Laws are there for a reason, and it’s likely safe to assume that without them, chaos would ensue. However, while some rules are there to stop crime and wrongdoing against people, others seem to regulate situations where no one’s actually a victim.
The ‘Ask Reddit’ community members recently discussed what is or feels like a victimless crime. They shared their thoughts after the user u/secondfiddle00 started the thread, which covered everything from dumpster diving to collecting rainwater. Scroll down to find more of redditors' answers on the list below.
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As an ER nurse, I give a lot of s**t away to patients against the rules or advise them where they can get it cheaper. Big hospitals have more money than God, but want me to send you home with 1or2 wound supplies for a wound that will take 4 weeks to heal. F**k that. Here's a box of 50 for your purse. I never gave that to you. Hey, you need crutches, and here they are, but first. Before you sign that you got these. These crutches are $1000. The same or better are on Amazon for $50 or less. I'm not telling you how to live your life, but I can offer you a free wheelchair ride out to your sons car...
You could argue that the hospital is the victim here. I'm telling you that the hospital gets a discount on supplies and marks them up 1000% to sell to those going through an emergency. Who's really the victim?
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Appreciate all the support! Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope I never have the pleasure of taking care of any of you. Stay healthy people and keep living your life to the best you can.
To those saying I could get fired for this. I appreciate the concern. I can almost guarantee I will one day be fired for this. It's worth it to me. I will get another job in a different ER and continue my work.
Regarding the people saying I'm contributing to the problem. The problem is in the USA Healthcare model. Everything from insurance to CEOs. If my treatment and proper care of the individual is contributing to the problem, frankly, I don't think I care tbh. I will continue.
Lastly. Various arguments have been made to if this is a victimless crime or not. I don't disagree with some, but it's the closest thing I have to answer the question. Apologies if it doesn't 100% fit.
Stay beautiful people
I am starting to get at feeling this list should be marked "illegal in the US".
Just keep scrolling. Your comment is a bit premature.
Load More Replies...I brought my own epilepsy meds to the hospital. The doctor asked me why and I told her because the hospital charges a ridiculous amount of money for everything. She just kind of laughed and said she couldn't disagree with me. The pharmacist has to check them out before they'll allow them to be used in the hospital, for insurance purposes of course. Can't have the ones robbing you getting sued.
Medication should be payed for by the government. My epilepsy medication is paid by the government hospitals should not be there to make money
Load More Replies...Our local pharmacist is like this. If he sees doc has prescribed some brand name med he'll tell you about the cheaper generic version and let you choose. If you're on a good medical aid you take the brand name, if not you go for generic.
In Australia all our chemists offer this. Then again, we have a pharmaceutical benefits scheme to make our prescriptions $7 if we have a healthcare card and $30 if we don't, for most medications.
Load More Replies...Why has BP become such a platform for US problems??? 😓 this was supposed to be a wholesome, worldwide site for art, love, fun and humour. It’s getting worse every day…😢
I'm an RN, lived and worked in the US for many years. Back home in the "Nordics", still an RN. My patients going home gets wheelchairs, walkers, oxygenators and so on for free.
I was the maintenance super in a nursing home in the late 1980s. Whatever I needed, whether it was a replacement outlet or switch, was 5 times as expensive if it said "medical grade".
Once again it's a backdoor way to say America sucks. I imagine one of the next ones on the list will be "It's not illegal to peer at someone through a bathroom stall gap."
I blatantly ask these questions. Until my out of pocket is met, then ef it, gimme the 1k crutches
I want to know why hospital food always tastes like soap. You never see anyone who works at the hospital eat patient food.
After hearing how it takes weeks or months to get a pathology report back in the UK I'll take my expensive healthcare here in the US.
Eh, I don't know. I've been waiting six months to see an ear, nose and throat specialist for sudden hearing loss in my ear. My husband had to wait ONE YEAR for an appointment with a dermatologist to find out if he had skin cancer or not. This is in the US.
Load More Replies...In theory this sounds okay, but during Covid there were multiple cases of patients taking supplies themselves when they went to the hospital and stock got very low, so some staff had to re-use masks etc.
Long standing applause - you are a nurse for allllllll the right reasons
Wow, in Canada I think I paid $25 for a pair of crutches about 7 years ago.
Even if it is a crime she's doing what her heart dictates. Also I could not afford a $1000 for crutches. I appreciate her telling me where to get them cheaper. And yes, I would appreciate anything she can do for me. So unless you've been strapped for cash. And have stayed home because you can't afford medical service. Rethink what you're going to say?
