50 Times Landlords Were So Terrible, They Got Shamed In This Online Community (New Pics)
A friendly landlord is worth more than their weight in gold. If they’re fair, communicate well, and genuinely care about the welfare of their tenants, then you know for a fact that you’ve got a lot of stability in your life. On the flip side, landlords who refuse to do their duties, dodge your calls, and try to squeeze you dry probably deserve to be shamed online. And that’s exactly what the r/LandlordLove subreddit is all about.
An online community that’s home to 76.6k members, r/LandlordLove calls out the most horrible landlords that tenants have ever had the ‘pleasure’ of encountering. What these people went through is absolutely awful, and we wouldn’t wish it on our very worst enemies.
Scroll down to see just how bad things can get for some renters. If you’re feeling up to sharing some of your worst experiences with landlords, you can do so in the comment section, Pandas. Oh, and if there’s an additional bit of humanity that you’d just love to lose, check out Bored Panda’s earlier articles about r/LandlordLove right over here and right here.
One of the moderators representing the r/LandlordLove subreddit was kind enough to answer our questions about the community. They stressed that, in their opinion, landlording is "inherently unjust" and that, though there might be landlords who might treat their tenants better than others, "there is no such thing as a 'good landlord.'"
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Capitalism Is Inherently Unfair. It Favors The Wealthy
"There is no such thing as a 'good landlord.' The system of landlording is inherently unjust. Much like leftists will argue all cops are b*stards due to the system, we argue that all landlords are b*stards," one of the r/LandlordLove mods told Bored Panda how the community sees landlording as a whole.
"That being said, we understand there are Landlords out there that treat their tenants better than most, and there are Landlords who are exceptionally corrupt and greedy. The best way to get info on a potential landlord is going to be asking other current tenants. They will be able to provide insight when it comes to upkeep, responsiveness, etc."
According to the subreddit representative, having an active moderator team means that taking care of the community isn't as time-intensive as it otherwise would be.
Part of a moderator's duties includes "checking the queue for reported content (user-reported or flagged by automod) once or twice a day. This responsibility is shared amongst the mods."
I, For One, Think This Could End Up Wonderfully For Us All
Just Get A Mortgage!
The subreddit occasionally has actual landlords posting things. However, they're immediately banned because of community rule number 4 which prohibits landlords and "bootlickers" who defend them from sharing anything.
"r/LandlordLove is a tenant space in which Landlords and bootlickers are not welcome. Landlords hold significant wealth and power in our society—they don't need you defending them. Furthermore, this sub supports housing-for-all initiatives and subscribes to the socialist ideal that housing is a human right," the mod told us.
"We created this rule so that our sub would be a safe place for tenants. Landlords have many spaces on Reddit and other sites to share their opinions. They are not entitled to this space we've created. For the sake of transparency, we will often leave the comment up and make sure it has a proper response from a mod or user."
Inclusivity
It’s Not Much, But It’s Honest Work
So that's where the stray bullet comes from that hit the other guys solar panel
Hmm Landlords Don't Want Tenants That Know Their Rights?
Depending on the country that might actually be illegal and therefore ironic. 😂
The mod shared what steps tenants might take if they find out that their landlord plans to raise their rent an unfair amount. "The first step would be getting familiar with local tenant protections/laws. These vary considerably from state to state, even more so, country to country. We would then suggest the tenant get to know their neighbors and look into starting a tenants union. This is a huge undertaking, but there are a lot of resources out there that can help. Many of which we try to link to through our sub," they said.
"Ultimately, collectivizing is going to provide the strongest position/leverage. Aside from this, tenants will most likely find they don't have very much leverage. Laws in the US and other Western countries are generally written to protect private property and heavily favor the landlord."
Nice
I'd need to research this one but it's more likely the government would forcibly buy them (like they do for other projects that need the space) and not just seize them.
There was a public vote (more then 250k!) that specifically asked the government to buy those houses back. Prior to that there was a law that said that the rents could only be raised by certain percentages but it could easily circumfered and as well they let it run out (it should have been renewed). By then everybodies patience had run out. And yes, the government did not seize the buildings but bought them back. Although I'm not sure how that is going...
Load More Replies...Fun fact: this will cost about 5-8 B$ and no additional flat is built. And costs will be still high for msintenance. It just sounds good, but isnt.
