31 Things People Discovered Were Not OK In A Relationship Only After Dating Someone Else
It’s no big secret that every relationship comes with its unique set of norms, limits, and problems. Yet sometimes, especially if you don’t have a lot of expertise in the area, it can be hard to recognize whether the tendencies of your partner are actually normal or if they carry an unhealthy undertone.
This is particularly true in the case of long-term relationships since it may be easier to overlook and perhaps even rationalize someone’s conduct when you’ve given all of yourself to one person for such a lengthy period. However, regardless of your circumstances, there are certain relationship issues that you should never put up with, be it something as evil as abuse or as seemingly harmless as being a bit too clingy.
“People whose first relationship was very long-term, what weird thing did you believe was normal until you started seeing other people?” – this web user turned to one of Reddit’s most thought-provoking communities, asking its members to describe what traits and behaviors they thought were normal before they started dating others. The thread managed to garner over 57k upvotes as well as 11.8k comments discussing the random and sometimes rather toxic antics of ex-lovers.
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I texted my then new girlfriend about where I was and who I was with about every 30 minutes. After the 3rd time, she told me that she didn't need to get updates on what I was doing, and to just let her know when I got home safe. I remember feeling almost a physical weight being lifted off my chest because I didn't have to worry about my girlfriend freaking out if I didn't update her. I learned what trust felt like that night.
That PTSD from toxic relationships is real. I found myself always telling my gf where I was going whenever I stood up. "I'm going to the bathroom." "I'm going to the mailbox." Whatever. She finally asked why I do that and, it is leftover from my last relationship. It is nice not to feel obligated to do that anymore.
I've been with my husband for 7 years, married for 2. He still asks my permission to hangout with his friends. I always tell him he does not need to ask me to let him go. While I do appreciate the sentiment, ya know in case we had plans he forgot about (which happens sometimes), but I feel terrible that his ex made him feel like he can't do anything without permission. He still thanks me profusely for "letting" him go, even after all this time.
Considering my mother treats me like this constantly and my ex started, I didn't notice when the abuse had officially started. My parents royally f****d me over, and I'm not even sure I'd be able to tell with a slap or punch if I was being abused in all honesty.
Daily binge drinking until I realized a) I'm an alcoholic and b) hetero relationships don't work when one partner tries to drink the gay away
Only took me 9 years but I got there eventually
I've heard of people trying to Pray the Gay Away (and Beat The Gay Away) but never Drinking the Gay Away. I would imagine all three methods are about equally succesful.
I’m pretty sure that drinking the gay away might have the opposite effect to that intended. Alcohol lowers inhibitions 😆
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This is morbid but I thought it was normal to argue every day. I thought 'all couples have their bickering' and it was just a regular thing.
I was astounded when I went into my next relationship and actually got on with the guy and went weeks and weeks without having any issues. It always felt like the bubble was going to burst. Goes to show - don't stay in a relationship just because you've already invested a tonne of time. You get one life, spend it with someone who makes you laugh every day.
I remember being shocked when I was small and over at a friend's house. His parents disagreed about something and then, amazingly, didn't start screaming! They discussd whatever it was (something about a trampoline, I think) calmly, and listened to each other, and compromised on a solution. I had never seen adults behave like that! I'd always thought screaming and shouting was how people disagreed, and it was perfectly normal to disagree about everything.
My dad screamed a lot. And usually it was some seriously f****d up s**t. That combined with a series of relationships that made the learning curve look like a flat cliff made for some really rocky times in my marriage. I’m already about as subtle as a stampede, and the only thing I knew to fall back on when I got frustrated was yelling. So not very pretty. I’m better now, still loud, less rage. My wife appreciates it.
Load More Replies...my ex-wife and I would have an argument every other day that would lead to her not talking to me until I apologized (and assumed total fault) and a major argument at least every 10 days that would lead to her not talking to me until I apologized profusely and multiple times (again assuming total fault). One time I decided not to apologize (I was right dang it) and we went almost 3 weeks without talking. She just started talking to me as normal one day without ever acknowledging the disagreement or silence. I finally couldn't take it any more and divorced her (other reasons as well). I was so relieved to find out that was not normal in a relationship.
Dear god this. Was married to my ex husband for 15 years. Was always at least a little rocky, but the last couple years were bad. He would purposefully look for things to be mad about. Now 2.5 years with my new husband and we’ve had, like, a miscommunication three times and we worked through it respectfully and quickly. I never knew a relationship could be this easy!
I was in the "perfect" relationship once but every argument we had he threatened to leave me. It took me YEARS to undo that way of thinking. I'm married now and sometimes when we argue I still find myself worrying that divorce is on the table. DIVORCE. Like, that's such a huge thing to do over spilled milk. I don't guess I ever really realized how bad that relationship messed me up.
And some people don't realize how much the kids (if they have any) are affected. I used to babysit a little kid in baby-toddler years, and her parents "bickered" all the time. She was so happy to see me because she knew there was going to be peace and quiet while her parents were out. If I was there and her parents started, she would run and climb in my lap. Kids see/hear/feel a lot more than you think.
Our youngest son's friends came to play at our house because my husband and I never argued. But they also didn't want to look our way when we smooch in the kitchen while making a meal. LOL. One boy actually asked our son what we were doing, as he'd never seen his parents kiss.
That is too, too sad for your son's friend. Just heart-breaking about the kissing. Kudos to your family for providing him that safe space.
Load More Replies...I remember a coworker saying essentially the same thing. She was like, "Oh wow, after a dozen boyfriends I finally learned relationships don't need to be all drama and tension." She married the new guy and have been together almost 40 years now.
I'm still shocked that parents kiss and hug their kids on a daily basis. I never thought that they would do that. I never got that. I like it when parents do that. I like it when kids are loved and their parents showing them that! No. I do not have kids and I'm 50 now. I will not traumatize a young soul.
Your partner should actually make an effort to spend time with you. You shouldn't have to surprise them to spend any time with them.
If I didn't ask to hang out with my ex we never hung out. My new boyfriend constantly asks when I'm available. It actually annoyed me at first because I thought "what's his game?" There is no game, he just likes to be around me.
I was this in my last relationship, but when you get texts every 3 minutes asking about what you're doing and where you are, you tend to go quiet and not want to spend time with that person.
