“Invisible Lat Syndrome”: 35 Red Flags That Men See In Other Men, As Shared In This Thread
Being kind, treating others with dignity, and respecting others’ boundaries—this sounds like common sense to many people. It’s how any civil and self-confident individual ought to behave. Unfortunately, common sense is in short supply at times… as is basic politeness.
One internet user asked the men of the r/AskReddit online community to open up and share the obvious red flags that they’ve noticed in other men. The question started an in-depth discussion about toxic masculinity, and we’ve collected some of the most egregious examples of it. Scroll down for a crash course on how to never treat other human beings.
This post may include affiliate links.
Being a modern day Republican in the US. If he votes in favor of diminishing human rights, how do you think your relationship will go? Does he truly respect women if he is Ok with the removal of bodily autonomy? Will he respect your future kids if they are homosexual or transgender? I get that people change, but I would never set a girlfriend of mine up with someone I know to be republican.
I haven't voted for any Republicans in a long time. I always considered myself a right of center independent. Which means I am a full blown leftist now. For all the talk of liberals being communists I don't see a lot of soviet flags or Mao banners... on the right I do see a lot of nazi flags, confederate flags, etc. If you can march or align yourself with them, you are not on the good side.
I agree with everything you said but I'd never even considered the whole flag aspect, you're totally right.
Load More Replies...Get real ... Democrats and Republicans both suck. They're two different sides of the same filthy coin, and to think otherwise is to expose your own biases. We need the rise of a 3rd party ASAP!
Stop with both-isms. Democrats policy platform is to help EVERYONE (aside from the elites who already have enough everything). The republican side meanwhile wants the US to become a dictatorship to Trump. One side literally tried to overthrow the government. The worst thing Dems have going for them is their disorganization (which they have slowly been fixing). If you truly think "both sides" are just as bad, then you are just plain ignorant of facts. Facts don't care about your feelings or political views. Remember when on Live TV Trump asked Russia to interfere in the election? Remember when Trump refused to condemn white supremacy/Nazism? Remember Jan. 6th? Remember the fake elector plot? Remember the 4 years long congressional committee Trump created to look into voter fraud? They spent 4 years and millions of dollars to discover Voter Fraud is basically non-existent. And yet he still went/goes on about "voter fraud"! The man LITERALLY had the vocabulary of an 8 yo. Look it up!
Load More Replies...The polarization has affected USA like cancer. About half the country votes Democrat, about half votes Republican. If you can only think of the other side as "communist" and "nazi", then the social discourse has broken down. Stop spreading hate and talk to the other side. Ask them about their believes and motivations. You might find them more rational and compassionate than you give them credit for (at least most of them). If you flee to your own camp, there is only one outcome possible; violence. Stop this madness!
"Half" the country doesn't vote Republican considering there's both significantly more registered Dems AND since '92, the only time the GOP won the popular vote was in '04 which was more about Kerry's weakness than Bush's strength, plus that's still not counting the ex-GOP who became Independents since at least '08 out of disgust for what the GOP's become. That "Both Sides" c**p only made too many people unprepared/complacent for the Trumps, DeSantises, etc. that both reflect and reinforce said toxicity and Trumpers have made it ADAMANTLY clear the GOP is becoming/already *is* a white supremacist/fascist party be it the Tiki Torch Boys, hosting Orban, the book bans, the anti-voter measures and literally trying to LYNCH the VP for not doing what he legally wasn't capable of doing as the Trump-led mob tried to kill the entire line of succession! Trumps have been given PLENTY of opportunities to express their thoughts, beliefs, etc. so there's no "mistaking" what they're about 🙄
Load More Replies...A friend of mine has an embroidered pillow reading "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican".
I wouldn't set my friends up with people with opposite beliefs in this world, either! But, to suggest a Republican is a lesser human is just like what Germans did to the Jewish. Be careful what seeds you sow and water, hate is an ugly weed.
thank you im not republican or democrat but you know this hate for the other side is crazy its just different views doesn't make them dirty and horribly evil like wtf?
Load More Replies...This is absurd. Both Democrats and Republicans have become the worst thing to America in the last 20 yrs. Both have done nothing but regress the country in almost every way possible. And there’s no apparent end to the bickering. THey need to be divorced and a 3rd Independent party formed.
I'm reminded of Charlotte Clymer at a party when a guy randomly came up to her insisting, "I vote Republican, but I'm liberal" as he *clearly* wanted her to "absolve" him of his guilt as a transwoman despite the obvious fact that he's explicitly voting for the policies and politicians who see her very human rights and very existence as invalid. And TOO. MANY. people here are falling into the same weak "Both Sides" narrative that's a big reason why we're in the political mess that we've been in for years now as Republicans are removing human rights right and left, banning books, caping for a mob that LITERALLY TRIED TO KILL THE ENTIRE LINE OF SUCCESSION and more yet, "bOtH aRe bAd!" 🙄😒🤨
It's very hard these days, especially with family and friends who champion and share everything these people say. How am I supposed to look them in the eyes when they tell me they are rooting for the people who want to take away my rights? When they want to deny my trans friends the right to exist? What am I supposed to say to you when you vote for a person who thinks a 10 year old who was raped by her father should be forced to carry the child to term?
All these people that are downvoting everyone for saying that both sides suck, or that there needs to be a third party (when really there should never have been parties to begin with) or that people can identify as republican or democrat and not agree with all the stereotypical beliefs... Y'all realize you're part of the problem right? There was a time when most people identified as moderate, and people could exist happily as friends with someone with an opposing view point. But social media, the government and the news have us so polarized that we consider everyone to be all or nothing and hate each other for beliefs that the other may not even have. Fact is all politicians, especially at the federal level, are corrupt. And both sides are plenty happy to see us at each others throats and not actually doing anything to stop the corruption because the "opposing party" is a perfect scapegoat. But sure, keep the status quo with your self-righteousness.
Using terms like Alpha, Beta and Sigma unironically.
The best part? The whole 'alpha' thing is based on incorrect data. The alpha wolf myth was based on studies of wolves IN CAPTIVITY. So it was basically wolf prison behavior. In REAL wolf packs, the alpha is the father. His job is to make sure his pack (which are all family) is fed and safe and happy. So that guy with the waistpack full of snacks making sure his kids and his friends are eating and drinking enough? That is the truest alpha male.