So transferring them to private ownership means what? That people can buy them for less, from the government?
Yes, or that the rent is capped. The problem is that these huge private real estate companies control a huge percentage of apartments in Berlin and raise the rent to irresponsible levels.
Load More Replies...It's funny how the city where I live doesn't abide by the building codes they force on the citizens. I completely agree with the need for codes but the city's code go above and beyond state code. Case in point, code says a dwelling must be at least 10 feet from property line on either side and 35 feet from front and rear lines. This means no building on anything less than about 1/2 an acre. Yet they erected 6 new houses that are maybe 3 feet from each line. Supposed to be for people who can't afford a house. Heck these things are $130K. In our area, $130 is not a cheap house, especially in the area where they built these. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against helping people get a home and really have no beef with where or how these homes are located, but don't come to me where I'm restoring a historic home the city was afraid of losing and give me one set of rules while blatantly doing as you please yourself.
On one side, I’m thankful they are looking out for those who are struggling. On the other side, seizing sounds an awful lot like stealing, but from rich people.
There's also "land hoarding" where companies leave properties empty to ensure the price of rents stays high. Usually commercial properties, but if this is what they were doing with residential, then I say "steal away"
Load More Replies...You should perhaps mentiin that Berlin used ro hold ownership of mist of these buildings a few decades ago. They sold them. So perhaps they should build new ones for all that money? Ah noooo, the tenants of the buildings voted for "Buy Them Back" because they do NOT want enough housing for all, they just want their own rent lowered. I believe that buildings a few thousand new flats for social housing would really Help. But then the vorerst would still sit in old flats. Can't have that, obviously.
That's So Infuriating!
Facebook Sometimes Does Not Disappoint
The landlord may have separate bank accounts for each property. Many landlords will leave the rent in there to cover expenses at the property, and to cover at least one mortgage payment. But if they take all the cash out to spend, then money going in after the cut off point, 8pm in my country, will still see a charge applied.
The r/LandlordLove subreddit was founded exactly three years ago, on October 18, 2019. The mods of the sub explain that the name of the community is ironic. The sub is meant to be a “tenant-friendly space” for people to highlight the problems of landlordism and the awful stuff that some landlords do.
From memes to personal experiences and more, the sub touches on a bit of everything. At the core of the sub lies the simple idea that housing is a human right. Which might sound like a no-brainer to many of you Pandas. But considering how bad the situation is getting, rent-wise, it seems like not everyone feels the same way.
CNN reports that rents are up double-digit percentages in some cities in the United States. “Meanwhile, buying a home is the most unaffordable it has been since the mid-1980s. Mortgage rates have surpassed 6% and home prices remain just off the record highs hit in recent months, pricing many prospective homebuyers out of the market.”
A while back, my colleague got in touch with redditor u/RIPNightman, the founder and one of the moderators running the entire r/LandlordLove subreddit. In the interview with Bored Panda, they highlighted the fact that the community is meant for tenants, and landlords aren’t allowed.
According to them, the members of the group are “politically conscious and versed in left theory regarding Landlords and housing.”
He's Got My Vote
Queen S**t
Publicly Admitting That They Regularly Steal From Their Tenants
I Just Remembered This Awful PSA From During The Pandemic Asking Women Not To Prostitute Themselves To Landlords Because They Lost Their Jobs And Can't Afford Rent. How Can Anyone Believe Our Society Is Normal?
Landlord “Fixed” Nice Hardwood Floors
Shouldn’t Have Bought So Many Avocado Toasts
"Those getting into property management often do so with the explicit goal of being able to live off of this investment income. In most instances, the Landlord doesn't build the house—they purchase the property to rent out,” the moderator told Bored Panda.
"Successful Landlords contract out all labor which is required for upkeep. Many spend as little money as they can to maintain these properties, especially the smaller ‘mom and pop’ Landlords. What we have is a class of individuals that can be compared to societal leeches. People who live off of the money their tenants earn working for a living while doing as little as they can in return.”
Here at Bored Panda, we’ve covered intense drama between tenants and their less-than-stellar landlords time and again. A while back, we got in touch with financial expert Sam Dogen, the founder of Financial Samurai and the author of ‘Buy This, Not That,’ for a chat about how much we should be spending on rent. He stressed that we should be spending over 30% of our gross income on rent each month.
