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Social norms are informal rules that govern behavior in groups and societies. They touch almost every aspect of our lives.

Academics like to use this comparison to explain the concept: just as grammar is a set of regulations that governs the structure and organization of language, social norms regulate the structure and organization of people, and, again, just as grammar shapes how we communicate and understand language, social norms shape how we behave and interact with others.

Sociologists talk about social norms motivating people to act, economists explore how they influence market behavior, and legal scholars view them as alternatives to laws, and while their words make sense, if we deconstruct these systems enough, they can begin to look silly.

Recently, Reddit user Irish-Springs made a post on the platform, asking people to share what social norm they find pretty weird when they think about it, and it has already received over 5,300 comments, many of which raise some hilariously valid points.

#1

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points People's absolute horror about women breastfeeding in public.

Oh, I am sorry, Karen. I am giving my baby substance, not trying to attract your 12 year old son.

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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please don't give your baby substance. That is illegal and dangerous to the child's health. Give them sustenance instead. ;-)

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30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Paying tens of thousands of dollars to bury corpses in the ground.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My wife knows my wishes: dig a hole, toss me in, bury me with a young oak tree on top. Done.

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#3

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points People expect you to get along with family (parents, siblings) even if they treat you like s**t.

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30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points The expectation of tipping for certain jobs, as a substitute for paying employees a higher wage.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid tipping was meant only for for waiters/waitresses and petrol attendants (we don't 'pump our own gas' - now it's drivers, delivery peers, shop assistants, hair dressing assistants, literally any assistant, any service provider, and their mom. It's crazy. I can't afford to tip everyone damn.

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#5

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Gender reveal parties.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I _think_ these are still largely confined to the US - let's just hope it stays that way.

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#6

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Showing excessive gratuitous violence is fine, and will get you at most a PG-13 rating, which most people will think is too strict anyways. But show even one uncovered booby and people will lose their minds.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boobs seem to be more of a taboo in America than anywhere else, which is ironic for the country with the world's biggest porn industry.

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#7

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Circumcision is pretty wild. Cosmetic surgery on the genitals of a baby is pretty weird.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. This is the one that is absolutely crazy to me. Somehow they managed to brainwash millions of people into thinking it's ok, or even "better". No, leave them babies alone, weirdos.

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#8

Women’s pants don’t have pockets.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i wear men’s jeans for that reason. and that my legs are really long and they’re comfortable for me sooooo

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#9

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points The absurd obsession the US has with the flag and the "reverence" surrounding it. It's a godsdammed piece of fabric. Actually, US patriotism as a whole.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not just the US. Anywhere that venerates their flag in that way is deeply suspicious and there are many much worse offenders than them.

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#10

Grand gesture marriage proposals in public are embarrassing and weird.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It can be quite romantic and memorable. But if you're going to go big, you DEFINITELY need to know how your partner will respond beforehand to save yourself from being shot down on the spot because of embarassment.

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#11

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Working your a*s off for 65 years to then live for 10 years.

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#12

Sending hungry kids to school and not feeding them for free.

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#13

The topic of sex being generally taboo despite the fact that it is the reason we’re all here and that a majority of people love it.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is quite acceptable to see pple getting gunned down or stabbed to death, but show one female nipple and the movie is for 16 years and older cause apperantly kids minds are too frail to deal with that.

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#14

Bikinis vs bras. If you bra is made out of swimwear fabric, suddenly new social rules apply.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's about intent and consent. In a bikini you're intending to be outside and consenting to be seen in that manner of dress. Bras, besides sports bras, are generally worn with the intent of not being seen, and unless the wearer reveals it themselves, they are not consenting to be seen in that article of clothing.

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#15

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Forcing people in their teens to decide on a career with the implication that they'll do it for the rest of their life and sealing the deal by putting them into so much debt studying for said career that they're pretty much enslaved to it.

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#16

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Working 40 hours a week. It’s actually insane that we all put up with it.

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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked in a number of Government & private sector organisations & the number of people working considerably more hours than 40 was totally surprising

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#17

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Women are expected to be hairless-presenting.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shaving or not shaving should be a personal choice and it's none of anybody else's business.

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#18

Education should be fully free across the board. It makes 0 sense that a country would impoverish their own people rather than invest in a strong, educated and healthy population.

The ONLY reason that university costs money is to perpetuate social stratification. You could probably take 5% of the military budget and it would more than cover it.

Also, isn’t that what “free market” people always b***h about? That once people are rich they will give back and trickle down? Tax the 1% sell slightly more and you would have it paid for.

Germany has free education. It works just fine.

If you are smart and ambitious enough to attend a university, it should be fully state sponsored. The only reason people are against this, is that some kids who grew up rich and didn’t have to take out a mortgage to enter the rat race are jealous they don’t get to keep their advantage.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But what if we abuse our right to education and get smart and realize we are governed by greedy goblins?!

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#19

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Women can show their whole breast just not the nipples.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women can't show nippels, because MEN could get "inpure thoughts", according to fundamentalist "Christian" leaders. They like to spout their disapproval all over the internet, which is full of pørn. And the most watched pørn in the US is GAY pørn...

