Domestic abuse and violence against women are rightfully condemned, loudly and publicly, as utterly criminal and wrong under any circumstances. However abuse doesn’t stop there. There are countless forms of less obvious, insidious abuse that affects people of both genders, non-physical abuse that most of us are kinda expected to just put up with. Especially men.
The hashtag #maybeshedoesnthityou is trending on Twitter, and it’s a real eye-opener. Men are sharing their personal stories of manipulation and emotional abuse, and it’s highlighting all kinds of problematic behavior. Perhaps instead of being told to just “suck it up and take it like a man,” guys will be able to express their emotions more honestly, and learn that being treated like crap is not ‘normal.’
Scroll down to check out some examples below, and let us know what you think in the comments.
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I didn't see that there was the profile name there and I was just wondering who the hell this Jordan was
Load More Replies...Any abuse in any form of relationship, regardless of sexual orientation and gender, is just plain wrong. I pity this poor dude and all of abuse victims.
My husband's girlfriend before me did that to him. She actually slit her wrists (in an undeadly way) just to prove her point. I had to pick up the pieces and worked really hard to assure him that it is okay for him to have an own opinion different to mine...
Gosh, I had similar problem with my fiance...a lot of work to put him in one piece again...but was worth it!
Load More Replies...Good for both of you that you recognised that broken and hurt doesn't necessarily mean irreparably damaged.
My ex used this one on me. Many years later I decided I could barely handle being responsible for ONE adult (ME), much less TWO and told him I hoped he wouldn't do it, but it he did, that I couldn't carry that weight anymore and that he was an a$$hole for trying to put it on me. I gave him the number to counseling. While he went through many more tactics before I had the courage to leave, I didn't let him dig that one back up.
So, this is her choice, not yours. Make your own life and take your own steps, as far from toxic people as you can.
What if she has legitimate mental health issues. 1 in 4 people do. Maybe she is expressing serious ideations of suicide. Why are you talking c**p about her online and not taking her to the E.R.? If her limb was cut off would you say she was abusing you then? Not likely. Get her help and stop threatening to leave every time you have a fight.
Sometimes it's abuse. If you put the fault on someone else.... Either way, if you're not a therapist or a doctor, then it's probably not gonna work anyway.
Load More Replies...This is emotional blackmail and the sign of someone very controlling. Contact a health professional and try to extricate yourself from this relationship--this is blackmail
I'm writing my comments on this one as hopefully men will see it. I am a woman and have to say after reading these my husband is the luckiest man on earth, i encourage him to see his friends, go out without me, we have our lives and separate bedrooms, we still snuggle, go on dates etc but no emotional blackmail at all. We rarely argue, we discuss everything, we even have a chore system, we didn't sit and discuss it it just kinda happened. Men, don't let yourself be manipulated, if she threatens suicide, let her get on with it, don't let her take your dog out, go out with your friends, to beat an enemy take away the weapon or the goal. Seriously you deserve better , you are in a game you can't win. you act manly to her standards you're a thug, you stand back and do nothing you re a wimp. Do as you feel and don't be sucked in , before dating look at her friends you can tell what type of person she is by the company she keeps.
I know this one to well and current one keeps threatening it. Problem is, I know she's unstable enough now to do it and tried not long ago.
Being told to 'man up' is very hurtful, especially when you're just trying to communicate.
also, what would 'woman up' consist on? once you look at it that way, you see the sexism in the comment.
Load More Replies...Personally, I think women who complain about 'unmanly men' are just lazy a******s. They've been raised with the idea that they are a precious princess and if they are just pretty enough someone else is going to do all the heavy lifting. They are also usually the ones vehemently against feminism because they know that 'equal rights' would mean they'd have to pull their own weight.
Why is it that when a man is having a weak moment, he just has to "man up", but when a girl is having one, most expect people to drop everything and pity them? Even though I am a girl, I refuse to be one of "those" girls. If that makes sense
This is emotional abuse. It is unacceptable and both men and women do it. Unfortunately, on average, men find less emotional support when abused. I've noticed it for years. I posted on a forum once about that, and was told I sounded like that men's rights movement (can't remember the acronym). It made me sick that people wouldn't listen to the fact that men get so little support, even from their friends and family, much of the time.
There are so many people who will treat you well in life, and the person who should most do this is the person you have an intimate relationship with. She should have your back; she should be the first person you go to for help and support--this sounds very toxic. You deserve to be happy and you deserve to be treated the way you want to be treated.