Exactly. If you call YOURSELF that it's just 😬, but if a woman who is kind, compassionate, and tolerant, and probably liberal, calls you an alpha male, the "Father of the pack" kind of behaviour is what is meant.
Load More Replies...I'll let you call yourself alpha, beta, or sigma if you can name the other 21 letters of the ancient Greek alphabet.
I had a male friend, who's now an ex friend, who was obsessed but these things. He kept saying that he was aware he was not an alpha male and he aspired to be an alpha male and was terrified people would think of him as gay. I was embarrassed for him honestly.
The guy who coined those terms (refering to wolves) actually took them back. There is no Qlpha, no Beta, etc. I'd get in to more detail but I forgot the other stuff.
I really dislike men who start lusting and talking about a woman's a*s, breasts, etc. to me, trying to get me to agree. (And they'd assume that I would, since I'm a guy as well.)
Some people just can't keep those thoughts to themselves.
Edit: I really appreciate how I am not alone on this. Sometimes it feels like I am, since those perverts are often the loudest.
this one is top for me. in one of my workplaces it's extremely bad and most guys there act like animals. it's like they get paid to flirt and be perverted. I do my best to be respectful and lead by example, but often I find myself straight up telling them off because it's just too much. It's especially bad when they try to get me to assist and be their wingman. Like, dude, I'm a father of a 16yo daughter, I'm the opposite of your wingman. I will eat you alive, kid. F**k right off with that s**t.
This happened to me in my workplace, a guy making the worst taste comments I never heard in a professional context... and he was like 10 years younger than me, and the girls were students (18-23, not under these ages)... And I was his f*****g director! His trial period ended soon.
Load More Replies...I also agree. Are they trying to prove they are 'Manly'? I think they are proving they are insecure about themselves.
The blame goes right straight to the heart of the 'modern' definition of "dating!' To date is to court , to get to know someone as a person. To find out that persons beliefs, culture, likes and dislikes. To learn all about that person as someone you may want to love, spend your life with to maybe raise a family together ... not a forgettable, one time, sex object. Todays youth are showing great disregard for their own well-being and futures, by using sex as a casual, feel good toy. That shows ignorance, foolishness and a very destructive, dangerous lifestyle. If you want nothing but sex, go buy it! Never make promises of 'love' just to get sex. That's selfish, cruel & heartless.
The redditors revealed some of the most hurtful aspects of toxic masculinity they spied in other men, whether they were their friends or casual acquaintances. It’s the kind of behavior that is very obviously a red flag and would make practically anyone think hard about whether that’s the kind of company they’d like to keep.
Some of the most awful examples included guys who would constantly criticize their family, men who’d make fun of others (but couldn’t stand being the butt of jokes), uncontrollable flirts, and anyone not in control of their temper. Other red flags that caught people’s attention included guys who would never apologize, were arrogant, and trampled over other folks’ privacy and boundaries.
"Women don't like good guys like me"
Good guys don't have to self assure themselves that they are good guys.
Well, it's not that women don't like good guys like you. It's simply that they don't like you, period.
And, apparently you're not as good a guy as you thought.
Load More Replies...It is possible to be a good guy and have little social appeal. But then you have to ask yourself why that is. Are you just very introverted, or is it something else?
This should be everywhere. I nowadays see a lot of 'good guys' complaining about this in internet. Makes me wonder if they really are 'good guys' cause good guys shouldn't think that women are obliged to date or like them .
If you think women are going to throw themselves at you simply because your a good guy, then your just your not trying hard enough. There's much more to attraction than being good.
For one thing, it's a numbers game. If you get obsessively focused on one woman you will miss the subtle (and not so subtle signs from others). And that's assuming they aren't turned off because you're ignoring them in favour of whoever your unattainable crush happens to be. If your crush doesn't reciprocate, get over it, move on and try to find someone else. Sooner or later you'll find someone you mesh with.
Load More Replies...Too many "Good Guys" suddenly become not good guys once their real personalities come out.
My mantra in life: I'm not a bad guy, I'm not a good guy, I'm just THAT guy (To those who know me well enough, they know what it means. For those who don't, be my friend and find out. But beware, you might actually regret finding out what THAT means XP *kidding obviously*)
Random guys I meet through work showing me nudes a girl has sent them.
Like seriously, those aren’t meant to be shared.
Well, this is disgusting. But it´s beyond my mind why is somebody so stupid and sending nudes to anyone?
Well as a woman sometimes my friends and I will show d**k pics, because it’s impressive and we talk about our bedroom lives, only some friends though and we make sure that we’re both comfortable, and we always ask the guy “hey are you ok with me showing my friend your d**k pic?” And most of the time they say yes cause they’re confident about it and we only ever bad mouth the people who send unsolicited d**k pics and show those to each other like “wtf a dude randomly dmed me with this and he’s just a friends friend”
Load More Replies...Good chance the woman in question never was or is no longer his girlfriend.
Matt Gaetz, anyone? He not only did this, he did on the floor of the Senate, while Congress was in session.
Men who can joke about others but can’t take it. (Can be applied to women too)
Especially when the jokes they make are just plain mean. My uncle is a prime example. He will mock anyone and everyone over just about anything, but don't you dare make even the slightest joke about him
Or if they are unable to make any jokes that AREN’T about other people
At its core, toxic masculinity is the dark side of manliness and negatively impacts other people. According to WebMD, guys who embrace toxic masculinity are often homophobic, sexually aggressive toward women, violent, and promiscuous.
Moreover, proponents of toxic masculinity have a deep need for control and ‘dominate’ everyone around them, including their romantic partners. A 2017 report ‘The Man Box’ found that 46% of men ‘deserved’ to know where their partners were at all times.
If you hear a little voice inside you that says "I can change this man", he is not the man for you.
I wouldn't be that radical about that... but no doubt it's a risky deal
It's a no-deal. People do not genuinely change unless they themselves want to change. Any "change" that someone sorta forces another person into will be fleeting. Go, Spain!
Load More Replies...Men marry women with the hope they will never change. Women marry men with the hope they will change. Invariably they are both disappointed.
Wanting to change someone does not necessarily mean they are a bad person, it just means they are not the right person for you.
I think it depends on what you want to change too. Is it something minor like "forgets to leave the toilet seat down" or is it "sleeps around on a regular basis"? If it's the former then yeah that might change. If it's the latter not so much.
Load More Replies...Maske sure the male in question is a lot younger than you. The last opportunity to actually change a guy is when he's in diapers.