Psychological abuse. I have a physical reaction now when my current partners are nice to me when I do something he would have berated me for hours and locked me in my room for. Like, I get a panic attack *because* my partners are nice to me when I drop a glass, or got laid off, or forgot to unload the dishwasher. And then they don't bring it up every time they're irritated with me. My ex was still yelling at me 14 years later for s**t I did when we first started dating - s**t like I forgot to pick up his laundry from the floor or bought the wrong brand of bacon. At the end there, the lectures lasted hours as he recounted 14 years of offenses. My current partners? They don't throw s**t in my face that I did the day before. The dissonance is crazy. I knew the other abuse wasn't normal, but my step dad is the same way with my mom, so I had no idea, I just thought it's how men are.
My ex would constantly bring up the fact that I experimented with other guys prior to meeting him. "I'm so jealous that you did that thing with that one guy from years ago, but you won't do it with me." As I have tried to explain to him, that's when I realized I didn't like that thing, but he still acted hurt about it and took it as me rejecting him and not just accepting the fact that I have preferences in the bedroom. He never let it go.
I hate men like that. I've seen them in public. You can tell because the kids are quiet, the mom is not talking and seemingly being cautious of her actions, even at the mall, the tables haven been arranged so the dad is sitting at the end looking at everyone and everyone is just so serious.
My ex wife did this to me all the time. Every argument involved some offense from 10 years prior. Who has that kind of memory. That and the projection. If I made a wrong turn, she would ask, "oh, who do you know that lives down this road? What's her name, blah blah?" She was having an affair for the last 18 months of our marriage. Anyways, just pointing out that these s****y people don't all have penises. The difference, I suppose, is that I wasn't afraid she would physically harm me.
Load More Replies...This is why parents shouldn't be afraid of getting divorces for the sake of their kids, because the kids will adopt those standards for their own relationships
Yes, thank you for saying this! As a kid I actively wanted my parents to divorce, we all would have been a lot happier. Took a long time to unpack just how toxic their relationship was and figure out how to have a healthy one
Load More Replies...Wow. This is me, except it was 20 years. I never got locked in a room etc., but the lectures could go on for hours. Sometimes I'd even pass out (as in, fall into exhausted asleep) after hours of lecturing.
I completely get where you're coming from and agree! However, it's a lot harder when you're conditioned to always put others first no matter what at a tender young age. That's how it was with me, and I'm STILL learning that balance. It's a tough lesson to unlearn, if that makes sense.
Load More Replies...My goodness sweetheart I'm so glad you got out and that you're happy now.
This is exactly how my father is towards me, just not as aggressive. I'm treated like a total idiot when something goes wrong, even if it's not something I did or it's a little thing. And being extremely weary of any niceties from anyone else has kept me from getting hurt really bad. I'll never be able to fully open up to anyone, and it makes me sick that I was raised in a household to doubt everything about myself and hate myself, and society just laughed at the sidelines.
Dude help your mom get away from your stepdad!!! Lock you in your room?!?
That's one of the worst stories of abuse I ever heard, hours long lectures, that sounds terrible, and locking you up obviously.
That you should be happy together *now*, and not constantly waiting for some vaguely defined future where everything's settled down.
If you grow together, youre always changing in tiny ways as you learn new things and have new experiences together. If we're talking a purely physics metaphor, in an ideal world things are never settled. (Plus I'm hiding spam)
Aiding you in your spam suppression of Mr Uncool Spams-Alot.
Load More Replies...But there's circumstances where you NEED that optimism to overcome the bad times! If things had to be great all the time, people wouldn't stay together once they have children, or one loses their job, or one has (mental) health issues! I WILL be happy again, but we need to work out some issues, and that's not unusual. The point is that WAITING gets you nowhere, working on yourselves and with each other can!
Future Faking! That’s the term for this behavior. The promise of future perfection makes you stay through the daily misery, forever.
You mean like how my ex was always talking about how "if he won the lottery" instead of actually saving up for anything? Yeah.
The only thing I have to add is.. I sort of tell my husband this? He gets super stressed and plays his old relationship in his head n then he gets super irritable and will get upset at us for something thatvwe hadnt done n it takes the present time away from me n the kids amd only hurts himself n everyone else. I've suggested therapy but he won't. But he also doesn't want to keep doing that to us or himself either. Idk.
My first boyfriend was so ridiculously clingy. Like if we were in bed together we would HAVE to cuddle otherwise he would cry and think that I was mad at him, when in reality I was just hot and wanted some space.
I just thought that's what relationships were.
My relationship now is nothing like that. It is so nice to be in the same room but doing completely seperate things and not have to worry about each other.
I too do not deal well with guys constantly clinging. We're good, I love you, I will snuggle you for a bit, but especially when I want to sleep, I need room.
Clingyness ist a sure way to get rid of me permanently
Load More Replies...ah, the good old doing things separately, but together. one person reading while the other works on a craft, or one person gaming while the other person studies. It's great to be able to sit in a comfortable silence with your partner, a moment where you can turn off, relax, and just BE
Mastering “parallel play” is just as important as maintaining individualism.
We each have our own California king size beds in the same room and will never sleep with anyone else in my bed except ma puppy lol
This. My ex was so insecure & clingy. At first it was sweet - 12 years later it was exhausting. For instance: I collect hardbacks & am always super excited when I find one I want on sale. Instead of him hearing "I want to read my new book" what he heard was "I don't want to spend time with you". Also, if I didn't want sex that meant I didn't love him anymore. He turned it into such a chore that I just never wanted it period. Last fight we had he said the same sh*t again and I realized he was right. I DIDN'T love him anymore and we split up shortly after. My now husband & I have been together 15 years. I'm surfing Bored Panda and he's at the table watching YouTube on his phone. And NEITHER one of us is upset about it.
Honestly I'm very cuddly but I wouldn't make anyone feel bad if they didn't want to cuddle if I shared a bed with someone
I can't do physical touch too much anymore because my experiences through life made it very awkward for me. My ex told me at one point that we could be doing our own things and he'd be fine. What he didn't elaborate on was that I couldn't be on my phone or I was "cheating on him", in his mind. So when I'd be on my phone and he'd be building models, he'd try to do small talk, and that never works with me
Ugh. As someone who hates having anyone touch me when I'm trying to sleep, this would make me really angry.
Both oh my exbfs (2 years each relationship) told me that I had to be under 100lbs. I’m very petite but changed when I ate so I only ate one a day. My now husband has to kindly remind me that it’s okay to eat more then one meal.
That is just unacceptable to expect a grown adult to be under 100 pounds, that sounds like they wanted a child but wouldn’t admit it.
