have only worked for two companies where I actually enjoyed work 'Do's. The rest are awkward and dull. It's bad enough I have to be nice to some of my colleagues during office hours - having to do it in my own time...not a fan. But if you make an excuse not to go you're seen as not being a team player and disregarded so you have to grit your teeth and bear it.
I hate the out of hours team building events that my workplace holds. Firstly my work colleagues are not the kind of people I wish to socialise with. Secondly, as well as working full time, I am also full time carer for a member of my family who has numerous medical issues. This takes up almost all of my spare time. I've explained this numerous times but it's like they don't believe me and then make me feel bad when I can't attend.
Well, partly. We once a year have an event where everyone from different European countries is flown to Berlin, and we have a big company event. I mean. All is payed for. But you cannot put an 8 hour work day sticker on it. But I get it - it all depends.
Working at a university has some unspoken benefits. Our birthday parties are usually during working hours, and it's great way to relax and recharge. Sometimes there's even free booze.
Liquor at a College during work??? How in the world do you get by with that?
Load More Replies... Humoring rude or pushy people.
If a stranger asks me weird questions or tries persistently to make small talk, I'm forced to make at least a couple of polite, inconspicuous attempts to extricate myself without calling them out, just to save THEIR face.
Dude, I nodded, smiled blandly, and turned away *twice*. I put earphones in. Why are you still trying to make eye contact and force me to take them out again by talking at me? Elderly people are very good at this. Sometimes better than pushy men.
I want permission to directly tell someone, "I don't want to talk" straight away, without being labeled rude and b****y.
I wish I could upvote this several times! This is so closely connected with the outrageous behaviour of bullies being tolerated endlessly, while the people who are consistently kind and polite are judged much more harshly for the tiniest imperfection or misstep. (This happens in all areas of live; family, school, work, POLITICS (cough cough US cough).
"while the people who are consistently kind and polite are judged much more harshly for the tiniest imperfection or misstep." Felt this. Thank you!
Load More Replies...I know were not responsible for everyone but sometimes such people are determined to make contact with a stranger because they are desperately isolated. One day that could be you. Just a thought.
Yes. Especially seniors. Many can go weeks without any real connection. But it happens to people from every walk of life. Myself included.
Load More Replies...I just say "I'm sorry, I don't feel like talking." Full stop. Growing up with autism, I was always made to feel this is rude, but you know what? Why isn't it rude to force me to engage? If I feel like having a conversation, I certainly will. I'm pretty social, and enjoy people, but I'm at the point in my life (late 30s), where if I beg off the conversation and you insist, that's on you. Be prepared to be ignored.
"I'm sorry, I don't feel like talking to you" Full stop."
Load More Replies...The only thing with old people, though, is that sometimes they're just *really* lonely. If a senior is making a concerted effort to talk to me, I always engage. It may be the only social connection they've had in weeks. It breaks my heart to think about.
I just literally stopped making eye contact with my nosy neighbor and she acts like I killed her cat.
The part about trying persistently to make small talk reminded me of many years ago when I was having my truck washed. It was at a former gas station, where they would take your vehicle into the service bay to wash it. I had looked forward to sitting on the bench in front of the office and reading my book while they washed it, but some guy got there right after I did and insisted on talking while I was obviously trying to read. Finally they brought my truck out, and he said "Man, is my truck going to look that good when they're finished with it?" As I was getting up and walking to my truck about to leave I replied "No. Yours is a Dodge."
The only good part about growing up in Norway. No one talks to strangers. Sure, you’ll give people a smile and a nod if they talk to you out of common courtesy, but if they keep pushing when you turn around they are the rude one.
I have to deal with this constantly. I'm wearing headphones, the type that go over your ears, they're big, you can't miss them!! Yet, they stand there talking to me!!
According to Davis, there is no one answer to the question of when social norms die out, either. However, “technological changes are often implicated in the attenuation of shared customs and forms of life.”
“The great sociologist Emile Durkheim, for example, witnessing the effects of the Industrial Revolution, found that the rapid urbanization undermined the guidance of established norms and legal/moral guardrails that people living in rural areas had previously relied upon. It left them feeling unmoored and dissatisfied, a state of being he called ‘anomie,’ or normless.”
“When the ‘recurring problems or situations’ change, to use Nisbet’s words again, we need different ‘solutions.’ As we live in a time of profound and relentless social change, so many of the ‘folkways’ and moral norms of earlier times, in everything from etiquette to sexuality, have been heavily revised or eliminated,” Davis explained.
Not just letting kids be weird. My son used to wear the weirdest stuff and if we were going out I’d be like ‘Go for it! You’re six, live it up!” I do believe in making them behave, though.
The best kids in the grocery store are the ones in a dress over jeans and a unicorn hoodie.
oh no..the little one with a tutu over her pajamas, a crown, uggs and a fairy wand. ;o)
Load More Replies...If you let your kid pick his/her own clothes, you'll save a ton of money
Life is relatively short, you can choose how you approach it, there’s plenty of opportunity to be staid or dour in the later years. Wear those shoes, buy that dress, put together an outfit that brings joy to YOU, paint that picture, play that instrument, go to that gig, do the things that bring happiness and love into your heart. Encourage your children to do the same, they live in a world full of rules and regulations, so long as they are safe and loved then let them express their inner thoughts and feelings.
I wish my dad agreed with this post. My youngest brother went through a faze where he loved wearing dresses. Whenever my dad took him out somewhere, he would make him wear something different. Eventually, my little brother caught onto this and started constantly asking if boys can wear dresses, and would ask if his family members would be angry if he wore a dress. It was really sad. Luckily, my mom was perfectly fine with him wearing dresses in public, and guess what? When she let him wear those dresses, no one said a thing. My little brother has recently decided that he's done wearing dresses. It might've just been a faze that he grew out of, but I always worry that my dad influenced that decision.
Sorry to correct you but the word is phase. Faze means to disturb the composure of (as in disconcert or daunt). Phase = a particular appearance or state in a regularly recurring cycle of changes (as in phases of the moon)
Load More Replies...My daughter likes to sing. Everywhere and every time. She does not care about other people. So it was not unusual that she sang from the top of her lungs on the way to child care. At 7 AM.
It's also futile IMO. Two kids, seven grandkids. Plus their (then) little friends. My personal observation is every kid does weird things from time to time. Trying to stop them isn't worth the effort unless it is a safety issue. And why would I want to? Much of it is funny and/or learning experience and/or fun for them or all of the above.
Let your kid wear weird stuff. Chances are that in less than two years all the other kids will be dressing just like that.
Clothing was a battle I chose not to fight from the very beginning. As long as we're not expecting company, you can be as naked as you like at home. If we're going somewhere, it just needs to be weather appropriate.
I'm the only guy in my school that has a denim jacket with a big back patch and a bunch of pins and I wear it every day, so I'm certainly letting my kids wear whatever they want
I had a colleague who referred to her 4-year-old's fashion sense as 'homeless ballerina".
Posting your entire life online.
MizzyvonMuffling replied:
…plus airing dirty laundry/family feuds online.
Didn't she try to sue the cruise line for that one? Or something equally stupid.
Load More Replies...I hate the vague posts. That's what drives me nuts. "Feeling blue today!" - you ask what's wrong and half the time you get "I don't want to talk about it!" clearly you do!!
No, they just want people to ask them about it, and to give them sympathy ("so I know who really cares about me!!!"). When actually, they're "feeling blue today" because they haven't had enough likes on their previous post, or something stupid like that.
Load More Replies...Or letting people know ’you can’t open a jar’. Uhm, why not look that up instead?
Or asking stupid questions like, 'where can I buy a hammer?' Erm, a hardware store perhaps. I honestly don't know if people can't think for themselves any more, or they are just attention seeking (or both).
Load More Replies...I don't need to know what restaraunt you are in, or being told what you are eating.
This one always struck me as dumb for a couple reasons: 1)Think about how utterly disinterested you are in what everyone else posts on social media....that is, at best, how everyone else views your c**p. 2) If someone is actually motivated to check in on you.....if you've been posting the minutia, or even just the highlights of your life to social media, the fact that the information exists there takes away all motivation to actually speak to you, because that conversation is likely going to be a rehash of whatever pictures, or "status updates" you just scrolled through.
Interestingly, a 2024 paper by UC Santa Cruz psychologists Phil Hammack and Adriana Manago summarizes decades of research showing how social media has also fueled an explosion of diversity in gender and sexuality in 21st-century America while enabling a cultural backlash at the same time.
The paper argues that platforms like Tumblr and TikTok have facilitated new cultural norms, enabling individuals to explore gender and sexuality more openly by removing geographic barriers and reversing the traditional flow of information. The authors suggest that existing diversity is now coming to light due to social media's promotion of authenticity. Social media has also helped normalize identities such as pansexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality by fostering acceptance of non-traditional relationships like consensual non-monogamy.
However, reactionary forces have also used social media to spread transphobic, homophobic, and misogynistic ideologies, such as "incel" culture.
Paying thousands for destination bachelorette/bachelor parties.
Wow, I didn't even know this was a thing. This is ridiculously wasteful.
It's a problem for those who can't afford it, but for others it's a good reason to go on a vacation.
Load More Replies...It’s about time for weddings to become obsolete. They’re ridiculous, expensive, and no one really wants to go.
I don't get this. I don't even want a destination vacation, much less a party. My bachelorette party was my best friend and me watching all 3 original Star Wars movies at my house on the pullout couch and eating junk food while my fiance spent the night at his buddy's playing Dungeons and Dragons and our 2yo stayed with Nana and Gramps at their hotel.
I can understand doing a weekend trip to some fun place within a couple of hundred miles or so, but paying thousands to have your bachelorette in Tahiti is crazy (unless you live near Tahiti).
Destination weddings are equally annoying unless the couple wants to elope.