This happened to my son. His girlfriend had him falsely arrested, came to my home and spinned me a story and when I stood by my son she kept my granddaughter away. When it got to court the judge asked questions that my sons lawyer hadn't asked and she admitted she lied. It absolutely broke my son. He's never been the same since. I hate her!
I've had a boyfriend accuse me of being abusive, I know that he wasn't very stable at the time and going through things, but being blamed of such a thing is definitely not nice.
Fiancee is going through this with his 20 yr old daughter. She came to pick up her 4 yr old sister on her birthday...3 hrs later the cops knock on our door, saying he assaulted her. She was acting funny when I went her place of work, when she saw me she practically hid in the backroom. Right now she has moved back in with my fiancee's sister...20 feet from the back of my car to hers walking distance. This could all go away if my fiancee would tell them about the time our daughter was not even a month old and his sister told him to come over and get leftover thanksgiving food while she was at work, just tell his daughter they were coming. So him and our roommate drive to their house...and they find his daughter with the door open standing in the doorway of her room...NAKED. 0_o too shocked to tell anyone...perhaps we should have. And then there's the time she overdosed on pills and was found to have slits across her wrists.
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Isn't particular a gender thing, anyway experienced this and it melts your self esteem like global warming the ice. Once you reach the point where you believe your are entirely wrong, gonna have a bad time.
And some are especially vulnerable to these...when you already have low-estime, having someone despising you really is highway to hell...
Load More Replies...Could be abuse, could be she just wants to talk things through and you're taking it as a personal attack. We don't know who's at fault just because you tell us, need more information. Sorry, but I couldn't have an honest conversation with my ex about something that was bothering me without him taking it as a personal attack. Needless to say we were both miserable and he'll always think it was all my fault. 🙄
Gaslighting is generally considered a male-to-female type of issue, but this is a good example of that - like everything else - it really can and does work both ways.
Sounds like a narcissist and unfortunately, she has you in her webs of lies.
Oh, Darling. Should that happen, break up ASAP. Nobody needs this misery.
Load More Replies...Ugh. She sounds very immature and manipulative. When she pretends to break up with you, do it for real. No one has the right to pull this kind of garbage. Hand that hot potato right back to her.
It’s not gender-specific either. My ex-husband would give me the silent treatment for days on end. He expected me to be a mind-reader, to somehow guess what bad thing I was being punished for. He would do it at night too, so it was hard to sleep. After a few years of this manipulation, I stopped playing along. I slept in the spare room, and did my own thing without bothering to chase him to “fix things”, apologise for my mystery transgressions, or otherwise torture myself. It drove him insane when I did that. I decided that he was too old to behave so childishly, and treated him accordingly. I got tired of being the only one in the marriage to make things work or resolve every issue. I took my power back, and he crumbled, or should I say, his illusion of control crumbled. By the time he realised he had destroyed his marriage, it was too late to fix it. It takes two mature adults to make a relationship work.
And it's stupid and passive aggressive. I hate that whole 'Well, you should already know why I'm upset' b******t.
Because you aren't helping pay the bills or to take care of her? If the first, find a new job, the second - find a new girlfriend.
I have paid for everything my BF and I do, in our 5 month "relationship". He has a full time job, that he regularly calls in sick for (once a week). Yes I make more than he would if he worked as much as I do. So yeah when he says, he can't afford that new expensive thing he doesn't need, I put the blame right back on him. I buy him things he needs, just not things he wants. And yeah if he made more money, he wouldn't have to bankrupt me in process. Two sides to every story.
Load More Replies...My friends gf does the same thing and complains when he can’t pay for what she wants, and gets mad when he tells her to get a job ._.
Currently I earn more than my husband does, but we agreed to this previously. We were both students when we started living together, and he was supporting me all the time. Now it's my turn.
Oh, just to make it clear. The financial status is more of a coincidence, due to the careers we chose. It's not like he's lazying at home while I work my a*s off. He's an entrepreneur, so currently he earns less, but the situation might change, or shift, again.
Load More Replies...And if she does make more money than you, tell her to shut up anyway. Statistically, one of you is almost certainly making more, but that doesn't give the other any extra rights in the relationship. *Maybe* more say in how the money gets invested/spent, but if it's a healthy relationship, then not even that.
