Indicators of economic development, like the GDP, do not always tell us how people are really doing. Or at least how they feel.
When the Pew Research Center asked 43,000 people from 38 countries if the world is better off now than it was 50 years ago, 43 percent said yes while 38 percent said no.
Interested in what things the latter group blames for their discontent, Reddit user Madbonkersbean made a post on the platform, asking everyone "What invention has most negatively impacted society?" Here are some of the most upvoted replies they've received.

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> In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
I would give you an upvote but you’re at 42 , so I can’t, great comment though
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Social media
I've watched society go from mildly disgruntled over multiple decades, to flat out delusional and insane within 5 years.
Nothing else has touched that many people all at once and undermined how we used to think of ourselves
It causes so much distraction and splintered thinking that people avoid looking inward, toward self.
Even those of us not consumed with social media have a difficult time evaluating our own thinking. We are all so overwhelmed.
Load More Replies...The only social media I do now is Bored Panda. I love you all, even if I'm sometimes a *******
Same! Not been on FB for 3 years, I never had twitter or instagram. BP and rarely Reddit.
Load More Replies...It's not social media it's individual manipulation. Social media platforms should be outlawed
Quit "personal" social media, much safer. Can't have another surfer guy from school talking about how his anorexic gold diggin blond wife is killing their baby with a fad diet. Yes killing a baby with malnutrition in Australia is ok if you're wealthy.
I'm not sure "nothing else" is accurate. In the middle ages most people couldn't read and had only the local priest to turn to for knowledge (which came from the church) and they drowned and burnt up women for witchcraft, and bled people who were sick... so I think people have just had weird views all through history. This is nothing new. If anything at least people can now find information that isn't coming directly from their parent's or the local clergy.
Subscription based everything.
So ironic that they’re cool with raising prices and profit margins every year but not wages. How are we all going to afford anything eventually? I propose we all start going back to DIY and foraging and growing our own food in apartment windowsills and quit needing brand-name everything to feel good about yourself.
Load More Replies...AMEN! This has gotten way out of hand! Subscription to use your seat warmers!!! Are you ?#*$!”% kidding me…?!
Subscription in my 23 Tahoe to use the navigation
Load More Replies...As much as I hate subscriptions myself, we had a software business for 30 years and wish I had started with subscriptions from day 1. When we sold the software with a one-time license many users would not want to buy upgrades, so our revenue stream was very much a roller coaster. We might do fine when the economy was good, but then we could go a year or two on a fraction of the revenue we had and would have to lay people off. I still hate when Netflix or anyone else can up their prices and we just take it...
The companies that have taken their basic channels into subscription based for viewing, reading or whatever type of content you wish to have access to. They are ALL greedy bastards ripping everyone off!!
The worst of the worst - subscription-based access to vehicle features.
LED headlights. F**k that guy.
Tie him to a chair and prop his eyes open, like in "A Clockwork Orange". Then make him look at his invention for an hour or two.
"If aimed right" being the salient point. Coming at you or following you, LED headlights are blinding more often than not.
Load More Replies...Somebody's gonna die for their LEDs one day. I always lose the center line when I run into those lights and one night it's going to be on a curve.
Piercing eyes yet powerless against fog & rain. F**k whoever made it standard in vehicles.
The car makers decided to go for LEDs, probably because they're more efficient and more reliable than incandescent lamps. Any light source has problems in fog, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Load More Replies...Sorry but IMO LEDs are awesome. So much light from so little energy. I love them.
Unpopular opinion: I much prefer them. Both in the car I'm driving and on other vehicles; I don't find them blinding as long as they're angled right; if you're on a hill then any car headlight is blinding, LED or otherwise. I always make sure the ones in my cars are angled down so as not to risk dazzling other drivers.
Religion.
Hands down.
I think it's important to respect people for their beliefs even if you don't believe in them, and that goes for everybody. You're not better than an atheist for being christian and you're not better than a christian for being atheist. The problem comes when people try and push that on other people and say that they are horrible people for not believing what they believe
Beliefs in sky daddy? Sure. The belief that a ten year old should be forced to give birth to her rapist’s baby? No. I disrespect every bigot’s beliefs in equal measure, from Christofascists to the douches who unshackle themselves from religious doctrines but still call women bìtches and slűts when said women turn them down for a date.
Load More Replies...Ditto. If people want to believe in God's and demons then that is their perogative and I respect that......just don't batter down my door at 8am to tell me about it.
It’s not religion, it’s the people who utilise it for the bad stuff like war, segregation and mother Teresa.
Name one good thing that religion does which does not already exist in the secular real world.
Load More Replies...It would for some. Say the women whos rights are being revoked because of religious beliefs or the LBGTQIA+ community whos lives are being threatened over religious beliefs
Load More Replies...F**k your imaginary friends and the policies created because of the nonsense feeble minded people "believe".
I sincerely wish it was never invented. There are roughly 4,000 'religions' and everyone thinks theirs is the 'right' one. Even if there is a magic man up there granting wishes and giving kids cancer, what are the odds that you've picked wisely and aren't just making it madder and madder every week? 1 in 4,000. It's amazing to me that the human ego thinks we're so special that god(s) exist and we're so important that they keep track of all of us. But not animals, no. They don't count. Why doesn't anyone see how silly the whole cult thing is? Humans are just a bad luck of the draw as far as species go. The world would have been so much better off without us in it. We've turned it into a District 9 wasteland with a Hunger Games mentality. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Considering all the various denominations of the various religions, I think the odds go into the tens of thousands as far as choosing the right one.
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Pop up ads... even the inventor hated it
It's why I read BP on Brave with ad blockers. It drives me nuts when sites won't let you see the content for the ads.
Load More Replies...I know the inventor. He is truly sorry for not thinking through the unintended consequences of his actions.
Open a Web-page. Deny cookies. Stop the video that just started. Close the banner. Close the subscription popup. Close the video that is still there, just not playing. Get a 'YOU ARE USING AN AD-BLOCKER' popup. Yeah, but it ain't workin!
Wait, you guys are getting ads? Seems like my browser is actually doing its job
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The thing that has the most negative long term impact on society is probably going to be something affecting us right now that we have yet to experience the full ramifications of
My bet is on the widespread presence of plastic in literally everything
I think the saddest thing is when humans manage to blow themselves off the face of Earth, the cr4p we have put into the Oceans will still be there for thousands of years, k!lling whatever poor creatures that have survived us. We really do suck.
Even after our greatest structures collapse and our satellites fall from orbit, plastic will still be there for thousands of years. If we all disappeared tomorrow plastic would be our lasting legacy, not our great works of engineering, art, literature, technology, ect.
Load More Replies...Apparently some bacteria are slowly developing he ability to digest plastics. Going to be a while yet but won't that be a fun day when it really takes off. Great for the planet but going to be tough when almost everything you own starts to rot.
Governments in America and Australia are shutting down research on behalf of fossil fuels (oil makes plastic) I only know of those two, I assume everywhere else is
Load More Replies...My money is on some virus or bacteria that is currently frozen somewhere in Siberia or Greenland
Ghost nets floating around and killing sea creatures will still be there when humans are long gone. This is one product where planned obsolence would be perfect. Dissolving might still be the better option than killing for eternity. To put it in perspective: A person finding a net in 4048 would be the same as us finding one that was tossed at sea in the year 0.
Facebook. Hands down.
Millions of users that are basically technologically illiterate with no critical thinking skills finly connected. They put faith/trust in the articles with attention grabbing headlines that are shared by their peers because they trust their peers and grew up in a time where you relied on the people in your community. But with no critical thinking skills they don't understand that an article about the earth being flat that was produced by an amateur crystal enthusiast has no scientific basis. They don't even know at the bare minimum to verify the source.
"Well aunt Edna shared it and she knows a thing or two."
It allowed misinformation and stupidity to spread incredibly quickly.