I'm in Canada. Had a coworker who had his bachelor party in Medellin Colombia. Its like they just wanted a trip that their wives and gfs couldn't really say no to them going
So, a destination bachelorette/bachelor party DOESN'T mean driving between 4-30 miles to someones house or a restaurant? R/s
Not a lot of people can or want to go to "your special place" to watch you get married.
Spending money to flex. Like why the f**k do I care if random people think I'm rich.
Nutzori replied:
'Why would I buy a $1,500 phone when my current phone does all the same things at 1/10th the price?' 'Broke talk, LMAO.' Bruh, no, I am specifically not broke because I have an extra $1,500 from not spending it on that dumb fucking phone, LOL.
'Most people don't want to be rich, most people just want to spend a lot of money'
I don't necessarily want to rich rich, but I want to have enough money so I can sleep at night and not have think about which bill am I gonna be late paying this month.
Load More Replies...My Moto works just fine, thanks. Would prefer a slide phone, but the bastards stopped making them.
Like Neo's Fedex delivery in the opening office scene of The Matrix. Wicked cool phone.
Load More Replies...Let's make it cool to save money and blame those who waste it. Sustainabilty rocks.
So true. I buy $200 unlocked Samsung phones (now up to about $225). Work fine, last me for years. I'm on number 3, but would still be on number 2 if I had not accidentally put it in the washing machine. Sucked, but not as much as putting a $1500 phone in a washing machine. BONUS POINTS - I am less of a target for mugging. The mugger is likely always going to go for the person flashing their flagship phone around.
I paid about 6 grand to build my custom PC and 200TB file server (which plays back up for every device in the house) for $10,000 worth of hardware, because i spent a couple months running down used parts and sales. Every penny spent went towards a practical necessity for what i needed to accomplish with the setup, and it will carry on being useful for years to come. Spending $1000+ for a phone....is just dumb. "ooo but look at the camera quality" yeah....it's great for a phone, it's trash compared against even a 15 year old DSLR that you can buy for $50. Spend money to accomplish a goal, not to obtain a new shiny PoS.
I'm even more baffled by expectant parents who are like this with baby stuff. Even if you can easily afford all brand-new stuff (I'm not even talking about expensive brands like Gucci, just brand-new!), it's better all around to go with second hand and hand-me-downs; they're going to outgrow it in a week, anyway Seriously, the only baby item that NEEDS to be brand-new is the car seat, and that's a safety issue. (And before the snarky not-so-funny jokes start, no I'm not talking about things like disposable diapers and baby shampoo.)
Wearing brand name clothing. As long as you have nice clean clothes on I don’t care what brand they are.
I am in a wedding in 3 weeks and I bought my bridesmaid dress at the dry cleaner's sale for $6. AND IT HAS POCKETS!!!!
UPVOTE A THOUSAND TIMES. It just seems "sheeple" to me when someone pays extra to wear brand advertising on their shirt. I go out of my way to buy clothing that doesn't show the brand when possible.
Even if I'm buying stuff at a thrift store, I avoid anything with a brand logo on it. I don't care what brand the clothing is, just looking for inexpensive quality, not advertising for something I would not buy anywhere.
Load More Replies...SOMETIMES brand name = quality, not just status. LL Bean used to be known for their quality and their willingness to stand behind their product. Levi's, Carhartt, Timberland... yes, they cost more, but they usually last LOTS longer than cheap Walmart c**p.
I have a 40-year-old North Face jacket that's still going strong. In your face, Faded Glory!
Load More Replies...Not to mention a lot of people pay big money for whatever brand because it gives them status... a walking advertisement status.
I've never understood paying for clothes that advertise the manufacturer. They literally pay famous people to wear their clothes but expect *me* to pay *them* to do the same? You want me to walk around with "JUICY" on my a*s, at least give me the pants for free!
Load More Replies...there's very few actual good name-brand products, but I will say that carhartt, Levi's, etc are always a good choice. some brands are common names because they're quality products.
Carhartt is great. Or at least used to be when I worked in oil refineries. Still looks good in store but I'm retired / haven't purchased any in ages. Levis is good too. Carhartt does brand their clothing, but at least it is kind of small. Not those super tall letters saying HILFIGGER or stuff like that. Also, I feel like with Carhartt you are paying for an actual quality product, not paying for bragging rights on your shirt.
Load More Replies...Complete waste of money. I often get 4 really good items of clothing for the price of one labelled.
“Our dominant value system, individualism, is a social value system. That means that, despite the talk of ‘the only rule is that there are no rules,’ we live under a regime of social norms,” Davis added.
“Our new norms are more personalized, complex, and demanding, more oriented to the future and to personal possibilities than the old, more community-oriented norms. So woven into our very concept of freedom, we don’t think of values like expressing our unique self, setting our own priorities, overcoming obstacles, and making our mark as requirements.”
“These are desires we have for ourselves, routes to achievement and happiness. We think of them as facilitating selfhood, not making demands on it or mediating our social relationships. But counterintuitive as it might sound, our self-determination is not just a personal aspiration but also a normative responsibility.”
Tipping. Thank God I live in Europe.
Worse is tipping on percentage. Why? Expensive food weighs more?
Although even in my country the tipping thing creeps in. When you pay by debit card, there are a number of businesses that give you an option for a tip. This in itself I find rude and I always ignore it. I'm not going to tip anyone if I have to order by QR-code and get my coffee from the counter myself. What would I be tipping for?
I'd never trust the company to give those tips to the workers either.
Load More Replies...I'm FOR tipping to show gratitude! It shouldn't be a requirement for a decent wage.
The minimum wage should be a decent living wage no matter what the job. Not just service industry workers. And the law needs to adjust it annually to keep up with inflation.
Load More Replies...Thank God I live in Asia ! American employers underpay their employees.The US's minimum wage barely covers the cost of living there.That's why tips are mandatory. So ridiculous for the richest country in the world ! It's heaven for the rich, hell for the poor.
Our minimum wage doesn't come anywhere close to covering the cost of living in most places. Plenty of small towns where the average 1-bedroom rental is $1,400/mo and the minimum wage is $7.25/hr. Which means working full time you'd make enough to cover your rent and have about $50 a month for food, electricity, transportation, clothes... literally everything else. It's insane.
Load More Replies...I only support tipping if it is in gratitude for good work, not as a factor in the employee wages. my favorite Thai place makes a lot of money (they're like really frickin good and it's just a this woman and her husband that run it) but I still do tip because I want to support them just a little bit more, and it's totally worth it.
Restaurants should just up their charges by the percentage they expect you to give and pay the staff a living wage. Then the customer can tip for good food/service if they want to.
Several high-end restaurants in NYC tried this a few years ago. Raised prices by 20% and gave that to the waitstaff. But most of them wound up quitting because it was so much less than they were making before. The restaurants went back to regular tipping and staff came back.
Load More Replies...I don't understand why it is acceptable for employees to have to beg for their wage from the business' customers. Anywhere else in the world, the employer has to pay a liveable wage.
What an insane country America is for making serving staff work for nothing and perform like circus animals to get a good tip
One thing I noticed when I visited Europe was that servers only came to my table maybe two times. In the US the servers come back a few more times to see if anyone needs anything else. Just trying to balance the conversations and give a positive spin on tipping. Restaurants should have to pay a decent wage though but can we keep tipping as a above and beyond type of reward.
Many Europeans find US tabke service intrusive, pushy, and just a bit weird. I don't want to feel like my server is putting on an act in order to beg for enough money to live on. It makes me uncomfortable.
Load More Replies...I was in Florence, Italy in 2023. Agree, no tip however we ate at a few places that charged for everything you used: napkins, tablecloth, cutlery, etc.
This is actually normal in Italy. It's called "Coperto" If you ask for a specified receipt (fattura fiscale), you'll notice it free of tax. It's the cover charge, sometimes including bread. It's considered not to count as turnover or profit, but more as to cover the basic cost of cleaning
Load More Replies...That the rich can be immune to the consequences of their actions.
The legal system is filled with over paid judges, greedy lawyers et Al...these types think the rich are their bread and butter and cater to them. Average Joe can't quietly hand over envelopes full of money or other gratuities and that makes all the difference.
Load More Replies...When the "punishment" for breaking a law is a fine, then it's indeed illegal for those who can't afford to pay it, and legal for those who can.
It really is as plain and simple as that. I knew a rich guy who would just park wherever he pleased. Wouldn't put quarters in a parking meter because he didn't carry coins and didn't care if he had to pay a $50 parking ticket instead. Meant absolutely nothing to him. Even if his car got towed, he'd just call one of his personal assistants and have them bring him another of his cars. Literally did not gaf. But we can re-conceive how we impose fines so that they are meaningful: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/in-finland-speeding-tickets-are-linked-to-your-income/ I personally love this idea.
Load More Replies...And they can be a convicted felon and rapist and still be on the ballot for president.
If the penalty for a broken law is a money fine, it's not illegal
Asking people when they're "finally going to have kids".
100% agree. My husband and I never wanted kids. People always give us the ' I'm sorry' look when we say we don't have them. I now no longer feel an explanation is needed when asked though.
Yawn.. When... Never... Move along Aunty Brenda... So dull isn't it 😁
Load More Replies...I usually go with, "Oh, when we're back from Japan", which usually gets the asker excited and asks, "Oh Cool! When are you going?" to which I reply, "Oh, we don't have any plans to go." And stare at them blankly.
I had someone who pestered me about kids saying how much I'd regret not having them and yadda yadda. Finally the last time he asked I started crying saying we had tried but found out we couldn't and were heart broken. He felt so guilty about it and was so mad when I stopped crying and told him it was an act and we just didn't want kids that he hasn't asked since. - this is not intended to in anyway downplay the tragedy people who truly can't have kids but want them go through, it was merely a way to get this guy off my back by showing him it's none of his business whether I choose to procreate or not!
