30 Rich Folks That Tied The Knot With Their Less Fortunate Partners Reveal What Shocked Them The Most About Their Ex-Life
Even though there have been a few kinds of research stating that opposites do not attract and that people tend to fall for those with whom they share similarities, it's still a question of preferences. Some folks feel more comfortable spending their time with people that have a similar lifestyle or share a mutual interest – others find it exciting when their significant other is a complete contrast to their personality.
Either way, it's impossible to have a totally identical mindset to your partner, which is why every relationship is prone to surprises. Though, of course, sometimes being different than your lover is way more fun.
For instance, this Redditor decided to ask fellow online users who came from a more abundant background and are in a relationship with someone whose life was less fortunate to share what surprised them the most about their partner's previous life. The post received over 65K upvotes and nearly 22K worth of comments sharing an array of stories.
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My husband grew up in a family where they were comfortable but on a strict budget. Six kids and mom on disability. My family had no budget.
One day we were at the grocery store and he always insists on walking up and down every aisle. I finally lost it because he was taking so long and asked him why he did it.
“Growing up we could only spend $100 a week on groceries for all of us. I always had to put what I wanted back because we couldn’t afford it. Now I can afford whatever I want so I like to look at everything I could have.”
Took him 10 years to tell me this. I felt like a terrible person.
I grew up on a strict budget and we never went down the aisles because that is where all the expensive junk food is located. I still don't go down them because I never developed a taste for junk food (on the plus side of things) and I absolutely hate the grocery store and want to get in and out as fast as possible. I would be annoyed too.
I’m not well off, never have been, and I’m the opposite. I use coupons so go down the aisles and comparison shop to find the best deal—-sometimes there’s a generic that’s just as good, but even cheaper than the price minus the coupon of the name brand. I also look at the bottom shelves for the less expensive cereals and stuff. I even fooled my husband with the cereal. He swears his sensitive taste buds can tell brand name Frosted Mini Wheats from the generic. Also, we use plastic cereal containers, so he never sees the box. He doesn’t know I buy the generic and hide the box deep in the garbage can. After the first substitution, I remember him getting a bowl for breakfast, eating it all, and announcing that there’s no replacement for brand name Frosted Flakes. Sensitive taste buds. Right.
Load More Replies...I told my husband the day we were able to go grocery shopping and not look at prices was the day I felt rich. It's a luxury I will appreciate every day of my life.
"Took him 10 years to tell me this. I felt like a terrible person." I think a lot of people coming from poor backgrounds will appreciate that single line..... there's a lot of unnecessary shame associated with not having much money.
I remember living hand to mouth and wanting so much.... funny thing, by the time I actually had enough money to be able to pretty much have what I want (I'm talking general shops here not yachts) I find I don't really want anything anymore.
"After a time, you may find that ‘having’ is not so pleasing a thing after all as ‘wanting.’ It is not logical, but it is often true.” - Spock, in the original al Star Trek TV series
Load More Replies...I had to tell my husband they we could in fact afford the "fancy bread" (like 2.99 as opposed to 0.99). But he had to tell me that "We can afford the dollar store, get whatever you like". I spent a few years scraping by before meeting him and was a little in shock when we got together and things were easier.
A buddy and I went into a grocery store so we could grab a few things and then run over to the bus stop. We were pressed for time. He started leisurely browsing the aisles, every one, while I was approaching the checkout. He acted like he had all the time in the world. Instead of hurrying to the bus, he wanted to check out a new fast-food next door. Missed one bus. We ate and barely caught the next bus. His mindset was: if I can't be rich, I'll lollygag and waste time like I am. What a doofus. I could've been home napping while he's posing. Wealth is a frame of mind, but it doesn't cost anyone else a dime. Shame on him for being selfish and wasteful.
This is a different kind of mind set. Not grateful or considerate
Load More Replies..."Each of us is a moon with a dark side that we never show anyone". Don't beat yourself up. He told you when he was ready to tell you. You sound like a sensitive and loving partner... enjoy being together; you're so fortunate!!
I totally understand this as I had the same issue growing up. It takes a long time to undo that trauma as well.
I came from a family worth multi-millions. My wife came from a family who could barely eat and dealt with CPS at times.
We fell in love in high school. We've been married for 12 years and love each other more each day.
About 5 years into our relationship, I realized how weak I was in comparison to her strength. And realized that much of what I had growing up, while providing a net of safety, produced feelings and issues of anxiety. On the contrary, when we faced adversity in our earlier years, my wife was a solid rock. I don't mean this to sound insensitive but at times, I am envious of what she experienced growing up as because it has made her an amazing human being full of strength and peace. Nothing phases her.
I was told by people outside of my immediate family (friends and others) how there would be challenges with our demographics being so vastly different. The only challenge I've found is on her end having to deal with someone who had so much given to them growing up out of good intentions from their parents and her being so gracious and strong in helping me overcome my weaknesses.
That's a really lovely way of looking at your wife and at your differences. I think he's right. I would definitely say that I have way more strength and resilience and ability to cope with adversity than a lot of my friends who have had much less-challenging lives.
Challenge and conflict makes you stronger. It’s not good to give your kid everything it makes then entitled useless adults. This guy seems down to earth and self aware despite it which is a gem in itself.
Load More Replies...Although I agree in general on the observation that tough life hardens you, there are some cases in which tough life cannot harden you and makes you mentally ill instead. It's such an romantic idea that people leave out of it stronger. It's a bit similar to when older generations say "back then we had it harder than you young folks!" and we would just go "ah yes grandpa/uncle...but you have a lot of other unresolved issues too..." So anyone who has a tough life and feel like it's a terrible struggle and you don't come out strong: don't worry, it can happen and it's ok. and it doesn't change your value as a person. :)
This was exactly like me and my ex-husband. Growing up as a kid, some times he lives in a motel. I have a charmed lift and when we first got married, he was a full time student and I supported us. We had the GI bill, but it only covers so much. I had never lived paycheck to paycheck before and never had to use a calculator when grocery shopping. We lived on ramen and Mac & cheese for years until he finished school. He was my rock during this time.
How does a millionaire boy meet a poor girl in *the same* high school? Asking for a friend.
The high school I went to was a hybrid of students. Some lived in mansions in the hills, others in tiny apartments off the freeway. It’s possible.
Load More Replies...This honestly sounds more like he probably had helicopter parents who never let him have his own little successes and challenges growing up. That's not really about money in that case.
This is a beautiful tribute to your wife and an honest assessment of the trouble of giving your children everything they want and/or everything you never had. Adversity builds strength and character. We learn the best lessons through our struggles.
That is a beautiful story and it's great that you are learning from your wife.
My wife grew up poor in Appalachia in a big extended. What surprised me was how freely they share money with each other. They'll just loan each other a few hundred casually, with no real expectation of repayment. Car repair, water heater fails, need a new roof, boom here's some cash. That's unheard of in my wealthy family.
Working in a tipping business, yes the poorer tend to give alot more. I used to have a regular table of millionaires that would only tip about 5% and that was if there were that many $1 bills. But I at one point in my life had an amazing homeless man give me $380 that I was short for my rent so I would not be homeless. I will never forget that.
Load More Replies...Among Southeast Asian countries this is common. We help our extebded family to ease the burden of those who have less. However it is both a bane and a blessing. Some use the money and the opportunity extended to them to good use. Others become dependent and they do never learn how to earn and eek a living.
So true! And those who never learn and become dependent sometimes even get protection in form of "oh don't be so hard on him, it's just the way he is...help him..."
Load More Replies...I have a very very wealthy extended family that is quite close to me and when I recently went through a challenging time, the wealthier family members chose not to help (their choice, I didn't ask) and the ones who made less helped much more!
That's the truest assessment of wealth I have ever seen. Those who have little are willing to share what they have because they understand the struggle. Those with much, keep the wealth for themselves because of the "it's mine" mentality. If you put a bowl of candy on a table, those with means will take many, while those without, will usually only take a few. It's been played out in different scenarios over and over. There is a feeling of self entitlement that comes with wealth and privilege that poor and low income people don't have.
my dad grew up very poor. He gives money away--and never asks for it back. He told me, secretly, that he hangs out in Starbucks (pre covid), and the people he sees filling up on sugar and milk and hot water, he slips them money.
Load More Replies...This is how it is in my family. We trade money back and forth whether we have it to give or not. He is my family and yeah, I might be a little short this week, but he needs his car fixed and I can make due. We never care about money with each other.
They understand the struggle and don't wish that on other. Most are definitely not greedy.
My wife was born and raised in the Soviet Union. She still goes crazy for fresh fruit like its the most extravagant luxury.
I visited Ukraine less than a year after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and the food shops in the cities had almost bare shelves. There were a few chickens and some bread, and almost nothing else. In the countryside they were still using horse and buggies to transport things (in -92)
I was born in Ukraine in '91. We didnt have a lot of money, so rarely got any exotic fruits (other than what we could grow ourselves - apples, plums, pears); getting A banana (singular) was a HUGE deal. And i loved them. So when I had a chance to move here 11 years ago I went berserk on bananas, I couldn't believe how affordable they were.
Load More Replies...That is odd. Most people grew fruit themselves on their dachas and it was these allotments that got many families through the collapse of the 1990s. Now something like bananas may have been a treat but fresh apples, pears or berries are normal.