Load More Replies...Because you aren't pulling your weight and in a partnership household it's fair to want both partners providing equally?
I've dealt with gaslighting from both (sic) genders, including a parent. I was told, in a rare moment of honesty, that if I could be made to doubt myself for one second, they then had complete control of the dialogue and me.
Hope you have broken free of these manipulative people!
Load More Replies...It's called gaslighting, and it's one of the absolute signs of an abuser. Look it up, you'll be frightened at how closely the definition not only describes this, but also other, associated behaviors.
I knew a chick who did this to her boyfriends and friends. I told one of them he deserves better and I dumped her as a friend. Some people are bad seeds.
"needs you to be her conscience"--that says a lot. She sounds like a soul-sucker. I promise you, there are so many people out there who will not do this and will treat you as you deserve to be treated. This is just exhausting and will not get better with time--but worse.
I’d hate that! I was the “hostage kid” for several times in my life. As far as I remember, it was done by my bio mom against my dad (and later stepmom).
That's the reason my fiance married his ex wife. He was going to break up with her, she got pregnant, they got married because he wanted to do the right thing, and spent 13 miserable years because he knew if *he* left *her*, he wouldn't see his kids. As it is she uses them as weapons ad often as possible.
It is revolting how may women use the (biased) judicial system to their advantage. Men deserve to have the same exact rights as women do when it comes to parenting.
I HATE women like that. I’m separated from my son’s father due to abuse ON BOTH SIDES. (I freely admit to my b******t and so does he.) But I still make every effort to get my son together with his father. And he makes every effort to get together with his son. He is an amazing father! And I tell him that every chance I get.
I had a friend that fought this. This is what you do: get a lot of proof that you're a great parent, have stable income, find a lawyer (there are places that have lawyers for people that can't really afford expensive lawyers because legal fees can get hella expensive) and don't be afraid to go to court if need be. It will be better for both you and the kids in the long run
Except when the ex wife doesn’t follow the court orders, and you spend over $50,000 in legal fees to try to see your kids, month after month, year after year...going to court over and over...and you don’t get to see them anyway...ever. Oh, and let’s not forget that the court never “punishes” her for not following court orders, so she thinks she’s bucked the system...and she turns your kids against you. I fought and fought...and I never won.
Load More Replies...Across a wide range of jurisdictions the estimates are that mothers receive primary custody 68-88% of the time, fathers receive primary custody 8-14%, and equal residential custody is awarded in only 2-6% of the cases. The judicial system is biased against men in custody cases. Sad, but true.
Load More Replies...that just is blackmailing, i once had a friend doing that, in the end i had to end our friendship, after alerting their Family and making sure she is beeing surrounded by People that are actually trained in helping unstabel People, not me.
I had the same problem with my (male) friend and it was really hard to me and took me a lot of time to stop blame myself for ending this friendship.Never again. That was too toxic for my mental health
Load More Replies...My mom used to do this to my dad all the time when I was little. After years of this, he told her he was “calling her bluff.” She left when I was ten and never came back. I looked her up online a couple of years ago. She was alive and well. And in tent city for “super extreme DUI.”
What if she actually has mental health problems and does feel suicidal. What if leaving is a trigger - why do men see this as abuse. Making fun of mental illness is worse than having it... if you can't recognize your partner needs help, why should you expect them to? And hey maybe don't threaten to leave every time you fight?!? Just a thought.
Yea this is a recent thing with mine and knowing her past I don't know if she is serious or not.
No one gets through life without being emotionally damaged in some way. It's part of "life experience".
I'm not sure, but she seems to be trying to find out...
Load More Replies...Give her some old-timey letters from the 1800s to read. Men were emotional all over the place.
This one is particularly disgusting to me. Humans - ALL humans have emotions & have the right to express them in healthy ways. Crying should never be seen as a weakness. In my little opinion it actually signifies inner strength and confidence, allowing yourself to be vulnerable.
Everyone has scars, inside and out. That is what makes us who we are
The fact remains that many more women experience all of these things, at the whim of their male partners but also have the added "bonus" of being beaten,often to death by them too. https://www.ourwatch.org.au/understanding-violence/facts-and-figures https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/10/women-killed-at-home-refuges-womens-aid-survey https://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/06/us/domestic-intimate-partner-violence-fast-facts/index.html
Maybe, but this list is about males. This is not about which gender has it harder, this is about individuals speaking up.
