30 People Who Kept Tabs On The “Party Animals” From Their College Share What Happened To Them
We all had that one friend who seemed to always start partying first and leave the party last. But years went by, responsibilities piled up, and juggling a full time job, family and other adult things gave most of us very little choice but to make those the top priority.
Not for the party animals, though. They tried their best to resist the inevitable pull of gravity, aka maturing, until the point they either let it go, or completely changed their direction of life.
“What happened to that friend that never stopped partying?” someone asked college graduates on Reddit, and the responses started following. Buckle up for the most interesting and surprising stories!
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ran into an old friend who was like that. We were in our late 30s when that happened and chatted; turned out he partied hard until late 30s and during that time, flitted around job to job to simply fund his partying. One day he looked around and noticed that he was the old guy at the bars hanging with early 20-somethings....realized that all of the folks our age were ahead in their careers, with family/kids etc. Said that was a pretty sobering revelation and enrolled himself back into school and was in his 2nd year of engineering as he wanted to be an aerospace engineer.
Funny to hear because in my country we continue partying till 40s. Not uncommon to see older people at bars etc., and people in their early 40s at clubs.
Just because you're at a bar doesn't mean you're partying or that you don't have a career or a family.
Load More Replies...Oh wow. It feels like you just described me. I spent my 20's playing live music in a rock band fueling my drinking and other addictions. Now I'm in my mid 30's and I just graduated with a Master's in Mechanical Engineering. Sometimes I have to pinch myself...
Aerospace engineer sounds like a super cool job, because you get to help create such amazing things, but I wonder what percent of those jobs are contracts with the DOD (or the equivalent in other countries).
For the people writing "better late than never" or something to that effect. It wasn't "late". Everybody develops at a different rates, and this person needed to grow up. If he was finally mature enough in his late 30s, that means that his late 30s were just the right time.
that was me.... and i'm sober seven years now.
I went to a highschool with about 250 kids in my class. 6 died from overdoses before senior year, one dying in class after drinking cough syrup and being revived . including some close friends. I am 27 currently and we have lost 40 kids to drugs, drinking and driving, and robbery/deals gone wrong. I worked at a prison and the best thing that I saw happen to any of those kids was getting locked up. They started AA and a lot of them really sobered up and stayed sober on the outside. It hurts me every time I think of my old party friends because they never grew up after highschool and ran their lives into the ground.
A friend of mine in college pulled a Van wilder, and spent 7 total years in college (just getting his undergrad) because he liked the partying so much. He lived in the college 'dedicated party house' that had just two modes, actively throwing a wild party, or recovering from the latest party.
What was wild about him was that even though he lived a party lifestyle, he got excellent grades and took phenomenal care of himself (when he wasn't getting black out wasted and having weird sexcapades), and was the person who got me into running/marathoning.
Eventually, he finally graduated with a degree in Mechanical engineering, moved to the east coast, got married and became a born again Christian. He seems happy and successful and just had his first kid recently, but its absolutely weird seeing him post pictures of him getting adult baptized and doing mission work when I once saw him rail cocaine off of a blow up sex doll.
Some people are just good at everything they do. Even good at being bad.
Load More Replies...Typical B.P responses. Mention "christian" and almost everyone focuses on that instead of the bigger picture than he got his life on track.
BP is so accepting about anything other than politics and christianity. (generally)
Load More Replies...Why are people being rude? Where exactly did Michelle C say something to deserve it?
Load More Replies...sex dolls have far too much static for blow. It gets stuck to it. or so I heard.
Depends on location and time of year (summer/winter). In Florida you'll have indoor humidity of 50-60% year round so static is rarely a danger. Or so I heard…
Load More Replies...All these thread replies about how they are now extremely successful seem to fail to take into account factors like having rich parents or good social standing or even developed a prior good work ethic to match their social life. if you come from a poor family and you do this in college, you'll less likely be able to be as successful because if you f**k up when you partied too hard, you wont have anyone to help bail you out of different situations. money makes a lot of difference
See. Now my closest adult friend was this example. Grew up really poor & without resources. 2yr transfer to 4yr school with grants & loans and dropped out due to partying. No one to prop him up. But he’s the guy who can talk to anyone and make them feel like family. Never stopped partying but sold himself into a tech sales job (think Apple or Adobe) where his yearly bonus is 6 figures. I get the social-economic warriors always creating visibility for the class abyss, but this specific topic doesn’t hold tight to that narrative.
Or you just found the exception to the rule. How many people who were poor and partied ended up even poorer and living in a trailer park, or the streets, or dead, and you'd just never run into them?
Load More Replies...This....I was a teenager to college age in the 70's. Drugs were everywhere. At all 19 my father died. A few years later I was talking to my grandfather who was upset his son's grave was so far away and he could not remember where it was in the cemetery. So I went with grandpa and showed him. While there I saw many graves of people I went to school with. All there with drug related deaths. The party hardy people don't live to be successful. They OD. They take some drug from a guy on the street that put it together in a dirty basement somewhere and accidentally got the pot mixed up with Angel dust. They shot up a lethal dose. Mixed the wrong kind of drugs together, drank too much alcohol and a myriad of other reasons. Death, addiction, prison, or a mental hospital are the rule not the exception. We knew a guy whose son smoked a joint laced with God knows what end up in a mental ward for life. Completely fried his brain. Successful in life? Rare as hen's teeth. Don't glorify it.
I had this friend. He didn't go to college, too mixed up with drugs. Last I saw him he was homeless in DC, and had hepatitis. He got addicted to heroine, and was asking me for money. My wife also has a friend who kept partying. She has 7 kids, but doesn't take care of any of them, they live with her mom. She keeps popping out babies for her now 75 year old mother to raise. I fear what will happen when her mom passes. We hear from her every few years when she is looking for money. Luckily, she is not a drug addict, although she smokes like a chimney. She's a bone drinker, but only drinks on weekends when she goes clubbing. 45 year old woman partying her days away. If it weren't for the babies, I'd think she was living her best life. She's technically homeless, but lives with whatever guy she's sleeping with, usually some dude in his early twenties.
Hah. I was the party animal for years until I got things back on track. I lived in a tent for a stint of time and now I have a Masters in Mechanical Engineering. No parents at all... I left the abuse.
Owner of the company I work for failed out of college (too busy playing in his rock band) with no one to prop him up. Ended up living in a cardboard box. Came to the determination that he would never be poor again. Used what he had learned, worked his butt off and established a business that does about 15 million in services annually. It's about the person, not the system.
People who don't come from privilege usually don't party in college. When they actually make it to college.
