50 Times Relatives Messed Up So Badly, They Got Ostracized By The Rest Of The Family
Unfortunately, just because someone’s a family member doesn’t instantly mean that they’re a kind, witty, and interesting person who you want to spend time with. There are plenty of bizarre, annoying, and even rude people living on our planet. And some of them (probably!) happen to be related to you in some way.
Nearly everybody has at least one person that the rest of their relatives all kind of avoid. The r/AskReddit community spilled the tea about who that person in their family is and what they did to get socially ostracized. Scroll down for their stories.
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Me- cuz I'm the only deaf member in the entire family and the only deaf guy in the town as well so there was almost no asl beside mom, aunt and older brother. Even so we didn't really talk like a family. So I grew up with minimal sign language, no asl for my bday, Christmas, Thanksgiving etc. I now see holidays as pointless and waste of time. My mom only FaceTimed me once in 13 years and that was to find out where my cousin were in the store I was with him at the time but yet FaceTimed my cousin and older brother frequently. Go figures. If you've got a deaf family member, it helps a lot learning asl and spending time with them. Don't leave them out.
It doesn't hurt to learn sign language even if you don't have a deaf family member or friend.
I agree with your comment! Learning sign can be used within the community & beyond.
Load More Replies...I'm sorry but your family is a bunch of jerks and all of your immediate family should have learned ASL to be able to communicate with you.
I can't really imagine this. When I started learning Japanese sign language, I literally didn't actually know anyone who was hearing impaired. I just wanted to say "excuse me" to the hearing impaired people I'd see every day on the train, and because of wearing masks for corona, they can't read my lips, so I thought: I learn to sign! Now it's my hobby.
oh damn, this is f..cked up I hope you have friends as a choice of family,cause these guys aren't worth the naming
That's sad. Even if they couldn't be bothered learning asl they could have learned the manual alphabet.
"Me - cuz I am deaf." *lol* I see what you did there! *reads further* Aww, man 😐
Just reading this makes me feel lonely, it's like an extra layer of silence. You are incredibly strong to have made it this far, I hope you can find an online community maybe?
Me. I used to try to help everyone when they needed it because I could afford to. Six years ago my wife had a ruptured brain aneurysm and two strokes. I needed help taking care of her. I never got the first offer of any help so on top of my twelve hour each day job I take care of her by myself. I think often of how I gave up so much for everyone else and got treated this way. They all have get togethers and vacations and things we never get invited to because she really is a handful. We just spend time with each other and our grown kids when we can and make the best of it. I do really get upset though because I am so tired and really could use a break but it is what it is. Thank you for listening.
Being a caregiver is torture wrapped in love. You do it for the people you love and you wouldn’t have it any other way but emotional torment of seeing the one you love and care for incapable of living a normal healthy life, of getting better is horrible. But there’s more. The emotional torment of looking at your own life, the life you miss out on, the physical work, the stress. Guilt and feeling ashamed for thinking that though you love them, it might be better if they died sooner. Tormented by feeling there is no way out because you love them.
“Torture wrapped in love.” I’ve never heard it so eloquently and precisely stated before. Thank you.
Load More Replies...I became disabled in November last year. This post really hits home. Everyone, except one great friend vanished. Myself and my husband would be lost without her, her mother and father. My husband is now my carer. Its emotionally draining for him so i try to give him a break as much as possible. Carers don't get enough praise or support. And most people suck!
I am sorry that people have deserted you EmAdoresHerKats?????? I hope these people realise how much of an amazing people you & your husband are truely are. Your great friend & her parents sound like angels. I'm a full-time carer for both of my aged parents & on top of that I'm a single mum that struggles already with mental health as well as other health issues. I noticed since I became a carer that my "friends" started to disappear. Now the only friends/aquaintances I do have are parents at my daughters school.
Load More Replies...Unfortunately you really find out who your friends really are when something like this happens and the same with family. You find out who the ones are that really care. I hope that some of these people start helping you soon.
If you are in the UK contact the NHS for respite care. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-care-and-support-guide/support-and-benefits-for-carers/carer-breaks-and-respite-care/
Respite care is available here in the US, but sadly, I'm sure there are many areas where it isn't.
Load More Replies...You have an e-army of Panda's standing shoulder to shoulder with you friend.
I have a really large family. We found out one brother was sexually assaulting our baby sister from when she was three until she was 14. She had told my mom. Mom did nothing. That brother has been pushed out by the 12 of us. My parents are dead to us too.
Or a fast moving car on a road next to and just enough over the zoo’s lion enclosure for him to fall into it “accidentally”. Whoopsie. Guess he should’ve tightened that seatbelt and made sure the car door was completely shut.
Load More Replies...The parents who know this shít is happening to their kids and do nothing are just as bad as the people actually doing it. Silence is 100% complicity in circumstances like this. As a parent your duty is to protect your kid from ANYONE who would do them harm - even from your other children, or your spouse, your parents.... Doesn't matter. And if you can't promise to do that you have no business being a parent.
What? Scratching my head here because wondering why this brother was only "pushed out"? What does that even mean here?? Why is he not castrated and why are not all of his bones broken?
Sometimes I truly wish that people had the right to dish out deserved punishments, without the courts. I agree with you, every bone broken, and in the most horrible way possible.
Load More Replies...Seriously so sad when the parents don't believe or don't do anything when they know. Makes my blood boil. Our babies are supposed to come to us and feel comfortable enough to tell us anything instead of being punished for it. When I finally said something about my uncle doing it to me for years and not just me, other cousins I was told I embarrassed the family. They were more concerned about their status and that my uncle got fired for it. My step daughter cane out as gay to me and my husband cause she feared what her mom would do or say, that little girl spills her guts to me cause I don't interrupt her, don't judge her, I let her vent. Her mom got so mad when my step daughter told her she talks to me alot and has since told my step daughter she's not allowed to speak to me about anything unless it's school smdh
Exactly! That's where he belongs. He is a rapist because the sister was well under the age of consent (did I get that right?)
Load More Replies...That "mother" is just as complicit as that piece of sh*t. You even THINK of touching any of the children in my life that way? I've a blowtorch and a drill ready and waiting for you... And I'm making no apology for this reply.
show me that man. I will RIP HIS F*****G SPINE OUT AND STAB HIM WITH IT (I'm really overprotective, my lil sis is only six)
I think the parents who know their child is being abused and do nothing are even worse than the abuser himself/herself
It doesn’t feel great to be excluded. We’re social animals, and we need positive relationships to thrive. However, not all relationships are equal. People who are constantly negative and stress us out have a negative effect on our lives. Naturally, everyone wants to spend more time with folks who energize them and boost their mood instead of those who drain them.
From a purely utilitarian perspective, you do not want to be the individual who gets ostracized. Being socially isolated and lonely wreaks havoc on a person’s physical and mental health. It increases the risk of developing serious life-threatening illnesses like heart disease, type 2 diabetes, depression, anxiety, and dementia.
In short, you want to put in at least some effort to be accepted by your social circle. If you’re constantly annoying everyone and making their lives hell, soon enough, you might find yourself completely alone. However, being alone is still preferable to being in social circles that consistently stress you out with negativity.
My aunt and uncle. After my mom died they took my grandma, got power of attorney over her life and wiped out her accounts within minutes of moving out of my dad’s house. Bought all their family members iPads for Christmas and let my grandma die in the garage in the middle of winter. I don’t care that they stole my inheritance—it wasn’t much—but I really miss my grandma to this day.
Financial abvse and negl3ct against elders should carry heavier punishments. This is abhorrent but happens more than we care to think
If it was possible I would get a lawyer and have them investigated and charged for that.
Their selfishness most likely overshadows their guilt :(
Load More Replies...I can only hope those despicable people suffer a worse fate in a Medicare nursing home
Holy f**k. I hope that went to court especially the neglect to the point of death part. That family deserves gaol time!!!
It was me. Once my mom passed away I wasn't spoken to for over 20 years. My crime? Refusing to be a racist bigot filled with hate for anything not white, straight and Christian.
I am happy with their decision.
Again, I absolutely hate these Christians who are also actively being racist, the exact opposite of the whole ideal. Who's gonna tell them that Jesus wasn't white?
My cousin was involved in organized crime and put his family through hell. We still kept him around for some reason. He was the charming, handsome, funny cousin. Everybody loved him.
Our grandma confronted him over him doing cocaine in the bathroom at our little cousins birthday. He snapped at her and viciously attacked her, breaking her nose, jaw, and two ribs. He then ran out of the house. My uncle and dad and cousin found him a few days later and beat him with an inch of his life, and then nobody ever spoke to him again.
He attacked Grandma????? He deserved to have the c**p beaten out of him for that!
"charming and funny" - until he didn't get his way and suddenly wasn't any more and snapped/showed his true colours. Gotta love 'em
I really hate that we live in a world where someone being a literal violent criminal is seen as more acceptable than someone being gay, trans, etc. To the point that a violent criminal only gets cut out of the family if they get caught physically injuring someone in the family.
so many things to unpack... *steps away from suitcase* anyone wanna do the honour of unpacking it all??