Load More Replies...The worst. My fiance's exgirlfriend cut off his friendship with his bf. It was hard to make them up
At least he's in a good relationship with you now :)
Load More Replies...I just went through this, GF told friends lies to make her seem like the hero and me the villian.. all i have now is work friends and wouldn't consider them real friends...I know this pain all to well..
I hope you heal soon, stay strong and be kind to yourself.
Load More Replies...My ex husband did this. It started with saying I can't come to the village pub because it's only a boys night (the whole village was there). I had a rare night out with the girls and for 20 years he was asking what I did on that night out actually coming up with scenarios. I didn't go out with the girls again. By the time I left him 28 years later, I had no friends to help. I did leave though. I have a new husband and I'm not used to it when he tells me to go out for coffee with friends (I've got some now) or asks if I have any plans for the day. I'm not being controlled any more and it feels great.
Yea mine tried that and learned real quick that I recognized the manipulative b******t and turned it on her. Waiting for her to pick up on what I did.
C'mon, I am sorry vut you are the only one to blame. You let that happen, if my boyfriend would even try that, the relationship would end very soon.
It's not that simple at all. Abusers have so many tricks, and every single person who gets abused has at one point said "I'd never fall for that!"
Load More Replies...Or subjected to weeks of guilt tripping, cold shoulder, and 'Nothings wrong, you should know why I'm upset' because you went out to coffee with a friend while they were at work.
Girlfriend used to do it. "What`s wrong honey ?" "Nothing!" Sooo, I treated her exactly as if nothing were wrong. She was sulking for days sometimes, always giving me the 'nothing' answer, and I just went about my business, and talked to her like I always do (even if I got no answer), as if it were the prettiest day of my life. You know how it ended ? I married her. Never been happier :)
Load More Replies...yeah and she is so good at it, or I was so dumb about it, that you don't realize wtf happened to your friends until you wake up, see her for who and what she is, leave her and then slowly it sinks in as you deal with having loved someone who never loved you and who you cannot really be mad at because of her then admitted personality issues - talk about mind f****d = ouch. Oh well...
Couples need friends, and isolating someone from their friends is a bad sign.
No, everyone is changed by a relationship, but you shouldn't have to lose all of yourself.
Load More Replies...I'm so sorry this happened to you. Your heart is precious. I hope you have lots of friends who can help you--family? There are also many support groups. I also hope she is no longer in your life.
I feel your pain Kevin. Things do get better...it takes time. Peace be with you!!!
I hope you are okay and hope you can find it in your heart again to love!
I promise you there are many people who will be kind and treat you with the respect you deserve. You never have to accept cruelty. You deserve to be happy. Being alone is better than this. I promise you.
I would be interested in talking to a lawyer. I wouldn't let her know this, because she will escalate, but start saving all evidence (texts, notes, etc) if you haven't already and see a therapist or a professional about how you can protect yourself. Her close friends, and ex-friends (she will have many), know the truth about her, or have seen glimpses of it.
why talk to a lawyer - you cant sue for emotional damage can you?
Load More Replies...This was my husband's ex, completely. In addition to cutting him off from all of his friends (including me, for a decade), AND physically abusing him, AND telling her friends and family that he's actually gay to justify her affairs. Wretched woman she was!!
Rage attackS, plural? Anything more than one means you've stuck around too long.
Red flag. Please walk away and let her find someone else to abuse--she will, unfortunately
If you feel unsafe, then you ARE NOT safe. Don't stay with someone who's not your safe haven. Get out of this. A good woman is out there waiting for you but she can't find you if you are trapped in this scary relationship you're in right now. Make yourself available for your One and Only.
And then later she'll complain that you're a bad father that does nothing and doesn't care about his kids... I've seen it happen.
And then she'll manipulate the court to make sure you don't see your kids.
Load More Replies...A friend is experiencing the latter... with kids, there is no easy DTMFA...
Public belittling needs to be addressed. Can you convince her to see a therapist with you?
What is usually going on in these situations is that this is how she feels about herself and she is terrified that you will find out and leave her. It really says nothing about your worth.
What means.. she doesn't deserve to be loved, and you need someone much better.
Everyone deserves to be loved! NEVER let anyone tell you otherwise!
See, but doing something like either of those suggestions would involve her losing control and him being allowed to interact with others that might notice the abuse and suggest he leave, people that he might actually listen to.