I am still waiting to be able to fund my party years (in my 40's). Sigh
White privilege! (Ooops…did I say that out loud?). Pretty sad when it’s not recognized, let alone addressed!
I’m late to this thread and this probably won’t be seen, but I want to disagree with some of the top voted answers. I interned for a Fortune 100 and converted to a full hire, and worked with them for almost a decade. I know a lot of people who partied with the right people… and made absolute asses of themselves, threw up in a bush, and got fired the next day. Saw it happen during my internship as well as Christmas parties once full time.
Upvoting because I'm glad to know that partying with the right people isn't necessarily the route to success! Ps you are currently at #18.
This actually is a very uplifting note!!! All too often we see the arrogant (and often short-sighted/bigoted/cruel) 'cool kids' who party with the right folk and land jobs/gigs that they are both not qualified for nor do they appreciate (so no, they don't work hard to become qualified either), yet they still get the paycheque and professional props.
Partying with people did not lead me to any good friendships or networking. They had financial support, I did not. And you are at #5
It's amazing how many times we see the same people on BP I figured with how many times on BP. Either most users are bots or no longer active or there are a ton of people that don't talk. Bots would make a ton of sense for the amount of people downvoted for no reason. And hi people I have met before.
I am that person. Addiction, rock bottom, AA, sobriety, life
"Sobriety, life"? I think it did :-) and long may it continue.
Load More Replies...This was me too. Now I am a stay at home mom with cats and i make chunky blankets read tons of books and I am asleep by 9. Clean 10 years and happy as hell.
Congratulations! That's a lot of hard work and I applaud you for it.
Load More Replies...Just remember, somebody cares about you. You can do this. If no one else believes, I do.
You can live a fantastic life one day at time. Never take sobriety for advantage, you have to want it for the rest of your life. 12 years and counting.......
I graduated ~15 years ago, and just saw someone I went to college with the other day. She served me at Dunkin Donuts, and has no teeth. It made me sad for her.
There may have been a health concern that caused her to work where she is and to have dental issues. Basically it's not always a case of bad choices.
I was that friend. I spent 25 years on heavy drugs and alcohol. I wish I could have those years back, but I don't think I would be where I am today without the struggles that I went through. Coming up on 4 years clean now.
The best thing about being sober is liking who I am on this side of my addiction
He died due to the negligence of the police who picked him up on his birthday to take him to the “drunk tank”. He had graduated college the year prior. It was always somewhat of a joke that he would be the one to party himself to death, so definitely was VERY sobering when it happened. He was so full of life and just kind of a funny guy to be around when you were at the same place/party. The part that makes me the most angry was that he hadn’t done anything to cause the harm that ultimately led to his death, the police who were meant to keep him safe were the ones who killed him. The civil suit on that wrapped up last year and I watched the verdict come out live while in public. It was so surreal to know who he was past “20 something killed due to negligence of police”. Always make sure your friends are in a safe “recovery position” if you are not able to watch them after a heavy night of drinking and (further) vomiting. Never on their back. Never with the ability to ROLL on to their back. You never know when taking the extra 1 minute to get them in a safe position will be the line between them waking up the next morning or not.
I'm assuming he aspirated and choked on his own vomit because police are idiots even though first aid training is mandatory for them 😕
If you have to leave them put either pillows or some rolled up coats behind their back after you've rolled them into the recovery position.
I know a few people who partied to death, and one who accidentally overdosed by drinking alcohol with sleeping pills. Most of them were friendly, king, outgoing people, but they had other issues none of us knew about. Only one case comes to mind where the group should have been more aware, but they abandoned her when she showed symptoms of an overdose. Still, crappy.
Wait, the cops neglected to put him in the recovery position (which is obviously VERY BAD!!!), but the guy did "nothing" to contribute to this situation, even though they were taking him to the"drunk tank" to recover? Sorry, but if he was arrested for being an unruly drunk, then he ABSOLUTELY contributed to the situation! If you're not wise enough to stop drinking before you become a danger to yourself or others, then you are at least partially responsible for what follows! Yes the cops definitely are responsible for the death of this young man, but he's responsible for creating the situation where he needed other people to protect him from himself (ie. putting him in the recovery position)! The saddest part is that both in regards to the choices of this young man and the cops, none of this never needed to happen!
Legitimately, what he said. Check on your friends, whether they're in the next room or the next country, if you know them then you know how they be, rolling their face up mouth breathing gorilla asses down into that little slice on the other side of the bed against the wall works pretty good and also the friends you know are always getting down and you haven't seen them in a hot minuie, just a simple "What's up bro, just saying hey, hit me up when you can." A few words from someone that gives a f**k can save a life, definitely did mine. I'll be 40 in may and 5-6 days of the week from 17 to 35 I was on something. I had two of my close friends party til their livers quit and they looked like simpsons characters, one asphyxiated on his own vomit right in the middle of a party. Another one, died at home in bed, having bit the tip of his tongue off and bleeding out during a seizure, because he stopped drinking too suddenly. We party peeps are a bit slow, keep an eye out. SSl, thanks.
Could someone clear up what exactly happened? I'm not American or European, so kind of difficult to understand what exactly happened.
He became a math professor and when not teaching he travels and has backpacked all over the world.
Librarian, I s**t you not. And he's married and a fantastic father to his daughter.
My wedding reception is coming up. He warned me that he plans to party so hard that we'll need to pull his body out of the bay.
So that's why my library doesn't open until noon? The librarians all have to walk-of-shame home first?
Most of us are either quiet and dorky/nerdy, or absolutely off the walls wild. (Weird either way, I guess.) Not much of an in between.
Load More Replies...Evidently librarians are among the top drinkers at their professional conventions.
I've heard that smart people are often likely to drink more, to make everyone else tolerable
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He drank with the right executives at a conference and got offered a job. He now makes three times what I do.
The moment when you discover that the studying & working hard won't reach you to the top.
Friend's parents got her her first job. It paid x3 what my job paid (both government jobs at the time). Because she got a degree (in art history, nothing remotely to do with the job whatsoever or required skill set), it qualified her to even more bonuses. She went up the ranks fast. I got a more prominent degree and I needed government support to eat each week. Go figure.
I've always said, it's not who you know, it's who knows you...
Load More Replies...Yeah. I think so too. Life is weird (and unfair) sometimes.
Load More Replies...That is SO on the point! As an operasinger (and a bloody good one, too) I was always and am still amazed at how the most exclusive jobs rarely have anything to do with your talent, but more to being at the right time at the right place and knowing for whom you need to suck up to. I can't do that. My integrity is far too important to me. But man, it's intriguing and depressing to watch at the same time with mixed feelings of both disdain and fascination.