The toll something like this takes on a person to be super thin is devastating. It gets into your head that this is the only way you can be desirable and becomes your whole existence. Revolving everything around what you can eat and when and planning what excuse your going to use with your family and friends of why you are not participating in meals with them ( I am not feeling well, or I already ate) even though I now know I wasn't fooling anyone and they were incredibly worried about me when I kept losing weight ( 5'5" 90 lbs.) It's no way to live. I didn't learn until later in life that people don't typically desire such a physique. I am almost 40 now and finally got away from this obsessive mindset about 8 years ago. I can now enjoy my life instead of revolving it around food and exercise. I am so grateful that I was able to put it in my past.
Hopefully those exes find themselves in situations where they don't have a choice but to eat only once a day. I believe your own medicine is the best remedy for being a giant prick.
My partners would comment on the food I eat all the time. Like "You know that's really fattening", or "Oh, you're eating that snack, so I guess you're having less dinner later?", etc... I started hiding food and binge eating when I was alone. It's still a habit I haven't quite broken.
My dumb boyfriend criticized my food choices one time, I gave him such a death glare as I won’t stand for that mess. Our relationship did not continue far beyond that, for other reasons. But that is definitely a thing to break up over, repeated criticisms. I hope you can make progress on your life journey. Your health and wellness is not a thing you sacrifice to others for not being who/what they want you to be.(paraphrasing from “ the body is not an apology”)
Load More Replies...I had a husband who said he'd leave me "if I let myself go"... I left him, he got a new wife, she was very athletic until she broke her ankle and gained a small amount of weight.. so he left her.
This is a little strange I guess, sort of an individual thing, but... with my first two relationships (5 years total between the two) I never realized how cuddly I am. I used to HATE being touched or kissed, and I never realized that wasn't just... the way I was. I even thought I might be asexual, but deep down I knew that wasn't the case.
My fiancé used to be the same way, but when we met, somehow things just... clicked into place.
Oh honey, you need to realize that, in your past relationships, it wasn’t that you didn’t like being touched at all, it was actually that you just didn’t like being touched by the person you were with.
Me too! I hated being touched in my relationships. But I'm actually a really cuddly person. It was just that all touch from my partners was sexual or led to sex and I'd start to recoil from touch from anyone because it all felt sexual to me. It's nice to have regular platonic affection now along with some sexual affection.
this is me with my current boyfriend. I don't really wanna talk to him, especially not about personal stuff. I know I should break up with him but he always talks about how sad and depressed he would be if we broke up, along with "I would never break up with you over that". It makes me feel trapped sometimes. He's clingy to the point of he freaks out and texts my mom if I don't answer him within the hour. He always thinks I'm mad at him. It's tiring. I'm his first girlfriend, so it's even harder. Some advice would be helpful ngl, but you don't have to, sorry
You should definitely break up, this is emotional manipulation. If you want to, still be there for him, but make it absolutely clear that it is in a platonic way. If he oversteps boundaries you set you will no longer be there for him. Pass on numbers of helplines and get his friends and family involved if you are truly worried that he will hurt himself. This is not good for your mental or physical health and it is not a healthy relationship. I would also be honest as to why you are breaking up with him (even to the piint of putting your thoughts in writing prior to a conversation) so he has a chance to change his behaviour for a successful future relationship. Be strong, be clear that relationship will not be with you. In the end, you are not his therapist and you are not in any way obliged to put up with this.
Load More Replies...Yes! I thought I was just repulsed by the act of cuddling until I met someone I really really loved and I realized that I had just been dating people that I neither liked all that much nor felt safe with.
You're apparantly not supposed to be afraid of your boyfriend, and a man doing his share of his own housework is not impossible to come by nor something you can't realistically expect! Also your partner isn't supposed to hate your friends and family nor shout at you about not having steak for dinner. And throwing glasses/plates at you or throwing punches is, like, frowned upon. (I'm living a much better life nowadays, truly! :) )
I had a friend being very adamant that her husband wasn't abusing her. Well, I guess, if you ignore he was claiming to kill himself when she left (surprise, he didn't), that she had to hide behind the fridge because he was throwing the dishes to her and evety time he got mad he broke something, strangely enough never something he owned but always something from her or the kids, well, he didn't...
I, stupidly, thought this kind of behaviour had been left in the dim and distant past and that younger men were better. I didn't realise that it's never been acceptable by most men but that there are a hard core who will always do this and will normalise the behaviour for their sons and daughters. The process will repeat down the generations..
This one stuck. Haven't spoken to my abuser, yes you were an abuser, for over 25 years and left for the boy. The boy thinks his father his grand. He knows of some of the trauma but certainly not all, and my heart breaks when I'm compared to him; "He was there for me, you don't talk to me.." I always was and I tried but he was his fathers son. At least he's good to his wife.
Yeah. Being emotionally and mentally abused all your life makes you think you'd deserve that. I know I wouldn't, but if I ever got into a situation like that...I'm really not sure.
being cowed into an "open arrangement" = normal.
Him introducing me to "friends" while hanging out or going to parties and then him telling me later in the evening after the ice had broken that they were actually the girl(s) he was f*****g. Capitulating to his insistance that we continue to hang out even though I was uncomfortable with knowing this new information. = Normal.
Him making unwelcome and uncomfortable comments to other women I was friends with in front of me to attempt to orchestrate threesomes that I was not ok with.= Normal
If you love me, you'll chase after me = Normal
If you love me you'll leave face time up at all times so I can see whats going on in your dorm = Normal
If you love me you will not show any sad or mad emotion because it ruins my mood = Normal.
I wonder if we dated the same guy... For seven years I genuinely thought that toxic trashbag loved me. Despite all the signs.
Unless it's mutual, like Will Smith, open anything is not okay. It also happened to my husband with his ex-wife (she was doing it; he wasn't). He finally put his foot down and gave her a choice. I guess she chose wrong because he's now with me (30+ years).
Actually she chose right. Her loss. Your gain.
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Crying. All. The. Time.
She would use tears to the point of manipulation. This was in high school btw. I thought that was just “a girl thing” but no way. My current gf and I have been dating for 3 and a half years and she only cries when she’s in pain or having a panic attack. Both of which are not my fault and I can help her through.
Damn I thought every girl cried like 3 times a day. If any of you are dating a Kendra from Southern California, get the hell away.
Some people are more emotional than others, it will not be manipulation in every case. Having said that, you are not your partner's therapist.
Some people are more emotional than others, but finding reasons to cry 3 times a DAY? He may not be her therapist, but it sounds like she needs one.
Load More Replies...I used to cry a lot, but then I went numb. My ex...cried a LOT, and he never listened to me about seeing a therapist so...massive strain on the relationship that seriously wasn't needed.
