“Written By A Man”: Women Are Calling Out 30 Unrealistic Female Character Tropes They See In Books And Movies
The perfect suburban '50s housewife. The wholesome girl next door. And, of course, the bimbo. I think it's safe to say we've seen one too many of these tropes on the big screen.
Interested in finding out which productions have resorted to them (and other similar ones), Reddit user Mikess314 made a post on r/AskWomen, saying: "What movie featuring female characters was clearly made without a single woman being involved?"
Turns out, people think there's no shortage of them. Continue scrolling to check out how everyone responded.
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Jurrasic World. Let's please stop it with 'frigid, stuck up corporate woman taken down a peg by rough and tumble guy with big heart and then falls in love with him'. Please, I'm begging everyone in Hollywood. Stop this madness.
Harley Quinn’s dumb outfit in Suicide Squad. No woman is going to dress like that for anything physical. Those short shorts would ride up your bum and you’d break your ankle in the stilettos.
There’s a huge difference with the outfits in Birds of Prey which was written, directed and produced by women. High rise denim shorts, sports bra and a chunky wedge (or trainers I think?) is a way better outfit for causing mayhem.
When I cause mayhem I'm in sweats sneakers and a sports bra so they don't hurt when I run. Need comfort for the chaos.
I’m a man and I agree with your statement. It’s more logical to be honest.
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I agree with most of these but Margot Robbie says she's the one who chooses her outfits. She's a producer on several of the movies where the character appears. The one above was chosen over a denim jumpsuit that looked like the cartoon version because Ms. Robbie said it wouldn't work. They were chosen because Harley would want fun and doesn't care if its sexy. She said she regretted her decision once filming was going because of comfort levels (both self-consciousness and trying to hold a leaking greasy hamburger over fishnet stockings) and she got cold during many of the night shoots. Her outfits become more practical in the later movies because she said she came to hate those hotpants. I admire Ms. Robbie because she's taken control of all parts of her professional life and does what she thinks is right for both herself and her characters. Birds of Prey was postponed because as a producer, she wanted to do Tanya Harding's story first.
superhero movie character wears outfit that aligns with character's comic book outfits, shocker
That says a lot about the quality of writing of said comic books, though
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I feel that TV lost a great female character when Taken was canceled. Jessica Camacho is an amazingly beautiful woman, however, her character was handled correctly in this series and not played just for her looks. Many other shows/movies would have had Santana running around in bikini tops and heels. Instead this show had her go into combat in military issue boots, sweatshirts and pants. She dressed like she was going to fight instead of a club.
Absolutely no s**t though. Also, its a superhero/villian movie and you're gonna b***h about an outfit? This is the same universes where theres a dude who can fly and is weakened by a rock.
It's possible to focus on more than one thing W**g
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If I was to cause mayhem I would like sweat pants made with a really stretchy material and protective knee pads 'cause my knees are really bony. Maybe something to protect my elbows, they are bony too.
saw this video, forgot the name. It was comparing Harley Quinn's clothes in Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey. Suicide Squad was her dressing for the guys, and Birds of Prey was her dressing for herself.
After watching The Suicide Squad a lot going back and seeing clips of Harley in Suicide Squad I was like, "Holy crap those shorts really are terrible". I always knew that they were small but it's kind of embarrassing to see them now after the outfits she had in the more recent movie.
If you know how to walk properly in stilettos, you can do anything in them. Pole dancer here.
Yeah, well, in that movie she was still completely emotionally dependent on the Joker. So chances are her outfits were designed by a guy in-universe
This right here is why I couldn't even watch this movie. Give me the onesie Harley Quinn in red and black, any day. More attractive, too.
Not saying this to disagree about the heels just an different situation. I had the pleasure years ago to work with a great actress who excelled at sword combat. She loved doing her fights, including some stunt work, in heels. She was scary in 3in heels lol. It was the chaffing with sequins in soft spot that personally makes me squeeze my nether area together in fear.
There's a race where women run wearing high heels....just saying
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No, they take issue with impractical and stupid slutty super-villain sportswear
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I can run a marathon in stilettos and short shorts are what sprinters wear at competitions! In no way you wear denim for doing sports... Even less high waisted denim! Ok Harley Queen is over sexualized but her outfit are ok for causing Mayhem... Stop saying non sense!
