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Whether you’re the oldest or youngest person in your workplace, there’s a good chance you’ve noticed some generational gaps between you and your colleagues. You might have been at the company for decades, meanwhile your desk mate just graduated from university last week. Your employees might use lingo that you don't understand, and they might be incapable of relating to conversations about buying a home, having children and remembering what the world was like during the 90s.

After having a few funny encounters with younger team members, one Gen Xer reached out on Reddit asking others to share their own experiences working with millennials and zoomers. Below, you’ll find some of their funniest and most frustrating stories, and keep reading to find a conversation with Tom Brunskill, CEO and co-founder of Forage!

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“Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials We have a Gen Z administrative assistant for a team of Gen-X cops who work Internet Crimes Against Children (among other things). For a while she was in a near perpetual state of shock between the cases we work and just us in general. Seeing her wander around with a VHS tape trying to figure out what it was was one of the most hilarious things that has happened at work. She's onboard now, loves us, we got her to perfect her eye roll, say "whatever" with the proper inflection and become very liberal with the middle finger. We may have been a bit too successful with the Gen X conversion therapy.

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Costa
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A great example of proper management fostering a good working environment without the need for conflict. It really isn't that difficult if people are patient and willing to see the other side's point of view.

Shelli Aderman
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“Gen X conversion therapy!” 🤣

Jessica Isaacson
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's both hilarious and depressing that she doesn't know what a vhs is

WonkyPB&J
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

HEY NO FAIR I KNOW HOW TO USE A VHS TAPE(im gen z)

TheGoodBoi
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

LOL "perfect her eye roll"

Simon T
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I the only person in Gen Z who’s heard of VHS

90HD
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, my grandparents have it and I managed to make Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade function on it.

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Janis McClure
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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was about her age too when I worked as a civilian in a police precinct. I worked youth services and was a bit overwhelmed but the officers I worked with were awesome until the jelly donut incident and they all got the middle finger. Glad she got comfortable with the job. As a newbie your coworkers and management can make all the difference in the world but sometimes we're not always that lucky.😅

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1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

...and before anyone knew what happened, she had all y'all wrapped around her little finger 😎

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    #2

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials This is not true of most of the under-30 crowd; I've worked with plenty of great kids. However, in the last eight years, I've had to train several young adults who just cannot take direction without assuming you're trying to change them on some fundamental level. I've been in supervisory and training positions for 25 years and had never heard someone tell me, 'I don't like doing it that way,' and when I tell them they have to, they accuse me of trying to make them do things my way. "It ain't my way, kid, it's the way it's done here, it's the way I was also taught to do it. It's as if they have no concept that work isn't free time and that they're a part of a team (or what being part of a team even means). It blows my mind, and I still haven't figured out a way to train these kids. They often end up feeling oppressed and out of place and end up leaving or just getting fired for not learning how to do work.

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    Reemerger
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my circle of friends there are quite a few who didn't and don't seem to do actual parenting. When their kids act out, they are the last to do sth about it. And they're offended if another adult tells their kid off. I reckon this has been going on for a while.

    Astrius
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is sadly how actual adults spoiled brats come to be..

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    Realistic Optimist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually agree with what's being said here... I think. When you're in a team, you sometimes need to prioritize the team. If you're off just doing your own thing, chances are you're just adding work for someone else. Sometimes change is healthy, but forcing a team to change, or anyone to change, when they don't want to will never work. Adapt to their way, or decide its not worth it and leave. Don't make yourself a problem they need to deal with. It has nothing to do with being right. It's the reality of working with different people.

    PFD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And sometimes "the way it's always been done" is stupid, ineffective and superceded by changes in tech, culture, economy... Or people just accepting "the way it's done" go for years working suboptimally and underperforming because they've been forced into unsuitable working practices by inflexible elders who've spent 25 years without revisiting their assumptions.

    J C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, but you just can't replace processes and do things your own way until you figure out why they are done a certain way. Often there are reasons for doing it the "way its done" like maybe someone got hurt and that inspired a certain checkpoint process that is slow but ensures that never happens again. It might look "stupid" to do things a certain way but at least ask why before trying another process.

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    Bartlet for World Domination
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly this. My 25 year old coworker spends her time at work chatting to everybody, complains of 'negativity' when we try to get her to, you know, work, and says she feels sad to not feel part of the team. The team is three people who work very hard to make life easier for one another, and her.

    Id row
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hired a young woman to look after my mom for after her surgery. The day after I hire her and two days before the surgery, she announces - not asks - announces she'll be on vacation starting on the day of my mom's surgery and the next 3 days after - exactly for when I needed her the most! All she kept saying was, 'I have to do what's best for ME'. I swear to god, I never want to hear that phrase again.

    Jessica Urquhart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg, I feel for you, and totally agree about that phrase. I think everyone can do with a little less thinking about themselves and a little more consideration for others.

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    Donna Peluda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, this so true. I'm all for the work to live not the live to work, but for the love of the flying spaghetti monster, put some effort. Don't come to work as if it you were going to the slaughter house.

    Shaquille Oatmeal
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a person who was raised by boomers, I will admit that my generation over-corrected and gave their kids too many rights and too much freedom. Gen Z and Alpha do indeed tend to be stubborn and obnoxious and think that everything older people say, do, and think, is wrong.

    Damned_Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had this same problem with older workers too. I've been told that the employee can't do the job the way they were trained because "I just don't think that way". I've also had older employees argue about a procedure because "that's not how we did it when I worked at X Company" Well, this job has nothing to do with your old one, so you need to do it our way.

    I_imagine_even_worse_w***s
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a team of 20 and 30 yos....I'm an older millennial but I have found that any criticism even constructive is taken as a direct attack on their character. I hate to be that old fogey but it's worse with the younger ones. Maybe they change with experience but I don't remember encountering it until more recent years and I've had people who reported to me for more than 15 years. I'm hoping it's just I didn't notice it as much before.

    KillerKiwi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My little sister says this to me. “That’s not the way I do it in my life!” Yes it is, kid. You’re 8, wash the damn dishes the way they’re supposed to be washed

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where did they get that?? It's like a virus in the air!

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    #3

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I've noticed that any level of directness is often perceived as a personal attack and the height of aggression. No, I'm just not bulls**tting you, out of basic human respect.

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    Ron Baza
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a young guy who couldn’t do his job, and we gradually tried micromanaging more and more tightly (first making tasks more explicit, then timings more explicit, then asking for updates through the day to ensure he was doing as asked) but it barely had any improvement. Trying the opposite just meant his output collapsed, and his work never improved. But I manage people 20 years ago who had the same problem, it’s just there’s fewer places to hide in my industry nowadays if you’re hopeless.

    The Starsong Princess
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would agree with that. The younger ones just aren’t as good as concealing their incompetence as previous generations. Perhaps that’s a skill they will develop over time.

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    Libstak
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like direct people, I don't have to wonder what they really mean. Also, they tend to compliment as directly as they criticise and it's an even spread of honesty by the end of a week.

    Catlady6000
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I grew up in the South. I have a deep appreciation for Yankee directness

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    Flora Porter
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my millennial reports called me aggressive for saying her name when I spoke to her.

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But without the name, how would she know whom you were addressing?

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    L.V
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've worked work several international teams, and it depends a lot on countries, people.... I've seen British people thinking being direct is rude, and Scandinavians thinking beating around the bush and not be direct is rude as it wastes their time.

    Winnie the Moo
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tough s**t if they come to visit Holland then…

    Diolla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or any of the other provinces in the Netherlands..... try the North if you don't like beating around the bush :-D

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    Vishy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my job if I'm not direct we are fined for oversight. Emotions really don't matter. No sugarcoating.

    chops jones
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg I was just informed that our bluntness (we r over 55) isn't always appreciated & seems like aggressive behavior. When a chick 22)verbally attacks me what did she think was going to happen? I'm going to tell u like it is & if it "hurts" her feeling oh well.. Borrow a spine?

    Lori
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've found this with any age group. It's typically people who don't have much emotional regulation. I'm a millennial (34) and my dad is a boomer (67). I cannot be direct with him or else he will go into a meltdown screaming I am busting his balls. I regularly talk to gen x on the phone (bank call center worker) because they have this weird aversion to the internet. And if I'm direct with them, they just don't understand anything.

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my experience as one of the last of the Boomer generation (born in 1961), your father's behavior is not typical.