Stopped using FB when it became a cesspool of "im better than YOU", anti-vax, praise be to god minions, and hail trump posts
Stopped fb as soon as i got sent a picture of someones toast and coffee. I dont give a s*** about that. It was a quick period of time thankfully.
Load More Replies...I dumped FB, IG and Twitter which openly allow the crazies to perpetuate lies after lies….. We as a society will be the cause of our own downfall.
No, the worst thing about FB is the avaricious gluttony of our personal information that was definitely going on before, but is now just assumed to be part of signing up for any new website or downloading an app. Absolutely rapacious and grotesque!
It was when some woman my dad had been running around with posted that she was glad he couldn't see what a POS his daughter was. Someone else responded with, "Do I need to come down there to do an attitude adjustment?" My dad had passed away three days earlier. She was, "tired of waiting" to get some garbage that was in his garage. Until then, I had never felt the need to keep loaded protection on the nightstand.
I think the way that capitalism is designed to bring psychopaths and sociopaths to the top. those heartless f***s would fire their own parents/siblings for personal gain.
I wish people valued virtues like kindness and intelligence and respect more, and voted for people with those virtues
I often wonder if there are any left to vote for who actually possess those attributes.
Load More Replies...Sadder still, conservatives, by nature of voting like the morons they are, have made it easy for them..40 years of trickle down being a proven lie. Middle class absolutely gutted. Collective bargaining non-existent. Workers rights, stagnant or regressing.. Because they convinced the dumbest among us that their boss is just one more tax break or deregulation away from sharing. Stupid is as stupid votes. Thanks republicans.
I don't think you can blame only the republicans - the whole self-perpetuating US system is what's allowed it to happen, and not just for the last 40 years. It's worth noting that the policies of your "left wing" Democrat party are still a long way to the right of most European right wing parties. Even the UK's Conservative party is more socialist than the US Dems.
Load More Replies...Capitalism needs checks and balances or it becomes just this kind of s**tshow.
Where else are we supposed to get them? We’re completely reliant on manufactured goods. “Buying local” is impractical for millions of us because it’s more expensive and less available than the mass produced garbage peddled by big corporations. Our society is unsustainable. The patron’s choice in goods isn’t the long-term fix you’re hoping it will be.
Load More Replies...I'm surprised they haven't dug up their grandparents graves to grind the bones for fertilizer bucks.
Well, thank you for that well thought out and cogent statement.
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Trying to make money of almost every human need.
Almost? Is there a human need that hasn't been exploited yet? Someone tell me quick so I can make money off it!
Deepfake, the fact this has lead to morphing of many women images to "punish" them or to sexualize them is scary af. Literally feels like revenge p**n
I don't get the thing about "not so prudish". It's a question of consent and my right to determine how I want an unknown number of people to see "me"!
Deepfake also means that any evidence of crime or official corruption will be that much harder to prove.
I'm not saying using the tech as "revenge porn" isn't bad, but let's think about the fact that soon we won't be able to use any video content to prosecute people for crimes (armed robbery, murder, carjacking, etc.) because they can always say the technology exists to create the video rather than it being real.
Consent is the issue though; did the person in the deepfake consent to it or was it made without consent?
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AI, wait and see
What frightens me most about AI is that it's learning from our internet personality. It's like teaching a baby to speak exclusively by putting them in the front seat of a car during traffic and learning from the drivers road rage. AI is not learning how we actually interact with each other. It's learning how we interact with each other on the internet. That fact alone should leave us petrified of it.
Just read how Microsoft's Tay bot was turned into a racist nazi in hours because of how trolls trained it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot). That was back in 2016. The code is much more powerful now. While it is possible to train AI well, so many people don't bother.
Load More Replies...I don't need to wait and see. I'm not getting translation projects any more, just checking machine translations. No creative writing jobs either because much of the "bulk" writing is now just automatically generated. I've gone from being the main breadwinner in our family to utterly dependent on my husband within 5 years. If you think your job's not going to be affected, you're wrong.
Oh wow. That is damned scary. I'm sorry it's affecting your family so negatively.
Load More Replies...Just nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. If it is not done with care and precision it will go badly, but there is no incentive for people to do it well beyond their own sense of right and wrong. And so often people choose wrong.
I made a comment about people choosing wrong, not by malice though. The way I first phrased my response was way too easy to misconstrue, so I deleted it.
Load More Replies...Sci Fi is catching up with reality. If humans don't be careful, machine will rule some day. Back in the 60's, don't know who the writer was but wrote a book called Colossus. It is about the US government and the USSR government both creating their own super computers. They end up connecting together and end up controlling the world. The movie industry made a movie from that book in the 70's. The book was a part of a trilogy.
It most definitely has started. The public is pitted against each other left and right. With race, religion, politics- all designed to divide us. People forget there are things happening behind the scenes
Load More Replies...Does a IceCobotics count as AI? Because if so im not scared, yet anyway
Warning labels. They impede the progress of natural selection.
They're the type to walk up to a business with a closed sign and yank on the door.
Load More Replies...Well, some warning or informational labels are good. When you buy a rope, you want to know how much weight it will support for example. But warnings like "do not microwave children" shouldn't be needed.
Rope+ how much weight it supports is logical and a bit ominous at the same time 😂
Load More Replies...Think of the dumbest warning label you've ever read. The fact that it's there means someone somewhere did it, and they now have to have that warning. Both amusing and oh s**t our species is too dumb to live.
Like "do not eat" laundry pods, silica packets, etc?
Load More Replies...On chainsaw: do not use near genitals. Well too bad that's what I'm going to do!
I'm down with this one. Let Darwin do his job, stop warning these people and let them drop out of the gene pool. I think we need another big round of covid or two.
I presume this means that people with learning difficulties, mental illness, dementia, and brain injuries all deserve to die? I know I am going to get down voted for this but the above attitude makes me angry.
It was a poorly phrased statement, maybe deliberately by the op. Behind the flippant snark is the sentiment of it seems everything needs a warning label now, because some dumbass is going to hurt themselves doing something stupid, often times for internet cred or likes.
Load More Replies...I never thought of warning labels as an impediment to naming Darwin Award winners before!
Waiting for this warning label on electrical outlets: "Do Not Insert Tongue!"
Daylight Savings Time, at least where I live. You go forward an hour for spring and summer months, and you go back an hour in fall and winter. If you don't adjust very well to change, it can be a real b***h.
I feel like you. I get more annoyed by all the people being annoyed of DST. People are more annoying than time.
Load More Replies...Its POINTLESS now! All it does it f**k up schools scheduling, ppls sleep cycles, and business hours
Not in Phoenix Arizona...we said naaaw dawg that's gonna a be no from us.
Tiktok
TikTok started as a good thing but now totally fckd up. Human trafficking, dangerous content to be famous, animal cruelty etc. Bad bad bad…
No it didn't. It's always been planned to be what it is. It's spyware and manipulation
Load More Replies...I don't get how this works anyway. I am open minded, so installed it, and wanted to look for one of which the daughters of friends were fond of. Couldn't even find the search-function. It was an unstoppable, endless stream of wiggly people with incoherent babbling. Deleted after 30 min.
My boyfriend is annoyingly addicted to the app, some days I have to hear that s**t for up to 6 hours a day, the scrolling noises from cut off videos, the annoying AI voices, the s****y content in general 😂 I told him yesterday I’m gonna get him earbuds cos I’m so sick of hearing tiktok
Load More Replies...TikTok is about as useful as a lead lined life jacket and as entertaining as pulling your fingernails out with a pair of pliers. And about as safe as non-consenting sex with an alligator.