I suspect this is about exitic fruit like bananas, tangerines, oranges, etc. My father says they were a treat because they were available only around the winter season. In my family it was a tradition for kids to get tangerines with their Christmas presents, which was so odd to me until my dad explained it. He also told me how odd it was to see a man buy a single orange in some American movie. In Bulgaria that was pretty much impossible, because they were so cheap. You couldn't buy less than a kilo.
Load More Replies...Even in America fresh fruit can be extremely hard to afford even in food banks don't carry it in my area. Every once in a while an apple orchard will donate some and it's like Christmas
Are you rural north central like Wyoming or the Dakotas, far from where most fruit grows? Down south we get lots of produce from Mexico, Chile, and southern states.
Load More Replies...It's the other way around in my case. In Croatia, fresh fruit isn't too expensive, and I remember it being priced by kg (don't know if that changed recently). As far as I remember, we always had apples, lemons, bananas and tangerines (when in season), grapes, oranges and other fruit was no rare occurence either, and watermelons every summer. Now, I didn't really take these things for granted, since we literally lived minus to minus, and I always loved fruit so, regardless of how usual it might have been, it was always a delight for me, and a must-eat. In other words, I couldn't imagine a life without fresh fruit. Then I moved to Korea, where everything is more expensive, but, oh my, fruit is treasure! Okay, I'm exaggerating now, but, when you compare a 10~15 euro watermelon in Korea, for a much heavier and bigger 0.5 euro one in Croatia..... Also, fruit in Korea is priced by 100 g or by piece. It's not unaffordable if you earn money, or if you do your calculations well, though.
In neighboring Hungary, I frequently saw food and liquids sold by the "dk" or "dl", even nowadays. But then again, Yugoslavia was more independent than other socialist countries, let alone Soviet Republics, so probably you had a less bridled economy and more international trade? Also, I'm guessing that the post refers to imported, exotic fruit.
Load More Replies...Grew up super poor in rural Canada. Fruit was apples, oranges, and sometimes grapes, and only when they were on super sale, otherwise no fruit. As an adult one of my favourite indulgences is to make a big fruit salad. I even go all the way with ripe pineapple and freshly shelled pomegranate
Meaning fresh exotic fruit. In Ukraine apples, apricots, pears, cherries, grapes, and some other fruit and berries can be found simply on the trees near residence buildings, on the streets. Private houses also have such trees in the yard. Apricots just end up on the ground, and I used to pick them up near my apartment building in my childhood (90-00s)
I grew up in Alaska in the ‘50’s and produce was air freighted up. Expensive! We used to save our allowance and buy grapes.
I was at the fall of the wall in Berlin in 89. Incredible experience. Lived in Germany at the time so when this went down my dad and i to off to Berlin and stayed a while to soak it all in. One of the things that we saw after a few days was a Trabant filled to the brim with bananas and crossing back to the east. So, yep can confirm i guess. Another story was an older lady arguing with a guard to let her through and that she couldn't be stopped anymore. Everybody cheering her in. She and the guard were so symbolic. She took down the entire system..
I'm not rich at all but my husband came from a very poor Mexican village. He told me he used to shower outside (because there was no in-house plumbing) and use leaves as toilet paper. I mean, there's poor, and there's my husband's-previous-life poor.
He's been living in the US for 12 years now but when we first met it was so interesting seeing life through his child-like eyes. Going to the cinema was a huge event for him. Heating food up in a microwave was a totally foreign concept. And staying at fancy hotels when we went on vacation was like WOAH. I still see him surprised by things now and then and it just reminds me how much I take my middle status class for granted.
Food for thought, an annual salary of about $35K will put you in the top 1% of the world earners. *Edit*: This seems to be false, see AbiP's rationale below. Original source: https://www.greenbacksmagnet.com/2018/02/25/top-1-percent-income-worldwide/ ...However, a net worth of just $93K is enough for the top 10%. https://financebuzz.com/us-net-worth-statistics
Yep. Here we have the most unequal country on earth. Nothing to be proud of. Someone I know is a programmer and he gets $100k per year. So he's in the top 0.3%. His cleaner gets $3000. Per year. That is, 3% of what he gets. He earns, to put it another way, 33x what she does.
Load More Replies...Once you've lived where there is ABJECT poverty, you never see poverty the same. It's not a competition, of course, and I think anyone who has grown up poor relative to the rest of their own society tends to bring a different mentality to the table than someone who grew up wealthy. That said, as someone who grew up American "Appalachian poor" I learned a lot about my own privilege, and about the relativity of poverty, when living in other countries. We have no idea how lucky we are, until we live among people who literally are at the extreme of what poverty can be, and for whom there will never be an escape, or change of situation without NGO or government intervention.
When the family had people over for dinner, if they ended the prayer before the meal with "F. H. B., Amen." it was a signal to let the children know that they don't have enough food for everyone, so take smaller servings and let the guests get a regular serving.
FHB = "Family, hold back."
They were always generous to their friends and didn't let their lack of funds embarrass themselves when doing so.
I don't think I would ever, ever ask my kids to eat less so that I could entertain guests.
We taught guests first, because hospitality is very important in our culture.
Load More Replies...I just can't get my head around giving your children's food to your friends are to save embarrassment. Crazy.
If I would be the guest and did not know and would anytime get to know I would feel sooooo bad. :-( I would hate them for that. I would never ever want to eat a childs food away.
This is quite common in poor rural households. You have no money to hire help or support the church so you do it in food or labor. You pay the neighbor's kids who helped you bale hay or detassle corn with a big lunch. The local pastor makes $3000 a year but they get invited to the house for dinner and sent home with a plate for lunch tomorrow. If you invite guests to your house, you feed them because this is part of the social contract showing you appreciate them and want to support them. Neither of us can afford to take our kids to the movies or buy a good steak but I can give you and your spouse the chicken breasts from the roaster we killed just for this meal and all of the early peas from the garden That's the biggest gift I can afford to celebrate your birthday. That means mom and dad each get a thigh, the guest kids get a drumstick each and you get a wing. Its early peas so there isn't enough for everyone so we all (including the guests) take no thank you portions.
Kids and I live under poverty level and food is always in our home. Fresh home made, fruits, fresh veggies. I don't care who came for dinner if I didn't have enough food, then they wouldn't be staying for dinner.
Amen. All I was saying is I always put the kiddos 1st. Of course they have to watch what they take cause their eyes are sometimes bigger than their tummy. But if your at my home your gonna eat no matter what I gotta do. Lol.
Load More Replies...This is heart warming. I live in a very well payed area in a huge house but i just wanna be here for people that really need it
I don't want to sound heartless but this is not heart warming at all. It's a terrible indictment about the shitty world we live in where people would rather give what little food they have to other people rather than their own children. I'm sure it really heart warming to hear your kids cry themselves to sleep with hunger. You have obviously never experienced real hunger or need so stop embarrassing yourself by saying poverty is in any way heart warming. You crass idiot.
Load More Replies...Cultures like this usually go way back and come from times when people traveled long distances. Someone you haven't seen for years comes to visit, so you put on a feast because you are happy to see them, and they were most likely very hungry and tired. And that passes on to generations, even if times change. Just... think for a moment before you go all judgy.
This is so sad. What some people do to secure anothers brief joy amazes me.
Like i said.... kids 1st. Then everyone else there. Hell I've mistaken my own amounts but the kids didn't go with out. Me and my husband and our friend ate sandwiches happily because we new the kiddos where fed.
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Making financial decisions based around the three paycheck month.
If you're paid every two weeks, most months you get two paychecks, and all of your monthly bills and budgeting is based on those two paychecks. But twice a year there are three paydays in a month, and that's when you can actually solve problems. That's when you can get the car registered, or fix the dryer, or get the cat spayed.
The other 10 months you're doing maintenance and trying to scrape by. Three paycheck months you can actually try to fix problems.
Not necessarily. My mortgage, car loan and personal loan payment come out every 2 weeks (scheduled on pay week), which means, during those months, I get to make those payments 3 times instead of twice.
Today I learned there are places in the world where you get paid (bi-)weekly...look at that Germany! Warum ist am Ende des Geldes soviel Monat übrig? -_-''
In Portugal we get paid ONCE a month. And way below average. But we do get double pay twice a year (vacation and Christmas bonuses). We feel this...
I get paid weekly. Let me tell you five pay days in a month is the best thing ever. I have once got laid once every 28 days so paid on week five. After all bills and rent I was left with less than 200 until next payday. I prefer weekly payments as this way I can put aside every week and not feel like I work to rent
In going to assume you got paid every 28,days. I mean, maybe laid as well, but it seems like tmi. 😀
Load More Replies...As I child, we always had "breakfast for dinner" on Fridays. I never wondered why. When I became an adult, I realized my Dad probably was paid on Fridays and the check wouldn't have cleared till Monday. So Friday nights, when the pantry was almost empty and there was no money in the bank, we had pancakes or cereal for dinner. But my mom made it a fun, "crazy" event, so we never felt poor. I look back on that memory tenderly now.
I loved "breakfast for dinner" night! My dad was a shift worker and at least one week a month worked overnight. Those were the nights when mom made eggs, pancakes or waffles. Those nights were especially cozy and comforting in the winter for some reason. To this day I'll occasionally make breakfast for my dinner and I think fondly of those nights when I was a kid!