Birds of prey is one of the worst movies ever, my wife, daughter and son all of them asked me to turn it off
I could run a (half) marathon in stilettos - but those shorts crawling up my @$$ would be a huge NO. (I say half because I don't run unless I am being chased).
Also, what a chick could do for some monsters with a bat? A man couldn't do anything for them with a bat. Just give her a normal gun.
The best outfit for causing mayhem is undoubtedly the M4 Sherman Medium Tank.
Pure jealousy. Are you deconstructing everyone's outfit to analyze the practicality of it? Or just the searing hot Margot Robbie because you could never, ever pull off those amazing shorts?
What a weak ass argument. Margot Robbie looks fúcking amazing in a red tuille dress and combat boots in the new Suicide Squad. She looks fúcking stupid in the first one. She always looks hot. That's Margot Robbie.
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This is in line with the character in the comic book..Has nothing to do with MALES writing the script..
From what I remember of the films, there was a half man/half shark, someone who shoots polkadots from his body, someone who controls rats etc......and the complaint is Harley Quinns outfit??? It's sci-fi.....it's supposed to be ridiculous!
Nope, that's the new one. In which her outfits rock.
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OK. So I will wear a man-kini in my next film. And perhaps man-thongs. And perhaps shorts that show my a**e. And perhaps a T-shirt that shows my nipples peaking through. So????? C
i have never seen the movie or whatever it is - but she looks very acceptable to me - if she would entertain the idea..... looks like a wild ride.
That's one character I can't stand. I just find her extremely irritating.
Yeah, but sex sells. Nothing in these kind of movies is realistic, so why should the woman’s outfit be? Many man outfits are dumb as well.
Almost every female super heroes. What woman in her right mind would go into battle breast out, legs bare, hair flying all over the place in full nails and makeup? It doesn’t matter if it’s a tv program, a movie, anime, live action, cartoon, etc…
Not a movie, but the episode of Game of Thrones where Gillie decides to take Sam's virginity 5 seconds after he saves her from being r**ed and we all know that nothing makes a woman hotter than almost being r**ed by gruesome strangers. Oh, wait, no, it's just that a bunch of dudes decided that Sam deserved a "prize" for his heroic acts and so they wrote in the woman's vagina as the prize without putting any thought into what an actual human female would do in that situation.
This one is especially bad because in a previous season there was a well-written scene where a female character specifically states "A woman who has just escaped a r**e won't want to have sex immediately after. You should have known you were being set up because of that."
So not only where there no women involved in the new scene, there was no one who bothered to read what was actually written in previous seasons. The latter is almost more offensive LOL.
The scene where Jaime tells Tyrion that he should have known he was being set up is straight from the books. The scene where Gilly takes Sam's virginity was made up for the show. It's just another example of how the showrunners simply could not match the writing quality of the books. Everything after Season 3 is just middling fan fiction.
Movies where women are running for their lives in high heels.
Movies where prostitutes easily fall in love with their johns
Movies that get basic female anatomy wrong.
And to be specific, Star Wars: The Revenge Of The Sith when Padme “loses the will to live” after having 2 beautiful, healthy babies, because shes so sad about losing Anakin.
Yeah, because as we know, Mothers are never motivated by their children and don’t really want to protect them. If they’re boyfriend has a tantrum, they just lay down and die.
Any birth scene where the mother is just a little sweaty but totally glowing and happy and wide awake after a 20-hour labor, and looks like she was never pregnant at all as soon as they leave the hospital.
Also, a number of kids' shows presumably tailored for girls (stuff like Instant Mom on Nick), and tv sitcoms for that matter, in which the mother is constantly wearing high heels at home, makeup, the whole armor..., while the guys are are laid back in their pajamas and slippers. I am a guy but that is so idiotic and sexist.
Another one: when Jennifer Lawrence dyes her hair platinum blonde with boxed hair dye in Red Sparrow. As any fake blonde will tell you it’s a really time consuming and tricky process. Not something you do in 10 minutes in a bathroom.
Pretty sure any Cosmo Girl could tell you that
Books where women are incredibly aware of what their boobs are doing and how they feel all the time....
Books where the female characters never interact with each other or it’s always negative/catty/competitive.
In Age of Ultron where Black Widow is talking about how she's a monster but not because she's an assassin — just because she's infertile. WTF?
There’s a line in a book about a lady taking so long to pee because the pee gets lost in her confusing lady maze inside.
