In a way, this post is basically the movie version of shower thoughts. Bear with me. After Twitter user @jazz_inmypants asked people to share bothering movie details that aren't common knowledge, his thread received quite a few interesting insights. For example, Grease (1978) might be described as a story that teaches you to change yourself until other people like you. And Belle's (Beuty and the Beast (1991)) neighbors are probably doing something shady if the village can support such an extensive bookstore when she's the only reader and doesn't even pay. The tweet by @jazz_inmypants has already received over 30K likes and 1K comments, many of which filmmaking students could definitely rework into term papers.

Image credits: jazz_inmypants

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Monty Is Fiennes
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1 year ago

OMG This is so mine.... and the fact that Charlie PREFERRED to take Grandpa Joe rather than his Mum whose life was a depressing painful prison.... It just made me want to smack that kid.

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Altogether, a film can seem incredibly complicated, but the reasoning behind every decision nearly always comes down to how it is working with the story and how it is affecting the viewer. With that in mind, the New York Film Academy has prepared some tips for reviewing a film and coming up with your own insights.

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Non-New-Toni-An
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1 year ago

Yes they do love English villains don't they!!?

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Watch it. "Once is necessary twice is preferable," the academy wrote. "Taking notes is also a good idea and will help the writing process by making it easy to refer to your in-the-moment thoughts and reactions."

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kanishka prasan Senevirathna
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1 year ago

Because he wanted to look deferent than his foster apes. He shave his beard with his deceased father's knife every day.

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Express your initial thoughts and support your criticism. "Professional reviewers do not shy away from telling their readers whether they thought the movie was good bad or indifferent, and in fact readers come to rely on those reviewers whose tastes reflect their own when deciding whether or not to spend their time and money. Professional reviewers also have watched a lot of movies and can express why and how they came to their criticism. Be sure to back up your thoughts with specifics–a disappointing performance, a ridiculous plot, beautiful cinematography, difficult material that leaves you thinking, and so on."

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Dani
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1 year ago (edited)

Well, Santa does seem to only give expensive presents to rich kids, doesn't he? XD

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Evaluate the acting. "Many casual filmgoers will be inspired to see a movie if a favorite actor is in it, so you should probably spend a little space talking about the performances: seasoned actor in a new kind of role, brilliant performance from a rising star, excellence despite a lackluster script, dynamics in an ensemble, and so much more can be said about the actors in any given film."

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glowworm2
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1 year ago

Give Harvey a break. He's been hospitalized, is missing half his face and is probably hopped up on sedatives. Of course he's going to have trouble recognizing that his nurse is the Joker.

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Directing, cinematography, special effects... This is where your inner film geek can really shine. Consider the highlights or missteps of directors, cinematographers, costume designers and CGI magicians. What worked, what surprised, what fell short of expectations, are all great questions to address.

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Monday
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1 year ago

At least that part is realistic...

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It's also important to look at a film’s story from a structural viewpoint. Try to to keep in mind that the vast majority of films fall into the three-act structure: a beginning, middle, and end. It's not because the screenwriters are lazy, but because the formula simply works. In screenplays, the first thing you should look out for is the inciting incident. Generally, about 10 minutes into the film, there will be a moment that forces the protagonist to exit their comfort zone and start their journey towards a new goal. Around the thirty-minute mark, there is usually a major turning point. At this moment, the hero can't go back, that signals the beginning of the second act where the majority of the film will take place. Finally, around the ninety-minute mark, the second turning point will signal the film’s drive towards both its conclusion and resolution.

Of course, some films don’t fit perfectly into the three-act structure, but the vast majority of films do and you can start to get a sense of when important moments or changes will occur when you know the general format.

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Vicky Zar
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1 year ago

Did you know that this movie is based on the German book "Das doppelte Lottchen" from Erich Kästner? The girls are Luise and Lotte from Vienna and Munich respectively. The book was written around 1945 so the story makes much more sense regarding the timeframe. Today its stupid of course but back then it wasn't that easy to keep in contact when miles apart.

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Arietis
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1 year ago

I really hated his character and Andy's friends. They sure jumped at the chance to get some goodies for free, but also constantly critizised her and made fun of her for her new job. What a bunch of shit friends. She should have severed ties with all of them.

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Sandy
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1 year ago

It's a library isn't it?

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Woets
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1 year ago

One or both parents are actually dead or die during the movie. Some serious daddy/mommy-issues there at Disney

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Wanda Queen
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1 year ago

Mind = blown

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Cyndi H
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1 year ago

This has always bothered me... Glad someone else picked it up.

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Jon Parker
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1 year ago

Don't forget there was a sequel.

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Carol Emory
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1 year ago

They also don't tell you that Hera drove Hercules insane so that he kills his wife Megara and his 5 children

Jean Jacket
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1 year ago

TwiceRice23 is a douche. You can tell me all the tid bits you know about Greek Mythology! It's fascinating!