Excellent point. Why abusers separate their partners from friends and family
Load More Replies...NOPE. Danger. This kind of manipulation, lack of empathy and controlling behaviour is a huge red flag.
as soon as you stop lying to your self that you need her or even want her you will be fine that being said i know it is not easy just try to stay mentally sound till you gain the courage
Oversimplification of what it takes to leave seems to abound here
Load More Replies...Remember that from my past relationship and it took years to realize she had slowly worked her way into doing this. Still rebuilding relationships from this.
Women don't hold a monopoly on emotions. It's so sad to see that many women are stuck in the middle ages when it comes to perceived gender norms.
Then look for someone else, there are a lot of women who love a sensitive man who can actually express themselves, in a honestly and deeply way, to share the deepest. You don't desrve less, so don't accept that s**t.
She needs to get into a time-travelling spaceship and go back to 1940--without you of course
Being a man does not mean being emotionless! That is the deffinition of a human; we have emotions!
Not every couple is compatible. If she feels this way, wish her well in her continued search. My husband's ex used to laught him when he cried. I think he is my special sweet hearted cuddle bear. She can keep looking for whatever makes her happy and me and him are chill Just Don't let him find out I put "cuddle bear" on the Internet....
I hate those stupid bitc*es... They cannot be called "women". They in maturity causes a hugde problem for real women. We want you guys not to be afraid to show us yours emotions and problems.its ok to cry sometimes.Its ok to feel weak sometimes.And remember: the real women will love whole you
Oh please leave, you deserve better than this. Always remember, dating is like a car test-drive. Not every car will be your best fit, but every car is someone's best fit. If you don't like the car for your life, it doesn't mean that the car isn't a good car or a valuable car, it's just not "your" car. Go find your Porsche.
Then why is she with you ? Because she is not an option at all to her 'top options', that's why. She probably shouldn't be one for you either.
And when you walk away, she will discover you were the love of her life: don't fall for it.
This. There isn't much that hurts worse than feeling like you love someone more than they do you
A lot of mentaly ill People, rope in the People arround them like that. They maybe can not help it or just won`t, but just know, you are a free Person, everything you do is voluntarily done, you can leave in an instance, you can demand, you can lead the way, you can be strong, you can make your voice be heard.
Unfortunately, many people grow up with passive-egressing manipulative family members, so it takes some life experience to realize this isn't "normal" and you don't have to play along.
Yep. After long enough, you don't even know - is this normal? Maybe I'm just not giving enough? Maybe I should try harder? Until EVERYTHING has been given, and she's still pushing for more.
Had/have one that was doing that and she didn't even realize it as she has had multiple abusive relationships and suffers from religious abuse where she had to get people to do what she wanted in order to eat. I have known her for over 15 years and started pointing out when it was happening which, at first, she was very defensive but has been recovering well with the help of doctors as well. Not all do it because they are bad but some do it because it is the only way they know how to survive so it's ingrained into their personality and just need help to understand there is a better way. Patience is a virtue and one who can pick out flaws in statements and actions.
i think this one needs a bit more context, what if she's mentally ill, and starving herself not to guilt trip you, but because she's genuinely depressed, and her friends are concerned. what if she's unstable and couldn't handle the breakup? what if you're ignoring her and blocking her out without telling her why? then again she could just be a snake but ya know, we need context
She needs professional help, and you are not a professional. Contact a health professional, but this is not about you, but about her.
Not talking to her is called the silent treatment which is a form of mental and emotional abuse..!! Her behaviour is a reaction!
And what did she do that caused him to not talk to her? People are writing dismissive comments on here without any kind of context, If she's starving herself as a reaction or as a coping mechanism then she needs professional help. It's not his job to remain chipper at all times regardless of how she treats him.
Load More Replies...If a friend of mine tried to commit suicide and blamed the SO I would NOT support them staying in the relationship. This whole situation is messed up.
See a health professional and someone who can give you advice about how to extricate yourself from her.
i had a guy do that to me once. there's something seriously wrong with people trying to chain you to them by threat of violence. keep all your voicemails and texts. expose her before she does something stupid.
What? If she succeeded she would make him feel guilty for the rest of his life, even if it isn't his fault.
Load More Replies...i will never understand the need to control what your man wears/does when he's not around you. it makes no sense whatsoever.
Tell her not to. Maybe she doesn't even realize, and it's just how she is
That is gaslighting. I don't get why so many people stay in such abusive relationships.