So you're saying to be a good parent so as to, hopefully, mold a decent person/partner in their adulthood, correct? Cuz your wording could sound like you're advocating for dating or banging any baby-dudes...aaaand I'm not comfortable with that. 🤣🤣 Joke, joke, I know what you actually meant but couldn't withhold a fabulous IASIP line.
Load More Replies...If you feel this about someone that you can change him/her/them then you need to remember you're not a rehab or reform home.
And then if the man is changed enough the girl leaves him because he isn´t the guy anymore she fell for.
Bartender here...
- They don't respond well to the word "no"
- They argue for no other reason than to maintain their ego
- They use staring as a flirting technique
- They talk over you in conversation
- They get wildly uncomfortable when their partner is casually talking to somebody else in a public place
- They order Fireball, Hennessy, Patron, or a Long Island
- "What's the strongest you got bro?"
- Flashing money
We had a guy who brought his dates to our restaurant. He was a barfly that was always there. Anyway, his power move was to complain and send his food back. We would then put it on a new plate and send it back out... he never noticed. What a douchebag.
sometimes the best medicine is that everyone is laughing at him behind his back.
Load More Replies...Former bartender here: -They order a drink with hard liquor and, rather than ask for a double, they say, "Make it strong!" -They are poured a double to "make it strong", they're charged accordingly, and then complain when they get their bill. (This goes for anyone.)
Also a former bartender, centuries ago. "What's the strongest you have?" "Coffee." I never was able to resist, and the coffee _was_ strong (able enough to defend itself - Tom Waits).
Load More Replies...ugh... 90% of my guy friends "Argue for no other reason than to maintain their ego" - it gets stupid... they're so intent on that 'ego maintenance plan' that they completely ignore that I've already said "You have a point there - and that's fine and correct.. and here is another angle to look at it that doesn't interfere with the point you just made" - nooooo they just keep arguing. and arguing... they'll even contradict themselves JUST to be 'right'.
Woah woah woah woah. What is wrong with Patron? Especially the coffee liqueur, beats an espresso martini any day.
I want to know why ordering a Long Island is considered toxic male behavior? Is this new? I have not been "clubbing" for about 25 years.
It’s simply because it’s quite strong drink if made properly and even if not made properly the list of ingredients lean towards tough guy masculinity type of person. You’ve got the 5 white spirits and people think “Yeah! That’ll get me twatted!” And quite often if they don’t know what they’re dealing with they will be legless sooner or later and on their way down they will definitely have at least 30 minutes of being an unbearable plonker. I used to order LIIT as a shot, a bit like tequila hold the coke and give me a slice of lemon. My memory is hazy but I am probably guilty of being a plonker every now and then. Not touched a drop in years though thankfully. Hasn’t change my life but at least I know if I’m being a plonker.
Load More Replies...Fireball is associated with college students. Hennessy is a cheaper whiskey that sounds expensive. Patron is name dropping, and a LI has every clear liquor in it so it's just a way to get drunk fast. I'm guessing at these.
Load More Replies...By remarkable coincidence, all their exes were 'crazy.'
"If wherever you go there's an a*****e. It's you, you're the a*****e."
"They were all crazy? Mmm, let's see, what did they all have in common besides that?"
"All had to deal with a a*****e like me" - words that are never said
Load More Replies...It's one thing to realise that your exes had flaws, but it's another thing for them all to coincidentally be "crazy"
Personally I don't refer to any of my exes that way, however I used to be exceptionally good at attracting crappy people. Probably the kindest thing I ever did for myself was to stop dating and start working on my self-esteem. It's really lonely sometimes especially because I'm at the age where people's children are getting older and hitting milestones but since my last one ended with me contemplating a restraining order and self-harm due to his behaviour giving me panic attacks, I know it's for the best. So if you know someone who is generally super quiet or a pushover/ struggles with mental health issues and they are repeatedly complaining about their relationships, try and encourage them to see if the problem might be that they are getting with anyone willing to ask them out.
Toxic men also often refuse to help out with the housework because they think it’s unmanly. Instead, they view household chores as something that only women ought to do. Around a fifth of American men believe they shouldn’t have to help out at home at all, according to ‘The Man Box’ report. The same report noted that just over a fifth of men thought that they should “use violence to get respect.”
Some guys also frown upon men who show their emotions because they consider that to be a sign of weakness. However, this is a very dangerous perspective because it makes men less likely to ask for help if they’re struggling with mental or physical health issues.
Meanwhile, a man who is perfectly comfortable in his own skin and an example of healthy masculinity is someone who embraces his emotions, isn’t afraid of his own feminine aspects, and self-reflects on his actions. He’s also respectful of other people’s boundaries and doesn’t mind other people challenging his opinions.
Thinking their entitled to a GF just because they’re a male
Thinking they are entitled to GF who looks like supermodel, just because they're male.
Thinking that every female that doesn't look like a model is beneath them.
Load More Replies...I think DrBronxx was being sarcastic? I can't even tell anymore but the asterisks make me lean that way
Load More Replies...
Being unable to control their temper.
They usually are perfectly able to control their temper, they just don't want to.
This picture is probably what I look like trying to get those bloody automated phone systems to give me a live human person to talk to 😂
I look at how a man treats 'unattractive' women and other men, especially in places like restaurants. It's all well and good if he's polite and nice towards a waitress who's attractive but try pay closer attention to how he treats those he doesn't see in that same way and see if you can spot a stark difference!
Thank goodness this is something at least one other guy notices and is not cool with. I admit I get more than a little annoyed at 'friends' who have watched and shrugged off when I (or another 'plain' person... or person they can't 'gain' from) are mistreated to inhuman levels ... it's like they're agreeing "If you're not attractive, why does it matter if they're rude to you?" - I've given them the "What the actual heck? Thanks for having my back, buddy... let me give the knife back to you." and they just "huh? What... I didn't see anything".
I actually prefer older waitresses that act like moms, that makes me a lot more comfortable than a hot young lady.
Haha I used to feel the same when I first started work. The middle aged and older ladies at the cafeteria always did the "oh you're so skinny you need more food" thing all the time.
Load More Replies...I’m not gonna go out of my way to treat an ugly person poorly, but don’t kid yourself about treating them equally as someone far more attractive. That’s straight up human nature. Unless you really want to tell me you are Mother Teressa level of goodness. Which I would find highly unbelievable.
Believe me, I'm a nice guy.
Actions speak louder than words. Some sayings stick around for a reason.