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    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No offense but it does get exhausting.

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    To learn more about what it's like to work with the younger generations, we reached out to Tom Brunskill, CEO and co-founder of Forage, an online platform that allows students to participate in job simulations and become up to 2.6 times more employable. Tom was kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and share some of the generational gaps that might appear when younger individuals works with older colleagues.

    "When Gen Xers, millennials, and Gen Zers are working together, you might see differences in work habits like working hours, communication styles, attitudes about work, and work environment preferences," Tom says.

    "Gen Z tends to be the most non-traditional when it comes to different work habits: this generation is more likely to want to communicate via messaging platforms like Slack versus phone calls; they're more likely to opt to use tech to make their work-life more efficient; they tend to want to set strong boundaries between work and life; they often see work as part of their life and something to balance with personal priorities," he explained.

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    #4

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I had a millennial look me in the eye and say, "You're not my dad!" I laughed so hard I almost vomited. The worst thing a kid said to me was, "I did the best I can!". I told him that if that's the best you can do then you have to leave.

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    neytjie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your best is not always good enough. People need to stop saying that it is.

    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try'" - Homer Simpson.

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    iseefractals
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mindset of "you can do anything you want in life, so long as you work hard and try your best" is among the greatest failures of parents and teachers over the past several generations of children. Sometimes, "your best" sucks. Sometimes, the problem is YOU, and that...is ok. Everything is not for everyone. That you suck at _____ doesn't mean you won't kick a$$ at something else....but you won't have the opportunity to find what you can kick a$$ at if you keep pretending that your inadequacies are something that everyone else has to simply accept. Everyone needs to get a lot more comfortable with accepting when the problem is themselves.

    Giancarlo Ver
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a "greatest failure" only when the adult continues to perpetuate that notion after it becomes evident where the individual's shortcomings and attributes have been determined. When you're child is young or at an age looking for direction, you say this to inspire and motivate them, to seek things out, try different things.

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    Upstaged75
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an 8 year old kid I was babysitting say "you're not my mom!" to me. :) I can't imagine those words actually coming out of a grown adult's mouth. I would have laughed too. The kid got sent to his room. Sounds like that millennial needs a time out.

    Flora Porter
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want one of the high-paying careers, doing your best isn't material. You either get the right result or get out of the way.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You have no idea what your Best is !! " I've had to tell very bright kids

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe too many people say "I did my best" when what really happened was they made a half-hearted attempt, it didn't go perfectly, and they give up. This is not restricted to any single generation, by the way.

    Jay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel we're missing some context here. If not, those are just some man children

    The Starsong Princess
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Years ago, I had a young employee say “you are not the boss of me.” I replied that yes, I am literally the boss of you and if you have an issue with that, you will not be able to continue in this role and company.

    jmdirks
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We now live in a society where kids/adults are given participation trophies where they didn't even have to make the attempt to do their best. They basically just had to show up. That is why they think all they have to do is walk in the door and they should get paid for just standing there looking bewildered.

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    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials My favorite moment is when I mentioned that I had a certain song on 45 and then had to explain about 45s, LPs, etc. A group of millies gathered around me. All we needed was a campfire.

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    Reemerger
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I was there, Gandalf. I was there three thousand years ago. I was there the day music was first committed to matter."

    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was there when video killed the radio star. I was there when Top-40 radio was born.

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    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Millennials are in their 40s. The term refers to people who came of age around the millennium, not those who were born then. No one born around 1980 is unfamiliar with vinyl records.

    General Anaesthesia
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Millennials" refers to people born between 1981 and 1996, according to Britannica, so the youngest "millennials" are around 28 (and "came of age" around 2015, not 2000). Which only proves that naming "generations" is nonsensical. One year of births comes of age every year.

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    Sera
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Millennials are the hipsters that went back to buying vinyls; they know how they work.

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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a millennial and I know what these are Lol

    Joseph latimer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I'm sorry but this is in fact a lie we grew up with 8 track tapes. The idea MILLENIALS don't know what a 45 is, is downright BS

    James016
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dust off the wax cylinders. Now gather round kids because this is wild....

    Thomas Hunt, Jr.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or explaining how we had to connect to other computers back in 81 and 82....you know, before an actual 300 baud modem could be found at radio shack. -- hearing people talk of how they played an old MMORPG and I just mention LoD - Lands of Devastation. An ASCII dungeon crawler/RPG found on bulletin boards in the early 80s. Seriously, ASCII art was awesome back in the day.

    DRMAGDN
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Records are just big black CDs

    Synsepalum
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of the Gen Y & Z kids I know own record player and vinyl. Records have been outselling CDs lately.

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    #6

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials The topic of Y2K bug came up. My team wasn’t even born. 

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    DRMAGDN
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Turns out Y2K is why all the McDonalds icecream machines don't work

    Id row
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My 27 y/o nephew has a four year degree in CS. I told him that when I was a programmer, I modified hundreds of program for Y2K Armageddon and he had never even heard of it. I couldn't believe it.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Join the club. I have a degree in part of Biology that new grads have never heard of...

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    Reemerger
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, computers and people were around before you were born.

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ouch I feel old. Making sure our customers' business computers were ready for Y2K was sort of late in my career.

    Cat Dragon
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone wanna tell me what that was?

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Y2K = Year 2000 (computer issue). You can google but short answer is really old computer systems used a 2 digit year code instead of 4 digits. An old computer would see a date of 01-01-2000 as 01-01-1900. thus it could screw up databases using dates. The problem was overblown by the news because most important systems were updated to fix this long before the end of 1999.

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    Steve
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could it be your team was the result of Y2K? Gotta do something while the world is ending.

    Adrian
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only thing still working then will be a Nokia 3310...

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    Mickal Sylvara
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember that night. My babysitter(I was 11 but she was mostly there for my younger brothers) freaked out just before midnight and put us in a closet because she was afraid of power surges. I just made my brother think it was a weird new game. Thank Goodness that excuse worked...... She was 17.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, geezer competition eh? Try this one; my father - became a civil engineer- because as a kid he got to watch US Route 20 highway - being constructed for the first time. Roadbed made, then macadamed. Did you kiddies know that there was a time- those highways - didn't exist at all? I wasn't born yet; but my father saw it.

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    "Gen X is not as traditional as their 'Boomer' counterparts, but much of their work life revolved around workplace norms like long hours and work-over-life balance, especially with Boomers as their bosses," Tom continued. "This generation tends to be very independent and values flexibility and autonomy versus hand-holding."

    Millennials, on the other hand, are somewhere in the middle of the two, Tom says. "They dealt with the backlash of being called 'lazy' and 'entitled' when they joined the workforce — similar to the stereotypes Gen Z faces now — and many have felt like they needed to make up for it with their work ethic. Millennials tend to look for stability when it comes to the workplace."

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    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I'm a college prof, and I'm going to go past my 30 year normal retirement goal because these kids are so fricking amazing to hang out with in the classroom. I've been through the millennials and they were OK, but this younger generation is wonderful. GenX has done a fantastic job parenting them. Chef's kiss!

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    Charles McChristy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Working in higher ed, I have to completely disagree. These kids are helpless without their phones, they are obese, they don't know how to answer a phone or leave a voicemail, they can't remember their SS number or even their school ID, they constantly deflect and never accept that they are responsible for their actions... I could go on all day long.

    Kristine Johnson
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Recently took some graduate level courses in my mid 30s, I’m a millennial. I am sure all generations have issues with the previous, but my genZ group mates were awful to work with. Drastically over estimate their own abilities, completely unreceptive to feedback, horrible work products, can work their phones but serious lacking computer skills, went to the professor on things they should have been addressing with their group mates. I understand maturity takes time to foster, but this was ridiculous. We either had to do their part because it wasn’t done or their section was in stark contrast to the rest of the group because they refused to work with the group on a cohesive presentation.

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    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well that's a surprise. I don't think I've ever heard a professor who isn't positive that kids are more poorly prepared for college than any group they've ever seen. And that doesn't just go back to when I was a kid; that goes back to Cicero and Plato.

    Id row
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, gen-x has not done a fantastic job, lol. We gave birth to the trophy, entitlement and feelings generation. I'm so glad I chose to be child-free. None of my peer friends have successful kid stories.