I wish you’d stop being so subtle and just tell me straight up whether you like it or not rather than making me guess 🤣🤣🤣
Load More Replies...You can control your content and there's a lot of good information on it. Its a much better alternative for news than Fox
I’ve never been on TikTok but I read a newspaper article earlier today about a woman on TikTok who has had over 100k views on a post about how she got a council house which is supposed to be for the most needy in society here in the UK. She has renovated the entire house with planning permission, purchased oak tables, had an electric fireplace built into the wall, has chandeliers, fitted wardrobes and numerous other things. If she can afford all of this how does she qualify for a council house? It’s because the government hasn’t figured out yet how to tax people properly on social media income. Someone without this kind of money is waiting for a roof over their head in her area right now. Sickening.
Nuclear weapons: devastating impact, global tensions, potential for catastrophic conflict.
I listened to a series of talks some years ago. The speaker made the point that assault rifles have killed far more people - orders of magnitude more - than have nuclear weapons. The Allied bombing of Dresden was just as lethal as the atomic bombings in Japan. Yes nuclear weapons are very, very scary - but in terms of people killed so far, don't really show up on the graph compared to other things we've done to each other. I mean, just look at the annual death toll on the roads.
I guess I'm not so much worried about "people killed so far" as the possibilities offered by nuclear warfare. Edit: this doesn't mean that I don't care about people killed so far.
Load More Replies...As devastating as nuclear weapons are, and I lived thru the 60s with the bomb fears and all, consider this: Nuclear weapons have made 'all-out' war so scary that wars have actually become less lethal in the 80 years. Consider the TENS of MILLIONS that died in both WWI and WW2 and compare it to the tens or hundreds of thousands that die in current conflicts. War itself is the bad thing, not the weapons.
On the other hand does nobody want to attack you if you have them and MAD (mutually assured destruction) probablly stopped the NATO and Warsaw Pact go at each other's throat directly during the cold war
Nuclear weapons ended the most destructive war mankind has ever waged
By far the most destructive side of the Second World War was the European side, and that had ended months before the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan. The nuclear bombings might well have reduced the death toll in the long run - but the worst was already over.
Load More Replies...The testing of nuclear devices and nuclear power essentially blanketed the globe for three decades with carcinogens. We don’t know the true impact of it.
Had they not been used in 1945, the Allied death toll in an invasion of mainland Japan would have probably been ten times (or more) the casualties in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Perhaps. Then again, the RAF was gearing up to join the US in conventional bombing of Japan. It could be that the Japanese death toll would have been ten times higher or more than the casualties in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. No one can be sure. Many have suggested that the bombing of Nagasaki wasn't needed - just a pause, to let Japan figure out that the thing to do was surrender.
Load More Replies...on the other hand one could argue that the mere presence of nukes and the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction is what kept NATO and the Warsaw Pact from turning the Cold War hot. .
Plastic, right now you have microplastics in every single organ, including your brain.
And for some having plastic in the brain is an improvement.
See plastics is mean girls for my generation but Dustin Hoffman dud a spoof in the simpsoms early 90s of it
Load More Replies...Of all the things we face, this is the one that I can see no fix for. We're screwed
Cigarettes killed 100million people in the back 80 years of the 20th century alone.
The tribes warned the Europeans that tobacco was a dangerous and vengeful plant, to be used sparingly and only in ceremonies. The Europeans dismissed that advice because those people were just ignorant savages.
Yup! Tobacco had its place in tribal communities. It was not used just in the ceremony and it was never used by younger people. They understood what tobacco did to the body and had the models in place to teach those ethics and ways of being. The genocide of Native Americans and the boarding school system that stole native youth and tried to erase all that tradition and knowledge. The return of traditionalism in native communities is amazing, given what their people have had to endure.
Load More Replies...Four TRILLION cigarette butts are thrown away annually. ONE is enough to kill an animal, to pollute several tons of water.
OK, people, the consistent barrage of false information in the US about vaping has everything to do with big tobacco. Here is some info from Europe and the bottom line is that if you MUST inhale nicotine, vaping is better. I am NOT talking about illicit thc infused wax or oils that caused popcorn lung, just about regular vape juice. This info is from the government, NOT just some random - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nicotine-vaping-in-england-2022-evidence-update/nicotine-vaping-in-england-2022-evidence-update-main-findings
Vapes are starting to show their very bad health effects and much worse than cigarettes 🤔
Infinite Scrolling and I daresay algorithms that feed into an echo chamber.
The information bubble echo chamber is the worst. It's what has fed so many negative things in our world. I miss civil discourse where we could learn from one another instead of just shouting at one another.
High-fructose corn syrup
Our form of government should not be called a Democracy. It should be called a Bribe-ocracy.
Load More Replies...I don't understand the hate on HFCS, it is no worse than regular sugar. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9551185/
Because people can't be bothered with learning why they're supposed hate something. They don't care to learn that the human body treats sugar as sugar, regardless of the form, and that the real reason to hate on HFCS is that it's cheap enough to put way too much in everything, so it is used in everything in quantities that are too high.
Load More Replies...We live in the UK where this isn’t common but my daughter thinks on a much bigger scale and has a real problem with big pharma because of this and reads every label on every food item because of it. She did me a huge favour really. My spending on fresh fruit, vegetables, meat, herbs, spices and honey has doubled but my spending on processed food has dropped by 90%. We eat better and spend less.
I’m actually allergic to fructose. Even fruit! But the added corn syrup in everything is really bad. I have to read labels so carefully! Why is it added to everything? Even Ritz crackers!! If it’s processed it’s more than likely going to have high fructose corn syrup.
The two negative impacts HSFC has had on society...1. It's cheaper than sugar so companies will overload their products with it. 2. It's yet another one of the things that people think they know what they're talking about when they don't, in fact, know anything about it and lies just keep getting propagated.
Kid friendly 'youtube shorts'. I just feel like it ruins the attention span of children, giving them short/one minute attention spans over time. They just get sucked into that s**t. I know it's not super significant compared to other inventions that could've negatively impacted society. I'm trying to think of something that might not have been mentioned here yet lol.
Super creepy too. I saw a documentary about it a couple years ago. I wish I could remember where I saw it, but it was about groups mashing together free 3D animation assets with kids songs in order to suck kids into these endless playlists on YouTube for ad revenue. Parents will just hand the toddler an Ipad and the kid spends hours watching these playlists and YouTube counts it as interaction so the "creators" get money. At least it's creepy and at worst it's dangerous.
It's not just YouTube Shorts, if you look at a lot of children's shows now,they are like 10 minutes long.
I grew up I the 60's and 70's. Back then there was no internet or home computers. For me my big down fall was the television. It has affected me down to this day.
YT Kids period. F*****g parent n monitor your own children. All this does is screw over creators and animators
It must be easy money. Look at the views on those things. Kids will play the same one over and over, no matter how stupid, meaningless, and empty of value they are. More clicks, more money, right?
Asbestos. I feel very bad for the people who were unknowingly affected by it.
Asbestos didn't do anything but exist. Man dug it up and made clothes from it. I swear some people are half awake when they type this nonsense
Um what? 😂😂😂 I’m sorry for laughing, I don’t think this post is literally blaming asbestos for just existing in nature….the message you should have taken from this is that we didn’t understand asbestos very well at the time and it really sucks that people were harmed or even died due to human ignorance/lack of scientific information. OP is acknowledging this fact and showing empathy. THAT is the point of this post, idk what your thought process was 😂😂 “stupid humans always blaming asbestos, it’s not fair! It’s doing asbestos it can!!”
Load More Replies...The falling "snow" that was used in The Wizard Of Oz was plain ol' asbestos. It was everywhere on set. Look it up.
And they used it as a safety precaution because paper cotton or plastic was a fire hazard with the lights they used. In their defence, they didn't know it was that dangerous at the time.
Load More Replies...Oh, you mean like the stuff that insulated the steam pipes and turned into powder on the floor from kids picking at it in our 100 yr old school?
That would include every US child who went to a school built before, say, the 1980s.
Asbestos was just sitting in the ground minding its own business
Load More Replies...No one invented asbestos. It's a naturally-occuring mineral. It's fibrous nature and resistance to heat and corrosion made it useful as insulation back when they didn't realize the full effects.