My partner tells people I’m firing blanks (with my permission obviously). Properly makes people uncomfortable lol.
Load More Replies..."My, I certainly appreciate the interest you have in our f*****g habits."
Just please don't. You never know why they don't have kids, it could be terribly tragic and painful and otherwise it's rude. In any event, not a good look
“‘One might say,’ in the words of one social theorist, that ‘it is no longer allowed not to do the possible, not to live up to one’s potential, not to realize one’s true self.’ Everyone is obliged, says another, to ‘become themselves,’ ’personally flower,’ and be ‘exceptional.’ Now the key question is not ‘what am I allowed to do?’ but ‘what am I capable of?’”
Davis pointed out that “there is much about our contemporary experience that will seem strange and contradictory” if we don’t understand that, paradoxically, “our autonomy is also a question of conformity to social standards.”
Daylight Saving Time.
There is a Native American saying that Daylight Savings is like cutting off the bottom of a blanket, sewing that strip to the top, and expecting to have a longer blanket. The Monday after DST kicks in sees a surge of heart attacks and car accidents because we have not yet adjusted to the new hours.
In 2022, the U.S. Senate passed The Sunshine Protection Act (which makes DST permanent) by unanimous consent but it was, and still is, stuck in House committee.
Probably in part because it's the wrong answer. STANDARD TIME should be, you know, the standard; not DST.
Load More Replies...Very much this. I love having an extra hour at the end of the day, and getting up in the dark doesn’t worry me.
Load More Replies...I've missed it several times and have been early/late to several appointments and restaurants.
Insurance companies thinking they know better than doctors about our health needs. I want to see that system crumble and disappear before the end of my life. Probably won't happen, but I still want it.
MissusNilesCrane replied:
Doctor: My patient needs prior authorization for X medication because generic isn't effective.
Pharmacy: The doctor says his patient needs name-brand medication for his patient.
Insurance: Does she really, though? Better check with the doctor.
The story of my life.
Thank God I live in Europe. As someone else commented a couple of minutes ago on a different post.
I've had a lot of hospital appointments the past few months and thankfully I've never had to worry if an insurance advisor is going to approve my treatment or medication, I can just worry about how am going to get better.
Load More Replies...The current grift of insurance companies is to automatically deny any and all claims as soon as they come in regardless of validity. Because 1. enough people will give up and not try to pursue it, and 2. the cost of lawsuits from those who are denied coverage for life-saving treatments is less than the benefits of point 1. They are actually applying "the formula" mentioned in Fight Club en masse, and it's sickening.
It's not everywhere though. Many countries have companies where health care is free for employees. The irony being that those same countries have free healthcare.
Well, "free" meaning it's either tax paid or a compulsory insurance deducted from your salaty. Like, no such thing as a free lunch or free healthcare ;)
Load More Replies...Oh this is my specialty though! I'm the one at the doctors office that calls these not so bright folks at the insurance company (with your medical records in hand) and explains exactly why you need brand medication and the "formulary alternatives" you've already tried. I get your approval for a year at a time. I'm happy to do this for you too by the way so personally satisfying for me to help my patients get the best possible care from their insurance companies! :))
American health system really needs to be seriously overhauled. In my country although our health system isn't working well it doesn't have insurance companies telling doctors how, when and which people are to be treated
I was told by my insurance company that after near 10 years, my diabetic supplies (lancets, test strips, Dexcom G6 & 7 etc.) was no longer needed! I was like "cool, some suit fresh out of high school came up with a cure for diabetes?? Do please let me in on this ingenius new breakthrough! With a little bit of arguing and a bit of pïss and vinegar, they finally admitted that it was an idiot thing to claim. I got my stuff.
Here in Sweden, the pharmacists ask if the generic/reduced price version is OK. If we say NO, we get the one that the doctor has prescribed. We also pay a maximum of EUR 120 for prescription medication over 12 months, the rest of that period is free. No insurance companies involved.
Health insurance. You pay plenty for it. Yet you also pay a ridiculous amount if you have any sort of major health problem. What’s the point? The whole system is completely broken.
In South Africa we have something similar and it can be just as frustrating. The medical aid pays for most things but if the doctor charges above the medical aid rate, the patient has to cover it. I had a biopsy yesterday and the clinic made me sign that I would pay the ELEVEN THOUSAND RAND if the medical aid didn't - despite the fact that I got authorization for the procedure.
Load More Replies...Obamacare is a compromise. What we need is a single-payer system.
Load More Replies...Not everywhere though. NZ here, both my sons have private health insurance provided by their employers for free. It includes eyes, so glasses and contacts, and dental, surgery etc. *edit to add details.
Yes, but it is private. In Germany every person has compulsory insurance. A homeless, non paying person can walk into a hospital and would get the same help as a paying person. We also have private insurance of course.
Load More Replies...You pay like $12K a year plus another 6K in deductables only for your insurance company to tell you you're denied. It's like saying a life saving removal of a cancerous tumor is "elective!"
No, not all all broken. It does exactly what it is meant to do, which is put money into the pockets of shareholders and CEOs.
Bridezillas and special “requests” for weddings. No one should be expected to give you thousands of dollars Susan just because you’re getting married.
Expensive vehicles- I’ll stick with my paid off Toyota- I hate car payments.
Everything being fake- fake fingernails, fake eyebrows, fake lashes, fake boobs, etcetera. I’m all for self care- but all the fake… why?
Same. My nails are awful, but I stopped going to the nail salon over a year ago when the prices went up. I am a press-on girl now. I can do my nails for about $15 per month instead of $140, and they look just as good and there is less risk for infection.
Load More Replies...Most of my life I had relatively sparse eyebrows and now, as an older woman, my eyebrows have basically disappeared, so I do use eyeshadow to draw them on now.
I wish I could give you some of mine. For the last few years the lady who's been cutting my hair for 30 years just trims them too. She doesn't even ask any more.
Load More Replies...Or Hondas. My previous one lasted 20+ years with very minor issues.
Load More Replies...When I am having a conversation with a customer with gigantic false eyelashes, it takes a lot of energy to not stare at the monstrosities.
Remembering how women of the 90s-2000s overplucked their eyebrows and now have to draw them on every day. My sister knew this was a thing but still went to an eyelash lady to get falsies, 10+ years later she no longer has the thick luxurious eyelashes that run in our family, she has threadbare lashes and is stuck permanently spending money on fake ones.
I drive my cars until they cost too much to fix. Basically into the ground.
Crossing my arms means I’m closed off.
Actually I’m just really comfortable standing that way. I do it all the time.
Moominsean replied:
I agree. Just standing there with your arms hanging feels kind of awkward and not particularly comfortable.
7 million years walking upright and we still don't know what to do with the arms
One of the reasons pockets exist is so you can put your hands in them. Sorry, ladies.
Everyone walking around with phones in faces even at a gym where they need to have thing in hands to work out.
Cause it's not actually about working out, it's making sure everyone knows you go to the gym.
It's about narcissism - "Look at me, look at me !" How pathetic !
I named my toilet Jim instead of John so I can telll everyone I went to the Jim this morning.
...and people in restaurants on their phones. While I'm eating, I DO NOT want to hear your conversation.
The idea that there are specific “breakfast foods” was just marketing made up by cereal companies to sell more cereal
I will die on this hill.
ebobbumman replied:
Aside from bacon and eggs, all our breakfast food is dessert: pancakes, waffles, muffins, donuts? It isn't acceptable to eat cupcakes and ice cream for breakfast, but is a muffin or a waffle covered in whipped cream just fine? It's bizarre.
I've never understood the American way of eating sweet foods for breakfast. I've tried it, and been ravenously hungry by 10.30. If I eat a savory breakfast I'm fine until 1pm.
If it helps, I had potato cheese bacon soup this morning for breakfast.
Load More Replies...For me, sandwiches (usually open bread-and-butter based, with a slice of meat product and/or cheese) is the breakfast food. In my country, it is pretty common. (Bread with jam too.)
Leftover cold pizza right out of the fridge is one of my favorite breakfast foods.
Cold pizza and hot coffee, also known as the Breakfast of Champions.
Load More Replies...When I was a kid back in my country, we had no such thing as food being categorized for breakfast, lunch or dinner, food was food, we normally would have leftovers from dinner for breakfast, sometimes mom would cook 1 thing for the whole day’s meal
I LOVE leftover dinner for breakfast and (except for steak and eggs) hate all so called "breakfast foods"
Load More Replies...Leftover pizza is the best breakfast, especially with a cold glass of milk. THIS is the hill upon which I will die (with a cold slice of pizza in one hand and a cold glass of milk in the other, of course).
That's o.k. A cupcake is a muffin (in my world) and ice cream for breakfast? Sounds good. People eat yogurt for breakfast. I can see ice cream and a cupcake on my plate.
The idea that men who take good care of their appearance must be gay.
No, but the immediate assumption that you MUST be gay because you take care of yourself is irritating
Load More Replies...People are going to judge you, no matter what. So give them a reason to judge. Look the way YOU want, irrespective of what they think. In the end, you'll be much more comfortable, and if they are uncomfortable by your looks,it's not your problem, it's THEIR problem.
And men who care about what they eat. When I grew up people used to say 'salad is only for rabbits and women' and laugh. Wonder who is laughing now for not eating your vegs?
I’ve used “salad is not food, it’s what food eats”. And then I’ll order a salad because I don’t like hot soup. My favorite is “Kale is not food. Kale is paper pressed into a leaf shape and dyed green”. But I’ll eat it too if it’s prepared right.
Load More Replies...Let people who care about their appearance be. Why does anyone even have this stupidity in their heads. Gah!
That you should slave your life away to rich a******s that don't care about you, and that if you don't, you're "lazy.".
I'm glad to say my job doesn't make anyone rich, since it's a state-owned educational institution.