Load More Replies...I am very aware of those beautiful 3 check months. I am the only one working as my husband is a full time student. With our 4 pets and monthly bills I always look forward to those 2 months. We wouldn't have been able to afford Christmas dinner without that extra last month
I do this. In fact...I know that every November or December there will be an extra paycheck and that one is for Christmas.
Those were always present money, and save for disaster
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This is super embarrassing and will probably make you all hate me if it even gets any attention but:
I come from a family just a bit higher than the top 1%. I was walking out of my ex's garage and I saw a lawn mower. I asked her why they owned their own lawn mower if they weren't in the landscaping business.
That was the day I learned most people don't hire other people to mow their lawn.
I was 20
As a kid we used to have a teenage neighbor who offered to mow our lawn for us, our rental house would have provided landscaping but we said yes because they wanted to use the funds to buy a good outfit and rent a nice car for their prom
No reason to hate you for that. I just wish more rich people had experiences like that so maybe they could empathize better.
I can only assume they never owned a television or had a single neighbour who mowed their own lawn. Seems very odd not to know people mow their own lawns.
Load More Replies...Ummm... OP never saw a Hollywood movie with a middle class man mowing his lawn???
I worked for a number of years in a non-profit, and had a lot of interaction with 1%'ers. The number who watch movies and television on a regular basis is really low. I mean like really, REALLY low. It is fascinating, and explains a lot of how little they seem to understand or recognize about the "average" people moving about the world around them.
Load More Replies...What would world be if everyone had to live period in other peoples shoes. For example rich folk would need to live 2 weeks how poor people live and vice versa, people who have only lived in city would need to live 2 weeks on farm and vice versa etc. would probably be eye opening thing for lots of people.
I would LOVE if most middle-class people who *think* they're poor could live those 2 weeks as an actual poor person. I think it would go far toward the way many think toward the social programs we need in the United States.
Load More Replies...Because there is nothing higher than the top 1% and we are all sticklers for statistics.
Load More Replies...You just didn’t know. If you’re brought up in any kind of bubble rich or poor it’s highly unlikely that it won’t be until you’re older that you realise how other people live.
My sister has lived in Malibu too long. She told me, quite seriously, that every working mother has a housecleaner ("All my friends who work do") and a gardener ("Who else does the yard?"). She and I did not grow up that way!
I am not rich by any measure. Ex was not really that poor. After we married I found out until she was 23 and married to me she had never bathed in more than 2 inches of water. I filled the tub and bathed her myself. She cried.
I remember when all of us small cousins had to take a bath in an aluminium tub in front of the fire, because my grandmother's house had no indoor plumbing. It was really horrible if you went last!
When I was very young we had a washtub. We had indoor plumbing installed in about '66-'67.
Load More Replies...I grew up poor. My Christmas presenyMy son's friend, "Fred' spent the night a lot. Once he spent 3 nights and I told him he was going to need to take a bath. He responded by letting me know that we could save the bathwater and after EVERYONE ELSE had bathed, he would gladly be the last to use the bathwater because that's what he does at home. It took me a few seconds....I nearly threw up in my mouth.
I grew up the same, shallow bath shared by three siblings. Even now I can’t bring myself to ‘waste’ water and fill the bathtub right up.
My public housing in Singapore is slightly too small for a bathtub, larger ones could probably install one, so I could only shower using a showerhead. Having to bath in a bathtub is something for a luxury for me unless I stayed in a hotel, in all seriousness, this is extremely sweet!
Honestly, food insecurity. When we were first married she would get visibly uneasy if the food in the house was running low. She never overate or anything, she was just always concerned about it. A lot of times when she was younger, she went hungry.
On the humorous side though, she hates camping. Her answer is always the same: I camped because it was fun, she camped because they couldn't afford hotels.
Uh, i get really uneasy when the fridge reaches a specific point. Yes i grow up poor, but never realized the impact to this day. My wife on the other hand could easy life with a empty fridge i guess. Would drive me insane, so i do the most of shopping to prevent that. :D
I have like 3 shelves of backup pantry food. You never know when you'll lose a job, or disaster will strike, and you need shelf-stable food.
Load More Replies...I’ll never forget watching an interview with three students from Morehouse College, a prestigious historically black college. The interviewer, a white woman, asked them what the biggest difference in their lives had been since attending Morehouse. All three replied “getting full every night”. The interviewer looked at them strangely as if she was misunderstanding a new slang term. Seeing her confusion one of the students said “you know. Not going to bed hungry”.
After WWII my grandmother refused to camp. She said she had camped enough for a lifetime in the concentration camps!
From when I earnt my own living, each payday I would buy enough basics to last the month, and always have an emergency supply too. Came in handy during lockdown!!!,
Ah this is why I am a food/supplies horder. If I get down to less than one weeks worth of emergency food (e.g. canned goods) I need to stock up.
My mum needs a good stock bc she went hungry in the WWII.
Load More Replies...I never understood camping. Why would I want to pretend to be homeless? To me, that is what camping feels like and I definitely did not grow up rich. I grew up going hungry at times and always trying to make ends meet and never quite making them meet.
Yeah, even in caravans I don't understand camping. Why would it be fun to live in less luxury than you have at home?
Load More Replies...A family member of mine refuses to run out of eggs. If he has 1 or 2 left, he must get more. He had to leave England during the war and he said between poverty and war there were never eggs in the city.
My wife and her family love to camp. Me have having been homeless for about three years I can't stand camping, but I still do it for her. She also never understands why I always freak out over making sure rent is always the most important thing that gets paid. I also still have certain items of clothing I like the best that ill "save" to wear so not to get it dirty coming from when I didn't have access to washing machines, then I remember I can wash when I want. My wife didn't grow up rich either, but she was never homeless either.
I was the same way. Going grocery shopping and restocking my shelves was such a high for me.
With you on this, grocery shopping is still a high for me, had very little food as a kid
Load More Replies...We grew up "shopping" at the food bank. it drives my wife nuts now when I always fill the fridge, even if things will go bad, although her definition of "go bad" and mine are vastly different. Expiry date are vague suggestions.
My SO said "Today I made rent" meaning "today I've earned enough/accumulated enough to pay the rent" and I realized that this is a monthly accomplishment to someone with no fixed income/salary.
People can't take money out. They can put money in with account # though. Maybe good will come of it. Also is was from 2008...although I've held the same account for almost 30 years
Load More Replies...I live about 15 minutes from Berkeley, California so I Googled the name; no luck but when I googled the address it comes up as a 2 bedroom, 2 bath home that sold in 1993 so maybe it was a small whistle company that ran from someone's home but not anymore.
Account could still be active, just renamed. You can have sub accounts under a primary account
Load More Replies...On your accomplishment yeah that is not good you made rent and you have no had to go and accomplished it God bless you shalom congratulations congratulations I'm just need you motivated momentum have a great day take care
Not to be mean...but you didn't really have to explain what "made rent" means
My last (selling handcrafts) it was "I made gas money" enuf to come back tomorrow and try again.
It's a stock photo. It's not really representing rent.
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My wife genuinely thought, and her family still does, that there is a direct relationship between someone's net worth and the labels they purchase. If someone doesn't have a Gucci bag or a Rolex watch, why, it's because they can't afford it! My wife was astonished when I first told her that people exist that are ultra wealthy and yet drive old cars and wear clothes without labels.
There's two kinds of rich. The ones that do everything to make sure you know it, and the ones you wouldn't know for a while.
New money vs old money. Trash vs class. Gaudy vs elegant. Tasteless vs tasteful. Overstated vs understated. Quantity vs quality. Believe me, more isn’t better; simple, genuine, and elegant is much classier than OTT, fake, and flashy.
Load More Replies...I thought most of the ostentations "luxury brand" crap was bought by people who are trying to look rich, not actual rich people.
Obviously. You get a Savile Row tailor to make you a bespoke suit, there's no visible label outside.
Load More Replies...My dad always said "Say less than you know, have more than you show." I think from Shakespeare. Very good advice.
Was killing time at a resort town and wandered into a a jewlers. Asked a question about an emerald (not that I could afford it). The staff became quite attentive. We got to chatting and I asked them why the attention as I was dressed in jeans and an old plaid shirt. They said it was often people dressed like me that actually had money and many of the flashy types were nothing but show.
I hate brands that put their name or logo on s**t, when I buy shirt or bag I don't want the design to be ruined by some crappy writing on it
I'm with you, plus I don't want to be a free walking advertisement for those brands!
Load More Replies...For me, it’s always second-hand unless it’s absolutely date-specific and the feeble second-hand store in my small town on the Northern California coast doesn’t have anything I can wear.
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Answering as a poor person whose partner’s family is rich. I about fell outta my chair the first time we went out to eat, and he ordered an appetizer in addition to his entree. That’s when I knew.
What? They do? That's weird. I was sitting here confused, thinking an apertiser and an entree are the same thing. Something small before the main, which is followed by dessert (if you're having it). How can they use a word that means "Entrance" to be anything other than the first part of the meal?
Load More Replies...I am still uncomfortable when my bf takes me out for lunch. I always go fot the cheapest meal even though he tells me to get whatever i want.