The first few Avengers movies with Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow. It seems like she was just there to be eye candy and not really have much of a character. She has hinted a bit at this, that she put her foot down on a scene where they had her in a cute tennis outfit for no reason. It was nice to see them give her more of a character throughout the series.
Every single movie Megan Fox was ever in. Transformers… oh my god that was rough. Michael Bay practically shoved the camera up her a**hole and just told her to act hot, but then tried to say it was feminist because she… knew about cars? Lol.
Jennifer’s body is a whole other beast. Great movie clearly made by and for women, and the marketing just said “Megan fox is in it, so let’s make it look like it’s just a sex movie with a sexy lady and market it to the COMPLETELY wrong audience.”
Michael Bay is notoriously known for shoving women into eye-candy roles. Have you seen Rosie Huntington-Whiteley in Transformers? It was gag-worthy.
Revenge of the nerds.
What would a women do if she realized she has been tricked into having sex with another man without her consent?
Keep having sex with him, of course
All the girls in “Spring Breakers” ... written by Harmony Korine. There’s something unsettling about a middle aged guy writing through the eyes of college girls. Vanessa Hudgen’s character says, “Seeing all this money makes my pussy wet”.
IF SHE IS DESCRIBED AS THE “cool girl” F**K THAT F**K THAT F**K THAT!!! NO GIRL EXISTS LIKE THAT. One that is the perfect amount interested in “male things” while still maintaining the PERFECT amount of femininity. Never gets mad. Is never too clingy. That s**t. watch the cool girl monologue from Gone Girl. She explains it perfectly.
My dad: "You should wear cuter clothes, like your sister." Me: "To change shock absorbers?" ---- real convo, never left my memory. Like, wtf, is it silk or tulle for auto repair?
Look up the bechdel test, it's hilarious watching movies and seeing if they pass. Spoiler alert, mass majority don't.
It asks whether a work features at least two women who talk to each other about something other than a man. The requirement that the two women must be named is sometimes added.
Tbh most of my what I thought were said so I'll say the 50 shades series (and there was woman involved if you can believe that)
Not a movie (I know, sorry), but Breaking Bad. Love the series, but every female character is insufferable, and the way Skyler’s character is mishandled is particularly bothersome. She is written like a man’s idea of the nagging overbearing shrew of a wife, and is almost universally hated because of it. Meanwhile, I’ve never understood what exactly people wanted from her. A pregnant woman’s terminally ill husband starts acting shady as f**k...how else would anyone react in that situation? But instead of writing her very understandable suspicion with some depth, they basically said “Pfft. Wives are such a drag, amirite?”. And then she cheats.
This may seem a weird detail to fixate on, but I really hated that they had her smoking during her pregnancy. I assume the intention was to show how badly the situation was affecting her, but considering how unsympathetic they made her overall, it just further poisoned the audience against her.
Barbarella with Jane Fonda. She’s supposed to save the universe but is so helpless all the time and these men have to come and save her and more.
She’s a massive feminist now and has commented that it’s not her proudest work
Twilight
Wait, is twilight a serious book/movie?? You mean you actually have to take it seriously?? it is not like a parodie, a sattire, a bad joke or the bad example of "how not to" write or something??
There's a film known amongst folks who track down, "so bad it's good" movies (like The Room) called Samurai Cop. There are many, many things wrong with this movie (obviously) but the scene where a nurse flirts with the main character makes me wonder if the director had ever seen a woman flirt, ever.
Unpopular opinion but, Jenny in Forest Gump.
She's only written to move the male character along. She's reduced to her reproductive organs the entire time. It's annoying over done horrible crappy trope to use a woman being raped being murdered tortured giving birth etc only to make the male character seem deeper. Most of the time the woman has no lines and some movies she's just a picture or a flashback can't even see her face.
Lara Croft
The worse. She is not badass at all. She is an spoiled entitled brat making tantrums and iresponsibly destroying everything. (Yes, scowling a that terracotta warriors scene, it made me hate Angelina Jolie to this day). She is the average dumb male indiana jones, with big boobs, shorts, heavy make up, guns, big boobs and zero brain or empathy. Did I say big boobs?
I hate movies where women are portrayted as a 'sex' object...
The movie that features female characters but without a single woman involved: Jason Bourne (2016). Its target audiance is clearly men. But there are several female into it. It seems like at every explosion in the movie. There is a women flying into the air with a lot of blood involved.