I realized I was in a bad relationship entirely because I found myself crying far more often than was ever normal for me in or out of any other relationship. To this day, I don't know if he was intending to be cruel or not, but I've also come to understand that's not relevant. No matter what his real intentions were/are and no matter what may or may not be going on with me, I have no business staying in any relationship that makes me that unhappy.
That's why I don't like crying. I'm not trying to say the girl wasn't trying to be manipulative but I just used to cry a lot and in front of people especially during confrontation and then people would feel bad for me and it's just sooooo bad. I felt fake and manipulative! Like don't feel bad for me!!! Keep being mad!!!
I cry at the dumbest things; beautiful music, cute animals, seeing kindness, etc. I'm not pregnant. This has always been a thing I absolutely hate about being a girl. I hate crying. I hide it, probably because I was abused as a child, but I still hate it happening. Some of us are just like this, but it (being sensitive) doesn't make us use those tears to get our way. That's called manipulative.
I can sometimes cry a lot but I don't like to do it in front of others, for starters it's not for manipulation and second I am not a cute crier.
People's love languages are all different. It's especially jarring when you have a *lot* of experience doing things a certain way, and then finding out that isn't what somebody else needs. It can take some work to figure out what's inherent to yourself and what was learned from your partner.
I wonder what would happen if you copied the ad and sent it to "Mark Toray." I wonder if he'd be pissed off that someone sent him his own ad, or if he'd think you're a potential client. 🤔
Load More Replies...Its also wierd when they use these patterns after you told them no you don't like that. I had one person I would stop them, say no, and they would almost immediately go back to what they argued "what all women want", I would say no, stop them, then after a repeat, leave the room, they would follow and berate me. One planned night together lasted 1 hr: of no, stop, no, stop, try something else? no stop, no stop, argue, forget it I'm leaving.
Yes, people are different. It doesnt matter if you show your love in a way a previous partner liked a 100 times, if it isn't what your current partner likes or needs it's just a waste of time. It won't make them feel loved if it isn't what they need. That's why it's so important to communicate your needs and wants (and actually _listen_).
Or figuring out what's inherent to yourself because you were never given a single chance to find anything out about yourself growing up
My husband is a National Kite flying champion (yes, really). His ex was always so jealous/insecure about it. Being good takes a lot of practice & she was really passive aggressive about him flying. When we got together he asked if I minded if he went out and flew his kites for a few hours? No, go - have fun. I've got plenty to keep me busy. "Are you sure?" Yes - go. It took a few months for him to realize that I meant it and there wouldn't be some penalty to pay later. She and MY ex would have been perfect for each other.
And that's a big reason why ✨communication✨ is so important. It's often easier said than done, but just being upfront and talking to each other about those needs is super important for everyone to be satisfied and on the same page
I would lick the side of my first girlfriend's face like a dog and she loved it. My second girlfriend slapped me when I tried it.
the doggies are just showing their love!!! Be kind!! That being said, humans should not do that
Load More Replies...Someone once offered to lick my toes. I gently declined. That was a total stranger and I was wearing sandals.
You’re the only sane and rational person here, WHY would HE do that to begin with??!?!
Load More Replies...An ex and I used to do this to each other, and then giggle madly sigh...
I think honestly I'd be fine if my partner did this. Well, maybe not like a full on lick like a dog but for the most part I think saliva is fine (also as a sex-averse Ace person I must disagree with all the people saying they only want it in their private areas, to me that's disgusting, but to each their own I guess)
That sex should last more than 45 seconds
My father once told me to be careful of boys because it only took 25 seconds to get pregnant. I didn't think anything at the time but now, wow. I hope he was better with my mother.
A woman can get pregnant from small amounts of semen in the "clearing fluid" that is many times produced upon achieving an erection, he doesn't have to actually ejaculate for pregnancy to occur. The act of penetration alone is enough to do it.
Load More Replies...Sex should be as long as the both of you need for it to. It doesn't have to be all night or hours and hours. But good lord 45 seconds is grounds for divorce!
With oneself? Sure ✔️ I mean, if you’ve got the free time. /s
Load More Replies...I knew my ex had 31 partners before me. She always called me her 32nd lover. (I'll leave now.)
My first boyfriend would literally time himself to see how fast he could finish. Not solo, with me.
I feel so sorry you had to experience that. What a nasty human.
Load More Replies...That sex should last more than 45 seconds and then being told it's *my* fault.
I see so much horrible things on here, mine is quite tame but here goes.
My first boyfriend would always leave me small presents or notes underneath my pillow if I had to get up earlier than he did. He was quite romantic and told me I love you quite a lot. When I got a new boyfriend I caught myself looking underneath my pillow for at least a month/2 months in, just out of habit.
Aww that's sweet, so much better than the some of the abusive things on here
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Load More Replies...My husband tells me frequently during the day that he loves me. Especially first thing in the morning and last thing at night.
The time it took to write a note? I am sure he did not see it that way.
Load More Replies...It's so nice to read this one after all the others. I'm sure you can find a way to give him a hint, like maybe leave a gift under his pillow one day... I'm definitely stealing this idea though if I decide to ever date again. It's so draining.
She made me believe the old TV tropes of women NEVER wanting sex. I had to work my a*s off to get her to give me some action.
The next girl I had was just f*****g amazed that I didn't just ask for it when I wanted it. The bewildered look on her face when she finally asked "You realize I'm horny too right?"
"to get her to give me some action" eh..how about her? To get active together, to give her enjoyment? Did she enjoy sex or did it just for you?
Yeah, the way they phrase it here makes me think it wasn't a good experience for her, or he wanted her to beg & do things for him that were over the top.
Load More Replies...Dude, if you view sex as your girlfriend "giving you some action," rather than a mutual thing between equal partners, you just might be part of the problem.
Every person has a different sexual drive. It goes from asexual to constantly horny. The only way to make it work it's to talk about it. If the gap is too wide it probably won't last anyway, but if you don't talk about it even when the gap isn't that big, your relationship is gonna fail (assuming there is a gap, sometimes a couple has a similar sexual drive, so it doesn't matter that much, but I think that talk about it is a good approach anyway)
This is kinda striking me as entitled ex that didn’t respect his GF’s boundaries….
I'm on birth control for terrible menstrual periods and it totally kills any drive I have. Without it, I might have a libido, but it's way too active and then my periods are horrendous. I'd rather whoever I'm with to find fun elsewhere and have us do the different bonding things and me not be in misery than me be horny for their sakes. (Yes, I know this isn't normal, but I'm not in an environment where I'm safe to change it.)