I worked for a small company founded by a guy who was as poor as anyone I have ever known. Through grit and hard work he became a self-made multi millionaire. Whenever we had to make a business trip it was strictly first class-air fare, hotels, restaurants, entertainment, etc. I worked for him for 20 years and as a result I’ve stayed at some of the best hotels & eaten at some of the best restaurants in the US. I’m originally from Chicago & have been to Wrigley Field dozens of times but never sat next to the Cubs dugout until I went to a game with him.
Eight years in and I’m still shocked at the prices of the restaurants my partner and his family have taken me to. Three hundred dollars for a meal!? A twelve dollar meal is a huge deal to me so I can’t even imagine just dropping cash like that. I’m very blessed and honoured that they invite me knowing I can’t pay my own way to dine with them. (My partner pays my portion, not that I ever ask, and gladly invites me along!)
That's insane. A decent meal here is ZAR 150 including sides etc. TEN DOLLARS. If you want fillet steak with chips you're looking at $13 all-in.
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I grew up in a rich family and married someone who grew up dirt poor. I guess what really took me a long time to get used to was genuine empathy. Actually empathizing with emotion instead of etiquette, making moral decisions in the moment based on how it might actually make the other person feel. My family is a bunch of stoics. They act based on set rules and think that emotion is stupid and should be ignored entirely.
It can be based on class differences in one important sense: Being rich allows you to *pretend* that there are set rules and etiquette to be followed instead of considering how your actions might impact others. It is the ability to believe everyone could be rich like you if they just worked hard enough. Therefore, you can ignore their pain and others’ emotions because they deserve whatever they get.
Load More Replies...Strange. I grew up pretty poor and we had to take pragmatic decisions and having rules to survive.
Empathy means that you feel what a person is feeling. Sympathy means you can understand what the person is feeling. Compassion is the willingness to relieve the suffering of another.Many people show compassion for others because its required by society but its easier when the reason for compassion has happened to you. When you're poor, a lot more disasters result in empathy. You've felt what its like to lose your job because your car broke down for the third time this month so its an automatic termination for 3 tardies. You know what its like to not eat for 3 days because your paycheck didn't hit on Friday. You volunteer to drive someone to the unemployment office every morning and pick them up after you get off work.
We grew up poor and stoic cool but politeness was cheaper. If you care very much it’s easier for someone to fool you. Being foolish can be expensive.
Yeah, no. Vulcans don't think emotions are stupid, they think emotions are dangerous if left unchecked. And for the most part, they're right.
Load More Replies...Lack of empathy is a huge cultural issue here (U.S)... it is something that is learned from parents; I've known plenty of "dirt poor", who raised their children to be narcissists as well. It's not completely exclusive to demographic.
This is my situation as a working class Canadian girl whose spouse's parents are upper-middle class German. He thinks showing sympathy is a sign of weakness. His family NEVER talks about feelings and only apologizes in the most serious of situations.
Load More Replies...I grew up as a middle class American and I always felt our family tended to be kind of "stoic". My parents weren't overly demonstrative and it always bothered me. I knew that they loved me but sometimes I felt like I wasn't part of the family. I was (and still am) highly sensitive and emotional and it was difficult for me to keep those feelings inside. I think my family stoicism is a cultural, Anglo Saxon thing. The town that I grew up in had a population that had a higher percentage of Italian families than any others. They seemed to be louder, more demonstrative and emotional and I envied them sometimes. I'm not saying my parents didn't care for me because I know they did, but I used to wish they could show it more.
It's a celebration when a hot dog bun is used for your hot dog instead of a slice of bread.
I do too. All that extra bread because the roll is so big.
Load More Replies...In Australia sausage on a slice of fresh bread is a National Treasure. Hot Dog Buns are not fun.
It's a REAL celebration when you have a hot dog on a bun instead of a cold ass weiner only on a slice of bread.
Yep. They were called tube steak or budget mignon in our house.
Load More Replies...Cute Canada at the dollar shop you can get a pack of hot dog buns and bread for the same price
But a loaf of bread has 16-20 slices and a pack of hot dog buns only has 8 (some only 6).
Load More Replies...The guilt I have over throwing away the "extra" buns that sat around and got stale (there's always more buns than you need).
Loved toasting them with cheese like a mini sub sandwich after the wieners were done
Load More Replies...Also, one slice of bread and one slice of bologna for a sandwich. No chees, maybe mayo, ketchup or mustard.
My mom would get our buns from the bakery thrift when they were having a big sale. Back then, the "past date" bread was 25¢ a loaf but the buns would go on sale for 10¢ a pack. She would stuff our freezer. Those hot dog buns would be French toast, sandwiches, garlic bread, bread pudding (along with all the saved loaf ends), cinnamon toast-- any number of tasty things.
We live in the southeast, my husband grew up wealthy. He grew up skiing and they always went to Colorado to ski. We go on a big family ski trip with his parents about every other year. He didn’t realize for a while why people thought he grew up rich, one day I asked him “Do you tell them you go skiing?” He knew skiing is expensive, but it never clicked for him that going skiing on a regular basis from a region where you have to fly out is a huge wealth marker.
Up until her mom passed away, my SIL's entire family went to Disney World every single year. Her parents, my SIL and her two siblings, all their spouses and kids. Dad paid for everything. Having this kind of disposable income is totally alien to me (and if I had it, I certainly wouldn't bother with Disney when there are so many other amazing places to go).
True. I lived in Florida and it is a ridiculous waste of money. Plus they just suck the money out of you at every opportunity. Be prepared to pay $12 at least for a bottle of water.
Load More Replies...I had a friend group invite to go skiing. I said "no." I feel that they think I am boring. But reality is the cost. I have to buy the clothing. Granted I can find it a thrift store. But then I have to pay for rental, food, gas money, and for the hotel/cabin. I am not boring. I just can't afford to do this...
I went skiing twice. I was able to rent outerwear for very little money.
Load More Replies...People at my college on the East Coast thought I grew up rich because I would occasionally mention my cousin’s horse or my friend’s boat. Having a pontoon boat in Michigan where everyone lives on a lake or having a horse and being in 4H when you grew up on a farm is very different from having a horse or a boat because you’re East Coast wealthy.
I know someone who had horses (plural) on their property (it was big enough). I was like, you're rich, they were like, "nah, lots of people have horses?"
I've lived in Colorado my entire life and I've never been able to go skiing, I watch thousands of people come up to our county every weekend to do it though.
I still remember how I felt seeing those kids with their tans the next week.
two of my closest friends go to florida and utah and colorado for these fancy winter break trips, one is in colorado right now, whereas I've never been out of the country or been on a plane. This surprised the heck out of them as they've been doing these things since they were little. Theyve been all over and I rarely go on vacation
How can someone grow up not knowing they're wealthy? I make sure my kid is well aware that they're growing up with more financial freedom than most. At 14 my kid is aware of things like student loans, people who need foodbanks through no fault of their own, kids who can't afford school uniforms, etc.
Both came from poor backgrounds. Hubby now earns 6 figures. I still buy my clothes from a charity shop because I cannot ever fathom why you’d spend £400 on shoes and bags “for a season”. You can buy designer clothes in a charity shop if you know what you’re looking for.
I think M&S and Waitrose are just overpriced when you can get a trolley FULL of fresh food and eat like kings at Aldi for £100. I don’t do takeaway food.
Funny story though, when we first got together I was making a spaghetti dinner and grabbed a bottle of red wine off his shelf to add to the sauce. I didn’t know what £45 bottle of wine was, and still think it tasted pretty ordinary. And I drink a LOT of wine.
I used to be poor, now I earn six figures. You bet your ass I shop at thrift stores, and go to the dollar store before I go to Target, just in case I can get something I need for a pittance! The thing about going from poor to prosperous, is that you can never forget how easy it is to become poor again.
This. I am always grateful to have a home and food on the table. I know that one mishap in life can change it.
Load More Replies...I think people who start rich and people who become rich have very different attitudes about what they do with the money.
Many people who were poor have PTSD from the poverty. It sticks with you.
Load More Replies...Thrift shops are the best! I'd rather save up extra income for something I really need than spend it on cheap clothes produced through child labor. At least if I thrift, I'm reusing something that would otherwise be thrown away.
Aldi is great value indeed, shop there regularly. All the major supermarkets now announce they have Aldi price match in the store. My only observation is not to over buy on fruit & veg as I've seen it turn for the worse in a period of time you would still expect it to be ok. Waitrose essentials are better than some of the other supermarkets finest range and still good value.
My mum checked an ethical shop guide and in Australia Alidi got an A rating and the other main supermarkets got a C-. I have never shopped there, as I don't agree with buying imported foods if there are local ones due to food miles and supporting locals. I might have to change my mind given this rating. I do know they sell exclusively local fruit and veg which is good.
Load More Replies...Where I live we have people who go around on the one day a week garbage is collected, and go through the bags for anything of value or can be recycled for money. I have a special bag where I put clothes, recyclables and anything which they can use or eat so they don't have to do that here. It is in a blue bag, as opposed to the black for the stuff which is rubbish. I went through a period as a child where I went through rubbish and I will not let anyone go through mine.
I have about 200 bottles of wine in my basement and not a single one of them cost more than $20. You can get great wine for 10-12 dollars and the hundred+ bottles don't taste any better. Even wine experts agree on this.