Many people feel like there's no way out. Like they walked into a room and the door just disappeared. Or maybe it's still there but its locked.
Load More Replies...i hope you find someone who can love you like you deserve to be loved, jake.
You deserve to be happy. There are so many people out there who will treat you with respect and love.
It is beyond sad that she received no consequences for physically abusing you, and utterly sick that people laughed it off. The system needs to change, now.
Good for you for speaking up. No one should tolerate that, no one should be belittled because of it.
All domestic violence victims need to be taken seriously and helped.
Stop doing S**t you know she'll hit you for. Hell been there with an ex he grabbed my hand roughly while I was trying to get into another room to gather my stuff so he got slapped and then he took it farther than needed and ended up getting bitten. Yes expect to be bitten when you try to restrain someone who will not submit.
Oh this is a big one I deal with on a constant basis especially when she throws out "You had all the free time after work to yourself and then you want to go out away from me on the weekend??" Mine you I get home real late and many times only have a few hours at most to get dinner and try relaxing before heading to bed to start another extremely stressful day of non stop work without a real lunch break sometimes (Walking around the office with a cup of noodles going to client desks to work on computer issues so they can go on lunch). Being part of a paintball team kind of requires some weekends that I have to be away and she has been invited, and showed interest, but has a hatred of a friend that has no real good reason behind it outside of he wouldn't let her become a roommate again because of tensions between the other roommates causing issues that would cause her PTSD issues to flare up.
No sympathy here if you spend more time at work and with your mates than the person you a supposed to be going out with it just shows that your not serious about her and need to end it.
Load More Replies...Blackmail. See a health professional and get advice on how to get away from her. She may simply be manipulative, or she may have real health issues that need to be addressed, but this is a huge red flag.
My son is currently in a abusive marriage, though I'm not sure he sees it that way. My DIL has made certain that his family doesn't see their baby boy. Now they're moving. He'll never know how much we love our only grandchild. So sad. All to appease her fragile ego.
maybe it is not about still loving her? Maybe It is about you saying when- when it is finally enough to leave an unhealthy relationship, sometimes love just is not enough and sometimes that hurts the most. Still, better by yourself, than beeing constantly distanced from yourself for the sake of said relationship. Maybe you are worth more?
Sometimes we do this not out of love, but afraid of change, starting over on your own.
These are tactics commonly used by abusers to isolate their significant other and render them more dependent and less likely to leave. I hope (it it's a current relationship you're describing) you're able to make a safety plan and get away. Best of luck
good lord. That is a terrifying sign. Imagine if that were a child. Please, please--if you know that about her, you know you must leave her.
This world CLAIMS to be all about equality, but if a man hits a woman in retaliation HE'S automatically demonized. Society needs a lot of work before true equality can exist.
Then she needs to act like it. And you need to get away from her before she does something more than hit.
What do you mean by this? That you would be the one in trouble with cops if you did, or socially? I don't know about specifics of laws or where you live but I'm pretty sure self defense wouldn't get you in trouble.
But it would be his word against hers that it was self defence and since we're conditioned to believe men are always the aggressor (physically they are far more often but that shouldn't make us overlook the fact women can be violent too) he would almost certainly be the one arrested. However, rather than lamenting that you can't hit someone back we should be focusing on the fact she shouldn't hit you anyway. Whenever someone emphasises it 'not being ok to hit women' as a sign of equality it just sounds like they want to hit people. If she's not hitting you (as per the tag) why do you care that it would be wrong to hit her back?
Load More Replies...I hate people who make false accusations. They are so vastly out numbered by people making real accusations and often not receiving any justice but they draw all the attention and make it even harder for real victims to be believed.
There's no maybe about it. He deserves someone who will accept him for who and what he is. Not someone who wants to change everything about his physical appearance. That 'aint love.
Load More Replies...She's not meant to say it but to be it...and then you tell it to her...
No one person should be the best thing in anyone's life or cause you to devalue the rest of loved ones and special moments u have. Agreed!
Been there, had it happen, council people who are now going through it after learning how to detect it.
Her relationship with me ended about 4 years ago. My relationship with her ended 6 months ago, when she told me she made an offer on a house.
Go find yourself a grown up. Unless you're always running off and leaving her home. Then you grow up.
Next time , you end it and walk away ... don’t make it a threat, make it a promise
The best relationship advice I ever got was this: "would you rather be married or right?" I think it's sound advice in a relationship, too. She'd rather be right than be with you. She's not much of a giving person, I'd guess...