I work for a government school and I can assure you that people in our government are stealing money (not at my school, but the ANC is corrupt ay eff.)
Load More Replies...I hate that we have to work at all. It's bullshït. You slave away the best years of your life just to get maybe 20 years at the end when you're far too old to do anything super exciting. Can't skate a half pipe, can't ride a roller coaster. It's a shït as fück deal and I'm against it.
There are many ultra rich a******s everywhere
Load More Replies...It's not about "slaving your life away FOR rich a******s", you may be employed by them, but you are very much working for your own benefit...besides which, it is entirely possible to start your own thing, be your own boss....but not many people opt for that option, because the reality is that it's even more work, longer hours, more responsibility, stress and having to wear a dozen different hats at any one time as opposed to just ya know, doing what you're told to do when you're told to do it.
Doctors and really all providers who schedule an appointment and are expected to be late while you are expected to be early and penalized for being late. Doctors, meetings, interviews, service appointments... and copays before I receive a service of any kind.
I think this has a lot to do with patients taking longer, being late or not turning up rather than the incompetence by doctors. Plus they probably overbook because of average 'no shows'. Most health care workers do their very best and I am always grateful when seeing them. Thank you everyone who works in the healthcare system.
Doctors run late usually due to some sort of an emergency...especially if the doc is a surgeon or specialist. That being said I worked for a group of cardiologists if the doc you were scheduled to see was going to be more than 15 min late we would give you the option to be rescheduled or see one of the other docs.
Nearly 30 years with my dentist. Not once that I can recall has he ever seen me on time. Turned up on time for last appointment. Someone else turned up late but was allowed to go before me. No do you mind or anything like that. I walked out and registered with another surgery.
Lately I've been getting notified to" please be here 15 minutes before your appointment ".Why, so I can spend another 15 fun filled minutes in the waiting room? Make the appointment for when you actually want me there.
I fill out my paperwork online only to have to arrive 15 minutes early and be given a clipboard with the same questions.
Yes! I went to a physio once and was bang on time for my appointment because the tube got delayed - I got a lecture from the receptionist about how if I'd been one minute late, they would cancel my appointment. The physio was *40 minutes* late seeing me!
I want to know why I can't get the specific amount for a surgery BEFORE I have to have it. Anything else I buy, I know the price of before I buy it. So why is it so hard to let me know the cost of a surgery I need before I get it? What - you like to surprise people or something? Come on - it's not like the doctor hasn't done a thousand of these operations before. Even my mechanic can give me a good estimate before he starts on my car.
Doctors are running late as a result of diligently ensuring everyone gets the medical care they need. You are late because you didn't leave early enough or factor in possible delays. It's not the same.
I went to a general practitioner and there was always a roomful of patients waiting to see him. One particular time we waited for over 2 hours (all of us) because he was at the hospital delivering a baby (early 70s). I don't mind the rules they have now. If you'll be late or unable to make the appointment, you should have enough manners to call them and let them know. Unfortunately manners seem to be in short supply these days.
In health care, I am glad they get delayed. It usually means they had to take some time to: help out in some crisis situations and did / took some extra time with a patient who really needed it. It usually means they will do the same for me when I am having some emergency.
Two weeks notice to quit a job. They can let you go without even a seconds warning but if you leave without giving a two week notice you’re the bad guy and filed under “not rehireable”.
The entire idea behind the two week notice is so they could train your replacement but these days they often don’t really have anyone lined up for that. Then they ask you to stay on another week. Not your problem though.
Your employer is only as loyal to you as their bottom line allows. You’re just a number on a spreadsheet. Once you’re no longer useful, you’re out. So there’s no point to being loyal to your employer.
I don't give two weeks out of respect for my boss/company. I do it out of respect for the coworkers who are going to have pick up the slack in my absence.
So what if they file you under 'not rehireable'? You didn't leave that company for nothing, I presume? Why would you go back? If you can be fired from one minute to the next, you have the right to leave from one minute to the next. Where I live there is a serious shortage of employees across the board, so it's happy times for those who want to work 32 hours instead of 40 or those who want to work from home 2 days a week.
I once gave notice (after having a "conversation" over the phone with the owner where he got personal over a professional matter) by ripping the phone out of the wall, overturning my desk and tossing the keys over my shoulder as I walked out the front door.
I just quit a job that wanted three weeks' notice if I wanted my vacation time paid out. I gave them two-weeks.
When I retire I'm going to interview for jobs I don't want just waste their time as a form of vengeance for shìt like this.
In Sweden, we have a mutual month's notice, both for the employer and the employee (sometimes two or three months, often for older people who have worked long in the company).
No loyalty whatsoever by employers. When you leave, you are replaced and forgotten.
The last time I quit a job, I was sorely tempted to say "my last day is today. I'm giving you the same notice you gave [recently canned co-worker]." Instead, for some reason, I gave four weeks notice. The glorious side effect was that I had absolutely no responsibilities for that four weeks. My desk was right next to my boss's desk, and I snored like a chainsaw.
Having kids when you can’t even afford rent.
Sometimes, birth control methods (except abstinence) aren't effective, and abortion is still a very controversial and stigmatising method.
Controversial opinion, but here goes. If you want to have kids, you should have them only if you're economically and MENTALLY fit for it. Not to mention everybody should have access to good-quality s3x ed to avoid accidents, and being able to have an abortion if they do happen.
I got pregnant in 2007 after running out of birth control pills. I couldn't afford the $38 co-pay on my new private insurance prescription pickup. This was 2 weeks after I was kicked off Medicaid for getting a .15c an hour raise. (To 8.95 an hour) Talk about the system biting itself in the a*s
Buying condoms is cheaper than buying diapers. Also, not the public's fault if a country allows birth control to be expensive.
Load More Replies...Religions that don't believe in birth control / abortion factor in but I also think a lot of it is ignorance. People know "where babies come from' but still underestimate their chances of getting pregnant. And a bigger ignorance (IMO) is underestimating just how expensive kids are. I think I was guilty of that last one.
I will never understand people who can't cope with one child...then go on to have more and more, and their household is total chaos. Then they add in a couple of dogs.
And expecting everyone else to pay for it and babysit. While still living with their parents.
Having to hide a tampon or a pad when I go to the bathroom to change it because someone might find it embarrassing.
Nope, no hiding here. I'm not going to flourish a pad a tampon, but I'm not going to hide it either. If someone finds it embarrassing they need to mature a little bit more.
So stupid. We have menstruation for a huge part of our lives. Yes, bloody discharge comes out during that time. Yes, we have to deal with it. Grow the F up, everyone who cannot handle that. I'm not hiding it, and I will not be shamed for not hiding it.
Exactly! Plus we can all relate to the fact that it's a pain in the @ss
Load More Replies...Tell them to grow up. It's part of nature. Also guys if you ever want to feel like a hero keep a box of tampons in your glove box. Only had 1 lady ask why? Told her for just this kind of emergency. Also if you camp a lot and get cut they staunch blood loss.
Sanitary pads are also excellent for that purpose, for larger wounds
Load More Replies...Yes!! I do this!! I didn't even realize it until this post! I hid my tampon in my hand so my step dad didn't see it! Why?? Facepalm
Why would it be embarrassing? It’s a natural, normal thing? Are people offended by bodily functions now?
I can't speak for everyone, but I'm a 40 year old Caucasian woman and the stigma around menstrual cycles is INSANE! Men (not all of course) won't even buy pads or tampons in a lot of instances because they're "gross". If a tampon falls out of your pocket or something everyone around you is horrified and/or grossed out. It's super weird to me how periods are viewed. They're not lovely, but they're a natural thing and shouldn't been seen as some kind of bubonic plague either.
Load More Replies...My co-worker grabs one and it doesn't bother me in the least. It's just nature.
In school yes i was embarrassed (teenagers) but now I'm like, if I have to suffer once a month you will too, by seeing a new pad all wrapped up which makes you uncomfortable (for some unknown reason imo)
Dropping 3 month salary on a shiny rock that is just an agreement to another even larger payment in the form of a ceremony.
Start your union by working through a pile of debt.
I would much rather give a cheaper gem but with more meaning and quite frankly, much better looking...like there are so many. Also...if the worth of the marriage is based on the ring...I don't think it should be happening.
My wife's engagement ring was also her wedding ring and I didn't pay a lot for it. Not a diamond in sight. It means a lot to her and we've been together for a quarter century so I guess you could say it worked out. Diamonds are unethical as fück so why would one ever associate them with love? I don't get it.
I think the ring is far more long lasting and valuable emotionally than dropping upwards of $50,000 on an extravagant wedding. It is the penultimate indicator of lifelong commitment and the wearer treats it that way for the entirety of their lives. That being said, a ring is only as valuable as its sentimental value, a $6,000 ring worn into a loveless union means nothing, a $600 lovingly chosen ring in a love filled marriage means everything.
"It is the penultimate indicator of lifelong commitment...." You have every right to feel that way but I couldn't disagree more. It's a symbol imbued with whatever value the people sharing it give it. For many, myself included, the ring itself means very little. There are countless other gifts he's given me (most under $20, btw) that I value far, far more than my ring. And he's never even worn one. I agree with you, though, about the sentimental value being unrelated to its price.
Load More Replies...I didn't want an expensive ring, it felt much too risky; it's there all the time, on my hand, and will get dirty and maybe dented or it might slip off my finger. I have a nice-looking ring, but not to a ridiculous price.
Never would do it that way... And we didn't. We exchanged rolled hairties as we have long hair.... We did everything to our specs not to anyone else... Only our son was involved in planning
Having to be available 24/7.
I miss the days before mobile phones. I might use the social side of my mobile twice a day, and I get constant complains about it. I won't change. I don't need to.
Teams keeps asking me if I want to put the app of on my phone. You mean my personal phone that I pay for? Nope.