I hate to tell you all but this is the most efficient way to "make it". Speaking from experience.
What happens when rich, privileged kids party into their 20's and daddy asks his friends for a favor (haha. Probably story of Donald Trump)
It's not what you know, or who you know. It's how well you know them. Being extremely sociable and likable is a huge help, too.
i would wager a lot of these extravagant accounts came from people who were already somewhat wealthy. i grew up with dudes who "partied super hard" and didnt take their studies seriously or whatever and it didnt work out so well. half of them are dead, the other half are living paycheck to paycheck in drug dens. when youre surrounded by opportunity, it doesnt really matter what you do, people fail upward all the time when they are born into opportunity and resource, i know people who f****d off their entire f*****g lives and their rich business owner dad just gave them a job making like 35 dollars an hour to basically do nothing. its fun to pretend that its that easy for everyone but these people live in a completely different world than the average person, if you think its completely normal that someone can just fall into an extremely desirable career either you are naive or you yourself live in this other realm.
Yes, in any country it's possible, but it takes a LOT of hard work and dedication as well as a lot of luck. It's not so simple. My mom had a friend from the favela (Brazilian slums). He went to med school with her, and his colleagues had to help pay for his uniform and school supplies. University is free in Brazil if you go to public school. He had to work so hard to get out of his situation, violence and bad schools. He didn't have time to party. Unfortunately he was killed by the military police as a suspected leftist some years later.
Load More Replies...There's a wee saying in Scotland that "money goes to money" I think it's quite apt in this situation..rich and failing is so very different to being poor and failing
Sometimes it's all about persistence. My parents were lower middle class but made it very clear that once I was 18 I was completely on my own. Party really hard first time I tried college failed out got pregnant at 19 had my son got married went back to school got divorced Whitney army got out had my daughter went back to school as a single mother of two, still working full time. Became a teacher. Worked in that field for 10 years and finally went back for my masters. Now have a wonderful job running a language acquisition program at a high school and nothing was ever handed to me. I just never gave up.
Totally agree with this. I grew up in a decent home. But I worked hard and paid for everything I have. Every car I've owned. But watched plenty of rich kids in my school mess up over and over and they ended up just fine and successful. Meanwhile, I keep hearing white privilege being pushed around on all white people. I never had any of that, being white. Must be nice
I can see what you're saying, every scenario can't be that way. I know ppl who grew up poor and are at good places now through hard work and determination they are successful. I also know siblings who were born with silver spoons and spend most of their time looking for their next high. Society cannot keep grouping ppl together or saying this and this cannot happen unless their wealthy.
You are right, people like excuses, the people who work hard don't make excuses.
Load More Replies...Then there's those really irritating stories of the "embarrassment to the family" getting paid exorbitant amounts monthly/annually as "stay away" money...
Oh, please , that's where the most incompetent people go is into management, that why it's called failing upwards, a good worker is hard to find that's why all idiots are promoted to management
There is a somewhat confusing issue about success and wealth. If a person wants a well paying job, where they do not have to work, that is only for the wealthy. You'll be hired because of daddy, and inherit enough money that you don't need to work. Think Eric Trump. However, the truly wealthy and the truly successful tend to come from the middle class and the upper middle class. You need to be just "hungry" enough to want to succeed on a big scale, and the kids of the very wealthy aren't that hungry. You also usually have to be educated enough, and have enough understanding how the financial world works, and, if you want to go into business, it helps to have a bit of financial support at the beginning.
He never stopped. He continued drinking at a crazy pace, and lost his job, his driving license, and his wife. He had to move near to a liquor store to keep drinking.
He was found dead on the floor of his apartment from a hemorrhage in his stomach caused by years of alcohol abuse. He bled to death from within. He left behind two sons.
we did an estate sale for a guy who lost his wife, kids, job, then fell and hit his head in his screen room. He managed to get back up and into the house but fell in the hallway and died from a brain bleed. His neighbor found him a couple of days later when she hadn't seen him around. The amount of liquor in the house was insane. Bottle after bottle in cabinets. They were not yet divorced so his wife had to come down to FL and deal with it all.
This happened to my cousin. She partied hard, drank everyday. Dr told her if she didn't stop drinking it would kill her. She was found dead in her house with blood literally coming out of every orfice. Alcohol basically dissolved her insides. She was 40
He probably had an esophageal varice rupture, those are very vascular and are hard to get to stop bleeding.
That's not called "partying", that's alcohol addiction. He needed help, but got none.
That will be my husband. He spent a week in the hospital last month after emergency surgery for a perforated ulcer. He's back to work, so he's back to drinking. I'll drive him to the ER if necessary, but then he'll be on his own.
My dad drank himself to death too. It's painful for the family left behind, that loved them anyways.....
Full warning, its not good.
Had 2 friends like this in uni (2017), one night we were partying at a friends house and they both were fighting on who gets to drive my car home when all 3 of us were drunk. They were blackout and I was halfway there but refused to drive because im terrified of dying in a car. I told them I'll call an uber and they proceed to try and kick my a*s and steal my keys but couldnt even walk well enough to make it over to me. Took my keys and walked home. Stopped hanging out with them. January 2020 they were out partying with their boyfriends, all of them drunk decided to leave and no one made it home. Live in a small town and most good housing is "outside city limits" I don't even know who was driving but they sped off a curve at the bottom of a hill that goes nearly straight down to a line of trees and a lake. Only know that much because that exact curve kills 5-10 people a year and at the time I lived 3 miles from where they passed and it was in the local paper. I refuse to swim at that lake anymore. As much as I didnt like them after our fight I really didnt want my literal worst nightmare to happen to them.
This reminds me of a very sad accident in my honetown about 15 years ago: some teenagers were at a party, the boy who was supposed to drive got too drunk and his girlfriend refused to go with him and walked home with a friend instead. They boy ignored all his friends and took the car. In a curve he lost control, crashed to the sidewalk and hit his girlfriend and her friend. Both girls died, he survived with several injuries. Lot of people were unsure if he hit the girls on purpose.
Similar thing in my home town, a teen insisted on driving his moped home drunk, his friends tried to take the key but didn't manage. Then he drove into a huge tree, in a curve in the road. The ONLY tree in that area. Couldn't miss it. But he front collisioned with it, it was like he'd aimed. His best friend was a wreck after that. He walked out there every day. Drunk driving is forbidden in my country for a reason.