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#20

Encouraging people to drink more alcohol. I'm guilty of it myself, 'go on, just one more!' Or I've bought shots for people who have said no, which then pressures them to drink it.

I didn't see a problem with it until I saw a guy taking the p**s out of another guy for drinking alcohol free beer. Imagine being ok with being pressured to take drugs? It's madness when I think about it.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good for you on growing as a person! You are completely right :)

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#21

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Forcing or encouraging a child to hug a family member that has known them since their birth but the child doesn't have any sort of bond with said family member.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my mom used to make me do this and then i made it VERY clear that i hate hugging anyone, even my own parents. i have a few exceptions, like my BEST friend but other than that absolutely not. thank you, but don’t touch me!

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30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Family asking if you're trying for a child. 

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is nothing wrong with asking a relative if they plan to have children. Also nothing wrong with said relative choosing to demure or say they have not decided. The problem IMO is when the person asking tries to pressure them into the choice they want to hear.

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#23

30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points The expectation to have a huge wedding.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My entire wedding, including my dress and the marriage license was less than $600 CAD. Invest in the marriage not the wedding.

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30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Asking a grown woman's father for her hand in marriage. What?

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't ask my father in law for his permission, I asked for her parents blessing. I thought that was a good way to show her parents respect. She'd of married me either way but I thought the gesture was important.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This - you are in a way asking to join their family. While they shouldn’t have the right to veto anything, it is a good way to find out if they approve or not. If not, it is a good opportunity to try and mend fences or smooth differences. Obviously sometimes they aren’t reasonable people and that isn’t what I’m talking about.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having a man walk a woman down the aisle to **give her away** same thing. Give yourself, you aren't anyone's property

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Kevin J. Henning
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I asked my wife's father for her hand in marriage. He said, "what's wrong with the rest of her."

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Stuart
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My wife wanted me to do that. I refused by telling her that she is not his property (which is where that custom came from....the idea that men owned their female children). She was 30 when I proposed.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My ex fiancé asked for my dad's blessing which I thought was sweet

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Asking for them to “bless” the marriage is understandable, but honestly it didn’t matter what my wife’s parents said we were getting married

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David
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder how much this ties in historically with the expectation of the bride's parents paying for the wedding. Which in itself seems like a carry over from the bride's parents paying a dowry. If you practice that system - then the father agreeing for you to get married is kind of important. -- I'm not saying I agree with that system. Just thinking about where it (maybe) came from.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s not asking permission, it’s asking for the parents’ blessing. Personally I want my future bf to do this with my parents

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At this point asking my parents blessing was not really needed,,, We'd been together over 10 years and they pretty much fully adopted him as one of their own lol. Heck my dad became ordained so he could be the one to marry us! Though personally I think he just anted to tick " wear Darth Vader Costume to a wedding" off his bucket list roflmao.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My former mother in law got really upset with me when I didn't ask her permission to marry her daughter. Then got even more upset when I said, "She's 27. Neither she, nor I, need your permission to do anything with OUR lives."

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If any man ever asks that of my daughter, I'll punch the fückers lights out. It says to me that you see her as my property and marriage as transferring ownership. You can fück right off!

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Dan Holden
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's not at all what it means to most people. I don't think it should be necessary. In fact it does seem a little outdated, but this seems quite the overreaction.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I asked my wife if she would like us to marry each other. Then we told all our parents.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my culture we ask permission for bothy peoples parents. Like the man and the woman, but more like to see if they approve

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does this actually still happen in many places? None of my friend's partners did this

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My SO asked my father and my kids permission to have a relationship with me to show respect.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It shows respect to the parents who raised her to be who she is!

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Jacob B.
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't forget, you need to take a couple sacks of potatoes and carrots....and don't forget the Goat.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wrong wrong wrong.Your parents do own you. They had to pay and pay ALL your li*e because o one small mistake .

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I didn't ask. I did, however, tell him I was going to do it.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah that's really not a thing in Europe. (The part in which I live at least)

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Her hand? Do you get the rest of her as well or does the father just chop off her hand and it give it to you?

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Sammy
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But what if you want just the hand? "She got nice hands man and I want to marry them" it's funny to think about.

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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A good father would see if a man who wants to marry his daughter is worthy. Is he educated? Is he hard working? Is he honest, kind, stand up guy? If a guy is lauzy, drug user, drunk, jobless or any kind of not family material, a father may say so and not agree of mariage. A good father do not want to see his precious daughter beaten left in poverty with many children by a shiitty guy. A girl still can marry a guy but then consequences are on her

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But isn't there any way for a father to make sure his daughter is aware of his opinion without implying she's his property? Like, maybe just saying what he thinks if and when she asks him about it?

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My girlfriend & I were both 19 when I proposed to her one Saturday night. She agreed & told her parents the next morning. Her Dad said "He didn't ask me!", so she rang me & asked me to come over that afternoon. When I arrived sweating buckets & before I could say anything, he said "It's all right by me". Geeze Louise, thanks Reg

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No woman has ever had a last name that didn't come from a man.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole f*****g app is just a bunch of liberals conjoined together to where no Republican can have an opinion. If it's freedom of speech, then why can't I share my political beliefs? You all say that we oppress Democrats, but whenever a Republican has something to say, they get downvoted into oblivion and I'm sick and tired of it.