Many co-workers had their work e-mail on their phone. NOPE! I can used the provided desktop just fine when on the clock. If you need to get hold of me outside work hours, call or text. Blew many folks minds I, a custodian, monitored e-mail. You need it done, e-mail me. You need it done NOW? Call
Load More Replies...I have my phone on silent at all times. If it buzzes, I may or may not look at it.
I hope my country will adopt the German legislation that prohibits employers to contact employees after their working hours have finished. As for the social side, I just check 3 times a day. Inbetween I don't respond. If it's urgent, call me.
This is why I don't have a cell phone - not interested in being so available.
My manager tells us sharpish that when our working day is over, we should turn off computers and phones. She doesn't want us to work ourselves to death, and we are only paid to work 0730-1630.
We've (Australia) just passed a law where employers can't contact you after hours unless specifically arranged before hand. It's also law that you don't have to respond after hours.
Firemen have the "on standby" or whatever is called pay bonus because obviously they need to go to work whenever. So unless your job wants to pay up, you're only available during work hours.
Bras and panties are taboo but swimwear isn’t. Literally the same s**t just water resistant material.
What I can't get over is how nearly all swimwear for women exposes part of the buttocks. Even workout shorts are high-cut and don't completely cover your cheeks. And the ones that do cover your butt go nearly down to your knees. When did we decide that it's practically mandatory for women to expose their asses or we have to dress like Puritans?
You must be shopping in the wrong stores because I can find a variety of covering/ uncovering swimmers in any swimwear shops I go in.
Load More Replies...Resistant to going floppy, loose and transparent when wet, at least in most cases unless specifically designed otherwise.
Load More Replies...I've thought this many times. Kids get it. When my oldest granddaughter started to develop, one time she was trying on shirts in the living room. Mom: "Don't change here! Go in the back room!" Granddaughter: "Why? I've got a bra on?" And she had a point, because it was a modest trainer bra that covered more than many of the swimsuits her mom was fine with her wearing in public at parks / beaches.
It's just another form of cultural brainwashing. You learn it when you're too young to question it and then typically don't question it when you're old/smart enough to figure it out. Totally guessing, but it may go back to (even) more prudish days when swimwear was far from revealing.
I've never really understood why it's considered rude to put your elbows on the dinner table.
One_Lobster_7454 replied:
I'll one up you: I've always been told off for having my knife and fork in the wrong hands!
What f*****g difference does It make? If I was left-handed, it would be the right way round! I find it comfortable that way around.
It's got to a point where anyone mentioning it just gets the same phrase every time: 'I don't care.'
It was considered rude to put your elbows on the table, or to push down on the table when rising. This was because the tables were most often made from trestles with a board on top. If you put your elbows in the table it had a much higher chance of unbalancing it, and the board would topple over.
When I was in finishing school, we learned that putting one's elbows on the table was not rude. What was rude, was placing one's elbow on the table and then resting their head in the hand or slouching. This comes from a time when dinner parties could last for HOURS and was done to discourage women from looking bored or men from falling asleep. We were actually taught HOW to put our elbows on the table in finishing school.
Just not when eating is the norm. And when with good friends: bugger the rules.
Load More Replies...I'm waiting for the day where pointing out dumb unnecessary manners is considered bad manners.
That is. You usually set an example. Never point out, comment = rude.
Load More Replies...I heard it was from the times when tables might tip over if you put elbows/weight on them. Dunno what era this was supposed to be, but that's the explanation I heard.
In the middle ages tables were often trestle tabels, set up specifically for dinner. Leaning your elbows on the edge could theoretically tip the top of the table off its trestles. I find that many etiquette rules have good foundations, but could do with some more modernisation and less pedantic finger-waving.
Load More Replies...Totally get the cutlery thing. Every time I swap them over I get "oh, I didn't know you were left handed". I'm not.
And the way cutlery is held is different in other countries. So whose customs are you following?
Load More Replies...I was wondering if snoring while asleep at the dinner table is considered rude?
Depends. The snores my sister gave, were so cute, it made my whole family laugh.
Load More Replies...The rule is basically to ensure everyone has enough room to eat comfortably and to avoid tipping over any of the tableware.
Well, I kinda get your point, but disagree. It is a bit like talking too loud, or chew with an open mouth or whatever. It all depends, of course.
Hustle culture in general is so f*****g annoying too. We are not defined by how much of our lives we spend grinding away, how hard we hustle nor by our income brackets.
Let's call it "huskle culture" instead because it leaves people as empty husks of human beings.
Unfortunately, because of the way the economy is (in the USA), some of us need a little hustle or "side job" just to keep our heads above water because our normal 9-5 job isn't enough.
That's absolutely true. But people try to spin it like it's a good thing, not pure survival. Both the spin and the necessity need to end.
Load More Replies...Should be renamed Sucker Culture. I have better things to do with my time.
Hustle culture so I can work myself to the bone just to die like everyone else. Also, a lot of these "hustle" influencers I can bet have some sort of financial support.
Being in a relationship.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s great to have a partner, but the amount of comments and single-shaming and false pity is so annoying.
I don’t need sympathy, I don’t need your unrequested help/ coupling in finding a partner, I don’t need unwarranted suggestions of what I need to change…
I am neither desperate, so please Mr. X stop hitting on me, a no is a no…
and nor do I need other women to think I am posing a threat to their relationship, so Miss Y, I don’t want your man, stop hating on me🙄.
I'm Aromantic (few or no romantic attraction, in my case none) and I'm really tired of the pressure to be in a relationship. When you're a kid, every movie end with a couple or with a wedding. When you're a teen everyone ask if you have crushes all the time, and when you're an adult people ask you when will you be in couple. It's really tiring to know you're never going to be in what's considered "one of the most important and fulfilling thing in life" and still having to justify yourself.
I read that as 'aromatic', and wondered what that smelled like. LOL
Load More Replies...The number of insecure women who think I want their men just because I had a pleasant conversation with him is astounding. It was worse when I was skinny and cute, but it is still ridiculous. Sorry lady but I work 40 hours a week with your husband. I have no idea how you manage to be married to him. He is obnoxious, occasionally amusing, but not exactly a prize. And even if he were, I'm just not desperate enough. So chill, no one wants him.
An ex friend was super judgy when I was single, I would get comments such as "I feel so sorry for you" and "I just want you to be happy". Uh... I don't need your pity because I don't have a partner? And why would I be unhappy?
That is because a lot of people think being lonely is the same as being alone!
Load More Replies...It's worse when you're homosexual and straight people give you their unsolicited opinion that you should finally get a partner again because they think that would be cute!!? 🙄
Or being considered a complete loser cuz you're guy who isn't involved with someone. People have this concept that you must be damaged goods if you don't have a partner. No I'm quality goods and I don't need a partner.
I have been in many relationships but got tired of them after about a month (except for the current one. We've been together for 11.5 years now and still going strong! *woohoo!!*). But I always really enjoyed being single and exploring who I am and what I want. Being single is amazing! Waiting to find the right partner (if that's what you want) until you feel comfortable with who you are is AMAZING!!!!! Sometimes I miss being just me. But I'm also very happy with how my life's turned out to be.
This! And when a straight couple want to set you up with their second cousin or work colleague, coz you know, he's gay too.
Not having bra straps show, who cares.
Yeah, who cares. I rather see bra straps on women than underpants of dudes who can't pull up their trousers.
Saw an article once where wearing a having a t-shirt visible at the neck of your clothing was a disgusting show of underwear.
Having to say bye to every person when leaving an event.
Do it like in Germany, slap your hands on your thighs, say "So!" stand up and leave
I just wave in everyone's general direction and say bye
Load More Replies...This! I’m originally from Minnesota, famous for the long goodbye. From Reddit: “The long goodbyes are important. You never know if you will see that person again, they may die in a horrible snowstorm on the way home, in June, or they may get eaten by a Timberwolf or die from Hotdish food poisoning. These are real concerns, and while no one says anything about it out loud (we are Minnesotan after all) it is still communicated in the silent awkward pauses during a long drawn out Minnesota Goodbye.” *Hotdish = casserole
I just don't. I either say goodbye to the hosts, and sneak out, or stand up, tell everybody: consider yourself kissed, and walk out
I say goodbye to the host(s), and a "bye, everyone!" as I walk out the door. It seems to be the norm in my friend group, since you'll hear a "Oh, did so-and-so leave already?" now and again, then the party just...goes on, ya know?
I’m king of the Irish exit. I always make a point to thank and say goodbye to the host.
I was taught to thank and say goodbye to the hosts and guests of honor (like grandparents). Then I can skip out.
Pretending to like small talk when all you really want is to skip to the part where you can comfortably ignore each other.
It's like no I don't hate you it's just I want to sit in silence in your presence and be comfortable we don't always need to talk.
Oh Hi, how are you? ....... I don't give a damn how you are and it's none of your business how I am.
I hate small talk. I also hate forced greetings or the expected "good morning" comments. I may not be having a good morning (in fact, most likely I'm not, since I'm not a morning person in the slightest). But if there's an actual point to the conversation, at least I'll be a bit more likely to want to take part.
Parents giving their kids expensive vehicles.
You see a high school douchebag driving a lifted 250 with chrome wheels. Hauling literally nothing but clearly worth the $100,000.
Is it any wonder why the economy’s in shambles, repossessions are up, and entitlement is through the roof?
Just get them a basic 10+ year old Camry or Civic.
When I was living in the US, I met a psychologist who made a *really* big deal about the fact that I didn't have a car when I was a teenager because I'd missed out on an important cultural rite of passage, according to him. No amount of me explaining that I was from another country and that wasn't a thing where I grew up would dissuade him. In his eyes, I had been wronged. It was surreal, especially since I did own a car when I met him and really didn't want to. One of the happiest days of my life was when I sold it because I moved somewhere with extensive public transit.