Load More Replies...Asbestos is harmless until it starts breakdown into microscopic particles. Those when inhaled get stuck in lungs cells and might cause cancer.
Cancer and other diseases - and asbestos, being a rather brittle mineral, always sheds some dust if it's exposed.
Load More Replies...One of a notable applications of asbestos was its use in some Cigarette filters... Tar and other Carcinogens not enough? Here add some highly carcinogenic crystals to you lungs.... all in the name of flavor!
The 24-hour news cycle .
They have so much time that they have to make more stories to keep you informed. 24-hour news will be our downfall. Half an hour every night is enough.
There's actually enough going on in the world that the stations should be fine. They just don't report any of it.
Actually, I don't watch the evening news at night - I watch it in the morning so I don't suffer from anxiety at the state of the world before bed.
We are not all on the same schedule. There is less than an hours worth of news repeated and changed as new news comes in. I want to see the news when I am I have the time, not when you want to see it.
And showing IRL human death every half hour. Those people had family that don't need to see it repeatedly
Stretching 30 minutes of information into 24 hours has created more misinformation than anything else.
Junk food.
Not a bad thing per se, but lack of will power is! I love a cheap and dirty burger occasionally, but I think the last time I had one was 10 years ago. Chips (or fries) I have more frequently, but not more than once every few months.
the fact that you think people eat fast food cause of "lack of willpower," is mond boggling. Food Deserts are real and you are lucky you do not live in one.
Load More Replies...Junk food is not the problem, constant consumption of junk food is the problem.
As with all consumptions, it’s important to maintain moderation. I need my Whataburger fix sometimes, about twice a year.
Junk food is engineered to be addictive with all the salt, sugar and white flour in it. The reason every MacDonalds burger anywhere in the world tastes the same is because of the flavor enhancing chemicals put into every burger.
Absolutely NOT a problem for the majority! Or, more concisely, anyone outside the US...
Away with you. I love a McDonalds/Burger King meal - and I have one fairly regularly. Once every two or three months.
Leaded petrol is estimated to have lowered the IQ of everyone born in the 60s and 70s by around 6%.
That's my excuse anyway, what's yours?
I had a time travel brain fart and asked for unleaded (instead of regular) at the gas station years ago. My wife laughs about it with me to this day.
Is that weird? My local gas pumps are labelled as “unleaded” or “diesel.”
Load More Replies...The boomers who were hippies are the ones who fought for unleaded gas as well as removing DDT as a form of pesticide.
Silent Spring. Book that largely influenced the banning of DDT.
Load More Replies...You have Mr. Claire Patterson to than for getting leaded gasoline out of America.
We still ask for 'regular unleaded' at full service stations. Old habits die hard.
It seems to penetrate into genes, younger generations are not to much wiser.
You didn't have to drink it. Lead can be breathed in, taken through the skin, ...
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Everyone here is only drawing from relatively recent examples , but if you go back longer then really alcohol is the winner here as it has had the most long lived and consistent negative impact on all societies around the world.
and technicaly speaking, without beeer we would not have a civilization, beer was a safe drink becase water wasnt drinkable... but yes, i have to agree, alcohol had very long and very negative impact on society. and its legal becase someone could make money of it, noone cares if its harmfull. they would sell azbestors drinks if they could make a money of it...
I thought that “water was undrinkable” thing was debunked?
Load More Replies...I dunno; alcohol plus technology created certain horrors (drunk driving) and alcohol worsened others (domestic abuse), but when I look at the causes of suffering people endured even through the industrial revolution, I'm not sure alcohol was a chief cause of it.
Funny, I don't remember a single war fought because of the presence of alcohol (Not counting the vast stupidity of U.S. Prohibition). Capitalism, greed and religion, though...
Completely wrong, but I get where you are coming from. Understanding the fermentation process eventually led to clean drinking water.
Alcohol was the thing that saved us at one point but now I don't disagree that it's more trouble than good
I disagree with this one. Alcohol goes back hundreds of years and I don't believe it's the problem, it's that it's used to escape the reality of stress and anxiety and depression as well as mental illness
Sugar in our food and drinks.
especially in those products where it does not belong at all. E.g. bread is not supposed to taste like cake, but the producers don't seem to mind as long as they can get people addicted.
Some American bread is classified as cake in the EU because of the amount of sugar in it
Load More Replies...We knew about it in the '50s and '60s, but the sugar industry in the US paid for "research" that "proved" that sugar was not bad for you and that fats were. It led to us becoming a nation of lardasses whether we liked it or not (see: low fat and "diet" foods that were laden with sugar).
Load More Replies...Sugar in the morning, sugar in the evening, sugar at super time. When you put sugar on a bagel, you can have sugar any time.
Ok, but for real tho, those doughnuts look like sweet sugary heaven!
Ive got a few here but if i have to pick one:
Fractional reserve banking and fiat currency. Giving the banks power to manipulate the value of currency has been a blight on society, it has been used to enrich the banks and steal wealth of money, i wish we could go back to money being a unit of value not a fiat currency that can be manipulated.
Yes, we need to shrink the economy by pulling money out and get back to the gold standard. We can tax the rich 90% to support the unemployed. Vote for simplistic solutions to complex problems. /S
I would note that every attempt at slowing growth orchestrated by the federal reserve resulted in a crash that devastated the working class and left the uber-rich unharmed. Seriously, they were 0 for 13. (2007, 2001, 1993, 1982, 1980, 1973, 1969, 1961, 1958, 1953, 1949, 1945, 1937). The basic theory was raise interest rates, drive homeowners into bankruptcy, cause loan-dependent small business to fail, and eventually the big corporations will slow down pay raises. Forget trickle-down growth, this was trickle-up poverty, it was based on the notion increasing wages was bad for the economy, it ignored the fact that lower-skilled workers were the first to get fired and last to get raises, and it was the official policy of every administration from Roosevelt to Obama, including both Bushes. (Initially, Reagan resisted it, but later gave it credit for lowering interest rates and inflation.)
If you remember Hillary Clinton claiming during her presidential campaign that the unemployment rate couldn't drop any further, she was referring to the notion that the unemployment rate was already below its theoretically sustainable minimum of 5%. In fact, continued economic growth created better wages, which brought more people into the workforce. Economists failed to consider (deliberately?) that "headline" unemployment rates ("U3") didn't include tens of millions of people who were underemployed or surviving on government benefits or retirement funds.
Load More Replies...Maybe the US needs to go back to the gold standard. Not sure if that would help any.
Without fiat currency we would not be able to devote vast sums to foreign aid and welfare programs.
The Fed is a corrupt non-government agency created to control the corrupt US
Guns. Literally their only purpose is to take the life of another living thing.
There have always been weapons. Before guns there were swords, bows and arrows, battle axes, etc. Unless the need to provide and protect are eliminated, there will be weapons.
Guns put a distance when there wasn't one before. For example - In a sword fight both parties are in close proximity to each other. With a gun you can hide in a bush and shoot.
Load More Replies...You want to go to Ukraine and fight with a sword? Be my guest. Until the human race can learn to play nice we're gonna need them.
People are killed with guns every day in the US - but none of them by soldiers in the course of duty. It's some of the non-military gun holders that are 100% of the problem.
Load More Replies...To be fair, I think it's good that police officers don't have to go into hand-to-hand combat with people that are armed with knives
Which is why a taser should be first choice, depending on the circumstances
Load More Replies...Think of other things that are 'target sports'. Soccer/football. Hockey. Baseball. Golf. "Put the projectile in the target area before the opposition does it, or with least effort." The list goes on. And if you think the difference is 'a gun'. think about the cost and skill-level involved in golf.