    Populus tremuloides(they/them)
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Each generation will be and has been overly emotional when they're young because humans under 25 have physical and chemical differences in their brains that cause emotions to come before reason. That being said, treating people with compassion is a good quality no matter how much you make fun of us for it. Entitlement is present in all generations and ages, ask anyone who works in retail and customer service.

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    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First time I've read some positivity from a professor/teacher lol. We were all little shits in school, doesn't matter the generation lol

    Happy Jack
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I taught college freshman. I too miss the classroom interactions. They are grand!

    majandess
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love my GenZ son's cohort of kids. They're so awesome.

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    Gesika Cline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who bets this is totally fake, made by a bitter Gen X'er lol

    David
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Post reads like those fake reviews on Amazon for some Chinese product from a company you have never heard of.

    James King
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sarcasm is strong in this one.

    jmdirks
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So you're the one that doesn't actually teach them anything about real life.

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    #8

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials My boss is an elder millennial and loves having me on his team because he can point me in a direction and I just go do the thing that needs doing while everyone else needs some level of hand holding and babysitting. They keep trying to put me into management but I have zero desire. I'm totally cool with where I am and with what I do. The big joke is that since I'm Gen X, I'm happy working a job where I'm ignored - just as long as they don't ignore me when it comes to my pay. I've been with my company 23 years and that longevity blows a lot of younger folks' minds. It also blows their minds that I'm NOT in management and don't want to be - because that's what they've been told they're supposed to do in order to be successful in life, otherwise they're failing. I love watching that little part of their brain light up when I tell them it's perfectly ok to be comfortable where you're at and not have to climb corporate ladder if they don't want to. No one will care what your work title was when you're dead.

    PrincessBuzzkill , Proxyclick Visitor Management System Report

    DRMAGDN
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How much did he leave?" was asked about Steve Jobs who had died. "All of it." was the answer.

    Bill Hankel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! Was a manager when I was young, but just pay me and leave me be now (62 yo)

    Skp2MyLou
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of people in our age group feel the same way. I'm done with the rat race and being upwardly mobile. Just let me coast these last few years to retirement, with my head down, and my hands on the keyboard. I don't need or want the stress or headache any longer of being a manager or leader.

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    James Doe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luckily many companies with modern leadership acknowledge that there should be parallel career paths : the disciplinary and the professional career paths. Very common in software organizations. I implemented it officially in a hardware organization.

    Ambry Petersen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ironically I think that's the biggest difference between generations x and z. Gen z was raised with social media and constant validation. Gen x in many cases is happy to be ignored and left alone. The younger generation who documents everything online and the older generation who prefer to mind thier own buisness and have others stay out of our business. It's an interesting paradox when you step back to observe it.

    Barong
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s perfectly to stay at a level and with responsibilities you are competent and comfortable with. When I read this I thought of ”The Peter Principle”.for those of you that don’t know, “ The Peter Principle is an observation that the tendency in most organizational hierarchies, such as that of a corporation, is for every employee to rise in the hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence.” -Laurence J. Peter”

    Rosemary
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The corollary is the Peter Pan principle, which states that employees rise to the level of their immaturity.

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    nottheactualphoto
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. Management is a skill unto itself. If I'm a good engineer, it doesn't follow that I would be good at managing engineers.

    Dave Platt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen quite a few decent engineers turn themselves into poor managers, as they lacked either the personality or skills needed to manage effectively (or both). Making the transition from being a cat, to being a cat-herder isn't easy. I put my foot on that path a couple of times (hesitantly), realized quickly that it truly wasn't for me, and decided it was in everybody's best interest that I go back to being a senior engineer. As "Dirty Harry" Callahan said, "A man's got to know his limitations."

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    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    An elderly millinnial is only 43 and OP has worked there for 23 years, so i OP older than the boss?

    Angela Darling
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    salaried positions are not always better!!

    Nykky
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sure no one will care about your job title, but often your job title determines how far you make it anymore

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    #9

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials “25?! I have socks older than you!” This is an acceptable response to the kids.

    winelover08816 , Lum3n Report

    Phil Hoyt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a pair of snakeskin cowboy boots that I mentioned to my son were over 50 years old. He and his gf thought that I needed a new pair because they were so old. Not knowing that they are actually just broken in, lol.

    Id row
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have socks and more that are older than that, lol.

    T'Mar of Vulcan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've worked at my current school longer than some of the new teachers have been alive!

    TheGoodBoi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    GoodBoi eats my socks, so they don't last long anyways -_-

    Steve
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That makes them snacks, not socks so it’s fine

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    SCP 4666
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my fridge I have BBQ and garlic sauces older than you

    Nizumi
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The socks would have to be older than 25 to have lasted that long in the first place. I have socks that are over 10 years old. I bought some more of the same brand recently and they were falling apart on the second wearing. :(

    FakeOptimist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a few pairs : hand-knitted by my late aunt. Only wear them in réal cold weather though, and I know how to darn them.

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    Howl's sleeping castle
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One guy hit on me on LinkedIn. I told him I have clothes older than his career

    Ralph Watkins
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By the time I retired from my military career, I realized that I had a pair of boots that were older than all but one other person in the company.

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    So, how do these generational differences manifest in the workplace? "Some are bigger than others, but even small habits like communication preferences may not seem like a big deal, but over time, appealing to only one group can make people feel alienated or even uncomfortable sharing ideas, information, and feedback," Tom shared.

    "A Gen Zer who loves async communication on Slack may get burnt out if they're forced to be on meetings all the time, while a Gen Xer might want to hop on more calls if most of their team's communication is on Teams," he explained. "While we shouldn't assume someone's habits based on their generation, being aware of different preferences can help make people feel more comfortable and excited about participating at work."

    #10

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I’m a 47 year old lawyer. Been practicing for 20 years. Solo attorney the entire time. I have two employees, both in their late 20’s. The difference between us is sometimes minimal and sometimes huge. My 20 years experience over them is a huge factor, but we’re ultimately into the same things, watch the same shows, and listen to the same music. The biggest difference is literally my 20 years of experience. I’ve been there and done that. They haven’t. Things I take for granted are new to them. Once I realized that it made me a better boss, teacher, and mentor.

    WembysGiantDong , Sora Shimazaki Report

    Realistic Optimist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree. I'm in IT, and we all tend to have similar personalities/humor in a lot of ways. Where the 'age gap' tends to be is experience. Not just in technical knowledge but corporate bs. I'm much more calm and detached than when I first started in my field, and a lot of that is not just 'knowing' but experiencing how little most employers care about their employees. I just get my work done, so I don't have to care about it anymore. Ironically, it made me a better employee.

    Šimon Špaček
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In IT it is normal to have young guys using cloud that do not know floppy discs (at least never used them) and never burned a CD and team leader that remembers learning punched cards in the school. That is what, five generations of technology (cards, floppy, CD/DVD, flash drive, cloud)? And a real reality check for me was when I said "I remember how we burned MP3s on CD for long drives" and my colleague told me that he never burned CD, because he used flash drive. He was two years and also a whole generation younger than me.

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    nottheactualphoto
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not IT per se, but a somewhat-related field. One of the weird things about gaining some experience was the realization that hey, I've seen this unusual problem before, and here's how I fixed it. Also realizing that I know a whole lot of people in the industry.

    Dave Platt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup. Back in college (early 1970s) I worked in the computer center, running people's jobs through the card reader to the mainframe, and returning them with the resulting printouts. I also acted as a consultant. Students would bring me their printout, say that the program wasn't working and that they're been trying to fix it for days and it still wasn't working. I'd look at briefly, circle the error, and explain why it was wrong and how to correct it. "How did you see that so quickly?" "Well, I've made that same mistake myself a couple of times..." Experience is the best teacher... and "experience is directly proportional to equipment destroyed." The smell of magic blue smoke leaking out of a circuit must stimulate the memory centers of the brain somehow!

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    DC
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But, that's not a specific of this generation, or generations at all to begin with. I taught my Grandpa how to not die on a motorcycle ... well, I taught him and he died elsewhere, I could consider this a success, but seen him drive, so ... basically, he didn't listen due to having so much experience and nearly killed himself three times on a 30 minute ride with my Dad and me, and didn't even get why what he did was dangerous and stupid. He overtook a car with oncoming traffic, both had to engage their brakes seriously, so had we ... he almost left a curve because he didn't dare, at first, to lean in a few degrees more, some 20 degrees from tires' limits still, but "had that handled, due to experience". This was a few cm. And then, there was the railroad crossing, with lights only, and a somewhat twisted sense of the term "room to spare". Anyway, whoever did whatever longer is full of experience, compared to those just starting.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    there were lots of jokes about people learning to drive a car- after a horse. "I keep forgetting this dang thing can't SEE where it's going!