That psychologist forgot about multiculturalism. What is 'abnormal' in one community can be normal in another and vice versa.
Load More Replies...While I think that it does not help in character development, it is still the parents money. If they want to pamper their baby boy or girl, they can do that. But they should always remember that they probably need to do that for the rest of their lives.
I had a millionaire friend who bought his kid, I don't remember, a BMW or something. When people would say "Oh, you should have let him save up for a clunker just like you had to do when you were young." He'd reply "I can afford to give him a car with all the airbags that money can buy and that's exactly what I did." Couldn't really argue with that.
Load More Replies...Hey, I have a ten year old Civic in my 30s lol and it works divine lol
My first car was a crappy old Toyota Corolla. I loved that thing.
Load More Replies...I wasn't allowed a drivers license until I could buy a car and pay for insurance myself. Only taught me to value the car.
My boys were allowed to get their license but they had to buy their trucks, keep insurance on them, pay for all maintenance, and pay for their fuel. If I could do it all over I would do it exactly the same.
Load More Replies...Funerals. Horrible use of resources and environmentally harmful. Also, it puts the grieving through so much unnecessary nonsense. My late husband had some serious forethought and refused to allow us to have a funeral. At first I was taken aback but in the end, it was so much easier on me and my kids. He wanted to be cremated and we spread his ashes in a small ceremony with close family when I was ready to let him go.
This comment made me laugh so hard!!! Thank you!! 😂😂😂😂
Load More Replies...Can be expensive, but not necessarily. Some ceremony can be very important for family. We couldn't have traditional gathering after the urn was buried due to Covid restrictions when my mother died. And that made me realise how good it is to sit together and share memories of the deceased after saying goodbye to the physical remainders. In my country, spreading ashes is forbidden, mostly for ethical but also for environmental reasons.
I'm unsure if OP is speaking against traditional coffin burial or just any type of memorial service. Personally I'm fine with cremation or any convenient way of disposing of my body. But the memorial service (in whatever form it takes) is for the living. It is part of the grieving process and getting closure. I am very much in favor of them even though they do not have to be big expensive affairs. It's just a time for friends and family to say goodbye and (usually) to share fond memories of the deceased.
Ok I disagree with this, I am in the funeral ministry of my church, the funeral costs on the churches end are $250. That is for the cantor and organist, that includes a full Mass, the church provides the reception if wanted and we pay for grief counseling. So that is good for $250.00
It's not the actual funeral at a church that costs so much. As you have said, that part is relatively inexpensive. It's the $10,000 casket that funeral homes push at you & the huge, fancy wake. That part is the scam.
Load More Replies...Each to their own. For some people the ceremony is important because it is the last chance to say goodbye but other people don't want the fuss or expense. Direct cremations are getting more popular in the UK. Personally I am not a goodbye person and would prefer a direct cremation.
I truly regret that my final memory of my parents was of them dead in a box.
Load More Replies...My Dad died last year. He didn't have a funeral. His body was taken away by the undertakers and he was cremated, but I don't even know what day it happened. His ashes were returned to the family. We had a memorial service about 6 weeks after he passed away.
When a long-time friend of mine died several years ago, instead of a funeral we had a gathering at a local motel (so out-of-towners could spend the night) and reminisced about him and his life. We told stories, some of them funny, while drinking beer or wine and nibbling on snacks. No need for a church, or a minister, or a fancy ceremony. That is the sort of funeral I would like to have - all my friends getting together and talking about how great I am (ha ha ha!) while getting sloshed.
Load More Replies...It is possible to get your ashes pressed into a gemstone. When I die I want that to be done with my ashes.
If you really want to do that, you need to make sure that you put it in writing and make sure that your loved ones know. They will not accept bodies deceased for more than 48 hours so your family will need to know how to contact them immediately, especially if it's a weekend. Otherwise you may lose your chance.
Load More Replies...My father also did not want any funeral or wake of any kind. I did honor his wishes although I didn't bury him in the backyard well because it's not actually legal lol. In retrospect I do wish I did have a wake. It would have been nice to see him one last time cleaned up and nicely dressed.
Obsessing over celebrities or anyone in the media while neglecting your own present life and social circle.
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Important to note that professional athletes are, without question, celebrities.
I follow the NBA to a minor extent, but I'm not tuned into it all hours of the day, nor do I let it make me start gambling because, apparently, we decided to regress a bit as a collective.
People who know every trade and every life story of every player are also sometimes likely to talk down on Swifties like they are any different.
Those who have surgery or spend a fortune on outfits to look like a celeb. What a waste. You'll never be them or anything like them. Be yourself and life your own life, it's the only one you've got.
to parlay from OPs comments- the same people also look down at the "nerd" crowd (esp cosplayers). Like.. dude who wears "war paint" to a football game in -10 degree weather... you are making fun of a guy dressed up as thor? really ? (Legit saw this happen at the Roosevelt redline stop in chicago one day when a Bears game overlapped with a comic con weekend and my god, I wanted to hurt people)
I think one important point is "while neglecting your own present life and social circle". Anything is bad in excess, but sometimes certain celebrities and their messages can help you during tough times.
Alright, why was I downvoted ? I didn't said worshipping someone was okay, I said that some celebrities have messages that can help you and that's a truth.
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Being nice to a person but secretly gossiping or judging behind their back, why not to tell them the truth in the face?
My friend just got a haircut. I think it’s awful. She was clearly nervous about my reaction so I lied and said it looked great. She looked relieved and thankful and I was glad I could give her confidence when she needed it. I then discussed her haircut with another friend who also didn’t think it was great. Are we bad people for “secretly gossiping” behind her back? We just had a genuine conversation and both chose kindness over honesty to our friend because that’s what she needed most.
I was always told if you can't say it to their face then don't say anything at all!
My work colleagues are all like this. I'm careful what I let them know about me.
Bachelor and bachelorette parties where the point is to live it up one more night as an unmarried person, last chance to enjoy all the vices. Wtf?
Where I live, it's called something like "Goodbye to freedom party" and like...if a marriage with a person rids you of your freedom, or you see it like that, then just PERHAPS you shouldn't marry that person at all.
Yeah, I never understood that. It's been happening a lot more here based on Hollywood influence but I just don't get it...so why exactly are you getting married then?
I never had one...instead me and my two best friends took a 4 week cooking course...much more fun and I started my marriage with a few more culinary skills
Much more fun! I went to a wedding where the "bachelor" parties were combined (2 men) & we also had a cooking class. It was just the one for the day, and then we had a lovely lunch with the dishes we made, & lots of wine. We had a great time, and it was nice seeing a couple that didn't look at marriage as being "locked down. "
Load More Replies...Honestly, I think people take them too seriously. Sure, go out with your buddies "one last time". We both know it won't be the last time, for you or me. It's just a pre-wedding celebration with your friends. Now if you decide to cheat because it's your "bachelor/ette" party then you are just a scumbag.
Everytime I raise hell, my wife is usually right beside me or she's the one who instigated it!
Yeah, my husband didn't do anything at his bachelor party that he wouldn't also do as a married man.
My bachelorette party was the original Star Wars trilogy and junk food with my best friend while my fiance spent the night at his buddy's house playing Dungeons and Dragons.
You're expected to accept someone's request on social media to be polite, and you're expected to stay social media "friends" with them even if you're not friends in real life.
I always get c**p about not wanting acquaintances and colleagues on social media....like I've hurt their feelings. Sometimes it's nothing personal.
I have never had an account on any social media and have never missed it
Morten, Bored Panda is social media. You have an account here.
Load More Replies...That's ASOCIAL. Antisocial is doing things thst disrupts society. Like beating someome just because you feel like doing it.Edit: psihopats are an example of having extreme antisocial behaviour.
Load More Replies...The only social media I have is LinkedIn, and that is just for business connections. I got rid of facebook years ago. It was just a time suck. I have better things to do that post on TickGram or Instatok about what I am having for dinner, or checking in at a restaurnat on MyFace so the thieves know how long they have to break into my house before I come home.
Totally agree. I never sent a friend request and only accepted very close friends. I have about 14 friends. 😂 It's nice not to be 'popular'.
There's an option on LinkedIn to refuse a request with "I don't know X". What they're missing is "I do know them, but I don't want to talk to them".
I had someone I petsit for send me a request/link for LinkedIn. I just ignored it.
Load More Replies...I accepted a friend request from someone I worked with, sometime later we got into a small dispute, a disagreement, nothing big, but this person "unfriended" me straight away, then a week later sent me another friend request when we were back on good terms. Nope. That's a game I'm not playing. So, when they asked me why I'm not accepting the request, I got to remind them that I already had, once.
Years ago someone helped me set up a Facebook account. I didn't understand why people were posting sh!t and I was expected to post stuff. I don't use Facebook, so there is an account sitting there that doesn't get used.
I don’t honour this expectation. For work purposes, I accept a lot of friend requests but immediately unfollow them. I don’t follow close friends who post content I don’t like (injured animals seeking homes - it distresses me). Occasionally I will dip into their accounts and like something. One friend, a 65 yo who reposts uplifting hallmark-card type memes t that bore me, recently complained that she feels like I don’t value our friendship because I don’t like her content. I said that back to her “so despite our close friendship and the support we show each other, you feel I’m less of a friend because I don’t hit the like button when you share someone else’s post. Is that right?” She apologised.
Eating a food that you've previously expressed a dislike for to be courteous.
Like, if I say I like shepherds pie, someone makes it for me, and it tastes bad... I'm going to fake it to be polite. But if I tell people I dislike peanut butter and they make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for me, I'm not eating it. I won't be rude about it, I'll politely remind them and thank them for the effort! But yeah, no.
Yeah, my relatives were super offended, when they invited me for lunch and I didn't eat their soup. What's wrong with saying "No, thank you."
Nothing! And they ask what's wrong with it and then you find yourself having to come up with a reason that's terribly personal or risk hurting their feelings. It's the whole reason we have "No, thank you."