"Once you limit your rent to 20% of your monthly gross income, you'll free up a lot more disposable income to invest. If you want to achieve financial independence sooner, my housing expense guideline recommends keeping rent/mortgage to 10% of gross income each month," he told us that it’s always worth negotiating with your landlord for a reduction in rent.
Landlords R Parasites!
They Never Cared About You
Karen Landlord Can't Even Handle Other People Using Spices
"After all, if you never ask, you never receive. You just have to negotiate in a courteous way, not in a demanding way. As a landlord since 2005, all I want is great tenants who will take care of the place, pay on time, and be respectful to the neighbors. Plenty of landlords are willing to charge a discount to market if prospective tenants come across as responsible," the financial expert said.
Abolish Capitalism
Maybe in some countries. Here in Germany it ist illegal, you have at least try to rent it out if it ist not inhabited and you are the owner. However, if you are a tenant you are free to leet it stay empty. Your landlord will get a little stress from that, owning a flat that stays empty. Strange laws....
Like Scalpers For Concert Tickets
Reminder: People Don’t Need To Be Sober And Drug Free To Deserve Food, Shelter And Kindness
"If your rental property has fewer people, that's another great reason to negotiate the rent lower. For example, my previous tenants were a family of four with a dog. However, my new tenants are a family of three with no pets. As a result, I was more than happy to charge them less due to less wear and tear. In a hot rental market, make sure to come prepared with all the relevant documents when applying. The more thorough, the better."
100% Correct. F**k This System
Landlord Isn't Giving The Deposit Back Regardless So
Good Lord, The Hailfax Sub Is Just Ripe Lately
Landlords, and really all companies tbh, are banking on people not knowing their rights so they can cheat them out of as much of their hard earned cash as they can. Bastards. This is why those who advocate for the hands off approach to government are so incredibly stupid. We need oversight of such practices, otherwise business becomes greedy, nasty, cutthroat, and dangerous to the well-being of society as a whole. Become more aware of your rights, people, or you are going to be robbed blind and cheated out of living more than a life of bare subsistence.
One of the most powerful pieces of leverage that tenants have is the willingness to move elsewhere. "Landlords don't want turnover. If you move, even in a strong rental market, a landlord might lose a month's worth of rent or more trying to find new tenants. So it's best if there's continuity," Sam, from Financial Samurai, said.
“You Gotta Look At It From The Landlord’s Point Of View"
I Have No Words
Right?
Some of these post apear to be written out of jealousy. I'm a landlord because I worked hard, could buy my own property but then met my husband and moved in with him. Why would I sell my place if I could rent it out? It's a passive income. That's not evil on my side, but just the logical thing to do.
"However, if tenants can't find a better deal elsewhere and don't want to move, then tenants should try and negotiate. Landlords want self-sufficient tenants who never bother them. Therefore, tenants can highlight their on-time payments and care for the property, Tenants can also volunteer to do some cosmetic upkeep in lieu of lower rent. For example, you might offer to paint some walls or change some fixtures that cost less than the rent increase. Tenants can also volunteer to be a project manager for any larger work the landlord wants done on the house at the landlord's expense."
As Everyone Knows, It Is Impossible For An Object To Break After 4 Years Of Use
The World Doesn't Need Jeff Bezos. But Jeff Bezos Needs The World. We As A Society Need To Remember That
God Is Indeed Good
Won't she be surprised when owes the rent to the estate/heirs. God is too good.
The ideal tenant/landlord relationship involved very little friction and is harmonious. The more mutual mistrust there is, the worse the situation is for everyone involved.
"Good landlords will want to take care of good tenants and vice versa. Landlords have been burned many times before with non-payment, damage to property, rent moratoriums, rising property taxes, noise disturbances, and so on. These past occurrences are one of the main reasons why there are bad landlords. Work together to make things work!"
And Their House Was Twice As Large
Just An Honest Job. Honest Living
From Ireland Subreddit
Oops I Forgot
I Informed My Landlord That The Law States I’m Required To Give 20 Days Notice To Move Out In A Month To Month Lease, Not 30. She Was Not Happy
Sounds About Right
Cruelty Is The Point
Giver Of Life, Provider Of Shelter
Ok Let’s Add Thievery To The List
Bootstraps™️, Motherf**kers
Haha this title...I imagine this title being screamed at me by Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction
Pretty Nice Of This Landlord To Incentivize His Tenants To Exercise
Anyone Else Stand Behind And Back The Boys In Beige?