If you hear this, run! Avoid engaging with this person as much as possible.
Just saw instagram post from "nice guy": "Women only want to date really bad men." No, they just don't want to date YOU.
If i have to be sold on the idea of it... then its probably.not for me
Everyone is supposed to be nice. It's not a trait to highlight.
"nice" is an internet-term for the guys who are douchebags, biggots etc. But say they are a "nice guy™"
Load More Replies...
Talking about how many women they've shagged without being asked.
Describing a woman like a piece of meat rather than just saying "she's nice/hot" i.e "look at the tits on that" or "love to tap that a*s"
Always wanting to get shitfaced when out rather than just have a few drinks.
Getting into fights.
Nothing wrong in admiring beauty, but remember - many times the true beauty is hidden by a plain wrapper.
Well, by saying a female has nice tits or a nice a*s is just a compliment. This is the way some females present themselves to society so why can’t we judge them based on that?
Constantly s**t talking their wife or girlfriend. Always saying how horrible they are and such a b***h. Then I finally meet them at a get together or something and they are always nice. The guy will act completely different around her also, “yes dear” type of s**t. Then back at work the next day s**t talking her. Grow the f**k up
The ole' ball n' chain c**p. Dude, if it's that bad then get a divorce and shut up. Or just shut up.
I've never understood this 'humor'. All the comics and jokes with the "I hate my spouse" 'punchline. Why are you married to someone you hate?
I don't mind gentle ribbing with your partner in the room as long as it's give and take. Slamming your spouse with the "bros" definitely not cool.
Consistent lack of personal hygiene
This can also be a sign of depression though, so it might not always be a personality problem.
True, though untreated depression is also not very conductive to dating. It can work, but don't rely on it. Source: I suffer from depression and I wouldn't date myself when I've got a depressive episode.
Load More Replies...This could also be a cultural difference. Things like deodorant and daily bathing aren't as common in some countries as they are in the U.S. This doesn't mean they have bad hygiene they are just used to different standards.
Going out with younger women with a large age gap. It suggests to me that they like control and manipulation and compliance.
Can't agree with this. I know a couple of couples where the man is 15 - 20 years older and they are probably the happiest couples I know.
It entirely depends on the woman's age at the start of the relationship. A 40 year old man dating an 18 year old girl? Definitely questionable. A 50 year old man with a 30 year old woman? More likely to be an equitable, balanced relationship.
Load More Replies...My wife is ten years younger than me, met at 27 and 37. It's never been weird for us or anyone we know. There are limits, but not every relationship like that is based on manipulation and control. It's reductive and insulting unless you happen to know for a fact that that's the case.
I am 10 years older than my husband. We've been married for 36 years and are still very much in love. We have had a wonderful life together.
This is too much of a generalization - I would call it a bright pink flag. I have been married to my husband for 40+ yrs. there is an 8 year age gap and I met him when I was 17. I was not the innocent child, and he was not a creepy old man. Each relationship is unique, and although many times it is not a good fit - other times it works out
8 year gap isn't much . I say more than 15/20 yrs.
Load More Replies...This one is massive generalization. Beware of people who ONLY date significantly younger girls/boys. Like I've almost exclusively dated older woman. But by your logic, if I was to date someone much younger, that suddenly means I'm controlling?! There are much better red flags to look out for, for controlling/manipulative people. Like not letting you see your friends, or be alone ever. Or they have to snoop through your phone constantly. Those are much more realistic flags to look for, as opposed to the age difference between the two (or three if they Poly... Lol). That gap is quite literally just a number. What's wrong with a 60yo and 90yo dating each other?
I disagree. Dating a extremely old woman or man both are creepy , regardless of gender don't date someone who's like 15/20+ years than you .
Load More Replies...Okay, off topic, BUT I LOVE DONT LOOK UP! THAT MOVIE IS SO GOOD YALL NEED TO WATCH IT ❤️
This obsession with age gap relationships is incredibley sexist against women. Imagine telling a 22 year old women she is too young to commit to being a mother or buying a house; everyone would rightly call you sexist. But if she decides to date a 50 year old man, immediately she is too young and immature to choose that so he must be taking advantage of her...
2 consenting adults deciding to have a relationship? This is not something anyone else should judge. If there’s an age gap, or they’re from the same sex, or they are mixed race or whatever. It’s not anyone elses business. Maybe we sholud start evaluating our relationship in regards of how people treat, love and respect each other and leave our judgements aside. Let people be happy the way they choose.
They are all opinions. No one is arguing that these are undeniable facts.
Load More Replies...
Routinely acting like a pouty manbaby.
We all have bad days, but I’d steer clear of the guys who very frequently have sour tempers and are very quick to anger. That’s the type of guy who will hit you, punch holes in the wall, drink and drive after every fight, etc
I struggle to control my temper. And will try to walk away if I feel that control slipping
I also have that problem, but I've never attacked anyone as a result. It's the ones who, even when there's an opportunity to walk.away or think through it better who are worrisome. Walking away is ALWAYS the better option.
Load More Replies...Pouty baby could also mean not talking to you for days or disappearing whenever there was something they didn't like (three months ago 🙄)
As a guy, I really don’t like guys who put “baby” in every sentence thinking it makes them more of a man: “Yeah, baby. I did it, baby.” Generally, in my experience most of them turn out to be genuine a-holes.
Being able to punch holes in the wall perhaps says something about your housing.
Never apologizing
Always blames someone/something else. Yup, we all know someone like that!
The whole world knows someone like that. He's orange and used to be POTUS
I would argue he was never POTUS, seeing that A. he lost the popular vote by millions and B. to be president you have to actually, you know, be presidential. He was just allowed to play act and his unindicted co-conspirators made everyone go along with it.
Load More Replies...I had a friend who I confronted for cheating on his wife. He said it's a part of his culture and his people do it all the time. He's no longer my friend.
The culture of jackholes, of course - you know the kind... their language is called 'never-my-fault' and has a dialect of 'men-have-needs-so-it's-justified'
Load More Replies...So called christians who support tRump, perhaps the most godless person on the planet along with his best buddy Putin
Oh, one of those who does something awful then defends it with, "It's my culture." I guess that makes it ok then /s
Calling women "bitches", and not in the sense of "she's being a b***h" but in the general sense as if "b***h" is a synonym for "woman".
As a woman , respectfully , I do not understand.