This guy reminds me of one of my exes. His way of "getting me in the mood" was either asking "do you want to f*ck?" or straight up starting to grope me when I was doing something else, like cooking. Not tentatively, no, he'd just grab my boobs or my butt and squeeze them, like that'd get me in the mood. By the end of that relationship (I was too young to end it earlier), I'd started to cringe at his touch, because it always came with the expectation of sex... It's so important to talk to your partner about both your libido and what is your way to get horny, especially since for many people (mostly women), the relaxed head space is more important than the actual touching part of the foreplay...
Something about how this guy expresses himself seems off to me. Seems more like he had his wants sexually and it didn't work for the first gf (why she didn't want to have sex). I mean, of course you lack interest when you get nothing out of it...I can be wrong, of course, it's just the vibe I got. Plus, no need to be a martyr, if you don't get what you want you communicate and if that doesn't work - you leave. No one should cater to your sexual needs out of obligation - no one owe you sex, not even your partner.
I grew up in a pretty strict Christian home and was taught that sex before marriage was a sin.
My first teenage boyfriend and I were together for 5 years and never came anywhere close to having sex. At the time, I thought it was because I was a good Christian. Since sex before marriage was wrong, I didn't want to have sex with him. All my friends were either having sex or struggling not to. I didn't understand this because I didn't have the desire to do "wrong," just as I didn't have the desire to hurt people or lie or steal.
He and I broke up as our lives went in different paths. My next relationship became sexual pretty quickly, and it was only then that I realized that I was never really attracted to my ex, which is why I didn't want to have sex with him.
How many times do I have to downvote and report spam for this guy to get blocked? He is so f***Ing annoying
Why it isn't the obvious spam removed? I've already told it, BP needs better moderators (assuming there are some and all is not automated, in that case BP needs moderators, period). Normal people with unpopular opinion, that are entitled to have, get banned, and we have to read over and over the unlikely recipe for getting rich. For god's sake, it's time to optimize your site a little bit
Load More Replies...Yup. For everyone. In my Christian school, boys got at least semi-decent sex ed while girls just got "don't tempt the boys" lectures. I thought I there was something wrong with me because I had sexual desires and I was taught that girls didn't have those.
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My ex basically taught me that it wasn't okay for me to be upset about things. Every time I would get my feelings hurt (even when I was upset about something completely unrelated to him) it was somehow flipped around so I ended up reassuring and comforting him. That s**t really messed me up, and I basically had to relearn how to be vulnerable with my SO. He also had a very solid plan of how he expected me to live my life, basically his main goal for me was to have kids and be a good housewife. Yikes.
On the bright side, nowadays I'm happily engaged and my fiance treats me with so much love and respect. He's supportive of my dreams and we are able to lean on each other in times of hardship.
I've experienced that in several of my relationships with men. I am upset about something and he gets angry and will flip it around and suddenly he is the one upset and I have to take care of him and apologize, because how dare I be upset? It confuses me to this day.What kind of situation am I allowed to be upset with, how sad is too sad, what amount of bad emotion can I safely show and how do I show "negative" emotions appropriately, so I don't anger anyone? It's tough to believe that this is normal for most of your life and it's very hard to learn that being upset is totally fine and no one else has the right to gatekeep your emotions or guilttrip you for showing them.
Heeeyyyy, my ex was exactly like the first dude. I wonder if they're the same guy
Imma be honest my ex accidentally did the whole getting sad when I was so I ended up comforting them... They're an emotional person ngl and I still try to comfort them and s**t whenever they're sad- which is a lot
It wasn't super long term, only about a year but when you're in high school that's fairly long term. My ex was a very clingy dude, sweet but would follow me around every social gathering and get jealous of me spending time with my friends. When I started dating the guy who is now my husband I remember looking around at a party early on of mostly my friends that he hadn't met before and I couldn't find him. I asked someone where he was and he was out by the fire with a group of people chatting and hanging out. I was astonished that we could just go our separate ways in a social setting and that was totally fine, we didn't have to be attached at the hip the whole time.
Edit: When I say he would follow me around I literally mean he never left my side. And these were parties and things where he knew everyone as well. At one point my friend was upset so I went into a bedroom with her and another friend to talk to her and within five minutes he came into the room and even though this was obviously private he just stood in there. And I did tell him multiple times that we didn't constantly have to be beside each other. If you and your partner like to hang out at parties that's fine but it was suffocating to me. He was jealous of my friends and complained when I would make plans with them. Honestly we were young and he's probably a totally fine dude now. We were just not right together.
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Load More Replies...I will never be like this again (even with my severe social anxiety), and I hope to never have anyone like this again. Some reassurance is fine, but like...leave me alone for a bit, geez.
To be fair, I've seen it with myself and with other people during high-school: you're just not used to the enormity of being in love, and if it's the best thing ever to be with that someone, why would you ever leave their side? Of course it's different 1. when the other person needs more independence and 2. when you're both older and things should be put into perspective. I had a 25-y-o long distance boyfriend when I was about the same age, and he threw a tantrum when I said I had enjoyed spending my Christmas vacation alone in London, because apparently that meant I didn't care about him. I realised I didn't care about him, but the vacation had nothing to do with that.
That mental/emotional abuse and not doing things together was normal...if that makes sense.
We met online and our first date was okay...but that was the last time we ever really went out in public. He was older than me so after work he would come to my college dorm. He forced me to have sex, and would get angry with me if I didn't....mock sadness and disappointment in me. I didn't want to but I thought I loved him and I thought he knew best.
He would avoid me for months at a time, just saying he was busy (usually during the summer. He was a teacher), and then try to convince me everything was okay come September.
He got engaged to another woman while still trying to convince me we were a happy couple. They got married two months ago.
Yes, I should have registered the signs, but he was my first relationship ever and I just wanted to believe it was all normal and okay. :(
On a much happier, lighter note, I am currently engaged to the actual man of my dreams, and he treats me like a princess :)
Both of these sound appalling. I was totally idolized in my previous relationship...or, rather, the idea of me was, and I absolutely abhorred it. I had no alone time, couldn't do anything without him having a panic attack and needing to know, he would text my friends if I didn't text back within 2 minutes, and so on. So opposite of this person but I was coerced into the sex too, so I get that.
I always thought treated like a princess meant to be respected, revered, to be happy in her company and to be grateful she is in his life.
Not every guy wants to throw on Motown and slow dance with you. Some of them don't even care to touch you.
I miss the slow dances.
I miss dancing with my husband. He had an accident 5 years ago, and was lucky to keep his leg. He tries, but it hurts him, so I don't want him hurting.