Not without body armour and updated health insurance..and a psychologist on speed dial
Load More Replies...The New Yorker writes that in some circles there’s an effort to destigmatize estrangement. The idea is that by making the idea of cutting unhealthy people out of your life less taboo, you’re essentially creating a better environment for yourself. There’s a trend among young people who are increasingly cutting their parents out of their lives. Some are very happy that they no longer have to deal with family drama during holiday get-togethers.
However, some researchers believe that what’s happening is a continuation of what’s always been happening: cutting people out is nothing new, and we’re simply more transparent when it comes to talking about it now.
Me.
I got sick with Crohns non diabetic LRP and can't walk. It's crazy how fast your friends and family abandon you when you can't go out like you used to.
Being called a hermit only salts the wound. Went from a national qualified runner and athlete to being sick is apparently a choice.
Some of my family say that if I were closer to God, I wouldn't be so sick. If only it was that easy.
It wasn't even like it happened over a long period, either. Prior to 2020, I was walking , working ,eating, and socializing.
I'm lucky I have a saint for a wife, so I manage. It just surprised me how fast everyone dropped me. Some people have no idea how to deal with illness when it affects their loved ones and friends.
I totally understand this! I have fibromyalgia, arthritis, CIPN, spinal stenosis and several other issues. Went from a huge circle of friends to very few. It got even smaller when I got breast cancer. But it does show you who really cares.
Yaaaaay fibro friend. It's rough and most people don't. get it (or even try to). So sorry that you have everything else on top of a debilitating condition. PM if you would like to talk! 🤗
Load More Replies...Most people have absolutely no idea whatsoever about how a disease affects people.
If you were closer to god? WTAF! Do they mean an actual saint or do they mean gone! I hate it when people being religion in to anything when it's not welcome
Yeah, I guess all the sick kids at St Jude's should have been closer to god.
Load More Replies...This happened to my husband. When he got sick he actually had someone he worked with go to HR and say they were uncomfortable being the in the office with him in case he had a seizure. They made him work from home & eventually phased his position out but paid him a severance. We were too new to him being disabled to know our rights He wound up totally disabled & everyone including his own mother distanced themselves. It's not an easy life but we manage.
The family was only sticking around OP when they were healthy because they were an athlete, and the family could brag about them and bask in some reflected glory. Now that OP is no longer a nationally qualified athlete, they’ve dropped them. Such fair weather family “closeness” is typical sycophantic behavior; practically smothering them in attention while they’re on top, and totally abandoning them the millisecond they’re down. Not the way families ideally should be, but at least OP now knows who their true friends, family, and loved ones are——and who doesn’t qualify for that list.
This so much. I went from being an ex competitive swimmer and extremely active to being disabled. I lost a quite a few "friends" while I was dealing with not only my sudden disability but also I'd been seriously ill with Covid while learning to walk again with calipers, crutches and dealing with the court cases against my violent ex all at the same time. Me - "Really? YOU can't deal with it? How do you think I'm feeling?"... Plus side though? I've a very tight knit circle of friends. Mainly online but known each other for years. Two that if I'm ever stuck? Are more than willing to help me in person and they're all my Rocks.
"If YoU wErE cLoSeR tO gOd" first of all, shut up, sickness isn't a thing you can prevent by being part of an extremist cult. As a Christian, if someone got sick it's not because they worship the devil. I hate when people have this mindset and call themselves Christian because that's the exact opposite of the Christian ideal
In our experience there are two main factors in this kind of ostricism. First is that they don't know what to say. They're afraid of saying the wrong thing so they say nothing. Second is they're afraid it's catching. It's sounds ridiculous but people want reasons for things, and when there isn't one (like getting Crohns) people think, "if it could happen to him, it could happen to me". It's an uncomfortable feeling and most people can't deal with it. It sucks, and it really does show you who your friends are.
My uncle. He is the stereotypical loser, racist homophobe who think gas chambers never existed and that homosexuals Jewish people secretly rule the world. No wonder nobody wants to speak to him.
With this explanation I would also hate to be the model on the photo to represents the person described.
Sadly there are too many of this type around - the added sadness is that by flatly rejecting so many people, they miss out on so much of the wonderful variety of life.
My cousin refers to ethnic minorities with slurs and, when I was in India (a country she's never visited), sent me a long rant about how all Indians smell. She used words like, "stink", "stench." Nothing I told her, while I actually was in India, could convince her otherwise. The corker is that she's a Justice of the Peace and sentences people who are ethnic minorities.
It was me, and it was because of my drinking.....
Coming up on 5 years sober, and it took 3 years of sobriety just to get invited to Christmas...so next Christmas will only be like the second I've gotten the invite to in 15 years or so...
Took my sister aside last weekend to give her an apology for all that time, and sorry that I was never an uncle to her kids, they're all grown now, so can't change that, but I am sorry the bottle was more important than everything, and everyone during that time, I lost everything...
A lot of what, and who I lost I'll never be able to get back in my life.
Congratulations on being sober! And I'm glad you are trying to apologize to those you hurt. It's a big step!
Maybe, but maybe it doesn't help. My dad once tried this, had been doing AA for a few years, actually said "I want to be the father I wasn't when you were young". NO, sod off, you were a crappy alcoholic sleazebag who didn't give a shít about me when I was a kid, why should I give you the time of day now in my 30s? Alcoholism, however much you may think of it as a disease, does not excuse shítty behaviour. Not at the time, not after the fact and not twenty years later.
Load More Replies...Alcoholism is a terrible disease. Congratulations on being strong enough to fight it!
I hope you're able to practice self-forgiveness. Addiction is a disease, and the symptoms can include antisocial and destructive behavior (I know, I'm also in recovery-8 years. I went back to school when I had a year clean and became an addiction counselor). The past can't be changed. But I've found that the experiences I've had (homelessness, incarceration, isolation, suicidal ideation, and a sense of deep sadness, fear, and self hatred) are priceless when helping other people in recovery. Your past was painful and it sounds like you have shame around it. You also have a great deal of wisdom not a lot of people have, even if you don't realize it yet. You're also amazing for getting and staying clean and sober! That takes courage and dedication. Hang in there. courage
But he got his family back. congratulations on being sober!
You get to accept that and you can be oké again. If everybody knows you are sorry, you can stop saying it and move on. The past is gone and you heve to go forwards, people will see you for who you are now. It can take years for that, but it will be oke again.
This depends, is rather be drunk at the pub at Christmas then with my family.
According to the founder of the nonprofit estrangement group Stand Alone, Becca Bland, it can be healthier for people to have a life beyond their family relationships. They can create a new sense of family with their friends.
Kristina Scharp, a director of the Family Communication and Relationships Lab at Rutgers University and Michigan State, told The New Yorker that people tend to look at someone who goes no-contact with family members differently than those who cut ties with, say, a bad partner.
“We’re told things like ‘Blood is thicker than water’ and ‘A family is forever.’ So, if you have a happy family, it’s really hard to imagine estrangement.” Forgiving family members doesn’t always happen. It all depends on how the person who cut them out feels about the entire situation.
Me. My sister went public with the abuse that was done to us as kids and the family members who did it in 2022. At age 13 and again at 15, she did try and get police involved, but the mother of the cousin that was harming us was friends with many people in the department (and is married to one now) so my sisters story was never believed. We suffered very awful abuse for roughly 6 years. My mother was informed, an aunt, our grandmother, and police, yet our mom still took us to that aunts house so she could enjoy her time with her husband without her 2 daughter around. We never received justice. Today, our family has shunned not only her, but I as well. They still have ALL of the abusers in their close circle and to this day no one from the family believes us despite injuries being shown over the years. My sister is now 5 months clean from her d**g addiction as a result of our upbringing. I turned out alright I guess currently in therapy and working through everything. But yeah f**k my family. 😂.
How can you do such things to your own blood? In fact, to anyone, there is a special place in he---11 for those, I hope they suffer before they get there.
It's so unbelievable how mutch family can hurt each other. They rather look away than go for a change, it is way easyer to do so. Even with abuse so terrible, children get (almost) killed.
Congratulations to your sister and I hope you both manage to stay strong
Sat in a courtroom 18 months ago with a victim's family during the trial for their SA. Grandparent of the victim and the perpetrator chose to sit on the wrong side of the room. The perpetrator's side was absolutely full. The victim's side was not. A*user walked free not because the victim wasn't believed, but because "there wasn't enough evidence." The extended family likes to pretend nothing is wrong, Grandmother is still at all family events. The victim's family walked away (I'm beyond proud of them). Sadly this isn't our first rodeo. And they wonder why we're NC.
Me and it's because I'm transgender. The only members of my (large) biological family who will acknowledge that I exist are my half great uncle and his wife, my mom, and my gay cousin. They literally pretend like I don't exist. They can go to hell though, I'm better off without them.
Baffles me that this is going on in 2024. But then again, hateful theists and haters are not so nice..