Load More Replies...I don’t understand how college students, especially, continue to not think. The Ripple effect that occurs after a tragedy like this seemingly never ends. I have story after story, in high school I lost over 5 close friends to drunk driving crashes. Then as a parent Watching many students at local high schools in Monterey County drive off Big Sur and surrounding areas. Do Not Drink, Do Drugs, Drive High or Drive Altered You could kill yourself, your friends or a total stranger. Your life is over, even if you survive. This is no joke If this post saves one life it will be worth my ranting
My brother's best friend Justin died in a drunk driving crash October 27th, 2000. His friend Tara was driving and wearing her seatbelt, Justin was in the passenger seat not belted in. They were both drunk, neither of them should have been driving. Tara went too fast around a curve in the road and hit a tree head on. Justin was ejected through the windshield 40' away and was decapitated while Tara just had bruises from her seat belt. Tara went to a minimal security mental health facility for 9 months as her punishment.
I don't wish to speak ill of the dead, but in a way, their bad judgment made them pay the ultimate price. I just hope they're in a better place now :-(
5-10 people/year die on that bit of road? ?? Here, after the 3rd crash in one year the govt would damn-near rip up the road and build a different one. (The flipside to this is that all the roads are built for the dumbest and worst drivers in the population and it takes flippin ages to go anywhere.)
I was thinking that! You would think they would put a guard rail or something
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I lived in a house with a bunch of guys. One of them was in electrical engineering. He got a job at Applebees for some extra cash and started having parties with work people after work (so 3-5am). That made it hard to make class so he dropped a semester. We all graduated and he said he would refocus on school soon, but he was having too much fun partying.
I went back to college 20 years later for a football game. He is still working as a waiter at Applebees. He is the creepy guy who acts like he is best friends a with a bunch of 20 year old kids. He’s a mess.
He partied with the right guys and now makes very good money in sales where he parties with clients but the company pays for it.
My cousin is a sales rep for a liquor company. He gets paid to meet celebrities and drink. No, he wasn't a party animal in college, but it's proof that the child of a librarian and factory worker can find a fun job where he's paid very well to schmooze. There's also a huge luck factor, but he's also a good looking 6'-6" guy with a personality just as big and beautiful.
Always be careful, that which makes you can also break you. Meaning the partying and your health
I briefly "dated" someone who was a constant partier and our dating was brief simply because he was always drunk when he came to see me. I Googled him out of mere curiosity to see if he was doing okay and found out he ran over a mom of 4 and killed her one night (he was drunk).
Always get so mad about drunk drivers who claim "it's my life and choice if something happens while I drive drunk" because they NEVER think about others they could hurt or even kill
their addiction lies to them so they believe this stuff. my husband was hit by a drunk driver. the guy's affidavit was insane. He'd bought 2 6 packs to drive his 3 kids back to their mom in PA from NJ. He hit my husband after dropping the kids off thank god. He literally cut my husband's car in half. Thankfully my husband recovered from his injuries.
Load More Replies...Maybe is should depend on how drunk the person is
Load More Replies...I dated (well, was "engaged" to him, but was bullied into saying yes) someone who regularly said that he could do his job better drink thank anyone could sober. He was the chief of a local fire dept and former police officer, so he knew a lot of people, so I guess he was used to getting away with it. Until the day came when he showed up to an active fire drunk and the homeowner threw a fit (rightly so). It could not be swept under the rug this time and eventually, he lost his job (they made him do counseling and drug tested, but he couldn't or wouldn't quit). Lost his very well paying job, his side business went under (he was a raging racist as well), and he ended up working for a gas company somewhere. I was only with him a year, but it was 11 months too many. I tried to leave so many times, but his family and he would always manage to make me stay. They were all good people, I will say that- none of his brothers were like this. Just glad he didn't kill anyone. Especially me.
One of my loser ex boyfriends was drugging his current girlfriend's 3 year old boy with Nyquil and Benedryl when he baby sat him. One day the boy pissed him off so badly that he gave the boy multiple skull fractures. When the police found him he was in the process of hanging himself (Which is the way his father died). He got 10 years in prison.
That’s the Ripple Effect! I’m pretty those 4 children would like their mother back Nice guy
He had a work/party habit that I envied the hell out of, one week he was partying literally every day, next week once his workload increased he was back to studying (and maybe rewarding himself with a spliff or beer after a hard day of working). Now he's on the final year of med school.
A high functioning alcoholic is still an alcoholic. Nothing to be proud of or envy. Just a finger snap from it all falling apart.
I knew someone who was a doctor who partied hard in Med school. She was never satisfied with the life her dad picked for her so at 30 she decided to rebel against him. She posed for a men's magazine and married a rock star past his heydays. Sadly she would die of a massive overdose a few years after they married.
Just got his PHD in Particle physics. Started tutoring on twitch for free. Started clothing brand, djs, holds festivals in desert.
Seems like he’s doing just fine.
There's a difference between a self-destructive party animal and a flourishing party animal.
There was this dude who was doing his PhD in astrophysics, but left when his college band became successful - probably preferred to party. After the lead singer died, he did this and that, and finally went back to finish his PhD 32 years after dropping out. I hear that he's doing pretty well now.
He was able to graduate from college - then went to Aspen and became a gigolo bartender at some hot cocktail lounge. He was always hooking up with different women. He got tired/bored around the age of 30 (his words) so he settled down with one of his hookups and they got married. She was a rich girl from an oil family and her father put my friend in a cush VP job so now he's f*****g rich. He also went rad conservative and is running for local office on an anti-CRT, grooming platform. Havent spoken to him in a few years now. Total twat.
Being a gigolo is excellent preparation for holding political office.
A lot of people downvoted my answer, I was just trying to answer your question not strike up anything political.
Load More Replies...Funny how the folks down voting the folks against CRT, while still telling themselves and each other how "inclusive" and "diverse" they are. Unless you disagree with them, then it's all about shunning people. There's room in this world for more than one opinion.
His trust fund still pays more than twice my salary per month while he makes 200k at a large tech company with his communications degree that he got because his mom was friends with one of the board members.
America - land of opportunists. If you're already well connected, that is.
Load More Replies...Money talks and I don't know that particular lingo, even though I do speak and read several others...
Works for some finance company making what I assume twice my income based on his house, car, and lifestyle. He partied and f****d off through college but if he had one thing going for him it was his ability to socialize and network, even in groups or topics he didn't know anything about. That's where I lacked. Even with my GPA and grades, I think he still would have out performed me(position wise) had I stayed in that field. Goes to show the importance of networking over actual qualifications.
My dad's very wealthy friend once said when i was a teen t's not what you know it's who you know and that made no sense back then. I cant say I know the right people but I've learnt to be able to adapt to whoever in around.
The only thing more advantageous than knowing the rich and powerful is to be born to them.