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    Yayheterogeneity
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes!! Grasping the concept of how to teach!

    AndyR
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the challenges I find working with zoomers is they genuinely believe they're the first person to do/go through something. This ends up with them rejecting advice because they think we just don't get it.

    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a coworker that's 10 years younger than me, and as we are tutoring the kids we work with (not our jobs, but that's a whole other can of worms), I have to teach her the same stuff every once in a while. She's not stupid, she gets it quick, but she had a terrible high school growing up, the worst in the state, and probably one of the worst in the country. I chuckle a little very often, but it's not maliciousness, it's just...cute? In a way? To see such naïvety.

    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did I mention my 20 years of experience?

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so how many years experience you got there?

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    #11

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials Management isn't anything like it was in the '80s, when we were young and wouldn't have dreamed of expecting the kind of fairness demanded now. I'm not ripping on gens Y and Z. Just saying it would have been nice to be able to expect respect when we were baby workers. We didn't get it.

    heavy_wood , Sora Shimazaki Report

    Realistic Optimist
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Things were more fair in other ways though. Inflation alone is about 300% from 1980 to today. Wages have not gone up 3x, so we get less for the same. Everyone does. That's why people put up with less bs now. If a company is going to wring as much money out of me as possible and progressively pay me less (inflation), I'm not going to put up with a sh*t boss too. Some may be among the blessed who actually get raises and adjustments, but it's a minority, in my experience at least.

    Libstak
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have to disagree, my experience in the 80s was alot easier than I Imagined being in the workforce would be. OK so I was 5ft nothing and sounded like a female chipmunk, probably a bit hard to attack me, kind of like kicking a puppy, but my friends didn't really have much in the way of complaints either, not like these days with the below poverty wages and being treated as though you don't matter as a human with bills and the need to eat and shelter yourself.

    Charles McChristy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were taught to give respect as a part of earning respect. These kids think it should be automatically applied to them without earning it.

    Sally Miller
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Respect goes both ways. Those new to a job must have a certain degree of respect for those who have something to teach them.

    DRMAGDN
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do remember unpaid internships

    Shetland Tony
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I suffered then you must too...break the cycle!

    Rebecca McManus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree, when I started working in the late 80s management was horrendous, bullying was common, belittling people who made a mistake was defacto, I suffered depression caused by a manager who was universally loathed because of his bullying but he never was pulled up for it. The one thing it taught me was that was not the way to get the best out of people.

    Gesika Cline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's odd when people demand accountability, DEI and respect. Sorry not sorry

    Blyss Blyssylb
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So how do we get the greenhorns (newbies) to grow thicker skin?

    Lola July
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a Woman, a Boomer and I was treated with respect. I earned and if I didn't receive it I left. My Mother did not have the opportunities I had, she had to train men, get passed over for promotions to her lessors.Why? They were men. She was far more qualified and it was a government job in the 60's. Now respect is being able to have someone fired for not calling them a girl when they are a man, forcing people to pretend there are 80+ genders... I have heard of Colleges passing unqualified people of Color and various genders in medical schools. Why? Fear of being SUED. So there you go Gen Z's and Y's Us Boomers will be gone and you all will be stuck with a lot of our mess and the new ones you have created.

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    #12

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials We have a few GenZs and we drop random pop culture facts like Will Smith used to be a rapper and Mark Wahlberg used to be Marky Mark. It blows their young minds. And when one of them started she would talk about her mom a lot then one day said, "I can't believe my mom is almost 50. That's so old". 😒 We told her maybe next time we'll invite her mom out instead of her for beer.

    frogeze , Afif Ramdhasuma Report

    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And 50 Cent used to be 35 Cent until the inflation caused by the 2008 recession.

    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 31 and don't even see 70 as old anymore. I see cranky, crotchety people as old, no matter the age, but the kind, silly people, no matter the amount of wrinkles they may have or veins I can see, are always so young to me.

    Jason
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Save icon is a floppy disk?

    M O'Connell
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luckily some of my people get hands-on training with floppy disks, it's the output medium of a piece of test gear (HP 86142A) we use for certification reports. The alternative is a thermal printer, but those reports fade away over time and aren't good for long-term records. A hundred or so reports fit on a floppy disk, which is then dumped to network storage.

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    donna schneider
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My daughter's brain melted over learning Arnold Schwarzenegger had been governor of California.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    how about that he'd been a cheesy muscle-model??

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    Say No to Downvoting
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, this Xennial just found out that Mark Wahlberg used to be Marky Mark. I still remember bopping to Good Vibrations on a compilation cassette next to Melissa Tkautz and early Salt N Pepa.

    Isa Wan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only Marky Mark but also a New Kid On The Block...

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    Mia
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's so old??😭Pooks my mom had me at 40

    Jessica Urquhart
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol! I had a friend who was a few years younger than me, back in my late twenties. This was around when Mark Wahlberg hæð made a name for himself as an actor. When I found out she was crazy about him, I couldn't hold back. I teased her relentlessly about him being marky mark! She had no idea!

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    Mark Wahlberg used to also be a violent, racist criminal.

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    When it comes to the pros of working with the younger generations, Tom says, "[They] get a lot of traction about their work preferences and attitudes because they're non-traditional, but for good reason — they're pushing the limits of what's possible at work."

    "Gen Z and millennials are open to new ways of doing things in the workplace, whether that's benefits like flexible work schedules or remote work, or tangible pressure on companies to do better and stick to their mission statements," he noted. "They're excited about the future and believe they can have a hand in making the workplace better for everyone."

    #13

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I have coworkers born in 1995 - the year I bought my current 1995 Jeep. They love riding around in it because it’s an “antique” to them - and so have to remind them that I was an adult when I bought it.

    supershinythings , DolGenSalesMan Report

    Sarah Schumm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve got a similar one, my lead gave me a ride in his 1974 Porsche, I was born in 75, now that was an antique!

    Blyss Blyssylb
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey! Who are you calling an antique 😂 Hopefully not me (1972) I'm 23 and holding for 29 yrs now

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    Gesika Cline
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well we know this is fake. No jeep lasts this long lmao

    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My father has a 67 Camaro. Wonder what they'd think of that

    #14

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I have a mix of all ages and I am very frustrated by the younger crowd. Here are some real examples of reasons people couldn’t work 1) I saw my ex this weekend and he was cancelling me. So I needed a mental health day. 2) I have the sniffles , it’s best I don’t come in and infect anyone. 3) my moms friend has Covid and I just want to make sure I don’t have it (not been in direct contact with the friend ) 4) I’m not a morning person, I try but I’m just always going to be 15-20 min late. I found one 26 year old crying under her desk after we had sat down to talk about ways she could improve her performance. Obviously I have had to deal with these horrible excuses and create the appropriate responses. Most of the time I try and really drill into people. It’s their PTO. I,don’t need to know why they are taking a day off. Just do it. Don’t over share. The person who is always late is a huge issue but her work is so amazing I have to balance it all.

    ChrisNYC70 , Polina Zimmerman Report

    Adam S
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Point 2 is fair, as long as they are able to WFH

    Kari Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if they’re not, they should stay at home. I can’t count the number of times I‘ve caught a cold because some idiots don’t understand they infect others.

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    Glasofruix
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why working while sick is such a flex for some people? You're being miserable and you risk infecting your coworkers, it's stupid at best irresponsible at worst. You can be miserable AND be at home if you're a masochist.

    doredde
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you so much for some common sense.

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    Realistic Optimist
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This just sounds so unempathetic. This person doesn't want to deal with people, they want machines who will do what they want. I totally feel the crying under the desk thing too. Sometimes it's the stress, not what's been said/done in particular. Also, if someone is crying, the last thing they need is someone to complain about them. Speaking from experience. Be kind. Life is already hard, don't make it harder for others.

    der sebbl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, I wouldn't want to deal with someone who needs a day of because their ex ignores them

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    Anya Beboop
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm guessing he went a bit Full Metal Jacket from the way he talks and that's why she was crying under her desk. 'Drilling into people' works for military school but not always other places. Needs a better sense of human connection.

