35 Disturbing Facts People Didn’t Ask To Know

Google is your friend. I had no idea about MOBs but checked and found this: https://www.rosebrides.com/

I see you severely misunderstood the item in discussion, and I see you are not debating in good faith, so let me just point out one thing before leaving you to your devices. Women who decided to migrate to the Colonies could -in most cases- actually CHOOSE their partner after exchanging letters and CHOOSE to emigrate in the Colony or territory of their CHOOSING where in many cases they could CHOOSE among some professions including respected ones like teacher or seamstress. They were free to CHOOSE not to go through the marriage (but this could lead to unpleasant situations with lack of income). They came from the same countries as the colonists (England, Spain, France, Portugal... all used some kind of scheme like this), where men also did not have much in terms of "rights" or "support", except maybe the opportunity to join the Army or the Navy. So yeah, life was hard for anyone, do of it what you want.

You are talking about the position in the 1600s and I am referring to modern day exploitation of women, but ok, let do it that way. Firstly, women who willingly went to the colonies to become seamstresses and teachers were often middle-class women with an education and yes, they also chose their partners because women were in very high demand meaning the men had to win their affections. The same could be said of any modern-day middle-class women with an education and the means who CHOOSE to immigrate. This is in stark contrast to the poor who often were given the choice between jail and the colonies for stealing a loaf of bread. In a time when women were sent to men’s jails to be repeatedly raped, this does not represent a choice. They were shipped over purely to service the men and ensure that there were enough women to prevent fights amongst the settlers. This is comparable to modern day women in developing countries who “choose” a life of poverty or a life of sexual slavery.

Secondly, as to the “rights” you refer to. Let’s count the rights shall we. Women could not vote. Women could not own land. Women could not have a bank account. Men could. Women with children were not employable at all. Women could not also join the army or the navy. There was no birth control. Women were not permitted to divorce their husbands and marital rape was just, well, a man’s right. A man could abandon his wife and children and go and build a new life no questions asked leaving their families in abject poverty and resorting to theft and prostitution just to survive. If you think life was hard for men, it was a 1000 times worse for women.

THESE days of course, because that’s what we are truly talking about here, we don’t see a supply of mail order brides from countries with a social support system in place, or where the women have rights – because those women actually have a GENUINE CHOICE. They take women from the countries where they don’t have rights and where literally anything seems better than a life of abject poverty.

You are talking about colonization and the HISTORY of immigration. This is not CURRENT practice of purchasing a sex slave.

@zj9h6rdws4 this was a response to "I really want to punch that man in the face who first came up with this "order a bride" bullsh*t" -> no "man" came up with this. It started out of a practice instituted a long time ago to solve two issues at the same time.

Well, freedom of choice is relative, isn't it?

The ones with little recourse were the orphans, who at a certain age were shipped to the colonies without much say in the matter. These women, commonly known as "king's daughters" received a lump sum of money and were sent to find their own way in the colonies. They typically had little issues in finding a husband since there were on average 30 male colonists for each woman, and in most of the documented instances they settled into normal lives. Some even made their way into high ranking families by marrying soldiers, some went back to their homeland later on. The story of the French ones is the most well documented, and out of over 700 women sent to the colonies, only ONE is reported to have ended up in prostitution after her marriage broke down.

Where did i comment, at all on the "mute" thing? I didn't, because i was responding to a question asked in the comments. Are there terrible people taking advantage? Absolutely, just like every other facet of life, doesn't mean it's terrible across the board or that it's facilitated and perpetuated by abuse. A large number of MoB are from the Philippines, currently ranked 16th globally in gender equality. Do i think it's creepy and f****d up? Yes, and you could make the same arguments about sex work, but look at the current view of that "industry" Whatever your personal opinions on the subject, it doesn't change the fact that a whole bunch of women willingly, and eagerly engage in the process....and many (not all) are benefiting from the arraignment...which is why it continues. No one exists in a vacuum. You don't get to blame one person for the party that others are involved in.

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My coworker at my last job was a mail order bride from the Philippines, and she was very happy with the arrangement. I can't say whether she loved her husband, but she's been with him more than 30 years. She talked about him fondly. She plans to retire there once she's old enough for social security. Must be a happy relationship, since he's going with her.

... and we're downvoted. Because we ... apply reasonable criteria in deciding about purchases? Aren't buying a new one every year to replace a perfectly fine one, and thereby, deprive "The Economy" of our money? Or what? Some people around here are really, really dense...

Upvoted you guys.

Thanks! Uh, anyway, of course, they're not perfect. But, of the given options, repairability is outstanding, and a slightly higher level of social responsibility that stays afloat does make more sense to me than an approach that aims at perfection, but doesn't survive. Things SHOULD be different on a large scale vastly exceeding phones or single companies, but for the time being, we have to make do with what's possible at the moment, and extend possibilites from where they are rather than attempting perfection, plummet, attempt, plummet over and over again. We've seen this numerous times. Lancia threw more engineering into an ashtray than Fiat in an entire car, people used to say, but Fiat bought Lancia, and that ended engineering being above accounting. As it should be, but nowhere is.

And it's a good phone! It's more than enough for the average user!

They're not making the chips. Those have a set price, and they have no control over how those materials are sourced, they're relying on the word of companies like samsung, TSMC, Global foundries and Intel to pinky promise that everything is above board. Most of the manufacturing process is both out of their hands, and automated. Cobalt, is required for batteries, and "fair" wages are based around the local economy, the "living wage" in the Congo is $200 per month. Look at iphones, when factoring in materials, manufacturing, logistics....all the things that go into making the phone, they're making a 50% profit, where fairphone is making 40%. Except they're marking their products up by 400% over market value, when again most of the items that make a phone good are out of their control and have set values. It's a bad value, because it's so drastically, laughably overpriced, especially in a time where money is tight for so many people.

So? Everybody ... ok, some people ... has to pay more if you aren't subjected to slave labour, and I think that this is perfectly fine.

@Matt Du I don't hate the Russians, only the one responsible for the current insanity. His soldiers fight because 'maybe getting killed' is better than 'definitely getting killed'. Russia doesn't coddle its people like the US does.

The enemy of my enemy is not a friend. Russia committed their own genocide on other groups during WWII.