About 15 years ago I decided to educate myself about fine wines, so I spent several thousand dollars over the course of 2-3 years on many different wines, from around the world, as well as on wine ratings subscriptions and books. What I got for it was 3 or 4 very memorable out-of-this-world tasting experiences and a lot of very expensive disappointments. Wine flavor profiles and descriptions are poetic quackery. I know a few good wineries and buy from those occasionally, but for everyday pop-n-pour the local supermarket provides very decent stuff in that $15-19 price range.
Load More Replies...Dont worry about the wine. It has been practically proven scientifically that the price does NOT indicate improved taste or quality of wine. Aeration does affect flavor, because when wine has a chance to breathe (or put in a blender for a quick minute) it releases fumes that were created as if it was vinegar.
I intend to try Nathan Myhrvold‘s hyperdecanting technique one of these days (when my wife isn’t around).
Load More Replies...I am a nurse and make decent money and I love thrift stores :) best outfits ever ;)
I know exactly what this poster is talking about. My husband was high up in business and got dozens of bottles of wine every year as Christmas or birthday gifts. Needless to say, our kitchen is full of them. And the first time I opened one, hubby said "That one's about fifty euros, I think." I thought, "Can I put the cork back in and get the cash instead?" ;)
I'm not poor and actually have good investments I still shop at charity shops but I almost feel guilty that I'm buying cheap stuff that a poor person could have needed for cheap.
There will always be plenty of new stock available for people who need it
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She and her mother lived with her grandfather to not be homeless because her grandfather owned a house.
She was putting community college payments on her credit card and building debt with it.
I paid off her credit cards when we were dating and she cried from me being so nice (it was only like 1,300 bucks). I bought a condo, then we got married, then we bought a house. I never really considered myself rich until i started dating her and learned that a trip to Wendy's was a treat. I grew up middle class, and we are currently middle class, heh.
He bought a condo and then a house? Definitely not middle class by any means.
If this is in the US, it depends on when and where. It's only in the last few years that housing prices have become insane. If they purchased the condo a decade ago, it probably doubled in value and they could take that cash equity and put it directly into the house, which would keep the mortgage low.
Load More Replies...$1300 bucks is like more than a whole months rent for me. That would be rent and utilities
I'm glad that despite growing up in a Middle class family that I had my years of financial struggle to understand how this feels. The first time I went to the dollar store with my husband back when we were dating I was agonizing over every little thing. "Do I actually need this? How bad do I really want this?" Because for me at the time. I could either by the candy bar or put that extra dollar towards paying my credit card.
I still try to do that - do I really need this etc? Not because I need to anymore but because consumerism has replaced so much of things of real value in the world.
Load More Replies...We went to McDonalds once a year. Not kidding. And no other fast food either.
Sandwiches. When I made him a sandwich I only put one thin slice of meat in it. He couldn't believe that was how I had sandwiches growing up.
I didn't grow up poor, and am not poor now, but that's still how I would make a sandwich. Only in America have I've seen sandwiches where the meat was thicker than the bread. It was a culture shock.
Likewise. Though if the meat is particularly thin or in a long slice, it might get folded in half to fit in the bread. It's lunch, not a banquette!
Load More Replies...My first boyfriend was from a working class family who rented their house, while I grew up in an academic family in a house we owned. Not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination, but solid middle class. I remember being shocked that he was able to make 6 sandwiches from a single 6oz (170g) can of tuna. In our family, one can made 2 sandwiches. It was the first time I realized that not everyone was as privileged as I was, and it's a lesson that stuck with me, especially during the times I was poor. People are struggling; be kind.
I would stretch it to 3 sandwiches with one guest, but 4 would need two tins
Load More Replies...I never realized this was a thing until I made a sandwiches for a picnic and my date was horrified by the one slice thing.
I remember unpacking a cooler my (European) husband made for a trip. A dozen sandwiches, each with just one slice of meat. I thought, "Were we out of lettuce, cheese, tomato, pickles and mayo?" I mean, aren't sandwiches actually supposed to be tasty?
Load More Replies...One thin slice of meat as opposed to what? One thin slice of cheese? It's a sandwich not a food mountain
And, I will forever call this pre-packaged sandwiches from the deli with gobs of meat, more than half of which I pull off, "food mountains".
Load More Replies...That is normal. One slice of thin meat or cheese. What the heck would he put on his sandwich? I shortly learned to put on some vegetables too, which I like very much, that is the luxury variant of a sandwich.
Bread and mayo sandwiches to take to school growing up. Sometimes if we had eggs it would be a cold fried egg on bread (with mayo.)
As an Aussie everytime I see those NY sandwiches with a kilo of pastrami etc on them I laugh, because that would be a week of sandwiches and nothing to do with skimping, it would be half a dozen sandwiches in any cafe/take out down here also, no idea how anyone can eat those, they look divine but still so much meat.
As a kid, I was like middle class but there were 5 kids. So when we went on vacation, we rarely stopped at restaurants. My parents would load up on sandwich stuff and chips and we would find a picnic spot along the way. If we did go to a restaurant, we would be required to get the kids meals and water. Fun times.
She wouldn't waste any food, ever. We went through a few rounds of her getting sick from eating month-old muffins and similar before I convinced her it was OK to toss old food and go shopping.
While you certainly shouldn't eat food that has gone bad, you should also keep food waste to a minimum. Also, compost if you have the room.
Composting is the way. I hate it when I'm outside of home and have to put food in the regular bin. At home we have chickens too, and they're more than happy to eat leftovers!
Load More Replies...I have worked very, very hard to accept that sometimes there is food waste, and it's okay to throw it away.
Composting or worm farming is very doable in many environments (I know not all) and a great alternative to throwing things actually AWAY (because of course, there is no "away" and those things go to landfill where they are a source of emissions).
Load More Replies...Exactly. Eat before you go shopping, then buy just what you *need* for the next 2-3 days. Make frequent small, focused trips, not one weekly shopping cart piled high with impulse buys just because something is on sale.
Load More Replies...Eating spoiled food actually creates more waste when it comes shooting out of both ends! I always put date labels on all my fridge foods so as not to poison myself.
"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger." This was told to us by a man who refused to let us throw away meat that had gone completely off when our fridge broke while camping in Botswana. He proceeded to soak that RANCID (seriously. not exaggerating. it was rancid.) meat in straight vinegar for 3 days, then cooked and ate it in front of us. He also joked maybe we need diapers since we were such "babies" about eating rotten meat. It definitely changed the way I view how far "off" my food is before I consider throwing it out. (That said I will still not eat rancid meat even if I soak it in vinegar and throw it into a 1000 degree incinerator first.)
There are people that do this deliberately claiming it is good for you. It's called high meat. That's a hard no from me.
Load More Replies...My Grandmother lived through the depression and she would never waste food. Even a quarter cup of left over green beans went into the fridge.
Sometimes it isn't that easy, especially if you live alone and on a budget.
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The prevailing mindset in his community growing up that insurance was something only rich people had. Not health insurance, mind you (well, not just health insurance). Auto insurance. Going without it was a way of life for most everyone he knew.
It's... illegal not to have insurance. Maybe depend on your country though, but it's a global thing
Yes. There are a lot of laws meant to punish the poor and keep them poor. Most repercussions are financial in nature. Can't pay in time? Here's an additional fee. No insurance? Massive penalties if you're the innocent victim in a car wreck. You take the chance because you can't make money just appear. It's apitalism folks. The rich get richer and hope the poor just silently do the work and stay poor.
Load More Replies...In Georgia (US), liability is the minimum and if your car is financed, you have to have the whole she-bang. I believe rates in Florida are the highest in the US because... it's Florida.
In Florida it is because of extensive fraud mostly. When some people can no longer make payments, they let their car get accidentally stolen. Or if they are short of cash, they will bang a fender, get a settlement for repair and then pocket the cash.
Load More Replies...In Australia it isn't illegal to not have car insurance, if you hit some ones car and its your fault you pay the costs for repair, same if they are at fault they pay you. However, we have liability insurance we pay with our car registration, you can't have your car on the road without that.
I've known people who buy auto liability insurance so they can get their registration renewed, then they cancel it until the next renewal. And there are small insurance companies who sell it to them knowing it will be cancelled in 30 days. But the car has to be paid off - most auto loan places require full coverage if you still owe on the car & if you don't have your own insurance, the loan company will put insurance on the car & add it onto your loan payment.
Credit union lending background/collection Mgr. 1/3 of autos on the road do not have insurance, not even liability. That was 10 years ago. I'm sure it's much worse now
Here in Canada rich and poor get can access to the same Healthcare at no direct cost.
I have had car insurance regularly with no lapses on payments for 2 years and the assurance I have while driving in bad weather is worth every penny!
Eating leftovers.
Not using A/C.
Shopping around an abnormal amount to save a marginal amount of money on something.
Coupons.
Looking at gas prices.
Driving across town to save a buck.
Not knowing the value of Time over Money
Knowing the value of Time over Money is something that only someone who HAS money knows.
Distance is money, too, gas or public transport money. Which it's a bad idea to haul all over town looking to save a few bucks, you'll spend more on gas than you'll save. But that's also one of the reasons it's so insanely expensive to be poor, if you can't afford to get to the big discount stores than you have to buy everything from the local marts with poor selection and jacked-up prices, and you pay more for groceries than someone who can drive to the Costco.