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Alan Wilkening
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1 year ago (edited)

If the screenwriters had stayed true to the known manuscripts of Ancient Greek mythology, this could never have been a Disney production, nor would it have earned anything better than an R rating. Like it or not, Greek mythology generally is not for the little kiddies. So a highly sanitized, selective and revisionist retelling of the stories is the only path forward if you want to make and distribute a childrens’ cartoon about “Hercules.” But then again, Greek Mythology is called “mythology” because it’s all make-believe in the first place, so who cares if the stories change in the retelling?

Miss_Olivia
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1 year ago

In summary they used the names and made their own story

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Stille20
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1 year ago

Annoying? Sure, but most Disney fiilms are a wildly altered version of a traditional story. I think Mulan is actually the closest to the original.

A J
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1 year ago

I've always been bothered by US-movie adaptations of European literature and historical publications, like in this case a story drawn from Greek mythology. Either use it accurately or make up your own stories, just don't call it Hercules and then make a new, more "suitable" thing out of it. Same with Little Mermaid (a fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen) The Three Musketeers (a book by Alexandre Dumas) etc.etc.etc...

Random Panda
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1 year ago

I don't understand the argument that they changed so much of the story to make it kid-friendly. I was 7 when this came out and I didn't like it because I already knew the mythology and the movie had it ass-backwards. There are plenty of ways to tell the actual mythology to kids, without going into the nasty details. Americans coddle their kids too much.

Chelsea Bates
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1 year ago

They changed a lot of things in Disney movies. In the real story of Ariel she doesn't get the prince and slowly dies of sea foam. In Cinderella she kills her step mother and tortured her step sisters. So this doesn't surprise me that they would change the movie Hercules as well

The Dutches
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1 year ago

Or The Hunchback of the Notre Dame. That shouldn't end well. I love Disney movies, but I would prefer them to make up original stories instead of altering classics.

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Catlady6000
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1 year ago

IDK, why people are saying the original myths would be inappropriate. I read Bulfinch's mythology at around 7 or 8. Nothing was explicit, just Zeus turned into a swan and had a baby with some woman, or a bunch of people were killed during the Trojan war. No need to change the story, just don't go into unnecessary detail. I did spend a lot of time trying to figure out the swan thing though.

Carol Emory
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1 year ago

Actually..Zeus didn't impregnate Leda (the woman impregnated by the swan form of Zeus) to produce Hercules. He originally slept with Danae who gave birth to Perseus. Perseus son ,Electryon, fathered Alcmene who, in turn, slept with Zeus to produce Hercules. So Hercules was Zeus's great great grandson and his son...and cousin. How twisted is that?

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Mica Fiverline
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1 year ago

It was easier to digest for kids that way, I guess... Sure, the mythology is screwed up but Zeus was written to be a likeable character... The truth would have blown that out of the window. A "normal" Mom/Dad dynamic is much easier to understand for kids...

Zenozenobee
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1 year ago

Kids watching Disney step mothers being monsters for ever, it wouldn't be a problem. Disfunctional families are "normal" in disney's univers. Kids know stories like Tom Thumb they perfectly understand that parents of heroes can be fallible.

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Peter Bear
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1 year ago

To be perfectly fair, no authentic or accurate Greek myth could ever be a Disney movie. It's inaccurate, sure, but it's still a fun movie.

Whereamiphobia
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1 year ago

Also in the original stories hedes was more or less a better person than Hera

Tiffany Marie
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1 year ago

Ok. Disney changes stories a lot. Like Little Mermaid.

Twenty øne doggos
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1 year ago

Greek mythology is screwed up.

Meow
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1 year ago

Okay, this one really needs to be higher.

Mark Evans
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1 year ago

Of course it's Disney. They did the same thing with Pocahontas in which the story of the real Pocahontas is really depressing.

Minnie-me
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1 year ago

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a Disney (G or PG rated) movie if the move told the true mythological story

blugeagua
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1 year ago

Well Greek mythology was pretty misogynistic itself. Always portraying female figures as “jealous bitches”. Kind of nice that they changed it up for once.

Oathbraker
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1 year ago (edited)

Umm... it's a kids movie? Greek mythology involves quite a bit of sex, so it's easier for kids to understand "little brother envious of big brother" than a jealous woman. https://scontent.fsof5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64918077_2337409236349668_81256735381127168_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQnl5_vWKaapkPG1789PL0YJ1rKrzVOHGsnivfi007QUiiIXhuFrUHdHjzrKvtaR2WE&_nc_ht=scontent.fsof5-1.fna&oh=6920e73bcb8e734d550907609c53316c&oe=5DC5869D

Jon Parker
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1 year ago

Hercules was a great movie and should not be tainted by logic. =P

Roberto Durante
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1 year ago

no Greek working at Disney production

Analyn Lahr
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1 year ago

Disney had to make it "kid friendly" , so no infidelity or incest. Zeus and Hera were brother and sister.

glowworm2
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1 year ago

It would not have been appropriate for children, simple as that. Amusingly enough, I did once find a children's picture book written from Hera's point of view of how she tried to kill Hercules--the artwork looked like something out of Xena the Warrior Princess too. XD!

goodmorning
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1 year ago

But It's a movie based on the myth and not a documantery. Don't expect to learn mythology or history from movies . The real knowledge is in the books.

akiwi
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4 months ago

When I saw the movie, I was so surprised at how inaccurate it was. At least the songs were pretty nice

Miss_Olivia
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1 year ago

In Greek mythology Zeus had a child with his great granddaughter (Semele) who's the daughter of harmony who's the daughter of ares and Aphrodite. Ares is Zeus' son. So yeah, Greek mythology is kinda messed up.