    Phobrek
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This had me imagining OP forcing the employee to disassemble and reassemble their stapler ad nauseum. "AGAIN!!"

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    Jason
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pro tip. You can still show compassion to people regardless of your age. The person's work is amazing so f straight off then. I'm probably older than op who cares if the work is done well. I'd rather hire someone that can get s**t done right with some sick time and mental health time off rather than someone who punches the clock exactly on time every day of the year and produces garbage.

    Doctor Strange
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd agree, under the condition that their lateness does not affect other people. I work as a land surveyor. If my field crew is late, it means I can't get out to the job site and start doing my work until they arrive. Now our clients are upset because they are waiting on us, and I have to stay late to make up for them, or we might not be able to finish because we ran out of daylight. So in those cases, it is important to be on time because it doesn't just affect you.

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    Jay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Half of these are pretty fair though

    Sunny Day
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS!!! I was always conscious that "work needs to be done". If I am not there to do it, then I am affecting my coworkers who have their own work to deal with and now have to do mine as well. So if I call in sick, I am "SICK", not just "I don't feel like going to work today". I'm not going to f**k up someone else's day just so I can sleep in.

    FluffyDreg
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For me when im sick its a matter of "am i going to get other people sick and ruin their day like that?" Often times I reach out and ask, putting it my supervisors court.

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    J C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have noticed that when I train students (and when they first start they are completely new to everything) and I give them "gentle correction" I sometimes feel like I'm walking on eggshells so they don't start crying. I truly do try to be empathetic about this but there is just so much to learn they need to just take the correction and move on or we would never get through everything. I now sometimes will sit them down and let them know that I'm going to correct them on lots and lots of things and not to take things personally if possible because if they aren't doing okay, I will let them know in no uncertain terms. But some are so fragile!

    J C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do give them lots of positive feedback though too and hope that offsets the "gentle corrections" and that seems to help.

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    Pheebs
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have always been a 5-10 min person with work, but I work my butt off for my job. I get so little sleep, it really is hard to be at a job early morning. Also, it’s hard to be motivated to be on time or early if your job is miserable, I like my current job, which is fairly flexible on arrival time as long as we’re there by 9. Most of is have a general time we start work, so we’re still consistent. Plus, we’re treated like adults, and given respect.

    Brandon Parisien
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're sick stay home.. I don't want whatever you have. I don't care if it's a cold or covid.

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    #15

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I'm incredibly fortunate to work with people mostly in their 30's. So they're young but experienced in life. They have kids and mortgages so they understand priorities. They're good people doing their best. Couldn't ask for a better team.

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    The Original Bruno
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not Gen-Z. Did BP change headlines again?

    Šimon Špaček
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would be millennials. Still, it is very welcome to hear something nice about millennials.

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    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have neither, but I understand. My monkey brain immediately reacts to my friends not wanting to hang out or spend a tiny bit of money to do so, but then my rational, adult brain goes "they have pets with special needs, house rent, their own needs, air conditioning, car insurance, medical insurance, etc. Stfu you stupid monkey"

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    Mid 30s....we should not be this experienced in life.

    Taibhse Sealgair
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    60 years ago if you were in your mid 30s you survived a World War. So what's your issue?

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    But Tom points out that the new ideas younger generations bring to the table can sometimes cause friction because they're challenging what a lot of us think about work. "Older generations may understand more of the complications and challenges of changing the norms of the workplace, and know that progress might not come immediately," the expert explained. "Working with younger generations can be a tricky balance of trying to understand where they're coming from while still enforcing some of the rules of the workplace."

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    #16

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials Other comments that are disfavored are “Were you in shape when you were young?” Said to me, a 33 year old attorney, by a useless 22 year old twit.

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    Rayne OfSalt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    33? Unless that happened 11 years ago, that attorney is not Gen-X. The youngest members of Gen-X today are 44.

    Flopsy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A 22 year old was amazed that I had the flexibility to put my leg up when I sit ‘at my age’. I was just about to turn 30!

    Lem Johnson
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A Millennial attorney then, if he's 33

    Ambry Petersen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Proper response would be "Nobody cares". (Employee: Were you in shape when you were young? Boss: Nobody cares)

    rn42
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oow, did the wittwe twit huwt youw attowney feewings?

    CanadianDimes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There was a post the other day with a couple of people powerlifting in a gym in the mountains - I think these are the same people and the same gym.

    Diolla
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. Definitely the same mountains as well.

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    Dolevaal
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That isnt Gen-Z related, this is just rude.

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    #17

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I have a newish 30-something on my team and he has asked about my experience, and not in an a*s kissing way. It’s such a shame that people today don’t receive the training we did. I feel it is my responsibility to pass on what I know. He has stated many times that he appreciates the extra time I spend with him to get him up to speed. I think he is sincere, and I have to admit it feels good to be appreciated.

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    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i dont train people anymore, but when I did, I wasn't only showing you what you had to do, but explained why and what it affected. I would go over the history of the company, and explain every little detail of what we had to do. even if it was such a small thing that happened once in the 10 years i had been training, i still mention it.... the big problem with the new generation of workers is they do not take notes. like nothing. they expect there to be a document made for them.

    Dave Platt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the biggest shocks I had, in working with a team considering of younger programmers, is that they never willing to write anything down... even the results of long, complicated design discussions. It was all kept "in their heads". It made life difficult for all the new people coming on-board, as there was little documentation they could learn from. It also made project planning quite difficult, because the dependencies weren't formally documented.

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    Ralph Watkins
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Too many people are coming out of high school without the education they need to survive. Many cannot read or learn to pronounce unfamiliar words. Too many can't even figure out how many pennies, nickels, dimes, & quarters make a dollar by doing the math in their heads. My wife was learning disabled in math back in school. My millennial daughter is a math whiz. She set up a test for the three of us. She would use common core math. My wife would do the same math problem any which way she wanted. I used "old" math. I was the fastest as a boomer. My wife was the next fastest even given her math disability. She's Gen-X. Our daughter was the slowest with common core. In the world job market, think about who will get the job. The American educated kid or the foreign educated kid?

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a bookkeeper & organizational consultant my main focus was small businesses/start ups that needed a little guidance. I would set up an accounting system, filing system, inventory etc. and teach them basic operating fundamentals: taxes, payroll, health benefits AND I wrote a User Manual for my position - dumbed down as much as I could without being condescending. I stayed at most companies anywhere from 2-5 years. I really enjoyed walking people through the process and seeing the light bulb go on.

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    #18

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials To be honest...it's exhausting watching them take on more work than they can handle, hoard the work until the last minute, and then ask for last-minute help. I get the unfinished work and wonder what they've been doing all this time besides bemoaning how much work they had. Rinse and repeat. As a mgr, I actually try to help them with time mgmt and pacing but other mgrs just let them fall on their faces and help them pick up the pieces like a helicopter parent to the detriment of the entire team. Oh and their refusal to use track changes drives me nuts. So arrogant to unilaterally rewrite others' work, particularly analysts with decades of experience. Their overconfidence is kinda scary...their way is the only way until it blows up in their faces. They could talk less and actively listen more. And write s**t down. Or voice note it. Anything to help with retention. One more rant...do not ever send a text to my personal cell while I am on vacation with my kid. Nothing our organization does requires that kind of urgency. It can wait a few days, believe me. I would have rather quit than bug my mgr while on personal time. The audacity. It's been kinda rough at work lately...thanks for reading my novel rant. 😆.

    ArtisticBrilliant491 , Burst Report

    Lady B
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had an employee call me at 4 am to tell me that their electricity was out. We have an automated system to report down time and NO ONE works at that hour. Did I sorta go off? Yes! There are boundaries that No one should gave to set like- don’t call your manager at 4 am

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Texting at inappropriate times isn't restricted to any single generation. I had a colleague in his 50's send me a text in the wee hours of the morning a few years ago (before I learned to silence my phone at night). We had a (not very) friendly discussion about it at work the next day and he didn't do it again.

    Ervin Conn
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I text at all hours. You don't have to check your texts at 4am. It will be waiting for you when you do check. This works well for people that drive a lot. I treat it like an answering machine. All of my cow-orkers do the same. If I need an immediate response I would call. If I am driving (or they are driving) the car has hands free.