Load More Replies...Eating leftovers is just an efficient use of time. My wife cooks once and feeds us twice to reduce her time in the kitchen.
Aside from efficient use of time in cooking and cleanup, not a lot of recipes are really geared to two people. Some things are even better as leftovers, IMO.
Load More Replies...I am the youngest of 13 children and every Sunday we got the newspaper out and went through the ads and planned our meals and grocery shopping according to what was on sale and where. We shopped at three or four different stores to get the best prices, we bought in bulk when we could, we purchased a cow and a pig to be butchered and that was our meat for the year (we also bought chickens from the neighbor, but we had to kill those ourselves). We supplemented with a garden and traded vegetables with the neighbors. We canned and we froze meals. Time over Money is only something people with money say.
I will never take AC for granted. Growing up poor in Oklahoma meant a lot of miserably hot days and nights. Sometimes we would take our one fan and set it to blow down the hallway while the kids all slept in a line on the floor, just to get some air movement!
Might be that they eat more than they could, meaning there aren't enough leftovers for a meal.
Load More Replies...I was a divorced mom of six kids and 2 rotten husbands and I know how to squeeze every cent and all the angles to do everything the cheapest way possible.
The downtown mini-mart had a limited selection of average goods at high prices, but it was actually saving in time and bus fare compared to riding to the bargain grocery 2 miles away.
Most people who are not rich can have either time or money, not both. I'm between jobs. I have time, not money!
I had a friend who went to all three grocery chains every week to buy the specific items they had on sale
My parents did that, but I didn't get it as that meant they bought things they may otherwise not have just because they were on special. I on the other hand plan my meals for the week and only buy what is needed. I'm sure it works out cheaper in the end.
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Hamburger Helper. She hates it because it would be her meal 5x a week growing up.
I had never even seen HH before I went to college and love that stuff. 10 for $10 deals are awesome.
There's two kinds of Hamburger Helper poor. There's when you cook it with the meat, and then when you just cook the box with no meaT!
Then you get the Tuna Helper, cuz tuna is pretty cheap
Load More Replies...That greasy s**t is why I learned to cook. After our parents divorced, mom was working 70+ hours a week to pay the bills. My older brothers did the cooking and I got sick to death of HH. I am now almost 60 and when it comes to HH, the answer is HELL NO.
When I was growing up, even Hamburger Helper didn't stretch the hamburger enough, so we had to buy Hamburger Helper Helper. The folks across the street were poorer than us, though; they had to buy Hamburger Helper Helper Helper!!
I'm laughing at this too much.😂 It's just so deliciously funny!
Load More Replies...Hamburger Helper was too rich for us growing up! My mom made a box of Mac-n-cheese and put in hamburger instead. We would also get a box of food from the government once per month. To this day I’m still scarred by “government cheese.” Lol.
My family was very poor, and I remember a stretch right after my parents bet it all on the “next big thing,” that ended up being only a fading fad, and for several months thereafter we ate only beans on a rotating basis: pinto beans, navy beans, and white beans. Occasionally, my mother would be able to sweet talk the butcher at the supermarket into giving us a ham bone to put in the pot for flavor.
Load More Replies...What it "HH"? For me it's the Hammer Head ship on Star Citizen [EDIT: Oh Ok, it's the "Hamburger Helper". Still have to google it cause I've never seen it before]
Completely off topic, but how do you edit your comment once it's posted? On the app, I only have the option to report my comment (weird) or reply to it. I see people who edit and delete their comments and I don't see that ability.
Load More Replies...Cold baked beans and a slice of pink processed pork luncheon meat for dinner. Have not touched either since I left home at 17.
Ok, I'm sorry. What is Hamburger Helper? Seems from the picture one still needs the meat. So what is it for?
I googled it too. It looks like a sachet of pasta and powdered sauce like a macaroni and cheese that you add the meat to. I wonder why it is called hamburger helper when it seems like it should be called bolognaise helper? I guess it is cheaper/quicker to buy the sachet and meat than if you bought all the other ingredients separately (though where I live it would be cheaper to do the opposite).
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Not rich but with a partner who was raised by a teen mom and grew up poor. Sometimes I just want rice and vegetables for dinner. That's a no from her. She won't go back.
I imagine her refusal to have that meal is because she had it a lot growing up poor. Not that there’s anything wrong with the meal, just a strong association with her upbringing.
Load More Replies...Tbh, plenty of people who grew up during the Great Depression wouldn't eat cream of wheat or grits ever again, because it was all they had at the time. Scent/taste evoke strong memories, and for these people, they're not fond memories.
In our country, tinned pilchards (large sardines) in tomato sauce are considered poor people food. We used to use it as cat food. I've seen people who broke the glass ceiling comment on social media that they will never touch pilchards again. I get it. I have the same issue with certain breakfast cereals for the same reason.
I get it. At university I ate a lot of Kraft Dinner mac and cheese. I swore once I graduated I would never touch the stuff again. I haven't. I love mac and real cheese, but never the powdered stuff again.
I can kinda relate to this. the last 2 yrs my grandma was alive. all she wanted for dinner was lasagna from the local pizza place. she barley ate. so I gout stuck with the leftovers. its been almost 6 yrs. and I still won't eat lasagna.
Not married, but dating (I’m in college for reference). I’m the daughter of a multi-millionaire, and I never knew just how many things were easily doable by hand. He did an oil change for me the other day, and I feel kinda cheated that I used to pay so much for it.
It's generally a high price because you are really paying for them to dispose of the old oil correctly, at least in my country.
In my state, any shop that handles engine oil must, by law, accept your engine oil for disposal if you do your own oil change. This may not be uniform across the US, though. I live in the bluest of blue states.
Load More Replies...It's also a common service that women get ripped off because garages think that they don't know anything about cars. It's why my dad taught me the basics of taking care of my car myself.
The bar is on the floor. An oil change makes him a good man? Lmao
Load More Replies...An oil change in Ontario Canada is like 40 bucks. Still easy to do yourself though. People shouldn't drive/own a car if they can't do basic things or at least have cash to pay for them to be done.
An oil change isn’t $40, and even if it were, it wouldn’t be on a nice car. An average Mercedes oil change is at least $700 for an older model normal merc.
Load More Replies...You feel cheated? "YOU" lost money? LMAO Glad you were educated though, good luck with modern cars, locating and easily replacing the filter ;)
I used to do oil changes (had a really old car-70's Malibu Chevelle - gawd I loved that car). Changing the oil was messy and a pain. You were able to go down to an auto shop to dispose of the oil. This was in the 90's - also a very blue state. I think it was free, but that was also a very long time ago. Luckily, I have the money now to pay someone to do it and have found a reasonable repair shop.
$40 for an oil change is pretty standard and not expensive unless you're driving a bigger vehicle that needs a higher grade of oil but still not expensive
Lol an oil change is like $1000, not $40. If you have the kind of car the daughter of a multi millionaire would have. Even if you just have a normal Mercedes or something, it’s nowhere near $40. Even on a small car. Forget about it if you have anything Porsche level or higher. Those are even more.
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im not married, but my girlfriend of 4 years doesn't have alot of the childhood experiences and skills I took for granted that most people had. Like never learning how to ride a bike, how to swim, never having gone camping or seen snow (we live only a few hours away from seasonal snow)
We had students who had never gone 10 miles out of town. My mom would take them out to lunch in a larger town about 25 miles away. Some cried, some were just in awe. We lived in a small town with just a caution light.
I know children who do not know anything about their hometown apart from their part of it. Nothing.
Load More Replies...A bike costs money. Pools and swimming lessons cost money, even using the public pool costs a few bucks. Camping equipment costs money, travel to snow costs money, decent hiking boots and fishing rods cost money. If you grow up urban poor, you may spend your whole life in cities or towns, never seeing countryside or mountains, because you can't afford to expand your horizons. Same for rural poor never seeing the big city, it costs too damn much.
As a kid we often moved and when we moved to the country for the first time, I found out how isolated the rural poor are. So many rednecks are that way because they've never had enough money to leave their own county for an hour and meet someone even remotely different. We lived 31 miles from the state border and when I was 16, we went on a school trip to Mammoth Caves. It was 3 1/2 hours there, saw the caves, came home. On the way back across the bridge over the Ohio river, the guy sitting in bus next to me told me it was the first time he'd ever left the state. Someone else said me too. The only state highway out of our town went to that bridge.
Load More Replies...Even today when you can travel between any two places on the planet in a day or less, most people still die within a short distance from where they were born. With a sad percentage having never travelled outside of that distance.
it´s really wonderful how many wealthy good people are out there, loving to help and share. But what strikes me really is that many of them seem to live in a bubble. I mean, even if you lived your whole life in a rich neighbourhood, and even if you hadn´t ever watched a single hour of tv in your live ... how can one not know, how can one not have been noticing ever that there are people out there, that have less to zero money? How is this possible?? There is not a single place in the world where you couldn´t experience wealth and poverty at the same time and place
He doesn't remember any of his teachers names because he never stayed in one place more than a few months.
Also old, but I still remember the names of the teachers I loved and the ones I hated (and why I loved or hated them)!
Load More Replies...This is common for military kids. Air Force brat here. I only remember one teacher's name from elementary and only because she made a huge impact on a young kid who was dealing with her mom's cancer and fear of losing her...me.
It’s so cringy how you all say “brat” like this.