Important Reminder
Landlord Helps Himself To Tenant's Cookies
I thought landlords weren't allowed to go into someone's apartment if they aren't there.
Cozy Studio With Lots Of Light And A Great Waterfront View!
Very True
Unfortunately true. There is work landlords should have to do like calling repair people when their renters let them know something is broken. BUt too many landlords only take the rent check and never bother to do any of the other parts of their job.
You Can Stay Working While On The Toilet
Mathematically Perfect Tweet. Like Sacred Geometry Of Language
Bet they only own the surface and nothing below a certain depth. So I could tunnel under any time I want.
That's What Happens When You Don't Earn Your Title
A Thread
I pay $400 less than my neighbour across the hall (identical apartments) because I moved in 3 years ago and she moved in 3 months ago. I don’t understand rent.
Doin Work
Totally Cool. Discrimination Based On Being A Decent F**king Person
"Will Someone Please Think Of Those Poor Poor Landlords/S"
"My Tenant Is Dead. What's The Best Way To Gouge Money From His Bereaved Family?"
Hope This Survives New
Just Don't Eat Too Afford Housing
If you can afford rent on a home worth over a million dollars I’d say you know more about avocado toast than I do.
How Do I Deal With This?
This Is Hysterical
Why Is Househunting So Stressful... Psycho Landlords
Why Do Bad Things Happen To Good People
Will Someone Please Think Of The Landlords?!
Prob one of the Tesla driving pretentious scumbag landlords that bought houses at an extremely low price because it is in one of Mpls' dangerous neighborhoods. Who gets all rents paid by the county, which provides housing assistance for previously homeless persons, and rents it room by room, at 100% markup.
Inherently Exploitative
My last landlords, who I rented their home basement from, had their own jobs and I was just extra income for them. My current landlord, who owns several apartment buildings, has a full time job being a landlord. And she’s pretty great. Not all landlords suck, just most of them :)
Damn Weak Rentys
Please, Put The Pitchforks Away
No. Actually you’re not. The economy, as well as society as a whole, will get along just fine without you. In fact, it would do better without you, plus all the other leeches out there.
Free Housing
I don’t advocate for free housing, though housing should fall under “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” (homelessness is not happiness). But I DO advocate for reasonable, affordable rent and maintenance, and an end to artificial inflation of rent and property value. There needs to be a lid out on put of control pricing. People need to have a safe place to live that doesn’t cost in excess of one third of their net income. That’s really not too much to ask.
People Bad At Their Job Should Be Fired. Fired Directly Into The Sun
Landlords Work So Hard
I Had To See This S**tshow Of A "Meme", Now You Have To See It As Well
Boo Hoo
No you didn’t. You were able to apply for government assistance during the pandemic, and it would’ve been way more than individuals were getting, so your rent would’ve been covered while your tenants, who most likely weren’t deadbeats, but had been laid off or fired because of the pandemic and not through their own fault, desperately tried to find new jobs. F*****g grow a heart, a*****e.
One Person's Solution To A Pervasive Problem
Ohhhh Lord
I’m sure many would like to buy their own house. But they can’t mortgages, even though their rent is often more than the mortgage payments would be.
Calling Them Out
*gasp* but the waitress bought xy-thingy with the money *I* tipped her!!1!1!! Look at what waitresses spend *YOUR* money on
What I Suspect I’ll Be Dealing With In 10 Months…
When Our Turn Comes We Shall Make No Excuses For The Terror
Still No Riots
If I wanted to live in a barracks, I would’ve joined the military. Then my rent would be free.
Playing Monopoly
Then go around bragging about what kind of business wunderkind they are, when they actually only hit a home run because they got to start out, risk-free, on third base—-while having the additional safety net of their family’s money to fall back on if they failed.
Imagine Bragging About Living Off Of Other People's Labour
And if you ask them about this, they’ll say it’s taken out of context., dammit.
If A Bank Is Also A Landlord Does That Make Them Super Parasites?