Some handicapped people figure out a way to dance while sitting... or lying down.
Load More Replies...I recently went to a school dance, and I didn't have a guy to go with so I went solo but I was super sad I had no one to dance with cause all the couples looked so happy. ☹️
It may not be to Motown, but I'll slow dance. With the right girl, I'll slow dance even when there is no music
Put it on your "must have" list and weed out anyone that doesn't want to or doesn't want to learn. You know what you want, don't settle without it. Very reasonable thing, and not something every guy will want. Find the right match.
I wanna learn slow dance, but my proportions are very odd compared to most, so it wouldn't really work out anyways.
Your proportions don't matter. If you have no arms and no legs, it doesn't matter, you just need to find the right dance partner, even if it's just a friend.
Load More Replies...Yeah, my husband is definitely "that white guy" and refuses to dance EVER. We don't socialize all that much, but I do miss dancing. He makes up for it in so many other ways, but every once in a while ...
Putting his wants over my needs.
Putting his comfort above mine.
His comfort over my safety.
They shouldn't try to make you jealous. And definitely shouldn't get mad if it doesn't work.
They also shouldn't make you feel like one day their fist will find your face instead of a wall. Anger issues should not be normal. And one day I realized that if/when it happened, I could forgive him. I wish I had told someone that so they could have told me I should never even consider that possibility.
I also thought that violently swinging from rage to sappy romantic in less than a second was sweet, since it meant he was sorry for whatever he did or said.
Other than this Donald Cole,twat. If everything is about him , nothing for you. That's a major red flag.. Run , get away from them ,They only want to take ,never give . Ladies, you deserve better.
People always ask why you put up with it but it never starts like this, it happens slowly over a long period. During that time you're made to believe you're being unreasonable and every small offence they commit isn't worth raising because it would cause trouble, they steadily increase the bad behaviour until it gets to the above. Anyone can find themselves in this situation, anyone..
I have anger issues I think. When I get frustrated or mad I stab my hand with a pencil or dig my fingers into it and want to yell and idk better ways to cope
My ex put her happines on me making it my responisbilty. Would demand I stay around and cut my work hours back and then be upset when we wouldnt have money to go out. Every time I would try and leave I was coerced with sex to stay, because I was young and stupid. After 8 years I had enough I moved 5 states away. Had a chain of bad relatsionships that ended, took some time to work on myself and im now engaged to an amazing woman I can communicate with share feelings about issues and who values a healthy relationship.
My happiness is no one's responsibility, ever...but man would it be nice to be someone's interest from time to time...
Her father hating me. I just thought this was normal, but in the subsequent 3 relationships (last one turning into a marriage and family) the parents were kind and I couldn't believe that is possible.
Some dad's do that if they believe you are not good enough for his "princess" . It's him not you.
Maybe he needed the time and experience of the previous relationships to grow and be a better person. The fathers may have seen that?
Load More Replies...Parent's hating "the boyfriend" is so scripted by tv etc., It certainly happens but I bet a lot of "dads" "hate" the boyfriend because they just believe they're "supposed to".
It's the same with Mothers-in-law hating their son's wife and trying to upstage her - I'm glad my and my husband's parents are all perfectly lovely people and get along with each other, too.
Load More Replies...My FIL disliked me living with his daughter so much he didn’t speak to me for nearly 3 years and refused to have me in his house. Then we got engaged and he had to decide whether to keep up his childish nonsense or come to the wedding. Luckily he chose the latter option but, decades later, things are still a bit frosty. Ultimately, after the way he treated both of us - esp. my wife, I don’t really care what he thinks and still don’t. I’m only civil to him for my wife’s sake. I’m sure I’m not alone in this.
I think that it's okay not to have the highest opinion of your daughter's/son's/sister's or brother's partner but it's what you DO with your opinion. Unless they're in danger (mental or physical) then you have to recognise that it's THEIR choice and you have to keep a lid on it. I've seen families tear themselves apart because someone couldn't be civil to someone they thought wasn't good enough for their precious son/daughter..
My 'rents are so indifferent to who I date now that they don't even tell me if they think the guy's a wrong fit. They just...have never actually cared about me.
My mother calls my husband her favourite child. She adores him. I don't blame her really. He's amazing. lol
Relationships are really tough if the parents don't like you for any reason.
just like a lot of toxic behaviour. It wasnt a healthy relationship and I found myself looking after the other person and organizing my life around their needs. 4 years later and im still learning what a healthy relationship looks like and what its like when someone is looking after my needs.
I honestly thought that (org around their needs) was the point of marriage until I realized it wasn't so. My first husband was actually the worst toxic man I've ever met (the marriage included all sorts of violence and harassment). Then I got married again and 30 some years later my husband is talking about what he wants to do when he retires and I realize that's not what I want to do. "Of course you can do something else!". Really? I didn't know that. It took me 2 weeks to come up with a retirement plan I was happy with. Now we're both retired and happy with our outcome. And we do have lots of stuff in common too.
Do not dispair, we can find a partner sometimes when we're not looking... Chin up !
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Wait, not everyone wants commitment? I always looked to the future. It was nice that the guys I dated in between my long relationships were kind enough to break it off when they realized what I was really after though.
At this point, I'll be happy to find someone patient who just doesn't mind my company.
Aaw, I’m sure you’ll find someone who does more than just tolerate you
Load More Replies...Yeah, I've always been a "relationship" girl. I don't do casual and have never had a one night stand in my life (59). My now husband was really surprised (in a nice way) when I told him on our second date that I don't have sex with strangers. I would have to get to know him and be comfortable with him before anything like that happened, so if that's a deal breaker... Thankfully, it wasn't & we've been together 15 years.
Not me but the girl I'm currently dating said that her first long-term boyfriend would stare at himself in the bathroom for an hour or so before going to bed each night.
Maybe he was doing quiet affirmations? My therapist has told me to look in the mirror and say kind things to myself
Yes. I stare at myself in the mirror before bed. It is a ritual I've had for a couple years now. I do it as a way of reassuring myself. It is complicated, even if I know I should go to bed I have to see myself. (Also a way to make sure I still exist. Lol, what is wrong with me.)
Load More Replies...Several comments are guessing why. I'm wondering what kept you from asking him what he was doing.
Was he meditating? Some practitioners suggest focusing on an object like a palm stone or a candle flame. Maybe he was using his reflection as a focus?
That some girls, in a relationship, don't like to kiss as often as others. I'm just talking about pecks when I/gf gets home etc. I always enjoyed a hello kiss but I guess some girls don't?