Not heroes wear capes, in fact, most heroes are nurses. You are such an amazing human being. it's not about if it's " theft " or not, it's about you doing something to help people who are are struggling to pay for things in a country where free healthcare should exist, but doesn't.
In the Netherlands you are required to bring all you meds and aid supplies with you to the hospital because it is too expensive for the hospital to give them to you. If you don't bring your own, you are not going to get it during your stay there. (You will get the cheapest meds if necessary, but you can be charged for it apart from the bill that is sent to your insurance company). And if you need anything additional, you have to request your GP for sending it to you (and find someone who is going to get it for you at the pharmacy :)). Many people think that health care in the Netherlands is great, however, it has been on a slopey hill downwards for many years now due to the market system in the health care. And it is reaching flat bottom nowadays where people are being sent home with legitimate health scares because the hospitals have no place for them (due to money issues only).
Former nurse here and we've all done it especially I'd you have a patient you know will never be able to play the prescription charge and will not be able to get their meds. Although I'm the UK kids and young people still in education have free prescription . I've seen Mum's having to bring their little ones to A and E because they can't afford to feed their kids and buy over the counter meds. I'm the old days these items could be prescribed but now over the counter meds are not permitted to be prescribed. It is such a shame ,the NHS is a life saver and politicians are destroying it .
Neatly illustrates the difference between the US money making health industry, and what the civilised world has.
The sentiment is nice, but it’s illegal because it’s theft and you can be fired and/or prosecuted for it.
hospitals are not for making profits! Mistake one. Mistake two, you have no idea what will lead to an investigation.
Load More Replies...Assisted s*****e. As long as it’s humane, the person is of right mind and age, and there is sufficient cause for such a procedure. Death with dignity has been withheld for too long as a civil society.
Totally agree it should be legalised (under strict controls, obviously). Refusing a humane end to a suffering animal is rightly considered cruelty, so why do humans not get that same mercy when they need it?
Anything related to food stamps. I’m sorry but food insecurity is not ok for anyone to go through. I don’t care about fudging the numbers to get food assistance. I don’t care about people who sell their food stamps (I know, it’s cards now, but you know what I mean). If you’re desperate enough to use fraud to get food or you’re selling your free food access to someone else who needs it because you need the money for bills, I’m ok with it.
My food stamps were cut in half in March. Now I get $126 for the entire month. My SSI is $1200. Like many other people in this country, I can only afford one meal a day. Rather ironic, as I'm morbidly obese.
Feeding the homeless in Texas. No victims but it is a crime.
Sleeping in your car when you are too drunk and can't drive.
I see Jaywalking on this quite a but but I will say when I lived overseas, jaywalking even at 2 am on an empty street just didn't happen. When I asked a local (German) why he wouldn't cross against a no walking sign he said "what if a kid looked out the window and saw me, i don't want to set a bad example"
Clicking "I am 18 years old" on an adult website when you're 17
Downloading very old games that are no longer available for sale.
Picking up a bird feather found on the ground and keeping it. It's technically against the migratory bird laws.
Entire species were hunted to extinction (Arabian Ostrich) or near extinction (bald eagle) for their feathers. They had to make possession illegal because its way too easy to shoot a bird 1/2 mile from the nearest road and then claim you found the feathers on the ground.
Setting up a lemonade stand without a vendor license
"Is your lemonade made out of actual lemonade?" - "Are your scout cookies made out of actual scouts?"
Prostitution. Ain't nobody's business if two more more consenting adults conduct a financial deal that involves bodily fluids.
That's not to say that cheating, withholding health problems, and sex trafficking aren't victimless, but those aren't just merely prostitution.
Hanging a clothesline, collecting rainwater, or planting a garden in your yard. Some places ban you from doing these things
Eating food out of someones garbage.
The crime here is that there was food thrown out that could have been passed on to someone who needs it.
Being gay in a homophobic country
Worth noting that being gay in ‘most’ countries was still illegal well into the 1900’s, from memory I think it was decriminalised as late as 1996 in Germany. So to my mind we shouldn’t be pointing fingers at developing countries for their ideas, religions and beliefs because we are only talking between what 25-75 years ago when ‘we’ held similar ideas.
Wearing a dress as a man in Tennessee.
It's clothing. It's there to keep you covered and protect you from the elements. What shape it comes in should be completely up to the wearer.