Load More Replies...I hear this at school WAY too much, and I really hate it, especially because I hear this from 8th graders, not 11th or 12th graders
I ended up playing "Found the incel" at a previous job because (among other telltale issues,) the guy randomly called women "sluts" and was generally on a Dunning-Kruger "I got it ALL figured out" mentality.
That's why I hate it when women call each other b***hes. It somehow gives men permission to do it as well.
What if I call all people bitches. Like I was talking to my bitches about *this* b***h that had the audacity to "b***h please" me. Like, b***h please.
This is the same as females calling us “guys”. So I see nothing wrong with it
Suddenly flying off the handle at a minor inconvenience. It's one thing to stub your toe at the end of a bad day and give the table a whack. It's another if every moment of stress or misfortune triggers rage.
Using phrases like "do you know who I am?" Constantly talking about themselves and how desirable they are (to women, recruiters, hiring managers, etc) *Only* being nice to certain groups of people (women, leaders, minorities, white people, etc)
Do you know who I am? You don't? Good, I think I can do without everyone knowing my face and name any more than I have to.
"Do you know who I am?" Me: Oh Sweetie, let's check your wallet for some ID since you've forgotten your name.
Or just "no", or "should I". Preferably turning away
Load More Replies...Quotes Joe Rogan/ Andrew Tate etc. regulary.
Quotes andy at ALL! I don't know Rogan, but whoever quotes Tate should only have the sense to do so disparagingly!
Joe Rogan is not even on the same planet as Tate. What the heck is this comment? I agree with the other poster that most criticism comes from people who NEVER listen to his podcasts. Sure he has some dumb views on vaccines, but that is such a minor thing that he actually talks about and some very interesting guests. And he does a great job of helping to dissect some complex topics for people and asks very good questions. And at the end of the day he’s a comedian with opinions. Some are dumb. It doesn’t make him toxic mysogynist rapist like Tate.
True. The dialog in pop culture outrage is written long before most of these people even encounter it. They read the script, then believe it. Same goes with the people who think liberals eat babies. The extremist viewpoints are just different sides of the same coin.
Load More Replies...🤮🤮🤮 Gah I remember when Joe Rogan was just the creepy Fear Factor host. I still find it hard to accept people listen to him to that extent. And that other one isn't worth a mention. No validation.
Them and people who worship another certain former reality show star are just one giant circle of a Venn Diagram.
Load More Replies...Yeah. Tate is trash, that's his whole brand. It's gross. Joe Rogan is nowhere near that part of the spectrum. He's just an average dude who will interview people with interesting viewpoints. I think because he's a meathead people don't like him.
Load More Replies...
Trying to flirt with friend's girlfriend.
Or text their ex gf when they break up. I simply texted a list to my last ex, like dudes u may not wanna trust. I did my part, he could believe me or not 🤷♀️
Proclaiming they are an alpha male and treat women like objects instead of people.
If you have to proclaim you are an 'Alpha male', you aren't.
I don't know man, right after getting up I am, in fact, unstable and unsuited for the general public, which I guess is an alpha?
Load More Replies...Plus the whole "Alpha male" thing was debunked. The Alphas in a pack of wolves are generally the parents( the ones who take care of the group). The "alpha" types only take care of themselves
Any man who talks about things like "the natural order" or "the natural hierarchy" is probably an a*****e. Nature is an unruly bush, not a "hierarchy". People who speak of "the natural order" are usually promoting something much darker than that, and they use the concept of "the natural order" as their excuse.
usually "natural order" is about men being "much better" than women or men having control over women.
Lol, Nature *is* an unruly bush, and these guys are the invasive weeds tangled in it
My response to this kind of garbage is "there's always a bigger fish".
If anyone brings up a Lion pride to prove a point - ' You know, Lionesses are the political nucleus of the pride? If they don't want a particular male as a leader, they might even kill them. "
I have no doubt some guys don't like the idea of coed sports because they're afraid they'll get their asses beat, BY A GIRL. 🤫
If sports were co-ed, there would be virtually no professional female athletes. Even Serena Williams wouldn't even qualify for Wimbledon, let alone win it.
Load More Replies...Look again, in the wild the female calls the shots, if she doesn't give in, he's out! The male is for show. The female is the nest builder, birther and the provider. The lioness is the boss, she hunts for food, gives birth, raises, feeds & protects her cubs… Leo is lazy … unless he's threatened. He just waits around for the lioness to provide, then come in heat again… then the circle of life begins all over again. Leo lives longer than his lioness'… then he just gets a new one.
I think this is contextual, for example if you're the new guy (or girl) in an office you'll need to earn respect and tend to get the grunt jobs to start. Calling that the natural order is not unrealistic or unreasonable. It's only problematic if it's used to justify some form of bigotry or discrimination. Like if two new people start in the office and the girl has to "get the coffee" while the guy gets groomed for a sales role.
When they blame all their problems on women.
My countries men are suddenly blaming woman for unemployment issues over the fact that they are not qualified enough to do the job than a woman .
Trying to break your hand with the handshake when they meet you. I prefer a firm handshake, but when they're squeezing so hard you can feel your bones and tendons move and your hand hurts afterward, that's just ridiculous. It's just machismo b******t to exert dominance by way of physical pain. Last guy that did it to me (it was at work) I just straight called him out right there. "Oh, so youre one of those hard handshake guys? Why do you do that?" As I shake the pain out of my hand. Was a very awkward professional relationship afterward but he never f****d with me.
I was just thinking about this! I never understood the macho grip of a handshake.
It's literally intimidation. If they can hurt you with a handshake, they can hurt you in other ways. Keep your distance from people like that.
Load More Replies...Just as bad is the opposite. The wet fish. Someone who barely grasps your hand with their fingertips and just kinda flops out of it.
There was a guy once who started to do this handshake move once and I whipped my other hand to his butt and said Ewwww. He was so shocked he dropped my hand and gave me the swerve.
I (60f) was taught by my Dad to always have a firm handshake so men knew I wasn't someone to be taken lightly. It came in handy since I worked in male dominated industries most of my life. Men are always surprised when I give them a firm grip instead of some wimpy little "woman" handshake. Almost all of them commented on it. And almost all of them showed me respect as a result.
When you handshake and he forcefully twists his hand on top and yours on bottom. I instantly don't trust him
Trying to prove he's an 'Alpha Male'. Same here, instant red flag.
Or that pull you into him type of handshake or the squeezing tighter than necessary. It's interesting watching men shake hands, it tells a lot about them.