Load More Replies...I was/ am also very bad at this. My boss pulled me aside one day and told me I needed to eat lunch with the group at least once a week to build up my social network. I'm on the Autism spectrum, so this was torture being the one woman in ten dudes trying to eat and also "read" people. Sure enough, the social butterflies who were less effective got promotions. I was also told my emails were too formal and that I should yell at my subordinates more. Lol.
i am that loser...i partied till i was 34 and as i looked around the bar i ask myself ...why am i here.where did all my friends GO.....they left the bar to go get married and have kids..and work ..it was a sad realization for me
Go to reddit and ask him, the link to the source and username is under the photo. This was 8 months ago so you can see what this realisation has done. (spoiler from quick glance - no changes)
Load More Replies...Reality can hurt when you finally see it. Many people never do. Use it to your advantage! Even strangers like me can care that you do well.
Know a few people who still party like college in their 30’s. It’s not been going so well for a few years.
One has multiple part time jobs all the time to try and pay for his reckless spending. About $400/month on bars, or more. $350 car payment. Rent for a trendy area of town. Lord knows what he spends on clothes. Has many, many credit cards maxed out and not paying minimums. He is really very sad about his life.
Another is less of a financial wreck but still doesn’t make a lot of money, and spends $400+ at bars every month. Routinely shows up to work late, with a hangover and smelling strongly of vodka soda.
Neither can hold a relationship longer than a few weeks. Neither is really happy with life. Both started to look fairly unhealthy around 30 and now look like zombies and have developed more medical issues compared to the ones in our old group who moved on.
I see a lot of posts about perpetual partiers living great lives, but at least in my experience, most don’t do well at all and are unhappy.
Edit: can’t believe that I forgot the guy who died of a heroin od as well.
He got into med school, partied too much and fell behind and was eventually dismissed. Lost the love of his life (who was also in med school). He moved across the country, and found Jesus.
Its just another addiction. Just socially acceptable.
Load More Replies...He was for a while. His parents didn't know where he was and found him in the Temple, remember? (Luke 2:41-52)
Load More Replies...IIt's surface meaning is "became a devout Christian". The subtext can be something else.
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dude has an amazing career, wildly intelligent, has a great house in a warm area etc etc. Absolute drunk tho, i think out of the last 6 times ive spoken to him he's been sober maybe once
That was my brother. Until he wasn't. It works fine as long as his family runs well in private and manages his addition. People like that are on the brink but firmly believe they are on top of everything, not seeing the huge toll on their families. If anything happens the house of cards will just fall down. For my brother it was his wife getting cancer. At that moment, that would have been strenuous and horrible for everyone involved even without a drunkard in the equation, it showed that he was fully dependent on his wife running his family and managing around his addiction. When she couldn't do that anymore, he wasn't even able to hold to his job which had as much job security as even possible. It was a job were it's nearly impossible to fire anyone unless he becomes a huge liability and everything humanly possible fails. But he got fired. His kids went down the drain and gone no contact, he managed to make his house inhabitable to the point of desolation that cannot be repaired.
A couple. Over 5 years they traded their house for cocaine. They broke up. He finally wised up in his early 30's, she was last known to still be a complete mess. Her whereabouts are unknown, she may be homeless.
I know it's totally off the topic, but this is a lovely little house
She literally was dead for a couple minutes in the ER after a heroin od. Miraculously they managed to revive her though, after which she went to some kind of rehab, I’m not sure we kind of lost contact by that point. She’s into plants and owns several cats now.
What's sad about plants and cats? I love my life full of plants and cats. And a garden. And a greenhouse. Nothing feels more relaxing than having a successful green thumb. ☺️
Load More Replies...Thank God she got healthy! More people don’t make it out than we often realize will succumb to their addictions.
Worked at a bar in college, and friends worked at other bars. So I knew a lot of people who drank *a lot.*
Most went on to be in sales or some other job where interpersonal communication skills are more valued than raw academic skills. Some do very well.
It was me.
I drank about a handle a day for my entire 20's. I'm fairly outgoing and have a good degree from a decent school.
I failed upward via smooth talking and the house of cards crumbled eventually
The constant use takes a toll mentally and physically until it just breaks and you can't keep up.
I'm 2 years alcohol free now but I destroyed almost all of my relationships, and had to do some severe crow eating to feel good about myself again.
AA can go f**k themselves tho. Crazy lot.
most AA places just turn your addiction to alcohol into an addiction to their flavour of jesus.
He was a straight A student with a full scholarship. His grades slipped when he started partying. Lost his scholarship and dropped out. Saw him years later working drive through at Carls Jr (Hardee’s). Felt like I was sitting through a lecture from my dad.
Every person's life serves as a warning to himself.
Load More Replies...Had a friend that used to party hard, and had a tendency to pick fights. Awesome dude when sober, completely unstable a*****e when drunk, but directed his drunken rage at strangers. Had a string of fights and arrests, but always got off with a slap on the wrist because he was a very bright guy with great career prospects (solid programmer), and the fights were usually minor with no serious injuries, mostly because he was a garbage fighter. One day, he got into a fight with two guys. The fights spilled over into the street, and he ended up getting run over by a car. Died right there. He was like 23 or 24. This was 20 years ago, and I'm ashamed that I can't remember his name.
After undergrad, he went onto med school to become a Doctor. Intelligent and surprisingly good time-management while partying and doing drugs/drinking a lot. Died from doing cocaine laced with fentanyl one night.
Fentanyl is a killer without regard for age, race, or social status. I'll never understand the concept of lacing other drugs with a substance that will kîll off your consumers, but there's some demented people in the world. People are inherently curious by nature and many will experiment with different substances at some point in time. It's very unfortunate that the first time could be the last time for some due to the malicious people who taint all forms of substances and zero in on young people. From what I read on the news and such, it seems like it's getting to be a scarier place for people. I, by no means, support drug use like this, but I don't judge anyone for what they may have experimented with, and think that no one should die because someone tainted other substances to harm people. I never hear enough about those people being caught and held responsible for the damage they're causing either.
He flunked out of school sophomore year. I heard he joined the Navy and got married, sounds like he cleaned himself up. So that’s nice.
Department of the Navy. Close enough for government work, as my teacher used to say.
Load More Replies...He's my brother, he's an alcoholic school principal. He also DJs on the weekends. He's 52 and tries desperately to be 24.
I'm a decade younger but wouldn't mind my 24 yo body again
Load More Replies...She’s full time employed as an ICU nurse but she seems notably less sharp than when I was in school with her. Others have pointed it out as well. She does a decent job, but her sentences linger, it seems like she takes longer to process information, and she just feels off. It’s like every year that passes is another year that she distances herself from who she once was. And yes, she still parties.