Load More Replies...military family so I can relate however my husband never spent more than a year at any school but never left the city they lived in. They just kept moving from one place to the other, only now being an adult he realizes why
we were completely Nomadic when I was growing up. I was 35 years old and on my second marriage when my wife explained to me you can renew a lease.
I remember all of my teachers' names and I am 75: Miss Clara West grades 1-3, Mrs. Arnold Moon grade 4, Mrs. Dottie Cooke grade 5 (and she is now a beloved friend), Mrs. Eloise Mosley grade 6, Mrs. McKay grade 7, Mr. Norwood grade 8, Mrs. Edith Favor grade 9, Mrs. Trask grade 10, Mr. Ed Bonville grade 11, Mr. Clifford Reynolds grade 12. In college: Dr. Randy Boehm, Dr. Eugene Andrews, Dr.Jim Frey, Dr. William Chaney, Mr. Cooper Phillip Speaks, (the best college professor EVER), Dr. Calista Olds, Dr. Milôs Strüpl, Mrs. Ursula Jones, Dr. Bill Curtis, Dr. Dosia Carlson, Mr. Hermann Wiebe. What a wonderful group, so talented and kind.
When we moved in together, I found out that she was putting her share of the rent on her credit card, with no real plan for how to pay it off.
Have you ever been in a position of not being able to pay rent? Of putting it on a card or being homeless? IT'S EASY TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE F-ING MONEY.
Load More Replies...I had a part time job (while looking for a full time job) and my ex was working full time; all my pay went to my share of the rent but I did the food shopping (while he was at work) but had to pay using my credit card - which I'd had for years and previously only used in emergencies - I'd have to ask him repeatedly for his half of the grocery bill. After about 6 months I told him I couldn't do the shopping this way anymore as the debt was growing too much and the stress was making me sick. Eventually I also told him he'd have to pay more towards our food bills- after much convincing by my Aunts' and Mum who watched him repeatedly eat 3/4ths to my 1/4th servings.
I have a credit card, I put a few items on it, and make sure I pay it off every month, this keeps your credit rating good. Credit cards are dangerous.
GF was told "get a credit card and improve your credit rating" but didn't tell her she had to make more than the minimum payment to do so. I hope she fixed things after I told her to pay it off each month. My only credit card gives a discount if paid off in time.
Load More Replies...I'm not familiar with places that allow you to pay rent on credit. Landlords usually have unbelievably antiquated systems and want cash or check.
Here you won't get a credit card unless you have a full time job and earn over about $800.
Usually pass a credit score to get one. Not always a good idea though
Load More Replies...Hmm, sounds like Daddy's Princess expected Daddy to pay the credit card bill, even after she moved out of the family home.
You can't assume these things... actually your comments are kind of gross and presumptuous. spoiled children are (usually) still bailed out as spoiled adults (take our previous US president for instance)... I worked for a TERRIBLE rich family, whose entitled 30 y.o. daughter constantly overdrafted her account and was bailed out, even tho she had a free job and high pay thru them that she did nothing at. If this person in the post was doing this, she likely came from a worse situation, had no where to turn, and felt ashamed. This is ACTUAL psychology. Someone who is spoiled, would have asked someone else to pay it.
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Long term dating. Pets. I was always surprised by the number of pets she and her family had living in the trailer and how much of a share of their income they spent on them.
If they were spending income on them at least that meant they were caring for them
It also means they have hearts that are bigger and richer than those of most wealthy people.
Load More Replies...Pets are INVALUABLE and we benefit so much more from having them and spending the money for food, vet etc.
Lice -- I had never experienced them (our kids got them from the inlaws)
I didn't know about Section 8.
I'd never heard of the Earned Income Credit (e.g. you get more back in taxes than you paid).
You go to the E.R. because you don't have insurance.
I've never heard of a school that hasn't had lice. I think money folks just keep it q secret because the stigma with it
Pretty sure that every child will have been to see Nitty Nora the Bug Explorer at some point in their school life.
Load More Replies...Fyi having lice bc of bad hygiene is a common prejudice and adds to the stigma. My sister had lice in Kindergarten and our mom went nuts over it, comparing her to me "the clean older sister" making her feel worse than it already is. I took her side and read aloud to mom from the lice shampoo's user's manual "and don't be too hard on the kid apparently having a bad hygiene. Remember parents: if your kid keeps a good hygiene then the lice just share that hygiene!" (Meaning anyone can get lice no matter the hygiene.)
Lice has zero to do with your financial situation. They are only attracted to clean scalps.
"You go to the E.R. because you don't have insurance." This is because if you petition for financial assistance, the ER can write off a significant amount of the charges (which are WAY overcharged to being with) and reduce or even eliminate your bill. Physicians and specialists cannot (or will not) do the same, so it ends up costing more to see a physician/family doctor without insurance than the ER...
Plus, they legally HAVE to see and treat you. Other departments don't have that obligation and can turn you away without insurance
Load More Replies...I'm not poor by any stretch of the imagination and my kids shower daily- they got lice. I was poor as a child and didn't get lice. I didn't even get lice when my kids got it. My mom tried pulling the "your kids got lice because you're filthy" crap with me which made me laugh. No- I didn't get lice because I'm genetically resistant to them, like my mom. All my friends and my kids and ill their friends have had lice, regardless of income bracket/ cleanliness.
Lice has ZERO to do with economic levels. It's attracted to CLEAN hair which, more often than not, are people with better economic standing as they can afford to have clean hair. Saying it's a poor person's disease is I'll informed and assine.
That is a US federal program for rental housing assistance for people with low incomes.
Load More Replies...I had to go to the ER once because no insurance, I had just lost my job and not found a new one yet, was was working a part time as a server. I just know I had bronchitis and a sinus infection. I couldn't afford a visit to the doctor, or those little clinics, so I just went to the ER because I knew they would bill me. I felt so stupid going to he ER for this, I just said my doctor told me to because they wouldn't be able to see me for a week.
My wife isn’t even significantly less wealthy than me or my family, but they were less stably middle class. She saves yogurt cups and butter jars etc as Tupperware. It drives me bananas. We make a 6 figure income in a lowish COL area.
I don't see why having money means you have to waste everything, a surprising amount of these are related to that
Yup, my family saves them as well so that you have food to take home after a family gathering.
Load More Replies...We reuse takeaway containers because it's good for the environment. Has nothing to do with money
Low cost of living, so perhaps a cheap suburb with small townhouses.
Load More Replies...She's actually doing a good thing by reusing plastics multiple times instead of throwing it out. She's supporting the environment.
My mother used to do that - save KFC containers "in case we need them". After she died my SIL cleared out the pantry (I was too much of a wreck to do it, bless her) and half the shelves were just KFC containers.
The stuff he buys, like, don't buy a $1.50 vegetable peeler because it'll break the third time you use it, duh. And if a pair of shoes is $19.99 then its because they're crap!
He buys so much stuff because it's cheap, he hasn't yet got the hang of 'quality over quantity'!
This only shows how little you've understood about how really expensive it is to be poor. Because you only have that $20 for shoes you end up buying new shoes every year instead of maybe every five or ten years line you could if you would afford shoes for 50 or maybe 70 dollars. It is not about not knowing about quality, it is about not affording it - and thus ending up paying even more for shoes in the end! And that habit might stay with you even after you get into money. Theoretically you know you should buy quality, but it is deeply rooted to look for cheaper stuff.
This person needs to read Sam Vimes' "Boots" Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness.
"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet."
When all you have is $20 for a pair of shoes, you do your best not to spend it all.
Not everyone HAS the money up front to buy better shoes-smaller amounts more frequently is how a lot of people live.
This is what I felt like my parents did. Buy stuff because it was cheep and you needed it now not when you had the money to buy a better version of it that would last longer. It took me several years to figure out that if I paid more for something it usually lasted longer. I spent a lot of money at Walmart, Garage, Zellers etc. By the time I was in my mid 20s I was buying under armor, Firefly, North Face. And by my late 20s I realized that even those were 'cheap' brands. I bought a new wardrobe of 5.11, smartwool, and icebreaker 4 years ago and haven't bought or needed to buy new clothes since, with a few exceptions
I grew up pretty poor, we lived in a garage when I was very young, with no hot running water or indoor bathroom, kerosene heater in the winter which we heated water and sometimes cooked on. It's had the opposite result for me. I am really concerned with quality because I can't easily replace items that I buy.
Yeah we have a saying that "poor people cant afford to buy cheap". But the sad reality is that its usually not possible to buy the quality stuff and you have to rely on the cheap stuff and end up spending more in the long rung.
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I was with a girl for a while who grew up in a pretty broken home. Still surprises me just how bad her spending habits are. She racks up credit card debt like its nothing.
That's not typical of being poor, most poor people know damn well what a bad idea it is to acquire debts you can't pay. Maybe she's just financially short-sighted.
Also, if one is considered poor, they don't manage money. The money is probably received then spent on bills and necessities so there's nothing left over to budget. Just saying from someone who was raised on Welfare and my mother never taught us about money. I learn the hard way on how to budget the money you make. Turned to Credit Counseling to get my debts paid and never, ever got into credit card debt again.