Load More Replies...Family is who you choose it to be. Sharing DNA with someone doesn't mean you have to like them. If they treat you like dirt, then cut them off and move on. You deserve to be happy!
Over many years I have known people of pretty much every identity and gender, as a gay man in the 80s it was difficult but we had a community that all looked after each other regardless of how different we might have been as individuals. The trans community seems to be going through a stormy and isolating period at the moment which I don't really understand, it's not as if there are millions of trans people trying to take over the world - everyone just wants to live their lives like regular people. You're right, if people refuse to accept you as they are then you don't have to accept them either, it works both ways. You don't say your age, but I am going to guess that you are quite young. i have trans friends now in their late 60s and over 70 that found the 'quiet life' with good friend around them and settled relationships. It may take some time and some searching but I hope you can discover a way to just 'be' without rejection and judgement. Good luck.
I hope you find your true family (a tribe who will love and accept you for who you are).
The same thing happened to me, at this point the only family member who will talk to me is the only other member of my extended family who is also trans. Far too many people really do only love their version of "you' and are more than willing to drop you like a hot potato made of dog poop the moment you become something they aren't instantly comfortable with. Thank goodness I have my wife, my large friend circle, and my wife's family.
If you're in the US, come to the west coast (the best coast) and we'll love and accept you here. Bring your good family members too, leave the jerks in Ohio or whatever.
I'm a straight male and I'm better off without people like that!
Big mum hug to each and every child of any age who needs one. I have 5 nieces by blood 2 by 2nd marriages, 2 nephews ans 2 great nephews by2nd marriages 2 are gay 1 is bi 1 has bpd 1 has adhd 1 has asd I LOVE and am auntie to them all and you better believe that outside of any of them purposely hurting a child or animal they know my house is a safe space for each and every one of them whenever it may be needed x
My sister. She went religious zealot on us, especially against my brother who’s gay, and we all sided with him. It was crazy. She was completely normal one day, falls in love with a Christian worship leader, then the next day she believes our brother is going to hell. What a hill to die on.
When somebody goes from 0 to 1000 with any religion that fast there is some mental to problems somewhere.
Or addiction. I've seen it multiple times where people will go from one extreme to the next.
Load More Replies...Half my family is Jehovah's Witness. We don't talk to them. Especially after they disfellowshipped and disowned my mother.
You can call it what it is: “shunned” If anyone is interested in the absolutely abusive & evil that goes on within this particular magic sky god cult, there’s a great podcast called…”shunned”
Load More Replies...Thou shall not judge lest though be judged. In whatsoever manner ye judge, so shall you be judged. Basically, fine, judge law breakers, murderers, rapists, paedophile, BUT do not claim anybody is going to hell that has not caused harm to another such as exampled. You are then at risk of facing that same judgement because you have failed to love your fellow man and woman. Unless you are God, leave that judgement c**p alone, you are not worthy to do so, simples.
Had a cousin who was raised Muslim, they weren't super religious they went to mosk every so often didn't eat pork etc. he wore that like a badge of honor it made him different being half Egyptian and he was proud of his heritage. Flash forward to when he leaves his metropolitan city for a small town state School in North Dakota, suddenly this badge he wore was not popular with people, someone carved Muslim go home on his dorm room door. He quickly abandoned that Egyptian half and met some hyper radical Christian woman got married with in a year of meeting her, and now is such a hard core evangelical Christian he is insufferable to be around, his dad won't really talk to him because he feels like he abandoned him for convenience. It really rubbed me the wrong way when he started sending me Jesus literature in the mail, I'm an atheist but I was raised super Catholic so I'm well aware of the news. Some people just change super hard super fast to cope with being out grouped.
I have never understood how anyone can abandon everything that is genuine to themselves, just because they start dating someone. I am not that much of a chameleon to even want to assume someone else’s personality, or become what they try to make me be. Especially because he’s a “Christian worship leader”—-RED FLAG—-one has to suspect he’s manipulative and is turning OP’s sister into HIS vision of what she should be, not HER vision of what she really is. I’m sorry, but I would rather live by myself the rest of my life than totally change myself out of desperation to have a boyfriend/husband, especially if that person requires me to be something I’m not, which also alienates me from my family and friends. Part of an abuser’s tactics for isolating someone from their support groups, like family and friends, is making them burn those bridges themselves through their newly acquired behavior that the abuser manipulated them into. That way the abuser can gaslight them into blaming themselves for it, not the manipulation they were experiencing. Hope OP and their family finally see this for what it really is, and can get Sister away from her boyfriend.
Have you ever cut off ties with a relative, dear Pandas? Is there a person who your entire family seems to avoid? What did they do to get pushed away? What do you think they’d need to do to get back in everyone’s good graces?
If you feel like opening up, we’d love to hear about your experiences in the comments section at the bottom of this post.
My uncle got his son's girlfriend pregnant.
We've always hated the guy for reasons I won't get into but this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
If it was consensual, then she is one also. If it wasn’t consensual, then he’s a double sleaze bag who belongs in jail.
Load More Replies...your cousin dodged a bullet here. Got rid of two toxic people ,cause apparently his fianceé wasn't forced to this. Hope he have found a better partner
What is with these parents🤮 of all the people in the world to sleep with ugh
The uncle got her pregnant? So it was all him? The girlfriend wasn't involved with the process of getting pregnant?
I know a deadbeat guy who got his GF pregnant, they were broke oi moved into his MIL house where is GF half sister also lived. Withing a year he got MIL and half SIL pregnant. So father, uncle and grandfather all at once. Last time I heard they were all living happily on benefits and dealing.
I'm the only one who talks to my cousin. She came out as pansexual a few years ago (her spiteful ex actually outed her toher parents), and sadly my Asian family is extremely homophobic. Sadly I'm her only support and ally.
If she needs family, I'm happy to be a surrogate family member. My oldest is bi-sexual and my youngest is pansexual & uses he/him pronouns. As long as they are happy, that's all that matters. And that's all that should matter to anyone else!
"Sadly I'm her only support and ally." Or looked at another way, they're fortunate to have your support. Thanks for being there for your cousin.
Awe. I hope she has some good friends along with you. People and beliefs.
LMAO, some people really are narrow minded. You're telling me if you're a straight male you'll take ANY woman over perhaps a certain guy? 👀
Recently my dad. He slept with my sister’s fiancé (M). My sister is pregnant.
Well, that’s kind of how closeted situations were back in the 50s. No one could come out, so folks just had lots of affairs on the DL. Sorry this happened to the sister of the OP. And, at the same time, a good thing to discover BEFORE saying, “I Do…”
Me.
Because I'm an atheist.
Entire family is Southern Baptist.
They probably wrongly assume as an atheist that you worship the devil. I'm agnostic, myself, and people think that of me. People need to school themselves.
The only people who believe in the devil, are the christians.
Load More Replies...Because it is not the religion (or absence of) the problem, but the tribe: like a son who dislike football (soccer) or a daughter who doesn't want to marry the chosen one, he is upsetting the things that, for them, keep the family together. Christ is the last of their problems
Load More Replies...Well that sucks... My mum ever said if I were ever to become atheist (Im not, I love Islam), she would accept it as my decision and not disown me and still love me unconditionally. just that shed feel really bad for me and wouldnt support my atheisim. All parents should be like that
I am also atheist but sometimes I feel like taking up satanism just to spite these people.
There are plenty of atheist/freethinker/humanist organizations around the world, and even in the southeastern US. You should be able to find an atheist Meetup in your area.
I'm going to sound really bigoted when I say this but... This problem is a mostly Christian problem. I been to a church that believed that only Christianity is the religion, and all others spawn from the devil... I'm a Buddhist BTW. Also seen my Christian wife got stopped by someone from "The Church of God" proclaiming that only their branch of Christianity is the true Christianity. Needless to say, I'm so repulsed by religious Christians now
Just because someone is religious, it doesn’t mean they’re a good person let alone are getting into heaven.
To me, I find that most who claim to be atheist are actually anti religion, or more specifically anti church. That isn't saying you are, but it is worth saying here.
I'm an atheist and I'm not anti. I'm just not interested. Christianity and religion in general is not such a big deal in New Zealand. Of course there are religious groups and Christianity here, but its not shoved down anyone's throat and people don't walk around professing their love for jesus or whoever it is they worship
Load More Replies...Good for you, but you also didn't have to tell them. Your family has already proven to be dumb so you have lied to them and just keep living life your life.
Me, I'm the one relative.
I choose not to keep in touch with my family, because I don't want someone constantly asking me for money or to take care of their children.
You have every right to say "NO!" You are not their babysitter or cash cow. You are well within your rights to have nothing to do with toxic family members.
As stated, it is common, but it would be much better if you were able to handle these social situations without being antisocial.
My mother and sister have slowly but surely managed to destroy every relationship with anyone. My sister (44f) has been relying on my mother's pension for herself and her (16m) son. When mum dies, so does the pension and my brother cuts her off. She thinks we're bluffing.