Load More Replies...Well this has been an entertaining run through the pros and cons of guns and gun control. I’ve no desire for citizens to be armed, I have no desire for my country to change its approach to gun control, it works here, we don’t feature on any charts for gun related deaths, our Police don’t carry firearms (although we do have armed response officers) and officers lives are not regularly threatened, so I guess we are doing something right. Despite what some U.S. politicians would have you believe we don’t have a knife crime problem, we have knife crime but it’s nowhere near the issue they’d have you believe. We have 0.04 gun deaths per 100,000 citizens, compare that to 4.12 per 100,000 for the U.S., we come in at #189 the U.S. at #32. You can cut it however you wish to, you can justify it in whatever words make you feel good but the bottom line is that firearms are a problem, sooner or later someone will have to put on their big boy or indeed big girl pants and deal with it.
Gun ownership - especially in America - is the issue. Being able to easily buy firearms from supermarkets and feel you have the right to store them is a massive issue.
I...am conflicted. I love guns. I have several and love going to shooting matches. I'm also super liberal about everything but this. Gun CONTROL is a good middle ground. Machine guns are unnecessary. A medium size pistol is still really fun and cool to look at!
Nope. Their purpose is to defend their owners. You can use literally anything to kill a person, but you need something at least equivalent to the other object in order to defend yourself.
Coffee pods
Coffee production itself is bad for the environment to start with.. as I read. So this is making I even more.. 😅😕
Load More Replies...When they first came out I thought to myself they were a stupid idea that no one would buy into because they are so obviously wasteful. Who wants to pay to throw so much away with every cup? Turns out I know nothing.
Yeah, who knew $1 /cup coffee would not be just a C-store thing. You could pay that much at home...how exciting.
Load More Replies...I wasn't real cool with the K machines initially but the concept of the one-serving thing was great for me. I just bought a few of those re-usable pods. I got 6 for $10 (US). They work great, clean up nicely, and I can use my regular coffee. Cheaper, one serving and no plastic toss-away pods.
Not the Senseo pods ! They are ground coffee and paper. They are actually good for the environment.
No, they are not. The paper is treated to produce the little froth on black coffee, and is not compostable at all. Plus it needs packing facilities, so more factories. Nothing goid for the environment. Black coffee does not have froth. Buy coffee beans (and a hand-operated grinder) or ground coffee and a cafetiére. Even drip coffee prepared the old fashioned way with a filter on a thermos is better for the environment.
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Adding lead to gasoline, adding lead to house paint, using lead pipes ... I know that lead is a fundamental element, but exposure to lead in our environment causes cancer and brain damage.
Google 'leaded gasoline deaths' and you'll find the inventor of leaded gasoline additives (Thomas Midgely) is sometimes called the greatest environmental disaster of all time.
Midgely caused the hole in the ozone layer, too - development of CFCs.
Load More Replies...And when they added the Lead, of course that increased the price. So naturally, when they stopped adding the Lead, they lowered the pr……!never mind.
The people who added lead to those did it for the positive effects and only layer found out there were big negative effects. Iirc the man who invented leaded gasoline did it to make the engine run smoother but became a big opponent to his invention when he learned just how much lead people were absorbing. But the oil industry took a leaf from.the tobacco company playbook and tried to male him look crazy while hiding negative tests.
Yes, but lead is all natural, not one of those horrible chemicals. /S
The problem with lead paint is that it tastes sweet. Little kids would eat the paint chips and just flood their little bodies with lead; which adversely affected their health and brain development. In this context, lead is more dangerous than copper.
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It's often speculated that had the cotton gin not been invented, slavery might have ended sooner
Only by applying a new definition of 'slavery' and comparing numbers with those counted under the old definition. If you applied the same definitions to history you'd end up finding that the vast majority of humankind through the ages lived in slavery.
Load More Replies...Nope. Slavery was happening long before the cotton ginny. Most of our imported spices and teas were grown/harvested/carried on the backs of slaves as one example. Chocolate is still too often a slave market. The cotton ginny was not a catalyst for slavery, merely a tool often used by those inclined toward enslaving others.
The original poster should read some history. Sugar was the most sought after product until the Industrial Revolution. Sugar was grown in the Caribbean and was cultivated, harvested, and manufactured by African slaves whose life span was measured in months and not years. Sugar production is absolutely brutal and extremely labor intensive. In order to maximize profits, sugar plantation owners usually had their slaves work in 24-48 hour shifts. They literally worked them to death knowing full well that they had a cheap, steady and easily obtainable labor supply from the slave ships arriving from Africa every year.
Sugar production was the original cause of the Atlantic slave trade - and the whole thing was down to us Brits.
Load More Replies...If beet sugar had been discovered before came sugar then it might not have started in the first place.
The cotton gin would have put an end to much slavery. Why have a group of slaves deseeding cotton when a machine could do it accurately, never get tired and not need to be fed. But then, what do you do with the slaves? That was a real problem after the Civil War ended; most had done nothing but farmworh or housework, so where do they go?
The slaves were used to cultivate and pick the cotton, not just process it. Cotton picking machines weren't common until after WWII, and hadn't totally displaced manual cotton picking in the 1960s. Also, "what do you do with the slaves" sounds like a slave-owners argument. All you have to do is give them their freedom and they'll live free lives. After all, in an agricultural society such as most of the USA in the 19th century, if you can work a farm and do housework, you can live very well. The only real problem was that some whites didn't want the former slaves to be free, hence Jim Crow and so on.
Load More Replies...Not true, they harvested bumloads of tobacco. Cotton would probably less important than tobacco! Addicts!
The cotton gin probably helped reduce slavery, since fewer people were required to process the raw cotton than before.
The cotton gin just increased the profits of the landowners. Black people were still being bought and worked to death in huge numbers.
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PFAS
pipocapop:
This should be higher on the list. Almost all waterproof products and stain resistant products contain PFAS. Even fast food wrappers contain them. It is found in majority of water supplies and 90% of people’s blood and we don’t fully understand the health effects. It does not degrade and accumulates in the food chain.
Google it. This is not me being sassy - everyone should educate themselves on these dangers, and there’s more info than can be summarized in a Bored Panda post. Please educate yourselves (and also make sure you know how to differentiate between a good information source and a bad one! Priceless skill in this day and age)
Load More Replies...3M in Antwerp ditched it secretly for years in the Westerschelde. It poisoned nature reserves, including a brand new one which was flooded on purpose with the poisoned water despite protests, and the sea food people were harvesting since centuries. It sits in the blood of these people and those who had a garden with fruit and vegetables next to that factory. The scandal came to light a couple of years ago, when somebidy got curious about strange pipe, leading from the factory are, under a fence, into the Westerschelde. It is now forbidden to eat any seafood caught in the eastern part of the Westerschelde and very much discouraged to go swimming
It was such a sh*tstorm in 2021 and then september last year it was discovered they were doing it AGAIN, only this time they claimed leaks caused it and they didn’t know… >.>
Load More Replies...I just read this as "Peas" and was super confused why veggies were a blight on mankind 🤣
Me too. I was thinking fresh and frozen are good, but the canned ones are for sure a blight on mankind.
Load More Replies...Yeah, fun fact! While eventually regulations were finally put in place to regulate and screen chemicals back in 1976(Toxic Substances Control Act; recently updated in 2016) it grandfathered in 10,000s of already in use chemicals. That is, if it was already in production and in use, it wasn't subject to the same strictures and oversight as new chemicals. Many of these chemicals have NEVER been tested for any harmful effects on anything, let alone humans...
People working at factories that produce teflon pots and such get cancers. just type "teflon scandal" for the US, "3m Scandal Belgium" for Europe. Interesting TIL for people that do not own birds: cooking with Teflon around birds will cause their airsacs to get badly damaged. here is an interesting article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3276392/
So you are claiming that something we don't even understand the impact of, if any, is the worst negatively impactful invention in our history. Say greater than nuclear bombs?
Shareholder Value
Focusing on this quarter's bottom line for shareholders to the exclusion of all else is destroying our economy and society.
The problem is, that many good ideas too need money for development, so people investing in it and they, of course, want to get back more than they put in.