Load More Replies...Or people who insist on crushing your hand when they shake it. I know a firm handshake used to be seen as a sign of trustworthiness, but there's firm and then there's unnecessary.
One caveat to that is plumbers, they have iron grip strength. And sometimes forget how strong their grip is.
Load More Replies...Omg I'm reading the comments and I didn't even know this handshake thing existed. I mean, how insecure can you be? I'm a woman so I guess I don't enter the competition among alphas but I think I would laugh so hard and say "Oh are you trying to assert dominance? That's sweet"
TFG's trick is to hold on too long, then pull the person toward him. It didn't work with Trudeau, and TFG got dragged for it. False manliness.
Can’t have a good time without alcohol.
As an introvert, it is my social medication. But to be fair, I still am not having a good time.
Yeah, it's not that I can't have a *good* time without alcohol - I can't have a time at all!
Load More Replies...Too many alcoholics in the family. I am not going there. I even give the bartender and servers a heads up about me. Never any alcohol.
This is true for anyone. If you NEED mind altering substances to have a good time, you are a profoundly boring person.
Or you have severe social anxiety and need to alter your senses to be able to be in public.
Load More Replies...
Throwing their friends under the bus when women are around. Really struggled to deal with guys I thought were my friends doing this when I was younger. It’s like a switch goes off in them when attractive women are around and all bets are off.
Also not making an effort to be friends or even just nice be to people that don’t have anything to offer them. There are plenty of guys at my job that only talk to guys their age or attractive women, like if they can’t hangout or date them they’re not worth interacting with.
That last part needs some context. We don't have unlimited free time, we can only talk with so many people in a day. So it would make sense to prioritize people similar to you, or that you are interested in. Now if you mean that trash talk them, and blow off when they say hi to them in the halls, then yeah I agree. Just because someone doesn't talk to you, doesn't mean they are bad people.
I'm a woman and when I was in high-school all my friends IQs dropped to the single digits when a cute boy was around. It was gross.
Had an ex-best friend like that as a kid. Wasn't just his girlfriends, it was ANY girl he was liking and suddenly he's messing with me to impress her. I only realized in hindsight that his falling out with his previous best friend was basically the same thing/fighting over the same girl, so I had to walk away from that mess.
I wondered if this one was going to come up. As a guy it's a pet peeve when you have a male friend that actively hinders your attempts to interact with a woman. They don't need to be a wingman, but when you've told them you're interested in a woman and they actively try to sabotage you in front of her it's disgusting. Maybe it'd be acceptable if they told you she was wrong for you and they were trying to stop you making a mistake, but usually it's because they can't stand another guy getting attention, even if they have a wife/girlfriend of their own.
My cousin used to be like this, we'd hang out all the time but his motive was be out to chat up women and mine was to spend time with him. I remember a few nights out that ended early for me so that he could spend time with them. He also went through a Tate phase though this was before Tate was a thing. At least now he's changed a lot and isn't the same person at as before, even if he's still single.
The three F’s will earn an F from me if all they talk about is fighting, fornicating, and frustrations.
I want nothing from their friendships.
Have a life, you’re a lot more interesting if you do things. Because if you do things, you have things to talk about, to relate with, and experiences to share.
Again… have a life, be able to tell a story.
That's different entirely. Martial arts aren't just about fighting. It's about self improvement, fitness, and learning self-defense. And for those who do tournaments, they're participating against other willing participants who signed up.
Load More Replies...
Just being an a*****e at the gym. How bout you don’t stand 4 inches away from me talking with your friends?
Or when they stand so close at the checkout counter and pretty much breathe down your back, alpha type ish I guess.
I had a guy crowding me at the checkout, like I was literally wondering if he was trying to see my PIN. I gave him the shoulder move & glare, which he didn't seem to get, so I just turned and said, "You wanna back the f*ck off of me?" They get so weirded out when we stand up for ourselves and clearly state our boundaries. I personally love it.
Load More Replies...Oh man, the guys who never wipe down the machines/weights... cleaning something won't ruin your testosterone levels. It won't even return them to normal, Ronny Roid-Rage, but it WOULD make you slightly less frustrating to be around dammit! I don't care how dirty people's houses are because I don't go there, but gyms are shared spaces so the LEAST I expect of the people going there is to do the bare stupid minimum to keep said shared space reasonably clean.
Personal space is a cultural thing. In some cultures, people stand a lot closer to each other when talking. Probably also helps them hear each other better in noisy environments. I have a Chinese girl at work that I always have to lean in to talk to, because otherwise I can't hear what she's saying!
But you should still have enough respect of other peoples space to not invade theirs and let them do their thing
Load More Replies...
Clenched jaw and crossed arms. If you're showing me intimidation signals I'm going to ignore you until you go away.
Crossed arms are a classic sign of defensiveness not aggression/intimidation. And a clenched jaw can mean any number of things. I suffer from chronic pain so I clench my jaw a lot, it does not mean I’m angry or trying to intimidate you.
I do this when I'm anxious or nervous (not on purpose). Idk why I do the arms but I clench my jaw bc I did it a ton right after transitioning hoping that it'd make me look more masculine and I still do it a bit for confidence
Well clenched jaw and crossed arms can mean a bunch of things, frustration, defensiveness, anger, boredom. If they're displaying those signs while you're talking with you he probably isn't interested either.
I cross my arms because it's a comfortable way to stand. If you're intimidated by that, I think it says more about you.
Calling women "Females".
Depends on context... in the way you're thinking... probably. If you're talking about a phenomenon that affects girls, women, teens, etc. etcc... honestly... I'm going to say "In females..."
Tried to find a less common one. For people looking for a long term partner: Beware when someone complains about everything and is seemingly the victim in every situation. This is the type of person that will very quickly blame you if anything goes wrong, and is likely s******g on you to other people already. Secondly, it means you will be perpetually drained by the negativity over the long haul.
Refer to the previous post on being able to "change him". Women will often feel bad for such men, "the poor one just needs a good woman like me, then he'll be fine"...
It also means he pribably has no sense of responsibility, in anything. My ex-husband was like that. We've been divorced for 28 years now, and since I never changed my last name back to my birth name, I still get occasional phone calls from attorneys/collection agencies about loans he owes money on. Way back when we were first divorced, and I got one of those calls, I would get on his case about it. He always had an excuse......even used the passing of his great-grandmother once to distract me from the discussion that was about him not paying things he'd agreed to pay for. Now he's completely off the grid, no doubt in an effort to avoid bill collectors. Hopefully calls to me will not be a thing anymore, either, but I'm not holding my breath. It isn't just the negativity that will drain you!