I don't mind people asking me for money or to babysit. I've got nothing else going on. Have you (or people in a similar position) tried explaining that perhaps their company is the most important aspect of the relationship and you'd like to spend time with said person?
My mom is the person in her family, but it's not because she's a bad person or she has issues with substance abuse. The majority of her family just doesn't like who she loves. Her family is very white, and my dad, brother, and I are black. I have a Latino uncle, but they're fine with him. Some of my family don't care, namely a couple cousins, but I haven't spoken with any of my aunts or uncles in almost 16 years.
You are better off without them if they want to be like that. I read another story this morning about a little girl that is biracial. Her father is black and mother is white and loves her curly hair and doing her hair. The white Grandma talks about how it would look better straight. The mother was called into work on a day off and Grandma said she would watch her. When the lady got to her parents house her b***h mother had SHAVED her 5 yo daughters head so that she is completely bald. After she got home sle called the he police and had her mother arrested for it. Her mother is telling the family it was a only a haircut and it will grow back straight. This girls family is mad at her but they don't know the who truth of what was done to the little girl. She should take a picture and send it to everybody to show them that socalled haircut.
In my book, that's assault, never mind the racist element! I hate people sometimes.....
Load More Replies...I find it really interesting when racists are racists against only certain shades. brown people are fine, meaning Latinos, indigenous, Indian, ex. but black people?!? oh hell no! where is that line in their head? why is that the line? what makes that a difference? so odd.
Latino does not mean brown. Someone can be very white and Hispanic. There are plenty of Hispanic people that are white, blond and have green or blue eyes.
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My aunt.
She tried to take the car my grandmother left in her will to me from me.
This happened literal minutes after my grandmother passed. We were still in the room with my grandmother. .
When my grandmother passed, they tried to railroad my mom into purchasing her house at an inflated cost. They were so confident it would happen, they already started spending her share of the inheritance money. When the house sold for WAY LESS, they had to cut her a bigger check.
Same happened to my spouse - his older brother tried to get the car keys while everyone was still at the hospital after the death, but my father-in-law had secretly changed the car title a couple of weeks before into my spouses name. Scumbag brother had the guts to ask us for money a couple of years later. didn't happen.
Within the week of my mother dyeing, my brother was going around to museums claiming only for himself things she had loaned to them. Then later giving them away to others with no regard to my sister or myself.
My sister's live far away so it took them a day to come when my mother died. She found time to get an estimate on how mucho mum's house was worth. We were leaving the funeral and she was on the phone with the estate agent.
My moms brother lol he cheated on his wife (we still talk to her) They divorced, he kidnapped their 2 kids and took them to Singapore for years, then took them on a house boat off the coast of Mexico for a while, and meanwhile was scrutinizing my aunt for “being a bad mom”, Shes a wonderful cheerful cute Swiss woman.Because we still talk to her, he refuses to talk to anyone. We don’t really care.
She has full custody of the kids now in Switzerland :).
But how long they suffered elsewhere, and how screwed up are they now?
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My uncle Greg. His Alzheimer’s dementia is so bad he doesn’t recognize anyone in his family anymore and visiting just scares and confuses him because it’s out of his routine.
It’s really sad because we do miss him. It’s sad to know the next time we see him won’t be until his funeral.
My friend's mother lives in a constant state of terror. Horrible disease all around.
I'm probably gonna get down voted but I see it as cruel to force such people to stay alive. They're brains have turned to putty, they can't do anything for themselves, they can't remember or enjoy family and friends as they use to....and in the US, most the states are so fukcing backwards that they can't comprehend the torture they're forcing this person to go through cuz "This is God's plan". Legalize self euthanasia!!
This is not really outing someone per se, but for their mental being. And sadly, I agree with OP and understand the sadness of missing them.
To be fair, however, when my Grandmother got the disease, I too stopped visiting after a certain point. It was hard to watch her stress out over trying to remember me. I couldn't keep doing that to her.
People talk about how awful cancer is, and it definitely is awful. But the horror of dementia is even worse. I watched both my grandparents descend into it. That loss of self, of everything that makes you YOU, it's just...idk that there's an awful enough word for it.
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i am terrified of either of my parents getting any significant degree of dementia
I stopped speaking to my older sister because she is a holier than thou judgmental miserable b***h. I have spoken to her once in 4 years and that was when I answered the phone in my Mom’s ICU room. I told her if she wanted to say goodbye she should get there. She did not. Mom died a few days later and as far as I’m concerned my older sister died that day too. I will never speak to her again.
I know that feeling. My mother said for years that if she was ever really sick she didn't want my sister who lives on the other side of the country to know anything about it or when she died. She got her wish, somehow she found out 2 years later and I sent her a letter with a cashier's check with her half of our mother's retirement for the month that she died and what was left to her in the will and that I had done as she had asked
We don't get to pick the families we're born in to. However, we do get to create the ones we want. I did the same with my older sister, she was lucky I spoke to her as long as we did, she was abusive and tried to take me out when we were kids. And, the abuse carried on into our 30's. I finally had enough, told her about herself, and never looked back.
I have 2 younger sisters and they are both toxic AF. Just really horrible human beings. My only brother & I are completely NC with them.
i feel this. i haven't talked to my sister in years. she is a narcisist and in her little world everybody owes her everything. she constantly spends money that she should not, moves house every 2-3 years and keeps asking for money. the last straw was when she sent me a text saying that she is doing everything for our mother and i always find a way to dodge gatherings and so on. i have a very demanding job, i have to plan my holidays a year in advance and have to work on weekends and overnight. i talk to my mom 1-2 times a week on the phone and when i have free time i visit her. she is totally fine with it. but not according to my sister, so f**k you.
I'm that family member. I called CPS on my fam, so I get it.
I went to see a school counselor after my dad beat me up. Nothing was ever done to him because it wasn't considered a big thing then. I had to remind my mom and brothers that he'd be in jail if he did to me today what he did to me then. Amazing how some families normalize extreme physical abuse.
Yes. When you (my brother) and your Fiance continue to pull out guns and knives on each other. I called the Cops. Enough was enough. The 5-year old has no say -- Guess what I have -- SAY.
I’m pretty sure my brother has k*lled people, among other serious (maybe more serious) crimes. Legally there’s nothing I can do. What evidence I know the police and FBI also know. I have a restraining order against him and moved as far away as I can. One day he’ll finally go down for a crime and there’ll be a Netflix special on him and they’ll ask why the family was complicit as if we could stop any of this.
Genocide, rape(?), torture, torture combined with killing,
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Me because I removed myself from the cycle of using me as the black sheep. It turns out I do have a line and they danced across it.
Same. My entire family has lived in the same 25 mile area for as far back as we can find ancestry. I hated where I grew up. I hated the small town mindset, the camouflaged racism, and the need to "keep up appearances." When it was time for University, I left. And never went back (unless it was to visit). They have never forgiven me, and have spent more then two decades holding it against me. Their disdain for my need to spread my wings only solidifies my need to.
Same here. I do miss some of my extended family but they would be flying monkeys if i kept seeing them. My life is drastically better, so, you win some, you lose some.
Dealing with this now. My Parents were so focused on me that they just ignored my younger Siblings. BOTH have lost Custody of their child/ren -- Guess WHAT -- NOT me the one they were so focused on. I find it both Interesting and Sad at the same time.
Me. I objected to being bullied by my sister. They all said I was too sensitive and that she had the right to bully me because she's the older one. I stopped speaking to them all once I was told that I don't deserve to be treated with respect.
Waited until my sixties to finally go completely NC with my sister, and it was the best thing ever! She has bullied me all of my life. When she started inviting my son, my mother to get togethers but never me, I had enough. Some people are just mean, and awful individuals.
Excuse me? The "right" to bully you? What kind of nonsense talk is that?
Stuff them- and good on you for going no-contact. Family are the people who treat you with love and respect!
Me. Because I cut ties with my parents, brother, and sister in law because they are toxic, manipulative people who were destroying my mental health.
I have been no contact for years and have not missed any of them even once.
Good for you. Just because they're family doesn't mean you have to put up with their s--t.
Idk. When someone says EVERYONE else is toxic and manipulative but doesn’t go into detail, makes me wonder if they’re not actually the one who’s a little off. “Destroying their mental health,” but no details? This might just be a narcissist who is upset their family didn’t bend to them.
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It's me.
Im dating a guy (I'm a guy), and the last thing anyone in my Catholic/conservative family can do is talk, so I'm building my own life.
I've learned it's better that way anyway.
I had to do the same - it worked out fine! I hope your found family will be as much fun as mine.
Someone is downvoting supportive replies... I've upvoted in retaliation...
i'm preparing to come out to my parents (devout christians) as pan and he/they, so I kinda see it. warmest regards
*hugs if okay?* And I hope it goes well! ... I'm here if needed though as I'm sure others will be too
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Me. They kept stealing from me, using me for free food, transportation, labor, treating me like s**t, and being patronizing as f**k. I cut them all out.