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    Beachbum
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is one of the reason that I do not have work email n my phone. I get asked al lthe time, if I want it no, I don't are you going to pay a poriton of my cell phone bill? Leave that up to the people above me.... I am sorry mister attorney, you need that brief filed today? You shuld have gotten to me before 5, so that it can be filed. better send that to your paralegal and not your legal assistant, and I am a Gen X

    JP Purves
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most younger people today text everything constantly because, unlike a voice phone call, it's not considered important.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with the "we're not curing cancer here, Bob" mentality. There is VERY little in the workplace that constitutes a true emergency. But by the same token I always let everyone know I would be unavailable and DO NOT CALL ME, so & so is in charge in my place and then just ignore any calls or texts that came in. It only happened a few times thoughout my career, but I let the people who contacted me despite this caveat that this was ABSOLUTELY NOT F*CKING ALLOWED. It never happened twice.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    from reading this your definition of helping them with time management is to shorten 1 word specifially? mgmt and mgr? what are you 16?

    Cathy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh this does sound like generation x indeed 😁

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    Don't give out your personal cell phone number to staff then.

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    Tom also shared some advice for older generations who are now working with much younger employees. "Meet younger generations where they are instead of assuming what might motivate them. This means getting curious about why your younger employees have taken this role, decided to pursue this career path, and even joined your company," he told Bored Panda.

    "Ask them questions about their work preferences, skills they want to build, and goals. Be a listening ear before providing any suggestions. You might not get the answers you expect, and that's OK — even good. You won't be able to motivate your younger employees until you know what motivates them," Tom noted.

    #19

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials Generally the millennials and Z's I've worked with have been fine. The only thing that annoys me a bit is when they complain or poke fun at each other about being "old" or make condescending comments about anyone over 30 being "old." Anyone pushing 50 is "really old." I get it, but it's a rude thing to go on about within earshot of other older coworkers, unless you've established some kind of rapport and know that everyone can take a joke. Generally I just roll my eyes but in 20 years they'll be screaming bloody murder when the Alphas arrive and make the same remarks.

    LittleMoonBoot , Jessica Da Rosa Report

    PFD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not a Gen Z thing, though - just a young people thing. Jack Weinberg's dictum to "Never trust anyone over 30" is 60 years old this year.

    Mrs.C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in high school when the Never trust anyone over 30 generation turned 30. It was a big deal.

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    Jason
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I said I was old in my late twenties and still say that I'm old in my 40s who cares. At my 21st birthday a random guy stopped by my party who was 30. I said he was too old to be there. Now 30s seems young. Time is relative.

    MoFun
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is age discrimination. Saw those exact examples in my company's mandatory training "Preventing Workplace Harassment". My company is huge & world wide and they only publish stuff that stands up in court.

    Rodney McKay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 70 now, and have painful memories of how clueless I was when I was under 30. Fortunately, a lot of the other people who remember are dying off.

    Kalon Suszko
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 61 YO long hair, still listen to heavy metal music, etc. When I get the...you are old dude! I respond, I have to show you my graduation yearbook! I have Jesus to my left and Moses to my right! OR, yea I was around before fire was invented! :P BUT, I can still keep up with you thats 35-40 years younger then me! That usually stops the old jokes. (BTW load trucks for UPS) physical labor. Usually gains respect from the younger ones afterwards offering to help out the "old man"

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I tell them I went to college in the Ordovician - they never have ANY idea what or when that is... which is quite satisfactory. :-)

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    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My coworker and I work with a couple of gen alphas, with her being gen z and me being millennial, and her client is starting to make actually overtly rude comments about her now, to the point the client's sibling's tech and I need to butt in now and tell them how rude he's being. Even their other sibling, their twin, called them rude the other day for their comment. I have a feeling it's gonna get worse here for a bit before it gets better.

    Phil Hoyt
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a moderator on a baseball site and when I talk about watching Ted Williams then Carl Yastrzemski play, they say, "Wait, what? How OLD are you"?

    kath morgan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What drives me crazy are the YouTubers and influencers who encourage this by referring to their 20-35 year old selves as “such an old lady”. I had to stop listening to one who was younger than me and did this constantly. What is the point of it except to hurt the self esteem of yourself and others?

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they're trying to claim "elder" status - with no right to. True elders do still have status - but the kiddies don't meet any, and don't know what to think.

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    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think OP gets irritated and offended too easily.

    Flora Porter
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's always been that way, but they'd the first to complain about discrimination if older colleagues comment on their age.

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    #20

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials Constant praise. It’s exhausting.

    najing_ftw , fauxels Report

    sturmwesen
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just this morning I realized how often I tell my dog he is doing great. Then I wondered if it would be better or worse praising the trainees every few minutes.

    Surenu
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have you tried giving your trainees treats when they do things right?

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    Joseph latimer
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not praise. Appreciation. Big difference.

    iseefractals
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Appreciation isn't constant.....and it's not something that should be heaped on in the process of YOU doing the job for which you are paid. You're not doing them a favor.

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    Brandon Parisien
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doesn't have to be constant, just more than once a year...

    Reemerger
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Praise makes me uncomfortable, by virtue of being singled out, even if I earned it.

    J C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I especially get uncomfortable with public praise. I don't need to be singled out in front of everyone, just a private well done is my preference, but some people feel the opposite.

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    Angela Darling
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ..when they expect kudos for what is EXPECTED of them!! like a 'graduation' for 3rd grade!

    Petra Schaap
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im gen X. I do this. I wish someone had giving me compliments at work when i was younger.

    Celtic Pirate Queen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that's worded improperly, it's not the constant praise it's their EXPECTATION of constant praise. I'm your boss, not your Mom. If you want to be validated 24/7 get a f*cking dog. That's not to say a good worker should not be encouraged and acknowledged, but this is a business not preschool.

    Danish Susanne
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the kindergarten class where I volunteer we are most careful not to praise children unless they have en fact done something that deserves it. Not for doing their work, but for doing better!

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    PazDores
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like it when my bosses do the constant praising. It feels patronizing. Maybe because my mom used to use praise in place of physical touch or something. But I've asked my bosses to only praise me when they mean it, because it also allows me more time to finish a great quantity of work than having to listen to their praise.

    kath morgan
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Positive feedback is important too and acknowledging when employees are doing well makes them feel valued. Perhaps the change in management style is just as well.

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    #21

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials Remember that some Millenials and Zoomers will think that you're mad at them if you use periods at the end of sentences in emails.

    Caloso89 , Krsto Jevtic Report

    Ripley
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If their resume claims that they have "excellent written communication skills" and then pulled this I reckon I'd be asking for my money back (so to speak).

    Thomas Hunt, Jr.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't care. Was taught proper grammar and punctuation. Was drilled into me. Best get in the habit of it if you ever have to handwrite a resume or answer a serious survey....hell, write an actual letter to someone. Writing without proper punctuation is disrespectful and is a form of illiteracy in my opinion. Thanks to the teachers for taking the time to drill that into us way back when!

    Craig Higgs
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God! I was born in the 80s. When I was at university, the discussion boards for the course where so filled with slang, I couldn't understand them.

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    ALittleKnownGoddess
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I will use periods at the end of sentences in emails (but probably not in text messages) and this is the hill I am willing to die on.

    J C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I even use periods in text messages. I just can't leave it hanging!

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    Charles McChristy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So... this is the reason they write in one, giant run-on sentence? That makes sense. I receive emails from students like this all the time, and I have to constantly write them back to re-explain what they did previously. It gets to the point that I ignore them if they can't even form a basic and it is filled with slang and curse words.

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have ignored job applications filled with text-speak and poor punctuation (and yes, being able to write well was part of the job).

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    cogadh
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They've changed the meaning of basic punctuation? And a thumbs up is hostile? I would love for this generation to work at my job. It's a 100% remote job and Teams is our primary method of communication. Using actual grammar and punctuation correctly is essential. The thumbs up is the way we show acknowledgement of any post. Periods and thumbs everywhere, it would drive them insane.

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    Damned_Cat
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I once made a young employee cry because I typed a very important piece of information in red and underlined it. She thought it meant she was in trouble. It was a department-wide email stressing the deadline to make benefit changes and I didn't want anyone to miss out.

    madbakes
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm going to say this is Gen Z, or the tail end of Millenials. I'm a Millenials and this came into play when I was already an adult.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are similar problems in spoken language. Had one tell me, in sort of huff, that she wasn't used to that kind to talk. Whereupon I esplained to her: "So- you come here, to join the operation I created - and - you want me to learn YOUR language preferences so you can fit in properly? Not a chance. You're joining here- which means you learn the language here. We do not adapt to you. End. Astonishment.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    its so frustrating. every email has to end with a :) in order to make the person on the other end not be offended, or make them think you're not mad at them. I am not mad, I am simply giving you info. I am not :) about it, and you shouldn't be :) about it either.