I can take a seed at home, put rain water on it and expose it to sunlight, dry the flowers, bake them into a cake and make some THC edibles, and it doesn't even harm the air quality due to smoking. That's a crime. No money goes to criminal gangs, and I would risk losing my job and going to prison.
Or I can manufacture alcohol and sell it legally, knowing that it causes people health issues, and that others cause crimes when drunk and disorderly, and that's absolutely fine and not a crime.
Weird.
Selling alcohol on Sunday. It's still illegal in some States.
Being an atheist in many many countries
If being in a religion is okay, then not being in one should be too. Forcing people into a religion tends to have the opposite effect…
TONS of blue laws.
basically antiquated laws on the books that have to do with religion (mostly on sundays). In my state you can't buy alcohol on sunday before noon. And car dealers are not allowed to be open on sunday. Basically they are designed to not compete with church attending times like early morning.
We have a certain religion here where I live that don't work on Sunday's. But of course they will go to church then go out for brunch afterward and make other people work even though they HIGHLY judge people who work on Sunday. I work in Healthcare there are no days off. My friends say "I better not treat them if they come in on Sunday lest I will be judged." Of course she was being sarcastic.
When cops pretend to be kids and get people for solicitation to a minor. When I worked at the district attorneys office we LOVED these. The shock on these men’s face when the “14 year old girl” they spoke to was our 6’5”, 300 pound 50 year old detective was just….amazing.
Speeding If traffic is all going above the speed limit. the safest speed is not the speed limit. The safest speed is the speed at which traffic is moving. speeding doesn't inherently cause accidents. differential in speed causes accidents.
Loitering. It's basically just existing somewhere.
Businesses are harmed if your "existing" as you call it makes their location less desirable to shop or do business in. A lot of these "victimless" crimes sound like they were written by people who never considered the other person's point of view.
Collecting rain water (a crime in a lot of cities here in the US).
this makes absolutely no sense do the US goverment think they own the weather or something
Downloading games for obsolete consoles from companies which are now non-existent.
Pirating cute cat videos off the internet
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I don't think anyone has mentioned eating the wrong food. Non-halal food, non-kosher food in some countries. In aboriginal law in Australia, victimless crimes like eating food for the wrong totem, having sex with your betrothed before marriage, and looking at your mother-in-law, are punishable by death or exile, ditto giving birth to a deformed child.
Giving birth to a deformed child? Wtf? That's entirely out of the parents' control :0
Load More Replies...If you are homeless and live in your car, DON'T PARK AT TARGET! The cops will be surrounding you within the hour. The security scours the parking lot. Doesn't Matter if you are in the far corner away from everyone, just don't sit there.
in my country it is a crime to lose your identification papers. you get a fine. it's also illegal to not have identification on person in public, but it's rarely enforced.
So sad that these were ever put on the books somewhere; worse because they are STILL there. Repeal, change!
It used to be illegal to record music from one audio source to another or copy sheet music without paying loyalties. I don't remember anyone being arrested for it and I assume it is still in force.
some of these are completely horrible, some obvious, and im pretty sure some have some stories added to it. You're not allowed to jaywalk, cars present or not.
As usual the writer of this post forgot to add “in USA” as usual they think they are the world. Yeah downvote and cry i dont give a damn🥲
Reminds me again why I should be grateful to not live in that country.
I don't think anyone has mentioned eating the wrong food. Non-halal food, non-kosher food in some countries. In aboriginal law in Australia, victimless crimes like eating food for the wrong totem, having sex with your betrothed before marriage, and looking at your mother-in-law, are punishable by death or exile, ditto giving birth to a deformed child.
Giving birth to a deformed child? Wtf? That's entirely out of the parents' control :0
Load More Replies...If you are homeless and live in your car, DON'T PARK AT TARGET! The cops will be surrounding you within the hour. The security scours the parking lot. Doesn't Matter if you are in the far corner away from everyone, just don't sit there.
in my country it is a crime to lose your identification papers. you get a fine. it's also illegal to not have identification on person in public, but it's rarely enforced.
So sad that these were ever put on the books somewhere; worse because they are STILL there. Repeal, change!
It used to be illegal to record music from one audio source to another or copy sheet music without paying loyalties. I don't remember anyone being arrested for it and I assume it is still in force.
some of these are completely horrible, some obvious, and im pretty sure some have some stories added to it. You're not allowed to jaywalk, cars present or not.
As usual the writer of this post forgot to add “in USA” as usual they think they are the world. Yeah downvote and cry i dont give a damn🥲
Reminds me again why I should be grateful to not live in that country.