My found family loves me very much, and treats me with respect. They've never stolen from me or try to use me to get stuff or do stuff for them. My daughter is growing up with loving, supportive people who nurture and protect her, instead of a bunch of grifters who would exploit her as a resource for money and labor while gaslighting her into believing she's incompetent and stupid.
One of my sister's only calls me when she needs cash. She had the cheek to lecture me on money when I used the excuse that I am broke not to go to a family reunion. I wasn't I went to 5 festivals that year and bought a new car. She also tried to get me to change mortgage because she got kick backs from the bank for bringing clients. She also borrowed 3K euros from my mum before mum died and thinks I don't know. I had to take mom to back. She never mentioned it when we split the inheritance.
My brother. Married a lunatic and was an a*****e to my mom during her chemo. The b****s mom had the audacity to make a comment about how much my mom attended church at her memorial service and asked the preacher to reconsider doing the ceremony. Hopefully their god forgives them, because I never will.
Holier-than-thou “Christians” are undoubtedly the most hypocritical creatures in existence.
I am not a believer BUT forgiveness from whichever God isn't enough unless forgiven by those you hurt and I think that should be the standard belief or teaching in any religion.
Yo somebody died, let's get the holier than thou out of the daily conversation.
Me! Because I escaped to the opposite coast 50 years ago, and the *one* that isn’t dead is on my permanent no-talk sh**list.
I am so happy to have left this family behind. The only one I cared about was my mom, and I know she envied (not in a bad way) the fact that I chose freedom over conformity.
I wish she had, too. But she was trapped.
If this resonates with anyone, remember that *you don’t have to love emotional abusers.* **Run away!**.
My Aunt. When one of my uncles passed away my other aunts and uncles (besides this one aunt) decided to give their piece of the inheritance to the one uncle who basically sacrificed his whole life to take care of the uncle that passed. The uncle that passed got into a horrible motorcycle accident at the age of 20. He was paralyzed from the neck down and could not eat on his own, nor go to the bathroom and he could barely speak. And on top of this he would wake up every day not remembering anything past the day he got into the accident. My other uncle had to explain to him and comfort him every day with the reality of what happened to him. From 20 until he passed in his late 40s my other uncle cared for him. This one Aunt did not want to give her part of the inheritance and took legal action and was horrible to the whole family because she wanted what she wanted. It is a shame.
Not greedy. It is her money, to do with as she wishes. You could argue that the carer uncle deserved her share, but not that she was obligated to give it to him on pain of excommunication
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Me. My mother is perpetually miserable, has narcissistic tendencies and is an emotional vampire.
Me putting up healthy boundaries amounted to betrayal in her eyes. As a result, she told me not to come to her funeral when she dies.
Say less. Have a nice life. POS.
You should attend her funeral in a fluorescent orange suit and smile all the way through the service.
My uncle. He stole tens of thousands of dollars from my grandmother while she was dying of cancer, defaulted on business agreements with my father, and then disappeared.
There’s a lot more to this, but for the sake of brevity and not being *too* specific, we’ll leave it at that.
That‘s me. Because I was abused from age 11 to 17 by my sisters husband (18 years older than me) and after 40 years of playing it down to myself and keeping silent (and becoming an alcoholic, and several years of therapy) I finally broke my silence. Shame of the family, where everything that‘s not perfect has to be swept under the rug.
Sadly, it's rapidly becoming the Trump supporting BIL and his family. We don't really care about their politics, but they insist on pushing them on everyone, inserting them into conversations etc.
They've ruined family holidays over it bc they explode if anyone ever tries to point out that facts don't align with their opinions, and that words like "socialist" don't mean what they keep insisting they mean.
Frighteningly common experience here now. It's like a disease the way it spreads. Only choice is to cut off the limb to save the (family) tree.
When these people say "socialist", they mean government programs that help people who don't look like them.
My brother and brother-in-law tried to inject politics in the conversations and I just ignore it because my brother isn't all I have left
I wish there were intervention groups for the tRump cultists like we used to see on afterschool specials. Where loving family would hire someone to kidnap the family member in a cult and reprogram them!
I've had to cut off an uncle and a few cousins. They went rabid. It's their whole identity. Rather sad.
That's the stupidest $hit, as if a normal, thinking individual is not capable of making up their own mind regarding political stuff. I found that the best way (for me) to deal with the onslaught of unwanted "info" is to tell them upfront and with no wiggle room. I have my beliefs and my mind will not be changed by a talking orange who spews hate and rancor, save your breath or the party will be down one person.
I just don't even engage them anymore. It's like some type of mental illness or brain fog.
It's a cult. 100%. Think about it. It wasn't that long ago that if you supported a certain candidate, you'd put a singular sign on your lawn, or a bumper sticker on your car. You didn't see people with twenty different Bush signs and hats and tshirts. It's a cult for people who've had everything handed to them their whole lives and yet think they're oppressed.
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Me. I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness and most of my family are witnesses so when I decided I no longer wanted anything to do with the cult I was basically cut off. Mother does small talk even though I’d prefer complete silence from her, brother is an a**hat/POS so I don’t bother with him. Dad is the only one I have no problem with/he has no problem with talking to.
I think the photo is wrong, but maybe it is just my impression and the JW changed their ways recently
It's quite wrong. That photo is almost certainly Catholic. (Possibly Anglican or High Lutheran.)
Load More Replies...Jehovah Witnesses is a cult. As is the Mormon 'church', and Scientology. You know how you can tell? Members are told to shun anyone who leaves. Family, friends, anyone who leaves are shunned by those who stay, no matter the relationship. That's how you can tell it's a cult.
Is that what it comes to, the church is more important than your family or loved ones?
They are one of those cults that likes to control your whole life. Only jobs acceptable are from other JW. Those jobs pay as much as a degree job but usually dont have any training that would be relevant if you had to gwt hired somewhere else, and all your references are JW. Only housing you should rent or buy through other JW. Shunning isn't just having your family ignore you, they nuke your livelihood and place to live as well after making it to where you are used to a lifestyle you can not obtain without the church.
Speaking as a former JW, none of that is true. People are encouraged to help other JWs but you work for whomever and live wherever. They are still f****d up in many ways, but not for those reasons.
Load More Replies... Me. Not cool with pretending I wasn't beat pretty bad.
"We didn't know better," just is too hard to accept.
My mom: "I would never stay with a man who would hit me!" Then she watches her husband beat up on their kids and doesn't say a word.
Trauma dump? My "mother", adoptive mother which is important to note... She used to beat me with a meter ruler from when I was small, 4yrs old onwards... The very last time she did it? I grabbed it while screaming and then I broke it against the doorframe she used to use to hit me against. She cried as though she was the one being attacked except for the fact that teachers at both Primary and Secondary Schools knew... Didn't do Jack Sh*t but at least they knew. Saying to her that night though? "Don't F*ck With Me I'm Stronger Braver Now" and then snapped that goddamn meter ruler into pieces in front of her. Like broke it... 1990s but yet noone did a goddamn thing to help me... So I did it myself. Emancipated myself, got through school then college and University. By myself. So the "We didn't know better" excuse? You know exactly where to shove that one and the sun don't shine outta it.
My parents always downplay the violence and in particular the frequency of the beatings. My family just saw it as normal, to my parents that's just how you raise kids, kids need to be beat into submission and taught to behave/obey. They were raised that way and never even considered doing anything different, why would they? They loved and respected their parents, so why not do what they did. When my siblings started having kids my oldest sister followed their way of doing things, the other 6 siblings did the opposite and instigated a no smacking rule. My parents and oldest sister were utterly confused 'how can you possibly raise a kid without smacking? They act like smacking is the only form of discipline that works and insist that kids who aren't hit act like spoilt brats and run rings around their parents. Luckily my other siblings see things differently and have turned out to be thoughtful, gentle and loving parents who use communication instead violence to parent. Break the cycle.
Me. I transitioned and haven't seen my grandparents, cousins, or other family in years. They're all conservative christians and want nothing to do with me.
I grew up in a conservative family - charismatic church etc. I have nieces and nephews that r not straight and we have always loved them and have them in our lives. Can't imagine any other way to treat people I love. Stop pounding on conservatives and religion and blame the people. I only said nieces and nephews bc I'm talking about my siblings children. They're all wonderful loving people
There’s that Christian love! (Cue comments about how these aren’t “real” Christians.)
They are not real Christian, but unfortunately they are real enough to do damages.
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My aunt Pam. At some point she started hearing voices telling her to hurt family members. I don't have a ton of details, but I know she lives in an apartment on a property managed by some kind of mental health facility.
She needs help and support. Instead she gets cut off from family. I hope op never has to deal with a mental health issue or maybe they should. They might realise it's not easy for the one suffering
I would upvote this more than once if I could. Too many people with mental illness are ostracised instead of supported. She needs help, not rejection. Get her to a doctor instead of cutting er off.