Crank. That one scene where Jason Statham forces his girlfriend to have sex with him out in the street where everyone is watching and even though she VERY much objects, he just keeps going (because of the plot) and eventually she starts enjoying it. Like, what?
Although I love the series, Indiana Jones.
Pulp Fiction. Hate to say it.
Actually, I don’t. It’s for sure Pulp Fiction.
I don’t think that any of the characters are exactly realistic or unproblematic in Pulp Fiction, even characters who hardly have any screen time. They’re cliches and caricatures, that’s kind of the point though. Big fan of the film.
Not a movie, but there were more than a few female characters in the show Supernatural that were definitely written in a way that made me think there's no way a woman was involved in writing this.
The only exception to the 15 seasons of Supernatural, was "Bad Day at Blackrock". Someone did it right...and then obviously they were banished.
Not a movie, but Death Note. The female lead is atrocious to watch, even by anime standards. And as usual in the shonen genre, the author writes good female side characters by accident and then doesn't know what to do with them.
Nocturnal Animals. The women in the story within the story basically just exist for the purpose of r**e and murder. This is supposed to be a metaphor for how the man feels violated that his wife aborted their child and cheated on him. Oh, and the man stalks his now ex by mailing her this incredibly violent novel.
Closer. Some of the choices and dialogue for the women was ridiculous and clearly came from the egotistical fantasies of a man.
The Truth about Cats and Dogs was so triggering. I looked up to Janeane Garofalo as a role model, and also thought she was a hottie with a similar look/body type to me. The movie's message of, don't worry if you're not tall skinny blonde Uma Thurman, men will still like your fugly ass for your personality, was pretty harmful. I don't know who was involved in the writing but if it was women there's a lot of internalized misogyny there.
Kramer vs Kramer . Meryl streeps character is so unrealistic it’s laughable. And not even the part where she leaves it’s the part where she comes back, decides she wants to be a mom again to the point where she goes to court and then changes her mind because she sees what a great dad Dustin Hoffman’s character is. And then poof she’s gone again. A mom, who is motivated enough to try and get custody in court would never give up and just f**k off like that.
Basic Instinct. Just finally saw it for the first time and holy hell every woman is hot and hysterical.
Gone girl. It completely invalidates sexual assault. The whole thing was pretty much saying that women use their gender to manipulate men and that we lie about the things we go though as women in order to do so
I didn't take it like that. She was a sociopath and said that. She was saying people lie about who they are all the time so you might as well make that lie keep each other at their best. Like holding someone hostage and they have to act a certain way to eventually be let go. Definitely sociopathic. The men were no better as far as being lying manipulative and controlling
Maze Runner I only watched the first one but if you put a sexy plant where she is standing with a note it’s the same impact
The books were just as bad, every single character was completely one dimensional.
Any movie with a birth scene in which the vagina is treated like an orifice capable of stretching powers even Elasti-Girl from "The Incredibles" would envy. Like, wow, that woman just gave birth to a f**king full-grown demon cause pelvises NEVER break under the strain of childbirth! And a vagina is basically just an unbreakable elastic hole that can accommodate ANYTHING going in or out of it! Right?
(This was entirely a reaction to the demon birth dream from "Marianne.")
In the same vein, any birth scene where the mother is just a little sweaty but totally glowing and happy and wide awake after a 20-hour labor, and she looks like she was never pregnant at all as soon as they leave the hospital. BOO.
Also where is the afterbirth? Baby’s come out clean and 2 months old. The closest to realistic newborn I’ve ever seen was in “children of me” and it was a robot. I think they should all be newborn robots so it looks more believable. Still no afterbirth in that movie too. I can’t say a single movie where there was some.
Last Duel. Then again, pretty much any movie that falls into the "movie about marginalization and traumatization of women primarily starring men" category.
The Breakfast Club and The Kissing Booth.
I love The Breakfast Club but I do not believe for a second that any woman in real life is gonna willingly kiss a man who just had his face up her skirt.
I just genuinely hate The Kissing Booth overall.
Van Helsing
Not forgiving the misogyny in this movie but every character seems like it was made up by a 13 year old boy whose 6 year old brother had final say.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. The amount of ass/feet shots is just weird
I would love to say Wonder Woman 1984, but the truth is that it was just disappointing and insulting at the same time.
There’s Something About Mary
Taken. Every girl/woman in that movie is just terrible.
Honestly, Kiss kiss bang bang. It came highly recommended but it is so terribly masogynistic, I couldn't get through it..