Too often VCs give the money to who has the flashiest, most impressive pitch rather than who has the business plan that will work. WeWork is an example of this.
Load More Replies...This is behind so much! Whenever a company states something like "customer safety is our top priority" or "keeping customers happy is our top priority" or "taking care of the environment is our top priority" I'm saying to myself that clearly it can't be as the legal requirement is that making money for your shareholders has to be top priority (while not breaking the law). Clearly shareholders need protection, you can't have companies taking money and then blatantly not trying to make a profit for their investors, but other legal requirements need to be put up there with equal footing, such as something around impact on the environment.
That's a myth. There is no law that requires maximizing share value, in the short or long term.
Load More Replies...Yes, I love paying my electric bill, only to find out they gave the excess to shareholders and didn't do all the required maintenance so their profits look really good....then the next year they raise prices because the maintenance now needed is urgent with lots of OT and heaven forbid they ever post a loss
Nuclear arms race and proliferation...
And your point is….? If it’s still a danger it’s still going on the danger list 😎
Load More Replies...Not a popular opinion, but it's also a strategy to avoid medium/low intensity conflict, with a dissuasive aim. ''Big stick'' foreign policy in USA is based on this. During Cold War, no major conflict happened thanks to nuclear weapon between East block and Western World, because each party knew that if they send nukes, everyone would be totally destroyed without a winner. Even war have its laws
Industial production of tobacco products.
It's not that easy. It seams, if you compare urban agriculture vs conventional. The urban releases, in general, much more CO2 than conventional. But some things better, ex tomatoes. But I guess it also depends on location et cetera. Have not read it all, but here is the source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s44284-023-00023-3
Load More Replies...Bitcoin
Cryptocurrency is accelerating climate change and no one seems to highlight the dangerousness that it is causing. I hope it ALL implodes upon itself!
People use it in some countries because their national currency is so unstable that Bitcoin is better. It’s also a faster way to send money. And another cryptocurrency, BAT, is just super cool. It’s what Brave gives you for clicking the ads provided by the browser (which are optional and they’re personalized using a method that doesn’t compromise your privacy, though it doesn’t work very well yet) and then you can use it to tip websites that accept it. To me, this seems like a very good use case for cryptocurrency.
It's vastly accelerating climate disruption.
Load More Replies...A lot of people made millions of dollars investing in Bitcoin. It's worth double right now than it was a year ago, even.
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The leaf blower: Satan's own instrument.
I cannot put it better than "Satan's own instrument". My favorite is when you see some guy trying to move a wet leaf on wet pavement with one for minutes when it would take two seconds to rake it or pick it up with your hand.
But how would I know it's 7 in the morning if my neighbor didn't wake me up with the leaf blower, I might not make it to breakfast
Load More Replies.....alongside the handheld vacuumcleaner. My dad has one, and the noise it makes is really interuptive and annoying. You basically cannot think while it is being used, as you are constantly interupted for a few seconds at a time. Use a god damn rack to remove those breadcrumbs instead of turning it into a family busieness. Basically everyone but him hates the device.
Well, at least the handheld vacuumcleaner doesn't kill so many insects in their natural habitat. I hope ;)
Load More Replies...Lobotomy. In hindsight very few unlucky people actually underwent lobotomy but still.
My mum's school friend was lobotomised when they were in their teens because she had anorexia. Mum said she didn't seem to have a problem with anorexia any more after that but that she had a whole host of other problems instead and was never the same again. No wonder. That was in the UK in the early 70s.
Holy fûck. As someone with chronic anorexia (I'm mid-30s) that's terrifying. In her TEENS???
Load More Replies...The practice of cutting nerves in the brain is still in use today - with MUCH more precission. It's done for treating heavy cases of epilepsy for example
Neurosurgery now is pretty incredible. My friend had surgery for her epilepsy. What with MRIs and EEGs etc. we have more of a clue what we're doing- back then it was an utter shots shîtshow.
Load More Replies...Which is only .0002% of the US population.
Load More Replies...I hope this is not in bad taste. There is a song called I rather have bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
The lobotomy is a medical tragedy yes, but many believe it needed to happen in order to gain a much greater understanding of the subject. Theres really good articles and podcasts on the topic. It was a really interesting topic to learn about
S**t likes this is legal for undersge gay kids in most western countries
??? Maybe there was a time this was grossly abused, but in modern context it's helped a lot of people too.
It scrambled part of your brain so you were more docile
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The invention of Fentanyl. Destroyed so many people, families and frankly society in general.
No, it did not. There are other drugs, some equally bad, some worse. Like most of them, Fentanyl is very good when used for the purposes it's intended for. Society in general is exactly where the blame lies.
Every other country in the world doesn't use it. Fm same likes for opiods and guns. Wt America you shouldn't like killing kids or your population for fun.
Load More Replies...Fentanyl in the form of a dermal patch spared my late wife a lot of pain as she lay dying. One less pill she had to take, a constant, low level delivery of pain relief.
I'm very sorry for your loss, and glad your wife's passing was eased.
Load More Replies...Fentanyl is not the problem. It's the p**s poor mental health and drug laws/policies. They don't even sell fent anymore. It's all tranq. That xylazine evil stuff
Not to mention people with chronic pain, not getting prescription pain killers and going to the streets out of desperation
Load More Replies...As someone who received fentanyl in ICU when my gallbladder was on the point of rupturing and I had sepsis I can't agree with this. (I also have prescription opiates for a chronic pain condition.) The US particularly has a problem because of the way drugs are marketed and doctors are paid for prescribing drugs (and paid more for prescribing brand names over generic, which increases costs for the patient, but that's another rant) - it doesn't work that way in the UK. We still have problems but we don't have the same level of opioid crisis that you have the other side of the pond. Your system is screwed.
Crack did the same thing to the black community 4 decades ago and no one gave a fukc. In fact, it pulled our society more conservative with war on drugs (the poor), militarized policing, and punishment over rehabilitation. Only when the "crack effect" happened with a drug that hit white America similarly did it become a "health crisis". Conservatives watching blacks OD 40 years ago: "lock em up!!". Conservatives watching their grandkids OD today: "Oh my God this opioid epidemic is tragic and needs to be addressed. Addiction is a disease. I know... Let's blame Mexicans! Build that wall and lock em up!".
Yes and no. Fent just replaced heroin which already had a heavy market in most cities. Crack always new. The reactions I fully agree with.
Load More Replies...Mmmmmm. Fentanyl. That few minutes before surgery was the happiest time of my life.
Oh, you sweet baby angels who are so so innocent. Fentanyl is nothing compared to Carfentanil, which is 10,000x more potent than Morphine and 100x more potent than Fentanyl. It's already in street drugs, you just haven't heard about it yet. And when it really gets up and running, it will make concerns about Fentanyl look teeny in comparison. And I didn't even get into another synthetic opioid also just starting to turn up on the street: nitazene. Gives me literal chills!
The stock market. 100% serious
...causing the elimination of defined benefit pensions thereby transferring the risk of loss to retired people. "Oh, you have a 1/2 million for retirement...not any more!"
The real answer is the misuse of psychological research. People learned how to use words and imagery to manipulate the masses, and it spiraled into modern times: instant gratification at our fingertips, advertisements guiding us by the nose, the dopamine hit of seeing engagement of social media, etc. Without a good understanding of human psychology, these things might have still come about, but it would have been slower, less effective, and people could have learned. Instead, we have companies that focus on encouraging the populations addictions and marketing the..
The 9-5
Or even longer. I work in the field and if we are expecting rain for the next 3 days we hit it hard.
Load More Replies...To be fair, 9-5 was better than 6am-6pm or later. But I get your point.
How are the people arguing that people should work more?? Just because, "it used to be" or "I work this many more hours" doesn't mean that is the way it should be. Most people aren't working in agriculture. Most are working jobs that exist too make a small group of wealthy people wealthier.