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Me. I’m city. They’re country. I’d say, “That’s cool!” They’d say, “That’s weird.” I’m queer. They don’t like that. So we don’t talk!
Why are some people so obsessed with who their child has relations with.
Baby jesus, lord of all that is holy, deliver me to that space between these two gorgeous women.
My uncle.
He has since passed, but he was a severe alcoholic and would come to family gatherings pissed out of his mind (yes, he drove to!).
Died in a chair alone in his apartment. Bled to death internally from alcohol, the EMS only got called due to the smell.
I do miss him at times, he was a great uncle when I was young.
Addiction kills people and destroy families, it's really a horrible disease.
If it is indeed a disease, it's the only one I can think of that people actively dislike you for having.
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There are drunks that behave more like "Arthur" than the average deadbeat drunk. They can be fun to be around. Just sayin'.
I can definitely relate but my uncle died in the hospital by alcohol poisoning
An aunt who mismanaged grandma's estate & refused to return the money she stole until one of her sisters sued her for it. Aunt maintains her sisters were "just being mean" but now none of her 4 sisters speak to her.
One of the reasons I’m glad I come from a poor family. My father can dislike me for me, rather than missing out by inheriting nothing from his parents.
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My older sister. She’s a compulsive liar who has spent many years in and out of prison. She lies about being pregnant and having children to try to guilt trip people into giving her money. She’s been pretty much exiled from the family. Her latest scam was that she had a baby but it took me no time to find the actual child on one of her friends facebooks that she was stealing the photos from.
Indeed, but too often people who have been "away" learn how to game people, and for women it's typically the whole pregnancy thing. Then when they get called out on it, they claim miscarriage so people still buy the BS. Men tend to be a tad more convoluted but still fall back on using kids as leverage. I'm starting a new job so I can support my GF and kids, but I need $$ for a car. I need it quickly cause I start tomorrow... Always a load of BS, but using kids as leverage.
Load More Replies...Why would you say that? Because she's dishonest, and has been in prison? Do you think fast food workers are all shítty people? Don't debase food-service workers like that. It may not be a glamourous job, but it's honest. And it's a physically hard, mentally stressful, greasy, dirty job. And yeah, there ARE some shítty workers. But 25 years in the business has shown me that far more of them, in fact most of them, are honest, hardworking people who just want to pay their bills and take care of their families. It's usually the *customers*, especially the ones with attitudes like yours, who are actually the most shítty people in the fast food world. Don't look down your nose at it. Or any job, for that manner. That's a díck move, and makes you look like a nasty person.
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When my grandfather passed, he split his belongings up between 12 kids. None of the grandkids got anything, and his wife, my grandmother, only got one thing. A cabin he'd built for her in the rocky mountains back in the 40s. "Where I'll go to die someday," as she used to call it. It was everything in the world to her.
Until the eldest son challenged the will because he believed he was entitled to more than was left. I spent 4 years and dozens of thousands of dollars fighting in court to make sure she kept what was rightfully hers. Of the 512 acres that the cabin sat on, I managed to get 11.5. The rest was sold off, and the money split between a few of the other kids. They went to war over 500 acres when the will was parceling out over 62k acres between mountain and farm lands.
When my grandmother started to go after the first heart attack, it was the first time that I'd heard from my uncle(her eldest son) since we finished in court. I told him it was it, and he needed to get down soon to say his goodbyes. He brushed me off and told me he'd put together 100k to "put the cabin back where it belongs." I needed to be restrained by hospital personnel, and he threatened to press charges if I didn't sell him the property.
I outlived him, and the property is mine now. I'm slowly buying back the land we lost from a couple of different parties. None of it belongs to any of my uncles or aunts who fought for it in the first place, and I told all of them that if they ever darkened my doorstep, I'd kill em. Their kids have held the grudge and view me the bad guy for "stealing their heritage/inheritance.".
Me. I am dealing with depression, and I struggle to believe I belong anywhere. Feel like a burden to everyone, so I don't want to bring them down. Also have never lived up to what everyone thought I should be. I am also a lot younger than my siblings, and they hated my dad. We had different fathers. So lots of trauma and probably me since I am so risk averse.
You do belong. If you aren't being treated for your depression please talk to your Dr about it and see what meds work for you. You are not a burden to the people that love you. Try to figure out what you want to do/makes you happy and do it.
I have been where you are. I am almost 40 years on the other side. You do belong, you will find your path and you will make a place for yourself in this world.
My dad is that sibling now for his brothers. Oddly enough, my dad is the one who graduated high school, graduated college, worked hard his whole life, saved money, and now lives a comfortable life. His 3 brothers, have 2 high school diplomas between the 3 of them, and 1 has been to rehab for d**g addiction a few times, 1 is an alcoholic, and 1 has never had to pay for anything on his own. When my grandfather died, my dad had to help the 1 who never paid for anything set up the bills for his house that my grandfather gave him in his name. The other 2 live off government disability. They call my dad, but only to ask for money. He and my mom no longer take their calls.
Me. My drunk BIL threw a drink in my face at wedding after starting an argument and won't apologize. I am the youngest in the family so I was told "Life is short. Get over it.". Really, I stopped talking to them. But the niece whose wedding it was, hates said BIL and she and I still get alone great.
My BIL is a man filled with hatred and threatened to kill me over 60 times. The only place I ever saw him was when he and my sister would visit my Mom and I was there at the same time. So, I told my Mom and added, "Just tell me when he's coming and I won't come." She replied, "Well, maybe [he threatened to kill you]. But when he's here, you have to be nice to him. You have to be polite to him." I later found out that (my aunt told me) that, after reflection, she phoned him and told him, "If you can't respect everyone when you're here, don't come." And he never did again. Of course, that meant that my Mom almost never saw her grandchildren again.
Right now my dad sadly. Was a good guy until he lost his job and fell to alcohol and d***s, became verbally/emotionally abusive, and would constantly lie so he could get some money for booze and blow. Treated everyone like they were the dirt beneath him until he lost everything. Now he begs everyone for money and to give him a chance, just to go drink and yell at people again.
I have a friend whose soon to be ex-husband is this way. Their autistic son suffers greatly.
My mum. She’s toxic, manipulative, narcissistic and verbally abusive. We’re rarely invited to family events. We didn’t have any kind of relationship with any cousins or aunts/uncles when we were younger. Everybody is really close, going on family holidays, meeting for meals etc, but we’re not, or we’re invited only as an afterthought, like the day before when it’s far too late to arrange to attend. Nobody likes her and she brings it on herself entirely.
I mossed out on a whole lot of family events all my life because it was my aunt and uncle (my dad's brother) who arranged it all. I have been on an annual trip with them once as an adult and my aunt was shocked when she realised I'd never been on this annual trip (and other events) before. My parents are divorced and my dad never spoke a lot with my uncle and also my dad's wife is very annoyed by any event or thing she has to do that she did not plan herself. And since I only visited my dad one weekend per month as a kid (my dad's and especially his wife's choice) I just wasn't around much. And I still sometimes feel extremely hurt that the family had this annual trip that I was never on.
My father. He is a narcissistic AH with main character syndrome. I am full NC with him as he would yell at me for not living my life just as he says. He is now married to wife #4, and constantly posts things on FB about how horrible my mom is, and they were divorced over 40 years ago. Wife#4 does not see this as she is not allowed on FB. Nor is she allowed to have her own email and must use their shared email account.
No one is really talking to me. I recently was diagnosed with autism. I guess I’m weird. I reached out a lot after I left my abusive ex but it’s like everyone didn’t care about me after I did.
It’s not necessarily me though because I have community around me I’m involved in.
You're not weird. I'm autistic as well and I've learnt that if people call you weird (or say that you 'misbehave' in my case, I'm still in school) because of your disability, they aren't worth being around.
im also autistic and i like to like by the quote: they laugh at me because im different but i laugh because they're all the same' i think by the joker i can remember bbut it really helps
Load More Replies...I think a lot of these problems are self created. Like if Dad, mom, and aunt Josephine don't like Timmy they could all just say that Timmy has problems with this or that.
Uncle Joe, the master of unsolicited advice. He’s like a walking, talking “life hack” video, but all his hacks somehow involve using duct tape or conspiracy theories. Family gatherings aren’t complete without him cornering someone to explain why we should all wear tin foil hats to avoid government mind-reading.
I'm sorry, but I did laugh a bit. If I was drunk enough I'd sit and talk to Uncle Joe just so I had some anecdotes to relate afterwards.
My grandparents. After my dad died they offered to pay for the cremation, well they hijacked the ashes and dumped them without any of his children. I'm still thinking about showing up at their wakes and boxing them in their dead a*s faces.
My Uncle. He moved to Australia in the 1970s. He may or may not be alive. He may or may not be aware it's just him and my 96 year old aunt left out of the original seven siblings. No one has details for him. No big falling out, just everyone seemed to vastly prefer him being in Australia. His only crimes I've managed to pin down are a) not letting my Dad touch his Superman comics in 1960-whenever and b) being a bit of an ars**ole.