The Boys (tv show). There’s a few female screenwriters scattered here and there but it’s 99% cishet dude bulls**t.
And before anyone tries the “you don’t understand it” spiel, yes, I do. And the “feminist” tone it goes for misses by a mile. The show suffers from an egregious use of lampshading — noting misogyny exists but not actually criticizing it in any meaningful way — and is male gazey in insidious ways.
e: I think it’s impossible to turn the original source material into anything empowering for women. There’s just nothing substantial to go off of.
maybe i need to revisit it, but all i remember from that show was how awful all the men were, each in their own particular awful way.
Crank. And Crank: High Voltage. My fiancé and I just laughed about how god awful the women in those movies were portrayed.
That one episode of victorious where it’s a secret Santa thing and they sing the song in a short skirt fishnet stockings and short shorts
Justice League
Eh Snyder's cut was alright. Other than the weird worshiping hero's as gods thing.
Atomic Blonde. 100%.
I liked this movie. It was still very male gaze but I enjoyed the female characters.
Sandra Bollocks character in Gravity - it was painful to watch
I don't think you were paying attention as her character is well fleshed out - and I thought the movie was great.
Scott Piligrim thingy
Fight Club. Wild Things. Devil's Advocate
What's the problem with Fight Club? Marla is obviously a mess but it didn't strike me as a sexist portrayal?
I’m a little annoyed with Yellowstone. Like why is Beth always naked but not Rip? I just want it to happen ONCE
Things You Can Tell Just by Looking at Her (2000). My stream (I think Netflix?) suggested it to me and because it has so many actors I like, I decided to try it out. Omg. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry at the depiction of women back then. Embarrassing and appalling
Like all the Marvel movies
The Iron Man movies and the two Whedon Avengers movies for sure. Endgame. Thor 1 to a degree but a lot of them I'm not seeing the issue. Heck Black Panther passes the Bechdel test. So does Captain Marvel.
The Matrix movies
Lifeforce
Naked space kitten vampire? Patrick Stewart making out with a dude and exploding in a shower of red-liquid papier-mâché? Electric soul zombies roaming the streets of London for their next victims? C'mon, this was ART...! ;P
Anya in queens gambit, I honestly love the series and it is shot so beautifully, But the episodes where they show her being depressed and hitting rock bottom was s**t, what women decides to wear makeup and underwear and dance in their living room while getting drunk to cope with their mother's death
Kalsarikännit is perfectly valid form of grieving, at least in Finland.
Can´t stop thinking bout that scene on Monthy Python's Holy Grail movie, where male actors are dressed as females disguised as male peasants
Im tired of rape in movies so sick of it. Watching the queens gambit and I was waiting for the horrific rape scene. Was so frigging happy when that did not happen. 62million people watched that show it just proves a well written female lead movie makes for great viewing too not just the same old stuff over and over.
It should never be a part of film. Hot take I know but there are certain crimes we do not show on film because it is too vile this should be one of them. And if it is it should never be a voyeur POV.
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i hate the stereotype that the main female character denys that she likes the male main character the whole film then at the end the male character forcibly kisses her and the woman enjoys it! always pisses me off whenever i see it
Reminds me of the m.a.s.h. Tv show anytime “Hawkeye” would kiss Margaret “hot lips” they would drag it out while everyone looks away and when done Margaret has a dreamy look on her face and is all hot and ready for more til she is guided away from the area. It happens every time they kiss. Hawkeye forces it on her and she softens in his arms.
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This is how we all need to analyse movies: the Bechdel Test. To assess if women have an actual purpose in a film: (1) it has to have at least two women in it, who (2) who talk to each other, about (3) something besides a man. When you watch films with these criteria, you find that at least 75% of Hollywood movies fail the Bechdel test.
What about the opposite of that? And if the main characters are guys, what would you think if it didn't have any women? But I see what you're saying for SOME
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This whole post is Karen Candy. Seriously. Don't like a movie, don't watch it. A lot of movies actually bring to light the true and real horrors that actually do exist in our world, as sick and twisted as they may be. The movies and shows mentioned here cleared millions and millions of dollars... The only thing I hate is when female actors are paid less due to being born with a inny instead of an outie. We live in a age in time where an actress can not only refuse a scene or a topic but they can and will run it through the media mill if their demand is denied.