Load More Replies...I haven't eaten fish since I was a small child. My mother for years and years used to say oh but you eat fish fingers. No I don't, never have.
My Mam would keep saying, "Oh, but you loved eggs as a child!" It turns out the last time I voluntarily ate eggs was when I was 18 months old. That's quite some time ago. They do very nasty things to my gastrointestinal tract. Thankfully, I'm able to eat eggs if they have been baked into things. The proteins in the eggs need to be cooked long enough for them to be denatured.
Load More Replies...I have a rule when I cook that you have to tell me if you don't like it or I'm probably going to make it for you again. Just tell me! I won't be offended! Taste is personal!
Absolutely! Tell me, I won't be offended. I'd rather that than keep on doing it.
Load More Replies...I hate nuts. Have all my life. My mom always told my relatives that i don't like nuts not even in chocolate. Guess what i was always given as a treat from relatives? And it's not like a simple noisette chocolate was expensive, it was cheaper!
My wife HATES peanuts and coconut. The smell is enough to put her off. I know better not to make anything with that in it if I wish to continue living my long life!
Load More Replies...Where is this a "social norm"? I've never had anyone expect me to eat food I said I didn't like except for my mom when I was a little boy. And even then, she didn't force me to eat a lot. She just had a rule that I had to take at least one bite of whatever she made. She didn't make drama about it. === and BTW, that was a good rule. over time I learned to like a lot more foods and it served me well when I traveled to other countries.
Our pediatrician told us to encourage 3 bites of a new food, then move to something they do like. And if all they'll eat is yogurt and carrot sticks, let them. The phase will pass and they'll insist on only something else. As long as it's not junk food, their nutrition will average out.
Load More Replies...I don't understand the concept of stressing out over "niceties." When you really think about it, it's so odd that we live in a society that expects us to be dishonest at every turn. I get not wanting to be rude, but why does someone else get to micromanage the way you respond? If I don't like something, I tell you. If you keep trying to force it on me & get offended when I keep saying "no" or walk away, that's on you. I am not (nor are you) responsible for "keeping the peace." I'm never mean about it, but I also don't feel anything one way or the other about telling someone "no." Full stop. Reset the norms in your life. & free yourself.
Or just being able to say no to food at all! If you bring something for a group, like I enjoy baking so I bring stuff to the office, and if someone says "no thanks" that's the end of the conversation for me. Some people get almost offended and are like "Oh just have one!" or if you tell them you're trying to watch your weight or sugar intake "Just one won't hurt!" back off! I said no, that's all that needs to be said!
"What's your dream job?"
I think it's weird to dream about work.
Remember "What Color is Your Parachute?" It's a book where you assessed your skills and passions to find your dream job. There were even classes for this. I took one once (yeah, I was young and dumb then) and when the teacher asked me what my dream job would be, I told her it would be not having a job at all and just doing what I liked when I liked. BEEEEEP. Wrong answer and maybe this isn't the class for you. Like duh, one hour in and I hadn't already figured that out.
Load More Replies...Well for me your "dream job" is doing something you genuinely like to do and of top of that you would be paid for it.
None of the things I enjoy doing are things anyone would pay someone to do
Load More Replies...I am a bartender and am living my dream job. I love it .. I hate when people say I am getting a big girl job
I don't want a job that my employer sets a high priority on, so I guess being a fact checker for Donald Trump.
I have my dream job. I work overnights folding linens (I work for a non-profit healthcare organization). I get to watch tv or listen to audiobooks and I rarely interact with other humans. AND it pays $3/hour over minimum wage.
Having to buy a card for every occasion - like, why do I need to pay $5 to say "Happy Birthday" when I’m already getting you a gift?
My wife and I go the grocery store together on Valentines day, each pick out a card for the other, trade them, read them, and then put them back because F that they're like $8 now.
Those are very pricey, dollar stores or there should be section for budget cards, it’s also what you write in the card
I don’t exactly get this one. I mean, you’re getting them a gift but writing a card too just shows them that you care enough to take the time and energy out of your day to write a nice note to them on their birthday or Christmas
I secretly find ridiculous is the expectation to always respond with "I'm fine" or "I'm good" when someone asks how you're doing, even when you're clearly not. It's as if we're all part of an unspoken agreement to avoid genuine emotional exchanges in casual interactions, reducing a potentially meaningful conversation to mere pleasantries. It feels like a missed opportunity to connect on a deeper level, yet it's so ingrained that we all just go along with it.
I'm fine. Fùçked up. Insecure. Neurotic. Emotional
Load More Replies...Many, many years ago, I was a cashier and always greeted my customers with 'how are you?'. One time a guy said 'not great' and I said 'oh, I'm sorry to hear that'. He said he was fine, really, he just wanted to know if I was actually listening to his response. Made me laugh. I always genuinely meant 'how are you?' when I asked and still do.
I'm not sure I agree entirely here. The meaningless 'How are you - I'm fine' is a way for us all to live together as strangers. Imagine having to deeply connect with every single person you meet - you wouldn't get a thing done. It's just a greeting.
But why not have a different greeting that does not have a second meaning?
Load More Replies...Not a problem in Germany. You can get an earful if you ask how someone is 🙃
I always answer a question truthfully. You should sometimes see the look on their faces, when you give them an answer they didn't expect 😈
Nope, nowadays i respond with either "living the nightmare" (instead of living the dream) or a new one i read recently, "the horrors persist, but so do i" 🙂
It’s called social norms. People who don’t get this are lacking eq or something. Every country does it. In Japan it’s “where are you going” and the answer is “just over there” not “oh to movies, then to see Jim and I might buy a cake”. In many English speaking countries it’s “how are you” or the British “you alright?” And the proper answer is yes or I’m fine etc., not a recounting of all your ailments.
Excessive consumption of alcohol.
Does that apply for cheese or chocolate as well? Just asking for a friend...
Load More Replies..."Nothing is good in moderation. You cannot know good in anything until you have torn the heart out of it by excess." - Oscar Wide
That men aren't allowed any emotion other than anger.
And that they aren't allowed to like things such as flowers, puppies, fruit-filled cocktails, etc because those are "girly." It's no wonder some men objectify women, because women are the only "acceptable" thing they're allowed to find beautiful.
No no. They're allowed lust. That's fine too. /s Yes men not being allowed an emotional range is insane to me! Especially the women, and I personally know several who have said something similar to this, who get mad when their husbands don't have emotions, but then are mad their husbands aren't "manly" enough when then finally do? It's crazy.
Not taking people at face value. If only everyone would just take responsibility for their words and actions and expect the same form others.
Let's stop trying to find secret meaning, especially to people who are pretty straightforward. So much drama would be avoided.
Come to the Netherlands. We're (in-)famous for calling a spade a spade. Except me, for I call a spade a shovel
I say what I mean & I mean what I say. And I pïss people off with it, lol.
This has long been a problem for me because I'm very much a face value person. I say what I mean and I avoid hyperbole. Some people expect the 'hidden meaning' and feel they have to try to read more into it. I still remember a gift situation. Me: (opens gift) "Thank you. I really like this" (but in a calm voice) Giver: "It's okay if you don't like it. I have the receipt so you can return or exchange it." Me: (genuinely puzzled) "I just said I really like it".
Playing “hard to get” otherwise if you show interest that’s apparently desperate??
As a woman, I have no problem showing my interest in getting to know someone better, especially romantically, however, many men assume my interest in them means I want to have sex with them. It seems that most men can't handle being friends with a woman first, or at all, without there being the possibility of having sex involved.
Some men cannot be friends with a woman. They're not mature enough to make it work. Not all men, but some.
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Hair dressers required to always small talk with the clients even tho how weird some may be, i do feel for them and give them credit for the job they do doing it every hair cut.
Right before I sit, I let the hairdresser know I'm not a talker. Easy, peasy solution.
Same! The salon I go to let's you pick a green disposable bracelet or a red one at check in. Green means you are open for chit chat and red means stfu & cut my hair. I like it because they are very respectful of your choice & it doesn't force confrontation.
Load More Replies...I would welcome the absence of small talk. It's what I used to dread about going to the hair dresser (until I stopped)
Ancient joke - Barber: "How do you want your hair cut?" Customer: "In silence."
I wish they would just focus on the task at hand. I don't need a conversation, I need to walk out of the salon without my hair looking like a bag of âss because the person with the scissors wouldn't stop talking.
Feeling obligated to bring a gift to a wedding when you’re already spending a fortune just to be there.
I'll bring a gift, whether it's an item or cash, but in geneeral I will not spend money beyond that to be there. No plane tickets to a destination wedding, no paying for the meal, will only attend ONE bachelor/bachelorette party, no dollar dance unless I'm very close to the bride/groom and even then it's one dance/one dollar, no money tree, no "ransoming" the bride, no donations so they can have their "dream honeymoon." Luckily at my age, most of my friends & relatives are either already married, or have no intention of ever doing so.
The reasons we gave wedding gifts was to help the new couple establish themselves in their new home together. However, there are very, very few people who leave their parents' home to get married. Most people move out, get their own place,later, move in with their partner, and then get married. They have pretty much all the things they need.
Especially when it's not the first and you know it won't be the last. My brother's second wedding was on picnic. No gifts just come have fun.
I told everyone not to give us any presents, just to be there and share the day with us. Still everyone brought presents 😂
I don’t think it’s so much a thing anymore but back in the 200s-2010s people put so much stock in the whole “never show up on time fir a party/social event on time” thing. It was so stupid and inconvenient and there was no reason for it.
I was always raised to be early. If your on time, you're late. As a result, I still tend to be one of the first to arrive at an event and get anxiety if I'm not out the door early enough.
I'm not a fan of early if it is a private event. Arriving early for a play or something is one thing. But if it is at someone's house, they likely don't want you showing up (much) before the time they asked everyone to arrive.