The 9-5 workday (40-hour work week) was instituted to get rid of the 'dawn-to-dusk' work day, if I remember my history lessons correctly. It was a blessing then, but I still think that's too much.
Nobody needs a 40 hour work week more than half of that 40 hours of being at work is just sitting doing nothing. Would rather be at home doing something else.
Depends on the job. There are jobs where you really are busy all day.
Load More Replies...Highly processed food. I can understand the mass production of it at a certain time but now there's no need for it. Eat whole foods people. "But it's expensive" NO IT ISN'T.
It actually is. Many people live in areas where the ONLY locally available food is processed, shelf-stable food - food deserts/swamps. Many people work multiple jobs and don't have the TIME to go further afield to source fresh produce - time = money, and travelling = money. Some people cannot afford to run a proper fridge or freezer so cannot store fresh/frozen produce, and people living paycheck to paycheck also cannot make use of deals to stock up. Lots of people literally have no clue about how to start with cooking, and it can be intimidating. If you've never cooked you have to buy equipment - pots, pans, knives. Proper cooking uses energy when bills are rising. And often it takes time. Time = money, and if you're working multiple jobs you're exhausted. And if you have kids you don't want to be battling with them over food when you get home. I cook, simply and cheaply, but I have advantages others simply DO NOT HAVE.
'Ultra-Processed People' by Chris Van Tulleken is a REALLY good book that looks at the food industry and how it is, how it got that way, why it stays this way, how it affects people and how people are trapped in it, government and legislation around it, and where we might go from here. Highly recommended.
Load More Replies...Without coherent regulation by governments this is going to get worse and worse, and the whole of society pays the price.
That's hard to accomplish when the government is being paid off.
Load More Replies...Many "processed" foods like tinned beans, frozen veg, milled flour (yes, that's a 'process' too) are all great, much less waste, much better nutrition to the plate, much more safety, much less cost. But yes, some/many manufactured foods are unhealthy, expensive and environmentally unfriendly.
Even in my country, traditionally exporter of fresh produce, prices have skyrocketed and the only thing that remains affordable are processed meat and flour based goods. There are studies that show that meat and fish consumption has fallen almost 40%. 20% for veggies. People are eating what they can, not what they want to.
And by the way, if you can find meat "on the hoof", it is invariably cheaper to buy...and you know the source. 1/2 pig,1/2 cow, etc..
Protestant work ethic
It is the basis behind why the US has such lousy working conditions. Sick? Work through it. Someone died? Work through it. Tired? Work through it. At one point, it supposedly "made you closer to Godliness". In reality, it just makes for a toxic work ethic.
Load More Replies...Isn't that: work hard, if you're successful, it's all your and God's credit? And if you're poor/unsuccessful, that is b/c you deserve it? Plus, by no means, don't have any fun?
It goes back at least as far as the Puritans in New England and used to be called the Puritan Work Ethic. Your best goods go into the parlor where you meet visitors so those things can convey "Look how God has blessed us." Women sew and knit in public meetings to prove what industrious goodwives they are. But you've hit the gist of it, Rachel. Including the "no fun" clause - these are the people who literally banned Christmas for quite a few years.
Load More Replies...They started it. No, not started... They perpetuated it.
Load More Replies...Smartphones
The invention itself is a good one I'd say. Comes in handy many times. How and how much you use it is a matter of self-control (if you're a grown-up).
"Comes in handy". Did you know that the German word for a smartphone is... Ein Handy?
Load More Replies...Disagree entirely. There is zero downside to a smartphone. The only issues are how humans handle it.
Well, I feel a lot less anxiety going somewhere I don't know because I know I always have a map in my pocket ^^
I personally love smartphones for the convenience of a map, communication device, medical device for some, fitness tracker, entertainment device, flashlight, camera, and more all in one.
One of the professors from my last job met with Johnathan Ivey (head of the team that developed the iPhone). He said that if they had known what the iPhone would do to us and to society, they would have killed the project. Ya gotta think ahead and of unintended consequences when doing something like this.
I can find no evidence of Jony Ive (Jonathon Paul Ive) ever having that sentiment.
Load More Replies...Kids with early access to the information highway. My friends child, a 6 year old built a webpage for homework yesterday. It was very basic, but he was asking the right questions and utilizing them while building the site. And we, my friend and I were talking about how scary this is, because now this child will be bored out of his mind as an adult, and most likely will be depressed beyond what we can imagine. And since this is being done from school and everywhere, we can't really limit the usage.
So you’re telling me kids who have basic internet skills will be bored when they’re adults? Educated people are apparently a bad invention now.
Obviously this means they should limit the his curiosity and creativity at his current age to acceptable levels so he isn't as ambitious and developed as an adult as he had the potential to be.
Wait why is this kid knowing how to build a web page going to fill their life with boredom and clinical depression?
No, this how society moves forward! The transfer of knowledge is a good thing, it means we can be able to advance as a civilization and utilize new perspectives that haven't been seen before. Encourage your kid's curiosity and help them develop critical thinking skills and knowledge, and soon they can become the new generation.
How horrible: kids hungry for knowledge! Who will likely NEVER get tired of learning and will go on to be leaders of the human race's future. Really girl, the problem isn't your friend's child; it's you and your friend.
He won't be bored, he'll be dead by 36, because that will be considered "old age" in the coming generations due to their bad lifestyles: not exercising, going blind at 32 by staring at screens all day, no social skills, online everything, crooked neck, back and hands, until total breakdown happens and boom, you're crippled, alone, and nearly dead at 35.
Lol what did I just read? Holy c**p I hope op never had kids. They'll keep them bored on purpose. Wow.
Umm, but you really can limit the usage. You're the parent of said child and you provide the technology and internet. It requires more work and time to provide other age appropriate activities and it's much easier for the parent to just give in so they don't have to deal with an upset child.
The private automobile. Gigatons of carbon in the atmosphere, largest source of microplastics in the ocean, smog, millions of deaths and hundreds of millions of injuries, pollution of fresh water through oil run off and salted roads, fragmentation of ecological habitats by bisecting contiguous habitat with death corridors, promotion of sprawl development, promotion of social isolation and disintegration by creating a culture of McMansions in said sprawl in which they have nothing to do but watch Fox News, defunding or outright destruction of public transit networks, underfunding of sidewalks and bike lanes to the point where obesity-related diseases are destroying public finances.
F**k. Cars.
But if industrialization has taken its course without automated transportation, we may be even more screwed. ...Horses at the modern world scale wouldn't be doing the environment any better. I'm not defending fossil fuel, but horse pollution was its "vehicle emissions crisis" of its day that not a lot of people consider.
The post is about PRIVATE cars. Not other motorised vehicles like buses, trains or lorries. And for those who may have missed it: there has been a replacement for horses for over a century... the bicycle!
Load More Replies...This is just dumb and sounds like one of those morons from r/nocar or whatever it's called.
Automobiles, and the related trucks and aircraft, are responsible for your current standard of living. You can live in Colorado and eat Lobster for dinner. You have fresh produce and fruit in the middle of February in Colorado. You can go from Colorado to Florida for spring break and be able to enjoy warm weather and sunshine in February. All because of the road system and the vehicles that run on them. Yes, everything has both good and bad things about them. But you are only focused on what you consider the bad things.
I live in a town with no bus or taxi and it's small. There's very little here and the closest town with any of that is 10miles
So, when your house is on fire, you won't mind the horse drawn fire engines coming to save your house?
It says it right there in the beginning: this post is about THE PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE! Not fire engines, lorries, trains, ambulances, buses. THE PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE!
Load More Replies...I don't have a driving licence and I have never needed a car. I have an e-bike though, and if I want I can use public transport.