This whole post isn't about how we hate that we've watched the movie with sexism in it. It's that we dislike that the movie exists in the first place. Media has glorified sexism. It's not showing us how it's wrong, it's showing us that treated women this sexist way is seductive and powerful and being sexy and wanted by a man is a woman's value. And yes women can refuse work, but a lot of these examples are from either older movies or movies that claim to give women respect but still aren't good enough. Nobody notices when a movie fails the bechdel test unless you bring up the test. Women are so used to being treated second best that we often don't see the inequality in front of us.
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Women in movies just being there for decoration and getting away with horrible behavior because they’re pretty, which is why I absolutely hate Buttercup from “The Princess Bride”. She’s useless and insufferable. When she’s not being a stuck-up brat to Westley, she’s just moping around and waiting to be rescued while the men do all the work.
Quentin Tarantino is well known for a few things 1) Character Dialog 2) intense violence, usually up close and personal 3) homages to favorite movies/directors/actors 4) revenge for rape (he's done male rape too) or killing a loved one 5) foot and leg fetishism, honestly I think there's only 2 movies of his that don't have a close up shot of women's feet. Obviously the rape trope is used WAY too much in tv & movies. Male writers write female characters based on female characters they've grown up watching, leading to an unending cycle of misogynistic garbage. The only way to break free is for women to write/direct more films that become popular and that sadlt hasn't happened much yet.
That, though, requires wealthy men to give them money for those. Or wealthy women. Did you know Reese Witherspoon is producing and financing a lot of female writers and directors? I didn't until recently. But as long as its a male-dominated field, women have a tough time getting recognized for their work behind the scenes
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If romcom movies are horrible and written by men why are they so popular?
Sex and the city. Horrendous empyheaded females only caring about casual sex and heels. Ugh
I agree. Loathe SATC. Rich spoiled women whose lives revolve around... sex, and men. Ummm.... No.
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And yet female actors seem to be ok with getting paid to play these roles 🤔
So your suggestion would be that women have absolutely no roles in movies at all? Bc there aren't many women directors writers or producers either. Would you suggest women just give up all together and let men play the female parts of movies? Women only have so many opportunities in Hollywood it's run by old white men. Even when women make it big they can't get good roles and they age out at 40. What do you suggest since you know Better than the women?
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Heres one character im sick off. The angry female blaming men for everything.
When the woman who has trained her entire life and has absurdly high skills teaches the male "chosen one" for about five minutes, and suddenly he is better than her at everything and she is totally fine being downgraded to silly arm candy.
Any of "The Women's Murder Club" books by James Patterson. Has he ever actually MET a woman? The writing was so stilted and ridiculous I couldn't read them. No women who have been friends for over 20 years (or 6 months, for that matter) speak with such a sense of detachment & formality.
Every single time there is a group of men and I see only one woman among them I roll my eyes so hard. I call it the "only girl in the group" trope. Every time I see a movie do that I look over to the person I'm watching with and I tell them "I bet she doesn't even get to interact with other women" It's annoying as hell. I also think to myself "why is she the only women? Why can't there be other women as well? Or at least one other?" Male writers tend to think that only having ONE woman is apparently "enough" of representation, as though they believe that every single woman is the same and we should all relate to this one and only woman. It's the same when writers put in one person of color in the group of white people. It's annoying as all hell. And for gods sake, let the female characters interact with each other and get along with each other and become friends and talk about things that have nothing to do with men. Please!
Mary Sue characters.. you can write good female lead, you dont need to make them totally without weaknesses. The new star wars with Daisy Ridley, she seems to automatically know everything and immediately be the best (nothing against the actor), Sigourney Weaver in Alien tho is badass lady
So- i'm totally fine with male leads being sexy and badass but i really prefer if the writers manage to extend the charCter-developement to their femal3 characters as well. And please - give the women SHOES! A very satisfying character on tv was dr elizabeth Weir on Stargate:Atlantis. Sadly, she didn't survive for long but she was great! (i do also think the two male leads were delightful but I'd have loved more elizabeth)
It gets better, but the first few seasons of NCIS. DiNozzo 'flirts' (if you can call it that) with a woman, who is annoyed at first but comes to like it as he persists. The writers must have realized it, because he got way better and eventually became one of my favorite characters. Marvel, especially those SUPER obvious 'girl power' moments in Infinity War and Endgame. Also, Captain Marvel was just Marvel patting themselves on the back for having a female main character. Any book/movie/whatever where either of them (but especially the girl) first falls in love because of physical attraction. Especially when he's a complete jerk but she's just like 'I can't stand him and he's so horrible to me, but I just can't stop being attracted to him' and they inevitably end up together.