Load More Replies...I try to arrive about 5-10 minutes after the scheduled start so the hosts have a little cushion of time to finish getting ready.
I'm there early for doctor appointments, concerts, stuff like that. But for get-togethers, I arrive early but wait in my car so that I go in at the time given.
Hugs to greet people. Don’t f*****g touch me.
I feel like since Covid I don't see this as much in my circles...which is fine by me! I'm happy with a smile and a hello!
I thanked COVID a lot for stopping the cheek-kiss we do in France to Say hello. Unfortunately... It's coming back. 😭
Load More Replies...This depends on culture. Hispanics, we are big huggers. But if you let us know you don't hug, we're cool with it. My sister doesn't like to be touched so there you go,
I'm not Hispanic but I'm a big hugger too! Came from a huggy family. I learned not everyone likes hugs so yes I refrain until I know the person is or is not ok with it. It's certainly not offensive if someone doesn't want to hug me.
Load More Replies...I've learned to take a step back & say "Not a hugger!" I had one co-worker who actually respected my position on this even though she was very pro-hug herself, and would either wait for me to initiate, or ask if it was OK first. Always liked her :-)
I've found that most people respect that boundary. I do like hugs, but only from people I know well and am comfortable with.
Load More Replies...I hug everyone - who agrees to be hugged. I mix with quite a few people over 80 who live alone and never get any human contact. There are people who are uneasy with hugging - I've arranged to just pat themon the shouolder to show that I care.
I don't mind the "bisou" greeting in France - - IF it's with family, but to do it with friends and even co-workers freaks me out.
What's the "bisou" greeting? Is that the kissing on both cheeks?
Load More Replies...I was in a group of people, having told them that my friend died last week. I had someone come from behind and started massaging/squeezing my shoulder. I loudly said "I don't like hugs" and I shrugged my shoulder. It took her a couple of times of me repeatedly saying it before she stopped. I was sitting at a table talking to someone, I literally could not escape to stop her.
Plenty of people hug to greet people, ZuriLovesYou
Load More Replies...This should be higher. What it should say though: "Don't f*****g touch me...or you'll get a fist in your mouth." Edit to add: I'm female and I've had more than enough 'hugs' to last me a lifetime. Now that I'm old and crochety, touch me without permission and you'll get it reciprocated in spades. Not in a way you like.
Retail and fast food/dining workers being required to have forced small talk with strangers who are also fully aware that the small talk is forced as a part of the job.
How about making customer service reps apologize profusely for even the smallest issue? "I'm so sorry for your experience" "Again, I apologize that we failed to meet your expectations", "thank you for the opportunity to correct this failure on our part". Dude, all I said was that the shirt was a little too small. Exchange it for the larger size, and we're all good. I feel so sorry for those folks.
Or the ones on the phone where it is obvious they are reading an overly polite script. "Thank you for allowing me to place you on hold. I appreciate you taking the time. Thank you for calling us... " etc.
Load More Replies...I'm looking at you OLIVE GARDEN. It's obvious they are instructed by management to ask how your day is going and if you are celebrating anything today. Presumably so they can try to upsell you but it's so obvious it just comes across as insincere even if the server is a nice person.
How about the ones who are forced to try to sell you a card every time you check out?
One step further when I worked for AAFES. We were trained to use a customer's rank & name if they were in uniform. It was uncomfortable for everyone.
Especially since there are some types of people who think "cashier/server talking to me politely" = "they're totally into me, I'm going to ask the a lot of uncomfortably personal questions & press for a date."
Small talk before getting to the point in a business meeting. We are all experiencing the weather and probably agree, I don't want to talk about my family or trips, etc. I just want to cover the topic and get back to what I was doing before I walked into the office.
My husband was telling me about a series of meetings he's been in. Someone commented to the colour of Sarah's wall, and she explained she painted it at the weekend. Now the 'small talk' section of the meeting is all interior decoration.
My bosses will cut me off when they ask me (I'm not offering freely anything from my personal life as they don't care), but then let their favorite employees babble on endlessly.
In the U.S.?
We have a f*****g healthcare system where an inordinate amount of money goes to healthcare premiums.
Health is important. Yes! So, those premiums covering healthcare are acceptable....
...in an ideal world.
INSTEAD, people spend all those premiums IN HOPE that they never f*****g have to go to a doctor!!
Ours is free and a lot of employers provide health care for free on top.
Define "free". Nothing is free. Money has to come from somewhere.
Load More Replies...Saying "bless you" when someone sneezes. We don't say it when someone coughs or anything else. Most of the time a sneeze is just random anyway, not due to sickness.
One of my nieces will yell, "Godzilla" when someone sneezes (she is 2). We don't know she misheard God Bless You, or if is a combination of God Bless You and Gesundheit. I now say, Godzilla when someone sneezes and will do so until the day I die.
I was under the impression it was once believed that your soul left your body during a sneeze and by having people say bless you prevented any demons from entering in its place
Goes back to the plague years apparently. 'Ring a ring of roses...atishu atishu we all fall down'. I think it's a nice thing to say.
Actually, "Ring a ring of roses" doesn't come from the Bubonic Plague pandemic. It wasn't recorded till the 19th century. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/ring-a-ring-of-roses.html
Load More Replies...It's to stop your soul leaving your body with the violence of the sneeze. Hubby and I use it more sarcastically for things like farts.
I like to say "Piiiiikkk" right before I sneeze. Sounds like Pikachu when I get it right. I love it.
It's echoed in most cultures and languages as well as English. Mostly "health" or similar. Not sure why it would bother you, nobody's expecting you to do it as well; although yes, it's a relic from hundreds of years ago.
As an allergy sufferer, I sneeze A LOT, and it just gets repetitive and annoying when people are constantly saying bless you at me (especially people I work with as they should know better). I'm not sick, it's a very common occurrence, and I would prefer it to be less religious. But that's just my two cents :)
Load More Replies...when someone sneezes more then once in quick succession my mother usually says "Perish you hellion!"
Seinfeld episode: George becomes the office pariah when he doesn’t immediately say “bless you” after a coworker sneezes. George: “What good is my blessing going to do, Jerry? She sneezed, she’s already sick! We should be blessing people before they sneeze, not after!” Jerry: “So, are you?” George: “Of course not!”
Not wearing a hat in the house or any of the other super subjective things that older people view as being “polite”. Someone else said elbows on the table. Same thing. Useless gestures that have zero meaning other than what people say they do. I get being respectful of culture and I would conform to any norms in a house or society of which I am a guest. But in my house, I want people laughing and comfortable. I want my loved ones to be at home with me and in my space.
As long as you are ok with dogs and dog hair because that c**p is really hard to totally get rid of, you are welcome in my home. But please call beforehand, I don't like surprises nor do I like to be blindsided.
I find elbows on the table to be rude because most people (unconsciously) spread their arms when they do, encroaching on the personal space of the person/people next to them. It's not unlike manspreading.
Yet some people must wear a hat in the house, often for religious reasons.
People who get all overly-offended by "curse-words" or "cussing" or "swearing" or whatever the hell else you want to call it... and platforms that cater to those cry babies by filtering it out. F**k off you f*****g twats. They're just f*****g words.
Castigating shame on people who can't look you in the eye. It doesn't mean that the person is dishonest it just could be that they have a a shyness issue or their neurodivergent or whatever. Doesn't mean they're dishonest.
IMHO, seeing the eyes are supposed to be the windows to the soul, I don't look into anyone's eyes. It feels to me like I'm invading a place that I shouldn't be.
Load More Replies...Our wasteful throwaway society. I was brought up not to be wasteful and to make everything last for as long as possible. When I was growing up it was normal to reuse, repair and recycle. Things were made to last. These days things like electrical appliances and devices often stop working after a couple of years and it is cheaper to buy new rather than get them repaired. In the last 25 years or so we have got used to having what we want, when we want it at the touch of a button. Things are easy come, easy go and people know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
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More and more these days, being sarcastic is becoming the norm when having conversations -- especially conversations which involve feelings. Such much so, that when I come across people actually having a sincere conversation without feeling like they need to break the tension with sarcasm, it's incredibly refreshing to hear.
The rules of "Etiquette" were "invented" to distinguish the Plebs from the Nobility. Some of these rules are totally bogus, others downright unhealthy. When do we learn to accept that bodily are normal, and serve a crucial function?
People who get all overly-offended by "curse-words" or "cussing" or "swearing" or whatever the hell else you want to call it... and platforms that cater to those cry babies by filtering it out. F**k off you f*****g twats. They're just f*****g words.
Castigating shame on people who can't look you in the eye. It doesn't mean that the person is dishonest it just could be that they have a a shyness issue or their neurodivergent or whatever. Doesn't mean they're dishonest.
IMHO, seeing the eyes are supposed to be the windows to the soul, I don't look into anyone's eyes. It feels to me like I'm invading a place that I shouldn't be.
Load More Replies...Our wasteful throwaway society. I was brought up not to be wasteful and to make everything last for as long as possible. When I was growing up it was normal to reuse, repair and recycle. Things were made to last. These days things like electrical appliances and devices often stop working after a couple of years and it is cheaper to buy new rather than get them repaired. In the last 25 years or so we have got used to having what we want, when we want it at the touch of a button. Things are easy come, easy go and people know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
Bored Panda Staff: "Let's repost this list every week. It's easier than finding new content."
More and more these days, being sarcastic is becoming the norm when having conversations -- especially conversations which involve feelings. Such much so, that when I come across people actually having a sincere conversation without feeling like they need to break the tension with sarcasm, it's incredibly refreshing to hear.
The rules of "Etiquette" were "invented" to distinguish the Plebs from the Nobility. Some of these rules are totally bogus, others downright unhealthy. When do we learn to accept that bodily are normal, and serve a crucial function?