I does sound like she has admitted that she's a prostitute, and you're just haggling over the price.
Load More Replies...Sounds to me, someone swapped your girlfriend for a hooker, and you didn't even notice.
You are dating gold digger-prostitute..... run away from ppl like this
It's so lovely how a lot of women always claim that men only see them as sex symbols and do not look beyong. But as soon as they want something, it is totally okay to use sex as their force.
I do get why it's tempting tho cuz when youre so constantly sexualized u grow resentful and just wanna use it and make the best of it to feel like u have control of your own body again. But the end result is that people lose respect for you and for women in general and that you end up being sexualized evn more than u wouldve been
Load More Replies...The spelling is correct, they just missed the apostrophe, it should be "you're".
Yup. Lots of accusations, none hold truth, but because she is a woman she is the one believed.
I am so sorry. Run. Run fast and far. Find people who celebrate you, not ignore your journey and struggles to get to a place where you can be you.
I know I'm going to get down voted, but I just want to check my understand of the issue, Varian was a woman that transitioned to a man, but still gets mistaken for a woman and his partner does not care, or is something else going on? What does it mean to not look nonbinary, would you not say you don't look like a man?
'Looking nonbinary' is a stereotype where the person has to look masculine instead of feminine. It's a social construct. Varian is a nonbinary person, and their assigned gender (what people thought they were when they were little, based on genitals) is female. Their girlfriend thinks it's okay to misgender them and that it doesn't matter. Examples of treating someone like a woman as opposed to nonbinary is talking about things, mainly stating "you're a woman too, so you understand," sort of thing. Hopefully this cleared things up a little!
Load More Replies...Huh? Are you talking about perfect strangers misgendering? I agree that once you tell someone, they should accept and honor it... but you're expecting too much if you think every conversation ever initiated should start with "What's your pronoun?" on the off chance a person identifies differently
I think this is a common way of letting someone know you aren't interested in a romantic relationship anymore, and it sucks because it's not clear words presented with the respect of a face-to-face conversation. It's the coward's way out. Sorry this happened to you.
I think they mean this hashing? About women being capable of non-physical abuse??? But idk, there is such an awareness of men as the abusers (which is very good and important) that I think there's a platform for a conversation about how they can be victims too. Yeah its true that women and men can both be victims of all sorts of domestic abuse, but focusing on one for a hashtag guiding a specific conversation doesn't mean your saying the other doesn't/can't exist. You're just saying giving a platform to a specific group of abused people who may not feel like they will be believed if they speak out.
Load More Replies...Who the f**k cares about the care? The car is a tool, not a measurement of "manliness".
but Motorcycles are awesome! unless it's like a scooter you're trying to play off as a Motorcycle
Load More Replies...I'm so glad they're speaking up about this. It goes both ways, and no one is excused for being abusive in any form. Ladies shouldn't think their partners are immune to abuse and manipulation just because (many of them) may be physically bigger. Both sides need to sacrifice, listen, and nurture.
No argument there. Sick of those women that make us all (the majority) look bad. Because most of us aren't.
Load More Replies...It's sad that it needs to be posted so people realize that SOME women are bitches too, just like SOME men are...hopefully it's not the majority, but we need to stop acting like we, girls, are all perfect and boys are mean...There are flaws on both sides...mental pain can be just as hard as physical.
Wow I really liked hearing these things. From my perspective of life, it feels I've only been taught men are the ones who break a woman's trust, and that it's much more rare for the woman to be hitting or controlling the man. There are definitely other forms of abuse, and this was really important for me to read, opens my mind a little more.
Yikes. Yes, we all need to realize that these things are done by and to men and women both. This thread includes a ton of examples of gaslighting, manipulation, isolation from friends, and other abuse behaviours which are dangerous and may even be only the beginning. For example I know that one of the signs that precipitates physical abuse is when a man (probably anyone) tries to take you away from your friends and family, either physically (geographically) or by destroying trust. And gaslighting (telling a person that something did or didn't happen (when the opposite is true), over and over until they start to question their own sanity). That one is *incredibly* dangerous. I hope all of these people find the strength to get out of these toxic relationships, and I hope people can begin to learn to recognize these signs. There needs to be more education on this topic, for *everyone*.
Mental abuse (silent treatment, withholding etc.) can do just as much harm as physical abuse.