She's totally underrated but I like Jennifer Connelly films (generally). Generally they are depressing as f**k and she is always super serious. She's one actress who can do a sex scene and you can come away from it grossed out rather than turned on because precisely the point of her films are to show how s**t people (and specifically men in some cases) are.
If you want the antidote to this PLEASE watch Kevin Can F&ck Himself. Brilliant hilarious and an answer to the entire genre of shrew wife cool but idiot husband
Snowflakes...remember that these are movies and tv shows....if you dont like them...dont watch...you control the companies by not giving them the revenue....and well guess what also blame the kardashins and the rest of the slutty dressed whores that your children and your adore and follow on social media....
We're pointing out how ridiculous it is. Why do you think we need this explanation? We know white men are in charge of Hollywood. We also know all different movies can make an impact and be great if they just gave others a chance. Instead they're afraid and dole out the same old crap and remakes and sequels w the same old half baked boring tropes. We know other voices do well in the box office but they still don't let it happen nearly enough.
Load More Replies... Im tired of rape in movies so sick of it. Watching the queens gambit and I was waiting for the horrific rape scene. Was so frigging happy when that did not happen. 62million people watched that show it just proves a well written female lead movie makes for great viewing too not just the same old stuff over and over.
It should never be a part of film. Hot take I know but there are certain crimes we do not show on film because it is too vile this should be one of them. And if it is it should never be a voyeur POV.
Load More Replies... i hate the stereotype that the main female character denys that she likes the male main character the whole film then at the end the male character forcibly kisses her and the woman enjoys it! always pisses me off whenever i see it
Reminds me of the m.a.s.h. Tv show anytime “Hawkeye” would kiss Margaret “hot lips” they would drag it out while everyone looks away and when done Margaret has a dreamy look on her face and is all hot and ready for more til she is guided away from the area. It happens every time they kiss. Hawkeye forces it on her and she softens in his arms.
Load More Replies... This is how we all need to analyse movies: the Bechdel Test. To assess if women have an actual purpose in a film: (1) it has to have at least two women in it, who (2) who talk to each other, about (3) something besides a man. When you watch films with these criteria, you find that at least 75% of Hollywood movies fail the Bechdel test.
What about the opposite of that? And if the main characters are guys, what would you think if it didn't have any women? But I see what you're saying for SOME
Load More Replies... I agreed with a number of these but a lot are people just being idiots/calling out something popular to be eDgY.
This whole post is Karen Candy. Seriously. Don't like a movie, don't watch it. A lot of movies actually bring to light the true and real horrors that actually do exist in our world, as sick and twisted as they may be. The movies and shows mentioned here cleared millions and millions of dollars... The only thing I hate is when female actors are paid less due to being born with a inny instead of an outie. We live in a age in time where an actress can not only refuse a scene or a topic but they can and will run it through the media mill if their demand is denied.
This whole post isn't about how we hate that we've watched the movie with sexism in it. It's that we dislike that the movie exists in the first place. Media has glorified sexism. It's not showing us how it's wrong, it's showing us that treated women this sexist way is seductive and powerful and being sexy and wanted by a man is a woman's value. And yes women can refuse work, but a lot of these examples are from either older movies or movies that claim to give women respect but still aren't good enough. Nobody notices when a movie fails the bechdel test unless you bring up the test. Women are so used to being treated second best that we often don't see the inequality in front of us.
Load More Replies... Women in movies just being there for decoration and getting away with horrible behavior because they’re pretty, which is why I absolutely hate Buttercup from “The Princess Bride”. She’s useless and insufferable. When she’s not being a stuck-up brat to Westley, she’s just moping around and waiting to be rescued while the men do all the work.
Quentin Tarantino is well known for a few things 1) Character Dialog 2) intense violence, usually up close and personal 3) homages to favorite movies/directors/actors 4) revenge for rape (he's done male rape too) or killing a loved one 5) foot and leg fetishism, honestly I think there's only 2 movies of his that don't have a close up shot of women's feet. Obviously the rape trope is used WAY too much in tv & movies. Male writers write female characters based on female characters they've grown up watching, leading to an unending cycle of misogynistic garbage. The only way to break free is for women to write/direct more films that become popular and that sadlt hasn't happened much yet.