Unfortunately, addiction and mental health concerns aren’t as uncommon as one might think they are in the medical field and similar fields.
I know a certain Nurse Jessie, who couldn't be scared off drugs no matter what! She used to keep her daily dose of drugs in a syringe from infants Tylenol, looked like a needleless syringe, and while applying makeup one day in the passenger seat of her car, her baby (just barely old enough to start facing her car seat forward) had grabbed the Tylenol med dropper full of mommy's drugs, ingested the remaining contents and overdoses, spittle leaking from her mouth as she dies in her car seat, behind her mother in the car. The mom and dad blew crack hits in her face until she woke up, while parked outside of the emergency room---that didn't scare nurse Jessie into sobriety, nope, she s still at it while caring for the elderly in a provider home in this local area.... I hate what these drugs turn people into, horrible selfish, thieving monsters that only have loyalty to their addiction---never fall for anything stating otherwise. It's a sad story, we can't save everyone though
The guy became a bartender and later opened his own successful night club and bar.
One of my best friends was a 24/7 party and total wild child, but had such a bright future ahead of her. Graduated early with 2 bachelors degrees, WITH honors and had a great job in finance that was going to make her mad BANK in a few years. Then she quit to live with her boyfriend and never took on another job. The boyfriend also was unemployed and her parents pretty much funded their life full of drugs and booze. She became heavily addicted to painkillers and an alcoholic. Eventually, the parents cut them off financially and she had a falling out with her parents over it. Shortly afterwards, she cut out her friends as well. Last I heard, they were evicted from their apartment and bouncing around hotels, airbnbs, and shelters for the last year and a half.
He became a VP very early like in his 20’s. His job was to take clients out to bars, dinner, sports events, and the strip clubs after. Things were great. Got married, had two kids. At some point the 5 nights a week of partying caught up to him and he was a full blown alcoholic. He also got addicted to drugs. Sold his car collection to tote the note places for a fraction of what they were worth. Wife and kids left. Last I heard he had a pity job at a friend’s company and even there he was asking for advances on his check. Sucks. I was with him the first time he got drunk and always felt kind of responsible.
Parents pulled him out of college after one semester because he failed every class he was in
Still parties like he’s in college and looks terrible. Horribly overweight, alcoholic, nasty girlfriends that simply use him for his money and party favors. So…not much has changed for him I guess 😂
Met a rich girl, rich girl’s parents bought him a house, now he doesn’t work. Kinda angers me when I’m unemployed with a master’s
Understandable. I often find myself being somewhere on the spectrum from annoyed to angry when someone has an, imo, easy entrance to what I'm fighting for. But I keep tellig myself that I really shouldn't be upset about it because it won't get me that dream job anyway but also because they probably have a hard time in other areas in life that I find easy.
One of my first roommates was that guy. We were both teaching English in Korea. He'd get drunk alone most weeknights and yell at the TV (which was in Korean, and he didn't speak Korean). He'd get totally blacked out on the weekends, and I'd often have to field calls from bars at 2 in the morning. One day he came home and peed all over the kitchen table. Another day, he almost burned the place down when he started making mac and cheese and passed out. I couldn't get out of there fast enough, and he ended up living alone for a while. After a whole bunch of various shenanigans, he eventually got deported. He got into an argument with his neighbor and then went out drinking. He came home and smashed a bookshelf the neighbor had left outside the door. Cops called, and when they came, he pulled a kitchen knife when they came to his door. He was given the choice of deportation or jail. No idea what he's up to now.
I've known many ESL teachers that were similar when I was in my early 20s. None psycho enough to pull knives on cops tho
One’s a doctor, one lives in a towable caravan.
He became an aging stoner dude with two liberal arts degrees who is chronically overqualified, broke, and bored at every job.
People are so careless with the word 'overqualified'. No, when you can't get a job in the field you're qualified for and land in a mediocre job in a different field, you are NOT overqualified. You might even be underqualified in your current, mediocre position when all your qualifications are unrelated. Just because you're a medical engineer doesn't mean you're qualified to be a chef and not overqualified when you do work as a chef with that degree. You need different qualifications for different jobs, and you are only overqualified for your job when you have higher qualification for a higher job in the same field but there are no free jobs in that exact position but the job you got is beneath that position but in the same field of qualification.
We aren’t friends anymore. I can’t be picking people up from the floor and putting myself in bad situations so she can have a “fun” night out. You don’t really get how addiction hurts other people until you are on the receiving end of abuse when they are drunk and fake apologies/ “I don’t remember” when they sober up. I think she’s still in law school and she’s rich so she wont actually have consequences for her actions until someone or herself is irreversibly hurt. It also puts you on EDGE when you see them pull out a bottle or get a glass of something because who knows what dr. Jekyll/mr Hyde b******t is coming down the pipe.
Totally relate. Someone doesn't even have to be hurtful when they're drunk or high for their behaviour to hurt you hard.
He decided to do a commercial pilot license. Spent so much money on the training and the partying that his debts overtook him. Here, most airlines don't accept pilot candidates with outstanding debts or criminal records. He never got to fly a plane. He still owes a lot of people small to medium amounts of money.
Accepted a menial job writing technical manuals
I've got two at basically the opposite end of the spectrum: 1. The one that did the right type of partying and parlayed it into being the "fun guy" around the office. He's now making bank for a now well known Point of Sale company that if you're a small business basically anywhere in the states you're probably aware of them either because you use them or through their marketing material. He met a wonderful woman eventually that meshes with him really well, and even though he always said he'd never get married he seems to be enjoying that life. 2. After collage he's been in and out of rehab drugs and alcohol, he gets just clean enough to get on his feet and start making decent money, starts looking like things will turn around, and then faster than you can blink he's right back in the gutter. I largely blame his parents at this point as they've been his safety net every time, and I feel like they should have cut bait 5 years ago after his third time in rehab on their dime. This last time he lasted long enough to even buy a house and car. They're paying his mortgage, car payments, and utilities while he's in rehab. How is he going to learn if he literally has nothing to lose?
Case #2 reminds me of the guy I dated in high school . Although we broke up shortly after high school we had kept in platonic contact once in a while over the years. His parents had always enabled him, I remember his mother making excuses for him every time he got into trouble. His drinking and pot smoking never stopped and today he has no career let alone any job at all. He is now 40 and living at home, never moved out. He paints a little bit on the side. Last winter my fiancé and I visited him to buy a couple of paintings from him. His poor mother was there and looked absolutely drained.