This one is interesting and not horribly sad. Dude just wanted to live his own life.
Or OP’s family wasn’t good to him and he intentionally cut them off and moved away. OP is only hearing one side of the story. If it’s really OP’s father and others who drove away the uncle, OP’s never going to hear the truth.
Load More Replies...Wonder if he took his superman comics with him. He can use them to swat spiders
I wondered about those comics. If he took them with him, they ought to be safe from being touched by his siblings.
Load More Replies... My uncle, Terry (name change).
He is in his 60s, outwardly sexist, and always talks about HIS glory days - when he was in high school - all the d***s he did, the women he scored with, the cars and motorcycles he drove (and how he drove them), how great he was, etc. But hasn't done anything with his life in the last 40+ years. He's not a drunk or anything, just doesn't have a redeeming likable quality and is just typically miserable.
He hits on any woman he sees at family functions if given the opportunity to be alone with them for more than 5 minutes. When I was younger, I warned any of my girlfriends to steer clear of him, and specifically pointed him out. I make sure to never leave my wife while at family functions if he's around.
Decades ago, when my sister was a minor, he had the opportunity to corner her and make a pass and occasionally would make some risqué comments. To this day, my sister refuses to be in the same room as he. He's never inappropriately touched someone or physically sexually assaulted anyone (that I know of). He's just an overall sleazeball. He's ultimately "harmless" but just makes everyone uncomfortable.
He complains about everything and everyone. Nothing is ever good enough. I genuinely have never seen him happy - or smile for that matter. He and his wife, Sarah (name change), have been married for what seems like forever. At least once (or twice) they almost got divorced (separated for awhile) and the running joke in the family was that if they got divorced, Sarah would stay in the family and Terry would go away.
Grandma always tried to keep the peace and get the family together, but after she passed, we don't do many family gatherings together - if we do, he rarely shows (thankfully). I've probably seen him twice in the last 15 years. I have young kids (boys and girls) and hope they never meet him.
My Father in Law. Boy where do I start....?
ETA: Sorry, I obviously had to vent, this got way longer than I intended....
TLDR: My Abusive, Drunk, Multi-Time Scammed, but won't believe it for a second, narcissistic, holiday ruining Father in Law.
He has been a narcissist his entire life, he was abusive and hard on my MIL and the 3 girls (I am married to the youngest of the 3) They divorced back when my wife was 6 (1987) and my MIL said it was the best thing she ever did even though she didn't have a penny to her name and had to take care of 3 kids. He left and went to Montana and was a truck driver and never sent any money home.
After many years, all 3 of the girls have somewhat repaired the relationship with him but let me tell you, the work has ALL been by the 3 of them, and none by him. He is now just a drunk idiot who acts like a 15 year old kid with no sense of responsibility
He has been scammed MULTIPLE times, has lost over $400,000, does not believe ANY of us when we tell him he is being scammed. Keeps claiming he is just "trying to get his stock out of the market, and once the Bitcoin comes through, he'll be set"
My wife, has bailed him out (Not financially) from losing his house by going to court with him and getting the judge to extend the foreclosure twice now. While also working with Rocket Mortgage to set up auto pay from a new account (where his pension goes) so at least the mortgage is being paid automatically now.
This man makes $6,000+ a month from Pension and military disability, and only has a mortgage to pay, yet is CONSTANTLY out of money. AND he wants us to believe he isn't being scammed anymore, except he "Sold a Motorcycle" on FB Marketplace to a fake check scammer and actually let "The local friend of the buyer" come and pick up the bike with a trailer because "the Check cleared his bank and the money was his now" but sure enough, it bounced and that $5,000 was taken back out of his account, and the freakin bike is GONE!
And on top of all that, he has promised SO many things for his grand kids (Our two and 5 more from my 2 sisters in law) and has just not delivered on anything.
This last Christmas, we hosted everyone at our house, and after last year, we didn't want to invite him, because he didn't bring any gifts for the kids yet threw a damn FIT that no one got him anything, including us, (We don't exchange gifts between the adults) but especially the grand kids. He acted like a baby and left before dinner. So, fast forward to this Christmas he is all "Ohhh don't you worry I'll bring gifts for the kids, yadda, yadda, yadda." So, all 3 families reluctantly each got a gift for him. All 3 of them marked as like they came from the kids of each family. (Disclosure, on purpose, we scheduled it so we already had the kids open their gifts and did that part without him before him arriving) He gets here, has absolutely nothing with him at all, and immediately asks where the beer is, grabs one, and after two big swigs asks where his presents are....
The last straw was him calling my wife again this last month asking for her help in getting some BitCoin transferred from a "guy he knows" and my wife finding out in the call that he also is being taken to court AGAIN by Rocket Mortgage and he also wants her to attend again... Nope, she shut him down and said once you figure out your s**t and get out of all this mess we can talk, but until then we are no contact and hung up. He had the audacity to text her and ask if she would still go to the court hearing with him, and she unloaded on him in her response, reminding him about something he also promised my son that he hasn't accomplished in over a year, telling him that my MIL stepped in and took care of it for our son. His response was all about why she did that and trying to make him look bad, nothing about my son and how he broke his promise.
We are done.
Me. I moved 1000 miles away and don't bother to stay in touch. On the rare occasion someone calls and asks to meet up if they're traveling through, I tell them I'll be out of town.
It's funny reading all the, "It's me, I'm the black sheep." Replies because I know that would be my brother's response to this. But he wasn't the black sheep, he just claims to be because we all cut him out of our lives for being extremely abusive and toxic.
So he WAS the black sheep who you cut out of your lives for being extremely a*****e and toxic. There, I fixed it.
My dad he goes through stages of randomly being sober for a couple months then disappears for a couple years, most of the time no one know where he is.
Sounds like he’s going to jail for skipping out on court mandated treatment. I assure you those aren’t “random” bouts of sobriety though. He’s either been told to get clean or go to jail, can’t get his DOC or can’t afford it, or they really are trying to do better but keep relapsing. But usually addicts don’t just “randomly” get sober.
They do indeed sometimes get "randomly sober" from time to time. I'm almost 14 years sober and had friends who did just that for varying reasons. One guy went in (just to do a medical dry out) because his hands shook so hard he couldn't feed himself. When he was released, he went straight to the liquor store for a handle of cheap vodka. Another did a 90 day inpatient treatment, then when released to transitional housing, snuck off to panhandle enough for a pint of vodka to get hammered. Sometimes it's because they run out of $ and doing a medical detox is safe, at least until the next check arrives.
Load More Replies... Me, cause my aunt's and uncles and cousins were all upper middle to wealthy, and my parents dealt d***s and were poor. Nobody wanted the d**g dealers or their kid around their family while leaving me to rot in that situation alone.
0/10 family is overrated.
Yikes, I'm sorry you were alone during this. It should not have affected their relationship with you.
My sister. She stole from our parents and begged for money from relatives at different points in our lives all because she was selfish and would overspend, but would lie about the reasons she needed money.
Kind of backwards of what you’re expecting, but one of my cousins just like, disappeared one day. She was in her late twenties, moved out of state, and stopped answering the phone for anyone. So, nobody talks to her anymore, just not by choice.
Oh, and I’ve got another cousin who seems to have misplaced a teenager. He and his wife had adopted her from China. One day he had 12 kids, the next day he had 11, and who the hell knows where that one went. 🤷♂️.
Nephew/sister. whats worse than stealing from family? Calling the cops on your family because they b**ched you out for your kid robbing them.
One of my cousins distanced himself from the family.
I support his decision & trust his reasoning. Hope he's okay, but I think his dad & my grandpa just didn't treat well.
My grandma is very upset, but I'm going to add this in my motivation to NEVER marry a controlling man.
She is paying for it so much in her late life & she honestly doesn't deserve it. She was alienated from multiple family members because of him.
Distant cousin. I heard many stories about what a troublemaker he was growing up skipping school, joining gangs, being arrested/detained several times, having a "wedding" and the wife leaving almost immediately and dumping their baby on him (I feel really bad for the child), having a very questionable high paying job, and being an overall jerk. I saw him a few times when visiting family and at weddings and he always looked like he was hiding something and had no manners whatsoever. I asked my direct cousins about him and they would just shake their heads and not want to say much.
The whole family seemed really messed up. The father is a twin and the other brother's family who lives close by has a much more stable and well mannered family. But this distant cousin family was a mess. I often hear the mother is really dumb and does a lot of questionable things too and is always lying about how great everything else and is in denial constantly when talking to my parents. Then my parents talks to other relatives and they get a completely different story. I feel like the mother plays a huge part in such an unstable family. This cousin also has a younger sister who almost never speaks and looks away from everyone like she's got some social/mental disorder that was neglected/ignored. I heard when she became an adult she just left and cut off contact. Honestly I'm not surprised.
And time to time I hear the mother saying positive lies about her family and other relatives denouncing all her BS. It sickens me that I'm somehow related to that cousin and his idiot mother.
Uncle Randy. IIRC I met him once when I was too young to remember.