That, though, requires wealthy men to give them money for those. Or wealthy women. Did you know Reese Witherspoon is producing and financing a lot of female writers and directors? I didn't until recently. But as long as its a male-dominated field, women have a tough time getting recognized for their work behind the scenes
Load More Replies... If romcom movies are horrible and written by men why are they so popular?
Sex and the city. Horrendous empyheaded females only caring about casual sex and heels. Ugh
I agree. Loathe SATC. Rich spoiled women whose lives revolve around... sex, and men. Ummm.... No.
Load More Replies... And yet female actors seem to be ok with getting paid to play these roles 🤔
So your suggestion would be that women have absolutely no roles in movies at all? Bc there aren't many women directors writers or producers either. Would you suggest women just give up all together and let men play the female parts of movies? Women only have so many opportunities in Hollywood it's run by old white men. Even when women make it big they can't get good roles and they age out at 40. What do you suggest since you know Better than the women?
Load More Replies... Heres one character im sick off. The angry female blaming men for everything.
When the woman who has trained her entire life and has absurdly high skills teaches the male "chosen one" for about five minutes, and suddenly he is better than her at everything and she is totally fine being downgraded to silly arm candy.
Any of "The Women's Murder Club" books by James Patterson. Has he ever actually MET a woman? The writing was so stilted and ridiculous I couldn't read them. No women who have been friends for over 20 years (or 6 months, for that matter) speak with such a sense of detachment & formality.
Every single time there is a group of men and I see only one woman among them I roll my eyes so hard. I call it the "only girl in the group" trope. Every time I see a movie do that I look over to the person I'm watching with and I tell them "I bet she doesn't even get to interact with other women" It's annoying as hell. I also think to myself "why is she the only women? Why can't there be other women as well? Or at least one other?" Male writers tend to think that only having ONE woman is apparently "enough" of representation, as though they believe that every single woman is the same and we should all relate to this one and only woman. It's the same when writers put in one person of color in the group of white people. It's annoying as all hell. And for gods sake, let the female characters interact with each other and get along with each other and become friends and talk about things that have nothing to do with men. Please!
Mary Sue characters.. you can write good female lead, you dont need to make them totally without weaknesses. The new star wars with Daisy Ridley, she seems to automatically know everything and immediately be the best (nothing against the actor), Sigourney Weaver in Alien tho is badass lady
So- i'm totally fine with male leads being sexy and badass but i really prefer if the writers manage to extend the charCter-developement to their femal3 characters as well. And please - give the women SHOES! A very satisfying character on tv was dr elizabeth Weir on Stargate:Atlantis. Sadly, she didn't survive for long but she was great! (i do also think the two male leads were delightful but I'd have loved more elizabeth)
It gets better, but the first few seasons of NCIS. DiNozzo 'flirts' (if you can call it that) with a woman, who is annoyed at first but comes to like it as he persists. The writers must have realized it, because he got way better and eventually became one of my favorite characters. Marvel, especially those SUPER obvious 'girl power' moments in Infinity War and Endgame. Also, Captain Marvel was just Marvel patting themselves on the back for having a female main character. Any book/movie/whatever where either of them (but especially the girl) first falls in love because of physical attraction. Especially when he's a complete jerk but she's just like 'I can't stand him and he's so horrible to me, but I just can't stop being attracted to him' and they inevitably end up together.
She's totally underrated but I like Jennifer Connelly films (generally). Generally they are depressing as f**k and she is always super serious. She's one actress who can do a sex scene and you can come away from it grossed out rather than turned on because precisely the point of her films are to show how s**t people (and specifically men in some cases) are.
If you want the antidote to this PLEASE watch Kevin Can F&ck Himself. Brilliant hilarious and an answer to the entire genre of shrew wife cool but idiot husband
Snowflakes...remember that these are movies and tv shows....if you dont like them...dont watch...you control the companies by not giving them the revenue....and well guess what also blame the kardashins and the rest of the slutty dressed whores that your children and your adore and follow on social media....
We're pointing out how ridiculous it is. Why do you think we need this explanation? We know white men are in charge of Hollywood. We also know all different movies can make an impact and be great if they just gave others a chance. Instead they're afraid and dole out the same old crap and remakes and sequels w the same old half baked boring tropes. We know other voices do well in the box office but they still don't let it happen nearly enough.
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