Load More Replies...Millions of people pretend to be rich by owning such stupidly expensive items. They aren't rich. It's the illusion. All credit cards
Like a $1,000 purse. OMG I could never even if I ever hit it rich
Load More Replies...Absolutely - she's substituting the emotional high of buying something brand new for the lack of love & support in her childhood.
Load More Replies...I grew up low middle class (enlisted military), but my husband grew up very poor. He was on his own and homeless by 14. He worked and went to school then joined the military. He never liked red meat because he hadn't tasted it until he was about 10. He won't eat minute rice either. We budget our money, but he goes out of his way to spoil the people that he loves. I have to tell him that I don't need anything because he constantly wants to give me things. He always overtips, gives to homeless/ charities, because at one time people gave to him.
You remind me of something I experienced often: My family never had much money and really struggled from time to time, but if there was a friend or family member struggling even more to an existential point, then they'd try to give a little bit (and if it was only a meal or clothes). Later in life I re-experienced it with friends and with my in laws. Sometimes it was only about 5 or 10 Euros to make a difference. And this is what we did and what others did for us. On the other hand side, some old friends of my husband who were not wealthy or something but never experienced struggling to pay for food or the like, never even thought about doing that. I don't know if it's because the amount or gesture is like nothing to them or because they simply didn't bother...
Load More Replies...Growing up me and my sister were well taken care of, but we were also pretty poor so my mom had to bend over backwards to make ends meet every moth. Often she would go and take bikerides by herself in the evenings for about an hour just to clear her head of all the worrying about money (I later learned this - my dad generated the income but my mom took care of finances). She taught me to save, always save money. I now have a pretty good financial buffer and a decent paying job, but every time I spend a sum of money on something for myself I feel awkward and decadent about it for weeks.
I've experienced some reasonable extremes of poverty and wealth. I'm nowhere near the richest I've been, but I'm comfortable enough now. But I have lived among people who truly had nothing and people who had everything, and I would choose the poorest of the poor every time as human beings (even though I wish they weren't so poor for their sake).
Same here. Altho I have known 1 or 2 wealthy people who were very decent humans - they didn't live high on the hog, and they contributed a lot to those who had less, both in money & in actual work on the streets.
Load More Replies...Does anyone else experience others putting them down for not being a materialistic person, or just being ok with existing and having what you need? I'm asking because lately I've noticed some of my close family telling me because I'm not into money and only desire to have no more than I need. They are saying I'm lazy and have no goals or ambition. Does anyone else experience this when it comes to financial situations?
Not sure if this is the same. I grew up poor so my only dream was getting out. I did, when I was fifteen ... and then I was lost. That was my only goal. I didn't realize I needed ambition too. Years later a "friend" asked if I'd been hunting, fishing, skiing, camping, surfing, etc. I said no. He said I was lucky to have no interests because then it was easy for me to save. All I heard was the insult, "You grew up so poor you never learned how to have fun."
Load More Replies...4 summers ago, my friends and I went to california and grand canyon for a road trip. Before we went to the grand canyon, we stopped in san diego for 5 days to stay with a friend. We made friends with someone and brought him with us to another friend's house who had a pool, open buffet, really nice place. We ate so much, swam, etc. Spent the whole day there. I thought wow it would be so nice to have a place like this and then our new friend said it would be nice to have any kind of place and that he's homeless. We were shocked. He didn't look homeless (no offense). I asked where he's living. He said in his car. He parked it two streets down so we wouldn't see it. He was trying to find work at the time. He used to work in a restaurant. I've had him on fb since. His recent post showed a picture of him and a gf with their new baby born.
My husband is, after 30 years, still surprised by the "culture clash" we have b/c he was raised very well-off and I was definitely not.
I grew up as upper middle class, though in my small hometown we were definitely considered well off. It wasn't till I moved away and into an apartment that I realized how out of touch I was. I didn't know how to do anything, I had no idea how to be an adult. He was easing by without struggle. I had my own big bedroom growing up, had food at my beck and call, my own bathroom and always took for granted that my electricity and water were running, I didn't know NOT having those was an option. He grew up the oldest of four siblings, a three bedroom house with only one bathroom, his dad made many questionable choices with the family money that often lead to electricity cut off, food rationing, ect. My husband now has a great paying job and we still have more money than his parents, while his youngest brother took over mortgage payments to make sure his mother has a roof over her head. Again, these are things I took for granted, I didn't know it could be taken away.
my ex was born in Germany in 1943. His hometown then became part of East Germany and for the next 7 years, most people there struggled with food shortages. Fast forward 40 years: the man is now a university professor but every time he goes to a restaurant, he piles tons of food on his plate, no matter how often he is told he can go back for seconds. Just can't beat the habit.
When my ex told me he grew up in a house with only one bathroom. My house had more bathrooms than people.
Huh. Most people I know have a home with 1 bathroom, that's standard even for middle calss homes. 2 bathrooms is exceptional. Must be a regional thing....
Load More Replies...I grew up low middle class (enlisted military), but my husband grew up very poor. He was on his own and homeless by 14. He worked and went to school then joined the military. He never liked red meat because he hadn't tasted it until he was about 10. He won't eat minute rice either. We budget our money, but he goes out of his way to spoil the people that he loves. I have to tell him that I don't need anything because he constantly wants to give me things. He always overtips, gives to homeless/ charities, because at one time people gave to him.
You remind me of something I experienced often: My family never had much money and really struggled from time to time, but if there was a friend or family member struggling even more to an existential point, then they'd try to give a little bit (and if it was only a meal or clothes). Later in life I re-experienced it with friends and with my in laws. Sometimes it was only about 5 or 10 Euros to make a difference. And this is what we did and what others did for us. On the other hand side, some old friends of my husband who were not wealthy or something but never experienced struggling to pay for food or the like, never even thought about doing that. I don't know if it's because the amount or gesture is like nothing to them or because they simply didn't bother...
Load More Replies...Growing up me and my sister were well taken care of, but we were also pretty poor so my mom had to bend over backwards to make ends meet every moth. Often she would go and take bikerides by herself in the evenings for about an hour just to clear her head of all the worrying about money (I later learned this - my dad generated the income but my mom took care of finances). She taught me to save, always save money. I now have a pretty good financial buffer and a decent paying job, but every time I spend a sum of money on something for myself I feel awkward and decadent about it for weeks.
I've experienced some reasonable extremes of poverty and wealth. I'm nowhere near the richest I've been, but I'm comfortable enough now. But I have lived among people who truly had nothing and people who had everything, and I would choose the poorest of the poor every time as human beings (even though I wish they weren't so poor for their sake).
Same here. Altho I have known 1 or 2 wealthy people who were very decent humans - they didn't live high on the hog, and they contributed a lot to those who had less, both in money & in actual work on the streets.
Load More Replies...Does anyone else experience others putting them down for not being a materialistic person, or just being ok with existing and having what you need? I'm asking because lately I've noticed some of my close family telling me because I'm not into money and only desire to have no more than I need. They are saying I'm lazy and have no goals or ambition. Does anyone else experience this when it comes to financial situations?
Not sure if this is the same. I grew up poor so my only dream was getting out. I did, when I was fifteen ... and then I was lost. That was my only goal. I didn't realize I needed ambition too. Years later a "friend" asked if I'd been hunting, fishing, skiing, camping, surfing, etc. I said no. He said I was lucky to have no interests because then it was easy for me to save. All I heard was the insult, "You grew up so poor you never learned how to have fun."
Load More Replies...4 summers ago, my friends and I went to california and grand canyon for a road trip. Before we went to the grand canyon, we stopped in san diego for 5 days to stay with a friend. We made friends with someone and brought him with us to another friend's house who had a pool, open buffet, really nice place. We ate so much, swam, etc. Spent the whole day there. I thought wow it would be so nice to have a place like this and then our new friend said it would be nice to have any kind of place and that he's homeless. We were shocked. He didn't look homeless (no offense). I asked where he's living. He said in his car. He parked it two streets down so we wouldn't see it. He was trying to find work at the time. He used to work in a restaurant. I've had him on fb since. His recent post showed a picture of him and a gf with their new baby born.
My husband is, after 30 years, still surprised by the "culture clash" we have b/c he was raised very well-off and I was definitely not.
I grew up as upper middle class, though in my small hometown we were definitely considered well off. It wasn't till I moved away and into an apartment that I realized how out of touch I was. I didn't know how to do anything, I had no idea how to be an adult. He was easing by without struggle. I had my own big bedroom growing up, had food at my beck and call, my own bathroom and always took for granted that my electricity and water were running, I didn't know NOT having those was an option. He grew up the oldest of four siblings, a three bedroom house with only one bathroom, his dad made many questionable choices with the family money that often lead to electricity cut off, food rationing, ect. My husband now has a great paying job and we still have more money than his parents, while his youngest brother took over mortgage payments to make sure his mother has a roof over her head. Again, these are things I took for granted, I didn't know it could be taken away.
my ex was born in Germany in 1943. His hometown then became part of East Germany and for the next 7 years, most people there struggled with food shortages. Fast forward 40 years: the man is now a university professor but every time he goes to a restaurant, he piles tons of food on his plate, no matter how often he is told he can go back for seconds. Just can't beat the habit.
When my ex told me he grew up in a house with only one bathroom. My house had more bathrooms than people.
Huh. Most people I know have a home with 1 bathroom, that's standard even for middle calss homes. 2 bathrooms is exceptional. Must be a regional thing....
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