Leech Paints Over A Roach
Airdropped An Eviction Notice
When Your Tenant Can't "Afford" Rent
🎶this Is How We Do It🎶
Saw This While Scrolling Facebook
From an objective standpoint, the knives in the landlords back do not appear to have penetrated too far and have likely done minimal damage. However, the tenant appears to have cut their wrist, which could be fatal!
Burden
That's Gonna Be A No From Me
This Made Me Laugh A Little. Thought Others Would Think It’s Funny
Have You Considered A Change In Careers?
Candace Owens Came Out As Pro-Landlord! 😍🥰❤️
The middle class are not landlords. The middle class wants a house they can afford to make and raise little middle class babies in.
So much hate for landlords! Yes, there are bad ones but there are plenty of good people just trying to make a living. If the tenants stop paying rent, how will the property owner cover their mortgage payments? I won't even mention the tenants who trash the property, causing thousands of pounds worth of damage. And no, suing them won't help, they won't pay, even if you can get them to court. Renting property is a job, there's paperwork and repair work to be done. There's no tax relief on mortgages in the UK. If you owned a shop, and people shoplifted, would you say they were right to do it, because property is theft? Probably gonna have a few downvotes for this, but I don't really want to let the anti landlords crowd have the last word without putting the other side forward.
I agree. This landlord = bad, tenant = saint is just nonsense. There is a wide spectrum of landlords and a wide spectrum of tenants. Abuses on both sides. I have a friend who has a multi family home in MA that he and his wife live in. Sometimes it is the only way that you can actually afford a mortgage (rent helps to offset the monthly cost). His rents are reasonable. He had a tenant come in to his first floor apartment. Within three months he wasn't paying rent and started defecating in bags and leaving them in the back hallway. You read that right. Why? He didn't know. It took him almost a year to evict him. The "landlord" is NTA as they say on Bored Panda. Oh, and this JUST happened. Final chapter and move out last week. Nightmare people on both sides of this issue.
Load More Replies...I had to stop reading the posts before the end as it was too depressing. Just because someone is a landlord does not automatically make them a bad person. I've had 6 different landlords in my renting life and never had a problem. The single time I had part of my security deposit withheld was fair, I did damage something. Felt pretty bad about it. Not everyone has the same experience.
When my husband and I got married we were living I guess you would call it an apartment home. Our landlord was a good guy and then he sold some of his properties. We then went through 3-4 different landlords before we eventually left. We had an ancient air conditioning unit that constantly leaked (there was a massive puddle of water in the space it was in). We called and they came to fix it but never cleaned up the water. We would notice wet spots in the living room carpet and around our entertainment center. We also had a crack foundation that kept us from opening our back sliding door. None of the landlords would fix it. On moving day, we noticed all our furniture had black mold underneath. We left some of the damaged furniture and huge black spots on the carpet. The landlord at the time called and was trying to make a stink about it. We told her no one would fix our problems and did not get our security deposit back so suck it and deal with it yourself.
Our last landlord showed up 6 weeks before Christmas to tell us our rent was being increased and that we also had to move because they got an offer they couldn't refuse. Turns out they lied from the beginning telling us they wanted long term tenants for at least 5 years (when they intended to kick us out after 12 months and give the house away), claimed government stipens during covid and took the extra money, not once did they lower our rent like they told the officials they did. They wanted extra cash. Then told is we needed to leave early cause the new owners wanted us out asap. We got the full 90 days to move instead of 2 weeks like they intended. There are few decent landlords.
My husband and I have been renting since we got married; over 18 years now. We're quiet and don't have children or dogs, and pay rent on time. Only ONE landlord has been kind to us in all that time, and we ended up moving out because he later allowed loud, disruptive, dog-owning tenants in the other part of the house (think upstairs/downstairs duplex). Every other landlord has been a jerk, or in the case of property managers, constantly sticking nasty-grams on the door (generally for all tenants, but nasty all the same). I've had about enough of renting. We only rented for so long because we didn't know where work would take us, but I'm ready to buy.
There are lots of bad landlords, especially those with multiple properties, but also many bad tenants. You noted the kind landlord also had loud, dog-owning tenants - they probably thought he was kind to them and that landlords that had an issue with their noise or pet were horribly unreasonable. It's difficult to please everyone.
Load More Replies...My landlord tried to schedule a quarter tenancy inspection. Never heard of this before, has anyone else?
Yes happens here regularly. Every months we lose a weekend to the property manager possibly showing up anywhere from 8am to 5pm.