Sometimes I think of myself as “that one friend who never stopped partying” because I drink more than most of my friends, plus I still smoke which most of my friends seem to have outgrown (we’re all late 20s/early 30s now). But I live abroad now and have my masters and lead a research group and make a lot more money than most of my friends. In other words, I’ve done okay for myself. I realize that even though I’ve still got some healthy changes I need to make in my life, when I’m back in the states, sometimes I hang out with one friend in particular who just really kept PARTYING after college (which I have largely stopped, my drinking has migrated to like a 2-3 beers at a bar with friends). He’s just always done odd jobs after college and it didn’t occur to me until a few years ago he’s a major alcoholic and is still dating really young girls. He’s finally in group therapy and I’m really rooting for him but I dunno, his life makes me sad. Weird to think back on the times when we were all just partying to excess and seeing that some people just got stuck there. We were talking recently and he mentioned his blackouts keep getting scarier - which was concerning to hear that he’s been having drinking blackouts regularly. Even more concerning that it seemed normal to him. :(
She is a mess. Blatant alcohol problem. Every time I see her in public an emotional breakdown is forthcoming.
I am giving them a ride to rehab this afternoon.
Works for an investment bank and was published in the FT recently. Unless their habits have changed, that article was started an hour and a half before deadline and they did several 'cheeky bumps' throughout to keep them 'focused'
She has the suburban house, kids in a good school who play all the sports, luxury minivan, house mom life... but is still a raging alcoholic. Poor kids.
I could talk about myself here actually, except I never stopped smoking weed after college. I was addicted and let it be my whole mind and body. It kept me from achieving my dreams and desires. I finally stopped just two months ago, had a life changing epiphany, and I have the job of my dreams. Literally love my job and its exactly what I wanted to do since I was a kid. Never going back to those habits.
He overdosed, blacked out and fell off a balcony at a hotel and hit the pavement so hard his mother couldn’t recognize him.
He got married, then divorced. He got fat. He drives a truck for the Red Cross. He still parties, but at a lower level.
He robbed a train with the Russian mob, and now appears on TV specials and podcasts.
He's an accountant. He moved from New York to Utah. He broke his femur while skiing in Denver The screws rusted and he caught an infection swimming in Broken Bow Lake in Oklahoma He makes more money with a bachelors than I will with my Masters Everyone talks about his newest wildest adventure and then says how they're worried about him, gathered every other month on their apartment porches and in small living rooms that haven't changed size since graduation a decade ago. He lives in a massive Condo his job purchased for him after his previous apartment burned down. He's taking his third vacation this summer next week in Lebanon. He's fine.
Pretty successful event organizer now that he turned his lifestyle into a business. Not bad actually, plus he got a f**k ton of connections from all the friends he made. But i mean he was always one of those "work hard, party hard" people so I'm not really surprised that he's successful now.
The only two outcomes are dying and being stuck in a dead end job or using those party/social skills to become wildly successful, there’s no in between.
He’s dead. Overdose. We rarely remember him as time passes. -
He turned 50 and had his first kid just last year. Everyone who knows him has had the same reaction: eyebrows shoot up, “wow”, knowing laugh, condolences to his young wife, then for the next hour crazy stories are shared. He has a good career and friends, but a lot of wreckage behind him. People from his past don’t have any interest in maintaining a relationship but are polite when he’s around
He graduated with a 4.0 and two published papers. High functioning alcoholics are on another level
He just had the breathalyzer removed from his vehicle that he crashed in when he received his 3rd DWI… small town, news spreads fast. Good & bad..
He ended up calming down, but never finished school. Eventually got married and had a family, but works in a backbreaking manual labor field that doesn't pay well. I guess things could be worse, but he had a lot of potential and is/was a smart guy that could be doing better.
He has finished three years of a four year nursing degree, but has not completed his senior year, for two years now. Im not sure about specifics but I have to imagine that you can’t just pick up where you left off a number of years down the road
I too was working on my nursing degree while dating someone who’s mind never really left college. One side of him was as my boyfriend and the other was an alcohol-cocaine-sex addict. I slowly started slipping down the drug-alcohol path with him while in nursing school. Then one day, I decided enough was enough and wanted to break up. He talked me into staying. 6 months later he asked me to give him a lift to the airport to visit some friends from college, which I did. Not long after I came across the discovery that the trip he went on, was to visit a college ex girlfriend and spend the weekend with her. So I ended it with him. A few days later he wants “closure” so I stupidly go to his house and we get to drinking. I became so enraged I physically attacked him which I 100% should NOT have done. I got into trouble with the law, and rightfully so, in hindsight. I fought tooth and nail to finish nursing school and eventually get licensed, all while he was emailing me (I blocked his number) and stalking me
for 10 months after my arrest. Now I work as a nurse manager. I learned a whole lot from this humbling experience. And I am now engaged to someone who respects me and supports me in healthy ways. We are getting married next month.
Load More Replies...Friend of mine is like that, and he will finish up his PhD this summer. Having said that, it did take him quite a few years. But he has done it nonetheless
Moves from dead end job to dead end job, has no steady place to stay, lots of health issues, and is the king of “vague booking.”
cryptic/vague facebook posts like, "sigh, sometimes it is the way it is..." or "I wonder why is it always me?" with the hope that one of the morons on their friend list will engage them so the person can say" you wont understand". fishing for attention.
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They’re being paid for it now.
Executive Client Relations. To land the big clients you take them partying.
Load More Replies...I finally retired from selling weed and I live in a nice house in Palm Springs.
Palm Springs is in California... Seems like now IS the time to be selling weed there. A lot of good money in the industry.
It takes mental and physical fortitude to party heavy and consistent. Those skills transfer easily to a job. Especially with social skills diminishing
There's a very perplexing myth that people who have fun as young men and women will eventually get their comeuppances, but truthfully most of them have excellent social and interpersonal skills, are very hard working (because the lifestyle they enjoy isn't cheap) and end up doing extremely well for themselves, as this thread is proving. It's the nerds with no social skills who end up struggling, interestingly.
Not my life experience, no. The successful party people are loud and present so it seems that they are more successful. But if you look closer, that only works with tons of money, usually from outside. If they make their money themselves they all go down as soon as their addiction impairs their health and their work. This person didn't read the gull threat, there's more than enough proof that partying is not the source of guaranteed success they seem to want it to be
I lost track of them Seems to always be the way it is with certain personality types, at one point or other they seem to just completely drop off the face of the earth never to be seen or heard from again
The guy I know, he ended up getting his accounting degree, passed the CPA exam, got married, had a few kids, and is living a productive standard middle class life. His wife knows his partying past. I remember when we strapped a gopro camera to him when he went bing drinking so he could see what happened to him when drunk (as he said he never remembered). His wife has seen that video, and thusly has banned him from getting that drunk ever again.