Talking negatively about their spouse and kids.
Guys with loud exhaust and rev their car for now reason. GTFO with that lol
Every time I hear someone doing that, I hope they chuck a rod out the side of their block.
I don't know what that means, is it a euphemism? Or some engine terminology?
Load More Replies...When we were young we used to build our cars too, at least to the extent we could afford. We never did the stuff stated above because it would bring the cops right to you for a hefty (at least for us) ticket for noise.
"I'm sorry you took that the wrong way."
Generally true for both men and women, but how you treat people, especially those that can offer you nothing. If you’re rude to people for no justified reason, that’s not someone I want to be friends with.
Trash talking behind someone's back.
talk trash next to someone. i love discussing waste management /j
Big truck, little dude inside
Generally speaking European cars are tiny when compared to American brands. I remember the first time I saw a Dodge Ram, I was stupefied. That thing is the size of a studio flat. Anyway, every single time I see some guy getting out of a Toyota Hylux in my country, they almost need a step ladder to help them. It's quite hilarious.
Load More Replies...Huge jacked up truck with a bootlicker flag on the back
It's funny how the "rugged individualists" with their Gadsen flags, who won't do what anyone tells them to, are always the ones to grovel at the feet of authority and authoritarians alike.
Misogyny
I had a teacher at school that was called Miss Andree... She was really nice.
1. Mansplaining: when you tell them what you do or have studied or are interested in or country you live in and they start explaining things about them to you. 2. When they don't have friends. 3. When they don't have female friends.
Oh yeah... the mansplaining... I used to talk to this one guy.... until I realized that no matter HOW many times I'd told him things like: "Yeah, that was my major... I know the basics of how that works." or.... "I'm the one who told you about that in the first place..." or any number of things that would definitely indicate that I do not live under a rock (seriously... dude, yes... I DID hear about that huge news story that was in all the headlines for months on end ...) - it's like the moment I'm not actively talking to them... the brain RESETS to "They know nothing. I will be magnanimous and explain it all in little words, like the generous man I am".
Or if all they have are female friends but don't like to give much or any details into how they became friends.
Are you really saying not having friends and not having female friends are red flags? Fúck off and go héll. While I don’t agree with the statement, someone else said that calling women females is another red flag, which you did in fact do here.
Fragile masculinity. A “Men don’t cry” type of person. I could go on. Even type an paragraph on this but I won’t
I bawled my eyes out in an internet cafe full of people when news of Eddie Guerrero's death broke. After that, I was sobbing uncontrollably in front of friends when news of Hana Kimura's death broke in 2020. Never had any regrets, won't ever have any. Hell, even if they don't know me but are near and dear to me, don't be surprised seeing a waterfall develop from my eyes.
I am not a wrestling fan, but Guerrero's death was tough. A seemingly healthy man, here one day, and dead the next. Really sad. Hana Kimura.....a beautiful girl like that, not feeling like life was worth living at 22? Gaaah. She was born the same year as my only niece. That one makes my heart hurt, because I can't imagine what I'd feel if my niece committed suicide.
Load More Replies...Pushing small boundaries that aren’t a 'big deal.' Then, once called out on it, backpedaling, apologizing for it, and then DOING IT AGAIN.
I hope you will be able to watch out for yourself, and won't settle again for someone you don't truly get along with.
Load More Replies...Talking bad about their significant other and kids. Thin blue line apparel of any type. Using the word “females”.
Someone once called the thin blue line flag the cowards' swastika, and it just made so much sense.
Hakenkreuz, not swastika. It's surprising how many people don't know the difference.
Load More Replies...The t-shirt that I get a bad taste in my mouth about is the one with Psalm 23 on it. Anyone who has to wear a t-shirt that proclaims their "faith" doesn't seem to understand that isn't what Jesus meant when he said people would know who His followers are.
Any form of bullying behavior. It's not good for friendships, and God have mercy on the women that decide to date these pieces of s**t.
When they blame women for their shortcomings, screams insecure fragile man ego. Aka caring what women do with their lives, how they dress, their sex lives etc.
Openly hates homeless people. A former colleague was a real POS and this was the one thing that settled it when others made excuses for his behaviour.
Grown men acting as if fistfights are still acceptable. If you've failed so hard at life that you have nothing to lose (injuries, job loss, jail time, etc) then the rest of the world should be avoiding you like the plague.
Excessive bragging, one-upping, or putting down other men. A confident, successful man will always build other men up, not break them down.
Littering.
That goes for anyone: Man, Woman, Teens, older children. I'll excuse toddlers and babies since they probably haven't been taught. Toddlers who have been taught not to litter are little cops to those who litter.
Invisible lat syndrome.
Had to look this one up! Invisible lat syndrome (ILS), also referred to as imaginary lat syndrome, is the idea that your pump was so big, and that your lats are so wide, that you can't return your arms to your side like normal. This typically happens after a someone lifts massive weights and has that inflated feeling in their muscles.
So, this lats are some type of muscle? Guess that means those guys who walk like they have razor blades in their arm pits?
Load More Replies...Anyone who brings up the "lions not lamb" narrative
There was a guy wearing a "lions not sheep" shirt at a concert. I went up to him and said, 'man you must be the only one with this shirt, right?' He didn't get the joke
You know, lambs don't give a s**t about the opinions of lions either, only their behavior.
The " I'm not racist, I've had/would have sex with *insert minority slur* " guy
"I'm not racist/sexist/anythingist but..." is always a sign that they absolutely are.
The word "but" always negates everything before it, no matter what the topic.
Load More Replies...Never accept physical affection from their guy friends when it isn’t a gay joke.
When a guy gives his male friend a hug, or like, physical affection symbolizing their bond- but see's it as "gay s**t" and gets all "wtf man, I ain't gay"
Load More Replies...Talking about his previous sexual experiences.
From what I understand, this works both ways. But still not acceptable in my book
I'm sure this very much depends on the context and circumstances. Giving advice? Fine. Outright trying to brag, not so much.
Well, it depends: Did the other party ask? Or did the dude just randomly start talking about his exes?
Depends on the point he's making. You can give valuable advice by using personal experience as an example. But if it's just gratuitous, ...