Load More Replies...One day tenants will become property owners and some of them may became landlords. I'm guessing for a lot of these people, their views will change significantly!
Or the way they treat tenants will be significantly different than the landlords they had themselves. Who knows
Load More Replies...So much hate for landlords! Yes, there are bad ones but there are plenty of good people just trying to make a living. If the tenants stop paying rent, how will the property owner cover their mortgage payments? I won't even mention the tenants who trash the property, causing thousands of pounds worth of damage. And no, suing them won't help, they won't pay, even if you can get them to court. Renting property is a job, there's paperwork and repair work to be done. There's no tax relief on mortgages in the UK. If you owned a shop, and people shoplifted, would you say they were right to do it, because property is theft? Probably gonna have a few downvotes for this, but I don't really want to let the anti landlords crowd have the last word without putting the other side forward.
I agree. This landlord = bad, tenant = saint is just nonsense. There is a wide spectrum of landlords and a wide spectrum of tenants. Abuses on both sides. I have a friend who has a multi family home in MA that he and his wife live in. Sometimes it is the only way that you can actually afford a mortgage (rent helps to offset the monthly cost). His rents are reasonable. He had a tenant come in to his first floor apartment. Within three months he wasn't paying rent and started defecating in bags and leaving them in the back hallway. You read that right. Why? He didn't know. It took him almost a year to evict him. The "landlord" is NTA as they say on Bored Panda. Oh, and this JUST happened. Final chapter and move out last week. Nightmare people on both sides of this issue.
Load More Replies...I had to stop reading the posts before the end as it was too depressing. Just because someone is a landlord does not automatically make them a bad person. I've had 6 different landlords in my renting life and never had a problem. The single time I had part of my security deposit withheld was fair, I did damage something. Felt pretty bad about it. Not everyone has the same experience.
When my husband and I got married we were living I guess you would call it an apartment home. Our landlord was a good guy and then he sold some of his properties. We then went through 3-4 different landlords before we eventually left. We had an ancient air conditioning unit that constantly leaked (there was a massive puddle of water in the space it was in). We called and they came to fix it but never cleaned up the water. We would notice wet spots in the living room carpet and around our entertainment center. We also had a crack foundation that kept us from opening our back sliding door. None of the landlords would fix it. On moving day, we noticed all our furniture had black mold underneath. We left some of the damaged furniture and huge black spots on the carpet. The landlord at the time called and was trying to make a stink about it. We told her no one would fix our problems and did not get our security deposit back so suck it and deal with it yourself.
Our last landlord showed up 6 weeks before Christmas to tell us our rent was being increased and that we also had to move because they got an offer they couldn't refuse. Turns out they lied from the beginning telling us they wanted long term tenants for at least 5 years (when they intended to kick us out after 12 months and give the house away), claimed government stipens during covid and took the extra money, not once did they lower our rent like they told the officials they did. They wanted extra cash. Then told is we needed to leave early cause the new owners wanted us out asap. We got the full 90 days to move instead of 2 weeks like they intended. There are few decent landlords.
My husband and I have been renting since we got married; over 18 years now. We're quiet and don't have children or dogs, and pay rent on time. Only ONE landlord has been kind to us in all that time, and we ended up moving out because he later allowed loud, disruptive, dog-owning tenants in the other part of the house (think upstairs/downstairs duplex). Every other landlord has been a jerk, or in the case of property managers, constantly sticking nasty-grams on the door (generally for all tenants, but nasty all the same). I've had about enough of renting. We only rented for so long because we didn't know where work would take us, but I'm ready to buy.
There are lots of bad landlords, especially those with multiple properties, but also many bad tenants. You noted the kind landlord also had loud, dog-owning tenants - they probably thought he was kind to them and that landlords that had an issue with their noise or pet were horribly unreasonable. It's difficult to please everyone.
Load More Replies...My landlord tried to schedule a quarter tenancy inspection. Never heard of this before, has anyone else?
Yes happens here regularly. Every months we lose a weekend to the property manager possibly showing up anywhere from 8am to 5pm.
Load More Replies...One day tenants will become property owners and some of them may became landlords. I'm guessing for a lot of these people, their views will change significantly!
Or the way they treat tenants will be significantly different than the landlords they had themselves. Who knows
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