His name was Steve. The guy was incredibly smart and came from a well-off family (they had their own private library room - I was SO jealous), and was studying for a degree in engineering. He also looked like a Viking and could drink anyone under the table. I once saw him chug directly from a beer keg while holding it over his head one-handed, and when someone said hey slow down there buddy he said, and I quote, "I wanna still be drunk when I get to work tomorrow." (Fittingly, he worked in a bottle shop). He also talked a lot about his various hookups. Super fun guy but yeah, not exactly the responsible type. Last year I bumped into him at the mall after not having seen him in a long time, and he still has the Viking beard but he told me he was getting married and becoming a stepfather so by the looks of things he's put his wild ways behind him.
Or you know... he's gonna raise another Viking
Load More Replies...WayneOSr Unless you’re a Marine you have no idea how hard can we party.. I was the hard fighting hard drinking Marine until I meet the right lady. Returning to the states ran into a fellow Marine who committed “wow, you look ten years younger!” I had quit smoking and drinking. Had a very successful career in the Corps and retired after 30 years.
I tell people I got good at drinking and being an a*****e in the marines.
Load More Replies...2 people come to mind. Both from rich background. One, who people talked about as very promising, is dead - crashed a car while speeding home form the party drunk. Other one, who was a "lost cause", became a young father and now owns a successful company and is a single father of 3. One of the most respected people in town.
Someone from high school who comes to mind is a guy named Jeff. I definitely was more of a partier myself and considered a screw off (maybe the biggest) even though I'm in Mensa. The difference was I got good grades and was an athlete while he "didn't care enough to even try" based on perception. People thought I was crazy when I'd say he was the smartest guy I knew. Teacher's called him a seat warmer. Sure enough, Jeff got the highest scores on the ACT and SAT, while I got 2nd and 3rd respectively. I transferred schools the following year and I'm still curious what the school did when they realized his intelligence. The guy's IQ had to be in the 150's. I'd bet money that he's successful.
that guy was me, tried to get a degree from various universities, failed miserably due to my poor learning habits and the feeling i was missing out on everything if i did not attend any party. finally took the right lane and became a social worker, its been 12 years now and sometimes i'm jealous when i see some of my old classmates having paid off their houses, driving nice cars and having families. It's not that i want that for me, i live a good life and earn good money, i have a beautiful girlfriend and and a nice flat, but sometimes i wonder what could have happened if i had taken another more successful path in life.
Most of us from high school gave it up and live middle class lives and except for the guy in and out prison for the past 30 years. From college prett much the same except the guy who started a DJ business then started taking peoples money and not showing up to the events… he had to leave the state. One douche bag died of brain cancer in 2009.
The one I know after a couple decade's hard partying/drinking/doing drugs, gave everything up, got married to his childhood sweetheart, had a bunch of kids (5 or 6, I couldn't keep up!). That's the nice part. The bad part is that the previous lifestyle caught up with him and he's pretty much bed ridden; and two of his kids are following the same path of partying and drugs, another one is in trouble for shoplifting
I was like this till like, 40, I think. Stopped when I had kids and a serious job to look after.
The guy I know, he ended up getting his accounting degree, passed the CPA exam, got married, had a few kids, and is living a productive standard middle class life. His wife knows his partying past. I remember when we strapped a gopro camera to him when he went bing drinking so he could see what happened to him when drunk (as he said he never remembered). His wife has seen that video, and thusly has banned him from getting that drunk ever again.
His name was Steve. The guy was incredibly smart and came from a well-off family (they had their own private library room - I was SO jealous), and was studying for a degree in engineering. He also looked like a Viking and could drink anyone under the table. I once saw him chug directly from a beer keg while holding it over his head one-handed, and when someone said hey slow down there buddy he said, and I quote, "I wanna still be drunk when I get to work tomorrow." (Fittingly, he worked in a bottle shop). He also talked a lot about his various hookups. Super fun guy but yeah, not exactly the responsible type. Last year I bumped into him at the mall after not having seen him in a long time, and he still has the Viking beard but he told me he was getting married and becoming a stepfather so by the looks of things he's put his wild ways behind him.
Or you know... he's gonna raise another Viking
Load More Replies...WayneOSr Unless you’re a Marine you have no idea how hard can we party.. I was the hard fighting hard drinking Marine until I meet the right lady. Returning to the states ran into a fellow Marine who committed “wow, you look ten years younger!” I had quit smoking and drinking. Had a very successful career in the Corps and retired after 30 years.
I tell people I got good at drinking and being an a*****e in the marines.
Load More Replies...2 people come to mind. Both from rich background. One, who people talked about as very promising, is dead - crashed a car while speeding home form the party drunk. Other one, who was a "lost cause", became a young father and now owns a successful company and is a single father of 3. One of the most respected people in town.
Someone from high school who comes to mind is a guy named Jeff. I definitely was more of a partier myself and considered a screw off (maybe the biggest) even though I'm in Mensa. The difference was I got good grades and was an athlete while he "didn't care enough to even try" based on perception. People thought I was crazy when I'd say he was the smartest guy I knew. Teacher's called him a seat warmer. Sure enough, Jeff got the highest scores on the ACT and SAT, while I got 2nd and 3rd respectively. I transferred schools the following year and I'm still curious what the school did when they realized his intelligence. The guy's IQ had to be in the 150's. I'd bet money that he's successful.
that guy was me, tried to get a degree from various universities, failed miserably due to my poor learning habits and the feeling i was missing out on everything if i did not attend any party. finally took the right lane and became a social worker, its been 12 years now and sometimes i'm jealous when i see some of my old classmates having paid off their houses, driving nice cars and having families. It's not that i want that for me, i live a good life and earn good money, i have a beautiful girlfriend and and a nice flat, but sometimes i wonder what could have happened if i had taken another more successful path in life.
Most of us from high school gave it up and live middle class lives and except for the guy in and out prison for the past 30 years. From college prett much the same except the guy who started a DJ business then started taking peoples money and not showing up to the events… he had to leave the state. One douche bag died of brain cancer in 2009.
The one I know after a couple decade's hard partying/drinking/doing drugs, gave everything up, got married to his childhood sweetheart, had a bunch of kids (5 or 6, I couldn't keep up!). That's the nice part. The bad part is that the previous lifestyle caught up with him and he's pretty much bed ridden; and two of his kids are following the same path of partying and drugs, another one is in trouble for shoplifting
I was like this till like, 40, I think. Stopped when I had kids and a serious job to look after.