    Kylie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm way beyond Gen Z or whatever and I always have to try to remember to use periods in emails and posts.

    Jason
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry for the down votes you are getting. Language changes over the generations. One thing I learned when I was younger was people tend to listen or treat you with better authority, even if you are young, if you write a bit more "formally". I still write more proper in work settings though have my own lazy writing with friends. I also tend to have an initial negative bias if people can't bother to spend time to write full words and decent sentences for "official" communication. I try to ignore it but a lot of people won't.

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    #22

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials My boss is 20 years younger than me, and the youngest person on our team is 35 years younger than me. I have to say, I’m so glad I get to work with this younger generation before I leave the workforce. As an always LGBTQ ally, I still remember rolling my eyes at the cis/trans/pronouns conversation for a hot minute, then realizing I was being that kind of older person. Yuck. That thought pulled me right the f**k out of it, and now I’m one of the few people my age — even among liberal friends — who’s completely comfortable around nonbinary people and those with other nontraditional gender expressions. "I love being around people of different ages. It opens your eyes, challenges your preconceptions, and gives you a new way of looking at the world. This younger generation only does the work they’re paid to do while still doing it well. They take vacation and sick time and don’t work their asses off for hours they’re not being paid to work. And they actually taught me to do the same. "After a lifetime of going above and beyond — even in nonprofit work, which I love — it’s just plain dumb to work 50 or 60 hours when you’re being paid for 40. I’m now working a straight 40-hour week. F**king geniuses, these young'uns.

    emmany63 , Christina Morillo Report

    Cathy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes! Be the older person you wanted as a colleague when you were young 😊

    Zobi123
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Xennial here. I think Millennials really brought about this mindshift (not working yourself to death). I was resistant at first, but realized they had a point. Things have changed. Companies don't care about you. You have to care about yourself.

    James King
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "As an always LGBTQ ally..." you sound utterly insufferable.

    Rebecca McManus
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Still struggling with the pronouns thing, my Gen Z daughter has stopped telling me off so I assume that either she's given up or I'm getting better.

    Sarah Schumm
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think pronouns are awesome. It also helps with people who have androgynous or unusual names.

    Detroit Citizen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS!!!!: As a GenX I totally agree. "I love being around people of different ages. It opens your eyes, challenges your preconceptions, and gives you a new way of looking at the world. This younger generation only does the work they’re paid to do while still doing it well. They take vacation and sick time and don’t work their asses off for hours they’re not being paid to work. And they actually taught me to do the same. "After a lifetime of going above and beyond — even in nonprofit work, which I love — it’s just plain dumb to work 50 or 60 hours when you’re being paid for 40. I’m now working a straight 40-hour week. F*****g geniuses, these young'uns.

    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ok. you don't have to agree with the cis/trans thing. you can hate it. in fact you can despise it to the point that it makes you sick. but the right, and only thing (which is also the grown up thing) to do is just ignore it. anything anyone else does in there life have ZERO effect on your life. Don't waste your time, energy, and mental capacities on hating others. The fact it took kids to open your eyes about this makes me question whether or not it will stick.... the other point was "This younger generation only does the work they’re paid to do while still doing it well" completely disagree. they don't even do the work they are paid to do most of the time, and when they do it is not done well. if you are paid for 40 hours, then do 40 hours of work. anything over that the company better pay me to do it (which where i work, they do)... i put in 85 hours one week; got paid for all 85 hours.

    doredde
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I still prefer a live over loads of money. What´s the point in working too much? You don´t even have enough time to spend the money. Or you have to binge-vacate for 2 or 3 weeks to compensate for 49 weeks of forcing yourself to your next heart-attack. Despite that it´s more about quality than quantity. You can´t tell me, you are highly productive and concentrated 10 hours a day. What are you running away off at this speed, or whom do you have to prove you are a worthy human through the count of your waking hours just working? All in all we just wait for the end, why hurry? Sit quietly, relax, the grass grows on it´s own. As long as you don´t live on other peoples money...

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    #23

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I did before Covid, changed careers during the middle of, and it was terrible. Way too much coddling, hand holding, and walking on eggshells. I’m pretty blunt and direct, it did not sit well with them.

    notorious_tcb , Thirdman Report

    Kari Panda
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Meh. If you tell them, "How you did it was wrong, here‘s how you do it correctly." then that‘s direct. If you tell them, "You moron, that’s wrong! Don’t you have any brain inside that head of yours?!" then you‘re just a jerk. From my experience, many people who claim to be blunt simply are jerks.

    Bartlet for World Domination
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Gen Z coworker will straight out question my knowledge. "It's not wrong!". Well sorry, but yes, it is.

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    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a bunch of coworkers that are very much themselves around everyone (besides cursing and such, we work with kids), and my new coworker was very sensitive to how everyone acted around her. Not in an aggressively defensive kind of way, but a worrisome kind. I would tell her each time to just sit a moment on it, almost no one there is an a*****e, and she did what I said. She learned that, yes, they are just very outspoken lol

    Cathy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok but this post is about Gen-x bosses right? 🤔

    megasmacky
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something to remember when Gen X people complain about this is they started it. Gen X in the early 90's were the ones that turned being offended into an art form. I had Gen X friends who went to art school and were extremely liberal and progressive, call the lesbians who took it upon themselves to police the thoughts and words of everyone, the Lesbian Gestapo. So just remember that- Gen X invented and perfected the current style of performative outrage and anti-free speech political correctness. Don't believe their b******t kids, Gen X were worse.

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    #24

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I manage a number of teams, and my staff are literally from their late 60s to 21 years old. I am 58, but probably most aligned with 30-40 yo in terms of taste, music, etc. I've been at my company for 27 years. It is.....challenging at time....how to motivate each cohort. Among them: the oldest is completely offended and passive-aggressive about any feedback. Youngest ones need constant, effusive praise including for things like showing up to work on time, not being late back from a break, working without f*****g earbuds in, even while talking to people, etc. I have two that are fairly certainly somewhere on the autism spectrum, so you have to be very careful and specific so they can process interactions effectively. I have one transgender (not disclosed, but apparent), so gender-related things require care. I have a 28 yo male hispanic that is ruled by machismo (just don't "disrespect" him!). Again...challenging.

    Displaced_in_Space , Mario Gogh Report

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds exhausting.

    Zobi123
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's great that you are trying to accomodate all those different personalities and needs! Especially the people who may be on the spectrum. (Not sure about the machismo guy...) I hope that they reciprocate.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good managers have ALWAYS done this, since forever. Up to a point! of course- and bad managers have always existed.

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    Ralph Watkins
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was sitting in waiting room & started chatting with a guy there. He was the recruiter for a large company which was part of a much larger corporation. He was telling those of us stuck with him on how so many young people come into job interviews like you are wasting their time. They don't engage. They may come straight from the gym, still sweaty. They are taking phone calls or texts during the interview. Or they might still be wearing pajamas. Some he doesn't even let them sit down & rejects them immediately. Those who are motivated but may not meet all of the qualifications will be given a job. If not in that posted job, in some job more suited to them. Either in his company or the corporation. Those who miserably fail due to their serious character flaws are blacklisted. They will never get a job with his company or within the corporation.

    Connie George
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like a dreary Christmas with a dysfunctional family! You can choose to be with family or not. Work is work, leave your baggage at the door. Best to just walk in , do your job and have low expectations of others. Best way to not let it stress you out. Low expectations of other resources is what builds resiliency.

    Connie George
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds more like a dysfunctional family. You can choose to be around family or not. Work should be work, not a home away from home environment. Some people need to leave their baggage at the front door.

    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like my gang of misfits. Fun times when you all work with young children on the spectrum.

    #25

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I have 25 to 30 year olds on my team and I'm the HR Manager. I'm not sure how I feel about them because I honestly can't relate to much they're talking about. It is somewhat annoying when they assume anyone over a certain age can't use technology. I remember the first email and computers in offices. If you're our age and you've worked you know computers.