A bit subtler but it's an inability to talk about their positions in any depth. Like a lot of guys know that their opinions turn off women, but instead of changing them or asking why, they just spout off some rehearsed line. If he can't explain why he's pro-choice in any meaningful depth? Likely a red flag.
Ummm? Did OP make a typo? Why on earth would you want an explanation from someone who's *pro-choice*? Edit: to be clear I'm very much pro choice, as I think every decent human being should be... just confused about the wording.
here's an explanation: because everyone with a uterus who wants or needs an abortion deserves one
Load More Replies...My old manager loved to ask guys what their body count was. He was like 30
The lack of context makes this sound like they worked in a serial killer factory or something.
One of the interesting bits in the film "Mr & Mrs Smith" used this. The uncut version made it even funnier when you find out they were talking actual body counts when Brad Pitt's character asks, "Do bystanders count?"
Mullet
LOL. Yeah, not all men. One of my brothers didn't get rid of his for a long time. Even my SIL got tired of it! He's a wonderful brother, a very good son, loving husband, and doting father and grandfather. But he's also 61, so....maybe this doesn't apply to him!
Calling me brother when we’ve just met
what´s so bad about that? Maybe the dude is just friendly. Or it´s normal in his culture.
Or "bro, bruh, brah" every other word. I saw a t-shirt once that read "Don't bro me till you know me" and I wanted one so badly.
Piggybacking off another comment, but when a guy friend starts to describe a woman based on her body (like breasts, butt, etc.) And you check them on it, and they continue anyway while expecting some kind of acknowledgement from you.
Inability to even playfully be mocked. In a weird twist of fate, some of the most serious people out there are the easiest to laugh at. How they don't realize the levity involved in talking s**t is incredible. These types are often first to swing, too, which is a disgusting attribute IMO.
My friends and I are constantly lightheartedly teasing each other. If it gets too intense, we communicate. Otherwise, I'll make fun of them and they'll make fun of me and it's all chill. A lot of it is just us pretending to be Andrew Tate stans or stereotypical far rightists/stereitypical gay people and imo its actually hilarious
I wouldn't necessarily consider this a red flag, but women should be cautious around men who receive a lot of attention from women. The more attention someone gets the more likely they are to be narcissistic. Though one that's a clear red flag is if he's just never single
A guy in a long-term committed relationship is "never single", but that's no red flag.
And, for some reason, guys who are in a relationship seem to attract more attention from singles.
Load More Replies...I was narcissistic long before I started getting a lot of attention from women. In fact, it was the attention from women that considerably humbled me. Turned the narcissism to self reflection, and later self acceptance.
How a man talks to his SO in public. If he'll ridicule them in public and see no problem with it/boast...I want nothing to do with him.
Raises their voice whenever they think they are losing an argument. Has to drink all the time. Ask too many questions about a woman’s past.
Being unable to laugh at jokes about themselves, especially about being gay. That just screams insecurity, if he tries to prove to everyone that he is in fact not gay, thats either gay as f**k or he has the confidence of a jellyfish. No adult man should be seriously offended if its clear that its a joke.
Do you realise that even using "gay as f**k" in that context is already being disparaging and insulting? As is the idea that you'd 'joke' about someone being gay in such a way as to challenge them. No Adult Man should really give a toss is anyone is or is not gay, least of all be upset by the idea that someone is 'accusing' them of it.
Treating people like their leaders in any context.
I don't usually smack people for their spelling, but I think the poster meant "they're" not "their". It changes the meaning entirely.
wearing Pit Vipers unironically.
Most likely it’s already dead. Normally I wouldn’t care if they were farming the pit vipers sustainably for their skin and treated them well. However, I’m assuming they’re not talking about real pit vipers, so instead I shall jest and say it is very tragic that all these snakes are needlessly suffering. Don’t attack the people wearing dead ones! Attack the ones torturing live ones!
Load More Replies...any man that is performing masculinity, guys that say you can't wear/do/say/be this b/c it's not 'manly'. shows a lack of knowledge of what a man can be and is a big flag for insecure thought.
Fedora
Nah, Terry Pratchett wore a fedora and he was brilliant and a really lovely guy. I had the pleasure of chatting with him on several occasions.
Lucky you, assuming you mean IRL. (I recall crossing a post or three with him back when he was active on AFP, but I don't count that.) And TBF his hat is not the typical 'fedora' beloved of 'nice guy' neckbeard types. Anyway, he had the gravitas to pull it off.
Load More Replies...You'll find fedoras on a lot of Indiana Jones fans (male and female). Nothing ominous there.
Hey! I've worn a fedora since 1978. I assure you, it's not a symbol of moral failing on my part.
a big one for me that I see a lot of now that my kids are teenagers and involved in a lot of sports: that one dad who takes sports too seriously. when your kid comes off the baseball field and instead of going straight to the dugout to be with his coach and team, he walks around the the back of the fence to chat with dad between every inning, it's a problem. When your kid looks at you for feedback after every mistake they make, it's a problem. Not only is it super annoying to the rest of us trying to be healthy parents, but it's a really stupid way to parent. 100% going to backfire on you dude.
My dad tells the story of his coworker who started screaming "We're not out here for the fun of it!"... at the recreational softball game.
Load More Replies...People who were in the military and make sure everyone knows they were in the military
I've been accused of that because of certain speech mannerisms. Speech mannerisms are difficult to change though.
Load More Replies...You can make your own threads on BP. You know that, right?
Load More Replies...Being a misandrist does not in any way help anyone. It's not the way to fight misogyny. We want equal respect then we respect equally
Load More Replies...a big one for me that I see a lot of now that my kids are teenagers and involved in a lot of sports: that one dad who takes sports too seriously. when your kid comes off the baseball field and instead of going straight to the dugout to be with his coach and team, he walks around the the back of the fence to chat with dad between every inning, it's a problem. When your kid looks at you for feedback after every mistake they make, it's a problem. Not only is it super annoying to the rest of us trying to be healthy parents, but it's a really stupid way to parent. 100% going to backfire on you dude.
My dad tells the story of his coworker who started screaming "We're not out here for the fun of it!"... at the recreational softball game.
Load More Replies...People who were in the military and make sure everyone knows they were in the military
I've been accused of that because of certain speech mannerisms. Speech mannerisms are difficult to change though.
Load More Replies...You can make your own threads on BP. You know that, right?
Load More Replies...Being a misandrist does not in any way help anyone. It's not the way to fight misogyny. We want equal respect then we respect equally
Load More Replies...