Load More Replies...Most people don't have a choice. Just because your city has public transport doesn't mean other cities or countries do and some countries are so spread out that traveling without a car is very hard
You don't want to use public transport where I live, you'll be waiting for ages for a tram or bus. But we have excellent cycling paths, and e-bikes make it a easier to get around. It wasn't always so, for a long time cars had all the priviliges, with a lot of dead pedestrians and cyclists as a consequence. But our European gouvernments were willing to change and make cities and villages safe for every road user. With walkable city centers full of life. I can cycle or walk to work, to the shops, to my local pub, to my doctor's practice, my vet, the tram- or busstop.
Load More Replies...pretty hard to do when there are none. the world is a wide and varied place.
Load More Replies...The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
I can tell that this person doesn't have any type of chronic medical condition. I am personally very thankful to the people pushing science and development. The encouragement of overconsumption under capitalism to stimulate the economy is the problematic part. (Also it's very offensive saying advanced and third world, the currently used terms are undeveloped and developed with lots of statistics and charts designating stages of a society's development.)
My powerchair gets me out and about when I'm too fatigued/I need to travel too far to walk/I have to carry things. My medication keeps my mood fluctuations manageable (bipolar), prevents gastric ulceration and rupture (consequence of eating disorder, not bacteria), and prevents seizures (potentially fatal). Modern tech means I survive living alone with minimal input from carers and I can manage my personal hygiene independently. My kindle lets me access 10s of 1000s of books with no storage issues and my phone and tablet let me stay connected with friends I would have otherwise lost contact with. I've also been able to inform and educate myself on a huge range of topics. I found my cat online (she's a rescue) and chose my vet practice online, and I order her food in bulk online (it's heavy, and not available locally). Need I go on?
Load More Replies...Op sounds young and idealistic. They wouldn't have any of the abilities to criticize these things had they not happened. They'd likely have died in childbirth or as an infant.
It's been messy and ugly, but since industrialization, life expectancies, literacy rates, women's rights, infant mortality rates...literally every metric that defines quality of life, has improved across the board. It's more nuanced than that obviously. And personally I think this shift towards everything being better for everyone is directly correlated to secularism's emergence (less god=more quality-of-life in every measurable is factually irrefutable) but industrialization has paved the way like it or not.
Ah yes because working on a farm for 15 hours a day and going home to your children dying of the common cold was just so much better
......coupled with the push of "oh, you say your body (joints, tendons, etc ) is sore from a lifetime of physical labor? Sucks to be you, you now will work to 70 before qualifying for an acceptable retirement." What the Actual F^^^
I am sort of disagree with quite number of them. There are nuances to everything. Plastics are useful, cheap and multipurpose. We just have to dispose & recycle them properly. Same thing with social media. They connect us. In a way that was not possible before. We just have to use them properly. Limit the usage when appropriate. LED lights. They are bright, high energy efficiency and can last a long time. It saves energy (70 -80%) vs less than 5% on incandesent light. Even paid subscriptions has its place. Especially if you intent to use them only for a short amount of time. Cheaper then buying it outright at the full price. Saying all of them should never existed is doing great disservice to society.
I mostly agree with you. Except I do think we should reduce our use of single-use plastics. The thing about recycling is that many plastics aren’t actually worth recycling because it would cost more and use more energy than just using new plastic. The quality also degrades when they’re recycled, so you can’t just keep recycling them infinitely. We shouldn’t eliminate them completely, but we really don’t need to use plastic for everything we’re using plastic for. What’s surprising, though, is that plastic grocery bags are actually better for the environment than the other options as long as they’re disposed of properly (incineration). But I’ll keep using my reusable bags because I have to use them at Aldi if I don’t want to buy paper bags every time and I might as well use them everywhere else. And the post about LED lights was specifically about LED headlights on cars, which are too bright and make it hard for other drivers to see.
Load More Replies...I'm surprised no ones said this yet...but, the plow. I've heard it said that agriculture is the worst thing human beings invented. It allowed us to discontinue a nomadic hunter/gatherer life, and allowed us to live in environments we aren't physically well adapted to. Becoming sedentary with more food allowed the population to grow, gave more time to create new technologies, and created greater stress on the ecosystem surrounding us. This is an overly simplistic explanation, but without the plow (agriculture) the huge society we have with its guns and smartphones and bitc9un or whatever would t ever have even been possible.
So you’d rather live in a world without electricity, cars, modern medicine, etc? Because that’s the alternative.
Load More Replies...I know it isn't as big of a deal, but pump bottles. They never work for me. I'll buy a different brand rather than be stuck with a f*****g pump bottle.
I hate them with a passion, disgustingly over engineered
Load More Replies...I suggest everyone read. "the good ol days, they were terrible". Get some freaking perspective.
This sounds like some young and idealistic posters who have little perspective on life. Some are spot on. Social media, plastics, lack of humanity etc. But some are just flat out dumb.
The pharmaceutical companies being for-profit. I recently lost my state funded health insurance, and the thyroid med that I need to STAY ALIVE went from being free to $500/month. Fortunately my work offers insurance and I was able to switch over quickly, but what about people without insurance, or without insurance that covers all their meds? What about the price of insulin? It's disgusting that companies are making a profit off of meds that people literally need in order to live.
Bored Panda was never very good at giving an honest and balanced appraisal.
Not caring how other people live there lives is my new goal in life. I'd be much happier. Life is short.
I am sort of disagree with quite number of them. There are nuances to everything. Plastics are useful, cheap and multipurpose. We just have to dispose & recycle them properly. Same thing with social media. They connect us. In a way that was not possible before. We just have to use them properly. Limit the usage when appropriate. LED lights. They are bright, high energy efficiency and can last a long time. It saves energy (70 -80%) vs less than 5% on incandesent light. Even paid subscriptions has its place. Especially if you intent to use them only for a short amount of time. Cheaper then buying it outright at the full price. Saying all of them should never existed is doing great disservice to society.
I mostly agree with you. Except I do think we should reduce our use of single-use plastics. The thing about recycling is that many plastics aren’t actually worth recycling because it would cost more and use more energy than just using new plastic. The quality also degrades when they’re recycled, so you can’t just keep recycling them infinitely. We shouldn’t eliminate them completely, but we really don’t need to use plastic for everything we’re using plastic for. What’s surprising, though, is that plastic grocery bags are actually better for the environment than the other options as long as they’re disposed of properly (incineration). But I’ll keep using my reusable bags because I have to use them at Aldi if I don’t want to buy paper bags every time and I might as well use them everywhere else. And the post about LED lights was specifically about LED headlights on cars, which are too bright and make it hard for other drivers to see.
Load More Replies...I'm surprised no ones said this yet...but, the plow. I've heard it said that agriculture is the worst thing human beings invented. It allowed us to discontinue a nomadic hunter/gatherer life, and allowed us to live in environments we aren't physically well adapted to. Becoming sedentary with more food allowed the population to grow, gave more time to create new technologies, and created greater stress on the ecosystem surrounding us. This is an overly simplistic explanation, but without the plow (agriculture) the huge society we have with its guns and smartphones and bitc9un or whatever would t ever have even been possible.
So you’d rather live in a world without electricity, cars, modern medicine, etc? Because that’s the alternative.
Load More Replies...I know it isn't as big of a deal, but pump bottles. They never work for me. I'll buy a different brand rather than be stuck with a f*****g pump bottle.
I hate them with a passion, disgustingly over engineered
Load More Replies...I suggest everyone read. "the good ol days, they were terrible". Get some freaking perspective.
This sounds like some young and idealistic posters who have little perspective on life. Some are spot on. Social media, plastics, lack of humanity etc. But some are just flat out dumb.
The pharmaceutical companies being for-profit. I recently lost my state funded health insurance, and the thyroid med that I need to STAY ALIVE went from being free to $500/month. Fortunately my work offers insurance and I was able to switch over quickly, but what about people without insurance, or without insurance that covers all their meds? What about the price of insulin? It's disgusting that companies are making a profit off of meds that people literally need in order to live.
Bored Panda was never very good at giving an honest and balanced appraisal.
Not caring how other people live there lives is my new goal in life. I'd be much happier. Life is short.