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9 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This has nothing to do with politics, just the fact that we pandas share some basic human decency views, like not treating people like property, and treating everyone like equals. Just like we treat you like an equal. We talk to you, we have a civilised discussion. No one is threatening you, telling you you can't share an opinion or saying you are less than anyone else. The downvotes aren't meant to convey you can't say what you say, just that a lot of people don't agree. And actually, downvotes should be reserved for actual bad behaviour, like personal insults, racism, sexism, etc. Or spreading wrong information. Back up your statements with research if you claim to speak the truth. But I agree with you that you shouldn't be downvoted as long as you are respectful in your opinions.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it’s wrong to ask permission from the parents to ask for their daughters hand in marriage buts it ok to ask/expect them to pay for it? Nowadays it’s a meaningless custom that means nothing but showing a bit of respect and is done just because it’s traditional, it doesn’t hurt anyone.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's just respect for the father and, really, if the answer is negative it doesn't matter. My husband asked my father for 'permission' to marry me; I was 38. It made my dad feel like he was part of something important in our lives.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1 - this isnt normal, i cant remember the last time I meta couple who went through this, 2 - this is seeped in historical culture. Dating/courting is an idea around 50 yrs old (circa 70's). The issue I have is that we are willing to forsake all traditions so readilly

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Lama
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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not all traditions, just the ones that oppose our modern views on humanity, like personal freedom and equality.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly! And it's extremely disrespectful to women to follow a tradition from the times when women were considered property rather than actual human beings.

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Old fashioned but kinda sweet. And it has nothing to do with a daughter being property. My SIL asked my husband and if he hadn't it certainly wouldn't have mattered

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It has everything to do with the daughter being property. That's literally the reason that it's a thing.

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It's a tradition and is commonly seen as a respectful gesture. Have you ever read anything historical in your life?

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Traditions can still be disrespectful. History doesn't have to be repeated.

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30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Everybody hates being sung happy birthday and everybody hates singing happy birthday, so what the hell are we doing here?

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like it, it's sweet. I moved to another country by myself and the people I thought were friends never visited or anything. My best friend (not nearby at all) facetimes me with her kid and sing me happy birthday, then her husband pops his head in and says happy birthday. I truly felt love when they did that and I haven't felt that in a long while. To respond to other commenters: it's not always about being the center of attention.

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Fireworks on the 4th of July. We celebrate independence by showering our land with expensive toxic chemicals from China.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think fireworks should be illegal... it's noise pollution. air pollution. ocean pollution. fire danger. extremely expensive. causes terror in all animals... it's outdated and ridiculous. what's wrong with an incredibly fantastic laser show in the sky?

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You can't use swear words on TV, radio, or in movies under PG-13; but you learn most of the swear words that exist by middle school. What's the point?

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also pretty country specific, here in the Netherlands it's ok to swear on radio/tv. Not that we do it all the time, it's still considered a little crude or impolite. But there's no outrage when someone lets slip a heartfelt f-ck 😂

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Caring what another person wears or what they look like.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a medical condition called lipoedema, which means that although I'm not overweight going by BMI, my legs are disproportionately large compared to the rest of me. I can guarantee that a total stranger will comment on it about 50% of the time I'm out and about. Its usually in the supermarket, and its usually some ignorant old woman telling me my ankles are swollen, or asking me directly about it, or making a rude comment about me needing to lose weight so my legs aren't so fat. What makes people think a rude comment about someone's appearance will be welcome? Do they think before opening their ignorant mouths? The next old biddy who comments is getting shoved in the freezer with the fish fingers.

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Not going to a restaurant by yourself.

I am on a business trip, I want to eat somewhere nice, drink some wine, dine nice since the company is paying for that stuff, I didn't bring anyone because its my arrival night or I just want to have a moment for myself.

And then I get treated like I have a leprosy, or the waiter tries to strong-arm me to go to the communal area or patio to eat because then I would have some company from the random patrons.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ex Hotelier and Michelin Chef here ; If any of my staff (or me, when I was training) treated a lone diner with anything less than the utmost courtesy and kindness, they would have (and have) been taken to one side and told the error of their ways. For example, I used to have a delightful chap used to come in probably once a month with his wife for a couple of years, then started coming in by himself as his Wife had died of Cancer ; one of my new waiters made a comment along the lines of 'what a sad old git, coming in by himself ...etc'. My Sous Chef made him see the error of his ways (basically gave him a light thumping) and he left the next day. The elderly gentleman ate there regularly for the next 3 years before succumbing to Alzheimers.

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30 People Share Social Norms That They Find Weird, Make A Lot Of Hilariously Valid Points Asking people how they're doing as a matter of courtesy when you truly don't care and are hoping they just say "good hbu" in response.

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9 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is mostly just an American thing. Many of my Euro friends hear about this and are confused when they hear this and then actually start to say how they are or what's going on.

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