Totally agree with you that mental abuse can be just as harmful (sometimes even worse), but is the silent treatment really considered mental abuse? I guess it depends to what extreme it's taken...
Load More Replies...Reading these tweets is empowering, yet sad as well for me personally. I had been in an abusive relationship with a woman for over 6 years and in addition to a most of the manipulation tactics listed here she DID hit me. More often than I care to admit. Nothing is more humiliating than getting slapped, called names, being told "I hate you", treated like a child, cheated on, isolated from friends, and generally made to feel worthless. But before anyone judges and says "why didn't you leave?", it was not that simple. Emotional abuse is complicated if you actually love the person doing the abusing and you you are suffering from low self-esteem as I was. Thankfully, I am out of the situation and have spent years rebuilding myself, but the scars remain. Guys (and girls), do NOT tolerate abuse like I did. The minute you get abused and you turn the other cheek, try and rationalize it, or otherwise tolerate it, you only serve to empower your abuser. Get out while you can.
Also for the suicide and self-harm threats - obviously if you know your partner has mental health issues you should try to support them (not fix them) but you are NOT responsible for someone else's emotional and mental health if it is at the expense of your own.
This right here is what I'm interested in. I don't just want to here how women are standing up to abuse. I want to hear how men handle it to because we don't like to acknowledge that we put men in a difficult position of always being on top and always being in charge and giving them no outlet for their feelings.
I'm so glad they're speaking up about this. It goes both ways, and no one is excused for being abusive in any form. Ladies shouldn't think their partners are immune to abuse and manipulation just because (many of them) may be physically bigger. Both sides need to sacrifice, listen, and nurture.
No argument there. Sick of those women that make us all (the majority) look bad. Because most of us aren't.
Load More Replies...It's sad that it needs to be posted so people realize that SOME women are bitches too, just like SOME men are...hopefully it's not the majority, but we need to stop acting like we, girls, are all perfect and boys are mean...There are flaws on both sides...mental pain can be just as hard as physical.
Wow I really liked hearing these things. From my perspective of life, it feels I've only been taught men are the ones who break a woman's trust, and that it's much more rare for the woman to be hitting or controlling the man. There are definitely other forms of abuse, and this was really important for me to read, opens my mind a little more.
Yikes. Yes, we all need to realize that these things are done by and to men and women both. This thread includes a ton of examples of gaslighting, manipulation, isolation from friends, and other abuse behaviours which are dangerous and may even be only the beginning. For example I know that one of the signs that precipitates physical abuse is when a man (probably anyone) tries to take you away from your friends and family, either physically (geographically) or by destroying trust. And gaslighting (telling a person that something did or didn't happen (when the opposite is true), over and over until they start to question their own sanity). That one is *incredibly* dangerous. I hope all of these people find the strength to get out of these toxic relationships, and I hope people can begin to learn to recognize these signs. There needs to be more education on this topic, for *everyone*.
Mental abuse (silent treatment, withholding etc.) can do just as much harm as physical abuse.
Totally agree with you that mental abuse can be just as harmful (sometimes even worse), but is the silent treatment really considered mental abuse? I guess it depends to what extreme it's taken...
Load More Replies...Reading these tweets is empowering, yet sad as well for me personally. I had been in an abusive relationship with a woman for over 6 years and in addition to a most of the manipulation tactics listed here she DID hit me. More often than I care to admit. Nothing is more humiliating than getting slapped, called names, being told "I hate you", treated like a child, cheated on, isolated from friends, and generally made to feel worthless. But before anyone judges and says "why didn't you leave?", it was not that simple. Emotional abuse is complicated if you actually love the person doing the abusing and you you are suffering from low self-esteem as I was. Thankfully, I am out of the situation and have spent years rebuilding myself, but the scars remain. Guys (and girls), do NOT tolerate abuse like I did. The minute you get abused and you turn the other cheek, try and rationalize it, or otherwise tolerate it, you only serve to empower your abuser. Get out while you can.
Also for the suicide and self-harm threats - obviously if you know your partner has mental health issues you should try to support them (not fix them) but you are NOT responsible for someone else's emotional and mental health if it is at the expense of your own.
This right here is what I'm interested in. I don't just want to here how women are standing up to abuse. I want to hear how men handle it to because we don't like to acknowledge that we put men in a difficult position of always being on top and always being in charge and giving them no outlet for their feelings.