For some reason, I don't like kisses on the lips but I feel so loved with cuddles and kisses on the forehead 🥰🥰
I'm so glad someone else feels like this. Genuinely thought I was abnormal. :0(
Load More Replies...That would not be me, neither my husband. We kiss every chance we have, even if it's just a peck. Meeting in the kitchen, start eating, going behind his chair to pass, etc.
I'm doubting I'm even pan anymore. The idea of physical affections makes me nervous, jittery, and a little bit like I want to cry. So yeah, every girl is different
Some guys don't as well. I dated a guy for a while that didn't like deep/french kissing (only quick pecks) and dämn, I love it, and I honestly missed it so that now, even before I kiss a guy I'm interested in I feel kiss-starved.
It was very minor all things considered. I got used to never being complimented, just criticized. I take that back, he did compliment me, once. He told me that in Saudi (his parents worked for an oil company and had moved there) I'd be worth many camels because I was "buxsom, had child bearing hips, and reddish hair". Yeah, he actually said buxsom. I've been married 22 years, and he was several years before that, and I still don't do well with compliments.
Tbh, if you're only going to give your partner one compliment in your entire relationship, telling them that they're worth many camels is the way to go.
Me doing the mental math on how many camels I would be worth...
Load More Replies...I never do well with compliments either. Instead of actively try to deny them anymore though, I just go the pacifist route and go "well you think that way". I'll never believe compliments because nobody's ever actually kept up with the relationship (friend, partner, etc).
There's a name for it now 'negging' I'm glad it's been named and shamed. It's not acceptable to tear someone down..
Someone once tried "you're cute, but your dog is way cuter." Fortunately I had enough wits about me in the moment to let them know that the dog was also way more likely to make out with them.
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I never necessarily thought it was "normal" since I reject that loose characterization, but my girlfriend used to beg me to sniff my farts. It wasn't in a kinky way or anything, that would be disturbing. But from time to time, she'd ask me if I needed to let one rip, and I'd be like "no...(is this girl okay)?" and she'd kind of just not give me a response and pretend like nothing happened. Then 15 minutes later, she'd ask again, and I'd be like "actually yeah, kind of, why?" And then she'd ask me to take off my pants and spread my legs, after which she'd nestle the tip of her nose in that dark crevasse, clear her throat, slap my a*s and say "okay, go" with an elegance fit for ballerinas, not for fart-sniffers.
Well, that's disturbing. It sounds like the next step would be coprophagia.
You my dear get an upvote for using the proper term 😉
Load More Replies...This whole scenario screams KINK! How could it not be dude!?!?
This is really funny and never heard of it but probably because most people would not share something like this. LOL.
I’m trying to consider an option in this situation other than her fetishising his farting on her face. TBH, if it’s some sort of psychological compulsion that doesn’t involve sexualising, that’s even more disturbing. To normalise fart sniffing with a*s to face contact as means of feeling intimacy or loyalty is just off the charts. I’d rather hear it’s her kink than a psychosexual or personality disorder. And as much as I don’t wanna kink shame…blargh!!!
That post is clearly the poster’s kink. I don't believe that for a second
My life will never be the same after reading this and I don't appreciate that
I fled my abusive ex 4 years ago; I have been in my new relationship for almost 3 years. I still apologise if I make a noise doing something or dropping something; I still feel very grateful that he doesn't throw the plate at me if he finds an accidental hair in his food; I still marvel that he doesn't punch or hit me if I accidentally snag and pull a hair when I'm giving him a haircut; he never tells me I talk too much, or tells me he's not interested in my opinion.... He always thanks me for every single cup of tea, every single meal, every load of laundry, every bit of cleaning. I'm not used to being appreciated and valued and even now, just writing this post brings me to tears. I love this man so much.
So glad that you are with someone who treats you right and makes you happy. Good job being strong and doing the right thing after so much wrong was done to you.
Load More Replies...I left my most recent ex 4 years ago and I do not miss it. I used to be clingy and wanting a relationship desperately...but that was until I really looked at myself. I don't like physical touch, I don't like compliments, I like to be alone...the idea of sex still makes my anxiety drive up the wall. Like...nothing about me says "relationship material," so I'm pretty sure it was all media and society telling me that I'm nothing without someone else, and it is definitely my family just making it clear nearly every day that I'm nothing. Sooooo...yeah I don't want anything besides a nice job that won't set off my PTSD, a little place to call my own, and to be left tf alone.
Try getting a cat. (If you can.) Good for non-clingy companionship, and any guy you meet who doesn’t like cats is already a red flag. Perfect jerk detector!
Load More Replies...most of this is me with my current boyfriend. I don't really wanna talk to him, especially not about personal stuff. I know I should break up with him but he always talks about how sad and depressed he would be if we broke up, along with "I would never break up with you over that". It makes me feel trapped sometimes. He's clingy to the point of he freaks out and texts my mom if I don't answer him within the hour. He never leaves my side at anything social, and freaks out if I do. He doesn't have many friends, but is friends with all my friends. He always thinks I'm mad at him. It's tiring. I'm his first girlfriend, so it's even harder. Some advice would be helpful ngl, but you don't have to, sorry. Thanks for reading this lol
You REALLY need to talk to him, even if it's uncomfortable and you don't like doing it very much. That's the only way to get out of this trap, and even if it ends with you leaving him, he'll have learned a lessions about how his own behavior affects his relationship to others. Does he have any past traumas himself that he reacts like that himself? Would be important to know and talk about.
Load More Replies...I was completely abused in my first marriage but I thought it was normal since my parents and siblings were treating me the same way. I finally got out and someone found me and we've been together over 30 years now. Just happens that we were both abused so we were extra careful, especially at the beginning, not to repeat anything that we went through. Both of us is put on a pedestal by the other and that feels great.
I married the wrong man before I realized it's not normal to sleep with your cell phone under the covers next to you so he doesn't snoop. It's also not normal to never apologize for starting a fight then not apologizing or actually trying to fix a problem. Our marriage is broken because he's not interested in solutions.
Is it normal for your girlfriend to straight up refuse to tell you why they're having a breakdown? Or super clingy yet refusing to kiss you? I really need some help from those more experienced
It is definitely not healthy to treat people that way. Nor is it healthy to allow yourself to be treated that way. Communication is KEY to any healthy relationship.