    TinktheChi , charlesdeluvio Report

    Jason
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly I find sometimes younger people can use phones and basic tech but anything more complicated and they can be lost. Not saying it was a positive but you had to build and program computers to use them when I was young, eventually using a modem to connect to bbs or early internet. Now phones have the most user friendly UI, always connected Internet, and very young children can even use them. It doesn't help teach the concepts underlying the technology.

    AndThenICommented
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. And I have to say that professional writing skills have seriously declined as well.

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    Marie Dahme
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does anyone remember the inter office memorandum? Used to work at a job very early 90s, I pushed the cart that distributed those !

    Pferdchen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bonus points if you can explain "CC: Chron."

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    Kylie
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They forget that some of us were here when it all started LOL

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    mostly they don't know that it "started"; the basic assumption is all of this has always been here

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    MushroomHead22
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    they can use a phone, a tablet, and a Mac, and they can do the basic tech things with these devices. but if the printer isn't printing, or your dual-monitors are not working, god forbid they actually try to figure it out. i swear a lot of these kids these days are useless.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In all fairness - I had to ask my cluless youngster - how to turn on the new monitor I was installing. I couldn't find ANY buttons - anywhere! What? He just reached over and hit the smooth black edge - and the damn thing turned on. Who the hell though invisible buttons was a good idea?? And now...

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    Charles McChristy
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's hysterical when they say that, because the only tech they can use it a smartphone. Put them in front of a computer and and you can smell the smoke coming from their ears.

    Gossameringue
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many Gen Z's need mad training in basic Microsoft Suite skills as well as how to write a professional email, how to work a copy machine (like, advanced functions), how to set up and manage a calendar or spreadsheet, and other practical tech applications.

    Thomas Hunt, Jr.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Personally, I'd looove to see young ones take a crack at BASIC. Poke 584,1 :-)

    Jay
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lmao okay this one's fair and kind of funny. We can be pretty dumb sometimes

    Rebecca McManus
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to tell people that my first email system was on a mainframe, they'd go "wow", now I have to explain what a mainframe was 🤦‍♀️

    James Anthony
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, as a 50 y/o in IT, I get annoyed with people my age and older for not being even vaguely tech-savvy. The amount of times people who are perfectly capable of using Google to learn how to add an email signature to Outlook (just as an example) is insane. A lot of older folks just straight up refuse to learn even the most basic of tech concepts, but they'll be quick to disparage the younger workers for "being on TikTok" all day (which I will concede is it's own issue). At least the kids know how to do basic troubleshooting on their devices.

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    #26

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials My teams are almost always kids 16 and up. They drive me nuts but they keep me young. They don't always get my references but I make sure they have a healthy understanding of sarcasm and dark humor. They f****n love it.

    Tacotek , Ali Alcántara Report

    Papa
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My children grew up learning sarcasm as a second language.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And then I introduced them to Monty Python- they learned to snark in 4 different limey dialects..

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    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sarcasm and dark humor make the world go round.

    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So you're the old Disney. Good.

    Blyss Blyssylb
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sarcasm is the 1st language my kids learned.

    #27

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I work with all Millennials and I can honestly say that they are a pleasure to work with! Kind, empathetic, and I get ~90% of their references without feeling old. I just grew up playing different video games and listening to different music. Maybe it’s just a matter of maturity - it doesn’t matter what generation you are, the ones that are 19 - 25 will never fail to mention how young they are, until they start feeling old themselves! 26 and up, they start getting much more humble and relatable.

    dotnetgirl , Canva Studio Report

    Fat Harry
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does no one here know what a Millennial is? People 19-25 are not millennial.

    just me
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think they were saying that people in that age range show common characteristics regardless of generation. 22 year olds behaving similarly in 1990, 2000, 2010, etc.

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    Lori
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think whoever originally started this thread needed to define the generations for people. 19-25 are not Millennials. We're in our 30s and 40s now lol

    Steve Hall
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Millennials are between 28 and 43 years old, just children in my eyes.

    Dirk Daring
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of you need to go back over the context in this one. OP isn't calling 19 - 25 Millennials. The Millennial coworkers are 26 and up.

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    #28

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials My favorite team I ever managed were nearly all millennials. I realized how lucky I was to have managed them when I ended up at a large company and temporarily managed a group with an average age of 50+ (this is in the mid 2000’s). I’m still friends with a couple of the millennials all these years later. We had a great team environment where we all helped each other and had a lot of fun in the process. Never felt that with the older group I managed later.

    1Mthrowaway , George Milton Report

    Nykky
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This person may have been younger. Too many older people tend to demand respect instead of commanding it. They just think it's deserved instead of earned, especially if the other person is younger. Not all of them, just...too many.

    #29

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials I had a moment of sheer depression when I mentioned I used to do Flash for the internet and my millennial employees had no idea what Flash was.

    noquarter1000 , Karolina Grabowska Report

    Michal Pifko
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This makes little sense. I'm a late millennial (1995) and Flash was very popular when I was a teenager. Some earlier millennials (born on the 80s) were often the ones who used and programmed Flash apps the most. The OP probably confused Millennials with Gen Zs.

    Tracy Butler
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think millennial has become the catch-all insult for anyone younger. Like, dude…we’re in our 40s, we’re getting annoyed by the youth too

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    Šimon Špaček
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Millennial not knowing Flash? That is really hard to believe. That would be like Gen-X not knowing Monty Python.

    staceybeaverhausen
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    millennials were born starting in 83.....were the ones working for you former Amish??

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These moments will come to you - all - one day. Mine, inverted- I studied German pretty seriously, and at German Dept. party one evening, I was in a 4 way conversation with 3 professors, who were reminiscing about some aspect of WWII - one turned to me to get my opinion on this topic- then slowly turned white.... "My god... you weren't born yet..." Silence- spread. :-) You can look forward to it! It's certain.

    Michelle C
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m a middle Millennial and we loved Flash…

    Brandon Parisien
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wrf is flash? Maybe I've forgotten? I'm 40...

    JinxBox
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    That's not age difference, some of us just have other passions than computers.

    Katarzyna Drozd
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's more about the fact that flash is a dead technology right now

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    #30

    “Found One 26 Y.O. Crying Under Her Desk”: 31 Stories About Working With Gen Z And Millennials All I work with is kids for the most part. I'm 47 and still active duty. For the most part it's really fun. Was talking to one of them today and realized they are a yr younger than my oldest child.... At least I know how they think since I have kids of that age.

    lostmyself2life , Diego González Report

    Satya Bain
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work in IT and have for almost 30 years. I currently work with kids the same age as some of my grandchildren. It makes things interesting.

    Ralph Watkins
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I retired as a VA nurse. Also retired military. Just before retirement I had a pretty young lady combat veteran come into my office. She had seen more combat than some grunts I know. She was 22, two years younger than my daughter at the time.

    The Abe
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YES THIS. I was doing my introductory interview with a group fresh out of training and realized that ALL of them were younger than my own children. I really am the old guy now lol.

    90HD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People like this are what keeps the military running! Becoming a Combat Engineer in the US Army has always been a dream of mine.

    Cosmikid
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    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go for it. My dad - Navy, CEC - Seabees in the Pacific. Why? "Too important to leave to the shitheads."

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    MushroomHead22
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    yeah but a young kid in the army does not have the same mentality as a young kid in an office. the military kid is being brainwashed into being a soldier, while the kids in the office is scared of words said with poor infliction.

    90HD
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You clearly have never served in the armed forces of any country, other than maybe the BTS army. You are not brainwashed into being a soldier, you are taught the physical and mental toughness required to perservere in tough environments and to do your job to the best of your abilities.

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    #31

    At 50, I'm at the very top tier of old farts in my workplace. We're mostly hiring genz now. They are almost universally respectful, but my line of work strongly preselects for respect of seniority and rank. I hope to be viewed as a mentor, father figure, or at least uncle figure. It seems like I am.

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    Bill Hankel
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I made it to the bottom of this list, and it was fascinating! As a 62 year old, I regularly visit this site to make sure I keep up with what younger people are thinking, all of the acronyms (have to Google sometimes, but learning a lot), etc. As with EVRY generation, it's mixed bag ... I see a lot of compassion and caring from the young people that warms my heart, but some extreme entitlement and nihilism that is discouraging. So glad I grew up without social media!

    Hashim Siraj
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m 15 and trends and acronyms are really hard to understand so I really don’t blame you. You are nice for tryna learn them though. I just don’t bother.

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