From what I know, he's bipolar and schizophrenic, and thinks the family is out to get him. I don't think anyone in the family has contact with him, but not sure since I also don't have much contact with any of my extended family.
Me, because I was an a*****e for a long time and my family finally got sick of my s**t.
When I finally got my s**t together, I figured I'd done without them this long, no reason to bother with re-complicating my personal entanglements.
My father. Refused to accept I am gay so I cut off contact for 35 years. He's dead now and I really didn't and don't care.
I'd be delighted to be your dad! I'm a 50 year old female would be delighted to be the dad, mom, sibling, great aunt's cousin twice removed if it meant I can share my love with someone who hasn't gotten the love they so rightfully deserve.
Load More Replies...My cousin. It's complicated. She married an emotionally abusive, controlling, right-wing, Christian arsehole. We tried to support her, but eventually she seemed to "drink the cool-aid" and go over to his way of thinking. Her only contact with her sweet, kindhearted 90 year old mother was phone calls where she'd end up screaming at her mum down the phone. The last we heard of the two of them (cousin and husband) they'd become supporters of Tommy Robinson. Her mum is frail and in an old people's home. Cousin never visits or calls, I'm guessing her mum will die having never seen her daughter again.
But if mom had a ton of money they'd bridge that chasm quickly enough.
Load More Replies...Me. I cut ties with a toxic parent who decided to punish me for it by spreading lies about me. The family knows she bends the truth and play victum but still choose to believe her. I miss family but it hurts to think about what they believe.
Me, most likely. I travel a lot so it's not surprising I live in another country from where my family is. I think my whole family is politically right leaning (US) and religious (various Christian denominations), I am most definitely left leaning and am Pagan. I also am the highest in education than any of my family ... in our history, on both sides. So they like to talk about me, but never to me (for some reason). I used to be closer to some but they stopped talking to me because I don't like trump or cause I stopped being the only one to reach out and initiate connection. It's like, no one cared about me. I'm going to be moving further away for research next year and will be gone for at least 2 years, so, it's not like my family will be more keen on talking to me then lol. All my grandparents have passed, I'm no contact with my mother and my sister decided she didn't like me anymore, so the only person I talk to from my family is my father ... who proudly talks about my accomplishmen
Me (according to one side of my family). Once I turned 18 I cut off one family of relatives and cousins because they were emotionally manipulative and toxic to me growing up for no reason at all (they were quite haughty in general too but others seemed to be less fazed). I was just a helpless child and kept getting cornered and ignored. My parents didn’t notice or didn’t care to intervene cause in my culture “family is never wrong”. Collaboratively their actions and consequences (e.g. getting neglected by others in turn when they were around) destroyed my mental health. Cause I made my choice to cut them off in a culture where no one does that, now I’m regarded as the strange and distant one in the family by the rest. I can’t wait to move far away and go low contact with the rest of them too.
My uncle. Alcoholic who later progressed to much harder stuff (coke, heroín, mëth possibly). Also molested his then preteen stepdaughter so add pedo onto that. That came out after he'd already been cut off by all his siblings, so the final straw for my mom was when he showed up at our house high as a kite after swearing up and down that he was sober (and he had been for a few months at this point). But this was far from the first time he'd relapsed and my mom had given him chance after chance.
I guess that would be me, in a sense. When my mother passed, one of my siblings lost it & relapsed into their addictions. Being that they were living in the house we now own together, and knowing how much of a pack rat mom was, I offered to help clean up. Because of the relapse, all I got were excuses & being blown off--while at the same time, they blasted me on social media for not helping...after all, they just lost their mommy...nevermind the fact that I did too, and now this sibling expects me to pick up where 'mommy' left off--enabling & taking care of things for them that most adults handle on their own: vehicle insurance, claiming homestead...things that I have given specific instructions on how to do, but no, I'm expected to do them because they don't know how, or Mom always did it. It's easier & less self-sabotaging to not have a relationship with this sibling, but I miss them terribly and hate that they are dealing with those demons again after being clean for 10 yrs.
Much of these sorts of things happen and people are abused, but it becomes obvious in this list that people were having fun with your sympathies and being very creative and eventually competitive, trying to outdo the oneanother.
My eldest sister Started 20 years when our Dad was dieing in hospital when she ordered my brother and I out of the room so she "could spend time alone with him" he passed while we were gone Years later after Mum paid her mortgage areas twice she still had her house repossessed She left her husband moved to another city When mum was dieing I called her to tell her She came home for the funeral left the next day I've heard from her twice in 15 years & both occasions were her asking for money to pay fines or a tax bill
👏🏼👏🏼 You are allowed to not interact with toxic family members. You are allowed to reconcile if you want. 👏🏼👏🏼
My father. Refused to accept I am gay so I cut off contact for 35 years. He's dead now and I really didn't and don't care.
I'd be delighted to be your dad! I'm a 50 year old female would be delighted to be the dad, mom, sibling, great aunt's cousin twice removed if it meant I can share my love with someone who hasn't gotten the love they so rightfully deserve.
Load More Replies...My cousin. It's complicated. She married an emotionally abusive, controlling, right-wing, Christian arsehole. We tried to support her, but eventually she seemed to "drink the cool-aid" and go over to his way of thinking. Her only contact with her sweet, kindhearted 90 year old mother was phone calls where she'd end up screaming at her mum down the phone. The last we heard of the two of them (cousin and husband) they'd become supporters of Tommy Robinson. Her mum is frail and in an old people's home. Cousin never visits or calls, I'm guessing her mum will die having never seen her daughter again.
But if mom had a ton of money they'd bridge that chasm quickly enough.
Load More Replies...Me. I cut ties with a toxic parent who decided to punish me for it by spreading lies about me. The family knows she bends the truth and play victum but still choose to believe her. I miss family but it hurts to think about what they believe.
Me, most likely. I travel a lot so it's not surprising I live in another country from where my family is. I think my whole family is politically right leaning (US) and religious (various Christian denominations), I am most definitely left leaning and am Pagan. I also am the highest in education than any of my family ... in our history, on both sides. So they like to talk about me, but never to me (for some reason). I used to be closer to some but they stopped talking to me because I don't like trump or cause I stopped being the only one to reach out and initiate connection. It's like, no one cared about me. I'm going to be moving further away for research next year and will be gone for at least 2 years, so, it's not like my family will be more keen on talking to me then lol. All my grandparents have passed, I'm no contact with my mother and my sister decided she didn't like me anymore, so the only person I talk to from my family is my father ... who proudly talks about my accomplishmen
Me (according to one side of my family). Once I turned 18 I cut off one family of relatives and cousins because they were emotionally manipulative and toxic to me growing up for no reason at all (they were quite haughty in general too but others seemed to be less fazed). I was just a helpless child and kept getting cornered and ignored. My parents didn’t notice or didn’t care to intervene cause in my culture “family is never wrong”. Collaboratively their actions and consequences (e.g. getting neglected by others in turn when they were around) destroyed my mental health. Cause I made my choice to cut them off in a culture where no one does that, now I’m regarded as the strange and distant one in the family by the rest. I can’t wait to move far away and go low contact with the rest of them too.
My uncle. Alcoholic who later progressed to much harder stuff (coke, heroín, mëth possibly). Also molested his then preteen stepdaughter so add pedo onto that. That came out after he'd already been cut off by all his siblings, so the final straw for my mom was when he showed up at our house high as a kite after swearing up and down that he was sober (and he had been for a few months at this point). But this was far from the first time he'd relapsed and my mom had given him chance after chance.
I guess that would be me, in a sense. When my mother passed, one of my siblings lost it & relapsed into their addictions. Being that they were living in the house we now own together, and knowing how much of a pack rat mom was, I offered to help clean up. Because of the relapse, all I got were excuses & being blown off--while at the same time, they blasted me on social media for not helping...after all, they just lost their mommy...nevermind the fact that I did too, and now this sibling expects me to pick up where 'mommy' left off--enabling & taking care of things for them that most adults handle on their own: vehicle insurance, claiming homestead...things that I have given specific instructions on how to do, but no, I'm expected to do them because they don't know how, or Mom always did it. It's easier & less self-sabotaging to not have a relationship with this sibling, but I miss them terribly and hate that they are dealing with those demons again after being clean for 10 yrs.
Much of these sorts of things happen and people are abused, but it becomes obvious in this list that people were having fun with your sympathies and being very creative and eventually competitive, trying to outdo the oneanother.
My eldest sister Started 20 years when our Dad was dieing in hospital when she ordered my brother and I out of the room so she "could spend time alone with him" he passed while we were gone Years later after Mum paid her mortgage areas twice she still had her house repossessed She left her husband moved to another city When mum was dieing I called her to tell her She came home for the funeral left the next day I've heard from her twice in 15 years & both occasions were her asking for money to pay fines or a tax bill
👏🏼👏🏼 You are allowed to not interact with toxic family members. You are allowed to reconcile if you want. 👏🏼👏🏼