Load More Replies...I learned that it's not okay for any conversation about something you'd like to see change or how you're making me feel by doing xyz or anything related to emotions was fodder for an argument. I have needs and they are valid. It is in no way a criticism against you, it is just a fact that is true for me and if you don't care or can't be bothered to meet those needs then we need to go our separate ways.
my first relationship was anything but normal, which honestly led me to believing anything could be normal for us. I was a stupid 14 year old and so was he, only a few months younger than me, and we were incredibly long distance (think 6 hour time gap) I was blindly devoted to someone I didn't even know the last name of, someone that only sent me 3 (heavily filtered) pictures of himself throughout our entire relationship. I thought it was all normal. over time as we got older (17/18 years old)bhe began to emotionally manipulate me, making me promise I'd be with him forever, telling me I was too good for him, that I was an angel on earth. I blindly loved him, ignoring all the red flags that popped up. he became an alcoholic to cope with his shyness, he started smoking after his friends pressured him into it. I thought it was normal that my partner would never listen to me and my fears. even after we broke up, he'd still emotionally manipulate anything he wanted out of me, including...
...nude photos on my 18th birthday since I was "legal." it was nearly 5 am and in my sleep deprived state, I obliged. towards the end of my time knowing him, he threatened several times to take his own life and I would have to talk him out of it each and every time, spending hours crying in a purely stressed out state. it actually caused flare ups of bad pain due to my disability and I lost the ability to menstruate for 6 months. one day, he just ghosted me and I never heard from him again, although a mutual friend confirmed that he hadn't taken his own life. these days, things have gotten better, and I'm with someone that loves and cares about me, flaws and all. someone that doesn't ramble about attack helicopters the moment I mention I'm nonbinary. someone that doesn't fetishize my bisexuality. this person even got to see me at my worst, spending all my energy caring for someone that never did the same for me
Load More Replies...I fled my abusive ex 4 years ago; I have been in my new relationship for almost 3 years. I still apologise if I make a noise doing something or dropping something; I still feel very grateful that he doesn't throw the plate at me if he finds an accidental hair in his food; I still marvel that he doesn't punch or hit me if I accidentally snag and pull a hair when I'm giving him a haircut; he never tells me I talk too much, or tells me he's not interested in my opinion.... He always thanks me for every single cup of tea, every single meal, every load of laundry, every bit of cleaning. I'm not used to being appreciated and valued and even now, just writing this post brings me to tears. I love this man so much.
So glad that you are with someone who treats you right and makes you happy. Good job being strong and doing the right thing after so much wrong was done to you.
Load More Replies...I left my most recent ex 4 years ago and I do not miss it. I used to be clingy and wanting a relationship desperately...but that was until I really looked at myself. I don't like physical touch, I don't like compliments, I like to be alone...the idea of sex still makes my anxiety drive up the wall. Like...nothing about me says "relationship material," so I'm pretty sure it was all media and society telling me that I'm nothing without someone else, and it is definitely my family just making it clear nearly every day that I'm nothing. Sooooo...yeah I don't want anything besides a nice job that won't set off my PTSD, a little place to call my own, and to be left tf alone.
Try getting a cat. (If you can.) Good for non-clingy companionship, and any guy you meet who doesn’t like cats is already a red flag. Perfect jerk detector!
Load More Replies...most of this is me with my current boyfriend. I don't really wanna talk to him, especially not about personal stuff. I know I should break up with him but he always talks about how sad and depressed he would be if we broke up, along with "I would never break up with you over that". It makes me feel trapped sometimes. He's clingy to the point of he freaks out and texts my mom if I don't answer him within the hour. He never leaves my side at anything social, and freaks out if I do. He doesn't have many friends, but is friends with all my friends. He always thinks I'm mad at him. It's tiring. I'm his first girlfriend, so it's even harder. Some advice would be helpful ngl, but you don't have to, sorry. Thanks for reading this lol
You REALLY need to talk to him, even if it's uncomfortable and you don't like doing it very much. That's the only way to get out of this trap, and even if it ends with you leaving him, he'll have learned a lessions about how his own behavior affects his relationship to others. Does he have any past traumas himself that he reacts like that himself? Would be important to know and talk about.
Load More Replies...I was completely abused in my first marriage but I thought it was normal since my parents and siblings were treating me the same way. I finally got out and someone found me and we've been together over 30 years now. Just happens that we were both abused so we were extra careful, especially at the beginning, not to repeat anything that we went through. Both of us is put on a pedestal by the other and that feels great.
I married the wrong man before I realized it's not normal to sleep with your cell phone under the covers next to you so he doesn't snoop. It's also not normal to never apologize for starting a fight then not apologizing or actually trying to fix a problem. Our marriage is broken because he's not interested in solutions.
Is it normal for your girlfriend to straight up refuse to tell you why they're having a breakdown? Or super clingy yet refusing to kiss you? I really need some help from those more experienced
It is definitely not healthy to treat people that way. Nor is it healthy to allow yourself to be treated that way. Communication is KEY to any healthy relationship.
Load More Replies...I learned that it's not okay for any conversation about something you'd like to see change or how you're making me feel by doing xyz or anything related to emotions was fodder for an argument. I have needs and they are valid. It is in no way a criticism against you, it is just a fact that is true for me and if you don't care or can't be bothered to meet those needs then we need to go our separate ways.
my first relationship was anything but normal, which honestly led me to believing anything could be normal for us. I was a stupid 14 year old and so was he, only a few months younger than me, and we were incredibly long distance (think 6 hour time gap) I was blindly devoted to someone I didn't even know the last name of, someone that only sent me 3 (heavily filtered) pictures of himself throughout our entire relationship. I thought it was all normal. over time as we got older (17/18 years old)bhe began to emotionally manipulate me, making me promise I'd be with him forever, telling me I was too good for him, that I was an angel on earth. I blindly loved him, ignoring all the red flags that popped up. he became an alcoholic to cope with his shyness, he started smoking after his friends pressured him into it. I thought it was normal that my partner would never listen to me and my fears. even after we broke up, he'd still emotionally manipulate anything he wanted out of me, including...
...nude photos on my 18th birthday since I was "legal." it was nearly 5 am and in my sleep deprived state, I obliged. towards the end of my time knowing him, he threatened several times to take his own life and I would have to talk him out of it each and every time, spending hours crying in a purely stressed out state. it actually caused flare ups of bad pain due to my disability and I lost the ability to menstruate for 6 months. one day, he just ghosted me and I never heard from him again, although a mutual friend confirmed that he hadn't taken his own life. these days, things have gotten better, and I'm with someone that loves and cares about me, flaws and all. someone that doesn't ramble about attack helicopters the moment I mention I'm nonbinary. someone that doesn't fetishize my bisexuality. this person even got to see me at my worst, spending all my energy caring for someone that never did the same for me
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