ThatOneOwl
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1 year ago

I actually only knew this cause of Percy Jackson.

Jette Wang Wahnon
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1 year ago

What did you expect? American film makers (save a few)are not known for their deep knowledge of history going back more than a few decades.Anyone remember the ditty«Cecil B deMille much against his will couldn´t put Moses into The War of Roses«? What really bothers me is that any time a High-class couple/event etc is depicted you always hear Mozart´s Salzburger Concerts.For years I played with the idea of sending a tape of alternative classical music off to Hollywood...

Sheena Leversedge Wood
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1 year ago

well, obviously, it should have been Heracles, not Hercules. amusingly, named in honour of Hera. who tried to kill him. trust me, children can handle the darker implications of greek mythology. or any. although I did get funny looks during one of the Thor films (yeah, I know it's Norse) when I burst out laughing as Odin rode in on Sleipnir. when my husband looked a bit baffled, I had to explain the origins of Sleipnir.

Meyer Weinstock
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1 year ago

well, we also know Disney's track-record of keeping with the original scripts...

Ashley Wright
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1 year ago

Glad to know SOMEONE is up on their Greek Mythology. 👍🏻

Josie Jones
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1 year ago

It’s not meant to be the story of Hercules verbatim though it’s more like a Disney movie inspired by Hercules no?

glowworm2
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1 year ago

They also mixed up the Fates with the Graeae or Grey Ones who shared one eye and one tooth between them. In the animated movie, the Fates have one eye between them and keep passing it around. I saw the movie as a kid, so this actually bothered me more as an adult.

Warren Brown
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1 year ago

One more time gang. It,s a freakin' MOVIE !!!!

Paul Brake
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1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Hera, Hercules, and Zeus were not cartoon characters either.

Signe Manat Hansen
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1 year ago

No, they were and are completely fictional.

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Biljana Malesevic
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1 year ago

Yeah, but he is supposed to be only 18 I think. Swayze is not 18, but neither is Jennifer Gray. 18 and 16 is not too bad.

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Steve
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1 year ago

hmmm... do we know that in the original timeline Biff tried that? It was only because Marty was there that the two of them were parked, and Biff turned up. It's possible he didn't attack Lorraine in the original '55. Just a thought...

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Biljana Malesevic
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1 year ago

I think that would be even scarier, kid zombie killer.

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Daria B
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1 year ago

There is a YouTube channel dedicated to these little details in super hero films (and other). How It Should Have Ended. Very skillfully made funny videos.

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Foxxy
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1 year ago

There was a son lol.

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RaroaRaroa
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1 year ago

And no one ever has a password on their phone. Anyone can just pick it up and see what they've been texting.

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RaroaRaroa
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1 year ago

To be fair, the size of houses in most American movies and TV series' is ridiculous. A teacher and a nurse living in a massive house? No wonder immigrants think it's the place to be.

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Randy Dhuyvetter
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1 year ago

Well everyone knows men can't be raped... Yes, that is sarcasm...

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Bobert Robertson
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1 year ago

It was to keep his mind relaxed and clear so he wouldn’t be in a panic when they arrived and instead could go full send on the booby traps

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Laugh Fan
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1 year ago

I need to rewatch this...

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Paul K. Johnson
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1 year ago

Jenny was broken from childhood. This may bother you but it happens a lot in real life so it's not unrealistic.

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Daniel Shea
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1 year ago

Also how did they plant corn silently?

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Beau Haven
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1 year ago

Disagree. The point of the whole movie was Bueller getting Frye to live beyond his fears.

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glowworm2
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1 year ago

Including Hei Hei? XD!

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Laura Sanders
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1 year ago

I still can't handle how so many of the retired Bella's could afford to just jet off to Denmark

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Jason Cutrera
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1 year ago

There are actually a few good reasons why the eagle plan would have been a lot riskier. 1) The Ring has a will of its own and often drops from the grasp of whomever holds it. If, during flight, the Ring fell, the heroes would most likely never find it again before Sauron did -- especially if it fell over Mordor or the Dead Marshes. 2) While maybe not as strong as the Eagles in the air, the Ringwraiths are quite comfortable in the skies and I'm certain the Ringbearer would be less safe aloft than on the ground, where there are hiding places and escape routes. 3) As an intelligent race of Middle-Earth, the Eagles are as susceptible to the corrupting influence of the One Ring as any other. Discord would have been sown in the ranks of the Eagles and the Heroes, and that is another complication that Gandalf probably wouldn't have risked.

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